Re: how to get 2.4.18 device driver 3c59x

[Robert William Hutton]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 08:09:40AM +0200, Tom Eugelink wrote:
> I was running kernel 2.2 and I used dselect to download 2.4.18 (binary). 
> That came with drivers for pcmcia, but nothing else, especially not for 
> my networkcards, requiring the 3c59x driver.

You'll probably need to install the correct kernel module for your
networking hardware.  The Debian binary kernel-image packages make
almost everything a module.

Use the command "modconf", and look under kernel/drivers/net.  There's a
3x59x driver there.  Once you select it with modconf, it'll be loaded at
boot, as modconf modifies your /etc/modules file.

> I downloaded the 2.4.18 kernel sources and compiled a kernel, but no 
> driver is present (and I got a way too large kernel to boot).

How did you configure the kernel?  Did you compile everything into it?
Did you use make-kpkg, which is Debian's way of building kernels?  The
easiest way to make your own kernel using Debian's tools is to use the
following sequence:

- install a kernel-source package
- untar the kernel-source bzip that appears in /usr/src.
- make a link to the dir that was created called linux (ln -s
  kernel-source-x.xx linux)
- copy the config file from /boot/ that's the right version for your
  kernel to /usr/src/linux/.config: something like "cp
  /boot/config-2.4.22 /usr/src/linux/.config".
- run make menuconfig or make xconfig to make your configuration changes
- run "make-kpkg kernel-image --initrd".

Once all of these things are done, you should find a kernel-image deb in
your /usr/src directory.

Cheers,

Robert


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Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, 
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> * Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
> > Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?

> Narrator:  By 1964, experts say man will have established twelve
>colonies on the moon, ideal for family vacations.
>[a man fishes a comely moon maiden out of a crater.  She
>winks at the audience]
>[a chart shows the difference]
>Once there, you'll weigh only a small percentage of what
>you weigh on Earth.
>[cut to a shot of a chubby boy eating pie]
>Slow down, tubby!  You're not on the moon yet!
>[cut to a shot of the moon, with an American flag
>superimposed on it.  The camera pulls back to reveal some
>men in spacesuits]
>The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the
>arrival of our astro-men.  Will you be among them?
>[fini.  The film runs off the reel]

..by human international legal etc tradition, whoever populates it
first.
The Chinese?  ;-)

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Re: Best way to combine file systems?

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:42:08PM -0700, Ross Boylan said
> Do people agree that mount --rbind is generally preferable?  (I think
> this is a well known system administration issue, but googling didn't
> turn up much).
> 
> Second, if I do that, is it possible to set up these mounts via fstab?

Yes.

> How?  

Use "bind" as the filesystem type, iirc.

> And if it is possible, is it a good idea?

Why not just mount the new disk somewhere under the original one?  This
is unix, the mountpoint will be transparent.

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 16:04:03 -0700, 
Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:57:27PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> 
> I like the way you think man!
> Highly consistent...

..excellent.  Act on it.

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Re: how do i read from memory stick, fire wire?

[LeVA]

TR írta:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:24:53 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joachim Fahnenmueller) wrote:

On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 06:04:43PM -0400, TR wrote:

I want to be able to access the pics and short movies in my memory
stick, but I can't figure out how to do it. After googling, I found
some recommendation about adding the /etc/fstab entry: /dev/sda1
etc... Well, I tried that, but when I try to mount it to its
mounting point I get the response:/dev/sda1 is not a valid device.
Does anyone have any advice out there?
Same about firewire.
Thanks.
Hi!

I have a pen drive too, and got it working. Here I'll try to write, what 
did I do, and what should you do :) (little nervous because this is my 
first "helping" post to this list :)
So..

In my case, I can access my drive via /dev/sda.
For this you must compile (CONFIG_SCSI) SCSI support -> SCSI support && 
(CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD) SCSI support -> SCSI disk support. I have compiled 
the last one as a module.

Because I connect my drive to an usb port, it needs these:
(CONFIG_USB) USB support -> Support for USB (also, I had to remove 
(CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH), Enforce USB bandwidth allocation).
 Now choose an usb host controller. If you have USB 2.0 on your 
mainboard, then should compile (CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD) USB support -> EHCI 
HCD (USB 2.0) support. If you don't have 2.0, it is safe to compile it, 
it doesn't harm your system.
 After this, choose an UHCI driver. You can select both of them 
(CONFIG_USB_UHCI) USB support -> UHCI and (CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT) USB 
support -> UHCI Alternate Driver and compile them as a module, because 
then you could try, which one is working for your system. I think the 
first (the simple UHCI) is working in most cases, and there is no need 
for the alternate driver, but I don't know what kind of mainboard you have.
 Ok, now you have usb controller drivers, you must compile one other 
thing, the usb storage support: (CONFIG_USB_STORAGE) USB support -> USB 
Mass Storage support.

Now I tell you how it's working on my system:
(Y := compiled in && M := compiled as a module)
SCSI support
  SCSI support = Y
  SCSI disk support = M
USB support
  Support for USB = Y
  EHCI HCD (USB 2.0) support = M
  UHCI = M
  UHCI Alternate = M
  USB Mass Storage support = Y
In this case, I had to add the following lines to my /etc/modules file:

sd_mod   # SCSI disk support
usb-uhci # The "simple" UHCI driver (not the alternate)
ehci-hcd # USB 2.0 driver
If the usb-uhci driver isn't working, then it is time to change the 
usb-uhci line (in the /etc/modules) to uhci , and try with the alternate 
driver.

Done. :)

Hope it is clear, and helps, and you understand it. If you have any 
further questions, please feel free to mail me.

Bye!

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Re: Best way to combine file systems?

[Ross Boylan]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 05:30:39PM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:42:08PM -0700, Ross Boylan said
> > Do people agree that mount --rbind is generally preferable?  (I think
> > this is a well known system administration issue, but googling didn't
> > turn up much).
> > 
> > Second, if I do that, is it possible to set up these mounts via fstab?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > How?  
> 
> Use "bind" as the filesystem type, iirc.
> 
> > And if it is possible, is it a good idea?
> 
> Why not just mount the new disk somewhere under the original one?  This
> is unix, the mountpoint will be transparent.
> 
I'm only mounting parts of file systems
e.g., /scratch and /usr are mounts of actual partitions.
I want /scratch/download to appear as /usr/local/download,
/scratch/foo/bar to appear somewhere else, etc.


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apt-proxy still maintained?

[Thomas Gebhardt]

Hi,

I frequently encounter problems with streaming debs from apt-proxy,
(both stable and testing/unstable) getting error messages like

MD5Sum mismatch
or 
404 File does not exist on any server

A second download is ok.

The bug reports indicate that this is a common problem and
the maintainer Chris Halls (6 Dec 2002) says that

> This should be fixed with apt-proxy version 2, which is a complete rewrite
> in Python and will enter experimental shortly.  It isn't worth the time
> trying to fix this in v1 because shell scripting wasn't really meant to do
> HTTP streaming and fixing it could take a lot of time.  

and from http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/#apt-proxy_v2 :

> Chris Halls took on apt-proxy in December 2001 to address the immediate
> shortcomings and make sure that apt-proxy would be ready for the Woody
> release.  Since then, Manuel Estrada Sainz was been working on version 2.

> Version 2 is a complete rewrite using Python and the twisted framework.
> The initial release will contain all the features of v1 plus a few extra
> goodies.  Most features are already implemented and the package is
> available as apt-proxy-v2 from the 'unstable' download area.

I have not noticed any release of the python apt-proxy v2 yet.
Apart from the mentioned flaw I'm very satisfied with apt-proxy
which helps to save a lot of bandwith. So I'd rather stay with
apt-proxy if I would have the hope that the problem is going to
be fixed.

Could anyone point me to some information about that status of
apt-proxy, or give me a hint how to fix the flaw, or recommend an
alternative?

Thanks, Thomas



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booting from a usb mass storage zip drive

[Rob Benton]

I need some extra eyes and advice for this problem I'm having.  I've got
a usb 250 zip drive that I've installed debian on.  I've been using an
initrd ramdisk to boot from that uses kernel 2.4.20.  The boot process
goes fine.  The problem is, there are 2 strange processes that continue
after boot.  One of them is writing to all the log files filling up the
disk.

Booting into another partition (on an ide drive) I can mount this drive
and none of these problems occur.  Does anyone know how to fix this or
what that process is looking/waiting for?






// logs and processes //

PROCESSES:
root15  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   02:46   0:00
[usb-storage-0]
root16  0.0  0.0 00 ?SW   02:46   0:00
[scsi_eh_1]

USBFS IS MOUNTED
/proc/bus/usb

devices:
*--snip--*
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=255ms
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#=  2 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=059b ProdID=0030 Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=Iomega
S:  Product=USB Zip 250
S:  SerialNumber=059B00300D006248
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50
Driver=usb-storage
E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=0ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   2 Ivl=32ms

drivers:
 usbdevfs
 hub
96-111: hiddev
 hid
 serial
 usb-storage


LOOPING OUTPUT IN SYSLOG:
--
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: queuecommand() called
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: *** thread awakened.
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Command READ_10 (10
bytes)
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: 28 00 00 03 aa 78 00 00
04 00 00 00
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command S 0x43425355
T 0x1516 Trg 0 LUN 0 L 2048 F 128 CL 10
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command transfer
result=0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage:
usb_stor_transfer_partial(): xfer 2048 bytes
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_msg()
returned 0 xferred 2048/2048
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage:
usb_stor_transfer_partial(): transfer complete
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result
0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW...
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status Sig
0x53425355 T 0x1516 R 0 Stat 0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: queuecommand() called
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: *** thread awakened.
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Command READ_10 (10
bytes)
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: 28 00 00 03 aa 9c 00 00
02 00 00 00
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command S 0x43425355
T 0x1517 Trg 0 LUN 0 L 1024 F 128 CL 10
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk command transfer
result=0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage:
usb_stor_transfer_partial(): xfer 1024 bytes
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: usb_stor_bulk_msg()
returned 0 xferred 1024/1024
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage:
usb_stor_transfer_partial(): transfer complete
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk data transfer result
0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Attempting to get CSW...
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status result = 0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: Bulk status Sig
0x53425355 T 0x1517 R 0 Stat 0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: scsi cmd done, result=0x0
Oct 21 22:44:22 wakizashi kernel: usb-storage: *** thread sleeping.



