[FIXED] Re: lirc on Debian with AMD64

[Greg Vickers]

Hi all,

Marty wrote:

Greg Vickers wrote:

Hi Marty,




Sorry.  I'm not familiar with udev or lirc, nor how they interact in 
deciding device names.  It's surprising to me because I'm using the 
upstream lirc, 0.8.2, and I get /dev/lirc0, as Debian's udev expects.




I'll try my mitigation strategy of removing the Hauppauge and 
installing my Compro DVB card.


OK, I found out that Debian Etch uses a new input layer, and that the IR 
inputs are in /dev/input/eventX where X corresponds the event number of 
your input devices in 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices'


So my IR device is /dev/input/event1, instead of /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc0.

Wooties!

Greg


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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

[Chris Lale]

Anthony Campbell wrote:
[...]
>>
>> Have you tried running udevtrigger as user root? This is from bug no 430624 
>> [1]:
>>
>> # udevtrigger --verbose
>>
>> "This should reload the modules you need. On next reboot, your system will 
>> find
>> your soundcard. The module management is done by udev. You should not need to
>> use alsaconf any more."
>>
>> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430624
>>
>> -- 
>> Chris.
>>
> 
> I do have /etc/modprobe-d though I'm not sure what it does. I tried
> udevtrigger but it didn't reload the module after alsaconf; I did it
> with insmod, I think. Anyway, it's all fairly academic since now that I
> have the entry in /etc/modules it loads automatically at each reboot.
> 

Thanks for trying these suggestions out. udevtrigger didn't work for me either.
It's nice to know that I'm not being completely stupid :).

I'm glad you've got it all working now.

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accessibility install question

[Jude DaShiell]

On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then 
gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X 
does not get installed.  If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and 
isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets 
done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and 
installed?  It can be more difficult for users with accessibility 
requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially 
without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the 
G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished.  I suppose one could 
use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue 
for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without 
monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a 
maintenance issue.




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Re: udev and automounting

[André Berger]

* Jesus Arocho (2007-09-28):
> Try an entry in /etc/udev/10-local.rules; great howtos on the net.
> 
> On Thursday 27 September 2007 07:50, Dan H wrote:
[...]

There's also great information on quoting, e.g.
http://www.vranx.de/mail/tofu.html

-André

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Re: accessibility install question

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 03:14:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then 
> gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X 
> does not get installed.  If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and 
> isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets 
> done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and 
> installed?  It can be more difficult for users with accessibility 
> requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially 
> without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the 
> G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished.  I suppose one could 
> use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue 
> for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without 
> monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a 
> maintenance issue.
Hi Jude,
if I recall correctly, there is no x windows dependency because of the
split between x server and x client. What this means is that you can use
an x client on your server with an x server on another machine, thus you
do not need an x server installed on your machine. Now the issue I guess
is to communicate this to blind users and where to document it. Maybe
this is for a debian accessiblity list or the debian-devel list?
hope this explains,
Kev
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iceweasel "freezing X"

[Attilio Cucchieri]

Hi,

  I have installed Debian etch, basically using the packages
from "Standard" and "Desktop", on two different computers.
In both cases, if one starts sevaral Iceweasel windows, the
X session gets frozen when the windows are closed (only when
they are closed!). The two PC's have

PIV 2.4, 512 KB cache, 512 MB memory

PIV 2.8, 2 MB cache, 512 MB memory

Note: it is only the X session that gets frozen. When this happens,
I can still connect to the machines from another PC and work
on it.

Any ideas of what's going on?
Best
  Attilio



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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:25:24PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> > "Testing" is not a released version of Debian; "testing" exists to get 
> > bugs fixed. You only use testing if you want to test software.
> 
> 
> Speak for yourself.  No one is "testing" Evolution 2.10, or GNOME 2.18,
> or much of the other software in testing.  Much of it isn't even the
> most recently released version of any given piece of software.  What is
> being tested is how well everything fits together in the Debian system,
> and most of that gets fixed in Sid.

Why do think it is called testing?
Why do you think it is not advertised as a Debian release.
Check the debian-release archives as to why the later version of GNOME
did not go into Etch, (it was not technical, but human reasons)

> Debian has the most conservative release policy of any Linux distro I
> know of.  That suits some types of users very well, particularly those
> who need reliability that's as close to 100% as you can get, those who's
> servers truly are mission-critical and can't afford a few minor glitches
> that might temporarily mess something up.  It does not suit many
> garden-variety desktop users who systems are less than a few years old
> and who don't want to be stuck in early 2006 for the next year while
> Debian drags itself kicking and screaming through yet another protracted
> and endlessly delayed release cycle.

So why do garden-variety desktop users complain then?
If you want later versions of software why not download the source and
compile it yourself, running it from under /usr/local/bin if need be?

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Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:21:04AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> One has to change the tool so if one is advocating LaTeX because of the
> merits of LaTeX over WYSIWYG one cannot offer up WYSIWYG as a front end for
> LaTeX without invalidating the argument that it is superior.

Humbug! It allows people who have not yet seen the light to access its
features in a familiar way until they at last see the light and turf the
WSYIWG THINGAMAJIG out the window.

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Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 01:11:32AM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote:
> 
> And I'm much too lazy to bother using a newsreader for anything other
> news. What is it with you guys and newsreaders? Ick.

You are going to have to try harder than that to get the Gnus users to
bite. :-)

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Re: Debian may lose a user

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since its
> not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the obvious
> situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to every user,

Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.

Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.

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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 13:06:20 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:

[...]

> Since, I am tracking sid, I have the latest version of
> flashplugin-nonfree on the system (9.0.48.0.2).

OK, I just wanted to make sure. As I said before, this version works
"out of the box" for me on my Sid/amd64 system. Unfortunately, this also
means that I don't know too much about the details of the
plugin-wrapping mechanism.

[...]

> I purged nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree and installed them
> again. Here is the final result:
> 
> 
> Download done.
> Flash Plugin installed.
> /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: 
> /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: cannot execute binary file
> nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  flashplugin-nonfree
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[...]

> Am I missing something in the installation chain that is causing this? 

Maybe the viewer cannot be executed because you are missing some
component of X (or some other library) which is assumed to be present
and therefore not specified as an explicit dependency. Do you run an
unusually minimalistic Xorg install?

Looking at the post-installation script, it seems that things go wrong
at the very last step, which is:

nspluginwrapper -n -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so

According to the manpage, this is meant to install the wrapper for
libflashplayer.so into the mozilla plugins directory. It also seems to
test if the viewer itself is executable and that is not the case on your
system.

I would first run these commands:

ldd /usr/bin/nspluginwrapper
ldd /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
ldd /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

Maybe that will turn up a missing library.

Also, just to be sure, check if your running kernel supports 32-bit ELF
executables:

$ egrep 'ELF|IA32' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y

Finally, you could try to run

nspluginwrapper -v -n -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so

and hope that the verbose mode provides additional clues.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:30:29AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since its
> > not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the obvious
> > situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to every user,
> 
> Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
> policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.
> 
> Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.
> 
That is why I used the quotes ('policy' vs policy).
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Re: bittorent thru a proxy

[abdelkader belahcene]

thanks for reply,
I did it, it works with jidgo but not with bittorent, so it is an
application  problem and not a system problem.

thanks
bela

On 9/26/07, Wei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try
> export http_proxy=address
> or
> Click desktop/pereferences/network proxy
>
> On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:59 +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I want to use gnome-btdownload, to download a bittorent cd.
> > I works fine when there is no proxy.
> > But I can't use it when there is   a proxy
> > help please
> > best regards
>
>


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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

[Vivek.M]

> See the manpage of apt_preferences. (search for "local
> site")

Hi, and thanks for helping out. It's not working :(
I tried:
Package: *
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: 1001

Also tried: Pin: origin

apt-cache policy xchat; prints a priority of 500 for both file and
http. I took a look at the apt-howto and then looked at the following
file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

This file is supposed to contain:
 *Archive: stable
 Version: 2.2r3
 *Component: main
 *Origin: Debian
 *Label: Debian
 Architecture: i386

But the *'d info is missing.


I also took a look at this file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/_usr_share_debian_disc1_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

It has only this info:

Package: adduser
Priority: important
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 900
Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers 
Architecture: all
Version: 3.102

Note that this meta-data lacks an information regarding origin (http/
file/ftp) is missing? Since, Pin: release/origin need to be fed
parameters (Label, Archive, Origin) to filter on, i guess that
is the reason why it doesn't work??


> See "blacklist" in the manpage of modprobe.conf. Sometimes > it can be 
> necessary to use "install MODULENAME /bin/true" > in addition to the 
> blacklisting.

