Re: not in sid yet? - CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:40:08 -0500 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: GF> On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 19:40, bruce edge wrote: GF> > Looks like this is only available in woody: GF> > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-24.html GF> > http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-382 GF> > http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-383 GF> > GF> > Is there no fix for sid yet? GF> GF> What do you mean, it has been fixed in the current version of ssh GF> (3.6.1p2-9) The days they were announced there were fixes available GF> (4 hours if I remember properly) (2 version increments in short GF> order) I think he means that there is no mention of Sid (nor Sarge) in any of the advisories, but only Woody. DSAs let up to the user (well, more like apt-get) to find patched versions for test and unstable. Why? >From http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing : Q: How is security handled for testing and unstable? A: The short answer is: it's not. Testing and unstable are rapidly moving targets and the security team does not have the resources needed to properly support those. If you want to have a secure (and stable) server you are strongly encouraged to stay with stable. However, the security secretaries will try to fix problems in testing and unstable after they are fixed in the stable release. Also there: Q: The version number for a package indicates that I am still running a vulnerable version! A: Instead of upgrading to a new release we backport security fixes to the version that was shipped in the stable release. The reason we do this is to make sure that a release changes as little as possible so things will not change or break unexpectedly as a result of a security fix. You can check if you are running a secure version of a package by looking at the package changelog, or comparing its exact version number with the version indicated in the Debian Security Advisory. So you don't need openssh 3.7.1 to be safe (from this, at least). Now, I'm new to Debian, I'm "unstabling" my system (so far, not good ;-), and would like some clarification, so please tell me if true, nil or void: 1. There are no "formal" security fixes for testing and unstable. 2. So the usual securing method is to wait for a patched or new version to get to your apt mirrors. 3. Even if you apt-get testing/unstable fixes from debian.org, fixes for stable will be well before in security.debian.org. 4. With how much difference? Hours or days? 5. Where are equivalents of debian-security-announce for testing/unstable? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i keep getting e-mails from Mailer Daemon
Hi.keep getting e-mails from a MAILER DAEMON, sayin that an e-mail that i sent out didnt go through, i looked in my mail sent box and it was full of Sent mail with a subject i never heard of sent to over 40 people..i never sent these e-mails, i want it to stop and i dont how to make it stop, so if u could help me it would be greatfully appreciated Thank You Erica Keresey
i keep getting e-mails from Mailer Daemon
Hi.keep getting e-mails from a MAILER DAEMON, sayin that an e-mail that i sent out didnt go through, i looked in my mail sent box and it was full of Sent mail with a subject i never heard of sent to over 40 people..i never sent these e-mails, i want it to stop and i dont how to make it stop, so if u could help me it would be greatfully appreciated Thank You Erica Keresey
i keep getting e-mails from Mailer Daemon
Hi.keep getting e-mails from a MAILER DAEMON, sayin that an e-mail that i sent out didnt go through, i looked in my mail sent box and it was full of Sent mail with a subject i never heard of sent to over 40 people..i never sent these e-mails, i want it to stop and i dont how to make it stop, so if u could help me it would be greatfully appreciated Thank You Erica Keresey
Re: Disaster recovery help, please
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:18, stan wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:58:31PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 18:03, stan wrote: --snip-- > > > So, given that I was using liol, what should I do to restore the boot > > > blocks? > > > > Once you've copied the data back onto the new drive just boot from a > > rescue disc or a Debian install disc and re-run lilo. In the case of the > > Debian install disc (Woody), you'll want to do either: > > > > rescue root=/dev/yourrootpartition > > > > or > > > > rescbf24 root=/dev/yourrootpartition > > > No, it's a 2.4 serries. > > BTW, the disk is resiserfs formated, does that represent a problem? Nope. Just make sure to use the rescbf24 image as that has built-in reiserfs support. (The regular 2.2 series kernel used with "rescue" doesn't have reiserfs support) > The reason I want to do it this way, rather than a reinstall is, I hade > pretty much the last version of Gnome 1.4, which I really love, and I > _HATE_ Gnome 2 so much I will probably dfect to the KDE camp eventually. There were a few things that really annoyed me with the transition from 1.4 to 2, but they've all pretty much been addressed by now. And 2.4 adds some really nice touches. I'd suggest giving 2 another shot, but if you're sure you don't want to I know quite a few people are really fond of KDE. Or you could try the minimalist approach and just use a bare-bones wm. :) > Thanks for the help, I geuss this is a weekend project. The only thing that should really take any time is copying the data onto the new drive. Once that's done, you're looking about... hmm... 50 seconds of work. (Depending on how fast your PC actually boots up. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: how to do a clean upgrade without losing packages?
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:26, Kenward Vaughan wrote:
> I believe most of your concern is unjustified, as packages tend to get
> reorganized over time or replaced by appropriate alternatives (renamed,
> etc.). There may be some which no longer exist, but I don't {know
> if | believe} they would be excised for that reason. You might check the
> contents of some of the packages being removed against the unstable
> distribution to see whether they exist in an alternate .deb (which you
> should then find is in the new list to be downloaded). This can be
> done at Debian's web site.
>
> One thought is whether you know of other packages dependent on those
> listed. If so, what are their new (Sid) dependencies, and are those
> met in your upgrade?
Kenward is right in saying that generally speaking most of the
deletions, etc, are probably done for a good reason. It's definitely
worth taking the time to check which packages are being removed. It's
possible that their functionality is just being integrated into a
pre-existing package.
But to answer your original question, if you don't want any
additions/deletions done, what you want is:
apt-get upgrade
This will only upgrade those packages that can be upgraded without
requiring removing or adding packages.
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Re: freelance sysadmining - other thread went bonkers
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:41:19 -0800, Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:27:17AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:47:41 -0800 (PST), > > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > com>: > > > > ..sure, but Vikki also plans to sell customized boxes. > > On these, I would sell Sarge. > > And charge extra for anything else. > > What? Arnt doesn't have a bizarre comment about disemboweling oneself > > with a hash pipe? Or shooting Cheech and Chong in the kneecaps for > war crimes? ..knee cap shooting _would_ be a war crime. Seppuku however, is the traditional samurai sentence served for "things" like war crime. ;-) > I have truly accomplished something by make Arnt say "I'm staying out > of that; it's too wierd." :-) ..dope abuse _can_ be viewed as 'seppuku wanna-be for sissies'. ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text processing help (sed?)
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 15:03, BruceG wrote: > Hey all, not a Debian specific question. I am working with some CSV files. > Daily extracts. I was able to combine them all with cat, then yank out the > records I needed and popped then in a smaller file using grep. Finally > yanked duplicates using sort < file | uniq -d > > Now comes the hard part. Each record begins with the date and hour. When I > graph a month's worth of data, the graphs get nuts, so I want to remove > specific entries from each line. Specifically, I want to replace the entry > with a comma. A sample of the file is below: > Date,TargetName ifIndex IfDescr,AvgIn,AvgOut,MaxIn,MaxOut --snipped sample data-- > How would I replace 10/17/2003 1:00 with a , ? I need to hit each day of > the month, and I only want to show the text for 10/**/2003 0:00, 8:00, > 16:00. The rest I want to use a , to show an empty cell. You're right in your subject, sed is the tool to use. sed 's/10\/17\/2003 1:00/,/' inputfilename Or you could optionally just pipe the output of the operations creating the output in the first place to the above without "inputfilename". If you want to do something more detailed, I'd suggest you read up on regular expressions and then construct your own based on what exactly you need. Note that in the above example I used exactly what you said. That is REPLACED the date with a comma. So the string will have one more comma than it did before. If you wanted to just remove the date without actually inserting a comma, just pull the comma out of the above command. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
dpkg_apt
hey joe, on your question of ' which pkm' i only can answer (again) go: do your research: so this circle closed itself too. start p.e. with apt how-to by gustavo noronha silva: very useful. and, for me, apt is good enough. especially the time after wilmer van der gaast advised me to 'leave' caldera and step up to debian about a year ago. debian is far from perfect of course but i am still delighted about the strict logical mathematical build-up. so my advice to you: do something about yourself and discover again how positive it is to do honest work and find then the solution to a problem yourself. steef >>>Kernel updates go in pretty quickly, as a rule. wireless-tools is up to > > date in testing, and linux-wlan-ng is only a fraction behind unstable. >> >>> > >>> > Why isn't it showing me these? > >> >> Kernel package names change, therefore package management tools don't >> upgrade them automatically, which is probably a good thing for kernels. >> Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. The really funny thing about this whole topic is that we've now come full circle. Read the subject line. I am asking what package manager I should use, because apt-get doesn't seem to handle it well. You are telling me to use a different package manager. I had that answer before I started this thread. Which one? -- Joe Rhett Chief Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!