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Re: Best way to combine file systems?

[Toens Bueker]

Ross Boylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My partitions are filling up and I need to start
> juggling parts of my filesystem.  Although some of one
> disk is under a volume manager (LVM via EVMS), I don't
> want to fiddle with it.  Mostly this is because I don't
> want to extend the container to include a second disk,
> thereby doubling my chances of disaster and forcing me
> to keep the disks together.

It is generally not a good idea to use LVM directly on top
of a disk. You always should use LVM on top of a
RAID-System. If you use xfs as your filesystem you can
even extend your partitions while they are mounted.

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Re: Exim4 won't send mail - what does this error message mean?

[Anthony Campbell]

On 21 Oct 2003, David Jardine wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:55:13PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > I'm getting serious trouble with exim4.
> >
> > A lot of mail, incoming and outgoing, just sits in /var/log/exim4/input
> > indefinitely. This includes even messages I email to myself.
> >
> > However, some things do go out (including this, if it reaches the list).
> >
> > The relevant lines  in /var/log/messages/exim4/mainlog read as follows:
> >
> > 2003-10-21 14:47:02 1ABwqk-H3-Fu <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=ac P=local
> > S=603 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > 2003-10-21 14:47:02 1ABwqk-H3-Fu == [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > R=userforward defer (-1): bad mode (0100664) for /home/ac/.forward: 020
> > bit(s) unexpected
> 
> Have you tried changing permissions on your .forward file?

See my earlier reply; yes, this was the answer.

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Somewhat ON-TOPIC (was Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS))

[Alex Malinovich]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:17:07PM -0500, James W. Thompson, II wrote:
> Boy has this thread gone out into left/right field, however you want 
> to term it, and gotten off topic. Why do we allow ourselves to be 
> distracted and flame back and forth, completely ignoring why this list 
> exists, we're here to form a constructive dialogue and to help each 
> other solve real problems with specific systems, not argue over stuff 
> completely disconnected from this list's purpose. Nobody can ever win 
> an argument without killing their opponent physically, emotionally or 
> otherwise; and to endeavor to do such is downright immoral and 
> unethical. 

Though I haven't really participated, I personally do actually like OT
threads like this one. Go figure. :) Sure, some of the flaming can get
kind of thick at times, but it's also interesting to see some opinions
every once in a while. However, I definitely do agree that this should
NOT be on debian-user. So why don't we have a debian-ot list? Once a
thread goes OT, it just gets migrated to debian-ot, and those
interested can pursue it there while the rest of debian-user is not
inundated with it.

> P.S. - On the political side of things I am a Christian, an American, 
> and a Conservative and if anyone gives a rip about my view of
> america's 

I'm a Muslim, Canadian, Liberal! Die scumbag!!! :) Sorry, couldn't
resist. :) (And I'm none of the above.)

p.s. To actually contribute something that's ON-TOPIC, I'd suggest
that in the future you consider snipping irrelevant parts of an old
email in your replies. That way we don't have to see all of an old
message when, in fact, your comments may only deal with a small
fragment of it. Also, when you reply, please do not top-post, but
rather include your reply AFTER the quoted text you're replying
to. This is a 'standard' that has, unfortunately, been steadily losing
ground due to Microsoft's decisions with their mail clients.

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Re: cdrecord problem recording audio CD

[Rohan Nicholls]

At Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:42:07 +0200,
Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 06:10:25AM +0800, csj wrote:
> > cdrecord -dao speed=8 dev=0,0,0 *.wav
> > 
> 
> Can someone tell me what this -dao option does? I have never used it,
> and IIRC older versions of cdrecord didn't have it. Before writing this,
> I read the manpage but I didn't understand it.

Please anyone correct me if I am wrong, but IIRC dao is disk at once,
which both writes to the disk and closes it so you can't write to it
again. 

What the practical difference between the two is I am not sure, but I
think it is like flipping that little thingy on the corner of the old
floppy disks to make sure they cannot be written to anymore.  But I
could be very wrong.  Personally I have been able to use cds I have
not closed, and ones I have.

Don't know if this helps at all, but I hope so, bit of a case of the
blind leading the blind.;-)

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RPC: Program not Registered

[Richard Lyons]

Nice to be back with a broadband connexion and to be able to re-subscribe to 
my favourite list (even if only for a few weeks).  Not so nice to try to get 
at the work I've been doing mentime on my laptop by an nfs mount and to get:
   RPC: Program not Registered
Being more or less a dork about networks, I don't know what to do about it, 
and googling hasn't produced the expected enlightenment.  So all help 
gratefully received...

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A newbie's confusion about BS

[Thomas Pomber]

Okay, I'm out.  I got too many weirdos emailing me
about my dick.  Who are these people?  Leave me alone!

Besides, everybody's picking on the Americans, and
that's way too cliche.  What are you, jealous?  I just
feel sorry for them, because they're starting to
believe their own BS and are allowing their government
to behave like arrogant idiots.

Of course Canada is worse (commies), but you still
have to call a spade a spade once in a while.

Anybody know how to configure the network settings for
Xmule?  Do I use a text editor, or what?

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Apache2 and.... php

[Ron Rademaker]

Hello,

I guess this discussion has come along quite a few times already :) But
I want to get it to work, I only want to use it! I've had it running
fine for over a year on a RH server, but I just want to use debian. I'm
running testing but found some php 4.3.3 packages that I installed...
Why are they only for apache 1.3.x? I really don't understand this, if I
remember correctly creating a php module for apache 1.3.x or for apache
2.x is nothing but a configure option, so creating a php module for
apache2 should be a piece of cake (I would do it myself if I'd know how)
and belongs (IMHO) in at least unstable.

Alright, the above is perhaps more for the devel list, I just wanted to
get it of my chest, anyone knows about a php4 debian package that works
with apache2? I want to stick with only .debs instead of starting to
compile all kinds of things when I require a new package.

Thanks,
Ron



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Re: anti-spam idea for this list

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:25:03PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I see it just fine, but then I am sighted. I don't know how blind
> Debians access the list, but they do. I suppose they have something
> that does text to voice, or text to braille. Whatever it is, I doubt
> that it can handle figlet to voice/braille. I am not willing to leave
> these people behind, even though I happen to know none. I am not
> willing to poll the list, asking them to reveal themselves, so they
> can be counted. Maybe there are, at the moment, absolutely none. But
> there could be some, if we don't shut the door to them.

I know of a couple of Debian developers who are blind, or close to it.
I've met one of them. Those that I know of all make tremendously useful
contributions, more than many sighted developers.

Cheers,

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Re: RPC: Program not Registered

[Alex Malinovich]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote:
> Nice to be back with a broadband connexion and to be able to re-subscribe to 
> my favourite list (even if only for a few weeks).  Not so nice to try to get 
> at the work I've been doing mentime on my laptop by an nfs mount and to get:
>RPC: Program not Registered
> Being more or less a dork about networks, I don't know what to do about it, 
> and googling hasn't produced the expected enlightenment.  So all help 
> gratefully received...

It would be useful to have a bit more information on what you've done
so far. Assuming that you have the exports set up right, and that
you're trying to mount the nfs share properly, the next thing I'd
check would be whether you've actually started up the NFS server. For
anything more than that, we'll need more info on what you've done so
far, what kind of setup you have, etc.

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Re: A newbie's confusion about BS

[klaus imgrund]

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 07:07, Thomas Pomber wrote:
> Okay, I'm out.  I got too many weirdos emailing me
> about my dick.  Who are these people?  Leave me alone!
> 
Now - that would neither be my problem nor debian's problem.
BTW - what are you looking for from p2p?
> 
> Anybody know how to configure the network settings for
> Xmule?  Do I use a text editor, or what?

Say what?

Xmule is configured from the gui - if you insist to use a text editor try 
mldonkey.
Overnet is way better anyway.

Klaus




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Re: Is testing somewhat stable again>

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:27:36AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I heard that sarge was going through convulsions because changes
> in the C implementation, were making its packages incompatible.

That was ages ago, and it was C++, not C. The C++ transition is gradual
and isn't really something you should have to worry about in testing.
About the only exception might be packages like mozilla whose plugins
need to be compiled with the same version of g++ as mozilla itself.

>  Has this process finished yet?  Is sarge now as stable as it usually is?
> Is it safe to upgrade?

As always, you should see what your package manager proposes to do.

> (I need a new X for my Radeon card

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yet.

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Re: apt-proxy still maintained?

[Chris Halls]

On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 10:00, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> I have not noticed any release of the python apt-proxy v2 yet.
> Apart from the mentioned flaw I'm very satisfied with apt-proxy
> which helps to save a lot of bandwith. So I'd rather stay with
> apt-proxy if I would have the hope that the problem is going to
> be fixed.

Manuel, who wrote ap2, has been very busy working on his diploma.  He
finished it a couple of weeks ago and is on holiday for a few weeks.  He
then plans to start work on ap2 again and hopes to maybe be ready for
the Sarge release.

I have been very busy with OpenOffice in Debian and have not spent much
time on ap1.  I did actually make modifications to fix the above
problem, but ended up breaking other parts and abandoned them.

ap2 didn't get uploaded as promised earler because there was a serious
problem, where downloads would simply hang without reason.  I was not
able to find a problem in the ap2 code and Manuel was too busy to look. 
In fact, it was probably a problem in either twisted or python, because
it now seems to work well with the current unstable and python 2.3.

One of us will make some packages available soon; until then you can 
try it out by building a package based on a checkout from CVS.

Chris


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Re: RPC: Program not Registered

[Clive Menzies]

On (22/10/03 04:20), Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 04:20:24 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RPC: Program not Registered
> From: Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:07:55AM +0200, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > Nice to be back with a broadband connexion and to be able to re-subscribe to 
> > my favourite list (even if only for a few weeks).  Not so nice to try to get 
> > at the work I've been doing mentime on my laptop by an nfs mount and to get:
> >RPC: Program not Registered
> > Being more or less a dork about networks, I don't know what to do about it, 
> > and googling hasn't produced the expected enlightenment.  So all help 
> > gratefully received...
You might want to look at:
file:/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/NFS-HOWTO.gz

It's pretty self explanatory

Regards

Clive
> 
> It would be useful to have a bit more information on what you've done
> so far. Assuming that you have the exports set up right, and that
> you're trying to mount the nfs share properly, the next thing I'd
> check would be whether you've actually started up the NFS server. For
> anything more than that, we'll need more info on what you've done so
> far, what kind of setup you have, etc.