This didn't work either :(

darkstar> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blockedMods
install fan   /bin/true
install thermal   /bin/true
install processor /bin/true

Also, contents of: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

blacklist fan
blacklist thermal
blacklist processor


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unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Jabka Atu]

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package: mysql-server

version: 5.0.45-1

Hello,...


debian lenny lest update (29.9.2007 12:00 GMT).

when working on this howto :
http://linux.justinhartman.com/Setting_up_a_LAMP_Server


i did :


apt-get update

apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
mysql-client php5-mysql phpmyadmin


acerium:/# apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql phpmyadmin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  apache-common
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libmcrypt4 php5-common php5-mcrypt
Suggested packages:
  php-pear libmcrypt-dev mcrypt
Recommended packages:
  php5-gd php4-gd
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libapache2-mod-php4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 libmcrypt4 mysql-client mysql-server php5
  php5-common php5-mcrypt php5-mysql phpmyadmin
0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 to remove and 305 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 5948kB/6086kB of archives.
After unpacking 14.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Get:1 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-common 5.2.3-1+b1
[234kB]
Get:2 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main libapache2-mod-php5
5.2.3-1+b1 [2663kB]
Get:3 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main libmcrypt4 2.5.7-5 [86.7kB]
Get:4 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5 5.2.3-1 [1034B]
Get:5 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-mcrypt 5.2.3-1+b1
[13.8kB]
Get:6 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-mysql 5.2.3-1+b1
[73.4kB]
Get:7 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main phpmyadmin 4:2.11.0-1
[2875kB]
Fetched 5948kB in 44s (134kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 197242 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libapache2-mod-php4 ...
Module php4 does not exist!
Selecting previously deselected package apache2.
(Reading database ... 197239 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking apache2 (from .../apache2_2.2.4-3_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-common.
Unpacking php5-common (from .../php5-common_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libapache2-mod-php5.
Unpacking libapache2-mod-php5 (from
.../libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libmcrypt4.
Unpacking libmcrypt4 (from .../libmcrypt4_2.5.7-5_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mysql-client.
Unpacking mysql-client (from .../mysql-client_5.0.45-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mysql-server.
Unpacking mysql-server (from .../mysql-server_5.0.45-1_all.deb) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
Selecting previously deselected package php5.
Unpacking php5 (from .../archives/php5_5.2.3-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-mcrypt.
Unpacking php5-mcrypt (from .../php5-mcrypt_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-mysql.
Unpacking php5-mysql (from .../php5-mysql_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package phpmyadmin.
Unpacking phpmyadmin (from .../phpmyadmin_4%3a2.11.0-1_all.deb) ...
Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Setting up apache2 (2.2.4-3) ...
Setting up php5-common (5.2.3-1+b1) ...
Setting up libapache2-mod-php5 (5.2.3-1+b1) ...
Replacing config file /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini with new version

Setting up libmcrypt4 (2.5.7-5) ...

Setting up mysql-client (5.0.45-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up php5 (5.2.3-1) ...
Setting up php5-mcrypt (5.2.3-1+b1) ...

Setting up php5-mysql (5.2.3-1+b1) ...

Setting up phpmyadmin (4:2.11.0-1) ...
Reloading web server config: apache2invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript,
/etc/init.d/apache not found.
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-ssl not found.
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-perl not found.

Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I don't if it is a bug or iam doing some thing wrong ...



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Mobo+CPU suggestions request

[Jesus Arocho]

I want to build a box to use with Musix and debian.  Reccomendations for an 
inexpensive 64 bit (100 to 200US) combos?

Thanks


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how to use man in packages ?

[Jabka Atu]

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Hello ,...


im working on smser package (on
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser)


i started to use the normal rules file (auto genrated).


after that i started to get errors with man file:

lintian told me that there is no man file (but there is as you can see).


also why does the noraml rule file don't deleate the stamp files ?


P.s

ill be glad to get any relvent comments on this prog .

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Debian with Wireless

[Dennis]

When will there be a distro available that will include the setting up
of wireless networks, for those that want the setup in their laptops?  I
have a laptop, and so far the only one that allows me to setup wireless
as I install, is Ubuntu.  I begin to tell you how much I dislike Ubuntu.

Thank you


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Re: Num Lock nor Caps Lock LEDs working in Sid

[Nate Bargmann]

Here is the Free desktop.org thread decrying these issues we've
noticed.  Seems the LED issue has been "known for months".  :-(

http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-September/028659.html

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Re: iceweasel "freezing X"

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:32:12AM -0300, Attilio Cucchieri wrote:
 
> Note: it is only the X session that gets frozen. When this happens,
> I can still connect to the machines from another PC and work
> on it.

Maybe you can find some clues in top.

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Re: Num Lock nor Caps Lock LEDs working in Sid

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 09:05:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Here is the Free desktop.org thread decrying these issues we've
> noticed.  Seems the LED issue has been "known for months".  :-(
> 
> http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-September/028659.html
> 

the upside to debian's perceived slowness in upgrading...

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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
> package: mysql-server
> 
> version: 5.0.45-1
> 

...copious apt output...

> Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!
> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1


the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to
start. Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc
etc.


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Re: hp psc driver question

[steef]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:01:37AM +0200, steef wrote:
  

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:53:44AM +0200, steef wrote:
  
  

hi,

cups gives a driver for the hp-printer psc (all in one) 2500. does 
anybody know if this driver works also for the hp psc 2575?



according to:

http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html

its not (not listed) but since all the listed PSC's are supported as
of version .9.5 and sid's got 1.6.blah I think you're good to go. 
Note that google provides several hits that claim this printer works
as well. 
A
  
  
...thanks [again] andrew. yes, i saw the annotations via google, and, under 
suse 10 (i use debian!) the machine seems to be supported by the same hplip 
version as under etch (which i am using as production machine). so: taken 
together with your advice i am convinced and will buy the hp psc2575 within 
the hour (it's morning here)..



note that I'm not responsible if it doesn't work ;-) 


let us know!

A
  

hi andrew and others possibly intersted:

the hp psc2575 printer works excellent under etch with the 
hplip-driverpackage.


regards,

steef


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[s. keeling]

Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  What about stumpwm?
> 
>  http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
> 
>  Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

You could (aptitude search):

p   stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[cothrige]

"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What about stumpwm?
>
> http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
>
> Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much.  Though it
was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just
in case you have not, of in case somebody else is trying, I will briefly
mention what I found worked.  It may help somebody out there.

Firstly, I never got the Debian version working at all.  I am sure I
goofed it up, but I just couldn't find a way to make it start.  The docs
didn't seem to offer anything useful at all either.  In the end I used
the CVS version of stumpwm.  It has a real README which actually has
decent instructions.  By following them I had a working executable in
just a couple of minutes.  However, sbcl from Debian also does not work
right, and under any kind of load the entire system becomes uselessly
unresponsive.  I removed the SBCL installed via apt, and recompiled it
from source.  Then I installed clx using asdf "(require 'asdf) (require
'asdf-install) (asdf-install:install 'clx)" and recompiled stump.  This
worked fine, though the final product tends not to be very lightweight.

I was also able to get stump with clisp working, though in the end it
was less than reliable.  The up-side though is that it is much, much
lighter than sbcl.  Again, I could not get the clisp I installed via apt
to work, and had to compile from source.  It failed again and again to
work with stump though, until I tried CVS on that too.  I also had to
use new-clx instead of mit-clx.  Unfortunately, even after getting it to
work it crashes X fairly regularly (anytime certain dialog boxes are
used, such as print or downloads) and so is rather less than useful.
Really too bad as I was much impressed with its generally faster,
lighter feel than stump with sbcl.

But, I did get sbcl going okay, and with it stump seems solid and
usable.  It is fast overall, and certainly has the nice feel of
ratpoison, with the bonus of a mode-line.  And even though it is not
terribly lightweight considering the sparsity of the thing I still think
it is an excellent choice for a tiling WM.

However, as much as I liked it, xmonad (http://xmonad.org/) was even
more pleasing than everything else.  It also took a little work to get
going, though nothing like stump, but it was worth it in the end.  It is
unbelievably light and fast and even seems smaller than ratpoison.  And
dzen2, a separate app, as a status-bar is much more full-featured than
stump's, and seems about as good as what ion has.  Additionally, it
handles transient windows much more realistically than does stump or
ratpoison.  With it you can also grab the window and resize it making
that window a floating one rather than tiling, all without the hoops you
seemingly had to jump through with ion3 to do the same thing.  Without a
doubt, xmonad with dzen has been the most satisfying and simple approach
I have yet tried in the window manager market.

Patrick

Re: syslog recommendations?

[Michael Shuler]

On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
> like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
> me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
> other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).

I am not aware of a single package that will do all that you want, but a
combination of a few packages should get you there.  I use syslog-ng for
aggregating logs from many servers, and I think it far surpasses the
standard udp syslog daemon for reliability.  Running logcheck and/or
logtool on the syslog server to parse the raw logs will get you pattern
matching and various reporting possibilities.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:30:29 -0400, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
>> more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since
>> its not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the
>> obvious situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to
>> every user,

> Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
> policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.

No, Policy must directives are things package must comply
 with, or they are thrown out of the release (unless release managers
 offer dispensation).

However, policy _changes_ tend to be conservative, and policy is
 not where you do design and tinkering. So  new stuff needs to be
 tested, and deployed, and  _then_ policy changes.  Policy also does not
 tend to change rapidly and make gazillions of packages instantly
 buggy.

> Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.

You are.

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Re: udev and automounting

[Max Hyre]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

The package usbmount might be what you need.


   The description of usbmount says:

This package automatically mounts USB mass
storage devices (typically  USB pens) when they
are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
removed.

   Does this limit filesystems to FAT?  FAT doesn't care if 
you rip it out without doing any cleanup.  If you've 
formatted your thumbdrive as an ext2 filesystem, how can it 
be properly unmounted if you simply unplug it?  Won't that 
mean you have to run fsck every time you plug it in again?



Best wishes,

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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Jabka Atu]

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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
>> package: mysql-server
>>
>> version: 5.0.45-1
>>
>
> ...copious apt output...
>
>> Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
>> database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld .
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql,
>> action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0
>> (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error
>> exit status 1
>
>
> the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
> propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to start.
> Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc etc.
>
ok i tried running it manualy :
acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!

dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed

apt-get install mysql-server
.
.
.
.

Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . .dpkg: error processing
mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):   


ok install mysql-server-5.0 ?

acerium:/# apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
mysql-server-5.0 is already the newest version.
mysql-server-5.0 set to manual installed.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 305 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.

invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server

wtf ?

acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server
mysql-server:
  Installed: 5.0.45-1
  Candidate: 5.0.45-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.0.45-1 0
500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
mysql-server-5.0:
  Installed: 5.0.45-1
  Candidate: 5.0.45-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.0.45-1 0
500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status






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Re: Debian may lose a user

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:44:58 -0400, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:30:29AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
>> > more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since
>> > its not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the
>> > obvious situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to
>> > every user,
>> 
>> Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
>> policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.
>> 
>> Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.
>> 
> That is why I used the quotes ('policy' vs policy).

Hmm. I wondered why kevin was saying this, since he is generally
 clued in, and knows policy is to be followed. The distinction is that
 Debian technical policy, the entity Chris is referring to (I presume),
 does not govern people. It governs technical aspects of  packaging
 Debian software, so it has no jurisdiction in how reports are responded
 to.

Sorry if my previous mail was confusing.

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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

[Vivek.M]

Update: This works:
Package: *
Pin: origin http.us.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 100

But, this does not work:
Package: *
Pin: origin
Pin-Priority: 100

I did not run dpkg-scanpackages. Instead i mounted my iso images via
loop, and put this in source.list.
deb file:/usr/share/debian/pkg/disc1/ etch contrib main


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Env var on the fly

[Francesco Pietra]

Having defined (in my .bashrc) the environmental variables for computing suites
X and Y (PATH to them) it happens - because of some bug in X - that on running
certain programs of Y, executables of X are called (and of course not found).

If I undefine the env var X, all programs of Y run perfectly.

Is any simple way to define the env var X on the fly, when X is needed, without
having to use X as another user? (which would overcomplicate the matter because
there is an scp link from the computing machine to and from a desktop, where I
am).

debian linux amd64 etch on the computing machine, where my .bashrc. deain linux
i386 etch on the desktop.

Thanks 
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Re: soekris net5501 and vpn14[01]1

[Martin Marcher]

2007/9/29, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:31:06AM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is the mentioned vpn card[1] ready to use in the stock debian kernel,
> > and (this is something in found in several openbsd mailing lists) will
> > openssl/gnutls use it's capabilities or would that be lost money?
> >
> > thanks for your input
> >
> > [1] http://www.soekris.com/vpn1401.htm
>
> http://pyramid.metrix.net/trac/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

Interesting distribution, but neither the soekris net5501 nor any of
the vpn cards are mentioned there.

Also the task of this distribution isn't in any way related to what
I'd like to build. I'm not working on a router, or borderline box for
a network.

Which of the FAQ point should be related to my questions?

thanks
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Re: udev and automounting

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:27:35AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>> The package usbmount might be what you need.
>
>The description of usbmount says:
>
>   This package automatically mounts USB mass
>   storage devices (typically  USB pens) when they
>   are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
>   removed.
>
>Does this limit filesystems to FAT?  FAT doesn't care if you rip it out 
> without doing any cleanup.  If you've formatted your thumbdrive as an ext2 
> filesystem, how can it be properly unmounted if you simply unplug it?  
> Won't that mean you have to run fsck every time you plug it in again?

maybe mount with sync instead of async, though mount warns of
life-shortening possibilities with flash stuff. probably a good idea
to go for noatime also to help coutneract that. Both of those would
minimise the risk of damage -- so long as the current process was
done, you could pull it. that just a guess. check man mount.



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Re: Env var on the fly

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:23:59AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Having defined (in my .bashrc) the environmental variables for computing 
> suites
> X and Y (PATH to them) it happens - because of some bug in X - that on running
> certain programs of Y, executables of X are called (and of course not found).
> 
> If I undefine the env var X, all programs of Y run perfectly.
> 
> Is any simple way to define the env var X on the fly, when X is needed, 
> without
> having to use X as another user? (which would overcomplicate the matter 
> because
> there is an scp link from the computing machine to and from a desktop, where I
> am).

export X="blah"

or do you need it to happen automatically? in which case your
application needs to do this. 

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how to get keyboard layout with symbols

[H.S.]

Hello,

How do I export the current keyboard layout to a file (eps preferably)
with symbols?

I am trying with Indic layouts (IN) with the following command:
$> xkbprint -eps -label symbols   :0 -o ~/tmp/kb.eps

But the labels of the keys in the eps file I get are the Unicode codes
for the keys, I get no symbols. What am I missing? For the US keyboard
layout, however, I get the symbols. This is on Debian Testing.

thanks,
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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 05:28:54PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
> >> package: mysql-server
> >>
> >> version: 5.0.45-1
> >>
> >
> > ...copious apt output...
> >
> >> Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
> >> database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld .
> >> . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql,
> >> action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0
> >> (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error
> >> exit status 1
> >
> >
> > the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
> > propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to start.
> > Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc etc.
> >
> ok i tried running it manualy :
> acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!

why does it fail to start? have you looked at any of the relevant
logs? Frankly I don't have much experience with mysql, but the reason
you are getting apt errors is because it fails to start. I suppose the
information apt is giving you is a little mis-leading because it has
appaerntly completed all its installation tasks except for restarting
the server. The fact that the server failed to restart is generating
the error in apt. So, you need to figure out why its not starting. 

No permutation of apt/dpkg stuff will solve this problem except
perhaps removing and reinstalling it. 

If I had this problem, I would stop messing with apt/dpkg and start
figuring out why its not starting. Read the logs. start it from a
command line directly instead of the init-script. figure out how to
turn up the verbosity. etc etc etc. Once you get it to start, then you
can re-run the apt commands and it will clear out just fine. 


> 
> acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server
> mysql-server:
>   Installed: 5.0.45-1
>   Candidate: 5.0.45-1
>   Version table:
>  *** 5.0.45-1 0
> 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
> mysql-server-5.0:
>   Installed: 5.0.45-1
>   Candidate: 5.0.45-1
>   Version table:
>  *** 5.0.45-1 0
> 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> 

you are running testing. It is entirely possible that there is a bug
that is preventing mysqld from starting. It might be worth your while
to search BTS and see if anything applies. 

But, to restate. Apt is failing because the service won't restart. If
you can make the service start, then apt will no longer fail.

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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

[Sridhar M.A.]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 01:01:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
   > 
   > Also, just to be sure, check if your running kernel supports 32-bit ELF
   > executables:
   > 
   > $ egrep 'ELF|IA32' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
   > CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
   > CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
   > CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
   > CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y
   > 
Thanks. That was the problem. Recompiled my kernel and flash is working
now. 

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entropy gathering module

[John K Masters]

Just configured a new VPS and when I try to get mail for the user (as
opposed to root) I get 'no entropy gathering module detected' as a fatal
error. If I run 'mail' as root there are no errors (and no mail)

I've googled for this but the few results yeild no solutions except to
point to a permissions problem, but no solution.

Can anyone help?

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Re: syslog recommendations?

[s. keeling]

Michael Shuler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> > I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
> > like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
> > me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
> > other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).
> 
>  I am not aware of a single package that will do all that you want, but a
>  combination of a few packages should get you there.  I use syslog-ng for
>  aggregating logs from many servers, and I think it far surpasses the
>  standard udp syslog daemon for reliability.  Running logcheck and/or

It's far more powerful in filtering too.  When pump was filling my
/var with meaningless logging, syslog-ng was very easy to configure to
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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[Pál Csányi]

Hello Patrick!

2007/9/29, cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What about stumpwm?
> >
> > http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
> >
> > Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?
>
> Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much.  Though it
> was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just
> in case you have not, of in case somebody else is trying, I will briefly
> mention what I found worked.  It may help somebody out there.

No, I have not set it up.  :(
Thank you for help! :)

> Firstly, I never got the Debian version working at all.  I am sure I ...
> the CVS version of stumpwm.  It has a real README which actually has
> decent instructions.  By following them I had a working executable in
> just a couple of minutes.  However, sbcl from Debian also does not work
> right, and under any kind of load the entire system becomes uselessly
> unresponsive.  I removed the SBCL installed via apt, and recompiled it
> from source.  Then I installed clx using asdf "(require 'asdf) (require
> 'asdf-install) (asdf-install:install 'clx)" and recompiled stump.  This
> worked fine, though the final product tends not to be very lightweight.

The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl.

Would you please give for us the step by step advices how to install
from CVS stumpwm?

Just in any case, if you have stumpwm installed from CVS on Debian,
how can you uninstall (purge) it? (For case if the Debian stumpwm
package come usable.)

> But, I did get sbcl going okay, and with it stump seems solid and
> usable.  It is fast overall, and certainly has the nice feel of
> ratpoison, with the bonus of a mode-line.  And even though it is not
> terribly lightweight considering the sparsity of the thing I still think
> it is an excellent choice for a tiling WM.