also sprach Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.14.0505 +0100]: > You're way behind. 4.13b-16 was the last upload by the previous > maintainer. It was hijacked with the -17 upload. But that's what I find in unstable... I don't get it... How do I get the latest version... to recap: # sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy a2ps [...] a2ps: Installed: 4.13b-16 Candidate: 4.13b-16 Version Table: 4.13b+cvs.2003.09.20-1 0 99 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch testing/main Packages 98 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch unstable/main Packages 99 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages 98 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages *** 4.13b-16 0 700 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch stable/main Packages 700 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status wait, i kinda get it. the CVS version pushed it out. Does anyone per chance have 20.1 or later in /var/cache/apt/archives? Please upload to ftp.madduck.net/incoming, I would be eternally grateful! -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Ron Johnson wrote: --snip-- > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > 45 years. Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? Maybe with enough people, there will be enough of us "maturing" to achieve critical mass? Or we're all completely off and have no idea what will actually happen. :) (I'd put my money on the latter. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: upgrading packages that are in use, especially X or gnome
On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:36, Tom wrote: > I know you don't need to reboot after you apt-get upgrade, but I'm a bit > curious about upgrading packages that are in use. > > I knowly vaguely that the kernel allows you to replace executables that > are in use so "it all works", but I have questions. > > *Services like cupsys or inetd seem to stop, do a clean replace, and > restart, during an upgrade, so they always upgrade cleanly (except for > not being availble during upgrade). Correct? > > *Things like X or gnome-applications which may be running during an > upgrade do get upgraded, but until you restart those applications, the > old versions are running, and your settings files could potentially get > hosed if the upgrades are radical. So basically you need to exit and > restart X if gui-ish things in use are upgraded. Correct? > > *Some libraries are static-linked, so if they are upgraded, no running > binaries are affected. (Only next time you compile a program). > Dynamically linked libraries require your apps to be restarted. > Correct? > > What I usually do is see what's upgraded, and if many running things are > upgraded, I log out of everything and then log back in, but I never > reboot. Is this the right thing to do, or is it unnecessary? I always log out and log back in just in case after an upgrade. In regards to the config file updates, most programs generally only read the configuration file at startup, so changing the config file won't affect the running process. The few programs that actually check their config files at various points during run time, I'd imagine the package maintainers would account for in some way or another. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 20:58, David Palmer. wrote: > [snip] > > Until we mature enough as a species to assume the full > > responsibility of > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > 45 years. ..9B more is manageable, and easier if mankind shares its wealth. 20B more, would be a "handful" on this planet. This will not happen, as sharing a good life etc means mankind volonteers to back off on breeding, capping the population at I guess 15B, and easing it down to the long term sustainable 10B. ..carrying on like we do now on old fashion European combustion technology and stolen oil, it'll peak at 8 to 12B and drop to 5 to .2B in the next 2 decades, or if Bush stays in power, in his next term, I'm guessing he and the RRR will try make their crusade nuclear, to avoid war crime trials and death row. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound and Audio CD mounting problems
Does anyone know why I cannot get Debian to mount an audio cd? It will mount cd's normally and it will play mp3's from a cd. When I try to mount an audio disk though with:- mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom it first requests a file type - so I amend the command to:- mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom Whereupon it says that it is unable to mount this ... ! Any clues? Also can anyone advise on why the volume is VERY low - I tried turning up xmms's volume but its still very quiet. Is this a card issue? Thank :) _ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:08:15AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Ron Johnson wrote: > --snip-- > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > > 45 years. > > Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million > monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? Maybe with > enough people, there will be enough of us "maturing" to achieve critical > mass? Or we're all completely off and have no idea what will actually > happen. :) (I'd put my money on the latter. :) I recently discovered a couple of great sites: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#antiquitatem This one sounds like "Argumentum ad antiquitatem", or the "that's the way it's always been" fallacy. Or, as they say in the Stock Market: "past performance does not predict future results" :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading packages that are in use, especially X or gnome
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:12:14AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:36, Tom wrote: > > I know you don't need to reboot after you apt-get upgrade, but I'm a bit > > curious about upgrading packages that are in use. > > > > I knowly vaguely that the kernel allows you to replace executables that > > are in use so "it all works", but I have questions. > > > > *Services like cupsys or inetd seem to stop, do a clean replace, and > > restart, during an upgrade, so they always upgrade cleanly (except for > > not being availble during upgrade). Correct? > > > > *Things like X or gnome-applications which may be running during an > > upgrade do get upgraded, but until you restart those applications, the > > old versions are running, and your settings files could potentially get > > hosed if the upgrades are radical. So basically you need to exit and > > restart X if gui-ish things in use are upgraded. Correct? > > > > *Some libraries are static-linked, so if they are upgraded, no running > > binaries are affected. (Only next time you compile a program). > > Dynamically linked libraries require your apps to be restarted. > > Correct? > > > > What I usually do is see what's upgraded, and if many running things are > > upgraded, I log out of everything and then log back in, but I never > > reboot. Is this the right thing to do, or is it unnecessary? > > I always log out and log back in just in case after an upgrade. In > regards to the config file updates, most programs generally only read > the configuration file at startup, so changing the config file won't > affect the running process. The few programs that actually check their > config files at various points during run time, I'd imagine the package > maintainers would account for in some way or another. Ah, so what I do - log out after an upgrade, unless it's obviously things that I'm not running -- is the "Right Thing". I was worried about odd applications that write to their config files at shutdown (I'm thinking especially of the more complex XML files KDE and Gnome apps seem to spew all over the place), when the format of the config file changes in a radical way. That's why, if I notice X or Gnome stuff being upgraded, I exit X before upgrading. I was just wondering if I was being overparanoid. Sounds like not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:16:33AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I understand Opera > > does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. > > Is this also a problem for Mozilla? > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/UserAgentString > > The user-agent string has been the source of many of the Web's worst > ills. It's strongly encouraged that it be done away with in a way > that encourages better practices from site authors. > > [...] I've found an example of a problem apparently caused by the UserAgentString check. I recently switched to Mozilla-firebird, and found that after the switch, amazon.com wouldn't recognise my password (kept on the local machine by mozilla). When I changed the UserAgentString to plain Mozilla using the User Agent Switcher, everything worked. I've written to amazon suggesting they change their ways; we'll see what happens. -- Martin Hillyer | -o) Powered by Debian GNU/Linux (sarge w/kernel 2.4.22) |/\ Communications by mutt-1.5.4i | _\_v -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4.22-3 panic in woody / ide bug?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:14:43AM -0500, Nelson E. Castillo wrote: Subject: 2.4.22-3 panic in woody / ide bug? > > Abstract : Trying to avoid kernel panic. > > I recompiled the latest package kernel-source-2.4.22(3) (sid) with > same config of the latest kernel-image2.4.22-686. It runs > in a woody machine without problems, but in the other machine > it crashes with a kernel panic before mounting the root > file system. This second machine is running woody, and was > potato once. It was dist-upgraded and has been running fine for > more than half a year. > > The first one has a SCSI disk -Dell Server- > (works) > The other one has an IDE disk -Dell WS- > (does not work... crashes at boot). After compiling kernel-2.4.22 from Sid, I was also suprised by this panic, because kernel was compiled almost with the same config as 2.4.20. You have several options here: 1st: you may compile ide-module in kernel 2nd: As I am trying to keep everything in modules, you also may compile that option as module, but then you need to add "ide-detect" line to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and re-run mkinitrd command to recreate /boot/initrd.img-2.4.22 or reinstall kernel. PS: why it doesn't load it automagically? kernel 2.4.20 did it, without need to explicitly insmod it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound and Audio CD mounting problems
Hello max von seibold (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Does anyone know why I cannot get Debian to mount an audio cd? > > It will mount cd's normally and it will play mp3's from a cd. When I > try to mount an audio disk though with:- > > mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom > > it first requests a file type - so I amend the command to:- > > mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom > > Whereupon it says that it is unable to mount this ... ! > > Any clues? *sigh* (you really could have taken a look at the list archive) Audio CDs are not mounted because they don't have a file system. Especially they don't have an iso9660 file system. Use the player or ripping tool to play or read them. Note: If you use konqueror, you can configure the audiocd plugin to be able to access CD tracks from within the file manager. However you probably have to switch on ide-scsi emulation for IDE drives and change permissions on /dev/sg* first (changing ownership to root.cdrom and make them group-rw should work). And if you really, really want to mount audio CDs, you can install the cdfs driver (I think it is already included in Debian). It was designed to make sessions or audio tracks on CDs visible as if they were files. > Also can anyone advise on why the volume is VERY low - I tried turning > up xmms's volume but its still very quiet. Is this a card issue? Try some mixer program (kmix, aumix,...) to see what the channels are set to. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bootup hangs with nfs
Stable box with 2.4.22, has been working flawlessly for a few weeks now. Suddenly without any changing anything in the setup except for a few harmless backup scripts without any relation to nfs but only samba and not on the day before the error happened, the bootup process kept stopping at the message "Exporting directories for NFS kernel daemon". I had the nfs packages installed for testing purposes while I built the machine but did not have any shares being served when I put it to use in the current environment. fstab had no nfs entries. I did have a wrong routing entry from setting up the machine at home that came up with my LAN eth0 (no connection to the outside world) but this had been the same all the time anyway. Fortunately I could boot with the old kernel and deinstall the nfs packages. Everything is working again. But what could have happened there? Has anyone else experienced such an error coming out of nowhere? I would like to know if this is likely to happen again with nfs which I would want to install again eventually for actual use. Regards, - AvH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:19, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:08:15AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Ron Johnson wrote: > > --snip-- > > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > > > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > > > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > > > 45 years. > > > > Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million > > monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? Maybe with > > enough people, there will be enough of us "maturing" to achieve critical > > mass? Or we're all completely off and have no idea what will actually > > happen. :) (I'd put my money on the latter. :) > > I recently discovered a couple of great sites: > > http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#antiquitatem > > This one sounds like "Argumentum ad antiquitatem", or the "that's the > way it's always been" fallacy. Or, as they say in the Stock Market: > "past performance does not predict future results" :-) Are you referring to my post or the one I was replying to? I checked the two links that you provided and, assuming you were, in fact, referring to my post, I don't quite follow the logic I'm afraid. If that was the case, could you elaborate please? -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: i keep getting e-mails from Mailer Daemon
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 02:10:37 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi.keep getting e-mails from a MAILER DAEMON, sayin that > an e-mail that i sent out didnt go through, i looked in my mail sent > box and it was full of Sent mail with a subject i never heard of sent > to over 40 people..i never sent these e-mails, i want it > to stop and i dont how to make it stop, so if u could help me it would > be greatfully appreciated > > Thank You > Erica > Keresey > Swen is picking up, and now we are beginning to get this sort of thing again. Most of the time they come from AOL too. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:49:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:19, Tom wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:08:15AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > --snip-- > > > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > > > > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > > > > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > > > > 45 years. > > > > > > Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million > > > monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? Maybe with > > > enough people, there will be enough of us "maturing" to achieve critical > > > mass? Or we're all completely off and have no idea what will actually > > > happen. :) (I'd put my money on the latter. :) > > > > I recently discovered a couple of great sites: > > > > http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html > > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#antiquitatem > > > > This one sounds like "Argumentum ad antiquitatem", or the "that's the > > way it's always been" fallacy. Or, as they say in the Stock Market: > > "past performance does not predict future results" :-) > > Are you referring to my post or the one I was replying to? I checked the > two links that you provided and, assuming you were, in fact, referring > to my post, I don't quite follow the logic I'm afraid. If that was the > case, could you elaborate please? The one you replying too, I'd already deleted Ron's post. Shoulda snipped. All this talk about drugs has got me missing the good old days. I'm reading Brave New World, which apparently came out this year on Project Gutenburg. Good old Soma :-) I tell ya, if you've never had a dogbone or a football and a joint and a cup of coffee on fine spring morning, you don't know what you're missing :-) But now I've got to be all *good* Dammit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt, key bindings and debian mailing lists
Hello 'ScruLoose'! On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 07:13:31PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: I wonder whether the .muttrc is flexible enough to support something like looking for known "list" addresses when you hit r, and giving you an "are you sure?" prompt... Somehow I doubt the .muttrc file is up to that job, but it might make a nice wishlist bug or even a patch if someone felt ambitious. How about adding macro index r macro pager r to you .muttrc? It will just act as usual when only a reply seems possible and automatically do a list-reply otherwise. It even beeps once in this case ;) HTH, Flo pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 04:00, Tom wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:49:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:19, Tom wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:08:15AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 22:56, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > --snip-- > > > > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > > > > > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > > > > > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > > > > > 45 years. > > > > > > > > Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million > > > > monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? Maybe with > > > > enough people, there will be enough of us "maturing" to achieve critical > > > > mass? Or we're all completely off and have no idea what will actually > > > > happen. :) (I'd put my money on the latter. :) > > > > > > I recently discovered a couple of great sites: > > > > > > http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-tradition.html > > > http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#antiquitatem > > > > > > This one sounds like "Argumentum ad antiquitatem", or the "that's the > > > way it's always been" fallacy. Or, as they say in the Stock Market: > > > "past performance does not predict future results" :-) > > > > Are you referring to my post or the one I was replying to? I checked the > > two links that you provided and, assuming you were, in fact, referring > > to my post, I don't quite follow the logic I'm afraid. If that was the > > case, could you elaborate please? > > The one you replying too, I'd already deleted Ron's post. Shoulda > snipped. > > All this talk about drugs has got me missing the good old days. I'm > reading Brave New World, which apparently came out this year on Project > Gutenburg. Good old Soma :-) > > I tell ya, if you've never had a dogbone or a football and a joint and a > cup of coffee on fine spring morning, you don't know what you're missing > :-) But now I've got to be all *good* Dammit Actually, I haven't and I therefore don't. And thanks for those links. I just got done reading both. Some very interesting fallacies listed, especially on the Atheism Web one. And speaking of fallacies: You don't know what you're missing This carries the implication that the topic at hand is in some way good. But I could just as validly state that, "If you've never been shot in the head with a shotgun you don't know what you're missing!". Because, really, you wouldn't know what you were missing until after you'd experienced it. :) Or to go at it from a different angle, asserting that something is great while under the influence of something that makes EVERYTHING seem great tends to dilute the assertion. Now, if you can take an extremely potent downer; one that will make you suicidal and make everything around you seem terrible, and THEN still state that it's great, well THEN you're lending at least a bit of extra strength to your statement. :) As if we weren't OT enough to begin with, I come along and OT the OT thread. :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:41:25AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > Does anyone per chance have 20.1 or later in /var/cache/apt/archives? > Please upload to ftp.madduck.net/incoming, I would be eternally > grateful! You know about snapshot.debian.net, don't you? -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
printing all of command executed in a script
Hi all.