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How to find out where memory leaks to

[Thomas De Groote]

Hey,

I am running a quite standard Debian woody setup with the kernel 2.4.18 
that comes from the packages. The 2 HDs are in a RAID0, formatted as 
ext3, with quota installed. Problem is that for some reason after about 
1 week the 1 Gb of RAM is completely filled and when looking in top or 
ps I can't discover any process taking a lot of RAM.

Does anyone have an idea as to how to find what is taking my memory 
away? I could add another Gb, but I guess that will be taken in soon as 
well...

Sorry if this is a newbie-question answered elsewhere, I did a search 
but couldn't find anything.

Thomas

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Re: Kernel panic error

[Anim Asante]

> -Original Message- 
> From: Bill Marcum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 22 October 2003 07:01 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: Re: Kernel panic error 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 07:27:29AM +0100, Anim 
> Asante wrote: 
> > I have got a grub menu.lst file with a section of 
> the 
> > file looking like this 
> >  root (hd1,0) 
> >  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 
> >  boot 
> >   
> > When I restart my machine and select this option, 
> the 
> > boot up process begins up 
> > to a point and it gives the following error 
> message: 
> >  Warning: unable to open an initial console. 
> >  Kernel panic: No init found. 
> >  Try passing init= option to kernel. 
> >   
> > Can anybody indicate what "option" should be? 
> > Thanks 
> > 
> The kernel can't find /sbin/init. Are you sure your 
> root partition is 
> at /dev/hdb1? Have you compiled a new kernel? If 
> so, did you remember 
> to build in support for your root filesystem? Try 
> booting from a floppy 
> or CD, or your old kernel if you have one. Or you 
> could try 
> init=/bin/sh 
> 

Thanks for the reply. 

I do not have any problems when I use lilo. I am not
at my machine at the moment but I will give it a try
and see what happens. 

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Re: software download

[J. Javier Maestro]

On Oct Tue 21 2003 11:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, Oct 21, 2003, at 00:36 America/New_York, J. Javier Maestro  
> wrote:
> 
> >On Oct Mon 20 2003 02:01, SpawnPPC wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I'm Emanuele, from Italy.
> >>
> >>Where I can found and download with apt-get this software for  
> >>DebianPPC
> >>unstable distribution?
> >>
> >>- Wine
> >>- WineX


> >>- GameBoy Color Emulator
> >>- GameBoy Color Advance Emulator
> >>- LibMagick5.5.5 (needed to install transcode package) (i have found
> >>libmagick5.5.7 but it isn't compatible)
> >>
> >>Thanx for all and good work.
> >>
> >>Emanuele.
> >
> >Hi Emanuele,
> >
> >It is usually considered of good "nettiquete" to give some feedback to
> >the answers you get from a list such as DebianPPC. Specially when the
> >questions you ask have an easy answer (meaning a straight Google  
> >search)
> >and you still get some answers from people.
> >
> >I know that your english might not be perfect... but neither is mine! I
> >am Spanish, and you are Italian (we are almost cousins), but a quick
> >email (like the quick emails that you send to the list) to say thanks
> >should be enough.
> >
> >And remember... Google is your friend...
> >
> 
> Google isn't everyone's friend: http://www.google-watch.org/
> 
> There are other search engines out there, and they actually work.  Yes,  
> Google seems to work best, but its scary to me that they are completely  
> privately held and basically accountable to no one.  Google is pretty  
> much the opposite of Debian in that regard.  It would be great if there  
> were publically maintained search engine, we need a free search engine  
> that runs on free software.
> 
> time to get off the soapbox... (this wasn't meant to be a personal  
> attack at all, I am merely trying to spread the word).
> 
> .hc

Yeah, I knew about that one... :-/  Hey, nothing can be perfect! ;-) I
agree 100% with you on that, but it will take time to shift to something
half as good as Google... perhaps, when grid and distributed projects
grow and XML finally hits the Net, it will be a clever idea to implement
a daemon that has a little DB in each computer about the public contents
of the website and that syncs with a centralised cluster of servers that
can store an insane amount of people's syncs... just worried about the
security implications, though..

Anyways, let's hope free (as in freedom+beer) search engine projects
grow up in strenght and quality :)

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install over bootp

[kmark]

Hi Debianista,
I've come across a challange. Install on a laptop with no floppy, no
cdrom, an ethernet port and bootp/dhcp.
Does anyone know an links to docs on this kind of install?
TIA
-Kevin


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Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:03:22PM +0200, Thomas De Groote said
> Hey,
> 
> I am running a quite standard Debian woody setup with the kernel 2.4.18 
> that comes from the packages. The 2 HDs are in a RAID0, formatted as 
> ext3, with quota installed. Problem is that for some reason after about 
> 1 week the 1 Gb of RAM is completely filled and when looking in top or 
> ps I can't discover any process taking a lot of RAM.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea as to how to find what is taking my memory 
> away? I could add another Gb, but I guess that will be taken in soon as 
> well...
> 
> Sorry if this is a newbie-question answered elsewhere, I did a search 
> but couldn't find anything.

Can you send us the output of "free -m"?  Mine looks like this:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   250238 11  0  0 53
-/+ buffers/cache:185 65
Swap:  899453446

I only have 11MB free, but that's because my kernel has 53MB stashed
away as disk cache.  You want to look at the second row (-/+
buffers/cache:) to get a useful value for your free memory.  When an app
needs more memory, the kernel will flush the cache and a program can use
the memory.

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:02:10PM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> 
> > Hi Rolf,
> > 
> > maybe load ide-scsi *before* sr_mod ?
> 
> if a module needed to be loaded in the right order,
> it'd complain about missing symbols not yet defined
> when its dependency modules needed to be loaded first

Not necessarily. My idea is: If you have an SCSI controller working,
sr_mod will happily look for devices connected to that controller, but
it may fail to find the IDE drive if ide-scsi is not yet loaded.
On my system I have set
alias scsi-hostadapter ide-scsi ,
but that makes sense only because I have no other SCSI.

At least it may be worth trying...

> manually loading um might show you any error messages
> the system might be hiding
> 
> rmmod "everything"
>   than manually load um up

Good idea. Not only look for error messages but also for _success_
messages, at some point it should say that it found the device.

> 
> c ya
> alvin
> 

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Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

[Thomas De Groote]

On the box I was talking about:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:901440 441232 460208  0  90296 
247512
-/+ buffers/cache: 103424 798016
Swap:   481928  0 481928
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:   880430449  0 88
241
-/+ buffers/cache:101779
Swap:  470  0470

on another box, same symptoms (ext2 disks, no quota) :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:482548  54044 428504  0   2496  
36256
-/+ buffers/cache:  15292 467256
Swap:   497972  0 497972
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:482548 240648 241900  0   2676 
216620
-/+ buffers/cache:  21352 461196
Swap:   497972  0 497972
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:   471239231  0  2
215
-/+ buffers/cache: 20450
Swap:  486  0486

The second 'free' was a couple of hours later, without touching the 
machine...

Thx,

Thomas

On Wednesday, October 22, 2003, at 01:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:03:22PM +0200, Thomas De Groote said
Hey,

I am running a quite standard Debian woody setup with the kernel 
2.4.18
that comes from the packages. The 2 HDs are in a RAID0, formatted as
ext3, with quota installed. Problem is that for some reason after 
about
1 week the 1 Gb of RAM is completely filled and when looking in top or
ps I can't discover any process taking a lot of RAM.

Does anyone have an idea as to how to find what is taking my memory
away? I could add another Gb, but I guess that will be taken in soon 
as
well...

Sorry if this is a newbie-question answered elsewhere, I did a search
but couldn't find anything.
Can you send us the output of "free -m"?  Mine looks like this:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers 
cached
Mem:   250238 11  0  0 
53
-/+ buffers/cache:185 65
Swap:  899453446

I only have 11MB free, but that's because my kernel has 53MB stashed
away as disk cache.  You want to look at the second row (-/+
buffers/cache:) to get a useful value for your free memory.  When an 
app
needs more memory, the kernel will flush the cache and a program can 
use
the memory.

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Re: How to find out where memory leaks to

[Rob Weir]

[Please don't top post!  It makes your message harder to read,
especially in long threads.]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:23:51PM +0200, Thomas De Groote said
> On the box I was talking about:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
> cached
> Mem:901440 441232 460208  0  90296 
> 247512
> -/+ buffers/cache: 103424 798016
> Swap:   481928  0 481928
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
> cached
> Mem:   880430449  0 88
> 241
> -/+ buffers/cache:101779
> Swap:  470  0470

Yes, so you have 779MB of RAM free here.  Not too shabby...

> on another box, same symptoms (ext2 disks, no quota) :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
> cached
> Mem:482548  54044 428504  0   2496  
> 36256
> -/+ buffers/cache:  15292 467256
> Swap:   497972  0 497972
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
> cached
> Mem:482548 240648 241900  0   2676 
> 216620
> -/+ buffers/cache:  21352 461196
> Swap:   497972  0 497972


And again.  The "cached" column has increased, but the "free column" in
the "-/+ buffers/cache" has hardly changed.  You had 467256KB of free
memory to begin with, then two hours later you have  461196KB free.
That doesn't seem like a very drastic change at all.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ free -m
>  total   used   free sharedbuffers 
> cached
> Mem:   471239231  0  2
> 215
> -/+ buffers/cache: 20450
> Swap:  486  0486

This is the same as above, but the units are megabytes instead of
kilobytes.  No need t include both.  As I said in my original mail, the
kernel is using more and more memory up for disk cache as time goes on.
Because your files are cached in memory, which is about 1000 times
faster than your hard disk, everything feels quicker.  If the memory is
needed for an actual program, the kernel will clear out the disk cache
and make it available to whatever app wants it.

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Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.