I wish to try it out! :)

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RE: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Jabka Atu]

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acerium:/var/log# less syslog
acerium:/var/log# cat syslog|grep 18:3
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A
PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER !
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: To do so, start the
server, then issue the following commands:
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u
root password 'new-password'
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u
root -h acerium password 'new-password'
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: See the manual for more
instructions.
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: Please report any problems
with the /usr/bin/mysqlbug script!
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]:
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: The latest information
about MySQL is available on the web at
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: http://www.mysql.com
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: Support MySQL by buying
support/licenses at http://shop.mysql.com
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: ERROR: 1046  No database
selected
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: 070929 18:34:28 [ERROR]
Aborting
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: 070929 18:34:28 [Note]
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16625]: started
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: The first specified
data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: a new database to be
created!
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:28  InnoDB:
Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:29  InnoDB: Log
file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be created
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Setting log file
./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:29  InnoDB: Log
file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be created
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Setting log file
./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not
found: creating new
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Creating foreign key
constraint system tables
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Foreign key constraint
system tables created
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30  InnoDB:
Started; log sequence number 0 0
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Can't
start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Do you
already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Aborting
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]:
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30  InnoDB:
Starting shutdown...
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:32  InnoDB:
Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 43655
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:32 [Note]
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]:
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld_safe[16688]: ended
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: 0 processes alive
and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping'
resulted in
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]:
^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: error: 'Can't
connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: Check that mysqld is
running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]:

-  Original Message 
Subject: [Fwd: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation
script returned error exit status 1)]
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:29:53 +0200
From: Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Im not sure but i guess it is related to this bug

-  Original Message 
Subject: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script
returned error exit status 1)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:47:23 +0200
From: Jabka Atu
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org



package: mysql-server

version: 5.0.45-1

Hello,...


debian lenny lest update (29.9.2007 12:00 GMT).

when working on this howto :
http://linux.justinhartman.com/Setting_up_a_LAMP_Server


i did :


apt-get update

apt

Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

[Jabka Atu]

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I forgot to say that it was on clean install .
also found some usfull(?) info in syslog posted to bug (444107) couse
it is related .
anyone ?

Jabka Atu wrote:

> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
>>> package: mysql-server
>>>
>>> version: 5.0.45-1
>>>
>> ...copious apt output...
>
>>> Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
>>> database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript
>>> mysql, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing
>>> mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess post-installation
>>> script returned error exit status 1
>
>> the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start
>> which propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed
>> to start. Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it
>> manually, etc etc.
>
> ok i tried running it manualy : acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
> failed!
>
> dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure:
> mysql-server is broken or not fully installed
>
> apt-get install mysql-server . . . .
>
> Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . .dpkg: error
> processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess
> post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt) dpkg:
> dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
> mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however: Package
> mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing
> mysql-server (--configure):
>
>
> ok install mysql-server-5.0 ?
>
> acerium:/# apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 Reading package
> lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information...
> Done mysql-server-5.0 is already the newest version.
> mysql-server-5.0 set to manual installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly
> installed, 0 to remove and 305 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed
> or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of
> additional disk space will be used. Setting up mysql-server-5.0
> (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
>
> invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. dpkg: error
> processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess
> post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg:
> dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
> mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however: Package
> mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing
> mysql-server (--configure): dependency problems - leaving
> unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
> mysql-server-5.0 mysql-server
>
> wtf ?
>
> acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server mysql-server: Installed:
> 5.0.45-1 Candidate: 5.0.45-1 Version table: *** 5.0.45-1 0 500
> http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages 100
> /var/lib/dpkg/status acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
> mysql-server-5.0: Installed: 5.0.45-1 Candidate: 5.0.45-1 Version
> table: *** 5.0.45-1 0 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main
> Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> A
>
>

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should a package compile on installation ?

[Jabka Atu]

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Hello ,..


im thinkg about giving a package the abuilty to download and compile
the last source is it wise ?

since i don't know how to create sevral arch binary package
(amd64,i386,etc .. ).

and the auther is releasing relvtly fast (on svn) updates


the compile time isn't so big (the program is some where around 1k
lines of code) and it is one source file .


so i thought about downloading from svn and compiling each time .


p.s.

also adding sevral dependencies like : gcc ,make ,kernel-hedares

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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

[Nigel Henry]

On Saturday 29 September 2007 01:54, C. G. Montgomery wrote:
> In linux.debian.user Nigel Henry wrote:
> > I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6
> > entries on the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.
>
> I think it may not be a limit on the number of lilo entries.  Not long
> ago, an upgrade to 2.6.21-2-k7 was done on a machine of mine.  This put
> the initrd.img, System.map, and vmlinuz files into /boot but didn't
> change lilo.conf.  In fact I decided to stay with the kernel I had been
> using, so it's just waiting there.  I don't know whether grub is handled
> differently.

I had the same when I installed the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel. The files were 
in /boot, but /etc/lilo.conf hadn't been updated, therefore running lilo did 
nothing. I commented out the stanzas for the bf2 kernel, and added the 
stanzas for the new 2.6.18-5 one, ran lilo, and now it's on lilo's menu.

The reason I asked about the 6 menu items limit was because I seem to remember 
that during the adding of new kernels previously, that apt-get would prompt 
you for lilo, mentioning something about the boot block, and if you wanted to 
run lilo, and install it in the MBR. Now my lilo's arn't in the MBR, but in 
the / partition for my 2 Debian installs on this drive. Grub for FC2 is in 
the MBR, as it is the 1st Linux install on the drive. Not wishing Grub to be 
replaced, I said no to the apt-get yes/no request, and ran lilo after the 
install had completed. Now that I've effectively removed the references to 
the bf2 kernel I may remove this latest kernel, and try reinstalling it, just 
to see if I get this prompt for lilo with apt-get.

Regarding Grub. At least on Fedora it works fine, and all kernel updates are 
added to it's menu. You can add as many kernels as you like. I suspect after 
a while you get a scroll bar to look through them. Saying that though, with 
fedora I also use Apt, but if you use Yum, which is the default package 
manager on Fedora, it only keeps 2 kernels as default, but you can change 
that behaviour so that all kernels are saved. Personally I think it's best 
that all kernels are saved, then you can decide which ones are no longer 
required.
>
> > The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is
> > still listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in
> > synaptic, and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't
> > see how to remove this original boot floppy kernel.
> >
> > Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot?
> > Then run lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way
> > around it as synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't
> > uninstall something that's not on the list.
>
> Yes, I've done just that to get rid of old kernels.  Just edit lilo.conf
> to include only the stanzas you want and run lilo.

As I mention above I commented out the stanzas for the bf2 in /etc/lilo.conf, 
and renamed the bf2 files in /boot. I'll clean that up later on as everything 
appears to be working ok now.
>
> hth   cgm

Thanks for your reply.

Nigel.


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Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?

[Amit Uttamchandani]

Yes I think you are right. python-imaging is the package mac os x uses to 
resize images and pdf.

Thanks!

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[Amit Uttamchandani]

> 
> Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?

Edit your config.h file. There are mod keys defined for specific programs. Edit 
the arguments there.

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Spring clean

[andy]

Hi all

Even though it is now approaching fall/autumn (in the northern 
hemisphere anyway), I am wanting to do some spring cleaning of my hard 
drive. In my enthusiasm for Debian's apt-get I have gorged myself on a 
load of packages that I probably don't need. One example is multiple 
language versions of OOo, but there are likely others too.


Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning 
house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can 
clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?


Many thanks

A

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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

[Nigel Henry]

On Saturday 29 September 2007 05:04, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 09/28/2007 03:18 PM, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > All my Debian installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, originally started off as
> > Woody 3.0r2, and LiLo was, and still is the bootloader. I installed on
> > Etch yesterday the 2.6.18-5 kernel, which shows up in /boot ok, but
> > running lilo doesn't add it to lilo's menu.
> >
> > I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6
> > entries on the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.
> >
> > The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is
> > still listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in
> > synaptic, and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't
> > see how to remove this original boot floppy kernel.
> >
> > Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot?
> > Then run lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way
> > around it as synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't
> > uninstall something that's not on the list.
> >
> > /etc/lilo.conf is below. [...]
>
> I have very little experience with Lilo under Debian, though I used it
> under Slackware.

I first encountered lilo on Mandrake 9.2, and must admit that I had terrible 
problems with both LiLo, and Grub when I first started off with Linux, and 
setting up dual, and triple boot installs. I've sort of got them under 
control now, but it wasn't much fun at the time. Now the bootloader for the 
first install goes in the MBR, and the bootloaders for the subsequent 
installs go in their respective / partitions. Then I boot up the first 
install and add chainloaders pointing to the / partitions of the other 
distros on the drive.
>
> I don't know about the six item limit, but I suggest you manually delete
> the references to the bf kernels, but read "man liloconfig" and "man
> update-lilo" first. If the bf kernels do not appear in /boot,
> update-lilo may remove them from /etc/lilo.conf automatically.

I've temporarily renamed the bf2 files in /boot, and commented out the stanzas 
for the bf2 kernel in /etc/lilo.conf, but am going to remove them completely 
as they are no longer useable on Etch.
>
> I also suggest that you remove, possibly using synaptic, any kernels
> that don't boot the system up properly.

I usually keep all kernels. Alright the ones that don't boot properly can go, 
but sometimes older, non udev ones, are usefull to keep if you are appearing 
to have problems with the udev ones. I constantly get problems with udev 
kernels and my TVcard /dev/video0, and the webcam /dev/video1. Very hit and 
miss as to which app gets which video device.

Someone on the list gave me some rules for udev, but they don't appear to be 
working. I'll have to start a new thread on that one.

Thanks for the reply.

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Re: syslog recommendations?

