Where to store iptables script

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

By the help of http://iptables-script.dk/ I have created the script below.
Where should I store it?
And does it look ok?
Thanks, Jacob
#!/bin/sh
# Disable forwarding
echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
# load some modules (if needed)
modprobe ip_nat_ftp
modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp
# Flush
iptables -t nat -F POSTROUTING
iptables -t nat -F PREROUTING
iptables -t nat -F OUTPUT
iptables -F
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
#localhost
iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
iptables -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
# Open ports on router for server/services
iptables -A INPUT -s 1.2.3.4 -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 20
iptables -A INPUT -s 1.2.3.4 -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 21
iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 22
iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 25
iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 80
iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 143
iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT -p tcp --dport 993
# STATE RELATED for router
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
# Enable forwarding
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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Kernel compilation question

[Magnus Therning]

I have been trying to compile a custom kernel the last few days, and I
noticed a phenomenon that's new to me. it seems that the first 'make
menuconfig' uses /boot/config-2.6.8-1-k7 (the config for my currently
running kernel) to get its defaults.

Howcome? (Is it related to '.config support' being compiled into the
standard Debian kernels?)
How do prevent it from happening? (I unmounted /boot, but that that's
less than elegant.)

/M

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Re: why not anaconda installer

[John Summerfield]

Kent West wrote:
belahcene abdelkader wrote:
--- Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:22:09PM -0700, belahcene
abdelkader wrote:
  

I don't understand  yet why debian doesn't  use

the
  

anaconda as installer. It is very easy  for installation !

Easy is subjective. Easy for what? How?
  

Easy for first-timers. A GUI is what they're used to. It's there, it 
works and it's easy to use.

If you prefer to do text-mode installs, that's pretty easy too.
Easy for sysadmins.
Just give me some time to set up my install server and to make a 
standard configuration or two, then line 'em up. HP Vectras & Pavilions, 
Compaqs, IBMs with or without SCSI, Acers, cheap clones, IA32, AMD-64 I 
don't care, just plug 'em in, boot them, wait for them to shut down in 
5-10 minutes, unplug 'em.

Intel NICs, 3COM,  VIA RHINE, Realtek - I don't care. Video cards - any 
brand, I don't care.

It's that easy. I know because  I used to install RHL 7.3 in under 15 
minutes on a Celeron 733 or some-such on a 10 Mbit LAN.


OK ; First look at for example  when you install
Knoppix ( I mean specially for the new debian user )
The hardware is automatically found , the choice of the package at 
least the commonly used  a friendly graphical interface
( same thing with suse or redhat installer) I would like to get 
something like this to install the
debian
I prefere debian for many aspects, but I think the
installation is not easy yet.
 

The general answers given are:
1) Debian works on 13 different architectures. The installer must work 
on all thirteen also. Trying to squeeze an anaconda-style installer to 
fit 13 different arches is a lot more work than sticking with what 
we've got.

I'm glad of an opportunity to dispell some of these myths.
Today, Anaconda supports these architectures:
IA32
IA64
AMD-64
PPC - IBM iSeries, pSeries and Mac
IBM S/390 & zSeries
I think, from a quick look at the code, it also supports Sparc64 and alpha.
Not all platforms Debian supports for sure.
Of the platforms available, IA32 is the most demanding because of the 
enormous array have hardware that must be supported. AMD-64 and IA64 
would come close.

With other platforms the number of vendors is greatly reduced - mostly 
Macs run Apple hardware,vendors if hardware for IBM machines will make 
their hardware look to IBM software like IBM hardware etc.

Anaconda's been around for years, it's had time to mature and have its 
most serious faults beaten out of it. Recently, I installed RHL 6.2 on a 
Sparc because Woody wouldn't.

2) Installation on Debian only has to be done once, unlike some other 
distros that require a re-installation with each so-called "upgrade". 
Therefore installation ease is not a high priority. Maintainability is.

I've got news for you. Any RHEL is supported for (I think) five years, 
certainly more than three. If I'm a corporatiion buying on a three-year 
lease, upgrading to the next release is completely unimportant. However, 
technology updates _are._ I want to be able to run recent PHP, to 
upgrade to a (supported) 2.6 kernel, upgrade my KDE or Gnome when there 
are significant improvements.

More news.
I presume that by "maintainability" you are referring to software 
maintainability. Red Hat's caught up.Sign up for Red Hat (Enterprise) 
Network, run up2date nightly in download mode and it's just like running 
apt-get in download mode. Additionally, you have yum (which I've never 
used) and apt-get (which I've never used on an rpm-based system).

We've passed on past Anaconda, but it's hardware detection that makes 
Anaconda work so well, and it continues to work well after install.

Motherboard died? Just replace it. And the PCI cards if you want. 
Reboot, and kudzu starts up to reconfigure your network (because you 
have an onboard SIS NIC now instead of the PCI realtek), your video, 
your sound, your mouse.

Several times in the past month I've sene people asking about which 
driver for their network card. Not an issue with RHL, it just happens.

People assert that the text editor is the best configuration tool 
around, but the fact is I'd rather not _have_ to know what module drives 
my Via NIC and where to specify it. Better, IMV, that there is software 
that can do it and do it right first time every time.

3) The Debian developers are volunteers. They scratch their own itch, 
and creating an installer isn't within their domain of interests as 
much as other projects are. If you want a good installer, write it 
yourself, or talk someone else into writing it. Don't demand things of 
volunteers.

The volunteers solicit contributions including bug reports and 
suggestions for improvement. Those are every bit as valuable as helping 
the less experienced on these lists.


4) Some folks don't like anaconda-style installers, because it's a 
solution that doesn't fit their problem. I'm not familiar with 
anaconda, but does it allow remote network-based installations? 
Booting from a USB pe

Re: why not anaconda installer

[John Summerfield]

Brian Nelson wrote:
is there any reason ? or is there a new installer in
project
   

In addition to the reasons listed in Ken's post, I don't think anaconda
integrates particularly well with Debian.  
 

On the contrary, it's been done and I suspect the workforce was two 
people of whom one was part time:-)

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Re: alternative to cdrecord?

[John Summerfield]

Brian Pack wrote:
With the old
kernel, a user could potentially wipe a drives firmware.
 

which actually happend with a release of Mandrake Linux and some brand I 
won't name coz I don't recall its name of CD-ROM.

The manufactorer misused one of the standard SCSI commands:-)

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Re: domain name of debian

[David Baron]

"domainname" will display it.
"domainname my.domain" will set it.

Question is, what does this mean. I would like email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to 
be delivered to the user mailbox. If I do this with an exim4 "mail" command 
(I had routers set), this may work. If I send such email through "outside" 
providers, this will not work.

On Tuesday 24 August 2004 00:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> >> where does the domain name of a debain stored?
> >> is there anyway to change it?
> >
> > Try edit /etc/domainname or /etc/hostname depending on what you want
> > to acheive
> >
> > Rus
>
> dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
> search demo.room
> nameserver 192.168.9.4
> nameserver 192.168.8.1
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f
> Dolphin.demo.room
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> NIS domain name may be in /etc/defaultdomain (to my surprise).  More
> usually, it's in /etc/yp.conf

Re: Scrolling in console

[messmate]

/usr/bin/most
mess-mate

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 12:43:42 -0500
Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am wondering if there is a way to scroll to the
>right in a console?  When I open mutt I cannot read
>the entire subject header on the email - it trails
>off the screen.  Is there a way to recapture the
>rest of this subject line?  I have also had this
>problem in slrn as well.
>
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Re: ppp problems

[Thomas Hood]

On Mon, 2004-08-23 at 19:52, Haldor Riddering wrote:
> cannot do dns lookups, surf, ping anything else.
> what am I doing wrong? how can I fix it?

Red Faction wrote:
> Sounds like resolve.conf issue. Look into /etc/resolve.conf and add name
> servers there if not listed or not assigned by dhcp.

The name of the file is '/etc/resolv.conf'.

This file will be updated automagically by pppd or by the resolvconf
package if you have the latter installed (recommended).

Probably all you need to do is set the "usepeerdns" option for pppd.
Look in the global options file /etc/ppp/options , in the options file
for your modem /etc/ppp/options.tty*, and in the options file for your
provider /etc/ppp/peers/ to see whether that option is
already set.

