Real Text-Mode

2003-01-05 Thread Harald Wopenka
Hi!

Does anyone know how to tell debian it should not switch to graphic mode?
(640x480 16 cols) I want it to boot in ordinary textmode, but I wasn't able
to do it. vga=normal in lilo.conf did not work. Using rdev to alter the
kernel file did not work either...

Any clues?

Thanks, Harry


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Re: Darell Speirer/BJS/BJSERVICES is out of the office.

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
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Re: kdevelop - unmet dependencies

2003-01-05 Thread Travis Crump
Kevin Coyner wrote:

I'm running testing and would like to install kdevelop, but when I run

apt-get install kdevelop

I get the following:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be
  installed
  Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed
	  E: Sorry, broken packages

Is this truly a broken package, or is there something I need to fix on
my end?  I.e. install the unstable version of kdelibs3 and kdebase-libs?
I'm concerned, however, that if I do this, that other apps will get
messed up.

Thanks
Kevin



It doesn't appear broken here.  Try doing "apt-get install kdelibs3 
kdebase-libs" to figure out why apt-get doesn't want to install them[the 
testing versions are fine[kdebase-libs has identical versions in testing 
and unstable and kdelibs3 is pretty close to identical[1 packaging 
version]].  The usual reason would be that something would need to be 
removed, but nothing in debian conflicts with kdelibs3or kdebase-libs... 
 Do you have any non-Debian sources that might be the culprit?


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Re: Real Text-Mode

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 08:56:41AM +0100, Harald Wopenka wrote:
> Does anyone know how to tell debian it should not switch to graphic mode?
> (640x480 16 cols) I want it to boot in ordinary textmode, but I wasn't able
> to do it. vga=normal in lilo.conf did not work. Using rdev to alter the
> kernel file did not work either...

Not exactly giving us enough detail here is X starting or are we
talking framebuffer penguins on boot or what?

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Re: Switching to GNOME2

2003-01-05 Thread Jeremy Tan

On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:46:55 -0600, "Scott C. Linnenbringer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> Secondly, I want to customize the theme. I've decided to use Metacity,
> but I assume I have to use a GTK theme, too, to get the themed
> menubar, buttons, boxes, et cetera. I've been able to use apt to
> download some themes, but all of the ones I grab from Freshmeat only
> change the coloring scheme. The interface still looks the same other
> than a new color.

More GNOME themes are available at http://art.gnome.org. I personally
use the mist engine, available at
http://primates.ximian.com/~dave/mist/. 
It comes with both the GTK and GTK2 themes. It makes minor changes 
to the way the UI looks instead of just changing the color of the theme.

> Thirdly, I plan on using pan as my newsclient and am looking for a
> mailer. Sylpheed looks good, and it will be the one I intend to use if
> no others are found, but it doesn't utilize GTK2. What other options
> do I have?
> 

Balsa utilizes GTK2. I haven't tried it out yet though. I use
Sylpheed-claws (http://sylpheed-claws.sourceforge.net/) for reading all
mail from mailing lists since its amazingly fast. I also use Evolution
for
all my personal email and calendering needs. 

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Re: Evolution 1.2.1

2003-01-05 Thread Jeremy Tan

On 03 Jan 2003 17:21:02 -0500, Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

> I would appreciate instruction on installing Evolution 1.2.1 from
> people who have done this successfully.  I have attempted to install
> via apt-get from unstable, but have run into several dependency
> problems with seemingly mutually exclusive files (namely libgtkhtml1.1
> et.al.). Additionally, it would be interesting to know if spell-check
> is working for you.  I had not gotten this to work the last time I
> "somewhat" successfully installed Evolution.

You might want to try installing it using the .debs from Ximian if you
are using woody. Add this to your apt sources list
(/etc/apt/sources.list).

deb http://red-carpet.ximian.com/debian woody main

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Re: Real Text-Mode

2003-01-05 Thread Harald Wopenka
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: Real Text-Mode


On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 08:56:41AM +0100, Harald Wopenka wrote:
> Does anyone know how to tell debian it should not switch to graphic mode?
> (640x480 16 cols) I want it to boot in ordinary textmode, but I wasn't
able
> to do it. vga=normal in lilo.conf did not work. Using rdev to alter the
> kernel file did not work either...

