PDF & cut-&-paste ???

[Michael D Schleif]

Which PDF readers allow blocking and cut-&-paste?

Also, which allow searching for text and phrases?

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Re: Redhat to Debian conversion

[Gruessle]

 
I did all that and it still is not working. 
 
So next what I did was install knoppix. 
 
To see if I did the config right. 
I don't know how to check the config in knoppix but at the startup 
I shaw some things. 
The nv video card driver is correct. 
 
Another advatage I have now with knoppis is that I can use webmail on this 
machine. So I have added my XFree86.0.log to the end of this file. 
 
Hope someone can help now. 
 
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Quoting Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
> Hello 
>  
> Gruessle (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: 
>  
> > I am new to Linux and for 2 1/2 days I been trying to install Debian. 
> > Well I have the very basics installed but that is really all I got. 
> >  
> > Now I have Redhat and that is easy to install. 
> > Somewhere I read that it is posible to convert a Redhat install to 
> > Debian. 
> >  
> > I am wondering if that is maybe easyer then installing Debian. 
>  
> No, you cannot "convert" a RedHat installation into a Debian 
> installation. Both systems work differently and for example do not use 
> the same system for software package installation. You can however use 
> parts of the Red Hat configuration with Debian. If you have Red Hat 
> installed, save the /etc directory, then format your linux partitions 
> and install Debian. Some files probably can be used diretly (like the 
> XFree configuration files), others may be helpful because they contain 
> useful information (like the driver modules you need to load for your 
> hardware, e.g. sound and network cards). 
>  
> As you are new to Linux, installing Debian can be quite hard, and you 
> should go to the Debian website and take a look at the documentation 
> there, especially the installation manual and the APT howto. Also, 
> during the installation, /read/ what the installation program tells 
> you. For example, you can install using Kernel 2.4.18, which you 
> probably want to do, but 2.2.20 is default. The installation program 
> can tell you how to use another Kernel. 
>  
> best regards 
> Andreas Janssen 
>  
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= XFree86.0.log = 
This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any 
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, 
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository 
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) 
 
XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System 
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) 
Release Date: 21 December 2001 
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is 
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before 
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) 
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-8um i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present 
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Mon Dec 15 22:05:43 2003 
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" 
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, 
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, 
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. 
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" 
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) 
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" 
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card" 
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" 
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" 
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" 
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104" 
(**) XKB: model: "pc104" 
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" 
(**) XKB: layout: "us" 
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled 
(**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" 
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse" 
(WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. 
Entry deleted from font path. 
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/
fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/
Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/
fonts/75dpi" 
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" 
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" 
(++) using VT number 7 
 
(WW) Cannot open APM 
(II) Module ABI versions: 
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 
(II) Loader running on linux 
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap" 
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a 
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" 
compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer 
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 
(II) Loading font Bitmap 
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata" 
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib

Re: Change password from shellscript

[James Williamson]

On Monday 15 Dec 2003 7:04 pm, Peter wrote:
> Howdie,
>
> I want to make a shellscript with the ability to change a
> userspassword. I can't get it to work properly because when i say
> passwd user i will have to enter the password is there a way or a
> switch todo this in a style like passwd user password

My version of passwd has a --stdin switch which'll read the 
password from STDIN, i.e.

echo $password | passwd --stdin $username

If your's doesn't you may want to take a look at expect.

James

>
> Thankz,
> Peter


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Re: Redhat to Debian conversion

[Gruessle]

 
I just found this file called XFree86config.new in  
file:/home/knoppix/Desktop/hdb2 
is that the knoppix XFree86 config file with the right data? 
 
If so whats wrong in the Debian config? 
 
 
Section "ServerLayout" 
Identifier "XFree86 Configured" 
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0 
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" 
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Files" 
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" 
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Module" 
Load  "dbe" 
Load  "dri" 
Load  "extmod" 
Load  "glx" 
Load  "pex5" 
Load  "record" 
Load  "xie" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "Keyboard0" 
Driver  "keyboard" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "Mouse0" 
Driver  "mouse" 
Option  "Protocol" "auto" 
Option  "Device" "/dev/mouse" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Monitor" 
Identifier   "Monitor0" 
VendorName   "Monitor Vendor" 
ModelName"Monitor Model" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Device" 
### Available Driver options are:- 
### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", 
### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" 
### [arg]: arg optional 
#Option "SWcursor"  # [] 
#Option "HWcursor"  # [] 
#Option "NoAccel"   # [] 
#Option "ShowCache" # [] 
#Option "ShadowFB"  # [] 
#Option "UseFBDev"  # [] 
#Option "Rotate"# [] 
#Option "VideoKey"  #  
#Option "FlatPanel" # [] 
Identifier  "Card0" 
Driver  "nv" 
VendorName  "NVidia" 
BoardName   "Riva Vanta" 
BusID   "PCI:1:5:0" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Screen" 
Identifier "Screen0" 
Device "Card0" 
Monitor"Monitor0" 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 1 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 4 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 8 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 15 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 16 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 24 
EndSubSection 
EndSection 
 
 
 
 
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Quoting Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
 
> Hello 
>  
> Gruessle (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: 
>  
> > I am new to Linux and for 2 1/2 days I been trying to install Debian. 
> > Well I have the very basics installed but that is really all I got. 
> >  
> > Now I have Redhat and that is easy to install. 
> > Somewhere I read that it is posible to convert a Redhat install to 
> > Debian. 
> >  
> > I am wondering if that is maybe easyer then installing Debian. 
>  
> No, you cannot "convert" a RedHat installation into a Debian 
> installation. Both systems work differently and for example do not use 
> the same system for software package installation. You can however use 
> parts of the Red Hat configuration with Debian. If you have Red Hat 
> installed, save the /etc directory, then format your linux partitions 
> and install Debian. Some files probably can be used diretly (like the 
> XFree configuration files), others may be helpful because they contain 
> useful information (like the driver modules you need to load for your 
> hardware, e.g. sound and network cards). 
>  
> As you are new to Linux, installing Debian can be quite hard, and you 
> should go to the Debian website and take a look at the documentation 
> there, especially the installation manual and the APT howto. Also, 
> during the installation, /read/ what the installation program tells 
> you. For example, you can install using Kernel 2.4.18, which you 
> probably want to do, but 2.2.20 is default. The installation program 
> can tell you how to use another Kernel. 
>  
> best regards 
> Andreas Janssen 
>  
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Re: Change password from shellscript

[Nunya]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:10:13AM +, James Williamson wrote:
> My version of passwd has a --stdin switch which'll read the 
> password from STDIN, i.e.

Where can I get such a version of passwd?


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Re: web page -> ps problems

[Ross Boylan]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 04:51:07PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ross Boylan wrote:
> >I saved a web page as html with Mozilla 1.5, and then printed it to a
> >postscript file.  
> 
> Can you print anything to file with Mozilla 1.5 and look at it with gv?
> 
> Hugo.
> 
Good question.  I tried another site (apt-get.org) with the same
results, so it seems to be a general problem.  I printed the same site
with Konqueror and it previewed fine (KDE 2.2.2).

It's probably worth noting my setup is a bit unusual as I have put the
unstable mozilla into a mostly testing system.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I use xprt-xprintorg 0.0.8.cvs20030508-6.  Somewhere
> >along the way something went wrong; when I faxed it (hylafax) the
> >recipient only got the upper left corner, very enlarged.
> >
> >gv reports "Error: PostScript interpreter failed in main window."
> >
> >gs dumped me into an interpreter
> >
> >display (from ImageMagick) shows a very large image of the upper right
> >corner.
> >
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enable mouse in tty

[saravanan]

hai,
i) how to enable mouse in tty?
ii) List me the debian package sites? (not OS, other utilities)(sites 
like rpmfind.net)

Sarav

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Re: PDF & cut-&-paste ???

[Patrick Lesslie]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:05:44AM -0600, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> Which PDF readers allow blocking and cut-&-paste?
> 
> Also, which allow searching for text and phrases?

xpdf allows cut and paste.  It feels funny because it is a
pixel-wise block, but it works.

For searching, it might be enough to use pdftotext | grep 
I don't know which other ones allow searching.