As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands
executed in a shell script.
(because after a while, I always forget all of commands hided in scripts at all.
)
For example, if I have the following file named 'script',
-- contents of a file --
ls -l | awk '{print $5}'
-- end of file --
and would invoked in command line like below,
$ ./script
want to display something like
== ls -l | awk '{print $5}' ==
312
312
123313
31232
1233
12213
Thanks in advance.
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Re: LAN setup
Hi. I'm not quite sure, but I think you need an acess point - a device similar to hub for 'copper' LANs. I don't think two wireless LAN cards can talk to each other directly (although, as I said, I am not quite sure). Regards, Adam On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Japox wrote: > I have just recently bought a DELL inspiron 500m which has a wireless > card built in... how do i get two of the same type notebooks to get > wireless LAN... > > > JAPOX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nessus portscan takes loooooong
Hi folks! I decided it was about time I ran anoth full Nessus attack against my main server, especially now that my workstation is running Sid, so I get the latest nessus. However, the initial portscan takes an extremely long time... Actually, I haven't seen it finish, because I had to turn my computer off at night... :-) But something like 10 hours, it seems like it would need to do a portscan... WTF? There's is a progress bar, it moves this slow. It is just a normal portscan using nmap, that's what nessus starts with, isn't it...? Something that usually would take like, 6 minutes... Looking at the network load of the server, the first 6 minutes or so of the process, it is high, but the after that, there seems to be no abnormal traffic. Anybody else seen something like this? Cheers, Kjetil -- Kjetil Kjernsmo Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReiserFS => corrupted files after lockup
I've had this problem some days before only I didn't know exactly what it was : http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200311/msg01129.html I don't know why this keeps happening to me, but my computer freezed (for a reason that I don't know) and from that moment it keeps locking. I found out that this was due to a corrupted file problem that I had. Before the first lock up, a program was a accessing a particular file. After reboot, whenever I launch this program, it tries after a little while to access this file and my computer hangs (completely, nothing to do about it, I haven't yet enabled the ATL+PrintScreen "shortcut"). I made a ls in the directory, I got something like " : no permission". I logged in as root, same problem. After my small adventure (see link above) I know now what to do, and have (this time) the tools to do it. (if u read the discussion above, I decided to reinstall so now I have three partitions /var /home and /). The problematic file is in /home. I have the reiserfs tools in / so I'll try later tonight to see what I can do (don't have my pc here...). There are 2 things I would like to know : 1) Why is this ever happening ? Aren't journaling fs supposed to be preventing such things instead of causing them ? I read something (in the kernel-source-2.4.22 bug report page, where a user with JFS had the same problem (I've posted mine there too, since I think it must be a serious bug)) about flushing the journal, what is this exactly ? 2) Is there anything I can do for this ? Upgrading to a higher version of the kernel (2.4.22-3 now, maybe try 2.4.22-?? the last stable one from kernel.org) ? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing all of command executed in a script
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > executed in a shell script. 'set -x' Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing all of command executed in a script
Hi.
Try a 'script' utility (man script). This will write all that apears on
your terminal to a file which can be viewed or printed or whatever. Simply
type 'script', run your own script (oops, it could be wise to rename your
own script ;-) and when it finishes type ^d (CTRL-d). Then you'll want to
print a file named 'typescript'.
Regards,
Adam
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003, Akira Kitada wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands
> executed in a shell script.
> (because after a while, I always forget all of commands hided in scripts at all.
> )
>
> For example, if I have the following file named 'script',
>
> -- contents of a file --
> ls -l | awk '{print $5}'
> -- end of file --
>
> and would invoked in command line like below,
>
> $ ./script
>
> want to display something like
>
> == ls -l | awk '{print $5}' ==
> 312
> 312
> 123313
> 31232
> 1233
> 12213
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
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"Error Running kbd-chooser" while installing sid
I am trying to install sid on my P-IV machine. I downladed the sid-i386-1.iso from the following link: http://ntu.debian.org.tw/debian-unofficial/sid/sid-i386-1.iso When I boot this CD and give "linux bf24" (as I want ext3 support) at boot prompt, the "Choose language" menu works fine but when the "Detect a keyboard and select layout" option is selected it gives the following error: Error running kbd-chooser An errot or warning message was logge while running the kbd-chooser Segmentation fault kbd-choosher's postinst exited with status 35584 With this selectoin the installatin processes does not proceed. CAn anybody help me out. Thanks J S Sahambi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up XDM to automatically login one user?
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:19:24PM -0600, Lance Simmons wrote: > I've got Debian running on an old tablet computer, and I'd like to have > it start an X session for me as soon as I boot up. (There's only one > user, me.) The xdm manpage is mysterious to me; does anyone know how to > do what I'm seeking? I read this paragraph, and decided I should dissuade you from attempting this, but then... > Currently, xdm seems to require a keyboard to log in, but I mostly use > this machine with only a stylus. Better it just automatically logs me > in and starts an X session for me. ...hmm, now that is an interesting situation. This might help: Get the keyboard app xvkbd (there's a debian package for it). Edit the kdm/xdm file Xsetup, add the line /usr/X11R6/bin/xvkbd & to the end, just before exit 0. When you start kdm/xdm next you should see a keyboard. http://linux-tablet-pc.dhs.org/howto.html -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: migrating /home to a new partition
Jacob S. wrote: much good advice. Just a couple little tips that might make things easier: Once you're satisfied that everything's on /new_home, "rm -r /home" (Note: there's no turning back after you enter that command... double and triple check that things are like you want before you delete the old /home), If you have enough space on your root partition (assuming that's where /home was) to leave the original /home directory and files around for a while, you can just # mv /home /home.old # chmod 0 home.old before you # mkdir /home That will keep the files around, but prevent anything from using them. It can also be done without using a boot floppy/cd, but it's a lot harder because you are deleting files that might be in use currently for any users that are logged in, etc. The use of a boot floppy/cd is strongly recommended! # telinit s will bring the system to single user mode and shut down most services. # lsof | grep /home will tell you if any processes have files open in /home (you might need to apt-get install lsof) # telinit 2 will bring it back up to multi-user mode That's one of the (many) nice things about Linux -- you rarely need to reboot for normal maintainance. Randy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: LAN setup
im sure that if theres a way to configure one to, in a sense "crossover" it might work. Best Regards, Ken Gilmour You may be beautiful but they're keeping my idea on file. Registered Linux User # 330371 http://counter.li.org Replying to the message sent by Adam Galant on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:58:30 +0100 (CET), received at 11:27:27 on 14/11/2003. Adam Galant wrote: >Hi. > >I'm not quite sure, but I think you need an acess point - a device similar >to hub for 'copper' LANs. I don't think two wireless LAN cards can talk to >each other directly (although, as I said, I am not quite sure). > >Regards, > >Adam > > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Japox wrote: > >> I have just recently bought a DELL inspiron 500m which has a wireless >> card built in... how do i get two of the same type notebooks to get >> wireless LAN... >> >> >> JAPOX -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!