[Chris Anderson]

On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 17:40, Joseph Jones wrote:
> I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: 
> http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/
> 
> I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned 
> in a mailing list archive. Could anyone tell me how I would go about 
> installing from this repository (so I can play UT2003 and Quake3 
> fullscreen (long story, stupid graphics card)).
> Many thanks :)

Why not just grab the official debs from experimental instead of using
some third party repo?

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NPTL (was: NGPT for/in Debian?)

[W. Borgert]

Hi,

thanks for the information on NPTL and NGPT.  Are the
packages already available to test it?  I'm not afraid
of crashing my machine, but...

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Magnus von Koeller]

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:05, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> Good idea. Not only look for error messages but also for _success_
> messages, at some point it should say that it found the device.

Now, what if it does report success but still doesn't work:

$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SAMSUNG  Model: CDRW/DVD SN-324B Rev: U102
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02

But:

$ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device

Also, do I need the ide-cd module loaded to make ide-scsi work?

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[David Lorenzo]

Hello, I am trying 
to install debian from a cd i got from a magazine but i am not very good at 
linux so i dont know if it is me who is not installing it properly. The 
problem is that i get to install it and when i choose what to install with 
tasksel i cannot pick any X-Window-System from the menu and so i think i am not 
installing properly any desktop environment and it never starts with gnome or 
kde though i know i have configure gnome2 (i upgraded it from another cd). The 
further i have got is to when debian tries to run gnome (after 
upgrading to gnome2) but it says something like "X-Window is not configure, do 
you want to configure now?" I pick yes but it doesnt do anything. 
Another problem i had during installation is that the locales in the cd 
(i guess they are not very well), i cannot choose anyone of them. So that when i 
finished installation my keyboard doesnt work properly and debian keeps saying 
all the time "keyboard unknown scancode" or something like that. I 
really appreciate your help because i wrote to the magazine telling them the 
problems and they havent helped. Thankyou very much for your time. david 

Re: Help with VIA EPIA-CL mini-ITX with two onboard ethernet ports

[Peter Samek]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:57:55PM +0100, Chris Evans wrote:
> Ho hum, do hope I haven't got myself ahead of Debian hardware 
> compatibility.
> 
[...]
> However, when I get to the installation of network drivers in the 
> Debian installation sequence, I select the via-rhine drivers and 
> offer no parameters and get:
> 
> "/lib/modules/2.2.20-compact/net/via-rhine.0: init_module: Device or 
> resource busy"
> ... and the rest of the failure notice.
> 
> Has anyone succeeded in installing the network drivers on this 
> motherboard?  It's moderately crippling to me at the moment as the 
> machine (silly me) hasn't got a CDROM as I've never had problems with 
> the floppy and network installation route in the past.
> 

Hi.

I have an EPIA mini-ITX CL6000E and had no problems with network
modules. But I must note that the kernel used was from 2.4 series and I
also connected already installed HDD.

Hope it helps.

Peter

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Re: mouse

[Kent West]

Stephen Cormier wrote:

You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad as your 
mouse in X11.

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html

 



That is _so_ cool! A little nugget of gold like this every so often sure 
makes Debian/GNU/Linux/X11 seem awesome!

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Re: NPTL (was: NGPT for/in Debian?)

[Colin Watson]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:15:39PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for the information on NPTL and NGPT.  Are the
> packages already available to test it?  I'm not afraid
> of crashing my machine, but...

They're in experimental; see a recent post by Daniel Jacobowitz to
debian-devel and debian-glibc.

(BTW, I read debian-user, so no need to cc me.)

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Re: gdm/X broken by recent update

[Kent West]

Robert William Hutton wrote:

Hi,

Last night's update in unstable has killed my xserver.  I'd normally be
able to work out what's going on, but nothing is showing up in my logs.
The symptoms of the problem are also different than the usual ones:
- The X server starts, I get the grey background, and the cross, which
 is the default X mouse pointer.  I can move the mouse pointer around.
- Then, before the GDM window appears, the server just crashes out.
There are no errors in /var/log/gdm/:?.log, /var/log/XFree86.log, syslog
or messages.
When I run startx, I get the grey background and mouse pointer, and some
apps that are being run because they're in my .xsession.  I also get the
gnome 2.4 splash screen very briefly, before the whole thing just
crashes again.  It seems like it's crashing when it's trying to load my
window manager, but I can't imagine why.
I'm very mystified about this; any suggestions would be appreciated.

In a related note, is it possible to work out which packages were
updated?  That way I could perhaps just roll back to the versions I was
running a couple of days ago.  I use aptitude.
Thanks,

Robert.

 

I _suspect_ this is similar to the problem I and others saw, related to 
gsfonts-other. Try removing that package and see if that solves your 
problem.

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debian unstable font problem

[Renai]

hi all,

I have a problem with debian unstable. My previous installation (last upgraded 
around a month ago) was displaying my copied windows fonts fine. However when 
I re-installed unstable, using the same procedure for fonts, there are 
problems.

Certain applications will use my truetype fonts and some not.

1. Wine won't use my fonts (this results in anything running in wine being 
almost unreadable)
2. Mozilla won't recognise my changes to the default fonts for gtk1 and gtk2 
applications, leading to the mozilla menus always being in 12 point 
sans-serif.
3. The fonts used in native windowmaker apps (for example the configuration 
utility) are jaggy and not being used right.

What's going on with fonts and unstable, and how do I fix it?

thanks,

Renai


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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Andrew Perrin]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Magnus von Koeller wrote:

> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:05, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> > Good idea. Not only look for error messages but also for _success_
> > messages, at some point it should say that it found the device.
>
> Now, what if it does report success but still doesn't work:
>
> $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
>   Vendor: SAMSUNG  Model: CDRW/DVD SN-324B Rev: U102
>   Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>
> But:
>
> $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device

What if you use /dev/sda ?

>
> Also, do I need the ide-cd module loaded to make ide-scsi work?
>

No.


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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Lukas Ruf]

I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22:

> Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 15:21]:
>

> >
> > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device
> 
> What if you use /dev/sda ?
> 
uccellina:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda /mnt
mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device

> >
> > Also, do I need the ide-cd module loaded to make ide-scsi work?
> >
> 

The modules loaded:

isofs  26292   0  (autoclean)
zlib_inflate   18564   0  (autoclean) [isofs]
ide-scsi   10320   0 
scsi_mod   59188   2  [sd_mod ide-scsi]

anything missing?

TIA.

wbr,
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Re: mouse

[Roberto Sanchez]

Kent West wrote:
Stephen Cormier wrote:

You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad 
as your mouse in X11.

http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html

 



That is _so_ cool! A little nugget of gold like this every so often sure 
makes Debian/GNU/Linux/X11 seem awesome!

I agree, I hade no idea.  This rocks.

-Roberto


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gnome-terminal corupting utmp

[David Purton]

system - testing, + bits of gnome2 from unstable.
 I log in using gdm and have gnome-terminal start
 automatically and then restart if it's closed (from
 gnome-session).


I've noticed that when I start another gnome-terminal, either from
command line or gnome2 menus and then exit from the terminal (via
exit) the record is not removed from /var/run/utmp.

The problem does not occur using xterm.


Has anybody any idea why this might happen and how I can stop it
happening.


cheers

dc


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[OT] Grammer (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

[Roberto Sanchez]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the
box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer.
Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
virus is viruses.  I know that as GNU/Linux users this viruses are
something we rarely have to deal with directly, especially in plural :-)
I just thought I would inform everyone who may not have known.

-Roberto


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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

[Johan Kullstam]

Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 21 Oct 2003 08:00:40 -0400, 
> Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > I am using gnus/emacs.  It treats mail like news.  This way, I get
> > mail lists each in their own group and the discussions are threaded.
> 
> ..agreed, and emacs and gnus _is_ on my todo list.  I like to use 2
> different apps for these 2 tasks though, as I like to _see_ what I do in
> case I forget.  ;-)

I found gnus/emacs baffling at first.  I was using elm and tin for a long
time.  I gave gnus a try but was overwhelmed.  I switched to mutt and
slrn which I used for a couple of years.  Using procmail to split your
mail and mutt to read it is a good solution.  I think it may best for
someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs editor, e.g., vi.

Fwiw, slrn has borrowed heavily from gnus so moving from slrn to gnus
is not as bad as going from tin to gnus.

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Magnus von Koeller]

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 14:54, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device
>
> What if you use /dev/sda ?

$ mount /dev/sda /cdrom
mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device

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Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

[Nicos Gollan]

It's "grammar".

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
> virus is viruses.

Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I 
see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little dead protein strands in 
protective protein hulls" is my favourite, but "valid reasons to shoot the 
a**holes who wrote 'em" is a close second. :-)

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Re: Verify that spamc is using Bayesian?

[Benedict Verheyen]

I think you can see if spamassassin is doing a system wide bayes
check by looking at the file bayes_msgcount.

In my /etc/spamassassin/local.cf i specified /var/mail/.spamassassin/bayes
as the bayes database.
I also specified use_bayes 1 and auto_learn 1 and whenever i receive
emails the size of the bayes_msgcount increases so i guess it works.
Strange is that i also don't see a bayes_00 mentioned in the
X-Spam-Status: test section.
However, i'm inclined to think that the system uses the bayes checking.

Benedict


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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

[Allan Wind]

On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs
> editor, e.g., vi.

Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of
additional clients once you have the server running.  Using vim myself
these days.


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Re: Advanced printing... continued

[Wayne Topa]

Christian Schnobrich([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hello,
> 
> after some try-and-error I eventually got printing to work; cups,
> foomatic and xpp now work hand-in-hand.
> 
> One issue left: my paper size is A4, but xpp won't let me select
> anything other than US Letter. Or rather, I can point at A4, do the
> selection, and end up with US Letter still being highlighted.
> 
> This doesn't seem to be too much of a problem; at any rate, all
> printouts I made so far fit on my (smaller) A4 sheets. Still, it's
> annoying and I'd like to know how to fix it.
> Even more because I'd like to print envelopes now and then.

Have your tried editing the .ppd file?

Changing the below to A4?

*DefaultPageSize: Letter
*DefaultPageRegion: Letter
*DefaultImageableArea: Letter
*DefaultPaperDimension: Letter

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Re: mouse

[Don Hayward]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

> Kent West wrote:
> > Stephen Cormier wrote:
> >
> >> You would be interested in this link then on using the numeric keypad
> >> as your mouse in X11.
> >>
> >> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/movecursor.html

Is there a way to control cursor movement speed?  This is lovely, but
seems very slow.  I didn't find anything on this page about it.