Patrick Lesslie


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Re: Redhat to Debian conversion

[Gruessle]

 
Or is this the right knoppix one XFree86 Config 
file:/KNOPPIX/etc/X11 
 
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Gruessle  
 
=== XFree86 Config === 
 
Section "ServerLayout" 
Identifier "XFree86 Configured" 
Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0 
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" 
InputDevice"PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer" 
InputDevice"Serial Mouse" "CorePointer" 
InputDevice"USB Mouse" "CorePointer" 
EndSection 
 
Section "ServerFlags" 
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true" 
@@NOPM@@ 
EndSection 
 
Section "Files" 
RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" 
ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX" 
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF... 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" 
#   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi" 
#   FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi" 
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/
XftConfig! 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera" 
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID" 
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Module" 
Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor 
Load  "GLcore" 
Load  "dbe" 
Load  "dri" 
Load  "extmod" 
Load  "glx" 
Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts 
Load  "speedo" 
Load  "type1" 
Load  "freetype" 
Load  "record" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "Keyboard0" 
Driver  "keyboard" 
Option  "CoreKeyboard" 
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" 
Option "XkbModel" "pc105" 
Option "XkbLayout" "de" 
Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "Serial Mouse" 
Driver  "mouse" 
Option  "Protocol" "Microsoft" 
Option  "Device" "/dev/ttyS0" 
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true" 
Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70" 
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse" 
Driver  "mouse" 
Option  "Protocol" "PS/2" 
Option  "Device" "/dev/psaux" 
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true" 
Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70" 
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true" 
EndSection 
 
Section "InputDevice" 
Identifier  "USB Mouse" 
Driver  "mouse" 
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice" 
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true" 
Option  "Protocol"  "IMPS/2" 
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5" 
Option  "Buttons"   "5" 
EndSection 
 
# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config 
@@MONITOR@@ 
 
Section "Device" 
### Available Driver options are:- 
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards 
#Option "sw_cursor" 
#Option "hw_cursor" 
#Option "NoAccel" 
#Option "ShowCache" 
#Option "ShadowFB" 
#Option "UseFBDev" 
#Option "Rotate" 
Identifier  "Card0" 
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config 
Driver  "@@XMODULE@@" 
VendorName  "All" 
BoardName   "All" 
#   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0" 
EndSection 
 
Section "Screen" 
Identifier "Screen0" 
Device "Card0" 
Monitor"Monitor0" 
DefaultColorDepth 16 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 1 
@@MODES@@ 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 4 
@@MODES@@ 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 8 
@@MODES@@ 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 15 
@@MODES@@ 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 
Depth 16 
@@MODES@@ 
EndSubSection 
SubSection "Display" 

Re: PDF & cut-&-paste ???

[Patrick Lesslie]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:46:16PM +1100, Patrick Lesslie wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:05:44AM -0600, Michael D Schleif wrote:
> > Which PDF readers allow blocking and cut-&-paste?
> > 
> > Also, which allow searching for text and phrases?
> 
> xpdf allows cut and paste.  It feels funny because it is a
> pixel-wise block, but it works.
> 
> For searching, it might be enough to use pdftotext | grep 
> I don't know which other ones allow searching.

Ok, I take that back ... xpdf has a search button.


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Re: Change password from shellscript

[James Williamson]

On Tuesday 16 Dec 2003 7:22 am, Nunya wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 07:10:13AM +, James Williamson wrote:
> > My version of passwd has a --stdin switch which'll read the
> > password from STDIN, i.e.
>
> Where can I get such a version of passwd?

It's on a Redhat machine, doesn't look like passwd on debian has this
'feature'. It's PAM aware so just copying it onto a Debian machine would 
probably break things, I'm pretty new to Debian and haven't looked at the PAM 
side of things yet. I'd have a look at autoexpect which makes it a doddle to 
create expect scripts.

James


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Knoppix saving data

[Gruessle]

I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.

The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix
was the desktop.
After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the desktop.
I figure knoppix deleted that folder.

Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in
by hand?

Gruessle

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Re: Debian Box and ADSL

[David Baron]

Got on!

I can now say pptp hostname (hostname is in hosts as [10.0.0.138] hostname)
and it logs me on.

1. Now I need to know how to get this done on bootup or on logon--without
pppd into neverland (happened once!).

2. Then, some sort of simple-to-configure-and-use firewall.

Any ideas?

Once all this is up and running, I would like to upload a doc somewhere
concisely saying how I got it up. The main instruction came from a knoppix
document, that in German, plus several others. Somewhere along the line, a
script with a UI to get this done more painlessly would be in order.


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General debian questions

[Lucas Albers]

I had some general questions about debian.
Is their any fundamental reason why apt-get could not use rsync in
addition to it's current method?
This should be inherently faster.??

Creating iso image from jigdo-file.
Assume I want to add in some additional packages onto my stable install cd.
Just do thus:
apt-get -d install packages.
Then copy the deb files to my loopback mounted jigdo iso cd image.
I could then install them with dpgk -i packagename.
How hard is it to make it so apt-get when pointing to the cd as a
repositry, can install the packages correctly?

I was planning to recompile my kernel and include the 2.4.22-1-686 kernel
on the stable install cd.
The problem I am encountering is stable won't see the network card on new
machines such as the e1000 card on some integrated motherboards.
So I have to take the machine apart and stick in a old card, get the
network working, then download a new kernel.
I don't want testing,knoppix,redhat CD's.
I want a 1 cd 1 boot installation solution.

Do you think we are going to have some gpg checking of packages, as the
default for apt-get anytime soon?




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Re: Debian Box and ADSL

[Thomas Krennwallner]

Hi!

On Tue Dec 16, 2003 at 10:02:41AM +0200, David Baron wrote:
> 1. Now I need to know how to get this done on bootup or on logon--without
> pppd into neverland (happened once!).

Edit your /etc/ppp/peers/provider file and add following content:


# These are the options to dial out to your default service provider.
# Please customize them correctly. Only the "provider" file will be
# handled by poff and pon (unless with extra command line arguments).

# You usually need this if there is no PAP authentication
noauth

# The chat script (be sure to edit that file, too!)
#connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider"

# Set up routing to go through this PPP link
defaultroute

# Default modem (you better replace this with /dev/ttySx!)
#/dev/modem

# Speed
#38400

# Keep modem up even if connection fails
persist
maxfail 0

# use pptp as connection manager
pty "pptp 10.0.0.138 --nolaunchpppd"

# username
user [EMAIL PROTECTED]



All other options should be turned off. Then test your configuration
through a simple

# pon

command. This should fire up the adsl connection. A simple

# poff

will turn it off. To make adsl available at boot time simply rename
/etc/ppp/no_ppp_on_boot to /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot.

> 2. Then, some sort of simple-to-configure-and-use firewall.

shorewall is simple and powerful (and in debian ;-).

> Once all this is up and running, I would like to upload a doc
> somewhere concisely saying how I got it up. The main instruction came
> from a knoppix document, that in German, plus several others.
> Somewhere along the line, a script with a UI to get this done more
> painlessly would be in order.

Go ahead and type it...  ;-)

So long
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Re: Redhat to Debian conversion

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Gruessle (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I did all that and it still is not working.
>  
> So next what I did was install knoppix.
>  
> To see if I did the config right.
> I don't know how to check the config in knoppix but at the startup
> I shaw some things.
> The nv video card driver is correct.
>  
> Another advatage I have now with knoppis is that I can use webmail on
> this machine. So I have added my XFree86.0.log to the end of this
> file.
>
  
> XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
> [...]
> Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20-8um i686 [ELF]

Okay, I assume this is the output from XFree on Debian Woody.

> (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse"
> (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"

This looks like you configured XFree using dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86.

> [...]
> (II) LoadModule: "nv"
> [...]
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:05:0
> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> (--) Chipset RIVATNT2 (Vanta) found

So the driver is right and your card is found.

> (**) NV(0): Option "UseFBDev" "true"

Aha! Try to set that to "False".

> [...]
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
>  
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found


Rerun dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. The program will remember the
settings you chose the last time. In most cases, you can just press the
enter key. However, when asked if you want to use the kernel
framebuffer, select "no".

best regards
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Re: Install confusion

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Paul Schwartz (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Andreas Janssen wrote:
> 
>> Paul Schwartz (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>>
>>> After reading about using the F3 key at the initial boot screen from
>>> the Woody CD#1, I decided  to try it.
>>>
>>> At the boot: prompt I typed bf24 and sent the install on its way.  
>>> Answered all the questions, made a boot floppy, and rebooted using
>>> said boot floppy.
>>>
>>> Result: the new boot floppy was identical to the original; my kernal
>>> was still 2.2.xx-idepci Why didn't I get the bf24 kernal?
>>
>> Maybe 2.4 is installed on your hard disk, but 2.2.20idepci was used
>> for the boot floppy. What is the name of the kernel image in /boot?
>> It should be vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4. If it is, you can create a new 
>> boot floppy using that kernel. You can also choose only to install 
>> the boot loader on the floppy disk, but use the kernel from the hard 
>> disk, by telling lilo to use /dev/fd0 as the boot device. Or you 
>> install the bootloader in your MBR and don't use the floppy at all.
>
> All of the files in /boot are 2.2.20 version, so none of the bf24
> kernel was installed.
> 
> What are some of the gotchas that could be causing it to ignore the
> bf24 input to boot:?

Honestly, I don't know. But you still can install a 2.4 Kernel on your
system without reinstalling. Make sure security.debian.org is in your
sources.list, and run

apt-get istall kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
to install the 2.4 installation kernel
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686
to install the image for pentium II and later systems. There are also
images for 386, 586, k6 and k7 systems. If you don't use the bf kernel,
make sure you tell lilo to use the initrd for the kernel you installed.
Your current kernel will not be removed and can be loaded by selecting
"LinuxOld" from within the lilo startscreen. You maybe want to
uncomment the "#promt" line in your lilo.conf as well.

best regards
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Re: Knoppix saving data

[Dobai-Pataky Balint]

On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 10:33, Gruessle wrote:
> I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.
> Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in
> by hand?

send a mail for yourself?
save to a floppy?
install knoppix's autoconfig tools into your deb?
install your knoppix with hdinstall and apt-get upgrade it to have a
deb?
use X -configure in your deb insteed of using knoppix's autoconfig tool?
mount hour hdd into knoppix and save there?
do it as root in knoppix, so you access more than your desktop?
print and scan it?

did i miss something? :)




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Re: OT-Make more noise.