Not exactly giving us enough detail here is X starting or are we
talking framebuffer penguins on boot or what?

---

No X... just the console. I want it in standard non-graphic textmode (like
in redhat for example). But for some reason it does always switch to
graphicsmode. I can't believe that this is just for that little
penguin-image.


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Re: Will my fonts ever look good?

2003-01-05 Thread Stig Are M. Botterli
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Moseley 
wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Stig Are M. Botterli wrote:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Moseley 
>wrote:
>> >
>> > $ dpkg -l | grep font
>> >
>> > ii  gsfonts-x110.16   Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11.
>> 
>> This package is a real uglificator. Replace it with a dummy equiv.
> 
> I removed it with no real difference

Depends on what fonts you use. Atleast on my machine, the not-so-pretty
fonts provided by this package took precedence over some of my tt-fonts. I
wasn't able to solve it short of removing it.

>, but I didn't replace it
> with anything.  What package should I replace it with?

Install the 'equivs' package and create a dummy gsfonts-x11, which will
prevent the real package from being installed to satisfy dependencies.



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Re: Video CD software

2003-01-05 Thread Andrew McGuinness
In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:19, Richard Kimber wrote:
> I'm looking for packages that I might use to create CDs containing a
> slideshow of photos that I could play on my DVD player.  (I'm not
> referring to the CD burning aspects, but how to create what I would burn
> on the CD. I use xcdroast for the former).  As a complete beginner with
> video stuff, I have no idea what sorts of packages I might need.
> 

I've been having a go at doing this, with some success.

I haven't found software to automate this process.  The "pieces" I use 
are transcode, mplex, mkvcdfs, and cdrdao

transcode is from package transcode
mplex from mjpegtools
mkvcdfs from vcdtools
cdrdao from cdrdao

I run stable, and I get transcode and mjpegtools from http://marillat.free.fr/

A rough guide follows.

#VCD resolution is 352x288

cd $SOURCES
for x in *.jpg ; do
convert -scale 352x288 $x $FRAMES/$x
done

find $FRAMES -type f >frames.list
f=frames.list
cat $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f $f | sort -o video.list

transcode -i video.list -x imlist,null -k -z -g 352x288 -f 1 -y mpeg2enc,null -F 1 -Z 
352x288 -H 0 -o vid
mplex -f 1 -S 680 -o vid.mpg vid.m1v
mkvcdfs vid.mpg

cdrdao write --device 0,0,0 --speed 8 vcd.toc

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The link someone else posted seemed to be mainly Windows and Mac software; it would be 
cool if 
there was a way to do all the above directly.  I haven't quite managed to add a 
soundtrack, and
one of the programs mentioned seemed to suggest that it was possible to get better 
results than 
just making a video out of 352x288 size frames.

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Disabling framebuffer

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Johnson
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 09:32:38AM +0100, Harald Wopenka wrote:
> No X... just the console. I want it in standard non-graphic textmode (like
> in redhat for example). But for some reason it does always switch to
> graphicsmode. I can't believe that this is just for that little
> penguin-image.

That's framebuffer mode.  Install a non-framebuffer kernel, or read
documentation on how to disable it by passing options to the kernel at
boot time.

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Re: Switching to GNOME2

2003-01-05 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le dim 05/01/2003 à 05:46, Scott C. Linnenbringer a écrit :

> Secondly, I want to customize the theme. I've decided to use Metacity, but I 
> assume I have to use a GTK theme, too, to get the themed menubar, buttons, 
> boxes, et cetera. I've been able to use apt to download some themes, but all 
> of the ones I grab from Freshmeat only change the coloring scheme. The 
> interface still looks the same other than a new color.

You have to download separate metacity themes. You'll find them on
http://art.gnome.org

> Thirdly, I plan on using pan as my newsclient and am looking for a mailer. 
> Sylpheed looks good, and it will be the one I intend to use if no others are 
> found, but it doesn't utilize GTK2. What other options do I have?

Balsa perhaps ? I use Evolution, but it still uses GTK1.

Xav


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Re: console messages flit by too fast

2003-01-05 Thread Paul Lewis
Have you tried scroll lock? I seem to recall it worked for me when I 
had this type of issue

On 2003.01.04 17:57 Dan Jacobson wrote:
I can't believe this is still not solved.  I boot the system.  I see
some ominous warnings. They scroll by so fast and are gone.
E.g. something about mtab.  Ok, cd /var/log; grep mtab * */*
Nothing.