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Re: More on spam

[Shane Hickey]

> > ..Swen is no different than 9/11.  So, next time someone points a gun
> > your way, you do not want the police doing _anything_ about it?

I mean, seriously, I don't like to flame ANYONE, but that has got to be
the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my entire life.  Matter of fact,
I feel dumber for even reading it.  

9/11 = 3000 people blowing up in a building.  An attack on our nation.
swen = 3000 emails a day.  Hardly "no different"

Before you make comments like that, you should consider that there are
many, many people that were affected by 9/11, some of whom read this
list.  

Let's try to keep a little perspective here. SPAM sucks, but it's not
lethal (thank God!).
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Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

[Tom]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 03:55:19PM +0200, Nicos Gollan wrote:
> It's "grammar".
> 
> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
> > virus is viruses.
> 
> Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I 
> see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little dead protein strands in 
> protective protein hulls" is my favourite, but "valid reasons to shoot the 
> a**holes who wrote 'em" is a close second. :-)
> 

Languages evolve by consensus.  I saw a great proggie on TLC once about 
the guys who decide what is and isn't a word.  There are some 
spectacular flamefests in the professional societies about it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=virii
"No entry found for virii."

My personal pet peeve is:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=octopi
oc·to·pus( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kt-ps)
n. pl. oc·to·pus·es or oc·to·pi (-p)

Octopus is greek.  The correct plural is octopuses damn it!

:-)


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Re: [OT] Grammer (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

[David Jardine]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the
> >box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer.
> >
> 
> Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
> virus is viruses.  I know that as GNU/Linux users this viruses are

Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
this is these ;)

> 
> I just thought I would inform everyone who may not have known.
> 
> -Roberto



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Where to announce?

[smurfd]

Hey!

I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and
wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc..

Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists?

/smurfd



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Re: gdm/X broken by recent update

[Robert William Hutton]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Robert William Hutton wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Last night's update in unstable has killed my xserver.  I'd normally be
> >able to work out what's going on, but nothing is showing up in my logs.
> >The symptoms of the problem are also different than the usual ones:
> >
> >- The X server starts, I get the grey background, and the cross, which
> > is the default X mouse pointer.  I can move the mouse pointer around.
> >- Then, before the GDM window appears, the server just crashes out.
> >
> >There are no errors in /var/log/gdm/:?.log, /var/log/XFree86.log, syslog
> >or messages.
> >
> >When I run startx, I get the grey background and mouse pointer, and some
> >apps that are being run because they're in my .xsession.  I also get the
> >gnome 2.4 splash screen very briefly, before the whole thing just
> >crashes again.  It seems like it's crashing when it's trying to load my
> >window manager, but I can't imagine why.
> >
> >I'm very mystified about this; any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
> >In a related note, is it possible to work out which packages were
> >updated?  That way I could perhaps just roll back to the versions I was
> >running a couple of days ago.  I use aptitude.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Robert.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> I _suspect_ this is similar to the problem I and others saw, related to 
> gsfonts-other. Try removing that package and see if that solves your 
> problem.

Oh, you are just so damned awesome.  Thankyou!  I was about to reinstall
my system from scratch, I was becoming so desperate.  Hehe I can't seem
to go for more than a day without my precious linux box.

Seriously, though, it just goes to show the dangers of relying on
unstable on a production workstation.  I've had it break a few times
over the years, but never so badly as with the recent gnome/xserver
upgrades.

I'm not complaining, mind.  I figure that I will still use unstable,
because I'm addicted to the latest software.  What I do need to do is
take a bit more care with doing the update; upgrade cycle.

I really think this is quite a serious issue for those of us who rely on
an unstable box for production use.  The only way I can think of to keep
track of what has been upgraded when is to use script to trap the output
of apt-get:

script
apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
exit
mv typescript apt-upgrade-`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S`

That's not exactly elegant though, and there _surely_ should be some
mechanism for logging this at the dpkg or apt levels?

Thanks again,

Robert


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Re: Using apt-get/dselect to download from a un-official repository.

[Joseph Jones]

Nick Hastings wrote:

Hi,

* Joseph Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031022 10:31]:
 

I'd like to download xfree86 4.3.0 from this repository: 
http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/

I found it whilst Googling round for 4.3.0 for Debian, it was mentioned 
in a mailing list archive. Could anyone tell me how I would go about 
installing from this repository (so I can play UT2003 and Quake3 
fullscreen (long story, stupid graphics card)).
   

Looks like you need to add
deb http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/xfree86/ i386/
to you /etc/apt/sources.list
then do:
# apt-get update
You can fin out more my reading the sources.list man page or the
apt-get howto:
# apt-get install apt-howto-en
then look at
/usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html
Cheers,

Nick.

 

Okay, so, I tried that and dselect's showing the information for the 
packages in the repository (thankyou! :) ). Unfortunately, the guy who 
put it together
hasn't tested the repository and has written the Packages.gz badly. The 
addresses for all the files start with ./ , which apt-get can't 
interpret in an address (from the looks of the errors) and rightly so. 
I've confirmed this by looking at the file in Mozilla.

Is there any way of fixing this? The way I would do it if I knew that 
apt-get could do it would be to download the Packages.gz, remove all the 
./ , save and point apt-get at the new package file. Is this possible 
without downloading all the packages from the repository and effectively 
building a new repository locally? Or is it possible to make a local 
Packages.gz point at the remote files by using the full address?

Thanks again :)

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Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammar

[Roberto Sanchez]

Nicos Gollan wrote:
It's "grammar".

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
virus is viruses.


Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I 
see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little dead protein strands in 
protective protein hulls" is my favourite, but "valid reasons to shoot the 
a**holes who wrote 'em" is a close second. :-)

Check this out:

http://www.perl.com/language/misc/virus.html

Provides good info on the origin and explains why 'viruses' is the
correct plural form.
-Roberto


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Re: Can Anyone tell me what this is?

[Karsten M. Self]

on Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:12:57AM -0500, John Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> The message below is the result of a posting to debian user earlier today.
> Any idea what /why I recieved it. BTW if it get returned I will assume I 
> have been unsubscribed fro the mailing list.
> -
> 
>  Original Message 
> Subject:  Re: Re: Eclipse installation: j2re1.4 has no installation 
> candidate (Debian SID)
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 05:00:30 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Moderation Robot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> References:   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> linux.debian.user is a moderated newsgroup in gateway
> with a mailing list.
> 
> Your article has been examined by the automatic moderation program
> and has been refused because:
> 
> this hierarchy accepts posts only from registered users.
> You can register for posting by subscribing to the [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailing list. You can do so by sending a message with "subscribe" in the
> body at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address or by visiting
> http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate .

Crap from a broken 'bot.

Bounce it to abuse@ the site and its upstream.  Report it as spam.  And
add the originating email address to your own spamlist or blacklist.


Peace.

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Richard Kimber]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200
Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >
> > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device

This may not be the answer, but I find that if I do
cdrecord -scanbus
when this happens, and then try the mount, it works.
Don't ask me why.

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Re: More on spam

[Tom]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:09:25AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote:
> Let's try to keep a little perspective here. SPAM sucks, but it's not
> lethal (thank God!).
> -Shane

yet

it's becoming a distinction without a difference


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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Richard Kimber]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200
Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22:

Why do you have this set like this?

Reply-To: LIST-Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

It defeats Sylpheed's automatic reply-to-list facility.

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Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

[Joerg Johannes]

Am Mi, den 22.10.2003 schrieb Nicos Gollan um 15:55:
> It's "grammar".
> 
> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
> > virus is viruses.
> 
> Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so as I 
> see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little dead protein strands in 
> protective protein hulls" is my favourite
Well, "Little dead DNA or RNA fragment in protective protein hulls would
be correct...

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same-package upgrades

[Ferenc Wagner]

Greetings,

I made an own apt repository.  It works OK, but each package
installed from there gets replaced by itself whenever I run
apt-get upgrade.  How can I find out why?

Debian Woody i386

APT::Default-Release "stable";
APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;
APT::Get::Show-Upgraded 1;
Debug::pkgProblemResolver 1;


deb http://afavant.elte.hu/~wferi/debian woody main

Please CC me, I am not on the list.

Thanks,
Feri.


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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Bijan Soleymani]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:26:53PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote:
> I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canada
> from Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't
> brainwash their people in The Commie Days half as much as the US does
> today.  Yeah right, I said!  But he said that they never had movies
> where the Americans were depicted as ignorant morons like you guys do.
> Anyway, to make a long story short, the guy's got a point.

A good reason for this is that for the later half of the 20th century
the U.S. stopped using physical force on its own people (or at least
used less of it). Instead they decided on spending the money on public
relations, and on technicalogical methods.  So basically they got into
bed with the entertainment industry to make sure that every little film
and show had its little piece of propoganda.

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Re: Is testing somewhat stable again>

[heshi]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:11:39AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:27:36AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I heard that sarge was going through convulsions because changes
> > in the C implementation, were making its packages incompatible.
> 
> That was ages ago, and it was C++, not C. The C++ transition is gradual
> and isn't really something you should have to worry about in testing.
> About the only exception might be packages like mozilla whose plugins
> need to be compiled with the same version of g++ as mozilla itself.
> 
> >  Has this process finished yet?  Is sarge now as stable as it usually is?
> > Is it safe to upgrade?
> 
> As always, you should see what your package manager proposes to do.
> 
> > (I need a new X for my Radeon card
> 
> Doesn't that require XFree86 4.3? That isn't in testing (or unstable)
> yet.

No.  I see it's in experimental.  I suspect that stable -> experimental
may be too big a jump to do all at once.  Might be rough on reliability.

It's a Radeon 8500-DV.  I found a message a few days ago that hinted
that 4.2.1 might be what I need.  Of course, it wasn't very definitive
-- it was more like an aside in another discussion.

Right now I have *no* X drivers at all under debian.  Anything would be
an improvement, accelerated or not, even without DV support..