You might want to read the Networking chapter of the Debian Reference
for background information.
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Re: domain name of debian

[John Summerfield]

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
 

NIS domain name may be in /etc/defaultdomain (to my surprise).  More 
usually, it's in /etc/yp.conf
   

It's _never_ in /etc/yp.conf - always in /etc/defaultdomain.
The name is an inheritance from Sun, they invented NIS and
on Solaris the NIS domainname is stored in /etc/defaultdomein.
 

_I_ checked before I posted. I've used yp for years. here's what the man 
page says:
yp.conf(5)  
yp.conf(5)

NAME
  /etc/yp.conf - NIS binding configuration file
DESCRIPTION
  The file /etc/yp.conf is read from ypbind(8) at startup or when 
receiv-
  ing signal SIGHUP.  The entries  are  used  for  the  initial  
binding.
  Valid entries are

  domain nisdomain server hostname
 Use  server  hostname  for the domain nisdomain.  You 
could have
 more then one entry of this type for a single domain.

there's more, I'll leave you to check:-)
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Re: Getting disk labels

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 03:02:00PM -0400, Tong wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> I used to use e2label to get disk labels. But now I also have reiserfs
> disk, and e2label won't work on reiserfs disks. 
> 
> What is the generic way to get disk labels? 

I don't think there is a generic way. Labels are filesystem dependant.
Are you sure that reiserfs supports labels ?

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Re: configuration of nsswitch.conf ignored by system

[Matthias Eichler]

Hi Thomas,

On Mo, 2004-08-23 at 18:59 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > I've the problem that on all debian systems (Woody, Sid) it
> > seems that some configuration changes of the nsswitch.conf
> > are ignored by the system.
> See #160596 and those merged with it.

As I am not the "over-geek" I have to bother you with some
further questions:
- I read that right that its not a nscd-bug or something
  but a bug in the glibc which doesnt handle the nsswitch.conf
  the correct way?
- The bug was tagged "WONTFIX"...does this just mean that
  nobody from the Deb-Crew will fix it because it relies
  on other developers?
- Where can I monitor this bug, where will I see when the
  bug is fixed as this is really a pain in the ass on one
  of our production systems.
- Does anybody know the timeframe in which such a bug will 
  be fixed? Days, Months, Years? Because the original Bug
  opener is from 2002!

Thanks,

Matt



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Re: attempt to access beyond end of device

[John Summerfield]

steve downes wrote:
on Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 07:38:59AM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote: 
 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 03:13:52PM +0100, steve downes wrote:
   

I keep getting the message below:-
attempt to access beyond end of device>
03:02 rw=0 want=1898676924, limit 4883760
I get it when I open the /etc directory in midnight commander ...
 

Could be very bad...
Try closing your programs and rebooting your computer with the force
fsck option, you can use this command (as root) :
  shutdown -F -r now
Then tell us what the fsck reported.
   

It fixed 4 inodes then crashed out with :-
/dev/hda2: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY 

etc
Ran fsck maually & it found thousands of inode faults on the back end
of the disk. It now reboots & the fault has cleared but so has a lot
of software. Looks like a re-install. Fortunately it's a data free
machine except for a server backup.
Thanks for your help
 

I'd give it a damnd good memory test first. Last time _I_ had lots of 
errors, replacing everything round the disk drive cured the problem:-)


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Re: Software RAID using Sarge Installer

[Alexei Chetroi]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:50:34PM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 20:50:34 -0500
> From: John Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Software RAID using Sarge Installer
> 
> Would someone help me, preferably off-list if the question's too simple,
> know exactly what choices to make using the new Sarge installer and RAID 1
> for mirroring?  During the partitioning, there is a chance to set up RAID 1,
> but I don't fully understand exactly what partitions are required.  I just
> want a simple scheme with a root partition and a swap partition, plus
> whatever else is necessary for RAID 1.

  I'm playing around with sarge debian installer RC1, trying to install
root on raid. with RC1 it is possible to create md devices and start
installation of packages, but IMHO there's a bug, and installer starts
mdadm for raid monitoring, mdadm holds /target busy, thus preventing it
from unmounting, which causes d-i to abort this an error. BTW d-i warns
you that root on raid isn't officially supported.

  I think it is easier to install debian on single disk and migrate it
later on RAID. There's howto, try to google for it.

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Re: attempt to access beyond end of device

[steve downes]

> >etc
> >
> >Ran fsck maually & it found thousands of inode faults on the back end
> >of the disk. It now reboots & the fault has cleared but so has a lot
> >of software. Looks like a re-install. Fortunately it's a data free
> >machine except for a server backup.
> >
> >Thanks for your help
> > 
> >
> 
> I'd give it a damnd good memory test first. Last time _I_ had lots of 
> errors, replacing everything round the disk drive cured the problem:-)
> 

Yes, I was wondering what to do like that. Any recommends? 

The same hard disc is dual booting win98 quite happily.

Steve


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Re: configuration of nsswitch.conf ignored by system

[Matthias Eichler]

Hi

On Di, 2004-08-24 at 09:47 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:

> The Debian maintainers seem to regard it as a feature of glibc
> rather than as a bug.
[...]
> They regard it as a feature, so the behavior probably will
> not be changed.

How can it be a feature when I make some configuration to
nsswitch.conf (meaning: dear lookup-process, please stop
here when successfull) and this is ignored?
If a configuration is ignored it should be (nearly) always
a bug, shouldnt it? ;-)

> It won't be fixed.  There is a workaround, though, involving
> the addition of IPv6 lines to /etc/hosts.  Read through all
> the reports carefully to get a full picture.

Ok, maybe we come closer, maybe the bug you told me is not
the one which fits to my problem, because I do not have any
problems with the "hosts"-lookup, but with the groups-lookup!
So it shouldnt have to something with "getaddrinfo", should
it?

Thanks,

Matthias




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Re: Debian and KDE33

[Josef Oswald]

John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Kevin Mark wrote:
>
>>'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of
>> debian -- it is the only one with security updates.
>>
>
> Sarge also has official security updates.

Where please? 

Because here it says: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/

Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not
managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security
updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security
Team's FAQ.

So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? 

Thanks :-) 

>
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Re: enable bonding

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Sorry, by Googling I found some options.
Is it correct below?
No, dmesg said this:
tg3.c:v2.9 (March 8, 2004)
eth0: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95704A6) rev 2002 PHY(5704)] 
(PCIX:133MHz:64-bit) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:0f:20:7a:ca:1f
eth1: Tigon3 [partno(BCM95704A6) rev 2002 PHY(5704)] 
(PCIX:133MHz:64-bit) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:0f:20:7a:ca:1e
Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v2.6.0 (January 14, 2004)
bonding: Warning: either miimon or arp_interval and arp_ip_target module 
parameters must be specified, otherwise bonding will not detect link
 failures! see bonding.txt for details.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on sd(8,1), internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
bonding: Warning: failed to get speed/duplex from eth0, speed forced to 
100Mbps, duplex forced to Full.
bonding: bond0: enslaving eth0 as an active interface with an up link.
bonding: Warning: failed to get speed/duplex from eth1, speed forced to 
100Mbps, duplex forced to Full.
bonding: bond0: enslaving eth1 as an active interface with an up link.
tg3: eth1: Link is up at 100 Mbps, half duplex.
tg3: eth1: Flow control is off for TX and off for RX.
device eth0 entered promiscuous mode
device eth1 entered promiscuous mode
device bond0 entered promiscuous mode

# apt-get install ifenslave
In /etc/modules i put "bonding miimon=250 mode=1".
In /etc/network/interfaces I put this:
auto bond0
iface bond0 inet static
address 1.2.3.4
netmask 1.2.3.4
gateway 1.2.3.4
up ifenslave bond0 eth0
up ifenslave bond0 eth1
post-down ifconfig eth1 down
post-down ifconfig eth0 down

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Using SuSE9.1 software to upgrade X?

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

Title: Using SuSE9.1 software to upgrade X?






Hi all,

I got SuSE 9.1 professional edition and aliened some of its GUI packages to produce .deb packages. These packages were specifically X-related since I wanted a better GUI than that provided by woody 3.0r2. This most especially applies to gnome which I want to upgrade to 2.4 that I find in SuSE. I was not successful in my quest and would like some advise. Thanks.

Re: release change

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Kaiser, Hans wrote:

Hi Hans,
the what is "in" testing and unstable will always change.
Also, the code name of stable and testing will change.
the code name of unstable will always be sid.

whenold current testing unstable
stable  stable

NOW:slink   woody   sarge   sid
SOON:   woody   sarge   etchsid
FUTURE: sarge   etch??? sid

> - how will the branch switch from Testing to newStable be realized?

after everything in testing checks out, it will become the new stable.
so, sarge will be the current stable which means it will have security
updates and will no longer accept new packages. actually it has security
updates now but I dont think is always the case.