[Geoff Bagley]

Alex wrote :

> If just one computer is advertised as guaranteed to be compatibile with 
> just one Linux system, 
> how long will it be before there'll be computers guaranteed to be 
> compatible with any Linux system?
> .
> alex

The problem I face with my local dealer (Evesham)  is not compatibility.
That is already there.   The problem is that I don't want Windows, and
don't want to pay for it since I won't sign the EALA, and don't want to
support Big Bill's pension fund.

They (Evesham) refuse to sell without Windows XP.

Geoff.


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Iptables can't locate its modules

[Anthony Campbell]

I'm trying to set up iptables using kernel 2.4.23. I've installed
iptables and iptables-dev from testing and I've enabled CONFIG_NETFILTER
but all attempts to execute the iptables commands produces:

root:~:# iptables -F
modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need 
to insmod?)
Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

Google produces various references to this problem but no solutions that
I can see. Should I have included other things in the kernel? Any simple
documentation for this? 

Or is it perhaps overkill for a standalone machine, albeit one that is
constantly connected to the met?


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mc question

[Florentin Ionescu]

Is it possible to change in mc M-tab with control-tab for completion?

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Re: Install confusion

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Paul Schwartz (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Hope this isn't a duplicate.

Yes, it is. I answered to the other one.

best regards
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Re: is this the list for me?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

James Miller (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I'm a fairly recent "convert" to Linux (been using it for about 2 yrs
> full time) who has finally settled on Debian as his distro of choice. 
> I often need to ask some pretty stupid questions about setting up,
> using and administering Debian.  So, my first stupid question is: is 
> this the right forum for someone like me?  Is there some other list, 
> like maybe Debian-newbies or something like that, which might be more
> appropriate?

This list is the right place for you if you use Debian and have
questions about using it. However, please make sure that whenever you
have some "stupid" question, you take a look at the archive of the list
first. The probability is high that someone has asked your question
before you and even got an answer. You can read the archive at
lists.debian.org or groups.google.com (group linux.debian.user).

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Re: enable mouse in tty

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* saravanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031216 16:45]:
> hai,
> i) how to enable mouse in tty?

apt-get install gpm

> ii) List me the debian package sites? (not OS, other utilities)(sites
> like rpmfind.net)

http://www.apt-get.org/

You're welcome :-\

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Re: Knoppix saving data

[Stephen Cormier]

On December 16, 2003 04:33 am, Gruessle wrote:
> I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.
>
> The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix
> was the desktop.
> After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the
> desktop. I figure knoppix deleted that folder.
>
> Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing
> in by hand?
>
> Gruessle
>
> ==
Once you have booted Knoppix open a console window then type in:
sudo mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/hd??
sudo cp   /mnt/hd??/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /mnt/hd??/etc/X11/
XF86Config-4.backup
sudo cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /mnt/hd??/etc/X11/XF86Config-4


Replace ?? with drive letter and number of the Debian / partition, the 
first step mounts the / partition. The second copies the Debian X 
configuration to a backup and the third copies the Knoppix 
configuration to the Debian install you will want to answer yes to 
overwriting the file. You may also want to change the protocol used by 
the mouse from auto to whatever you will be using or X will fail to 
start and you are going to get errors due to all the fonts not being 
installed that are in the Knoppix file so you will want to compare both 
files and comment out the lines as necessary.

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Re: Knoppix saving data

[Nick Hastings]

Hi,

* Gruessle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031216 17:29]:
> 
> I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.

Hmm.

> The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix
> was the desktop.
> After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the desktop.
> I figure knoppix deleted that folder.
> 
> Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in
> by hand?

You could mount a disk (floppy or hard) and then "save" (cp) it there.
But I'm worried that would require you learning how.

Another option is to get it from the list archive, since it seems I
already posted it to the list.

wget http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200312/msg05420.html

I have not been following your thread carefully, but I suspect that
you are not going about this the best way. You may do better to simply
read the Debian installation manual _very_ carefully and then follow
it very carefully. If/when you come against a problem you can't
resolve send a very specific message to the list which contains the
following:

1. Brief description of the exact problem.
2. Explicit description of what you have tried.
3. Exact (relevant) error messages etc.

Cheers,

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Firebird+Flash+Esound - Arrrg!

[Patrick Beard]

Hi,
First, I'm running Debian Sarge with a custom 2.60-test9 kernel.
I'm having real problems getting Firebird+Flash to work with esound. I use
ICEWM and was happily using no sound server as I have no need for bell and
whistles on events, and call me primitive, but I can only listen to one song
or sound track at a time. However, while browsing the web the other day I
noticed that if the page is flash based and has sound, then any media
contained on the site plays with no sound. The site I noticed this on is
http://www.fromhellmovie.com There is a 'location walk through' clip that
mplayer-plugin loads and plays, but there is no sound. I presume any of the
recent movie sites are the same.
Anyway, I installed esound and configured xmms and mplayer to use it - all
seemed happy. I then tried firebird - no joy. I then installed
esound-clients, and tried 'esddsp mozilla' from xterm this time the above
site showed the flash loader and when this completed firebird appeared to
hang. As a last resort I installed 'mozilla-browser' and tried esddsp again.
Mozilla-browser showed the same symptoms. After loads of googling I've come
to a halt on this one. Lots of posts on this, but the majority seem to
suggest that esddsp should work. My sound is onboard and uses ES1371 module.

So I would appreciate if anyone can offer help on this one.

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Exim3, with spamassasin, mailscanner and Clam-AV upgrade to Exim4

[Joakim]

Hi, 

I'm about to upgrade from exim3 to exim4. I only have one domain, but I
have two separat exim conf pretty much according to the mailscanner
README.Debian. 
If I do a apt-get install exim4
Can i use the ./convert4r4 for both conf files and still have a working
system? 
Have anybody made a similar upgrade, are there any fallingpits, is there
mayby a good howto (that I havnt found)?

Then I have one more question, can I in a easy way convert the exim mBox
to maildir (and still keep the mail in /var/spool/mail/$user) inorder to
use Courier-IMAPd so that I can also use a good webserver to check my
mail when on the run?

Cheers, 
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Re: Iptables can't locate its modules

[Anita Lewis]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:43:06 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I'm trying to set up iptables using kernel 2.4.23. I've installed
> iptables and iptables-dev from testing and I've enabled CONFIG_NETFILTER
> but all attempts to execute the iptables commands produces:
>
> root:~:# iptables -F
> modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you 
> need to insmod?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.

I don't have that kernel, but I also have CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y in my
/usr/src/linux/.config file.

Anita


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Re: General debian questions

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:44:02AM -0700, Lucas Albers wrote:
> Is their any fundamental reason why apt-get could not use rsync in
> addition to it's current method?
> This should be inherently faster.??

It would impose too much load on the servers; rsync is a bit of a pain
that way. It's been proposed and rejected.

> Creating iso image from jigdo-file.
> Assume I want to add in some additional packages onto my stable install cd.
> Just do thus:
> apt-get -d install packages.
> Then copy the deb files to my loopback mounted jigdo iso cd image.
> I could then install them with dpgk -i packagename.
> How hard is it to make it so apt-get when pointing to the cd as a
> repositry, can install the packages correctly?

Use dpkg-scanpackages to update the Packages file (and remember to gzip
it, so you've got Packages.gz).

> Do you think we are going to have some gpg checking of packages, as the
> default for apt-get anytime soon?

For individual packages, probably at some point, but I'm not sure about
soon. Note that we *do* have a GPG signature trail back to Release.gpg
which is sufficient for you to verify the packages in the main archive.
See the Securing Debian Manual for more information.

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squid и авторизация в виндовом домене

[spied]

как лучше сделать авторизацию пользователей в squid без запроса пароля?
есть домен на win2k

насколько я понял, рекомендуемое решение - использовать squid 2.5,
samba 3.0 и ntlm_auth из комплекта самбы.
у меня стоит squid из testing, пробовал пакеты для самбы с
www.samba.org и из debian/testing - нигде нет ntlm_auth

попробовал использовать ntlm_auth из пакета squid - с ним есть
пара проблем:
 - иногда все-таки ie запрашивает пароль.
пробовал крутить числа в настройках, не помогает. сейчас стоят
такие значения:
auth_param ntlm program  /usr/lib/squid/ntlm_auth dionis/master
auth_param ntlm children 10
auth_param ntlm max_challenge_reuses 10
auth_param ntlm max_challenge_lifetime 10 minutes  

 - не понятно, как в конфиге squid задавать русские имена. в
access.log русские имена пишутся как dionis\%80%8d%92%8e%8d.
пробовал в конфиге указывать в таком виде, русскими буквами,
заглавными русскими буквами - не получается. локаль у меня 1251, так
что с кодировками проблем быть не должно.

решатся ли эти проблемы с установкой ntlm_auth из третьей самбы? или
как-нибудь по-другому их можно решать?

ещё похоже появилась задержка перед началом загрузки страницы (порядка
секунды) и access.log забивается кучей TCP_DENIED/407. короче как-то
более радужно виделся переход на ntlm-авторизацию в прокси.


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xcdroast

[Gavin Seddon]

Hello,
I put the append line in my lilo.conf and success in that I get the hdc found 
when I reboot.  However, 
when I start xcdroast the cdrw is still not found.  Can you help pls?
Gavin.


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right kernal for AMD

[Gruessle]

How do I find out what the right image is for a AMD 700?

apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686

386, 586, k6 and k7 systems


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dpkg-scanpackages [was Re: General debian questions]

[Nunya]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:40:45AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> Use dpkg-scanpackages to update the Packages file (and remember to gzip
> it, so you've got Packages.gz).