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Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong
> However, the initial portscan takes an extremely long time... Actually, > I haven't seen it finish, because I had to turn my computer off at > night... :-) But something like 10 hours, it seems like it would need > to do a portscan... WTF? There's is a progress bar, it moves this slow. > > It is just a normal portscan using nmap, that's what nessus starts with, > isn't it...? Something that usually would take like, 6 minutes... The duration of an nmap varies greatly dependant of the timing policy you use. For example paranoid (-T0) leaves 5min between two scans, resulting in roughly 350 (approx. number of services in /etc/services) * 5min ~= 29 hours. > > Looking at the network load of the server, the first 6 minutes or so of > the process, it is high, but the after that, there seems to be no > abnormal traffic. > > Anybody else seen something like this? I don't know about this, though. I don't use nessus myself, so perhaps it has actually nothing to do with the timing-policy at all... HTH, Johannes -- "More than machinery we need humanity" -- Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: LAN setup
On Friday 14 November 2003 06:27, Ken Gilmour wrote: > im sure that if theres a way to configure one to, in a sense "crossover" it > might work. > > Best Regards, > > Ken Gilmour > You may be beautiful but they're keeping my idea on file. > > Registered Linux User # 330371 > http://counter.li.org > > Replying to the message sent by Adam Galant on Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:58:30 +0100 (CET), received at 11:27:27 on 14/11/2003. Adam Galant wrote: > >Hi. > > > >I'm not quite sure, but I think you need an acess point - a device similar > >to hub for 'copper' LANs. I don't think two wireless LAN cards can talk to > >each other directly (although, as I said, I am not quite sure). > > > >Regards, > > > >Adam > > > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Japox wrote: > >> I have just recently bought a DELL inspiron 500m which has a wireless > >> card built in... how do i get two of the same type notebooks to get > >> wireless LAN... > >> > >> > >> JAPOX Your cards should have 2 options for communicating - infrastructre mode and ad-hoc mode. Infrastructure is where your laptops talk to a wireless access point on a LAN. Ad hoc is where your two laptops talk to each other wirelessly. Check the manuals that came with your wireless cards *or with your laptop if the cards are built in). The manual should be able to tell you how to set up in ad hoc mode. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, I know this has been covered to death.. If I get all the common files for xf86, but yet still don't have an xf86config-4 file on my system..then I'm obviously missing something..just can't figure what it is, as all the basic necessities seem to be there.. man this debian is beating me like a rug... It's the stable version as gotten by deselect..ver 3.0.1 I believe.. Any thoughts or obvious things I'm missing..more info needed by me I'm sure..lol Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing x
Ok, I know this has been covered to death.. If I get all the common files for xf86, but yet still don't have an xf86config-4 file on my system..then I'm obviously missing something..just can't figure what it is, as all the basic necessities seem to be there.. man this debian is beating me like a rug... It's the stable version as gotten by deselect..ver 3.0.1 I believe.. Any thoughts or obvious things I'm missing..more info needed by me I'm sure..lol Lee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wireless LAN in place of existing cabled one
On Thursday 13 November 2003 20:15, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Op do 13-11-2003, om 02:12 schreef BruceG: > > > > > For the wireless bridge to work, it would need to connect to a WAP > > (wireless access point). Since your Server is upstairs, you could do > > something like this (assuming your cable or DSL is dropped off with an > > Ethernet connection, not USB): > > > > DSL line in to providers DSL Router/modem (with an Ethernet port, not > > USB!) ---> Ethernet port to a wireless router - Linksys BEFW11S4 costs > > $69.99 at Amazon.com. Check out the Broadband forums. Linksys forum is > > here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/equip,16 > > The router has 2 "connections". An Ethernet port to your DSL > > modem > > A wireless connection for your home LAN > > > > > >V > > Linksys WET11 upstairs. $84.88 at Amazon.com > > > > The WET11 bridge has an Ethernet port for your PC, or > > connect it to a hub or switch to serve multiple PCs. > > > > A couple notes: The Wireless router can serve multiple wireless clients. > > You can connect a couple wireless bridges to it, or a wireless bridge and > > also support laptops with wireless cards. My WAP54G supports a bridge and > > a cardbus card. The wireless stuff I support a church has 2 WET11 bridges > > connected, a total of 5 PCs bridged in. It can support additional > > wireless clients. > > > > 802.11B is 10 MBPS. 802.11G can go to 54MBPS. You may be limited by > > distance. I figure since my DSL connection is 256Meg or so - 10 Meg is > > okay on the LAN side, although it can get slow doing backups over > > wireless. > > > > I'm sure D-Link can do the same using the a wireless router downstairs > > and a wireless bridge upstairs. > > If i understand correctly, i could install a wireless router just behind > the cable modem, plug in such a wireless bridge in eth0 of my server, > and keep the rest of the network like it is namely: eth1 of the server > connected to a hub and my pc ( pc1 ) also connected to the hub. This > would provide internet access to both the server and pc1. Right? > The eth0 would off course not receive a public ip anymore although that > would be cool if it could be done. > And this wouldn't require me to config anything in linux then? > > If i want to make sure that all future traffic (laptops or pc not in the > same room as the hub) goes via the hub, could i plug in a wireless > access point in the hub and redirect all traffic via that access point > instead of directly through the router? > > Benedict The wireless router would get it's IP address and DNS servers from your ISP. It would connect directly to your DSL modem using it's WAN port. The wireless router would serve as a dhcp server for clients off it's LAN port. Your server (and all PCs) would talk through the wireless router. If you want to continue using your server as a dhcp server, proxy server, ... - you would use a wireless access point (a WAP). If you use a WAP, your existing LAN would still communicate as it does now. All you would be doing is replacing your LAN cable between floors with a wirless drop. Check out the broadband forums (do a google on broad band forums). The folks on the forums can tell you exactly what you need and how it works. I can tell you what I use and have configured and how that works - which may be slightly different. By the way - I am using: A Linksys BEFSX41 router (had this when I was going wired) A Linksys WAP54G(for wireless clients, it "bridges" wireless clients into the wired LAN) A Linksys WET11 bridge(for wirelessly bridging in a small wired LAN upstairs) A Linksys 54G CadBus card (for my wife's laptop) You would skip the Linksys router part and continue using your server as the router. That would mean you would need a WAP and a bridge (or a wireless card that works in your server - the bridge is MUCH easier to set up and gives a greater distance). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing x
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I know this has been covered to death.. If I get all the common files for xf86, but yet still don't have an xf86config-4 file on my system..then I'm obviously missing something.. I assume that's just lazy typing up there. You won't have an "xf86config-4" file on your system; you should however have an "XF86Config-4" file, if everything has been configured properly. Running "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common" and/or "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" should, in most cases, create the "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" file for you. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prelinking in sid
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Re: Installing modem.
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 21:16 Subject: Re: Installing modem. > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I tried minicom as I remember I reported the results the first time they > > were the same this time. I started KDE and selected the terminal read the > > man page for minicom not much help there. issued su and input the password. > > input minicom -c, got 1/2 screen (top to bottom full 1/2 wide)with a colored > > panel at the bottom. The only thing that worked was right clicking on the > > items at the bottom (they showed menus that wouldnt do anything). Finally > > reset and tryed again this time minicom -s and got the same 1/2 screen B/W > > with options A thru F. Typing a thru f resulted in going to that option on > > screen. Changing the option had no effect. There was also a box below that I > > couldnt get into that had some options including Exit. Could not do anything > > except reset. > > > > That doesn't sound like the minicom I just looked at, but then I'm > running unstable. > > >>>fancypiper: > >> > >>>Make sure that plug-n-pray is disabled in your bios as it can screw up > > > > your settings. > > > > > > Couldnt find an entry in BIOS for plug-n-pray or for plug-n-play either. > > Isnt that a Windows function? > > No; well, yes. Sort of. Not really. No. Definitely no. > > It's a name popularized by Microsoft (perhaps invented by MS) that > simply refers to the ability of the operating system (Windows in the > case of MS) to set the hardware resources, such as COM ports and IRQ > settings, etc, automagically for your various hardware. It was a much > bigger deal in the days before PCI devices became popular. Nowadays the > PCI subsystem takes care of PnP, for the most part. Still, many BIOSes > have the option to turn the feature on or off. If the BIOS is told that > there is a PnP OS, then the BIOS does just the minimal setup necessary > and lets the OS do the rest. IF the BIOS is told that there is not a PnP > OS, then the BIOS does all the hardware setup. It has been my experience > that it's best to let the BIOS handle things, even if you have a > Plug-n-Play-capable OS. > > > >>># cat /proc/pci > > > > My system returned the following: > > Bus 0, device 11, Function 0 > > Serial Controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModom Model 5610 (rev 1) > > IRQ 19 > > Master capabile, latency=32 > > I/O at 0xd000 [0xd007] > > > > > >>>With this info, I use the setserial > >>>command: > >> > >>># setserial /dev/ttyS0 irq 5 port 0xc400 uart 16550a > > > > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 19 port 0xd000 uart 16550a > > bash: setserial command not found. > > It would appear that there is a package I dont have installed. Does anyone > > know what the package would be? Would that package also contain minicom? > > setserial > They are separate packages. See "apt-cache show setserial" and > "apt-cache show minicom". > > I though setserial is part of the base OS and is installed > automatically. I guess not. > > > > > > > > >>>Then I test the modem with the internet > >>>connection wizard and it works. > >> > > > > ?What is the internet connection wizard? > > It's some utility in whatever distro he was using. For you, you'd use > KPPP or pppconfig, etc. > > -- > Kent > I did some more research this morning and the above isnt accurate. While it is what I experienced in KDE login as me and su to root. I ran minicom -s on the command line, as root, after reading the rather extensive manual (much more than one page). I was able to setup the modem dont know if it is right though. After exiting the setup I was in a screen that said, as the last line, cntl A-Z for help. No matter what I did it was not possible to even move the cursor. Cntl C or D also didnt do anything. Finally reset the system to get out. I did reissue the setserial command as listed and it appeared to work. That probable means that KDE is bad. Could this be happening because most of these programs were installed before the "nvidia" driver was installed? Regards; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "BIOS Legacy USB Support"-emulated USB keyboard works in text-mode but not in X
On Thursday 13 November 2003 13:08, Jørgen H. Seland wrote: > (As a footnote: I'd like to keep the "BIOS legacy keyboard" option > activated, as I need it to manipulate the BIOS settings, and attaching a > PS/2 keyboard involves dismantling the machine. Just opting for a normal > USB HID solution is therefore not an option.) AFAIK, you don't really need the legacy support for the BIOS, the setting just determines if it is offered afterwards. -- Got Backup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Night mare to set day light savings time
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 08:00:46PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > David writes: > > I have a CST6CDT in this directory, but it doesn't show up in tzconfig > > (unless you choose SYSV). (I hope it changes OK next spring). > > Please file a bug report. Would this be in tzconfig? IIRC, it didn't show up (in an intuitive place, at least) while in woody. Where _should_ it show up? Let's see.. IIRC when going into tzconfig, if you first choose your continent, in my case, US, you are presented with certain cities, none of which produce CST6CDT. Some may do automatic DST, but it's not often you get to check it out, unless you fake the date. I believe the SYS directory had been added in testing, and wasn't there in woody. IIRC, when I was using Mandrake, tzconfig was just as unintuitive. It may be a problem with upstream. I suppose one could manually point to the top-level CST6CDT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was Re: migrating /home to a new partition
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:11:27 + Randy Orrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jacob S. wrote: > much good advice. Just a couple little tips that might make things > easier: > > > Once you're satisfied that everything's > > on /new_home, "rm -r /home" (Note: there's no turning back after you > > enter that command... double and triple check that things are like > > you want before you delete the old /home), > > If you have enough space on your root partition (assuming that's where > > /home was) to leave the original /home directory and files around for > a while, you can just > # mv /home /home.old > # chmod 0 home.old > before you > # mkdir /home > That will keep the files around, but prevent anything from using them. > > > It can also be done without using a boot floppy/cd, but it's a lot > > harder because you are deleting files that might be in use currently > > for any users that are logged in, etc. The use of a boot floppy/cd > > is strongly recommended! > > # telinit s > will bring the system to single user mode and shut down most services. > # lsof | grep /home > will tell you if any processes have files open in /home (you might > need to apt-get install lsof) > # telinit 2 > will bring it back up to multi-user mode > > That's one of the (many) nice things about Linux -- you rarely need to > > reboot for normal maintainance. > > Randy > thanks to all of you. it seemed a trifle risky initially but turned out just fine. thanks to your combined help the migration has been achieved. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Millions of monkeys (Re: Opium)
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Familiar with the theory of (I might be off on the numbers) a million > monkeys, typing on a million typewriters for a million years? That might be about enough to crack a single 64 bit secret key, assuming each monkey takes a little more than a second per key. Jürgen -- Jürgen Stuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.loria.fr/~stuber/ > rot 13 "fr" "se" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Error Running kbd-chooser" while installing sid
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 04:34:49PM +, J.S.Sahambi wrote: > I am trying to install sid on my P-IV machine. I downladed the > sid-i386-1.iso from the following link: > http://ntu.debian.org.tw/debian-unofficial/sid/sid-i386-1.iso You mean you downloaded *a* Sid ISO. Why you wasted your time doing that, I have no idea and will not speculate. > Error running kbd-chooser > > With this selectoin the installatin processes does not proceed. CAn > anybody help me out. Sid is not guaranteed installable at any given time. Contact whoever is responsible for the unofficial disc images you are using regarding whether it is possible to use their product to install from. -- Marc Wilson | stab_val(stab)->str_nok = 1; /* what a wonderful [EMAIL PROTECTED] | hack! */ -- Larry Wall in stab.c from the perl | source code -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt, key bindings and debian mailing lists
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:10:25AM +0100, Florian Ernst wrote: > How about adding > macro index r > macro pager r > to you .muttrc? > > It will just act as usual when only a reply seems possible and > automatically do a list-reply otherwise. It even beeps once in this > case ;) This is beautiful - does exactly what I was attempting to do. Thanks :-) -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge Netinstall ISO
Yesterday, I downloaded the following image: http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/sarge-i386-netinst.iso Burned the image to CD using Xcdroast, CD refuses to boot. The CD will mount and read properly. Tried another self-burned bootable CD (different image) and it booted with no problem. Burned the first Sarge image at 32x, tried again and burned it at 24x. No help. Running pure Debian Woody on a 500 Mhz AMD K6 with 256 MB ram, Samsung 48-24-48X cdwriter. My system uses ide-scsi installed by discover. Larry -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing modem.