You will answer "oh, mtab, don't worry about that".
But the general problem of messages that appear at boot but go off the
screen is not solved for me still.  Am I really supposed to hit ^S^Q
like back 30 years ago?  What if I am not fast enough still?

You will answer: that is the fault of whatever package author for also
not logging his message to syslog.  But that isn't helping me: what
package? the name went by too fast.

Isn't there something that I can turn on to capture all these, or are
we too early in the startup?

Am I supposed to boot my system thru some remote terminal like the
certainly must do a Linux Labs so they can scroll back?  But I only
have 1 equipment and am not into learning something fancy.

Perhaps all the stupid questions I post about why I can't enter the
audio age could be solved if I didn't miss one of those ominous
messages that go by too fast.

I hit ALT CTRL F1 etc. but I don't suppose those `man console(4)` tty
can be scrolled backwards.
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Re: More Voodoo Graphics

2003-01-05 Thread Burkhard Ritter
On 4 Jan 2003, Dennis Krinke wrote:

> I have a Diamond Monster 3d 4Mb Voodoo graphics card. 
> I used to use it with SuSE 6.4 and xfree86 3.3.6. and
> could play tuxracer and bzflag. 
> 
> Since I upgraded to xfree86 4, I have not been able to 
> configure the voodoo(1) graphics chipset. 
> I am running debian testing, xfree86 4.2.1 and 
> kernel 2.4.18-k6. The pertinent packages are:
[...]
> 
> If I try tuxracer, I get the extreme slow response 
> characteristic of software 3D. 
> 
> I have tried using the kernel module sstfb.o :
>  * linux/drivers/video/sstfb.c -- voodoo graphics frame buffer
>  * $Id: sstfb.c,v 1.26.4.1 2001/08/29 01:30:37 ghoz Exp $
> with some success.
> 
> I have one monitor connected to my S3 2D video card, 
> and a second monitor connected to the voodoo 3D card.
> According to the sstfb README, I should load sstfb with:
> insmod sstfb.o  but this gives the error:
> sstfb.o: unresolved symbol fbcon_cfb16_R1b46d337
> But  modprobe sstfb.o  loads the module and
> lsmod gives:
> Module  Size  Used by
> sstfb  10836 126 
> fbcon-cfb16 3880   0  [sstfb]
> 
[...]

I am not sure, but this module seems to be a framebuffer driver or
something like this and will therefore not work with xfree.

Have a look at http://www.xfree86.org/4.2.1/glide.4.html. It might be what
you are looking for.

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Re: spamassassin setup / exim

2003-01-05 Thread Ramin Motakef
will trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> okay, i've browsed dman's spamassassin setup at
>
> and i've got it, well, doing something...
>
> it seems to add a whole new slew of headers, a blank line and
> then repeats the original headers and message:
>
> --snip---
>
> aaugh! my spam-relevant exim.conf portions are:
>
>   # Spam Assassin Transport
>   spamcheck:
>   driver = pipe
>   command = /usr/sbin/exim -oMr spam-scanned -bS
>   transport_filter = /usr/bin/spamc -u ${local_part}

which spamassassin version? man spamc from unstable says:
 
-u username
   This argument has been obsoleted.  To have spamd use
   per-user-config files, run spamc as the user whose config
   files spamd should load. 

for me it works fine without any options to spamc...

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adding linux-debian in my Windows XP

2003-01-05 Thread Mumtazjiddan
Hi,

   can anyone help me to install debian in my windows XP. Should I do partition, and do I need to get debian software to have half of my laptop contains of debian and another half of windows XP. can anyone give me idea is it okay to do partition using magic partition?

TQ


dselect purge

2003-01-05 Thread willem
Hi,

Relative newbie, been wondering about dselect purge option...
I had installed quite a bit of stuff and decided to do a major cleanup since
most of my time is on console anyways cause i'm still learning
Anyways..in dselect i set all these packages to purge.
The thing is that after the purge/remove process has finished i still have 
quite a lot of dirs like gnome...afterstep...etc etc directories in my regular 
home dir. And during purging i also see the 'blahblah dir not empty so not 
removed'  message flash by...with dirs outside home.