[Martin Marcher]

2007/9/29, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Michael Shuler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> > > I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
> > > like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
> > > me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
> > > other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).

rsyslog may be what you are searching for


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Re: Debian with Wireless

[Chris Lale]

Dennis wrote:
> When will there be a distro available that will include the setting up
> of wireless networks, for those that want the setup in their laptops?  I
> have a laptop, and so far the only one that allows me to setup wireless
> as I install, is Ubuntu.  I begin to tell you how much I dislike Ubuntu.
> 

There are various HOWTOs for setting up wireless in Debian. Try this phrase in a
search engine:

debian setting up wireless network

Perhaps the NewbieDOC wiki [1] has what you need?

[1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Docs#Help_with_network_and_internet

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[cothrige]

"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello Patrick!

Howdy,

> No, I have not set it up.  :(
> Thank you for help! :)

Glad to be able to do so.

> The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl.

Yeah, and I actually met those, and it may have "worked" except I could
never get it started as I just didn't know how.  It may be because I am
not a lisper, but it just seemed very esoteric.  There were no direct
instructions of what to do to get things running.  For instance, what
command do you use and where?  I just never did get it running and the
/usr/share/doc... stuff didn't really help me at all.

Also, finding out later that the Debian SBCL has a problem and causes
the entire system to virtually stop running if you do any CPU intensive
tasks I have very strong doubts it would be a good idea to run stump
that way in the first place.  Much better I think to go ahead and
compile sbcl yourself.

> Would you please give for us the step by step advices how to install
> from CVS stumpwm?

First I installed SBCL via apt.  This is because you have to have a lisp
to compile sbcl (odd, huh?) and that one works fine.  I am sure clisp or
cmucl would work too, but I already had sbcl because I was trying to get
stump working, and so I used it. Of course, YMMV.  I then grabbed the
source to sbcl from their website, untarred it and changed to that
directory.  In there I configured it (not sure exactly how as it was a
while ago) to install in my home directory rather than in /usr/local.
This way it would not interfere, even temporarily with my system sbcl
which I was using to compile it.  It also makes uninstalling as easy as
deleting the sbcl dirs in my home folder.  Apps like sbcl are hard to
uninstall and so this works well for me.  Just export SBCL_HOME in your
.bashrc with something like 
"export SBCL_HOME=/home/cothrige/lisp/lib/sbcl" and then `source ~/.bashrc'.

I then started sbcl and typed the following one at a time at the prompt,
to install clx:

* (require 'asdf) 
* (require 'asdf-install) 
* (asdf-install:install 'clx)

This will download and install everything for you.  BTW, I installed it
system-wide, but I don't think it matters if you use your home directory
for sbcl as I did.  If you use /usr/local or some such it will obviously
matter.  Then I closed SBCL and grabbed the stump source this way:

cvs -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/stumpwm login
cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/stumpwm co stumpwm

(BTW, press return for the password on the first one.)

This will create a stumwpm directory.  Cd there and do the following:

autoconf
./configure
make

That will do it.  It defaults to sbcl, and if you have installed sbcl to
a place in your path you will have no trouble at all.  There is no make
install or the like as you run it from this directory.  What you do is
move the stumpwm folder to wherever you like and then just invoke that
in your .xinitrc.  If I left it in my home directory for instance, it
would be like this:

exec ~/stumpwm/stumpwm

There is a sample .stumpwmrc file in the stumpwm directory, but it has
nothing on the mode-line in it.  If you are interested in that you will
need something for it.  It isn't too bad to get configured once it is up
and running, though I found all of it to be somewhat vague.  If you
think you would like it I will gladly post up a copy of my stumpwmrc
file and you can look at that to see if you see anything which may help
you.

> Just in any case, if you have stumpwm installed from CVS on Debian,
> how can you uninstall (purge) it? (For case if the Debian stumpwm
> package come usable.)

Well, the nice thing is since it doesn't install at all you just delete
the entire stumpwm directory and that really does purge it.  The way I
did things nothing left my home folder at all, which made cleanup much
easier.  And the way I kept messing it up with trial and error that
approach came in handy, believe me.

I hope this helps you get it running.  Once I did I really liked it,
though I didn't end up staying with full time.  Maybe I just liked the
challenge of making it work. ;-)

Good luck on it.

Patrick

Re: Spring clean

[Pál Csányi]

2007/9/29, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning
> house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can
> clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?

If you use aptitude, or synaptic then you must to manually select
there packages you want to purge. After you have purged those
packages, you should to purge orphaned packages, I think. For this you
may to use 'sudo aptitude purge $(deborphan)' command.

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Re: Spring clean

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:52:41PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> 2007/9/29, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning
> > house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can
> > clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?
> 
> If you use aptitude, or synaptic then you must to manually select
> there packages you want to purge. After you have purged those
> packages, you should to purge orphaned packages, I think. For this you
> may to use 'sudo aptitude purge $(deborphan)' command.

aptitude *should* more or less deal with the orphaned packages
already. BUt otherwise, I agree, aptitude is the way to go, through
the gui. It takes a little time to dig through it all, but if you can
focus on removing higher-level packages, it won't take long to see
significant numbers of extraneous libs and supporting packages getting
wiped out. 

A


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[Pál Csányi]

2007/9/29, cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> "Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl.
>
> Yeah, and I actually met those, and it may have "worked" except I could
> never get it started as I just didn't know how.  It may be because I am
> not a lisper, but it just seemed very esoteric.  There were no direct
> instructions of what to do to get things running.  For instance, what
> command do you use and where?  I just never did get it running and the
> /usr/share/doc... stuff didn't really help me at all.

I was subscribed to stumpwm list and get an instruction how to start stumpwm:
->
Have you read /usr/share/doc/stumpwm/README.Debian [3]?  It contains
information about how to start StumpWM.
-<
->
There's an open Debian bug about how to start StumpWM for CL newbies,
it's bug #356948 [4].  As you can read at [5], I'm working on a
solution for bug #356948 and a new Debian package is expected in the
next two weeks.

[4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=356948
[5] http://common-lisp.net/pipermail/cl-debian/2007-July/002634.html
-<
->
If you want to start StumpWM from Emacs (which is not my advice),
fire-up SLIME and then give only the two last commands:

  * (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'stumpwm)
  * (stumpwm:stumpwm)

My advice is to start the swank in ~/.stumpwmrc.  Then once StumpWM
has started you can launch Emacs and connect to the running StumpWM
from SLIME with `slime-connect'.
-<

Howewer, because I'm CL newbie, I can't to start stumpwm on Debian Etch.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[cothrige]

"Pál Csányi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Have you read /usr/share/doc/stumpwm/README.Debian [3]?  It contains
> information about how to start StumpWM.

I tried this too, and I think it takes a great deal for granted.  There
is just too much assumed about what you know for this stuff to work,
IMHO.

> If you want to start StumpWM from Emacs (which is not my advice),
> fire-up SLIME and then give only the two last commands:
>
>   * (asdf:oos 'asdf:load-op 'stumpwm)
>   * (stumpwm:stumpwm)

Yes, I tried this, but it didn't work for me.  And swank has its own
troubles, as far as newbies are concerned.  I did get it working kind
of, but it was never too solid, and tends to cause more problems than it
would ever be worth to me.  Since I am a lisp newb I just doubt that
there is much I can do in the way of hacking stump on the fly. ;-)

> Howewer, because I'm CL newbie, I can't to start stumpwm on Debian Etch.

I feel your pain brother.  Believe me, the thing to do is to just use
CVS stump, compile it to run with sbcl and then load it via .xinitrc.
That way it just runs like any other WM, and is loaded in the same way.
Way better method if you ask me.

Patrick

Re: Spring clean

[andy]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 07:52:41PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
  

2007/9/29, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning
house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can
clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?
  

If you use aptitude, or synaptic then you must to manually select
there packages you want to purge. After you have purged those
packages, you should to purge orphaned packages, I think. For this you
may to use 'sudo aptitude purge $(deborphan)' command.



aptitude *should* more or less deal with the orphaned packages
already. BUt otherwise, I agree, aptitude is the way to go, through
the gui. It takes a little time to dig through it all, but if you can
focus on removing higher-level packages, it won't take long to see
significant numbers of extraneous libs and supporting packages getting
wiped out. 


A
  
I have used apt-get since installation and am comfortable with that. I 
will have to familiarise myself with aptitude. What GUI are you 
referring to? I enter sudo aptitude at a term. So far, after a quick 
scroll it looks like I'm going to have to work my way through aptitude 
to figure out how to do this.


Cheers



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Re: Spring clean

[Sid Arth]

> I have used apt-get since installation and am comfortable with that. I
> will have to familiarise myself with aptitude. What GUI are you
> referring to? I enter sudo aptitude at a term. So far, after a quick
> scroll it looks like I'm going to have to work my way through aptitude
> to figure out how to do this.
>
> Cheers
>
>
>

Aptitude works the same way apt-get does. It just deals with
dependencies better.
To install you just have to use:aptitude install PACKAGE
to remove you just use: aptitude remove PACKAGE

>What GUI are you referring to?

I think they may have been referring to synaptic package manager or
adept package manager.


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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

[Mumia W..]

On 09/29/2007 12:23 PM, Nigel Henry wrote:


I usually keep all kernels. Alright the ones that don't boot properly can go, 
but sometimes older, non udev ones, are usefull to keep if you are appearing 
to have problems with the udev ones. I constantly get problems with udev 
kernels and my TVcard /dev/video0, and the webcam /dev/video1. Very hit and 
miss as to which app gets which video device.