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Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently

[Bijan Soleymani]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:40:48PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 12:03, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> [...]
> > For example imagine you make "cat" suid...
> > 
> > Then someone can do:
> > cat /bin/rm /bin/cat
> > cat -rf /
> 
> This would just output both /bin/rm and /bin/cat to your screen...
> if you were to "cat /bin/rm > /bin/cat" you would get
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /bin/rm > /bin/cat bash: /bin/cat: Permission
> denied 
> 
> because piping is done by the shell, not cat. I'm not arguing that this
> is not unsafe, just that your particular example is incorrect ;-)

d'oh! Yes I realized that after I sent the message...

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2003 #3161

[Eric Walstad]

On Sunday 19 October 2003 14:39, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Eric Walstad wrote:
[...]
> >I'm not really interested in installing Knoppix, just how to get
> > similar application versions with a Debian installation.
>
> Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and duplicate your stable lines (except
> for the security line) _above_ (for priority's sake) those lines.
> Change the new lines to "unstable" where it currently says "stable"
> or "woody". (You're leaving the stable lines in so you can get
> packages that haven't seen any development since stable and therefore
> aren't in the unstable branch, and you're leaving in the security
> line to get security patches, which are applied to stable when
> problems are found but not necessarily incorporated immediately into
> the unstable packages).
>
> Then "apt-get update", followed by "apt-get dist-upgrade".
>
> (This is assuming you're pulling from the net; otherwise you'll have
> to get a repository of unstable on CD or on a local drive, etc).
>
> Then you can install most of what's in Knoppix, if it's not already
> installed/updated by the previous steps, but "apt-get install foo",
> where "foo" is the package for whatever you want to install, like:
> apt-get install openoffice.org
> apt-get install mozilla mozilla-firebird
> apt-get install xawtv
> etc.

Thanks Kent and others for your help.
I had a bit of trouble with the upgrade from woody to sid as KDE 
disappeared in the process and I'm not nearly as productive on gnome or 
command line.  But, I stumbled across the debian-kde wiki page:

which explains how to install libsensors-1debian1 and other minor KDE 
hurdles.  Using the tips on this page I was able to get KDE installed.

All appears to be in good working order again and with up-to-date 
packages.  Just what I was looking for.

Thanks again for your help in pointing me in the right direction.

Let-the-Debian-learning-continue-ly yours,

Eric.


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Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

[Ron Johnson]

On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 02:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, 
> Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > * Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
> > > Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?
> 
> > Narrator:  By 1964, experts say man will have established twelve
> >colonies on the moon, ideal for family vacations.
> >[a man fishes a comely moon maiden out of a crater.  She
> >winks at the audience]
> >[a chart shows the difference]
> >Once there, you'll weigh only a small percentage of what
> >you weigh on Earth.
> >[cut to a shot of a chubby boy eating pie]
> >Slow down, tubby!  You're not on the moon yet!
> >[cut to a shot of the moon, with an American flag
> >superimposed on it.  The camera pulls back to reveal some
> >men in spacesuits]
> >The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the
> >arrival of our astro-men.  Will you be among them?
> >[fini.  The film runs off the reel]
> 
> ..by human international legal etc tradition, whoever populates it
> first.
> The Chinese?  ;-)

Has the PRC ratified the Moon treaty?
http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/SpaceLaw/moontxt.htm

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Re: Re: Gnome, Nautilus, KDE anomalies

[G D Roux]

I've experienced pretty much the same symptoms on a fresh SuSE 
8.2 installation. If you've had any insights as to what is going on I'd be much 
obliged for any advice.
In my case, I'd just managed to install my winmodem properly, 
and was trying out browsers last night (newbie convert from Windows). After 
running a few instances of Galeon, I found my desktop had changed over from KDE 
to Gnome, and clicking on the KDE desktop icon just brought up a smallish 
window, white background, with some of the objects that are on my KDE desktop in 
it. This "desktop window" would not close, irrespective of whether I clicked on 
the 'Close' button or used ALT-F4. The Linux session would not close down 
either, and I had to crash out with my power button.
This morning, I booted up and tried to run K-Mail. The Gnome 
desktop had gone, but my mouse cursor froze, my hard drive light went on full 
time, and my whole system went totally sluggish. First message I got was that 
Nautilus was searching my drives for 'Trash folders' , and later one that said 
that Nautilus-throbber had crashed (fatal error or suchlike, error message 
2147), then the system started spawning desktop folders (I'm not sure whether 
these were Galeon or Nautilus),  up to 30 at one stage, as well as 
error messages (not sure which app, but definitely Gnome-like) to the effect 
that the app concerned had failed to enter "icon view' (about 19 of those). All 
the while, my hard drive light was on, and whatever was searching the drive was 
sucking almost the entire system resources.
On the odd occasion when I got my mouse to respond, I tried to 
right-click and close these, and sometimes a few would go off, only to be 
replaced by new desktop folders. 
I couldn't even get a Konsole to come up, so I went into text 
mode [Shift-Alt-F2] to run killall, and eventually got the flood to subside by 
killing nautilus AND bonobo. Btw, it's [Alt-F7] to get back to a graphical 
interface.
I was not playing around with firewall installation, so I 
would believe that you need not look further in that direction. Please keep me 
posted if you get advice on this
Ziggy

Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

[Bijan Soleymani]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs
> > editor, e.g., vi.
> 
> Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of
> additional clients once you have the server running.  Using vim myself
> these days.

Yes this is very true. Oddly enough as much as I love emacs, I can't get
used to gnus or any of the other mail packages. Every time I try
something goes wrong. So I use mutt running inside emacs (M-x term) and
use EDITOR=emacsclient. So that whenever mutt calls up the editor it
switches me to a new emacs buffer where I can type up my message (I also
have it set up so that the new buffer is in mail mode).

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Re: mouse

[Kent West]

Don Hayward wrote:

Is there a way to control cursor movement speed [when using the cursor keys as a mouse control by pressing Shift-Numlock in X11]?  This is lovely, but seems very slow.  I didn't find anything on this page about it.
 

I don't know if it'll have any effect, but you might try playing with `xset r rate x y` (where x & y are parameters - see "man xset").

BTW, this trick doesn't work well on my dual-headed box. The mouse cursor stays only on one monitor. Still, it's a cool trick.

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Re: scsi emulation: atapi reset irq timeout and other nasties...

[Garrett Patrick McLean]

if anybody has any clue or ANY suggestion i haven't tried yet i'd gladly
take itleft my computer off over night to be sure it wasn't
overheating...still no luck. i've also tried unloading the ide-cd module
entirelystill the same problem HELP

thanks

garrett

> hi,
>
> i've been trying to get scsi emulation working. i've compiled and
> installed my own custom kernel the debian way and i enabled the
> following as modules: ide-cd, scsi_mod, sr_mod, sg, and ide-scsi. i've
> also added a file called ide-cd to /etc/modutils with the following in
> it:
>
> options ide-cd ignore='hdc hdd'
>
> and then i ran update-modules. also added append="hdc=ide-scsi" to
> /etc/lilo.conf and ran lilo and rebooted. however, when i reboot i don't
>  get the nice ide-scsi setup i expect, instead i get a bunch of ugly
> messages to the tune of the following:
>
> scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0 In
> quiry 00 00 00 ff 00
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: DMA disabled
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries.
> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
> hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: drive not ready for command
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 1, scsi0, channel 0, id 0,
> lun 0 In
> quiry 00 00 00 ff 00
> SCSI host 0 abort (pid 1) timed out - resetting
> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
> SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 1) timed out - trying harder
> SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
>
> and so on...
>
> can anyone tell me why this is happening. i read somewhere that it could
>  be the computer overheating, so i turned it off for a few hours and
> tried again, still no luck...
>
> thanks to anyone who can solve this, it's driving me nuts!
>
> -Garrett
>
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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL (BS)

[Tom]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:47:41AM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:26:53PM -0400, Thomas Pomber wrote:
> > I was talking to this electrician who just relocated here to Canada
> > from Russia, and I was blown away when he told me that they didn't
> > brainwash their people in The Commie Days half as much as the US does
> > today.  Yeah right, I said!  But he said that they never had movies
> > where the Americans were depicted as ignorant morons like you guys do.
> > Anyway, to make a long story short, the guy's got a point.
> 
> A good reason for this is that for the later half of the 20th century
> the U.S. stopped using physical force on its own people (or at least
> used less of it). Instead they decided on spending the money on public
> relations, and on technicalogical methods.  So basically they got into
> bed with the entertainment industry to make sure that every little film
> and show had its little piece of propoganda.

Must be true.  When I was in Europe and turned on the TV, I said:
"God, please let me get back to my land of 500 channels of fakeness."

Europe is America minus 10 years.


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exim4-daemon-heavy and exiscan virus/spam filtering

[Benedict Verheyen]

Hi,

i currently have a working exim4 setup along the lines of
http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/node10.html.
Exim 4 gets the mail, then hands it over to spamassassin and clamav and
finally ends up delivering it to procmail which sorts all the business.

Now, i'm looking at exiscan but i was wondering about a few things.

1. I fetch my mail via fetchmail from my mailbox at my isp. The standard
way of exiscan's handling viruses and spam seems to be that it refuses the
mail. Is there a way of deleting the virus or spam mails on my remote
mailbox instead? That way i wouldn't actually have to download all these
swen messages and save bandwidth.

2. Can i still configure exiscan in such a way that i, for instance would
let spam through (but off course marking it as spam) so i can use sa-learn
on it?

Thanks
Benedict


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Re: [Waaaaaay OT] Grammer

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:55:19 +0200, 
Nicos Gollan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> It's "grammar".
> 
> On Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:45, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> > Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form
> > of virus is viruses.
> 
> Last thing I heard was that the original word had no plural at all, so
> as I see it we're all free to write what we want. "Little dead protein
> strands in protective protein hulls" is my favourite, but "valid
> reasons to shoot the a**holes who wrote 'em" is a close second. :-)

..I respectfully disagree:  Put on them a nice warm comfy suit and seat
them comfortably in a nice comfy recliner chair, with a string around
their balls with just short of enough slack, and a noose around their
neck, the latter with _just_ enough slack to snort air out of the wave 
bottoms at high tide, and let them _decide_ for themselves.  ;-)

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Lukas Ruf]

> Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:00]:
>

> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200
> Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > >
> > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> > > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device
> 
> This may not be the answer, but I find that if I do
> cdrecord -scanbus
> when this happens, and then try the mount, it works.
> Don't ask me why.
> 

I noticed, that the 
generic SCSI module (sg) gets loaded only then

However, it still does not work yet for me.

wbr,
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apache/php4 bug or not?