When you say "update" the Packages, are you implying that you can do an 
incremental update of an existing Packages file?

I use the command:
#dpkg-scanpackages latest /dev/null > $sub/Packages

and every invocation takes the same amount of time, it's quite a lengthy 
process, even though the archive is but little changed -- it doesn't 
"reuse" what it can.


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$HOSTNAME is not exported

[Sergey Spiridonov]

Hi,

I found out, that $HOSTNAME is not exported by default in latest unstable:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $HOSTNAME
mars
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ env | grep HOSTNAME
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Is it a bug?
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Newsletter - Aktivierungslink

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RE: Sreelal Chandrasenan

[Ricky Taylor]

I second this. Getting tired of seeing his inter-company mail. Just my .02.

-Original Message-
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To: Debian User (E-mail)
Subject: Sreelal Chandrasenan


WTF is going on?  Why is this guy bombarding the list with junk?  It's 
not even proper spam!

Can somebody block him or something?

Cheers,

Jon


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Re: Redhat to Debian conversion

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 08:44, Gruessle wrote:
> I am new to Linux and for 2 1/2 days I been trying to install Debian.
> Well I have the very basics installed but that is really all I got.
> 
> Now I have Redhat and that is easy to install. 
> Somewhere I read that it is posible to convert a Redhat install to Debian.
> 
> I am wondering if that is maybe easyer then installing Debian.
> 
> And what are the good and bad points.

I found Debian is more difficult to maintain than RedHat Linux.

I was running RedHat Linux. The last one was 6.2. on an Intel machine.
And I installed Debian first time at the spring/summer of this year.

The Debian install was rather easy here, i.e. on a powerpc architecture.
Problems come when I have to tweak the installed system according to my
needs.

Debian is a bit like these marts where one can buy, for example, some
furniture that you'll have to assemble at home: All you get is the
planks, the nails and, if you're lucky, an understandable manual that
tells you *how* to assemble it.
And the assembling part  *can* become a hard piece of work ... :)

On the other hand with Debian on the machine I quickly learned how to
compile my own kernel, which wasn't very difficult, but *definitely*
very time consuming.

I find it difficult to tell what distro is "better" for beginners than
others.

Did you have a look a Lindows?



 It seems to be Debian based:


Here is an article on it:


I'd be careful with Redhat these days: If I understand correctly,
they'll stop providing updates for their current RedHat 9 version next
year:


"Red Hat Linux maintenance and errata support is ending April 30, 2004."

Some notes of mine regarding Debian, on the debian-powerpc list some
time ago:



Hoping this helps.

Best Regards,
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RE: Web server Partitions

[Edward Murrell]

> With that in mind, I would divy up your drive as follows
> (the following assumes that the server doesn't have any major mail
> server roles (/var/), that /usr/local/ will be free of anything major,
> that there's no NFS mounting, and that the server will run a database
> that will keep things somethere in /lib/, and that /home/ will stay
> mostly free of general user files.
> 
> / - 10 GB
> /home/- 20 GB
> /lib/ - 2 GB
> /var/ - 1 GB
> /tmp/ - 5 GB
> swap  - 2 GB


On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 17:52, Braxton Neate wrote:
> I have separate directories for each website but they are in /var.
> Is there any particular reason why you have yours in /home? I tend to
> keep /home strictly for users home directory's. There isn't many users
> that will have shell access, but my home directory is usually quite
> large 3=).
> 
> The plan is that all development of code for websites will be done by a
> user in there shell account uploaded to CVS and then when it is ready it
> will be deployed in /var/www or /var/www2 etc.
> 
> I currently have 1GB of swap space which seams sufficient, 2GB seems a
> bit excessive. I was told that the rule of thumb is double the amount of
> physical RAM.
> 
> My main concern is running out of space in a partition once everything
> is setup and running. So I want to be sure before I go ahead. It's a
> shame that there isn't a tool for Linux like Partition Magic. I have
> always been to freaked out to resize partitions on an existing
> installation of Linux.
> 
> What do people think about the following:
> 
> / - 7GB
> /usr - 10GB
> /home - 10GB
> /var - 10GB
> /tmp - 1.5GB
> SWAP - 1.5GB

I suspect my requirements are slightly different to yours. About five sites
are 'root' sites. That is, sites developed by company staff. The rest (and there's
more than a few) are generic websites that we host for various people, varying
from simple .html and jpeg types in ~/public_html/ to php/mysql wonders with
proper domains. The only other things that appear in home directories are the mbox 
files
for the IMAP servers (something I wish I'd actually thought about). Most people have
shell access, but few use it.

Given your development method, I see nothing wrong with the way you intend to do.

Your partition seems fine, although it's probably not worth having such a large / 
partition
if you are going to separate out /usr/. Without /var, /usr, /home, and /tmp, the 
entire / partition
will probably weigh in at less than 40 MB, unless you have some truly large files in 
/etc/.

Regards
Edward




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Re: Solved: pty problem

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:28:00AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
> I tried to configure mlterm to run and it seems that there is a problem
> with the pty setup on my computer. The line that keeps failing is:
> 
>   if( ( ttydev = ptsname(*master)) == NULL)
> 
> I added pty support in my kernel (custom compiled) but it seems that
> its not enough.
> Any idea what I'm missing?
> 
> Thanks
> 

Apparently I missed the fact that I need the /dev/pty file system
support in the kernel.

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fvwm 2.5.8 as Debian package

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear all,

until recently, I have been using
 for debianing the latest fvwm
packages.  However, since the Debian machines were compromised, I
cannot access this directory anymore.

For this reason, I would like to ask you whether there is another
location around where I can find the respective packages.

Thanks in advance!

wbr,
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Re: Iptables can't locate its modules

[Anthony Campbell]

On 16 Dec 2003, Anita Lewis wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:43:06 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up iptables using kernel 2.4.23. I've installed
> > iptables and iptables-dev from testing and I've enabled CONFIG_NETFILTER
> > but all attempts to execute the iptables commands produces:
> >
> > root:~:# iptables -F
> > modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> > iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you 
> > need to insmod?)
> > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
> 
> I don't have that kernel, but I also have CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y in my
> /usr/src/linux/.config file.
> 
> Anita
> 
> 


Thanks, will try that.

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Re: fvwm 2.5.8 as Debian package

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra]

Em Ter, 2003-12-16 Ãs 11:03, Lukas Ruf escreveu:

> For this reason, I would like to ask you whether there is another
> location around where I can find the respective packages.

Try asking at http://apt-get.org./


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Re: fvwm 2.5.8 as Debian package

[Paul Smith]

You can get DEBs created by Mikhael Goikhman (one of the FVWM
maintainers) at the fvwm-themes site:

  http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/

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Re: XFree86 with i810 onboard graphics (Newbie)

[Adam Garside]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:45:08AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Allan Cairns wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Sorry if this is repeating a topic you've seen a dozen times before but 
> >I'm having real trouble starting X on my old celery 400 with the Intel 
> >i810 onboard graphics chip.
> >
> >I installed Debian Woody fresh and selected the i810 chip from the list. 
> >I also went conservative with my monitor settings as it's an old and 
> >crappy 14". On completion of the install and package install (done over 
> >web), it rebooted and tried to start x (GDM) over the text login prompt. 
> >After two or three goes it comes up with an error and asks me if I want 
> >to view the log (attached). It then asks me if I want it to try and 
> >configure X - this makes no difference.
> 
> I suspect you used the default 2.2 kernel (uname -a); you'll probably 
> want to upgrade to a 2.4.x kernel to get better support on that board. 
> If "lspci" recognizes your video card, you're probably okay; if it says 
> something like "unknown chipset", you'll want to upgrade your kernel.
> 
> You might also want to upgrade to testing or to sid for newer X packages 
> for better support also.

Instead of fully using sid or testing, you might checkout the woody
backports available at:

www.apt-get.org

> 
> >Section "Device"
> >Identifier  "Generic Video Card"
> >Driver  "i810"
> >VideoRam8192
> >Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
> >EndSection
> 
> You might also try turning UseFBDev off (set it to "false").
> 
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Re: Exim3, with spamassasin, mailscanner and Clam-AV upgrade to Exim4

[Andy Firman]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:30:43AM +0100, Joakim wrote:
> I'm about to upgrade from exim3 to exim4. I only have one domain, but I
> have two separat exim conf pretty much according to the mailscanner
> README.Debian. 
> If I do a apt-get install exim4
> Can i use the ./convert4r4 for both conf files and still have a working
> system? 
> Have anybody made a similar upgrade, are there any fallingpits, is there
> mayby a good howto (that I havnt found)?

Please post your notes to this list when you are done if you don't mind as
I have been wanting to do this for a while.

Where are you going to get your backport?  (if you will be backporting)
I don't see exim listed here:
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/stable/

Is there an official backport?

> Then I have one more question, can I in a easy way convert the exim mBox
> to maildir (and still keep the mail in /var/spool/mail/$user) inorder to
> use Courier-IMAPd so that I can also use a good webserver to check my
> mail when on the run?

Mutt is an excellent choice for doing the conversion.

Make sure your .muttrc has Maildir as its mbox_type:

set mbox_type=Maildir

Use mutt to open up the particular mbox.

type "T" then type "." which will tag all the messages.

Type ";s" and mutt will ask you where you want to
move all the messages and it will create a NEW Maildir for you.