Hoyt Bailey wrote: I did some more research this morning and the above isnt accurate. While it is what I experienced in KDE login as me and su to root. I ran minicom -s on the command line, as root, after reading the rather extensive manual (much more than one page). I was able to setup the modem dont know if it is right though. After exiting the setup I was in a screen that said, as the last line, cntl A-Z for help. No matter what I did it was not possible to even move the cursor. Cntl C or D also didnt do anything. Finally reset the system to get out. I did reissue the setserial command as listed and it appeared to work. That probable means that KDE is bad. Could this be happening because most of these programs were installed before the "nvidia" driver was installed? Regards; Hoyt The modem is totally unrelated to the video driver. KPPP may not be working, but that's a very small part of KDE, so it would be inaccurate to say that KDE is bad. When in minicom, if it's talking properly to the modem, you should be able to enter a command like: ATZ and your modem will respond with something like OK or READY If you don't get such a response, something is still wrong with your modem/configuration. I wish I could give you more information, but I'm not that familiar with modems. I don't like dealing with modems, especially ones that aren't external on COM1 or COM2, and so avoid them whenever I can. All I can suggest is keep trying. -- Kent -- Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: gnome installation help
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 00:09 Subject: Re: Re: gnome installation help > Edward, thanks for trying to help, I know I wasn't > very specific. > > I've successfully installed Debian 3.01 woody with the > 'vanilla' option on a Dell Precision 410 workstation. > Everything works at the command line, apt-get update, > apt-get upgrade, anything. > > However, I've tried with several video cards, both AGP > and PCI. s3 Virge, Diamond Fire GL1 (the original to > the machine), etc. Nothing seems to work!! > > I guess I'm looking for a specific set of apt-get > install commands. I've tried numerous times, most > recently with: > > apt-get install x-window-system-core > > then > > apt-get install sawmill-gnome > > I've run xf86config numerous times. Nothing seems to > work. > > How do I invoke Gnome?? xinit? Every time I reboot I > get to the command line or xserver cannot start. > > I really want to run a Linux desktop, but this is very > frustrating. Any good tutorials online (I haven't > found any!)? > > Brett > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree > Suggestion pick a video card go to the Mfg. website and see if they have a linux driver for that card. Try again if there is no driver you can use. Regards; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Prelinking in sid
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:30:21PM +0200, Ilkka Lindroos wrote: > I'm new to all this prelinking stuff. I installed the prelink package, > but is that all I have to do? Are the any problems I should be aware > of? I know nothing of prelinking, but a quite look at the package and it appears that you may want to take a look at it's README.Debian file: $ less /usr/share/doc/prelink/README.Debian -- Jamin W. Collins To be nobody but yourself when the whole world is trying it's best night and day to make you everybody else is to fight the hardest battle any human being will fight. -- E.E. Cummings -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
want to undo apt-pinning
I had a debian stable system that was running well. Then, I wanted to
try out some parts of the unstable packages, but without fully going
to unstable. So I followed instructions for apt-pinning at
http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
and installed some packages via e.g. "apt-get -t unstable install
foo".
But now, the C library has been replaced, and I'm having problems
starting some applications, and I have decided that I want to
downgrade back to stable. How can I clean all unstable packages from
my system, and go back to stable? Is there way dpkg can tell whether
a package came from {stable, testing, unstable}? Or can I do that
somehow with apt?
Thanks,
--
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Re: not in sid yet? - CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 01:54, Chema wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:40:08 -0500 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GF> What do you mean, it has been fixed in the current version of ssh > GF> (3.6.1p2-9) The days they were announced there were fixes > available > GF> (4 hours if I remember properly) (2 version increments in short > GF> order) > So you don't need openssh 3.7.1 to be safe (from this, at least). Correct, the whole idea behind "Stable" or Woody... is the Packaging and versions stay compatible and consistent... therefore "STABLE" few changes as possible, Maintenance Mode (Bug and Security Fixes, NO new features). > Now, I'm new to Debian, I'm "unstabling" my system (so far, not good > ;-), and would like some clarification, so please tell me if true, nil > or void: "Testing" or Sarge as it is called right now, is the Next Version of Stable to be released. Reason it is called testing, is just that people are testing it to make sure it is good enough to become "Frozen" which in and of the word mean, Serious Flaw, Bugs and Fixes are the only changes that can be made... some exceptions if the features are deemed very needed can be made.. but over it is a setting of versions and features into Wet Clay... allowing for changes still but only fixing things version NEW designs or such. "Unstable" or Sid (as it is always called) is not "Unstable as a Linux Distribution" I personally have a Sid machine that has an uptime of 4 months right now... it is uptodate (with a 2.4.20 Kernel) and works flawlessly... I update it every day. The "Unstable" terms the package listing that is available, on any given day there could be hundreds of updates to Sid... take a look at http://incoming.debian.org. Those are the changes submitted in the last few day/(or weeks sometimes). I had a Sid machine I updated yesterday, hadn't touched it for 6+ weeks. 879 packages update, 82 newly installed, 24 removed (due to repackaging) and 4 held. THAT is what "Unstable" is all about. > 1. There are no "formal" security fixes for testing and unstable. Correct. Nothing formal about them... although testing was supposed to have them. It has just not really been needed. If you really are worried about security on Sid or Sarge... you know how and where to get your "fix". > 2. So the usual securing method is to wait for a patched or new > version to get to your apt mirrors. Debian Archive updates are a continuous thing, the Master shoves stuff out to the Push Mirrors(which are [ ht |f ]tp.XX.debian.org) then the leaf mirrors usually check often, then pull the stuff down to themselves. The process of acceptance from incoming on these things is usually very short for Sid. It may take a week or more to get promoted to "Testing"... once again.. if you really are worried, you really shouldn't be running Unstable if you don't know where to get the fixes. > 3. Even if you apt-get testing/unstable fixes from debian.org, fixes > for stable will be well before in security.debian.org. Indeed, Stable *IS* the priority. If it isn't fixed within hours(typically) or even sometime minutes... something is gravely wrong with the security fix and takes a bit more work to get it right. > 4. With how much difference? Hours or days? Typically, for a simple fix... could be as few as the minutes it takes for the maintainer to compiled and upload. On the other hand, if Stable is a long fix... could be that Unstable could be as long. But it might be fixed as soon as Stable due to the backport causing trouble. Typically though, you are usually looking at minutes to a couple of hours. > 5. Where are equivalents of debian-security-announce for > testing/unstable? There really is nothing for Testing or Unstable. Just reference the Debian Advisory. And subscribe to Debian-Devel... Comments from Developers usually are right on the money... and can help out with the wondering. Overall, if security is you number one "paranoid" issue (it is for me) then you either stick with Stable or Discover where it is that you need to get your fixes ASAP. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Your beautiful bulgarian bricks stack like the thousand eyes of Estonian potatos, peering amid fuzzy dreams of corrugated cardboard. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Night mare to set day light savings time
I wrote: > Please file a bug report. David writes: > Would this be in tzconfig? File the bug against libc6. > Let's see.. IIRC when going into tzconfig, if you first choose your > continent, in my case, US, you are presented with certain cities, none of > which produce CST6CDT. Some may do automatic DST, but it's not often you > get to check it out... They all do DST if appropriate for the jurisdiction. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: want to undo apt-pinning
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:22:54AM -0500, Benjamin Rutt wrote:
> I had a debian stable system that was running well. Then, I wanted to
> try out some parts of the unstable packages, but without fully going
> to unstable. So I followed instructions for apt-pinning at
>
> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
>
> and installed some packages via e.g. "apt-get -t unstable install
> foo".
(snip)
> How can I clean all unstable packages from
> my system, and go back to stable? Is there way dpkg can tell whether
> a package came from {stable, testing, unstable}? Or can I do that
> somehow with apt?
You might try setting your stable priority to 1000 or more and the
perform a dist-upgrade. If I'm not mistaken, this will attempt to
revert your system to stable only since the priority is over 1000.
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and day to make you everybody else is to fight the hardest battle any
human being will fight. -- E.E. Cummings
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Re: want to undo apt-pinning
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On Friday 14 November 2003 06:22 am, Benjamin Rutt wrote:
> I had a debian stable system that was running well. Then, I wanted
> to try out some parts of the unstable packages, but without fully
> going to unstable. So I followed instructions for apt-pinning at
>
> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
>
> and installed some packages via e.g. "apt-get -t unstable install
> foo".
>
> But now, the C library has been replaced, and I'm having problems
> starting some applications, and I have decided that I want to
> downgrade back to stable. How can I clean all unstable packages from
> my system, and go back to stable? Is there way dpkg can tell whether
> a package came from {stable, testing, unstable}? Or can I do that
> somehow with apt?
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Benja
You can do 'apt-get install libc6/woody'. I think that is the right
syntax, it was posted on this list not to long ago. It will downgrade
the libraries, didn't do 'locales' or any of the other depends that
came with the original upgrade of libc6, I did those the same way,
hopefully remembering what they all where. If you use the '-s' option
with apt-get (apt-get -s install xxx) it will show you what is going to
happen witout actually installing aything.
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nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1
Dear Sir, I have an NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440] video card that worked fine with the nvidia-glx_1.0.4191-1_i386.deb that I got from Justin A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s web page about nine months ago. Now, during a routine update/upgrade cycle, the package nvidia-glx_1.0.4496-2.1_i386.deb maintained by you was installed but I could not get X up after that. Accordingly, I manually downgraded by going to /var/cache/apt/archives and using dpkg -i to install the previous version. I have two questions: (1) Why does the new version not work? (2) How can I prevent the newer versions from ever being installed, if (1) cannot be fixed? I have in /etc/apt/preferences the lines: Package: nvidia-* Pin: release v=1.0.4191-1 Pin-Priority: 1000 but they do not seem to work. Can you help please? Many thanks. --Chandra 15 Nov 03 -- Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Adjunct Senior Lecturer M018, Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems (CIIPS) School of Electrical, Electronic and Computer Engineering The University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley, WA 6009, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-9380-3749 Fax: +61-(8)-9380-1168 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CRICOS Provider Code: 00126G -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dvd ripping tools
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:40:11 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 17:23, Kevin Coyner wrote: > > I need to (legimately) rip a few 30 sec clips from some DVD's > > where I truly own the rights. The 30 sec clips will be used > > on our website where we advertise the DVD's for sale > > (bicycling workouts - spinervals.com for those interested). > > > > Could someone please suggest: [...] > > 2. a tool for browsing and then editing the ripped portions > > into 30 sec clips > > I think avidemux does this but I am not sure. I looked quite a > bit for good programs under linux to do this but couldn't find > any. Would be happy to hear of such. avidemux can do that. You can edit and save without reencoding (simple frame copy) or you can edit and reencode. With the first you don't lose any more quality, but you run a greater risk of producing a video that will be unplayable by players other than mplayer or will have serious audio/video sync problems. http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text processing help (sed?)