> - how can I tag my installation to a defined branch to stay on the
> currentTesting, which will be equal at the release date with newStable? 

track 'sarge'

> I do
> not want, that my installation automatically moves from currentTesting to
> newTesting after the releaseDay. Currently I have tagged my installation to
> testing, should I switch the tag to sarge?
yes!

Go to the debian site, it is all explained there!
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Re: configuration of nsswitch.conf ignored by system

[Thomas Hood]

On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 09:43, Matthias Eichler wrote:
> - I read that right that its not a nscd-bug or something
>   but a bug in the glibc which doesnt handle the nsswitch.conf
>   the correct way?


The Debian maintainers seem to regard it as a feature of glibc
rather than as a bug.


> - The bug was tagged "WONTFIX"...does this just mean that
>   nobody from the Deb-Crew will fix it because it relies
>   on other developers?


They regard it as a feature, so the behavior probably will
not be changed.


> - Where can I monitor this bug, where will I see when the
>   bug is fixed as this is really a pain in the ass on one
>   of our production systems.


It won't be fixed.  There is a workaround, though, involving the
addition of IPv6 lines to /etc/hosts.  Read through all the
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Noisy arpwatch

[Steinar Bang]

Platform: Intel Pentium M,
  debian sarge (testing/unstable),
  arpwatch 2.1a11-6.3

After my last "apt-get dist-upgrade", arpwatch has gotten very noisy.
It keeps sending me emails about every matchine it sees on the LAN.
At first it was kind of interesting.  Right now, I would rather switch
it off.

First I looked at the /etc/arpwatch.conf file, which has the following
lines near the end:
# Uncomment this lines to have these interfaces monitored
# sending mails to the local root user
#eth0   -N -p -m root
#eth1   -N -p -m root

Both the -N and -p flags looked promisng.  -N is "don't report any
bogons", and -p is "disable promiscous operations".

So I uncommented the eth0 line above, and did
/etc/init.d/arpwatch restart

That just made it noisier, presumably becaus it was busy rebuilding an
eth0-specific database.

Can anyone assist me in makin arpwatch stop sending emails, short of
doing 
apt-get remove arpwatch
?

Thanx!


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Re: why not anaconda installer

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 12:22:09PM -0700, belahcene abdelkader wrote:
> I don't understand  yet why debian doesn't  use the
> anaconda as 
> installer. It is very easy  for installation !
> I just tried the new version sarge, it is still
> complicate for new user 
> !!!
>  is there any reason ? or is there a new installer in
> project
> 
> best regards
> bela
> 
Hi Bela,
the found of debian, ian murdock, in his new company progeny, is working
on this and I think he has created a new distro that uses it. check out
this site!
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Re: why not anaconda installer

[Brian Nelson]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:27:48PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> Brian Nelson wrote:
> 
> >>is there any reason ? or is there a new installer in
> >>project
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >In addition to the reasons listed in Ken's post, I don't think anaconda
> >integrates particularly well with Debian.  
> > 
> >
> 
> On the contrary, it's been done and I suspect the workforce was two 
> people of whom one was part time:-)

Duh, I know, I posted the link in the previous message.  I also talked
briefly with Jeff Licquia about the anaconda port at Debconf this year.

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Re: System & Hardware clocks

[Johann Spies]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:50:28PM +0200, Lourens Steenkamp wrote:
> Lourens replying to P V Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Try chrony.
> 
> "It consists of a pair of programs :
>  `chronyd'.  This is a daemon which runs in background on the system. 
> It obtains measurements (e.g. via the network) of the system's offset
> relative to other systems, and adjusts the system time accordingly.  For
> isolated systems, the user can periodically enter the correct time by
> hand(using `chronyc').  In either case, `chronyd' determines the rate at
> which the computer gains or loses time, and compensates for this. 
> Chronyd implements the NTP protocol and can act as either a client or a
> server.`chronyc'.  This is a command-line driven control and monitoring
> program. An administrator can use this to fine-tune various parameters
> within the daemon, add or delete servers etc whilst the daemon is
> running."

I have tried chrony and found it very difficult to understand the
documentation and to work with.  The standard installation from Debian
did not help at all to keep my computer's clock on time. 

It was more than a year ago but I remember trying to run chronyc
resulted in some problem with authentication even when I try to run it
as root and I could never figure out how to use it.

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Re: Debian and KDE33

[Brian Nelson]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:40:11AM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:
> John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Kevin Mark wrote:
> >
> >>'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of
> >> debian -- it is the only one with security updates.
> >>
> >
> > Sarge also has official security updates.
> 
> Where please? 
> 
> Because here it says: 
> 
> http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
> 
> Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not
> managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security
> updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security
> Team's FAQ.
> 
> So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? 

I suppose:

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

but it's not really in use right now.  Packages that are currently
frozen would probably get security updates either through there or
testing-proposed-updates, but I wouldn't put faith in that until sarge
is officially released.

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Re: Noisy arpwatch

[Jacob S.]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:55:59 +0200
Steinar Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Platform: Intel Pentium M,
>   debian sarge (testing/unstable),
>   arpwatch 2.1a11-6.3
> 
> After my last "apt-get dist-upgrade", arpwatch has gotten very noisy.
> It keeps sending me emails about every matchine it sees on the LAN.
> At first it was kind of interesting.  Right now, I would rather switch
> it off.
> 
> First I looked at the /etc/arpwatch.conf file, which has the following
> lines near the end:
>   # Uncomment this lines to have these interfaces monitored
>   # sending mails to the local root user
>   #eth0   -N -p -m root
>   #eth1   -N -p -m root
> 
> Both the -N and -p flags looked promisng.  -N is "don't report any
> bogons", and -p is "disable promiscous operations".
> 
> So I uncommented the eth0 line above, and did
>   /etc/init.d/arpwatch restart
> 
> That just made it noisier, presumably becaus it was busy rebuilding an
> eth0-specific database.
> 
> Can anyone assist me in makin arpwatch stop sending emails, short of
> doing 
>   apt-get remove arpwatch
> ?

Previously I have used/created an option in the /etc/init.d startup
script for programs that I didn't want to start at bootup time, then I
can just run them as I want to. As an example, look at the way apache2
isn't started at boot time until you change NO_START to 0 instead of 1
in /etc/default/apache2 (which is checked by /etc/init.d/apache2).

HTH,
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Re: Debian and KDE33

[John Summerfield]

Josef Oswald wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Kevin Mark wrote:
   

'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of
debian -- it is the only one with security updates.
 

Sarge also has official security updates.
   

Where please? 

Because here it says: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not
managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security
updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security
Team's FAQ.
So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? 

Thanks :-) 
 

Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable.
vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list

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minicom+setserial

[Vijaya S]

hi all,
i inserted a two PCI serial port card into a debian machine
i used dpkg-reconfigure setserial and chose autoserial
when i check
#setserial  -g /dev/ttyS?

i set tthe ttyS2&ttyS3 manually as
setserial /dev/ttyS3 uart 16550A port 0x02e8 irq 3
setserial /dev/ttyS2 uart 16550A port 0x03e8 irq 4

#setserial -g /dev/ttyS?
/dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02f8, IRQ: 3
/dev/ttyS2, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
/dev/ttyS3, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3


but when i type minicom -s and try to open nothing happens i \dont ge
thte prompt of the device i have connected

how do i get it going?

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Re: Debian and KDE33

[John Summerfield]

Josef Oswald wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Kevin Mark wrote:
   

'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of
debian -- it is the only one with security updates.
 

Sarge also has official security updates.
   

Where please? 

Because here it says: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not
managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security
updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security
Team's FAQ.
So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? 

Thanks :-) 
 

Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable.
vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list

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Re: attempt to access beyond end of device

[John Summerfield]

steve downes wrote:
etc
Ran fsck maually & it found thousands of inode faults on the back end
of the disk. It now reboots & the fault has cleared but so has a lot
of software. Looks like a re-install. Fortunately it's a data free
machine except for a server backup.
Thanks for your help
 

I'd give it a damnd good memory test first. Last time _I_ had lots of 
errors, replacing everything round the disk drive cured the problem:-)

   

Yes, I was wondering what to do like that. Any recommends? 