Someone on the list gave me some rules for udev, but they don't appear to be 
working. I'll have to start a new thread on that one.


Thanks for the reply.

Nigel.



To resolve the problems between udev and your tv-card, you might 
consider blacklisting the respective modules and loading the modules in 
a specified order by placing their names in /etc/modules.


To solve another kind of udev problem on my system, I created an 
alternate device nodes directory called /devs2, and I placed my nodes there.




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Re: Spring clean

[Amit Uttamchandani]

> 
> >What GUI are you referring to?
> 
> I think they may have been referring to synaptic package manager or
> adept package manager.
> 

Actually the GUI he was referring to is the native aptitude ui, which is an 
ncurses based user interface. Very very powerful in my opinion. Simply launch 
aptitude from the terminal.

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Re: Debian with Wireless

[steef]

Chris Lale wrote:

Dennis wrote:
  

When will there be a distro available that will include the setting up
of wireless networks, for those that want the setup in their laptops?  I
have a laptop, and so far the only one that allows me to setup wireless
as I install, is Ubuntu.  I begin to tell you how much I dislike Ubuntu.




There are various HOWTOs for setting up wireless in Debian. Try this phrase in a
search engine:

debian setting up wireless network

Perhaps the NewbieDOC wiki [1] has what you need?

[1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Docs#Help_with_network_and_internet

  
what chris writes is a good start. i use a rather long time an 
asus_wireless card with the rt2500-source package, available in etch. 
(better known as the ralink chip) this kernel_module works perfect.


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Re: xterm .Xdefaults & font size

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Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I edit the .Xdefaults :
> xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
  xterm.*font: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

(the package description for biznet font says it is a bitmap font)

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Re: Spring clean

[Mumia W..]

On 09/29/2007 01:39 PM, andy wrote:
I have used apt-get since installation and am comfortable with that. I 
will have to familiarise myself with aptitude. What GUI are you 
referring to? I enter sudo aptitude at a term. So far, after a quick 
scroll it looks like I'm going to have to work my way through aptitude 
to figure out how to do this.


Cheers





Since you're used to apt-get, keep using that. Use deborphan to help you 
find orphaned packages.


Some people find that mixing aptitude and apt-get leads to trouble.



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Re: Spring clean

[Sid Arth]

Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 09/29/2007 01:39 PM, andy wrote:
>> I have used apt-get since installation and am comfortable with that. I
>> will have to familiarise myself with aptitude. What GUI are you
>> referring to? I enter sudo aptitude at a term. So far, after a quick
>> scroll it looks like I'm going to have to work my way through aptitude
>> to figure out how to do this.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Since you're used to apt-get, keep using that. Use deborphan to help you
> find orphaned packages.
> 
> Some people find that mixing aptitude and apt-get leads to trouble.
> 
> 
> 

I was able to switch with no problems, and I found aptitude keeps things
cleaner. The decision is up to you though.


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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[David Fox]

On 9/21/07, Tim Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For what it's worth, I just got nvidia drivers working on my testing box
> (+Nvidia 7600) by picking up linux-image-2.6.22-2-k7 from sid, and

I have an Nvidia FX5200 that I'd certainly like to get the nvidia
drivers running on, and I had it working before in Etch, but now that
I'm on Lenny I've been having to do the nv bit wanting for the xorg
stuff to settle down a bit for now. But I'm getting ready to do the
plunge and if it means installing a few things from sid then that's
OK. As I recall, it has to do with the kernel mainly because of the
configuration situation, and also nvidia-kernel-source has yet to
propogate into testing and may not be in testing for the foreseeable
future. I am not that well versed in the reasons why, but that's not
really important just now.

Can you detail more about what you did?

Right now, I added in the sources for sid/unstable to
/etc/apt/sources.list and did an aptitude update.

I guess the next best thing to do now is to set up my machine to pin
on testing because if I do a dist-upgrade with sid lines in there I'll
probably end up running sid, which I'm not really prepared to do yet
:).


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Re: Spring clean

[Kamaraju S Kusumanchi]

andy wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Even though it is now approaching fall/autumn (in the northern
> hemisphere anyway), I am wanting to do some spring cleaning of my hard
> drive. In my enthusiasm for Debian's apt-get I have gorged myself on a
> load of packages that I probably don't need. One example is multiple
> language versions of OOo, but there are likely others too.
> 
> Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning
> house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can
> clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?

If you are using sid then

sudo apt-get autoremove

otherwise you can try using deborphan.

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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

[Nigel Henry]

On Saturday 29 September 2007 19:43, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 09/29/2007 12:23 PM, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > I usually keep all kernels. Alright the ones that don't boot properly can
> > go, but sometimes older, non udev ones, are usefull to keep if you are
> > appearing to have problems with the udev ones. I constantly get problems
> > with udev kernels and my TVcard /dev/video0, and the webcam /dev/video1.
> > Very hit and miss as to which app gets which video device.
> >
> > Someone on the list gave me some rules for udev, but they don't appear to
> > be working. I'll have to start a new thread on that one.
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> To resolve the problems between udev and your tv-card, you might
> consider blacklisting the respective modules and loading the modules in
> a specified order by placing their names in /etc/modules.

Yes. That's an idea. Non udev kernels (2.6.8, and 2.6.11) that use devfs have 
no problems. The TV PCI card is constantly /dev/video0, and the USB webcam 
is /dev/video1. As soon as Udev enters the equation it's anybodies guess, 
what will be what. At the moment on Fedora 7, where I have the same problem, 
I have 2 desktop launchers for Xawtv. One pointing to /dev/video0, and the 
other to /dev/video1. If one doesn't work, I try the other. It is a bit of a 
joke to have to do this though.

Having had problems with USB stuff before, where the USB is started early in 
the boot process I think I might try blacklisting just the ov511 driver for 
the USB webcam, and then add it, with it's options to /etc/modules. If that 
doesn't work, I'll leave it blacklisted, and put it in rc.local, which is run 
last, and give that a try.

I'll post back on the results.
>
> To solve another kind of udev problem on my system, I created an
> alternate device nodes directory called /devs2, and I placed my nodes
> there.

Thanks for your help.

Nigel.


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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 01:02:47PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
 
> I guess the next best thing to do now is to set up my machine to pin
> on testing because if I do a dist-upgrade with sid lines in there I'll
> probably end up running sid, which I'm not really prepared to do yet
> :).

I don't know much about the state of nvidia drivers in lenny, but to pin 
your install you just need:

APT::Default-Release "testing";

in /etc/apt/apt.conf (create it if if doesn't exist). You can check by 
running 'apt-cache policy'. You should get a higher priority (990) for 
lenny. Packages from sid you can install by running:

aptitude install -t unstable package

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Re: udev and automounting

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:55:23AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:27:35AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >> The package usbmount might be what you need.
> >
> >The description of usbmount says:
> >
> > This package automatically mounts USB mass
> > storage devices (typically  USB pens) when they
> > are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
> > removed.
> >
> >Does this limit filesystems to FAT?  FAT doesn't care if you rip it out 
> > without doing any cleanup.  If you've formatted your thumbdrive as an ext2 
> > filesystem, how can it be properly unmounted if you simply unplug it?  
> > Won't that mean you have to run fsck every time you plug it in again?
> 
> maybe mount with sync instead of async, though mount warns of
> life-shortening possibilities with flash stuff. probably a good idea
> to go for noatime also to help coutneract that. Both of those would
> minimise the risk of damage -- so long as the current process was
> done, you could pull it. that just a guess. check man mount.

You could also run 'sync;umount /dev/sda1' before unplugging, just to be 
sure.

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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[David Fox]

On 9/29/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I don't know much about the state of nvidia drivers in lenny, but to pin
> your install you just need:
>
> APT::Default-Release "testing";
>

I went ahead and did that, fixed another problem (dynamic mmap running
out of room), and
installed (but haven't yet enabled) the new kernel 2.6.22-k7 from sid.

But when I try to install nvidia-kernel-common and
nvidia-kernel-source from sid, using aptitude
-t unstable, I get a forest of installation problems which to me don't
seem like I really want to do this yet.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo aptitude -t unstable install
nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
  nvidia-glx xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-all
The following packages have been automatically kept back:
  amarok-engines amarok-xine blinken capplets-data cdrdao compiz-core
compiz-gnome compiz-gtk compiz-plugins cpp-4.2 docbook-xml
  epiphany-browser evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server
evolution-data-server-common flac g++-4.2 gcc-4.2 gcc-4.2-base
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Re: Spring clean

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:18:41PM +0100, andy wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Even though it is now approaching fall/autumn (in the northern hemisphere 
> anyway), I am wanting to do some spring cleaning of my hard drive. In my 
> enthusiasm for Debian's apt-get I have gorged myself on a load of packages 
> that I probably don't need. One example is multiple language versions of 
> OOo, but there are likely others too.
>
> Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning 
> house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can 
> clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?

I do my housekeeping in aptitude interactive mode, with a flat package 
list (this is my default, but you can get one from the menu) where I 
mark everything as auto-installed (press M) that I don't specifically 
want. It might take a while, but aptitude will then remove all 
unnecessary stuff.

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[Marcelo Chiapparini]

Hi,

I have a portable Iomega 120 GB HD. I am running etch. When I connect
the HD to the USB port, etch doesn't show any device attached to the
port... I wonder why? the portable hd doesn't acts like another usb
device?