(the semi-colon is important...took me a while to figure
that out and if you don't use it, it will only save one message)

You state you want to keep the existing mail so use ";C".
This will copy all the messages to the new location...not move them.

Courier-IMAP does not require your messages to be in 
/var/spool/mail/$user.  I have Courier-IMAP set up with SquirrelMail
that reads all of my mail which is in /home/andy/Maildir.
unless I don't understand your question correctly.

You may need to tweak the exim.conf to deliver your mail to the
Maildir using the "local_delivery:" section to deliver to 
"directory = ${home}/Maildir/" and you may need to learn exim
filters which I love and are easy to learn.

Hope your conversion goes well.

Andy


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Trustworthiness of unaccounted Debian packages

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear all,

what is the trustworthiness generally expected from packages that are
not in the main-line of the Debian distribution?

For example, packages that I find on  and packages
found elsewhere?  While the former is not fully clear to me, the later
is obvious: there cannot be a real trust --- or am I mistaken with
that?

Thanks for any enlightenment!

wbr,
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Nautilus won't die

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra]

I have a really weird situation here...

I have a Debian GNU/Linux i386 testing host with some ten terminals
attached, running a Debian mini-distro derived originally from LTSP. 
They are running Gnome 2.4, but this problem exists since Gnome 2.2.

Nautilus will freeze on all terminals at the same time, and refuse to
display icons, open windows or refresh already open windows.  It's
impossible also to quit the Gnome session, but most other buttons are
working, so one can open apps and use them to open files anyway.

There are some other problems with xscreensaver dying constantly and
Evolution not being able to attach files, but I don't think they are
related.

The weirder of all is that I can't kill Nautilus after it freezes. 
There are some defunct processes, but be it a killall -KILL or a kill
-KILL no process dies, and I'm forced to reboot the server.

Any ideas?  My hacker colleague seems to think it is a kernel problem,
so we will eventually install 2.4.23, but I fear it could be some Gnome
or Glibc thing.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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Re: Trustworthiness of unaccounted Debian packages

[Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra]

Em Ter, 2003-12-16 Ãs 11:43, Lukas Ruf escreveu:
> For example, packages that I find on  and packages
> found elsewhere?  While the former is not fully clear to me

It will be an issue of personal trustworthiness.  These are Debian
developers, but the quality level they release packages at
extra-officially may vary widely.


> the later
> is obvious: there cannot be a real trust --- or am I mistaken with
> that?

100% correct.


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Re: xcdroast

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Gavin Seddon (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I put the append line in my lilo.conf and success in that I get the
> hdc found when I reboot.  However, when I start xcdroast the cdrw is 
> still not found.  Can you help pls?

What did the line look like? And did you re-run lilo?

Are member of the cdrom group? If not, add yourself to that group, log
out and in again. Also, make sure the ide-scsi module is loaded:

modprobe ide-scsi

Now use cdrecord -scanbus

to see if your drive is listed.

Add ide-scsi to /etc/modules to load it automatically at boottime.

best regards
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RE: Web server Partitions

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya braxton

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Braxton Neate wrote:

> My main concern is running out of space in a partition once everything
> is setup and running. So I want to be sure before I go ahead. It's a

..

there are many different partition schools of thought ...

http://www.Linux-1U.net/Partitions

mine is..
- the system must be easily backed up and restored just in case
- i backup "user" stuff  system is already backed up
on millions of servers 
- the system must be fixable onsite ( w/o reinstall ) because
  you forgot to bring that sparedisk, or bring bbc, or bring
  knoppix
- system data is to be kept separate from "user stuff"
- security of the server is more important than convenience
  to windoze folks wanting to run frontpage ( or equiv )
- users should never run out of space ( other than filling up the
  disk )

> What do people think about the following:
> 
> / - 7GB

/ should only be 256MB or less 
- if the machine dies, only 256MB needs to be clean for you
to be able to use the machine to fix itself if its fixable

> /usr - 10GB

/usr/local is the issue, do you lave it in "system" area or do you
symlink to "user" are /usr/local

> /home - 10GB

should be the whole disk ... ( maximum amount available/left over )

> /var - 10GB

if you want to save weblogs, you can move it to /home 
since "users" want that info

system use very little space in /var

> /tmp - 1.5GB

there is zero need to have so much /tmp space ??
128MB or 256MB is more than enough for 95% of all apps i seen

> SWAP - 1.5GB

add real memory for each 256MB of swapp beng used
swap size of 2x real memory was the old rule of thumb when
memory was 10x the costs of disks ... 

2GB of swap is 10x too slow for a 1GB of real memory
way cheaper/faster/easier to add a 2nd 1GB stick of mem

-- you'd be painfully slow when using swap 


c ya
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Re: enable mouse in tty

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:15:04PM +0530, saravanan wrote:
> hai,
> i) how to enable mouse in tty?

gpm

> ii) List me the debian package sites? (not OS, other utilities)(sites 
> like rpmfind.net)

There is the main repository and its many mirrors (look in
www.debian.org under the packages entry there should be a link to a
mirror list, although there are more out there).

There are also a lot of unofficial repositories for different purposes
(more relaxed attitude to no GPL licences, special ports of programs,
experimental/not in debian versions of programs, etc.) You usually find
these when you run into programs you don't find in debian proper and
google to see if debs are available somewhere. Also follow the lists,
references to come up occasionally in response to newer/not available
version inquiries.

> 
> Sarav
> 
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Re: right kernal for AMD

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Gruessle (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> How do I find out what the right image is for a AMD 700?
> 
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686
> 
> 386, 586, k6 and k7 systems

Seems your system is an Athlon or Duron, so the following kernels will
work:

bf2.4
386
586
k6
k7

I would use the k7-Kernel, that one was compiled for your system. The
other ones work because your processor is downward compatible to them.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: loopback interface down, sob ;-(

[A . L . Meyers]

Thanks, Andreas.  Alas the problem is still alive but here are some
details from doing

networking restart

in /etc/init.d/ :

wassern:/etc/init.d# ./networking restart
Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifconfig: can not resolve `down': Host name lookup 
failure
cat: /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid: No such file or directory
ifconfig: can not resolve `down': Host name lookup failure
ifconfig: only one address allowed for interface `lo'
Usage: ifconfig [OPTION]... [SYSTEM OPTION]...
Try `ifconfig --help' for more information.
Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
All rights reserved.

Please contribute if you find this software useful.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/dhcp-contrib.html

ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
sl0: unknown hardware address type 256
ifconfig: can not resolve `up': Host name lookup failure
ppp0: unknown hardware address type 512
sl0: unknown hardware address type 256
Bind socket to interface: No such device
exiting.
done.

The configuration in /etc/network/ and / or that in
/etc/init.d/networking is faulty, as I can access the hardware
flawlessly from another linux installation on another hard drive of
the same system.  The strange thing for me is that ifconfig is seeking
hosts called 'up' and 'down'.

How can I force apt-get to reinstall the original networking
configuration files in /etc ?  Which package is appropriate?

Best regards,

Lux


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Port forwarding with ipmasq

[Brendan Bache]

Hi,

I'm running debian woody on my gateway with the ipmasq package installed
and I need to do some port forwarding. For instance, I need to forward
some ports for BitTorrent running on a box on my LAN so I created a file
/etc/ipmasq/rules/F10bt.rul

---F10bt.rul---
ipnm_cache ppp0
btPorts="6881 6882"

for port in $btPorts;
do
$IPTABLES -A PREROUTING -t nat -p tcp -d $IPOFIF/$NMOFIF --dport $port
-j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.0.2:$port
$IPTABLES -A FORWARD -p tcp -d $IPOFIF/$NMOFIF --dport $port -m
state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
done
---/F10bt.rul---

Where ppp0 is my external interface and 10.0.0.2 is the box on the LAN
that is running the BitTorrent client. From the gateway I can connect to
10.0.0.2 on port 6881. However if I try using the IP of my external
interface then I get connection refused. What's wrong with my rules? I
haven't changed anything about the default ipmasq setup other than
adding that .rul file and masquerading is working fine, it's just port
forwarding that is having problems. Using iptables -L and iptables -t
nat -L I can see that these rules are being added to their respective
chains without issue.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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Re: dpkg-scanpackages [was Re: General debian questions]

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:59:04AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:40:45AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Use dpkg-scanpackages to update the Packages file (and remember to gzip
> > it, so you've got Packages.gz).
> 
> When you say "update" the Packages, are you implying that you can do an 
> incremental update of an existing Packages file?

I was just talking about replacing it, actually.

> I use the command:
> #dpkg-scanpackages latest /dev/null > $sub/Packages
> 
> and every invocation takes the same amount of time, it's quite a lengthy 
> process, even though the archive is but little changed -- it doesn't 
> "reuse" what it can.

You might like to look into apt-ftparchive, which was written because
dpkg-scanpackages was getting too slow for the needs of the Debian
archive. However, I haven't used it myself so I'm hesitant to recommend
it straight off because I don't know how hard it is to set up. (It might
be quite easy, which would be nice ...)

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Re: fvwm 2.5.8 as Debian package

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> until recently, I have been using
>  for debianing the latest fvwm
> packages.  However, since the Debian machines were compromised, I
> cannot access this directory anymore.
> 
> For this reason, I would like to ask you whether there is another
> location around where I can find the respective packages.

I suggest mailing sacha and asking him to restore the relevant
directory.