The same hard disc is dual booting win98 quite happily.
Steve
 

There's memtest86 which very quickly persuaded me to  some ECC 
sdram. I was wondering why testing was to, well, testing.
Smartmontools would be a Good Thing. Tells you how good the disk is.

I don't think W98 means much:-) I used to have a computer that run 
Windows 95 very nicely and was sick all over the place with OS/2. the 
difference? OS/2 is mostly 32-bit, W95 is largely 16-bit. The 32-bit 
code is more demanding of RAM and such.

If it's the boss's money, suggest it really isn't work spending much on 
checking it out - how old is it? - and maybe an investment in something 
known good is good:-)


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Re: Apache2 binary mod_perl for Woody?

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 08:16:55AM -0700, Gururajan Ramachandran wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Where can I download binary mod_perl for Apache2 built for Woody? I 
> checked backports.org but came up empty. What is apt-get's sources.list
> sequence to download this module? I downloaded Apache2 from backports.org
> but the mod_perl module was not automatically downloaded.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Guru
Hi Guru,

 apt-cache search 'mod_perl' apache2
 libapache2-mod-perl2 - Integration of perl with the Apache2 web server

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Re: Mouse works with X but breaks as a left-handed... [SOLVED]

[Paul Gear]

Kent West wrote:
> ...
> gpm is the console mouse driver (for using your mouse outside of X). I
> _think_ kernel 2.6 may have moved the mouse input device to
> /dev/input/mice, which is smart enough to share the device between
> multiple mice/mice-driven apps. But before that, if you had gpm and X
> both installed, the two drivers would fight over the incoming mouse data
> ("mine mine, mine"), so you had to specifically set up gpm to be the
> reader of /dev/psaux (or whatever device your mouse was on), then to
> repeat it to a special device named /dev/gpmdata, and then configure X
> to read from that device rather than the actual device. In this way,
> both the console mouse driver and the X mouse driver could play nice
> together.

Thanks for the suggestions, Kent.  I've solved the problem, although i'm
not sure which step did it.  I did 3 things:

- Reinstalled sarge (and finally got RAID 1 on root/boot working! Yay!)

- Changed the gpm configuration to left-handed (by setting append="-B
321" in /etc/gpm.conf).

- Configured X to use /dev/input/mice instead of /dev/psaux.

I'm guessing the last of these is the most likely cause, but i don't
know.  Any comments?
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Re: Debian and KDE33

[John Summerfield]

Josef Oswald wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

Kevin Mark wrote:
   

'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of
debian -- it is the only one with security updates.
 

Sarge also has official security updates.
   

Where please? 

Because here it says: 

http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/
Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not
managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security
updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security
Team's FAQ.
So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? 

Thanks :-) 
 

Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable.
vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list

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Re: Debian and KDE33

[John Summerfield]

I suppose:
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free
but it's not really in use right now.  Packages that are currently
frozen would probably get security updates either through there or
testing-proposed-updates, but I wouldn't put faith in that until sarge
is officially released.
 

I've been getting packages files: I've not instpected them, but they 
seem bigger than empty. Downloading them takes an appreciable period.

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removed /media/cdrom0

[Lukáš Lalinský]

hi,
i have this problem using debian sarge: every time i boot i found 
broken links /cdrom and /media/cdrom, because of 
removed /media/cdrom0. if i create it manually, after reboot it is 
removed again. why??

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Re: Apt-get error with package diff

[Joris Huizer]

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Well, maybe you could copy the error in your email? Provide information 
about your system (is it woody/stable sarge/nearly-stable ??) and such ?

Joris
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Orderly dismount at shutdown?

[David Baron]

Now that I have my multi-partition file system up and running: One of the 
partitions (mounted /usr/share) does not dismount in an orderly manner on 
shutdown. I get messages like:
 Illegal seek 
...hdb6 not mounted ...

File system is OK on restart. (The first time, I needed ext3 journal recovery 
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EsounD by alsa

[Jouke Witteveen]

Hello Free World!I am quite new to all of the Linux stuff but 
learning fast, so don't be scaredto respond in way's I 'might not 
understand', I'll figure it out ;-).I have recently made my own Debian 
Kernel (now running nice 'n smooth...) anddecided to go with ALSA - I used 
the original 2.2.20_compact kernel which was onthe installation diskette 
(nope, I have no CD-burning equipement) and thatdidn't include sound 
support, so I made this kernel. But now there are still nosystem-sounds! If 
I use one of my other 2.4.19 kernels (I have made 23 in twomonths before I 
was satisfied) with no ALSA but with the old standard soundsupport 
(deprecated since 2.6.6 but not yet available in 'debianized' version)it 
does work! I can play my music though through ALSA with the nice 
Alsaplayer(using the alsa-module).I figured that Gnome wants EsounD as 
it's sound system so I installedlibesd-alsa0 and tern on the sound-server in 
the configuration of Gnome to be able
to hear 'them silly system-sounds'... but they don't do what they should! 
(yet)When I fire up the sound-monitor applet it says esd is inactive so I 
take myterminal and go "ESD", resulting in loads of variants 
of:  Couldn't open any alsa card! Last card tried was 0  
Error openin card 0: Sound protocol is not compatible  Audio device 
open for 44.1KHz, stereo, 16bit failed  Trying 44.1KHz, 8bit 
stereo.and finally:  Couldn't open any alsa card! Last card 
tried was 0  Error openin card 0: Sound protocol is not 
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guess there is some heavy mis-comunication going on between alsa and 
esd...The easiest solution I can think of is just to forget ESD and set 
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Re: alternative to cdrecord?

[Wim De Smet]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 15:31:31 +0800, John Summerfield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brian Pack wrote:
> 
> >With the old
> >kernel, a user could potentially wipe a drives firmware.
> >
> >
> >
> which actually happend with a release of Mandrake Linux and some brand I
> won't name coz I don't recall its name of CD-ROM.
> 
> The manufactorer misused one of the standard SCSI commands:-)
> 

It was LG. The model was an IDE cdrom drive that wasn't supposed to
implement the command in question. I think it was the flush command
which is apparently only used by cd-r(w) drives. The drive implemented
this as "flush firmware".

pretty funny story if you think of it. :-)

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Re: domain name of debian

[Thomas Hood]

Shu Hung (Koala) asked the simple question:
> where does the domain name of a debain stored?
> is there anyway to change it?

The "domain name" of the local host is the part of its fully qualified
domain name (FQDN) that follows the first dot.

The FQDN of the local host is its canonical host name (if the latter
is a FQDN).

The canonical host name of the local host is determined by the
resolver.  In the simplest configuration, where the resolver relies
on /etc/hosts, the canonical hostname is the first name on the line
that contains the unqualified hostname as an alias.  E.g., suppose the
hostname is 'foo'.  There is a line in /etc/hosts:

12.13.14.15foo.bar.com   foo

The resolver returns 'foo.bar.com' as the canonical hostname of foo.
Then the "domain name" of foo is 'bar.com'.

To display the canonical hostname of the local host, do:

hostname --fqdn

To display only the "domain name" part of this you can do:

dnsdomainname


Rus Foster answered:
> Try edit /etc/domainname or /etc/hostname

So far as I know there is no such file as /etc/domainname in Debian.

John Summerfield wrote:
> dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf

That is true in a sense.  The configuration of the resolver affects
the way it looks up names and thus can affect what it returns as a
canonical hostname.

He continued:
> NIS domain name may be in ...

We are talking about the DNS domain name, not the NIS domain name,
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Linux with projectors

[Vijaya S]

hi ,
can anyone guide me how to setup a linux machine when connected to
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Re: IP accounting software

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2004-08-24 11:53:11, schrieb Ritesh Raj Sarraf:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> It just seems to be a reporting tool.
> What I was wanting was to control connectivity to a user on the basis of
> bandwidth. I am wanting to sell services to my customer in terms of
> bandwidth, say 500mb/month.
> Is there a utility available or do I need to do some scripting ?

I do it with ipac-ng and set iptables to block clients which 
exceed the limit and send a messages to his/her account.

Note:   I block the his/her IP only on the external interface 
(Backbone) that he can read the Messages which are on 
the Mail-Server. 