Thanks in advance for the help

Marcelo

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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 01:33:59PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> On 9/29/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know much about the state of nvidia drivers in lenny, but to pin
> > your install you just need:
> >
> > APT::Default-Release "testing";
> >
> 
> I went ahead and did that, fixed another problem (dynamic mmap running
> out of room), and
> installed (but haven't yet enabled) the new kernel 2.6.22-k7 from sid.
> 
> But when I try to install nvidia-kernel-common and
> nvidia-kernel-source from sid, using aptitude
> -t unstable, I get a forest of installation problems which to me don't
> seem like I really want to do this yet.

[...]

> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
> 
> Needless to say, I think I will say 'q' at this point.

Sorry my friend, I honestly think that you shouldn't run a mixed system 
if you can't sort this out on your own (not claiming that I could 
though).

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Re: Problems capturing audio with Intel ICH5...

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:59:04 +0200, Andrea Giuliano wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 22:51:30 +0200, Andrea Giuliano wrote:
>> Maybe gnome-mixer does not give you access to the relevant capture
>> controls.
>
> I guess I tried every single control, they're even too many, but this
> could a possibility: a control that doesn't affect playback during
> recording, but affects the volume of the recording itself. But which?
>>> Alsa seems correctly configured (at least, sudo alsaconf gives no error).
>> Please post the output of:
>> lsmod | egrep 'snd|intel8x0'
>> amixer | egrep -i '^( .*capture|[^ ])'
>
> Here they are. Please note that I have both cards installed, but I put on 
> the Ensoniq after I got the audio problem, so I'm almost sure the Ensoniq 
> has no relevance, at present.

I agree, let's ignore the presence of the Ensoniq card for now.

[ snip: list of loaded snd-modules looks OK to me ]

> Simple mixer control 'Master',0
> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
> Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
> Simple mixer control 'Surround Jack Mode',0
> Simple mixer control 'Center',0
> Simple mixer control 'LFE',0
> Simple mixer control 'Line',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [on] Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'CD',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off] Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Playback 25 [81%] [off] Capture [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 25 [81%] [off] Capture [on]

You probably already tried to reduce the Playback level for the mic (to
make sure it is not some weird feedback effect).

> Simple mixer control 'Mic Boost (+20dB)',0

Check the full output of amixer for the Mic Boost settings. I would put
it at 1.00 dB or even 0.00 dB for a start.

> Simple mixer control 'Mic Select',0
> Simple mixer control 'Video',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Phone',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
>   Capture channels: Mono
>   Mono: Playback [off] Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Monitor',0
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Valid',0
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0
>   Capture channels: Mono
> Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source',0
> Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0
> Simple mixer control 'Aux',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Playback 7 [23%] [on] Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Playback 7 [23%] [on] Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Mono Output Select',0
> Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Capture 0 - 15
>   Front Left: Capture 15 [100%] [on]
>   Front Right: Capture 15 [100%] [on]
> Simple mixer control 'Mix',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Mix Mono',0
>   Capture exclusive group: 0
>   Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Front Left: Capture [off]
>   Front Right: Capture [off]
> Simple mixer control 'Channel Mode',0
> Simple mixer control 'DAC Clock Source',0
> Simple mixer control 'External Amplifier',0

If you cannot improve the recording quality by reducing the Mic Boost
then you could try to successively turn all capture controls to zero
until you find the one that causes the distorting amplification. I
recommend using "alsamixer" for this; it has a curses-based interface
which gives you a good overview of the playback and capture controls.
You can switch between the two groups of controls by pressing the TAB
key; use CURSOR LEFT/RIGHT to select a control, CURSOR UP/DOWN to change
volume/amplification, and SPACE to toggle capture.

The names and the interaction of the capture channels are not the same
for all cards, unfortunately. Therefore you are left with trial and
error, but I am pretty sure that one of them will allow you reduce the
amplification to a reasonable value. The names of the controls are
sometimes confusing or at least not really helpful; for example, my
Intel ICH8 card has a control called "Digital" which determines the
amplification of the recordings. If I set it to its maximum value of 30
dB then I get the same kind of problems that you described in your
earlier mail.

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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 05:11:56 -0700, Vivek.M wrote:

[...]

> > See "blacklist" in the manpage of modprobe.conf. Sometimes 
> > it can be necessary to use "install MODULENAME /bin/true" 
> > in addition to the blacklisting.
> 
> This didn't work either :(
> 
> darkstar> cat /etc/modprobe.d/blockedMods
> install fan   /bin/true
> install thermal   /bin/true
> install processor /bin/true
> 
> Also, contents of: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
> 
> blacklist fan
> blacklist thermal
> blacklist processor

Are you using an initrd? (Using an initrd is the default for the stock
Debian kernels.)

Maybe the modules are included in your initrd and loaded so early in the
boot process that the modprobe.d settings are bypassed.

You can check your initrd like this:

zcat /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | cpio --list | egrep 'fan|thermal|processor'

(I know that this works for yaird-generated initrds, and I think it
 should also work with the ones from mkinitrd.)

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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[Francisco M Neto]

On 9/29/07, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
> nvidia-kernel-source recommends nvidia-glx (>= 100.14.19)
> Score is -362
>
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
>
> Needless to say, I think I will say 'q' at this point.

   Well, I do not really use aptitude, but I really don't think this
is the best approach for you to install the nvidia drivers.

   I have an FX 5200 here, too, and what I did was install
module-assistant and then run m-a a-i nvidia. Worked like a charm.

   It should be noted, though, that if you're running a kernel version
greater than 2.21, I think, you may run into problems with
paravirtualization, since the precompiled kernels from 2.21 on come
with that option turned on by default, which disallows non-GPL kernel
modules. If you wanna keep a new kernel you will have to recompile it
without that option.

   Hope this helps.

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Re: nvidia-glx and xorg

[Mike Polyakov]

Whenever I need to install nVidia drivers, I just go to their web page
and download the appropriate installer for Linux. It usually compiles
the drivers and installs them without any hassles. I had problems with
getting the drivers from standard Debian repositories to work in the
past, but the nVidia installer works all the time. I would suggest to
try it and see how it goes for you.


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Re: Debian may lose a user

[s. keeling]

Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >keeling:
> >> Plenty of stuff, lots of replies and multipost threads.  Can't see any
> >> bug reports.  Guess it's off to the BTS to search there.  Drat.
> >>
> >> How 'bout that?  Search of the BTS for submitter reports no reports
> >> found.  Huh?  What address did you submit them from?
> > 
> > H, methinks the emperor has no clothes.  ;-)
> 
>  Hey, that's pretty pejorative. I TOLD you I don't use Debian. I
>  didn't submit from my machine. So it isn't in my name, is it?

Ah.  I guess that might be an overly broad assumption on my part these
days.

I don't think you're a troll.

>  No. It seems likely that she will blast Debian, and I just didn't
>  want to "disappear" off the list with no explanation, and thought
>  that some explanation might aid the group.

Okay.  My Mom just went from an iMac to Vista.  I feel your pain.

Still, I'd rather the perceived problems got fixed.


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Re: Debian may lose a user

[s. keeling]

Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  * s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Sep 26 04:27 -0500]:
> >
> > Btw, THIS IS ALL VOLUNTEER WORK HERE.  fyi.
> 
>  Yup.  And I for one appreciate our Debian Volunteer Overlords.  ;-)

Ah geez.  You made me laugh.  I even considered typing "LOL" ...  Crap!


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Re: xmodmap again - not solved after all

[s. keeling]

Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 09/25/2007 09:25 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I've twice thought I'd solved this one but no. To recap: my .xinitrc
> > contains the line: "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap". which has worked for many
> > months or even years. In the last couple of weeks the command is not
> > being run.
> 
>  Try this in your .bashrc:
> 
>  if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
>   if (which xmodmap); then
>   xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
>   fi
>  fi > /dev/null
> 
>  I've never seen it, but I don't assume that xmodmap will automatically 
>  be called.
> 
>  Note, the code I wrote has a problem. You need to find a way to test 
>  that xmodmap hasn't already been invoked for the X server. To do this, 
>  you might test if your key mappings are already in xmodmap before 

 if [ "$XMODMAP" != "Done" ]; then
   if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
if (which xmodmap); then
xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
export XMODMAP=DONE
fi
   fi > /dev/null 
 fi

I just have:

   usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
   if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
 /usr/bin/xmodmap $usermodmap
   else
 # fix the mouse at the least.
 #
 /usr/bin/xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1"
   fi

in my ~/.xinitrc (I'm a southpaw, btw).


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Re: Debian may lose a user

[s. keeling]

Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Roger B.A. Klorese wrote:
> > 
> > a lot of time working on non-goals; the question at hand is
> > whether adoption by the level of user in question is or is not a
> > goal.

I'm satisfied to leave that up to the individual.  It's none of my
business.  Caveat emptor applies in all situations.  If they want to
use it, _good for them_.  If they want crapware from Redmond instead,
_good for them_.  Irrelevant to me.  I've got what I want.

>  I'm sure Debian doesn't depend on any one user. I'm also sure that
>  she's not the only one like her.
> 
>  Anyway, I think this thread has probably already gone on too long.

Andrew Sackville-Jones(sp?) has the multiple queues thing working.
What else is a problem?


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[s. keeling]

s/Jones/West/g

You gotta change your name to Steve.