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Re: xcdroast

[Gavin Seddon]

On Tuesday 16 December 2003 12:31, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> modprobe ide-scsi
Yes the conf file is ok, but when I run modprobe Iget

 modprobe ide-scsi
modprobe: Can't locate module ide-scsi

Also, when I run cdrecord it complains of not being there.  It must be 
installed though .
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Re: Install confusion

[Paul Schwartz]

Andreas Janssen wrote:

Hello

  
Maybe 2.4 is installed on your hard disk, but 2.2.20idepci was used
for the boot floppy. What is the name of the kernel image in /boot?
It should be vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4. If it is, you can create a new 
boot floppy using that kernel. You can also choose only to install 
the boot loader on the floppy disk, but use the kernel from the hard 
disk, by telling lilo to use /dev/fd0 as the boot device. Or you 
install the bootloader in your MBR and don't use the floppy at all.
 

All of the files in /boot are 2.2.20 version, so none of the bf24
kernel was installed.
What are some of the gotchas that could be causing it to ignore the
bf24 input to boot:?
   

Honestly, I don't know. But you still can install a 2.4 Kernel on your
system without reinstalling. Make sure security.debian.org is in your
sources.list, and run
apt-get istall kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
to install the 2.4 installation kernel
apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686
to install the image for pentium II and later systems. There are also
images for 386, 586, k6 and k7 systems. If you don't use the bf kernel,
make sure you tell lilo to use the initrd for the kernel you installed.
Your current kernel will not be removed and can be loaded by selecting
"LinuxOld" from within the lilo startscreen. You maybe want to
uncomment the "#promt" line in your lilo.conf as well.
best regards
   Andreas Janssen
 

Thanks for the help.  I will try your suggestions. I am just trying to 
understand what is going on. While somewhat frustrating, the process is 
also very educational.
Right now  I am booting from floppy because I don't want to screw up my 
legacy system [OS/2 4.52 which uses a Boot Manager and LVM. I think it 
can be sensitive to changes in boot stuff] until I have the Debian 
system working to some minimal level of completeness.

Thanks again.
Paul Schwartz


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Re: Installing Enigmail

[HdV]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, ninaiz wrote:

> try as a normal user:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ xhost local:
> non-network local connections being added to access control list
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ su ( AND NOT SU - )
> Password:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ mozilla

Please don't do that. Better to learn the propper way to run X as
another user by using xauth. Xauth allows you to import the magic cookie
of another user, so you can authenticate yourself to X like this:

$ su - 
# export DISPLAY=:0.0; xauth merge ~/.Xauthority
# xfontsel &

xhost won't discriminate users, only hosts, which could be a security
problem on a multi-user system.

Fill in the propper username and display and your good to go.

HTH

Grx HdV



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Re: /var/cache/apt (was Re: don't have enough free space)

[ben_foley]

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:37:02PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> 
>- You can also extend your archive space, in a pinch, by creating a
>  symlink to a larger partition.  Say you've only got 250 MiB on /var
>  and a 5 GiB /home.  Create, say, /home/admin, and under that:
>  links/var/cache/apt.  Copy your existing /var/cache/apt to this
>  location, then: 
>  
>rm -rf /var/cache/apt
>ln -s /home/admin/links/var/cache/apt /var/cache/apt
> 
>  ...exercising the flexibility of GNU/Linux.
>  
cool. thanks karsten.

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XP-LINUX Dual Boot

[Abhay Watwe]

Hi:

I have a Dell Dimension 8300 which came preloaded with XP on the first hard
drive.  I added a second hard drive and installed Debian Woody on it.  I
installed LILO with MBR on /dev/hdb1 which is my / partition.  The machine
does not have a floppy drive, so I rebooted and used the Debian CD to boot
into linux in rescue mode.  Then I used the following command to create a
linux.bin file

dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/linux.bin bs=512 count=1

I copied linux.bin to /dev/hdb4 which is my vfat partition.  I rebooted the
machine and logged in as root into XP.  I copied the file linux.bin to C:
and added the following entry to boot.ini

C:\linux.bin="Debian Linux"

I rebooted again and selected "Debian Linux" from the menu.  I got a bunch
of 0s and 7s filling up my whole screen but it never booted into linux.

Any help with dual booting XP and Linux with XP boot loader will be much
appreciated.

Thanks

Abhay


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Re: loopback interface down, sob ;-(

[Lou Losee]

* A.L.Meyers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-16 09:38]:
> Thanks, Andreas.  Alas the problem is still alive but here are some
> details from doing
> 
> networking restart
> 
> in /etc/init.d/ :
> 
> wassern:/etc/init.d# ./networking restart
> Reconfiguring network interfaces...ifconfig: can not resolve `down': Host name 
> lookup failure
> cat: /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid: No such file or directory
> ifconfig: can not resolve `down': Host name lookup failure
> ifconfig: only one address allowed for interface `lo'
> Usage: ifconfig [OPTION]... [SYSTEM OPTION]...
> Try `ifconfig --help' for more information.
> Internet Software Consortium DHCP Client 2.0pl5
> Copyright 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 The Internet Software Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> 

> 
This matches the problem I was having almost exactly (see my previous
response to this thread.

To verify, as root, do a:

find / -name ifconfig

and see if there are more than one copy on your system.

Lou


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Re: mc question

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Florentin Ionescu wrote:
Is it possible to change in mc M-tab with control-tab for completion?

Thank you,


I don't think so. But you would be better off asking this to the 
mailinglist for mc, Pavel Roskin surely knows the answer, but I asked 
something similar a while back: the key sequences are hardcoded.
Check google for midnight commander and then their page for the mailing 
list subscription. ;-)

Hugo.

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xtree for Linux

[Gruessle]

Somebody told me about a software like xtree gold (msdos software)
I used it before but I don't recall it's name or how to install it.

xTree Gold is a dos based program where you can have two folders side by
side and work with them, like copy move etc.

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Re: Iptables can't locate its modules

[Antony Gelberg]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:43:06AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I'm trying to set up iptables using kernel 2.4.23. I've installed
> iptables and iptables-dev from testing and I've enabled CONFIG_NETFILTER
> but all attempts to execute the iptables commands produces:
> 
> root:~:# iptables -F
> modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you 
> need to insmod?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
> 
> Google produces various references to this problem but no solutions that
> I can see. Should I have included other things in the kernel? Any simple
> documentation for this? 
> 
> Or is it perhaps overkill for a standalone machine, albeit one that is
> constantly connected to the met?

No, you need it.  I would compile iptables and associated sub-options as
modules, rather than straight into the kernel.  That was you don't need
to recompile if you decide to use different iptables features.

And use this to generate your script.  http://morizot.net/firewall/gen/
It's the way forward.

A

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Re: xtree for Linux

[charlie derr]

sid$ apt-cache search xtree
ytree - A file manager that looks like Xtree Gold(tm)
	cool, i remember xtree

		~c

Gruessle wrote:
Somebody told me about a software like xtree gold (msdos software)
I used it before but I don't recall it's name or how to install it.
xTree Gold is a dos based program where you can have two folders side by
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Re: My Debian box can't connect Internet (run out of tricks)

[Stephen Liu]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your advice.

On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 03:44, Robert Storey wrote:
> Dear Stephen,
> 
> It's very odd that you can't change this file as root. The only thing I
> know of that would cause this is if the immutable flag is set. The way
> to find out is with the lsattr command:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc> lsattr resolv.conf
> s---c resolv.conf
> 
> As you don't see an "i" that means the immutable flag is not set, so no
> problem.
> 
> Changing the immutable flag is done with the chattr command.
> 
> I have heard it said that crackers do mess with the immutable flag, but
> it seems odd that your box would be cracked if you can't even get
> online.
> 
> By the way, my /etc/resolv.conf has nothing in it, but it works. 


After running
# chattr + /etc/resolv.conf
then
# chattr - /etc/resolv.conf

Now  /etc/resolv.conf  can be edited.


> When I
> connect with the command "pon dsl-provider" a temporary address is
> provided. I can see that address with the plog command. The only
> annoyance I've had with pppoe is that I have to be root to issue the
> pon/poff dsl-provider commands - there must be a way around that, but I
> haven't found it yet. You could try running pppoeconf again and set your
> system so it does NOT connect to the Internet on bootup, and use the
> pon/poff dsl-provider command (it would be easier than reinstalling).


I ran  'pppoeconfig' again selecting not starting 'pppoe' at boot.

# pon dsl-provider

ifconfig  showing ISP connected but the Debian box was still cut off
from Internet.

I took another spare hard drive and performed another installing Debian
test on another PC.  This time I used net-installer, sarge CD. 
Everything went through smoothly.  However he same problem still
occurred, ISP connected but cut off from Internet.  Therefore I could
not download packages from Debain website or its mirror sites to
complete the installation.

I am a little bid disappointed.  I could not discover where the Debian
box are blocked from connecting to Internet.

B.R.
Stephen

> 
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:24:19 +0800
> Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Paul,
> > 
> > Thanks for your advice.
> > 
> > On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 04:13, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:54:22PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > > > # cat /etc/resolv.conf 
> > > > search domain.com\000 
> > > > nameserver 192.168.2.1 
> > > 
> > > Ah ha!  You might try adding a nameserver on the outside or make
> > > sure that nameserver is able to get a connection to the outside
> > > world.
> > 
> > That is the original 'resolv.conf' file.  I have not touched it and
> > also I was not allowed to alter this file even as ROOT.  This was very
> > strange to me.  The said file can be opened with a Text editor, 'nano'
> > or 'kedit', and editing also allowed.  'Saving changes' to the file
> > was not allowed.  You can save the file but it only retains its
> > original content.
> > 
> > If no solution found then I think I have to make another clean
> > installation of Debian 3.0 again.  I will use net-installation.  I am
> > connecting to broadband of 3MB bandwidth.  If it is not installing
> > from source code, like Gentoo 1.4, the download time won't be long and
> > I can have the maybe uptodate packages.
> > 
> > B.R.
> > Stephen


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Re: Knoppix saving data

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Gruessle wrote:
I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.