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Re: Technical differences

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:46:04PM +1200, Joshua Lowe wrote:
> Hey there,
> 
> Im currently studying the UNIX and LINUX Operating systems at Uni. Ive been given an 
> assignment and my mission is to find out technical / operational differences between 
> UNIX as an operating system and Linux. Such differences Ive found are kernels, File 
> systems. Can you help any with this soft of info?
> 
> cheers
> 
> Josh
> 
Hi Josh,
first there was unix created about 1960. it great but proprietary. In
the 1980's Richard Stallman liked unix but wanted to fix his printer.
This caused him to create the GNU project. It's goal was to make a 
free (libre) version of unix. in the 1990's Linus Torvalds took Richards
work and added his kernel and thus Gnu/Linux was born. They are both
similar as they are based on POSIX. Richard wanted an all free (libre)
version of Gnu/Linux and ian murdock started debian. Debian is now 11
years old!
This is only a basic history. See: http://www.gnu.org and
http://www.debian.org
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ncurses with sarge

[Stef VK5HSX]

Howdy..  I recently installed sarge (Testing) Debian installation, where I 
have been setting things up as required. I am trying to compile a 
applications, where with ./configure I get an error that it requires ncurses.
I tried "apt-get install ncurses" and was told it was obsolete and not used 
anymore. Is there a way around this or will I require ncurses source 
compilation and install.?  Many thanks..
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Re: Technical differences

[John Summerfield]

Kevin Mark wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 03:46:04PM +1200, Joshua Lowe wrote:
 

Hey there,
Im currently studying the UNIX and LINUX Operating systems at Uni. Ive been given an 
assignment and my mission is to find out technical / operational differences between 
UNIX as an operating system and Linux. Such differences Ive found are kernels, File 
systems. Can you help any with this soft of info?
cheers
Josh
   

Hi Josh,
first there was unix created about 1960. 

It was a little later than that:
http://www.google.com/search?q=history%20of%20unix&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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Re: alternative to cdrecord?

[John Summerfield]

Wim De Smet wrote:
It was LG. The model was an IDE cdrom drive that wasn't supposed to
implement the command in question. I think it was the flush command
which is apparently only used by cd-r(w) drives. The drive implemented
this as "flush firmware".
pretty funny story if you think of it. :-)
 

Not if you had one:-)
Certain Billions have a similar problem. I think the command is "system 
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Re: Scrolling in console

[Curt]

On 2004-08-23, Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am wondering if there is a way to scroll to the
> right in a console?  When I open mutt I cannot read
> the entire subject header on the email - it trails
> off the screen.  Is there a way to recapture the
> rest of this subject line?  I have also had this
> problem in slrn as well.

Those subjects are much too long, then.  Anything that falls off the edge of 
the screen deserves to remain fallen.

The right arrow on my keyboard works for me, however, whenever my curiosity 
is stronger than my convictions.


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Re: ncurses with sarge

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:11:07PM +0930, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> Howdy..  I recently installed sarge (Testing) Debian installation, where I 
> have been setting things up as required. I am trying to compile a 
> applications, where with ./configure I get an error that it requires ncurses.
> I tried "apt-get install ncurses" and was told it was obsolete and not used 
> anymore. Is there a way around this or will I require ncurses source 
> compilation and install.?  Many thanks..
> -- 
> Regards - Stef VK5HSX
> 
> -= Support Open Source Software =-
Hi Stef,
if you are doing ./configure, I assume you are compiling software. In
this case you need a -dev packages.
libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses
This should be it! Of course, I suggest seeing if is in debian or if it
is in .rpm and can be converted to debian use.
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Re: Motherboard recommendation?

[Paul Gear]

Michael Rumpf wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm about to buy a new motherboard. Can anyone recommend a board that is
> known to work well with free software drivers. I just don't want to buy
> another board and find myself disabling most of the features as they
> don't work under Linux.

I don't have a recommendation, but i can disrecommend the NVIDIA nForce2
chipset from a free software perspective.  The NIC has a closed source
driver.  When i emailed them about it, the response was, "Our networking
performance is too important to allow competitors to use our drivers."
I disabled the on-board NIC and bought a $20 RTL-8139.  :-)

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Re: OT: Which tool, and how, to get partial string from file?i

[Paul Gear]

Wendell Cochran wrote:
> ...
> Then I ran across Stan Kelly-Bootle's _Understanding UNIX_ (2e 1994
> Sybex) & instantly felt right at home with his way of putting
> things.  His book pried the first brick out of the Unix sidewalk;
> then Unix seemed easy, or at least logical. 

What a great writer Stan K-B is.  I used to love his back page in Unix
Review.  It was like a mix of linguistics, theology, and computing all
wrapped into one!  :-)

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Re: Kernel compilation question

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:21:59AM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote:
> Howcome? (Is it related to '.config support' being compiled into the
> standard Debian kernels?)
> How do prevent it from happening? (I unmounted /boot, but that that's
> less than elegant.)

You copy whatever config you want to /path/to/kernel/src/.config, and 'make
oldconfig'.

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Re: removed /media/cdrom0

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:26:37AM +0200, Luk?? Lalinsk? wrote:
> hi,
> i have this problem using debian sarge: every time i boot i found 
> broken links /cdrom and /media/cdrom, because of 
> removed /media/cdrom0. if i create it manually, after reboot it is 
> removed again. why??

remove the 'discover' package.

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Re: ncurses with sarge

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On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:11:07PM +0930, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> Howdy..  I recently installed sarge (Testing) Debian installation, where I 
> have been setting things up as required. I am trying to compile a 
> applications, where with ./configure I get an error that it requires ncurses.
> I tried "apt-get install ncurses" and was told it was obsolete and not used 
> anymore. Is there a way around this or will I require ncurses source 
> compilation and install.?  Many thanks..

If you're compiling you want '-dev' packages, in your case, specifically
'libncurses5-dev'.

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Re: Software RAID using Sarge Installer

[Paul Gear]

John Fleming wrote:
> Would someone help me, preferably off-list if the question's too simple,
> know exactly what choices to make using the new Sarge installer and RAID 1
> for mirroring?  During the partitioning, there is a chance to set up RAID 1,
> but I don't fully understand exactly what partitions are required.  I just
> want a simple scheme with a root partition and a swap partition, plus
> whatever else is necessary for RAID 1.
> 
> I have 2 identical HDDs.  I know you need at least one (2?) partitions setup
> specificlaly for RAID.  I could use some newbie help with this, and comments
> like RTFM or RTFA won't help.  I'm begging for some hand-holding here!  It
> seems that you need to setup / and swap, and -then- RAID partition(s)...?  I
> can't seem to get it right.

The last time i tried, the installer didn't support installing to RAID /
or /boot, and this was a topic of some discussion on this list, since
some people think that the new installer is perfect and to think that
other people want it to support more features is just shocking! :-)

I used the HOWTO at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ to
convert my system to RAID 1 after the install, and it worked well.  I
chose the 2nd path, which was GRUB & initrd (lilo didn't work for me for
some reason).

Short summary:
hde (200 Gb)
hde11 Gb
hde54 Gb
hde6rest of disk (195 Gb)
hdg exactly as hde
All partitions are type 0xFD (Linux RAID autodetect)
md0 = hde1 + hdg1 (/boot, ext3)
md1 = hde5 + hdg5 (swap)
md2 = hde6 + hdg6 (/, reiserfs)

My configuration looks as follows - if you can't work out the following
outputs, let me know and i'll explain further.


enoch:/root # df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md2 190468740  54604380 135864360  29% /
tmpfs   258716 0258716   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 76920416  68312432   4700576  94% /spare
/dev/md0964408 31776883640   4% /boot


enoch:/root # swapon -s
FilenameTypeSizeUsed
Priority
/dev/md1partition   3903672 1008-1


enoch:/root # cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md0 : active raid1 hde1[0] hdg1[1]
  979840 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md1 : active raid1 hde5[0] hdg5[1]
  3903680 blocks [2/2] [UU]

md2 : active raid1 hde6[0] hdg6[1]
  190474560 blocks [2/2] [UU]

unused devices: 


enoch:/root # fdisk -l /dev/hde

Disk /dev/hde: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hde1   *   1 122  979933+  fd  Linux raid
autodetect
/dev/hde2 123   24321   194378467+   5  Extended
/dev/hde5 123 608 3903763+  fd  Linux raid
autodetect
/dev/hde6 609   24321   190474641   fd  Linux raid
autodetect


enoch:/root # fdisk -l /dev/hdg

Disk /dev/hdg: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdg1   *   1 122  979933+  fd  Linux raid
autodetect
/dev/hdg2 123   24321   194378467+   5  Extended
/dev/hdg5 123 608 3903763+  fd  Linux raid
autodetect
/dev/hdg6 609   24321   190474641   fd  Linux raid
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apt-get and distro aliases

[John Fleming]

Reading recent threads, I plan to install Sarge and change apt sources to
name-based, i.e. to "Sarge" rather than "testing".  My understanding is that
when Sarge becomes "stable", I will stay with Sarge and be able to get
security updates.