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Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges"

[s. keeling]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  You need a more compliant girlfriend.  Lucy Liu-bot comes to mind.
>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dated_a_Robot

wtf did I just waste fifteen minutes reading?  You do not point at
wikipedia articles citing toons.  Geez.

It may have been an enjoyable episode *seen*, but read?  Ick.


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Re: xmodmap again - not solved after all

[s. keeling]

Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 27 Sep 2007, s. keeling wrote:
> > Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >  On 09/25/2007 09:25 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > > > I've twice thought I'd solved this one but no. To recap: my .xinitrc
> > > > contains the line: "xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap". which has worked for many
> > > > months or even years. In the last couple of weeks the command is not
> > > 
> > >  Try this in your .bashrc:
> > > 
> > >  if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then
> > 
> >usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
> >if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
> >  /usr/bin/xmodmap $usermodmap
> >else
> 
>  Unfortunately, neither of these works for me. The problem appears to be
>  that $DISPLAY is not set. I have tried setting various values for it

If you've been expecting this to work for the console, that's your
error.  X Window defines the DISPLAY variable.  If you're not running
X, xmodmap is irrelevant.  Xmodmap is an X application.


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Re: Stupid question (was Re: Repost of some earlier described "challenges")

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Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I don't like it, but I also don't like reloading. :-)

Ah, ya puss!  Burn a backup CD and do it.  Think of all those doors
opening up for you.  You can try anything!  =[8]-)


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>  Ahh you will have to excuse me, but what exactly is top posting and
>  what do you mean by trimming?
>  Ill try to fix it myself if I can.
> 
>  On 9/26/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 06:12:50PM -0500, Sid Arth wrote:
> >
> > > or any other email client. Those two do everything I need them to do.
> >
> > Apparently they don't do any automatic proper email formating (no
> > top-posting and proper trimming).  You still have to do that yourself!

You sir, are a troll.  Good troll, too.


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Re: Newbie help with simple C program, USB device under Debian

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Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Kevin Mark wrote:
> >
> > Please refrain from your attacks. 'Be nice to folks' is a general rule.
> 
>  Your right. My apologies to Oleg and the list.

Quite right, and thanks.  Done it before myself and hope to minimize
its ocurrence in the future.

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DiffIndex ignored when updating repository?

[Nick De Graeve]

I just upgraded our server to Etch but now I see there are line
starting with "Ign" when I update my repositories:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# aptitude update
Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release [58.2kB]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages [4287kB]
Get:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/contrib Packages [62.9kB]
Fetched 4408kB in 19s (227kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done

Is this something to worry about?

Thanks.

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Re: Upgrade problem: "dpkg: 'x' not found on PATH"

[Nick De Graeve]

I was able to fix it. Apparently if the error occurs, it doesn't
install the package at all. So I put the necessary dirs in root's path
and ran 'aptitude install' again for the failed packages and it was
ok.
Thanks.

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

[s. keeling]

Pál Csányi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  What about stumpwm?
> 
>  http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
> 
>  Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

You could (aptitude search):

p   stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager

and no I never have.


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Re: syslog recommendations?

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Michael Shuler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
> > I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
> > like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
> > me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
> > other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).
> 
>  I am not aware of a single package that will do all that you want, but a
>  combination of a few packages should get you there.  I use syslog-ng for
>  aggregating logs from many servers, and I think it far surpasses the
>  standard udp syslog daemon for reliability.  Running logcheck and/or

It's far more powerful in filtering too.  When pump was filling my
/var with meaningless logging, syslog-ng was very easy to configure to
/dev/null them.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: canon printer driver question]

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can anybody tell me on the debian list who this is/these are? i never 
sent a message to this (fake?) list!


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Re: Re: GNOME: Associate multiple queues with one printer: HOW?

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Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> Mike McCarty([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
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> [that he couldn's use the GUI to put multiple queues on one printer]
>
>> I don't run Gnome or KDE here I hope they accept the Cups config.
>> If not, someone someone that does run them, should submit a bug
>> report.
 CUPS Administration -> Add Printer


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>> USB keyboard?  (I've always been leery of them, because of the
>> mutually-exclusive HID and {o,u}chi drivers.
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Re: Basic Tomcatt5.5 Admin question

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On Sep 21, 2:00 pm, Dancing Fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks.  This helps a lot.   I   also tried
> chown -R www-data  /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps
> without much luck.
>
> Cchris
> On Sep 21, 1:10 pm, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:42:59 -0700
>
> > Dancing Fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > > I  finally got Tomcat5.5 going on Etch  AMD and  I start studying the
> > > JSP developers guide but I get stuck in  the beginning.   The book
> > > says to create a  new directory under  ROOT but  I  don't have
> > > permission in my default account.  The  last  install I  did a
> > > chgrp / user/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/ROOT www-data but I screwed  the
> > > package up so  bad that I re-installed the system.   Could anyone
> > > tell me how the is typically  done?
> > > Thanks.
> > > Chris
>
> > I use the "user web applications", I think it is a better approach for
> > learning stuff. I put the following in /etc/tomcat5.5/server.xml, in
> > the  section:
>
> >  > directoryName="public_html"
> > userClass="org.apache.catalina.startup.PasswdUserDatabase"/>
>
> >  > docBase="/home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp" debug="0"> 
>
> > My pages can be reached ashttp://localhost:8180/~nyizsa/jsp/, and they
> > are actually located in /home/nyizsa/public_html/jsp.
>
> > You may find more useful information athttp://localhost:8180/tomcat-docs/
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Re: Re: Network settings don't stick after reboot

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Logan Five([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> I have the latest version of Debian running on Linksys NSLU.  I have it set 
> for
> a static IP and I've added a correct default gateway to my config and 
> everything
> works ok.  

How/where did you set the static IP?

> However, when I reboot, it goes back to DHCP and the gateway route
> doesn't stick.  



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Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from debian

[J]

Trying to get a network printer HP LaserJet (tm) 2100tn to print from
debian that I got for free.
I got it to print from windows because it had some Java aplet that
downloaded DLL
and did a windows install and it will print from Windows now.
The software it installed was called "HP internet Printer Connection".

Any how, KDE's add printer cannot scan and find the printer???
So, I can't add it.  Should I try to add it as
and IPP printer or other type?
I tried entering the IP address in the add printer dialog,
but then it show blank selection for chooing the model
and maker of the printer on the next page of the KDE add printer
dialog.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
J


$ telnet 192.168.1.5:631
telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:631/telnet: Name or service not
known
$ telnet 192.168.1.5:9100
telnet: could not resolve 192.168.1.5:9100/telnet: Name or service not
kn
$ telnet 192.168.1.5
Trying 192.168.1.5...
Connected to 192.168.1.5.
Escape character is '^]'.

HP JetDirect

Please type "?" for HELP, or "/" for current settings
>
> /

   ===JetDirect Telnet Configuration===
Firmware Rev.   : G.08.04
MAC Address : 00:30:c1:0c:0f:3f
Config By   : DHCP

IP Address  : 192.168.1.5
Subnet Mask : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway : 192.168.1.1
Syslog Server   : Not Specified
Idle Timeout: 90 Seconds
Set Cmnty Name  : Not Specified
Host Name   : HP2100

DHCP Config : Enabled
Passwd  : Disabled
IPX/SPX : Enabled
DLC/LLC : Enabled
Ethertalk   : Enabled
Banner page : Enabled
> quit


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Re: Nomachine on Debian unstable?

[Stefan Bellon]

On Wed, 26 Sep, Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> Le Tuesday 25 September 2007 07:51:12 Stefan Bellon, vous avez écrit :

> > After that I tracked down what happens if I do
> >
> > $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > I only got that working when I disabled PAM in my sshd_config and
> > enabled password authentication and empty passwords. But nxclient
> > still cannot connect.
> 
> I think we can't test a nx login with the default key.
> 
> $ sudo cat /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/authorized_keys2
> no-port-forwarding,no-agent-forwarding,command="/usr/NX/bin/nxserver
> --login" ssh-dss B3N...

No, why should it not be possible to manually login? As I mentioned,
when I disable PAM, and enable password authentication and empty
passwords, then I *can* login that way and nxserver starts and waits
for me to enter commands.

> Only nxserver can be run with the key.
> 
> When I try manually, it asks me a passphrase :
> $ sudo cp /usr/NX/home/nx/.ssh/default.id_dsa.pub nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ sudo chown gilles:gilles nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ chmod 600 nx.id_dsa.pub
> $ ssh -i nx.id_dsa.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --login
> Enter passphrase for key 'nx.id_dsa.pub':
> 
> And I don't know it...

The default has an empty passphrase.

> Perhaps I will have the same problem if I try to upgrade.. Which
> version do you have ?
> I have nxserver_3.0.0-63_x86_64.deb, nxnode_3.0.0-76_x86_64.deb and 
> nxclient_3.0.0-68_x86_64.deb.

I tried with nxserver_3.0.0-69_i386.deb, nxnode_3.0.0-83_i386.deb and
nxclient_3.0.0-78_i386.deb.

-- 
Stefan Bellon
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Re: cronjob problem

[André Berger]

* Angela Gavazzi (2007-09-27):
> Hallo, 
> 
> could someone please explain me why the following cronjob generates an empy 
> file when copy-pasting the command to console generates a "full" file?
> It's in roots crontab created with crontab -e
> 
> 00 21 * * * /usr/local/ldap/sbin/slapcat 
> > /var/backups/ldap/dumps/slapdump.`date +\%g\%m\%d_\%k:\%M`
> 
> Debian version is etch.

/path/to/date

-André

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