Hi Bruce,
awk is a quite powerful tool for that sort of thing.
Its basic structure is
/pattern/ {action}
i. e. it reads a line from the input file and if the line matches /pattern/ it
does {action} (e. g. write the line to output or write "," instead).
It is described very well in the manpage.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:03:58PM -0500, BruceG wrote:
> Hey all, not a Debian specific question. I am working with some CSV files.
> Daily extracts. I was able to combine them all with cat, then yank out the
> records I needed and popped then in a smaller file using grep. Finally
> yanked duplicates using sort < file | uniq -d
>
> Now comes the hard part. Each record begins with the date and hour. When I
> graph a month's worth of data, the graphs get nuts, so I want to remove
> specific entries from each line. Specifically, I want to replace the entry
> with a comma. A sample of the file is below:
> Date,TargetName ifIndex IfDescr,AvgIn,AvgOut,MaxIn,MaxOut
>
> 10/17/2003 0:00,10.2.1.101 127 10/100 utp ethernet (cat
> 3/5),0.12,0.04,0.18,0.05
>
HTH
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Re: Text processing help (sed?)
- Original Message -
From: "Joachim Fahnenmueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Text processing help (sed?)
> Hi Bruce,
>
> awk is a quite powerful tool for that sort of thing.
>
> Its basic structure is
> /pattern/ {action}
> i. e. it reads a line from the input file and if the line matches
/pattern/ it
> does {action} (e. g. write the line to output or write "," instead).
>
> It is described very well in the manpage.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:03:58PM -0500, BruceG wrote:
> > Hey all, not a Debian specific question. I am working with some CSV
files.
> > Daily extracts. I was able to combine them all with cat, then yank out
the
> > records I needed and popped then in a smaller file using grep. Finally
> > yanked duplicates using sort < file | uniq -d
> >
> > Now comes the hard part. Each record begins with the date and hour. When
I
> > graph a month's worth of data, the graphs get nuts, so I want to remove
> > specific entries from each line. Specifically, I want to replace the
entry
> > with a comma. A sample of the file is below:
> > Date,TargetName ifIndex IfDescr,AvgIn,AvgOut,MaxIn,MaxOut
> >
> > 10/17/2003 0:00,10.2.1.101 127 10/100 utp ethernet (cat
> > 3/5),0.12,0.04,0.18,0.05
> >
>
> HTH
> --
> Joachim Fahnenmüller
>
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> # your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Thanks Joachim - I'll check out the manpage.
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Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 20:58, David Palmer. wrote: > > [snip] > > > Until we mature enough as a species to assume the full > > > responsibility of > > > > It hasn't happened in the last 100k years, what makes you think > > it will happen when there are 10x as many people now as there were > > 100 years ago, and there will be another 6-9B people in the next > > 45 years. > > ..9B more is manageable, and easier if mankind shares its wealth. Every time wealth sharing has been tried, society has suffered. "Man" is not designed for such altruism. > 20B more, would be a "handful" on this planet. This will not happen, > as sharing a good life etc means mankind volonteers to back off on > breeding, capping the population at I guess 15B, and easing it down > to the long term sustainable 10B. It was tried in the PRC, which has the muscle and neighborhood spies to enforce it. Still, it didn't work. > ..carrying on like we do now on old fashion European combustion > technology and stolen oil, it'll peak at 8 to 12B and drop to 5 to .2B Let me ease your mind: that oil is *not* stolen. Even heard of OPEC? It does *not* cost anywhere *near* $30/bbl to get crude oil out of a Saudi Arabian well and onto a tanker. More like $5. > in the next 2 decades, or if Bush stays in power, in his next term, > I'm guessing he and the RRR will try make their crusade nuclear, RRR? > to avoid war crime trials and death row. Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA 4 degrees from Vladimir Putin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
drwright (gnome break-manager) dissapeared
Hi, I use the 'drwright' program to force me away from the screen every hour or so. I have been using it fine for the last couple of months in sid until today, when installing some gnome package or other forced its removal. I attempted to re-install it (not bothered about the other app) and it has dissapeared. No entry at packages., no bugs at bugs., gone altogether! Does anyone know what happened to it? -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
openoffice.org and ispell
Hi there, I have tried to install openoffice, but it wouldn't peacefully coexist with ispell and related dictionaries; it "conflicts" with them - I am quite anxious to know why on earth. Has anyone had similar trouble? Is there any way to get ispell and openoffice to coexist with one another? I mean I do appreciate there is a suite such as OO, but I'm not so amused it intends to stomp over everything else there is. I think on a SuSE installation (where I installed OO the anarchic way; some .tgz archive that installed itself), neither program frowned upon the very existence of the other on the disk. So might this simply be an over-strict formulation of interdependencies and the like? Any help appreciated! Florian PS. Don't know whether this is relevant, but I tried packages downloaded as instructed on http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/openoffice.org.html, and my distribution is woody stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) First off, my advance apologies for a bit of rambling; I'm quite tired, overly caffeinated, and coming off a very long work-week. That being said... To be honest, I doubt the Europeans would have to; they just need to stay out of our way as we self-destruct. The U.S. is, sadly, heading along the merry path of the Roman empire. I'd wager that in less than a century, you will see the birth of a true theocracy within the U.S., with a very well-defined caste system (serfs of the state/wage slaves, civil servants, warriors/military personnel, and the ruling/business elite). You can already see portions of this framework forming; the masses shop at the same stores, purchase the same shoddy goods, listen to the same music, and are only very superfically differentiated. Most Americans are undereducated, ignorant of most of the world, and indifferent towards learning *anything* new. The only things that matter are expensive shiny toys and gossip. Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can vote, but the elections will be rigged, with no paper trails and no accountability. The gap betwen the rich and poor has been growing at an astronomical rate, and public education is quickly reaching a point where only those lucky and/or smart enough emerge from high school with even the most elementary grasp of the arts, sciences, or of the English language; my father used to teach a 'computer basics' class to high-school freshmen, and many of them were almost completely illiterate. Drop-out rates have been increasing exponentially, and with the rising cost of higher education, fewer students can afford to attend college. Compounding this is the fact that blue-collar work is generally frowned upon by Americans, which has resulted in us having a horrible lack of trade and technical schools. For those wealthy enough to attend college, many will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because they lack the impetus, drive, and determination to pursue a more difficult degree. Within a century, I'd say that the U.S. will be a country much like the one outlined in 'Higher Education' by Charles Sheffield, with a largely illiterate, ignorant, and blissful populace, an incredible overabundance of lawsuit-happy lawyers, useless public schools, and a 'fortunate' ruling elite who are the keepers of knowledge and power. It's sad, very sad, but I don't see much that gives me hope things will happen any other way. On the upside, those with the brains to move themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. -- Don Werve Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#
> So much for the topic at hand... in general: fear not. > It's part of the Linux learning process that one learns where to pick up > information. man, info, /usr/share/doc/, www... google is your friend, > but google is not the be-all and end-all of everything. > Especially if you what you're looking for can't easily be phrased as a > search term, or scores far too many hits. I've been using Linux since 0.7x kernels, so you can skip the patronizing. Last time I checked, some of my patches were still in the driver sources for various adapters. The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do than search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right places' to get Debian applications were listed on the debian homepages, this wouldn't be necessary. (more on this below) > > > Wrong: > > http://source.backports.org/debian/dists/woody/mozilla/binary-i386/ > > > has mozilla 1.5. > > > > How is one to find this? I didn't find a link to that site anywhere > > > www.apt-get.org -- I wish I'd found out about that site a lot sooner > that I actually did. Your bookmarks ain't complete without it. I _WAS_ searching on apt-get.org and that's where I found that 1.4b4 was the latest one showing. The only firebird showing at the time was .5 .. I know this isn't your fault, but this is starting to become silly. I like Linux, but I don't install it in production environments because I prefer to get work done, rather than keep spinning in circles with stuff. Many people have tried to tell me how great the Debian package management stuff is, but I really ain't seeing it. Everything is still hack-it-yerself and live your life through Google. -- Joe Rhett Chief Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isite Services, Inc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing modem.
- Original Message - From: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 08:45 Subject: Re: Installing modem. > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > >I did some more research this morning and the above isnt accurate. While it > >is what I experienced in KDE login as me and su to root. I ran minicom -s > >on the command line, as root, after reading the rather extensive manual > >(much more than one page). I was able to setup the modem dont know if it is > >right though. After exiting the setup I was in a screen that said, as the > >last line, cntl A-Z for help. No matter what I did it was not possible to > >even move the cursor. Cntl C or D also didnt do anything. Finally reset > >the system to get out. I did reissue the setserial command as listed and it > >appeared to work. That probable means that KDE is bad. Could this be > >happening because most of these programs were installed before the "nvidia" > >driver was installed? > >Regards; > >Hoyt > > > > > The modem is totally unrelated to the video driver. > KPPP may not be working, but that's a very small part of KDE, so it would be inaccurate to say that KDE is bad. > > When in minicom, if it's talking properly to the modem, you should be able to enter a command like: > ATZ > and your modem will respond with something like > OK > or > READY > > If you don't get such a response, something is still wrong with your modem/configuration. > > I wish I could give you more information, but I'm not that familiar with modems. I don't like dealing with modems, especially ones that aren't external on COM1 or COM2, and so avoid them whenever I can. All I can suggest is keep trying. > > -- > Kent > > > > -- > Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Ok thanks for trying. I'm not convinced that the hang up of minicom is unrelated yet. Regards; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian for enterprise
A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. If the group were to consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that was previously being done by the RH engineers? The FAI package can duplicate the functionality of kickstart, but security is of primary concern. I need some specifics to argue in favor of adopting Debian, and what exactly it would entail. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sendmail question
Hi , All the incoming mails comes to Debian Linux box and get s forwarded to Exchange server for distribution. IF the MS exchange server is down for few hours then what happens to the mail ?? If Linux box keeps it then how long it can keep the mails ?? Will there be any disk space issue for the incoming mails ?? What should I do in such case. Any help is appreciated. Thanks -- Vivek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!