I am now running unstable.  I just tried an update using "unstable" and
there was nothing new available.  Then I changed sources.list to "sid" and
it retrieved 3217 kB.  However, when I ran upgrade, nothing was upgraded.
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dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Paul Gear]

Hi folks,

What is the canonical method for determining to which package an
installed file belongs?  dpkg -S seems to be the right *sort* of thing,
but doesn't always work:

enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list
dpkg: /etc/apt/sources.list not found.
enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/gpm.conf
dpkg: /etc/gpm.conf not found.

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Re: Linux with projectors

[Anthony Campbell]

On 24 Aug 2004, Vijaya S wrote:
> hi ,
> can anyone guide me how to setup a linux machine when connected to
> projectors?
> 

As far as I know this is not a Linux issue. I use my laptop regularly
with projectors (my own and other people's). I just plug the lead into
the external monitor socket and away it goes.

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building or obtaining debian non-free CDs ?

[B Thomas]

Hi,
I was trying to find a US vendor for debian non-free CDs . Looks like
there were only 2, cheapbytes.com and linux-cd.com. However neither have
non-free woody CDs listed on their web page.

I am unable to get debian-cd to work or find jigdo files for the
non-free cd images. 

Could you please help/advice ?

sincerely
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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:44:33PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> What is the canonical method for determining to which package an
> installed file belongs?  dpkg -S seems to be the right *sort* of thing,
> but doesn't always work:
> 
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
> debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list
> dpkg: /etc/apt/sources.list not found.
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/gpm.conf
> dpkg: /etc/gpm.conf not found.

It's doing *exactly* what you asked of it. Remember that dpkg -S will only
work for files that were *in* a package initially and not ones that were
*created*. /etc/apt/sources.list is created by apt-setup from 'base-config',
but does not reside in any package.

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Re: apt-get and distro aliases

[Paul Gear]

John Fleming wrote:
> Reading recent threads, I plan to install Sarge and change apt sources to
> name-based, i.e. to "Sarge" rather than "testing".  My understanding is that
> when Sarge becomes "stable", I will stay with Sarge and be able to get
> security updates.
> 
> I am now running unstable.  I just tried an update using "unstable" and
> there was nothing new available.  Then I changed sources.list to "sid" and
> it retrieved 3217 kB.  However, when I ran upgrade, nothing was upgraded.
> Can anyone explain this behavior?  Thanks - John

I can't explain it, but after reading the same threads, i changed my
machine from "testing" to "sarge" (planning to run it on stable when
sarge becomes so), and i got similar behaviour.  I installed them anyway
(using apt-get dist-upgrade), and things haven't broken yet, but it has
got me curious.

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Re: attempt to access beyond end of device

[steve downes]

> >>
> >
> >Yes, I was wondering what to do like that. Any recommends? 
> >
> >The same hard disc is dual booting win98 quite happily.
> >
> >Steve
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> 
> There's memtest86 which very quickly persuaded me to  some ECC 
> sdram. I was wondering why testing was to, well, testing.
> Smartmontools would be a Good Thing. Tells you how good the disk is.
> 
> I don't think W98 means much:-) I used to have a computer that run 
> Windows 95 very nicely and was sick all over the place with OS/2. the 
> difference? OS/2 is mostly 32-bit, W95 is largely 16-bit. The 32-bit 
> code is more demanding of RAM and such.
> 
> If it's the boss's money, suggest it really isn't work spending much on 
> checking it out - how old is it? - and maybe an investment in something 
> known good is good:-)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Cheers
> John
> 

John,

Memtest is on it's 2nd clean pass & I have downloaded Smartmontools to
follow it in.

It is quite an old machine but I am the boss & resent your
freespending attitude to my money :-^)

Very many thanks fr your help which looks like it wwill be useful for
some time to come.

Steve


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Re: Debian Install

[Michael Satterwhite]

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On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> Greetings..
>
>   For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well I
> recently downloaded the new Debian Installer (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso)
> and used it today to install a new system. I have tried numerous times
> unsuccessfully to install a system (with working GUI) prior to this time.
> My install  today went without a hitch and the operations of the installer
> were much improved than past ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which
> installed kde3.2 and various other up-to-date packages, very easily..

I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to do 
that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.
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Re: apt-get and distro aliases

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

John Fleming (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Reading recent threads, I plan to install Sarge and change apt sources
> to name-based, i.e. to "Sarge" rather than "testing".  My 
> understanding is that when Sarge becomes "stable", I will stay with 
> Sarge and be able to get security updates.  

Correct.

> I am now running unstable.  I just tried an update using "unstable"
> and there was nothing new available.  Then I changed sources.list to 
> "sid" and it retrieved 3217 kB.  However, when I ran upgrade, nothing 
> was upgraded. Can anyone explain this behavior?  Thanks - John  

Apt downloaded the package list. Because you changed the source name
from unstable to sid, apt assumed this had to be done because the local
list for the "new" source was missing.

best regards
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Zend Optimizer for Debian

[Mirko Scurk]

Are there any packages for Debian?

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Re: Login Shell/Profile: Stop the Madness

[Thomas Adam]

On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 04:35:21PM -0400, Daniel B. wrote:
  
> However, even ignoring that wider definition of shell with which
> you might not agree, traditional shells are still involved when
> you log in via a display manager.  If you open xterm windows,
> they're running traditional shell subprocesses, with environment
> variables inherited from somewhere.

I've followed this thread with *great* amusement. Some of the ideas have been
hilarious. The X startup files are _not_ supposed to source anything shell
related. Why? Well, it is not supposed to. It has no reason to. It's to do
with shells only.

If you invoke X via 'startx' your ~/.bash{profile,rc} files are read anyway,
and if you login via a DM, then you can either source your login files from
~/.xsession, or set environment variables there.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Paul Gear (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> What is the canonical method for determining to which package an
> installed file belongs?  dpkg -S seems to be the right *sort* of
> thing, but doesn't always work:
> 
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
> debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list
> dpkg: /etc/apt/sources.list not found.
> enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/gpm.conf
> dpkg: /etc/gpm.conf not found.

Sometimes files are not part of the packages, but are created after
installation. Take a look at /var/lib/dkpg/info/apt.list
and /var/lib/dpkg/info/apt.postinst. I don't know if there is an eays
way to find these files, apart from grepping /var/lib/dpkg/info.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Paul Gear]

Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:44:33PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
> 
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>What is the canonical method for determining to which package an
>>installed file belongs?  dpkg -S seems to be the right *sort* of thing,
>>but doesn't always work:
>>
>>enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
>>debconf: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf
>>enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/apt/sources.list
>>dpkg: /etc/apt/sources.list not found.
>>enoch:/share/download # dpkg -S /etc/gpm.conf
>>dpkg: /etc/gpm.conf not found.
> 
> 
> It's doing *exactly* what you asked of it. Remember that dpkg -S will only
> work for files that were *in* a package initially and not ones that were
> *created*. /etc/apt/sources.list is created by apt-setup from 'base-config',
> but does not reside in any package.

Is it fairly common, then, that packages only create their config files,
and don't include them in the package originally.  I can see times when
that would lead to confusion.  Is there another way to find out where a
file belongs?

(I am resigned to the rest of this message being flame bait, even though
it's not intended that way.)

RPM's method of including the config file in the package even if it's
empty or only comments seems to me a better solution - that way the
config file can always be traced back to its relevant package.

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure

[Thomas Adam]

Sometime ago, you wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How do I find the list of packages reconfigurable with dpkg-reconfigure?
>
> Craig Jackson

The 'configure-debian' package is probably what you're after.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Jason Rennie]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:11:33PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> It's doing *exactly* what you asked of it. Remember that dpkg -S will only
> work for files that were *in* a package initially and not ones that were
> *created*. /etc/apt/sources.list is created by apt-setup from 'base-config',
> but does not reside in any package.

Geez.  Try answering the question, not insulting the guy.  The dpkg
man page is unclear on what -S does:

  dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
  Search for a filename from installed packages.