[Edwin Lau]

Hi everyone,

I have recently installed apache/php4 and I followed the 4 steps
given in /usr/share/doc/php4/README.Debian.gz to setup php4_module.  I
restart the service.  I had no luck.  I tried a couple of times.  So I
trial and error and found that if I do

modules-config apache enable mod_php4,

I added an extra LoadModule line (which already existed) in
modules.conf.  After that, it worked fine, of course, it gaves me a
warning saying mod_php4 was loaded and was skipped.

I tried deleting the extra line and restart, it still worked fine.  Is
it a bug?  Was it something modules-config did that wasn't in the
original config?  I am using unstable and Apache 1.3,28-4.

Please CC me.  I am not on this list.

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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Lukas Ruf]

Richard,

> Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:10]:
>

> On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200
> Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have been experiencing the same problems on 2.4.22:
> 
> Why do you have this set like this?
> 
> Reply-To: LIST-Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> It defeats Sylpheed's automatic reply-to-list facility.

the problem is, that I have been receiving more than 
about 1000 Swen-eMails per day to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  For this
reason, I invalidated that eMail-Address.  Further, I prefer reading
the emails on the list if I send anything to the list.  That's the
reason why I put it to be dev_null.

But, please accept my apologies if it creates any annoyance.

wbr,
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Re: [OT] Grammar (WAS: Re: allowing a "normal" user to work efficiently)

[Roberto Sanchez]

David Jardine wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:45:09AM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


MS windows is 'friendly' to users and virii and cracker alike out of the
box. Us *nix folks like to keep our data a bit safer.
Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
virus is viruses.  I know that as GNU/Linux users this viruses are


Not trying to start a flame-fest here, but the correct plural form of
this is these ;)

True.  I originally typed the sentence as "I know that as GNU/Linux
users this is "  Then I realized that the pronoun reference of
"this" was "flame-fest" (the subject of the previous sentence).  In my
haste to correct it to the less ambiguous viruses, I forgot to change
"this" to "these."  Good catch.
Of course, I also spelled grammar as grammer in the original subject
(I fixed it in this reply).  But spelling is a different topic
altogether.
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[OT] Cracked website at sf.net

[Roberto Sanchez]

Can someone here who has a sourceforge account please let the admins
know that the Crystalspace Wiki site has been cracked.
http://crystal.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php

I happened across it a couple of nights ago, and I emailed the
sourceforge admins (the main crystalspace page is not responding),
But I have heard nothing back.  I imagine that they tossed my email
since it is a vulnerability/security issue and I don't a SF account
to mail them from.
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Re: ide-scsi problem on woody

[Lukas Ruf]

> Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:34]:
>

> > Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-10-22 17:00]:
> >
> 
> > On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 15:36:21 +0200
> > Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > >
> > > > > $ mount /dev/scd0 /cdrom
> > > > > mount: /dev/scd0 is not a valid block device
> > 
> > This may not be the answer, but I find that if I do
> > cdrecord -scanbus
> > when this happens, and then try the mount, it works.
> > Don't ask me why.
> > 
> 
> I noticed, that the 
> generic SCSI module (sg) gets loaded only then
> 
> However, it still does not work yet for me.

kern.log reports:
Oct 22 17:44:36 [kernel] ide-scsi: The scsi wants to send us more data
than expected - discarding data
Oct 22 17:44:36 [kernel] Unable to identify CD-ROM format.

Any idea for 2.4.22?

The list of modules loaded I consider important for the cdrom-access:
sr_mod 14360   0  (autoclean)
cdrom  28736   0  (autoclean) [sr_mod]
sg 28092   0  (autoclean)
sd_mod 11180   0  (autoclean) (unused)
isofs  26292   0  (autoclean)
zlib_inflate   18564   0  (autoclean) [isofs]
ide-scsi   10320   0 
scsi_mod   59188   4  [sr_mod sg sd_mod ide-scsi]

wbr,
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Re: More on spam

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:58:16 -0400, 
Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:56:59AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > 
> > ..Swen is no different than 9/11.  So, next time someone points a
> > gun your way, you do not want the police doing _anything_ about it?
> > 
> How many people have been killed by swen?  Should the US shut down all
> internet traffic like they closed all the airports after 9/11?

..your analogy suggests all traffic was closed after the WTC fell.  
Not true, travellers were diverted to ground bound transportation.  

..a better analogy would be "ban all use of wintendo on internet".  ;-)

..I dunno how many has been killed by swen.  The stats on downtime and
costs on wintendos in the US, suggests we have 4 9/11 a year worldwide,
comparing with the insurance stats of the one in 2001,  but I would
think the loss of human life is less, except possibly from the indirect
ramifications.  Evaluating this would require a lot of analysis work,
which I don't quite see Microsoft sponsoring.  ;-)

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

[Roberto Sanchez]

Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote:

On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:

I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs
editor, e.g., vi.
Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of
additional clients once you have the server running.  Using vim myself
these days.


Yes this is very true. Oddly enough as much as I love emacs, I can't get
used to gnus or any of the other mail packages. Every time I try
something goes wrong. So I use mutt running inside emacs (M-x term) and
use EDITOR=emacsclient. So that whenever mutt calls up the editor it
switches me to a new emacs buffer where I can type up my message (I also
have it set up so that the new buffer is in mail mode).
Bijan
OK.  I never use emacs, so this may sound like a dumb question.  You
can run mutt *inside* of emacs?  How?  Why not just run it in a
regular xterm?
Besides, I thought emacs was a text editor (hence the emacs/vi flame
wars).
-Roberto


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Re: Search feature in PDF files

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:27:14PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Are there any Free Software PDF viewers that have the ability to search
> and copy/paste text and graphics?  I ask because I find that sometimes
> I have to use acroread (non-free, of course) becuase I have a large PDF
> file and I need to search for a string, or copy a long selection of
> text.  I would prefer to not use the non-free app, but I have come to
> rely on the search and copy functions.  Are there any alternatives?
> 
> I have already looked at gv, ggv, and gpdf, but it's not there in any
> of those.  What does everyone else use?
> 
> -Roberto

(In addition th what has already been mentioned:)

To get text out of a pdf file: pdftotext (package xpdf-utils). Generates
a text file in which you can search, copy, edit, ...

To get images: pdfimages (xpdf-utils) or pstoedit.

HTH
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Re: anti-spam idea for this list

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:04:14PM -0400, ScruLoose wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:13:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:32:57PM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 12:17:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> > > > Why would anybody read an inheirently monospace medium in anything but
> > > > a monospaced font?
> > > 
> > > The web is a monospaced medium?  Since when?
> > 
> > Email is, as is news.
> 
> That's true, but I'm pretty sure this whole discussion has been about
> how (and if) people's e-mail addresses should be displayed on the web
> archive of the list. Not about the list itself or news gateways.
> 

But if we obfuscate the email addresses in the archives, blind Debians are
forced to ask on the list questions that could better have been dealt with
by direct communication with a poster. And they have to do it *because* they
are blind. And the have to suffer the flames suggesting in rough language
that they should look in the archives. To do this is not social justice.


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Re: "spurious 8259A interrupt: IRQ7."

[Bob Proulx]

Marc Wilson wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > That isn't right either.  IRQ7 is not the lowest priority interrupt
> 
> How do you figure that IRQ7 isn't the lowest priority interrupt?
> 
> IRQ0timer tick
> IRQ1keyboard
> IRQ2chained to IRQ9
>  |  IRQ8RTC
>  |__IRQ9chained to IRQ2
> IRQ10   free
> IRQ11   free
> IRQ12   usually PS/2 port
> IRQ13   free (used to be the numeric coprocessor)
> IRQ14   primary IDE
> IRQ15   secondary IDE
> IRQ3secondary serial
> IRQ4primary serial
> IRQ5free (was the HD interrupt on the XT)
> IRQ6floppy disk
> IRQ7lpt

Yep.  You are right and I was wrong.  It has been a long time since I
have needed think about this architecture.  I think I am just going to
crawl back with my tail between my legs on this one.

> The kernel, on the other hand, is sitting there saying "huh, there was no
> interrupt for IRQ7 asserted."

Agreed.

Right or wrong it would have saved the 'net a lot of discussion
bandwidth if the kernel had never printed this diagnostic message!
:-)

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Re: cdrom not working

[Kent West]

CC'ing to the list, for archival purposes.

Kent West wrote:

Will the machine boot off some other CD?

I'm not sure if your "Yes" below refers to this question, the next 
question, or both.

Does it even look like it's
trying to boot off the CD (e.g. BIOS settings determining boot order)?
Jose Colmenares wrote:

Yes. the BIOS setting is ok. It does look like it's trying
to boot. Booting from the CD is allowed, and a light turns on
when booting... but it continues to the hard drive... as if
the CD had no operating system.
Kent wrote:

Do you still have woody on the box? If so, boot into it and mount the
CD; does it mount? is it readable?
Jose wrote:

Yes, it does mount, and it's readable. I also tried to boot
off the CD in another CPU, and it worked.


I'd say I have a hardware problem... but since it does mount
the cd and reads it, I don't know what to think.
If this CD is a burned CD (rather than "pressed"), and if this CD drive 
is older (say, back in the 4x days or so), it's probably just that the 
CD drive is having trouble reading the CD. Those older drives tended to 
have trouble reading burned CDs. The typical behavior would be 
"unreliability"; it would look like the CD was working, then you'd start 
getting read errors, and after several attempts might be successful or 
might not be. You'd think the CD must be scratched or something, but it 
would work fine in another machine, etc.

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Re: Where to announce?

[Roberto Sanchez]

smurfd wrote:
Hey!

I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and
wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc..
Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists?

/smurfd



Depending on what the program is, I'd be willing to try it out and
give you some feedback.  But, I (and others) would need to know where
to download it :-)
-Roberto


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Galeon doesn't work correctly with gnome 2.4

[Dave Carrigan]

Up until I upgraded to gnome 2.4, anytime I invoked galeon, it would
correctly find itself and not try to start a new instance. Now, galeon
no longer does this consistently.