The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix
was the desktop.
After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the desktop.
I figure knoppix deleted that folder.
Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in
by hand?
Gruessle

==


Well, the answers are already given, but what I do is use mc first of 
all in a vc:
1. switch to a vc with Ctrl-Alt-Fx
2. mc
3. use mc with file->mkdir and create a new directory
4. I don't thing you have to do the sudo mount, I think I do just mount 
-t ext2 /dev/hdxx /
5. then just use mc to copy whatever you want to that new dir.

Hugo.

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Re: Web server Partitions

[David Z Maze]

"Braxton Neate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I know this is a question that gets asked a lot, but googling around
> I can't seem to find a good answer.  I'm re-installing a web/sql
> server which currently has one large root partition and a swap
> partition.  This is obviously not the best setup.
>
> I'm wondering what other people would recommend in the way of
> partitioning?
>
> The server is a 2x 800mhz PIII with 512MB RAM and a 40GB hard drive. 

It depends on your exact needs.  Assuming you have no normal
interactive users, I'd probably set it up as

  /var/www -- "big enough", maybe 10-15 GB
  /var/lib/postgres (or whever) -- "big enough", maybe 10-15 GB
  swap -- 0.5-1 GB
  / -- Whatever's left

On this sort of system, the main benefits you get from partitioning
are fault isolation: if something gets confused on your root
filesystem, and fsck can't recover it, you haven't lost your data.
Alternatively, if you decide to reinstall the system, this
partitioning scheme lets you reinstall software but keep data.  If you
have a substantial amount of built-from-source software, you might
also consider a partition for /usr/local for similar reasons.

Adding more partitions, in my experience, doesn't make the system more
manageable; a common thing to happen is to install the system with a
small /var partition and then later realize that using APT is painful
because it wants lots of space in /var/cache/apt.  Or you make /usr
too small, or /tmp too small, and run into problems later on.

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Similar question was: Change password from shellscript

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Peter wrote:
Howdie,

I want to make a shellscript with the ability to change a
userspassword. I can't get it to work properly because when i say
passwd user i will have to enter the password is there a way or a
switch todo this in a style like passwd user password
Thankz,
Peter

I want to make a script (which I am at present unable to do) that does this:

su

export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11
xsane
exit from script
Note: su insists on running from a terminal window.

How do you do that?

Thanks!

Hugo.




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Re: loopback interface down, sob ;-(

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

A.L.Meyers (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Thanks, Andreas.  Alas the problem is still alive but here are some
> details from doing
> 
> networking restart
> 
> in /etc/init.d/ :
> 
> [...]
> 
> How can I force apt-get to reinstall the original networking
> configuration files in /etc ?  Which package is appropriate?

I cannot say what the problem is, but maybe moving
/etc/network/interfaces out of the way and installing or
dpkg-reconfiguring etherconf can help you.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: right kernal for AMD

[David Z Maze]

"Gruessle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How do I find out what the right image is for a AMD 700?
>
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686
>
> 386, 586, k6 and k7 systems

That's an Athlon chip, right?  Probably 2.4.18-1-k7 is the "best"
pick, since it also includes a patch for the recent local-root exploit
that affected Debian, and it's the closest match for your processor.
-386 should always work, though.

(ObNitpick: AFAIK, only the Commodore 64 had a "kernal"; you could
install VICE to get one.  :p  JSR $FFD2, baby!)

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Can't get this crontab entry to work

[David]

 12 8 * * * tar -cf /lin2/backup_deb_`date +%m%d%y` /home /etc /var/www


 I keep getting the following error message in my mailbox from cron:

 /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
 /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file

What am I doing wrong?

I was able to run the cron job without the time stamp, but now I really
would like to add it and I don't seem to be having much luck.  I think
its the backtics that are giving me the problem.


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Re: xtree for Linux

[benoit]

Message de Gruessle, le mardi 16 décembre :
> 
> Somebody told me about a software like xtree gold (msdos software)
> I used it before but I don't recall it's name or how to install it.
> 
> xTree Gold is a dos based program where you can have two folders side by
> side and work with them, like copy move etc.


Package: mc
Description: Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager
 GNU Midnight Commander is a text-mode full-screen file manager. It
 uses a two panel interface and a subshell for command execution. It
 includes an internal editor with syntax highlighting and an internal
 viewer with support for binary files. Also included is Virtual
 Filesystem (VFS), that allows files on remote systems (e.g. FTP
 servers) and files inside archives to be manipulated like real files.



i think it's what you're looking for :)



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Re: Knoppix saving data

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 12:33:57AM -0800, Gruessle wrote:
> 
> 
> I am trying to use the XFree86 config data from knoppix for Debian.
> 
> The only place I could find where I can save data while in knoppix
> was the desktop.
> After exiting knoppix and going back to Debian I can't find the desktop.
> I figure knoppix deleted that folder.
> 
> Do you have any solutions I could use besides typing that whole thing in
> by hand?
> 

Knoppix starts up with the hard disk(s) mounted read only. To save a
file to hard disk, you must choose a partition which you are willing
to switch to read/write. Then, find the item in one of the Knoppix
menus that does the switch for you. Alternatively, you can use one of
the several suggestions already made to switch to read/write using
commands at a console prompt.  This will surely involve running as
root. To become root on a console in Knoppix, find the menu item, root
console, or something like that. You do not need to know a root
password.

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Re: Web server Partitions

[Andrew Malcolmson]

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 17:12:08 +1300, Edward Murrell wrote:

> The first thing I'd look at doing is moving the default webpage to a
[ Edward's advice on partitioning the web server}

I also have a server with 6 SCSI drives and a hardware RAID controller. It
will be a web server initially but eventually will be a light-load
database and shell server also.  Should all the paritions be included
into one RAID volume or is there any reason to put some partitions
(/tmp? /?) on a non-RAID'ed drive?






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Groundhog day (was Galeon 1.3.10 on sid (ppc)

[Clive Menzies]

Hi

Sorry to re-post but I'm really stuck (I've been reduced to reinstalling
woody on another partition, just to be able to function).

To recap, using aptitude, I installed Galeon 1.3.10 (which seems to run
although there were some errors reported on installation).  My problems
started when I tried to remove it because of the errors reported.  If I
try to hold it, aptitude tries to reinstall it.  If I try to remove it,
it reports that it is so broken that it needs to be reinstalled before I
can remove it.  And if I try to reinstall it (it is flagged for upgrade)
I get:

Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ...
dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `galeon' missing,
assuming package has no files currently installed.
82818 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace galeon 1.3.10-3 (using
.../galeon_1.3.10-3_powerpc.deb) ...Unpacking replacement galeon ...
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
Ack!  Something bad happened while installing packages.  Trying to
recover:
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Press return to continue.

Frightening what ? ;) I tried manually removing the Galeon files but that 
didn't get me far either.

I upgraded to sid with some trepidation, given my relative inexperience
with Linux and Debian (I've only tried Debian) but I was beginning to
find woody a bit limiting.  Am I out of my depth here? "Oh yes he is",
they cried ;)

If someone could advise me how to expunge Galeon, I may be able to make
progress ;)

Thanks

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Mouse moves FUNNY

[Gruessle]

My mouse is acting funny, jumping not doing what it supposed to do at
all.
Something with the install is wrong I guess, where should I start to
look

BTW I like to thank everybody
5th installation and I got it working I GOT IT WORKING the video card
that is.


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Re: XP-LINUX Dual Boot

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

And thus we see that Abhay Watwe said, :
Hi:
Hi Abhay,
I have a Dell Dimension 8300 which came preloaded with XP on the first hard
drive.  I added a second hard drive and installed Debian Woody on it.  I
installed LILO with MBR on /dev/hdb1 which is my / partition.  The machine
does not have a floppy drive, so I rebooted and used the Debian CD to boot
into linux in rescue mode.  Then I used the following command to create a
linux.bin file
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/linux.bin bs=512 count=1
I remember these instructions from a website that I used once. You 
should modify this line to indicate your MBR for linux i.e. /dev/hdb1. 
So instead of just using the line from the site; modify it to look like:

dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=/linux.bin bs=512 count=1
  ^^^
And it should now work. Let me know if that worked. Good luck!

Thanks
 You are most welcome.
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Re: Mouse moves FUNNY

[Antony Gelberg]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:42:06AM -0800, Gruessle wrote:
> 
> My mouse is acting funny, jumping not doing what it supposed to do at
> all.
> Something with the install is wrong I guess, where should I start to
> look
> 
> BTW I like to thank everybody
> 5th installation and I got it working I GOT IT WORKING the video card
> that is.

Am I the only one thinking troll?  If it is, it's a great one.

A

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Re: Mouse moves FUNNY

[Kent West]

Gruessle wrote:

My mouse is acting funny, jumping not doing what it supposed to do at
all.
Something with the install is wrong I guess, where should I start to
look
 

This is nearly always a protocol problem. The answer depends on if 
you're running gpm or not; I'll assume you're not.