martin f krafft([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > also sprach Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.14.0505 +0100]: > > You're way behind. 4.13b-16 was the last upload by the previous > > maintainer. It was hijacked with the -17 upload. > > But that's what I find in unstable... I don't get it... How do I get > the latest version... to recap: > > # sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache policy a2ps > [...] > a2ps: > Installed: 4.13b-16 > Candidate: 4.13b-16 > Version Table: > 4.13b+cvs.2003.09.20-1 0 > 99 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch testing/main Packages > 98 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch unstable/main Packages > 99 http://ftp2.de.debian.org testing/main Packages > 98 http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main Packages > *** 4.13b-16 0 > 700 http://sunsite.cnlab-switch.ch stable/main Packages > 700 http://ftp2.de.debian.org stable/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > wait, i kinda get it. the CVS version pushed it out. Does anyone per > chance have 20.1 or later in /var/cache/apt/archives? Please upload > to ftp.madduck.net/incoming, I would be eternally grateful! Dare I say, google is your friend. a2ps_4.13b-20_i386.deb found many sites on the first page. Wayne -- Computers follow your orders, not your intentions. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On the upside, those with the brains to move > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have in the streets, bullets don't distinguish Ph degrees. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On the upside, those with the brains to move > > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have in the > streets, bullets don't distinguish Ph degrees. PhDs and brains don't go hand-in-hand; part of being smart is knowing how to work within whatever cultural limitations you must; in the case of firearm-owning Americans, you just need to be smart enough not to not get on their bad side. Social engineering at its most useful. -- Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: openoffice.org and ispell
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 19:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I have tried to install openoffice, but it wouldn't peacefully coexist > with ispell and related dictionaries; it "conflicts" with them - I am > quite anxious to know why on earth. It certainly doesn't do that. I guess you must have misread something somewhere. It does conflict with the older myspell format packages, but has nothing to do with ispell. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh-agent
On Saturday 08 November 2003 3:17 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > it's pretty bloody useful, particualarly if you're using ssh > either locally or to remote systems. > > - Generate an ssh key: 'ssh-keygen'. Provide a password. > > - Add the contents of the '*.pub' files to remote hosts you plan on > sshing to. See: > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/GNU/Linux/FAQs/sshrsakey.html > > - After starting X, from any terminal window, run 'ssh-add'. Type > your password when prompted. > > > Now: if you need to start a shell, or run a command, on a remote > system, you can do so without having to type your password. > Naturally, you'll want to secure your local system so Dr. Evil can't > exploit this. > > E.g.: > > ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ...or if you want to run a command on a bunch of hosts: > > for host in eenie meenie meinie moe; do ssh $host uptime; done > > > If you ever find yourself administering a cluster of hosts, or using > a number of remote systems, this is invaluable. > > There are other tricks (forced commands) for running specific > commands without even requiring an ssh-agent, say, for cronjobs and > the like. > > > ssh is highly valuable because it provides a secure, encrypted, > authenticated, non-spoofable means of issueing commands or data > between hosts. It's used not just for shells and commands but for > file transfers in the form of scp, sftp, and rsync. See also the > fish:// protocol (implemented in lftp, for example). ssh replaces > telnet and rsh, for the most part transparently, both of which are > highly insecure protocols. > > > I'd strongly recommend you leave ssh installed. Could be most > useful. > Thanks for this, but unless I actually use ssh (or anything else) surely it's best to remove it? I don't log in to remote machines, except for logging in to various web pages from time to time. Unless ssh does something in the background while I am doing this, or while I am downloading stuff from such sites, (please put me right if it *does* do this - I'm still slightly unsure) I'd simply rather not leave it lying around. But your email is filed away in case I do start using it, so thanks again. Cheers, Geoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:14, Joe Rhett wrote: > > So much for the topic at hand... in general: fear not. > > It's part of the Linux learning process that one learns where to pick up > > information. man, info, /usr/share/doc/, www... google is your friend, > > but google is not the be-all and end-all of everything. > > Especially if you what you're looking for can't easily be phrased as a > > search term, or scores far too many hits. > > I've been using Linux since 0.7x kernels, so you can skip the patronizing. > Last time I checked, some of my patches were still in the driver sources > for various adapters. > > The point I was making is that most of us have better things to do than > search more than 5 pages of google hits. If the 'right places' to get > Debian applications were listed on the debian homepages, this wouldn't be > necessary. (more on this below) All of the "right" places already ARE listed on the Debian homepage. Sites like apt-get.org list all UNOFFICIAL packages which may very well kill your entire system or worse. Hence, they are intentionally NOT listed on debian.org. Also, I don't believe Christian was trying to be patronizing. He may have been incorrect in assuming that if you didn't know that much about Debian that you also didn't know that much about Linux, but the advice he gave was good none the less. Though I must say I'm extremely curious how you managed to use a 0.7x kernel that never existed. The last release of the kernel after 0.12 was 0.95 after all. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian for enterprise
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:17:29AM -0700, Robert Soricone wrote: > A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating > to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. If the group were to > consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that > was previously being done by the RH engineers? The FAI package can duplicate > the functionality of kickstart, but security is of primary concern. I need > some specifics to argue in favor of adopting Debian, and what exactly it would > entail. Can you point me in the right direction? > > Thanks in advance > Rob > Here is an argument for community based as opposed to business model based distributions: Red Hat is abandoning its old business model because that model wasn't working for its investors. You (and everyone else) can expect other distributions that have a business model basis to also fail for the same reasons. Whatever those reasons are, they were not peculiar to Red Hat. If you want to avoid going through the transition from one distribution to another, again, you should choose a community based distribution this time. By doing so, you avoid the inevitable 'churn' in the business marketplace. Which community based distribution should you choose? I suggest you consider one to which your firm(s) feel(s) confortable making a contribution. I hope you will select Debian. Just my $.02 -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sendmail question
By default sendmail should try to redeliver every 4 hours for up to 5 days... After that it should start sending back undeliverable messages to the sender... This of course is configurable but is pretty much recommended defaults... I've not found it to be a problem for any of the many sendmail servers I admin. As for space you just need to make sure that the filesystem with the spool directory (usually /var/spool/mail by default) has plenty of available space as if it gets too full sendmail will stop accepting email completely. I tend to make sure the mail spool directory and my system logs are on seperate partitions for this reason. Regards, Jeremy On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:22:42PM -0500, Vivek Kumar wrote: > Hi , > > All the incoming mails comes to Debian Linux box and get s forwarded to > Exchange server for distribution. IF the MS exchange server is down for > few hours then what happens to the mail ?? If Linux box keeps it then > how long it can keep the mails ?? Will there be any disk space issue for > the incoming mails ?? > What should I do in such case. Any help is appreciated. > > Thanks > -- > Vivek > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Step by Steps??
Does anyone have step by steps for setting up a LAMP environment with Debian? Ive just moved from Red Hat to Debian. I don't seem to be able to find the locations of certain files needed. Right now Im stuck at trying to find the libphp4.so file. I compiled php from source and am not finding that file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Pearson
Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong
Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > However, the initial portscan takes an extremely long time... Actually, > I haven't seen it finish, because I had to turn my computer off at > night... :-) But something like 10 hours, it seems like it would need > to do a portscan... WTF? There's is a progress bar, it moves this slow. One thing to consider is that the progress bar for a nmap scan is bogus--it doesn't actually relate to the actuall progress of nmap. Nmap could have frozen, etc. > It is just a normal portscan using nmap, that's what nessus starts with, > isn't it...? Something that usually would take like, 6 minutes... > > Looking at the network load of the server, the first 6 minutes or so of > the process, it is high, but the after that, there seems to be no > abnormal traffic. Do you have udp scanning turned on? If so, running this scan against a non-windows box can literally take days! Try turning this off in the namp section of the nessus client prefrences. However, if that's not the case, I have run into this before on a couple of machines using only the nmap SYN scan. I find that if I run nmap against these machines outside of nessus, nmap spits out a ton of messages about timing problems and other debugging stuff. What I do is run nmap on *those* machines so that they're scanning themselves and turn on nmap file logging (-oN scan_results.txt.) I then copy that file to the computer that I'm running the nessus client on. Then all you have to do is tell the nessus client to read the scan results from that file (Under nmap preferences.) Also, if you're not concerned about rpc, udp, and os fingerprinting, just turn off the nmap scan and use nessus's built-in SYN and tcp connect() scans which can be faster. HTH, Brent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing modem.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:41:52PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > On Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:01, Kent West wrote: > > I thought that echoing a command to the device file was a good test, but > > someone else in this thread with the same modem as you says this test > > does not work. So ignore this test and its results. Instead, try minicom. > > I tried minicom as I remember I reported the results the first time they > were the same this time. I started KDE and selected the terminal read the > man page for minicom not much help there. issued su and input the password. > input minicom -c, got 1/2 screen (top to bottom full 1/2 wide)with a colored > panel at the bottom. The only thing that worked was right clicking on the > items at the bottom (they showed menus that wouldnt do anything). Finally > reset and tryed again this time minicom -s and got the same 1/2 screen B/W > with options A thru F. Typing a thru f resulted in going to that option on > screen. Changing the option had no effect. There was also a box below that I > couldnt get into that had some options including Exit. Could not do anything > except reset. Try switching to a text console and running minicom from there. > > >With this info, I use the setserial > > >command: > > > > ># setserial /dev/ttyS0 irq 5 port 0xc400 uart 16550a > # setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 19 port 0xd000 uart 16550a > bash: setserial command not found. > It would appear that there is a package I dont have installed. Does anyone > know what the package would be? It's called... tadaa... setserial apt-get install setserial > Would that package also contain minicom? No, minicom's a separate package which you appear to have installed already. > > >Then I test the modem with the internet > > >connection wizard and it works. > > ?What is the internet connection wizard? He's a little bloke with a pointy hat and a staff who does things like flipping bits in your telco's computer so as to enable ADSL on your phone line without the billing department knowing about it. I'd rather like to meet him. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:15:18PM -0800, Tom wrote: > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:18:34PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 04:04:57PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 11:36:29AM -0800, Tom wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:35:39PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > > > > > > > > I have mixed feelings. One the one hand, I read about China's opium > > > > wars in the 1800s, and see a failed people resulting from "legalizing > > > > it." On the other hand, I see a drug which causes people to fight, > > > > crash their cars, and beat their kids (alcohol) completely normalized. > > > > Not to be too much of a nit, but China's opium problems, and the Opium > > Wars, were mostly courtesey of the British, who were the pushers, > > dealers, and instigators of the whole affair, including the various > > skirmishes and battles. The situation back then was quite far from > > 'legalizing it', and was much closer to the way drugs move in the U.S. > > today, with foreign governments handling production and [illegal] > > distribution, and with the U.S. government fighting a loosing battle > > against them. > > That is all true. Read Terry Parssinen's "Webs of Smoke" for the gory > details. > > However, it is a blunt fact that Chinese users happily consumed the > drug (poppies from India were considered best; chinese poppies were > low-grade), and as a result, their culture, pride, and manhood were > wasted. It left a cultural mark of shame that lasts to this day. > > So the point is, maybe it's not so good for millions of people to get > high, regardless of the cause :-) I'm arguing that it's okay to do pot > only insofar as it is severely limited, by law and by cultural norms. I don't think it's valid to generalise from opium to pot. Both the addictiveness and the nature of the effects are too different. I consider it unfortunate that since they are both illegal such generalisations do tend to be made. There's something of a difference between millions of people slumped on a sofa with their mouth hanging open and the whites of their eyes showing, and millions of people with an increased tendency to be happy and a reduced tendency to go along with pomposity and bullshit. There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a worthwhile fish to come by. It doesn't prevent them from mustering the considerable skill and precision required to spear the fish. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: nvidia-glx Version: 1.0.4496-2.1
R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: Dear Sir, I have an NVIDIA Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX440] video card that worked fine with the nvidia-glx_1.0.4191-1_i386.deb that I got from Justin A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>'s web page about nine months ago. Now, during a routine update/upgrade cycle, the package nvidia-glx_1.0.4496-2.1_i386.deb maintained by you was installed but I could not get X up after that. Accordingly, I manually downgraded by going to /var/cache/apt/archives and using dpkg -i to install the previous version. I have two questions: (1) Why does the new version not work? (2) How can I prevent the newer versions from ever being installed, if (1) cannot be fixed? I have in /etc/apt/preferences the lines: Package: nvidia-* Pin: release v=1.0.4191-1 Pin-Priority: 1000 but they do not seem to work. Can you help please? Many thanks. --Chandra 15 Nov 03 -- Dr R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar Adjunct Senior Lecturer M018, Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems (CIIPS) School of Electrical, Electronic and Computer Engineering The University of Western Australia 35 Stirling Highway, Crawley, WA 6009, AUSTRALIA Phone: +61-(8)-9380-3749 Fax: +61-(8)-9380-1168 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CRICOS Provider Code: 00126G -- It looks like that website has not updated it's versions very recently, e.g. kernel 2.4.22 is not there. 496 is the latest Nvidia version, I use 363. Why don't you just download the script from the Nvidia site and run it? You'll have to apt-get the kernel-headers for your version of the kernel. Hugo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...needs help setting up x [was Re: your mail]
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:47:50PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok, I know this has been covered to death.. > > If I get all the common files for xf86, but yet still don't have an > xf86config-4 file on my system..then I'm obviously missing something..just > can't figure what it is, as all the basic necessities seem to be there.. > > man this debian is beating me like a rug... > > It's the stable version as gotten by deselect..ver 3.0.1 I believe.. > > Any thoughts or obvious things I'm missing..more info needed by me I'm > sure..lol > > Lee > > > -- > did you, as root, run xf86config (to set up x)? luck. kthxbye. b. // -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing all of command executed in a script
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > > executed in a shell script. > > 'set -x' > Thanks! 'set -[xv]' is what i want. I should more read over manuals before posting... sorry. regards, Akira -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Step by Steps??