If I launch galeon from an interactive bash shell, then anything that
launches galeon from an interactive bash shell will find the instance,
as will subprocesses started from that shell (i.e., xemacs). I can even
sign on to a text console and do

 DISPLAY=:0 galeon

and it will work. However, anything that doesn't launch galeon from an
interactive bash shell will not find the instance. 

Conversely, if I launch galeon from the panel, then try to run galeon
from an interactive bash shell, it won't find the instance, but anything
else that is launched from the panel will find galeon. 

I've looked at my environment, but none of the obvious candidates (DISPLAY,
SESSION_MANAGER, GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID) seem to be the culprit.

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Re: Where to announce?

[John Foster]

smurfd wrote:

Hey!

I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and
wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions etc..
Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists?

/smurfd



 

I have seen a number of these type of questions over the years & most 
people tend to be very wary of using unsolicited software. I would 
suggest that you follow the path of getting a current debian developer 
to sponser the package if you can . That way it can eventually be 
uploaded to the correct area of debian  AFTER  someone who is sanctioned 
has checked it out. You should make that type of inquery on the 
developers list. BE PATIENT! These folks are almost always VERY BUSY. 
Also you may want to speak to some of the developers about their 
experiences regarding getting started as a Debian Developer.  This is 
the way most people become sanctioned developers. Get sponsered. Get 
sanctioned.

If you are in a hurry to get the package tried out perhaps you should 
list the download site and have a VERY GOOD listing of the applications 
properties and especially any bugs that you are currently working on. 
There are a few hardy souls who will try out apps that are presented 
like this. The greatest problem is normally that there is insufficient 
info on the app.
A last thought. If the app is NOT going to be liscensed as GPL, LGPL or 
something appropriate for Debian you are definitly in the wrong area. 
Try for a commercial development sanction.
Good Luck.! We need many more folks who are willing to allocate their 
efforts to enhancing the scope of Debian.

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Re: Search feature in PDF files

[Roberto Sanchez]

Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:27:14PM -0400, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

Are there any Free Software PDF viewers that have the ability to search
and copy/paste text and graphics?  I ask because I find that sometimes
I have to use acroread (non-free, of course) becuase I have a large PDF
file and I need to search for a string, or copy a long selection of
text.  I would prefer to not use the non-free app, but I have come to
rely on the search and copy functions.  Are there any alternatives?
I have already looked at gv, ggv, and gpdf, but it's not there in any
of those.  What does everyone else use?
-Roberto


(In addition th what has already been mentioned:)

To get text out of a pdf file: pdftotext (package xpdf-utils). Generates
a text file in which you can search, copy, edit, ...
To get images: pdfimages (xpdf-utils) or pstoedit.

HTH
True.  However, I was looking for something more interactive. I.e.,
I am reading a book on OpenGL programming (which is in PDF format).
As I read I like to be able to copy/paste the code samples and try
them out.  With the utilites you mention, it would be decidedly more
difficult to read, because by extracting either text or graphics, I
lose the other and all the formatting.
But thanks for the info.

-Roberto


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Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 10:08:42 -0500, 
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 02:31, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 15:39:04 -0700, 
> > Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > > * Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031021 15:32]:
> > > > Have we figured out who owns the Moon yet?
> > 
> > > Narrator:  By 1964, experts say man will have established twelve
> > >colonies on the moon, ideal for family vacations.
> > >[a man fishes a comely moon maiden out of a crater. 
> > >She winks at the audience]
> > >[a chart shows the difference]
> > >Once there, you'll weigh only a small percentage of
> > >what you weigh on Earth.
> > >[cut to a shot of a chubby boy eating pie]
> > >Slow down, tubby!  You're not on the moon yet!
> > >[cut to a shot of the moon, with an American flag
> > >superimposed on it.  The camera pulls back to reveal
> > >some men in spacesuits]
> > >The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the
> > >arrival of our astro-men.  Will you be among them?
> > >[fini.  The film runs off the reel]
> > 
> > ..by human international legal etc tradition, whoever populates it
> > first.
> > The Chinese?  ;-)
> 
> Has the PRC ratified the Moon treaty?
> http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/SpaceLaw/moontxt.htm

..looks like it.  But reread Article 20. And, this treaty also ignores 
potential native lunar and other extraterrestrial nations, so there 
_might_ be yet another Boston Tea Party.  ;-)

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Re: A newbie's confusion about GPL

[Alex Malinovich]

On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 10:04:18AM -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2003-10-22T09:29:24-0400, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > I think it may best for someone who uses a fast starting non-emacs
> > editor, e.g., vi.
> 
> Emacs has a client/server feature, so you get quick start-up of
> additional clients once you have the server running.  Using vim myself
> these days.

I've been doing mutt + emacs for a while now and have been quite
happy. Though now that you mention emacsclient, is there any way to
use emacsclient but have it create a different frame (instead of just
a new buffer) every time it's called? I use my desktop machine from 3
different machines in the house, so using regular old emacsclient
hasn't been much of an option since I'd have to be on the same machine
that I initially started it on in order to use it.

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Re: Where to announce?

[TR]

On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 16:29:25 +0200
smurfd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey!
> 
> I was wondering, if I had made a program, designed for Debian, and
> wanted others to try it out, and give me their opinion/suggestions
> etc..
> 
> Would this list be a good place, or perhaps some of the devel lists?
> 
> /smurfd

What program is it? What does it do? That would probably be a good
start, explaining the essence of the program. Then you could post it in
some website, do you have one? If it is good enough, I would say that
debianplanet.org would probably mention it, with pointers to the site or
so.


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Re: More on spam

[klaus imgrund]

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:39, Tom wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:09:25AM -0500, Shane Hickey wrote:
> > Let's try to keep a little perspective here. SPAM sucks, but it's not
> > lethal (thank God!).
> > -Shane

On Wednesday 22 October 2003 12:39, Tom wrote:
> yet
> 
> it's becoming a distinction without a difference
> 
> 
WTF is this supposed to mean?

Starting to think Tom is on this list for flaming only

Klaus


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Re: scsi emulation: atapi reset irq timeout and other nasties...

[Nick Lidakis]

Garrett P. McLean wrote:

hi,

i've been trying to get scsi emulation working. i've compiled and 
installed my own custom kernel the debian way and i enabled the 
following as modules: ide-cd, scsi_mod, sr_mod, sg, and ide-scsi. i've 
also added a file called ide-cd to /etc/modutils with the following in 
it:

options ide-cd ignore='hdc hdd'

and then i ran update-modules. also added append="hdc=ide-scsi" to 
/etc/lilo.conf and ran lilo and rebooted. however, when i reboot i don't 
get the nice ide-scsi setup i expect, instead i get a bunch of ugly 
messages to the tune of the following:

scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 0, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, 
lun 0 In
quiry 00 00 00 ff 00 
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: DMA disabled
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of retries.
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: drive not ready for command
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 1, scsi0, channel 0, id 0, 
lun 0 In
quiry 00 00 00 ff 00 
SCSI host 0 abort (pid 1) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
SCSI host 0 channel 0 reset (pid 1) timed out - trying harder
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }

and so on...

can anyone tell me why this is happening. i read somewhere that it could 
be the computer overheating, so i turned it off for a few hours and 
tried again, still no luck...

thanks to anyone who can solve this, it's driving me nuts!

-Garrett

 

I have the same problem with debian kernel 2.4.22. I need scsi for a cd 
burner and using a small flash key, reverting to kernel 2.4.21 did the 
trick. MOtherboard is and Intel 875P w/ P4 3.0Ghz. Which kernel are you 
running?

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Re: Apache2 and.... php

[John Foster]

Ron Rademaker wrote:

Hello,

I guess this discussion has come along quite a few times already :) But
I want to get it to work, I only want to use it! I've had it running
fine for over a year on a RH server, but I just want to use debian. I'm
running testing but found some php 4.3.3 packages that I installed...
Why are they only for apache 1.3.x? I really don't understand this, if I
remember correctly creating a php module for apache 1.3.x or for apache
2.x is nothing but a configure option, so creating a php module for
apache2 should be a piece of cake (I would do it myself if I'd know how)
and belongs (IMHO) in at least unstable.
Alright, the above is perhaps more for the devel list, I just wanted to
get it of my chest, anyone knows about a php4 debian package that works
with apache2? I want to stick with only .debs instead of starting to
compile all kinds of things when I require a new package.
Thanks,
Ron


 

Use php4-cgi and make sure that these are in your   
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf   file

AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
# Set to use php4-cgi as ssi--added by sysadmin 10/11/03
Action application/x-httpd-php /cgi-bin/php4
You must also make sure that the mod-rewrite module is set up as well.
This will NOT work without it.
I currently am using this to run a very excellent photo album gateway 
called gallery which is php scripted.
If you try to use any debian package that still has a dependency on 
apache1.3 or apache-common1.3 you are out of luck, and there are a lot 
of them. I am currently trying to get drupal running using this method 
but so far just research on how to accomplish this. I will keep you 
apprised of any other things that I discover.

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Re: update in sid has killed gnome-terminal

[TR]

> > I originally assumed you were the OP, but skimming the archives, it
> > appears that you are not.

I am th OP

> > The original poster posted a statement, not a question.  The
> > statement was, "I just did an upgrade in a machine running sid and
> > after that can't star a gnome terminal anymore."

Right, I just made a comment, it was not really a question at all. Just
as you talk to your friends across the aisle: Hey guys, did you notice?,
there was an accident in such and such street! Probably with so much
spam people don't want any extra talk.

> > Now, granted, rudeness was probably uncalled for, but what
> > legitemate response would you expect?
> 
> If one isn't feeling terribly helpful but really, really, really has
> to say something:
> 
>  "I'm running Sid too and I've noticed that gnome-terminal isn't
>  starting but I don't have the time to diagnose the problem for you.
>  Could you please post more information?"

Sorry David, you took a lot of crap that was intended for me. I just
chickened out, when I saw the angry responses I just vanished into the
thin air. Any way, thanks to all the people in this list, thanks to all
the mantainers, thanks to Christian Marillat for the great work (mplayer
included!), who is the gnome-terminal mantainer. I like the signatures
of Vinet and Karsten: Good times. Peace.


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