Run

 dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

and tinker with the mouse settings (imps/2 vs autops2 vs ms vs etc etc etc)

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Re: Can't get this crontab entry to work

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:22:43AM -0800, David wrote:
>  12 8 * * * tar -cf /lin2/backup_deb_`date +%m%d%y` /home /etc /var/www
> 
> 
>  I keep getting the following error message in my mailbox from cron:
> 
>  /bin/sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``'
>  /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> I was able to run the cron job without the time stamp, but now I really
> would like to add it and I don't seem to be having much luck.  I think
> its the backtics that are giving me the problem.

No, it's the percent signs, which are special in crontabs. See 'man 5
crontab' and search for %.

Try this instead:

  12 8 * * * tar -cf /lin2/backup_deb_`date +\%m\%d\%y` /home /etc /var/www


By the way, your Mail-Followup-To: line is broken:

  Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  debian-user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

You probably need to set the 'from' variable in ~/.muttrc to your full
e-mail address rather than just "david".

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Re: right kernal for AMD

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 03:56:15AM -0800, Gruessle wrote:
> 
> 
> How do I find out what the right image is for a AMD 700?
> 
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4
> apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686
> 
> 386, 586, k6 and k7 systems
> 

Don't know what cpu that is but for amd you would want the k6 kernels
for duron and k7 for athelon

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Re: fvwm 2.5.8 as Debian package

[Micha Feigin]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:03:26PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> until recently, I have been using
>  for debianing the latest fvwm
> packages.  However, since the Debian machines were compromised, I
> cannot access this directory anymore.
> 
> For this reason, I would like to ask you whether there is another
> location around where I can find the respective packages.
> 

deb http://labs.8d.com/debian/ experimental main

and its already at 2.5.9

> Thanks in advance!
> 
> wbr,
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Re: Mouse moves FUNNY

[John Hasler]

Antony Gelberg writes:
> Am I the only one thinking troll?

Sounds more like a problem with gpm to me.  Try 'killall gpm' as root.
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Re: Install confusion

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Paul Schwartz (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> Right now  I am booting from floppy because I don't want to screw up
> my legacy system [OS/2 4.52 which uses a Boot Manager and LVM. I think
> it can be sensitive to changes in boot stuff] until I have the Debian
> system working to some minimal level of completeness.

As I already wrote, you can install lilo on floppy, but use the kernel
from the hard disk It is installed in /boot anyway. This way, your boot
loader for OS/2 and other OS partitions will not be touched. This way,
booting will also be much faster.

Try

lilo -b /dev/fd0

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: xcdroast

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Gavin Seddon (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On Tuesday 16 December 2003 12:31, Andreas Janssen wrote:
>> modprobe ide-scsi
> Yes the conf file is ok, but when I run modprobe Iget
> 
>  modprobe ide-scsi
> modprobe: Can't locate module ide-scsi

That is strange. What kernel do you use? What does uname -r say?

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Re: Copy all desktop settings for a new user

[Hoyt Bailey]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 17:20
Subject: Re: Copy all desktop settings for a new user


> On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 04:41, Philipp Schulte wrote:
> > Hello,
> > lets say I have a few users (not all of them with prior GNU/Linux
> > experiance) and I want to setup a common profile for their accounts.
> > By profile I mean things like desktop-icons, desktop-theme, menues,
> > MUA-settings, browser-settings, printer ...
> 
> Hi, Phil. Here are some starters:
> 
> desktop icons: kde and gnome(>=2.4) both use ~/Desktop as the desktop.
> Drop the appropriate files in /etc/skel/Desktop to handle those icons
> 
> Openoffice: the /usr/bin/openoffice scripts use the settings in
> /etc/openoffice/ to create new oo profiles. Not sure what you want to
> set there, but that's where you should start looking.
> 
> GTK theme: create a /etc/skel/.gtkrc that contains the line "include
> /usr/share/themes//gtk-2.0/gtkrc" where =the theme you want to
> use
> 
> gnome defaults: most gnome apps use gconf (duck, Karsten's reading this
> thread :-). You'll probably want to read the gnome admin guide for info
> on setting default gconf values, especially this part:
> http://www.gnome.org/learn/admin-guide/latest/gconf-7.html
> 
> That's about all I can help you with specifically. You're likely to have
> to deal with each application (or set of applications) in its own
> special way.
> 
> -- 
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> 
Thank you Mark I'v been looking for something like that reference.
Hoyt


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How to shutdown GNOME without mouse

[Gruessle]

I need to shutdown GNOME without mouse 
but not the whole system just want to go back 
to text based linux window.

BTW how do I stop the loading of GNOME at the start-up


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hardware raid and 3ware

[Debian User]

I am interested in implementing hardware RAID on a new machine I 
am putting together. I have read a post _Hardware RAID setup_ and 
am glad that it can be done w/ modules in Debian. It looks liek 3ware 
is the way to go. I only _need_ two disks (I think). Does anyone 
have a suggestion as to card/driver selection?










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Re: hardware raid and 3ware

[Debian User]

also, I wish to use IDE drives.

At Tuesday, 16 December 2003, Debian User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
com> wrote:

>I am interested in implementing hardware RAID on a new machine I 
>am putting together. I have read a post _Hardware RAID setup_ and 
>am glad that it can be done w/ modules in Debian. It looks liek 3ware 
>is the way to go. I only _need_ two disks (I think). Does anyone 
>have a suggestion as to card/driver selection?
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Re: How to shutdown GNOME without mouse

[panda]

Gruessle wrote:
I need to shutdown GNOME without mouse 
but not the whole system just want to go back 
to text based linux window.

BTW how do I stop the loading of GNOME at the start-up


If I understand correctly u want to logout from gnome without mouse

try
Ctrl Alt Backspace
to set the machine to boot without starting X

update-rc.d xdm defaults

thanks
panda


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Re: How to shutdown GNOME without mouse

[panda]

Gruessle wrote:
I need to shutdown GNOME without mouse 
but not the whole system just want to go back 
to text based linux window.

BTW how do I stop the loading of GNOME at the start-up


Sorry the answer to the second part of the question should have been

update-rc.d -f xdm remove

panda

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Re: Iptables can't locate its modules

[Anthony Campbell]

On 16 Dec 2003, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:43:06AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I'm trying to set up iptables using kernel 2.4.23. I've installed
> > iptables and iptables-dev from testing and I've enabled CONFIG_NETFILTER
> > but all attempts to execute the iptables commands produces:
> >
> > root:~:# iptables -F
> > modprobe: Can't locate module ip_tables
> > iptables v1.2.9: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you 
> > need to insmod?)
> > Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
> >
> > Google produces various references to this problem but no solutions that
> > I can see. Should I have included other things in the kernel? Any simple
> > documentation for this?
> >
> > Or is it perhaps overkill for a standalone machine, albeit one that is
> > constantly connected to the met?
> 
> No, you need it.  I would compile iptables and associated sub-options as
> modules, rather than straight into the kernel.  That was you don't need
> to recompile if you decide to use different iptables features.
> 
> And use this to generate your script.  http://morizot.net/firewall/gen/
> It's the way forward.
> 
> A
> 

Thanks for this useful link. Meanwhile I'v managed to get iptables
running. I was using a kernel generated by a patched 2.4.22. I tried a
vanilla 2.4.23 and it worked fine.

AC


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Re: squid ? ??????????? ? ???????? ??????

[Karsten M. Self]

on Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:55:43PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ??? ? ??? ??? ? ? squid ??? ??? ???
>  ? ?? win2k

English to this list, please.


Peace.

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RE: How to shutdown GNOME without mouse

[Gruessle]

From: panda
> Gruessle wrote:
> > I need to shutdown GNOME without mouse
> > but not the whole system just want to go back
> > to text based linux window.
> >
> > BTW how do I stop the loading of GNOME at the start-up
> >
> >
>
> If I understand correctly u want to logout from gnome without mouse
>
> try
> Ctrl Alt Backspace
>
> to set the machine to boot without starting X
>
> update-rc.d xdm defaults
>

Ctrl Alt Backspace just takes me to a login screen for GNOME does not
take me out all the way to a shell (dos prompt)


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Re: How to shutdown GNOME without mouse

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:30:35AM -0800, Gruessle wrote:
| From: panda
| > Gruessle wrote:
| > > I need to shutdown GNOME without mouse
| > > but not the whole system just want to go back
| > > to text based linux window.
| > >
| > > BTW how do I stop the loading of GNOME at the start-up
| >
| > If I understand correctly u want to logout from gnome without mouse
| >
| > try
| > Ctrl Alt Backspace
| >
| > to set the machine to boot without starting X
| >
| > update-rc.d xdm defaults
| >
| 
| Ctrl Alt Backspace just takes me to a login screen for GNOME

Right.  Ctl-Alt-Backspace kills the X server, then the display manager
(gdm) spawns a new one.

| does not take me out all the way to a shell

It will if you started X via 'startx'.  If you have a display manager
installed and running, then you will see the results above.

Press Ctl-Alt-F[123456] to go to one of the 6 virtual consoles that
are initialized at boot time.  Then press Ctl-Alt-F7 to go back to the
X display.

If you don't want X started at all on boot up, then remove the gdm (or
xdm, wdm, or kdm) package.

| (dos prompt)

No (MS-)DOS on Unix!  :-)

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