Jeffrey W. Pearson wrote: Does anyone have step by steps for setting up a LAMP environment with Debian? Ive just moved from Red Hat to Debian. I don't seem to be able to find the locations of certain files needed. Right now Im stuck at trying to find the libphp4.so file. I compiled php from source and am not finding that file. if you know the name of the file and want to know which package this file is in goto debian.org, go to packages (left side menu) and use the last form to search for a file in debian packages. erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On the upside, those with the brains to move > > > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. > > > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have in the > > streets, bullets don't distinguish Ph degrees. > > PhDs and brains don't go hand-in-hand; part of being smart is knowing > how to work within whatever cultural limitations you must; in the case > of firearm-owning Americans, you just need to be smart enough not to not > get on their bad side. Social engineering at its most useful. There are roughly 40M handguns in this country, and quite a number of states have "right to carry concealed handgun" laws. If the vast majority of people had such a low level of self-control, we should see, for example, multiple Columbines[1] on a daily basis. Since we don't, what conclusion can we draw from this? [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a affluent family walked into their High School armed with rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away those they didn't like, whatever the reason. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "The UN couldn't break up a cookie fight in a Brownie meeting." Larry Miller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Geological tracking application
On Friday 14 November 2003 20:41, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Is anyone aware of Linux-based application capable of proving visual > geographical tracking? > > To be more specific: > We are a fishing company. Every daily we receive reports from our > vessels about their location, water temp and depth, fish caught, > weather, fuel, etc., etc. > This data is entered into a database. It would great to have an > application that could take that data and put it on a map. This way > we could track trends, perform historical analyses, etc. Interesting! > I realize there is probably nothing specifically that meets our > needs, but close enough that with a little reprogramming would, in > fact, work. I am not aware of any specific software, however, I would assume that what you want falls within the domain of Geographical Information Systems, usually abbreviated GIS. While I haven't tried any such system there are many of them available, there is a site that seems to have a comprehensive overview: http://freegis.org/ I think you will find something there that would get you started. Best, Kjetil -- Kjetil Kjernsmo Astrophysicist/IT Consultant/Skeptic/Ski-orienteer/Orienteer/Mountaineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://www.kjetil.kjernsmo.net/OpenPGP KeyID: 6A6A0BBC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
[Top-posting because Don's post is so long.] While I generally agree with you, a couple of disagreements: 1. It won't be a theocracy. 2. If drop-out rates increased exponentially, they'd "hit" 100% very soon. Rather, say "ignorance rates are increasing at an alarming rate". On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless > > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) > > First off, my advance apologies for a bit of rambling; I'm quite tired, > overly caffeinated, and coming off a very long work-week. That being > said... > > To be honest, I doubt the Europeans would have to; they just need to stay > out of our way as we self-destruct. The U.S. is, sadly, heading along > the merry path of the Roman empire. I'd wager that in less than a > century, you will see the birth of a true theocracy within the U.S., > with a very well-defined caste system (serfs of the state/wage slaves, > civil servants, warriors/military personnel, and the ruling/business elite). > You can already see portions of this framework forming; the masses shop > at the same stores, purchase the same shoddy goods, listen to the same > music, and are only very superfically differentiated. Most Americans > are undereducated, ignorant of most of the world, and indifferent > towards learning *anything* new. The only things that matter are > expensive shiny toys and gossip. > > Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can > vote, but the elections will be rigged, with no paper trails and no > accountability. > > The gap betwen the rich and poor has been growing at an astronomical > rate, and public education is quickly reaching a point where only those > lucky and/or smart enough emerge from high school with even the most > elementary grasp of the arts, sciences, or of the English language; my > father used to teach a 'computer basics' class to high-school freshmen, > and many of them were almost completely illiterate. Drop-out rates have > been increasing exponentially, and with the rising cost of higher > education, fewer students can afford to attend college. Compounding > this is the fact that blue-collar work is generally frowned upon by > Americans, which has resulted in us having a horrible lack of trade and > technical schools. For those wealthy enough to attend college, many > will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because they > lack the impetus, drive, and determination to pursue a more difficult > degree. > > Within a century, I'd say that the U.S. will be a country much like the > one outlined in 'Higher Education' by Charles Sheffield, with a largely > illiterate, ignorant, and blissful populace, an incredible overabundance > of lawsuit-happy lawyers, useless public schools, and a 'fortunate' > ruling elite who are the keepers of knowledge and power. > > It's sad, very sad, but I don't see much that gives me hope things will > happen any other way. On the upside, those with the brains to move > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. > > -- > Don Werve > > Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, > Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Knowledge should be free for all." Harcourt Fenton Mudd, Star Trek:TOS, "I, Mudd" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re:unsubscribe
The 12th of November Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me "READ THIS CAREFULLY. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE DEBIAN USER MAILING LIST:SEND and E-MAIL to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THAT MESSAGE ONLY PUT:unsubscribe" First of all thanks. Now the 11th of November I sen this: "unsubscribe De: "L.F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (TelefonicaNet) Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Martes 21:35:00 unsubscribe" The 12th of Bovember I sent this "unsubscribe De: "L.F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (TelefonicaNet) Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Miércoles 19:02:35 unsubscribe" The 13th of November I sent this "unsubscribe De: "L.F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (TelefonicaNet) Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fecha: Ayer 20:59:06 unsubscribe" And I still keep receiving hundreds of e-mails from Debian. Is it my fault Greg Folkert? It seems that it is not so easy as it appears. All the best. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:13:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > 2. If drop-out rates increased exponentially, they'd "hit" 100% >very soon. Rather, say "ignorance rates are increasing at an >alarming rate". Good point. -- Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg error SID 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
Greetings: I have been (trying) to test the new Debian installer. My goal is to get my test box up and running with current SID and then test the new 2.6 kernels. Every time I attempt to update to SID, I get this dpkg error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# agi gpm Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: gpm 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/146kB of archives. After unpacking 336kB of additional disk space will be used. dpkg: `ldconfig' not found on PATH. dpkg: `start-stop-daemon' not found on PATH. dpkg: `install-info' not found on PATH. dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 4 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# Why is this happening? I have attempted the upgrade several times and each time this is the result. Something is borked, however, I don't know what that specific something is. Help/hints wanted. TIA _ Linux.Net -->Open Source to everyone Powered by Linare Corporation http://www.linare.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Geological tracking application
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 November 2003 12:41 pm, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > Is anyone aware of Linux-based application capable of proving visual > geographical tracking? I don't know much about what exactly your requirements are, but a quick search on google linked to a few geographic-related applications/ frameworks: http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/ http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/GIS-GRASS/ - -- Wesley J. Landaker - [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP FP: 4135 2A3B 4726 ACC5 9094 0097 F0A9 8A4C 4CD6 E3D2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tTkT8KmKTEzW49IRAvsOAJ43iNEVqxRVBXtoI5hJvhiNAmSpQgCggomE HOgfIhTaDyvXP+Tbcd3WD4g= =yjEZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4.22-3 panic in woody / ide bug?
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:54:42AM +0200, Alexei Chetroi wrote: > > Abstract : Trying to avoid kernel panic. I will never forget to compile modules :) make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -custom01 \ --config oldconfig kernel_image kernel_headers \ kernel_doc modules --bzimage This was a silly issue. Sorry. -- http://geocities.com/arhuaco The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool. -- Richard Feynman. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:41:32 -0800 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 1:14 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On the upside, those with the brains to move > > > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. > > > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have > > in the streets, bullets don't distinguish Ph degrees. > > PhDs and brains don't go hand-in-hand; part of being smart is knowing > how to work within whatever cultural limitations you must; in the case > of firearm-owning Americans, you just need to be smart enough not to > not get on their bad side. Social engineering at its most useful. > Agreed. Einstein failed a maths exam, didn't see the sense in memorising multiplication tables when they were already written down. The education programme, which varies extensively with any particular environment, is initiated from approved texts. The most successful (individuals?) within the restrictions of the imposed paradigms gains the appropriate marks of social approval. Thinking outside the square and other symptoms of intelligence are looked down upon. and even derogated. The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people how to read just well enough so that they no longer need to think. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
k3b 1.0 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hallo! I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? Thanks ;) - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tT2Cok8j9RhtetwRAtL3AJ46v6uhpcYlIaPO/m/uU9Cfq1wTLQCghcbA eixJswA2KeCyKo+Ur2VWmQw= =TaWz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why can't I access my anonymous /mirror directory
I haven't used proftp for almost a year but now I tried to use it again for my local debian partial mirror. But I can't access the the "/mirror" directory anymore. I always get the error "no such file or directory". Below is the relevant part of my proftp.conf. Does anyone know the base directory which proftpd uses? It's probably a standard path but I can't find it anywhere in the docs. User ftp Group nogroup # We want clients to be able to login with "anonymous" as well as "ftp" UserAlias anonymous ftp RequireValidShell off # Limit the maximum number of anonymous logins MaxClients10 # We want 'welcome.msg' displayed at login, and '.message' displayed # in each newly chdired directory. DisplayLogin welcome.msg DisplayFirstChdir .message # Limit WRITE everywhere in the anonymous chroot AllowAll IgnoreHidden on DenyAll IgnoreHidden on O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.sourceforge.net/"; for ideas how to design your app. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