So, is there a dpkg option that allows one to determine from which
package a file came?  Or, is there some other program that can provide
this information?

Jason


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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 10:28:09PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
 
> Is it fairly common, then, that packages only create their config files,
> and don't include them in the package originally.  I can see times when

Of course it is. There are *hundreds* of files that are created in this
manner, usually brought about because they're created by the very programs in
other packages, and so there is no way of ever supplying the files in the
first place.

> that would lead to confusion.  Is there another way to find out where a
> file belongs?

No, since any answer would be completely erroneous.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:
> Geez.  Try answering the question, not insulting the guy.  The dpkg
> man page is unclear on what -S does:

I wasn't insulting anybody. The *words* were there, only to place emphasis on
the fundamental differences in operation.

>   dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
>   Search for a filename from installed packages.

How is this unclear, exactly?

> So, is there a dpkg option that allows one to determine from which
> package a file came?  Or, is there some other program that can provide
> this information?

dpkg -S is only ever useful if you want to check to see whether a file comes
from a package installed on your system. As I have said, if the file was
created by an application, then it clearly cannot belong to a package. No
information is retained to the creating program, other than *possibly*
debconf's database.

If you want to search for files in packages that you do not have installed,
then apt-file is your friend.

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Exiting every KDE program shows the crash handler

[Piers Kittel]

Hi all,
Reinstalled Debian last Friday, and upgraded to testing, and installed
KDE, and it worked fine until today, every time I exit any KDE
application, I get the KDE crash handler, for example if I load up the
calculator, and I exit it, I get:
The application unknown (kcalc) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV)
This even occurs when I stop the screensaver.  It doesn't affect
anything, but it's annoying having to click on "OK" every time I see the
crash handler dialog box.  I've tried to get a backtrace but I always
get this:
This backtrace appears to be useless.
This is probably because your packages are built in a way which prevents
creating of proper backtraces, or the stack frame was seriously
corrupted in the crash.
What have I done wrong and how do I fix this?
Thanks very much for your help in advance
Cheers - Piers
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/dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted

[Johann Spies]

When I do a su - sysadm on one server with Woody I get the error
message in the subject line. That happens only when su to sysadm is
being used.

Apart from the error message everything seems work normally:

14:40:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/exim4$ sudo su - sysadm
/dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted
14:40:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
14:40:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exit
logout
14:41:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log/exim4$

What is causing this?

Regards

Johann
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  should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting 
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Re: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 02:43:19PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> When I do a su - sysadm on one server with Woody I get the error
> message in the subject line. That happens only when su to sysadm is
> being used.

Hmm, try adding the user to the 'tty' group.

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Re: Combining images?

[Andreas Ehn]

On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 12:59:04PM +, Adam Funk wrote:

> I was certainly glad to discover ImageMagick after I started using a
> digital camera: the command line is the easiest way to rotate 30
> JPGs 90 degrees to the left!

You might want to check out jpegtran, which can apply lossless
transformations (resizing and rotation) to JPEG images within some
limits. Most tools uncompress, transform and (lossily) recompress the
image, resulting in loss of information each time.

Cheers,
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Well documented [was Re: nvidia drivers]

[Guest, Simon]

On Tuesday 24 Aug 2004 00:17, Tom Allison wrote:

> I was able to install by doing:
> apt-get kernel-headers...
> and then running the NVIDIA package they provide on their website.
>
> I don't know, but the kernel-source may be necessary, but I doubt it.  I
> have it installed, that's why I mention it.

It's all well documented what you have to do.  Once you realise that the best 
documentation for knowing how to use packages in Debian is often to be found 
in /usr/share/doc/, everything becomes straightforward.  
(Thanks to those fine chaps, the Debian developers, for their excellent 
READMEs.)

Install these Debian packages :-
nvidia-glx  - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
nvidia-kernel-common- NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
nvidia-kernel-source- NVIDIA binary kernel module source

Then carefully follow the instructions 
in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian

cheers,
Simon

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Re: building or obtaining debian non-free CDs ?

[Alvin Oga]

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004, B Thomas wrote:

> Hi,
> I was trying to find a US vendor for debian non-free CDs . Looks like
> there were only 2, cheapbytes.com and linux-cd.com. However neither have
> non-free woody CDs listed on their web page.
> 
> I am unable to get debian-cd to work or find jigdo files for the
> non-free cd images. 

if i understand it correctly, jigdo is nice if it allows one to d/l
only the new changed files on the cdrom (i have yet to play and test it )

> Could you please help/advice ?

why not just d/l the entire cdrom collection onto the new debian.osu.edu
connection and burn your own cd's ?

patch with updates files as needed 

- so goes our plan too ... but now how to update each cd w/ new updated
  packages  and than rebuild the new iso

c ya
alvin


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Re: Zend Optimizer for Debian

[robin]

Mirko Scurk wrote:
Are there any packages for Debian?
 

caudium-php4 ?
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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[John Hasler]

Thomas Adam writes:
> As I have said, if the file was created by an application, then it
> clearly cannot belong to a package.

The question was about files created by the maintainer scripts.

Just off the top of my head I see no reason why these files could not be
included in the package empty and filled in by the scripts.  This would
identify the files as belonging to the package and also allow dpkg to
remove them, eliminating the need for the postrm to do so.
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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:54:41PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:

> >   dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
> >   Search for a filename from installed packages.
> 
> How is this unclear, exactly?

It doesn't say, "Search for a filename THAT IS CONTAINED WITHIN an
installed package."  Why wouldn't the above include
programmatically-generated configuration files?  They're "from" the
package.
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Re: Debian Install

[Stef VK5HSX]

On Tuesday 24 August 2004 21:51, Michael Satterwhite shared with us the 
following:
> On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > Greetings..
> >
> > For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well I
> > recently downloaded the new Debian Installer
> > (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) and used it today to install a new system.
> > I have tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install a system (with
> > working GUI) prior to this time. My install  today went without a hitch
> > and the operations of the installer were much improved than past ones.. I
> > installed a 'unstable' system, which installed kde3.2 and various other
> > up-to-date packages, very easily..
>
> I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to
> do that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.

WIth the installer, you get option of stable, testing and unstable.. Then 
select the one you want..
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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:23:16AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Thomas Adam writes:
> > As I have said, if the file was created by an application, then it
> > clearly cannot belong to a package.
> 
> The question was about files created by the maintainer scripts.

Was it now? I don't believe so, although files created by "maintainer scripts"
is one aspect to the question. But the answer will still be the same. I'm not
sure how many times I have to re-iterate it, but: "If a file is created by an
application, then the file will not be part of any package, unless the file in
question was already part of the package."

> Just off the top of my head I see no reason why these files could not be
> included in the package empty and filled in by the scripts.  This would
> identify the files as belonging to the package and also allow dpkg to
> remove them, eliminating the need for the postrm to do so.

The overhead in doing this is stupid, and having a lot of empty files in /etc
is just pointless.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Thomas Adam]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:24:45AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:54:41PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:
> 
> > >   dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
> > >   Search for a filename from installed packages.
> > 
> > How is this unclear, exactly?
> 
> It doesn't say, "Search for a filename THAT IS CONTAINED WITHIN an
> installed package."  Why wouldn't the above include
> programmatically-generated configuration files?  They're "from" the
> package.

They're not "from" any package -- they're created by programs that are
themselves from packages. But how on Earth can you keep information as to
programs that created files? It's a stupid and pointless exercise. Please see
my other posts as to the explanations why.

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Re: ncurses with sarge

[Stef VK5HSX]

On Tuesday 24 August 2004 20:57, Thomas Adam shared with us the following:
> If you're compiling you want '-dev' packages, in your case, specifically
> 'libncurses5-dev'.
>
> -- Thomas Adam

Thanks for that .. I did apt-get install libncurses5-dev and it went and did 
what was required.. much appreciated for the hint..
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Re: /dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted

[Johann Spies]

Hello Thomas,

Thanks for your reply.

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 02:01:12PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 02:43:19PM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
> > When I do a su - sysadm on one server with Woody I get the error
> > message in the subject line. That happens only when su to sysadm is
> > being used.
> 
> Hmm, try adding the user to the 'tty' group.

15:24:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/archive$ sudo adduser sysadm tty
Adding user sysadm to group tty...
Done.
15:24:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/archive$ sudo su - sysadm
/dev/pts/0: Operation not permitted
15:24:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

I have also added js to tty, but it did not make a difference.

Regards
Johann
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Re: apt-get and distro aliases

[Paul Gear]

Andreas Janssen wrote:
> ...
> 
>>I am now running unstable.  I just tried an update using "unstable"
>>and there was nothing new available.  Then I changed sources.list to 
>>"sid" and it retrieved 3217 kB.  However, when I ran upgrade, nothing 
>>was upgraded. Can anyone explain this behavior?  Thanks - John  
> 
> 
> Apt downloaded the package list. Because you changed the source name
> from unstable to sid, apt assumed this had to be done because the local
> list for the "new" source was missing.

Sorry - i gave slightly misleading info in my post.  I actually ended up
with additional packages to upgrade, and i successfully upgraded them.
Perhaps it was just coincidental timing.

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How do I mount /dev/sdax at boot?

[Nicolaus Kedegren]

Hi Y'all,

I must have had a brainfart, but my SATA disk won't mount at boot. I
just upgraded to a 2.6.8 kernel (I cook my own), and as axpected my SATA
disk went from hde to sda, no surprises there. 
So I changed my entry in fstab from /dev/hde6 to /dev/sda6.
So, now it looks like this:

/dev/sda6/home ext2   defaults02

However, it does not mount at boot. However, going into a tty and
issuing the 'mount /home' command as root works just fine.

so my question is: What have I missed? I have done some googling, and
all I could find are references to /etc/fstab, and fstab looks OK to me. 
So my guess is have missed something *very* simple.

TIA

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Re^2: installation of 3c509 module from Woody diskette.

[petereasthope]

Ref. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Readers of debian-user,

At 2004-08-14 20:12:56 -0300 Stephen Cormier wrote,
"I would say get the bf2.4 floppy images. 
I have an older machine here with the same 
network card in it and the install went fine, 
besides you end up with a 2.4 kernel instead
of a 2.2."
 
Thanks.  Made that set of diskettes and tried 
them.  The SCSI drive is not recognized.
/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/
images-1.44/bf2.4/kernel-config has no comments explaining
the format but contains this line.

CONFIG_SCSI_AHA1542=m

Can anyone report the meaning of the "m"?  Appears that
support for the AHA1542 is absent.

These options remain.
1. Remove the AHA-1542 and forget about using 
SCSI.  Connect an ATA drive to the on-board controller
and try to install Woody there.
2. Replace the main board with a Pentium.
3. Try to install "testing".

Thanks,  Peter E.

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Re: Well documented [was Re: nvidia drivers]

[Paul Gear]

Guest, Simon wrote:
> ...
> It's all well documented what you have to do.  Once you realise that the best 
> documentation for knowing how to use packages in Debian is often to be found 
> in /usr/share/doc/, everything becomes straightforward.  
> (Thanks to those fine chaps, the Debian developers, for their excellent 
> READMEs.)
> 
> Install these Debian packages :-
> nvidia-glx  - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
> nvidia-kernel-common- NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
> nvidia-kernel-source  - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
> 
> Then carefully follow the instructions 
> in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-source/README.Debian
> 
> cheers,
> Simon
> 
> PS: If you do this, you don't need anything from the NVidia web site. 

Thanks for that - those instructions worked like a charm for me.

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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[Paul Gear]

Jason Rennie wrote:
> ...
> Geez.  Try answering the question, not insulting the guy.

Don't worry - i'm used to it on this list by now...  :-)

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How to suspend x86 via apm as non-root user?

[Ivo Marino]

Hello folks,

Each time I try to suspend my x86 `sid` workstation as a non-root user
via the command apm -s I receive this error message:

apm: Operation not permitted

Permissions on /dev/apm_bios are crw-rw-rw- (0666).

Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Maybe chmod +s /usr/bin/apm? Seems to be an eventual `workaround`.

Thanks for feedback,

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Re: apt-get and distro aliases

[John Summerfield]

Paul Gear wrote:
Apt downloaded the package list. Because you changed the source name
from unstable to sid, apt assumed this had to be done because the local
list for the "new" source was missing.
   

Sorry - i gave slightly misleading info in my post.  I actually ended up
with additional packages to upgrade, and i successfully upgraded them.
Perhaps it was just coincidental timing.
 

If your mirror is synchronising four times a day, the chances are quite 
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Re: apt-get and distro aliases

[Tim Kelley]

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 06:37:12AM -0500, John Fleming wrote:
> Reading recent threads, I plan to install Sarge and change apt sources to
> name-based, i.e. to "Sarge" rather than "testing".  My understanding is that
> when Sarge becomes "stable", I will stay with Sarge and be able to get
> security updates.
> 
> I am now running unstable.  I just tried an update using "unstable" and
> there was nothing new available.  Then I changed sources.list to "sid" and
> it retrieved 3217 kB.  However, when I ran upgrade, nothing was upgraded.
> Can anyone explain this behavior?  Thanks - John

Most likely there was an update between the times you checked.  "sid"
and "unstable" are identical.

You didn't get anything on "upgrade" most likely because you do not
have any of the packages that were upgraded installed on your machine.

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Problem ejecting cdrom after dist-upgrade

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Hi,

I have just done an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. Now the 'eject' fails to
eject the cdrom and gives the error:
eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
My drive is an ide cdrw and I am using the ide-scsi module.

In my /dev directory, 'cdrom' is a symbolic link to 'cdrom0' and
'cdrom0' is a symbolic link to 'scd0'.
'eject cdrom0' and 'eject scd0' work. Also if I create a link to scd0
with any name other than cdrom, the command works. I dunno why it
fails for 'cdrom'

This used to work well before the upgrade.

Thanks,
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Re: Debian Install

[Michael Satterwhite]

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On Tuesday 24 August 2004 08:27, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 August 2004 21:51, Michael Satterwhite shared with us the
>
> following:
> > On Monday 23 August 2004 06:47, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
> > > Greetings..
> > >
> > >   For those who have found installing Debian difficult in the past, well
> > > I recently downloaded the new Debian Installer
> > > (sarge-i366-businesscard.iso) and used it today to install a new
> > > system. I have tried numerous times unsuccessfully to install a system
> > > (with working GUI) prior to this time. My install  today went without a
> > > hitch and the operations of the installer were much improved than past
> > > ones.. I installed a 'unstable' system, which installed kde3.2 and
> > > various other up-to-date packages, very easily..
> >
> > I'm curious as to how you installed "unstable". I thought the only way to
> > do that was to install "testing" and do a dist-upgrade.
>
> WIth the installer, you get option of stable, testing and unstable.. Then
> select the one you want..

I think it's changed since you ran it (or since I did). I just installed Sarge 
on a laptop (last Friday, Debian Installer RC1). There were no options 
presented as to version of Debian.
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Re: dpkg / apt equivalent to 'rpm -qf'?

[John Summerfield]

Thomas Adam wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:24:45AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 01:54:41PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
   

On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0400, Jason Rennie wrote:
 

 dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
 Search for a filename from installed packages.
   

How is this unclear, exactly?
 

It doesn't say, "Search for a filename THAT IS CONTAINED WITHIN an
installed package."  Why wouldn't the above include
programmatically-generated configuration files?  They're "from" the
package.
   

They're not "from" any package -- they're created by programs that are
themselves from packages. But how on Earth can you keep information as to
programs that created files? It's a stupid and pointless exercise. Please see
my other posts as to the explanations why.
 


Seems to me the idea of creating configuration files on the fly is 
broken. I much prefer this:
# to list configuration files
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qc glibc-2.3.2-120
/etc/nscd.conf
/etc/rpc

#to find what owns a configuration file:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qf /etc/defaultdomain
netcfg-9.0-7
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
To find what documentation might pertain to the configuration file:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qdf /etc/defaultdomain
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
Bad example, there is none in that package.
This is better:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qf /usr/share/man/man8/rpcinfo.8.gz
glibc-2.3.2-120
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -qfd /usr/share/man/man8/rpcinfo.8.gz
/usr/share/doc/packages/glibc/LICENSES
/usr/share/man/man1/getconf.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/getent.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/glibcbug.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/iconv.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/ldd.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/locale.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/localedef.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man5/locale.alias.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man5/nscd.conf.5.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/ldconfig.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/nscd.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/nscd_nischeck.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/rpcinfo.8.gz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~>
The above is on SuSE.
In contrast, my Debian system has /etc/defaultdomain but no man page: 
SuSE's man page is in another package.

I would expect every file in /etc on the SuSE (or a Red Hat) system to 
be owned by a package, unless I created it.


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