Is there a way to make dpkg/deselect purge to really purge...as in..dump it all.
I guess  it is like it is to prevent user placed or app generated files from getting 
deleted but it is rather annoying that purge doesn't really purge. 

cheers


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Re: Chat servers

2003-01-05 Thread Rico -mc- Gloeckner
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:52:30PM -0600, Jacob S. wrote:
> Thanks to all for all the suggestions. Does anyone know of a client or
> server implementation for irc or jabber that could be embedded into an
> html webpage, thus allowing users to login and chat w/o having to
> install additional software? I'm not currently aware of any, which is
> the reason I was looking at something along the lines of what

For IRC there are two ways to embed Chat into a Homepage.
Which one you use depends on three Factors:
 - Your Users are behind Firewalls: Yes/No
 - You run your own IRC Server: Yes/No
 - The Box which runs the HTML-embedded Client is weak: Yes/No

The First one, preferred if your Users do NOT run behind Firewalls, you
have to use use foreign IRC Servers and if your Webserver is
weak is Javachat; the User downloads a small Applet and connects
directly to the IRC Server. He shows up on IRC with his own IP.

The Second one, preferred if your User DO run behind Firewalls, You use
your own administered IRC Server and your Webserver is NOT weak is
something like CGI::IRC. That means, the User connects to a CGI, which
connects to the IRC Server. The User appears on IRC with the IP of your
Webserver. Drawback to this is that most IRC Networks forbid more then
a certain amount of connections from one IP, so you had to ask Admins of
that Server to raise that Limits.

For both Solutions there should be a certain Amount of Programs already
visible on Freshmeat.


hth,
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root or non-root for make-kpkg?

2003-01-05 Thread Tim
Hi,

I installed a new kernel as per:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en

as non-root.  make-kpkg failed, with this error:

need root priviledges
make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1

Is there a simple solution to this?  I proceeded as root without further 
problems.

Thanks.  Tim



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Re: adding linux-debian in my Windows XP

2003-01-05 Thread Ernst-Magne Vindal

Hi

I would to a rezising af the hd witn pqmagic, and then make the ext2(3)
partitions during the innstall of debian.

Then make sure your c: drive is bootable and make at least a /(root), SWAP
and /home partition from the debian fdisk during install.

when debian is up and running, install lilo as bootloader and add:

other=/dev/hda1(that is if your c: partition is at the beginnig of hda)
optional

to lilo.conf

/ernst

On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
>can anyone help me to install debian in my windows XP. Should I do
> partition, and do I need to get debian software to have half of my laptop
> contains of debian and another half of windows XP. can anyone give me idea is
> it okay to do partition using magic partition?
>
> TQ
>






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Re: adding linux-debian in my Windows XP

2003-01-05 Thread Wim De Smet
Your question is a bit vague, but I'll try to give some clues.

On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:18:03 EST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>can anyone help me to install debian in my windows XP. 

First of all, make sure you have a windows xp bootdisk, in case you can't figure out 
how
to install a bootloader and need to post another message to ask ppl.

> Should I do 
> partition, and do I need to get debian software to have half of my laptop 
> contains of debian and another half of windows XP. 

this is very well possible, you just need to have free space on your hard drive,
do the debian install, then boot into it and then (!) don't forget: install a 
bootloader,
I'd suggest lilo (because I use it). when you first boot into your new debian system,
make sure you install lilo, switch to a terminal, login as root and read the manpage
about lilo.conf (man lilo.conf). After reading it, make your own /etc/lilo.conf with
the desired options, then run the command "lilo". If everything is allright with your
config file, lilo will simply install itself in the bootsector.

If you have trouble use one of the example files (probably found in 
/usr/share/doc/lilo/examples,
something like that). It is also wise to create a linux bootdisk during install because
lilo may not detect all logical errors in your setup (for instance forgetting to add a 
root=/dev/hda1
or similar which will cause kernel panic)

> can anyone give me idea is 
> it okay to do partition using magic partition?

Best thing to do is just resize your windows partition with partition magic. Guessing 
on the size of your
disc, if it is around 40gig, you might wanna reserve about 10 gigs of it for GNU/Linux 
(so resize the win
partition(s) to a total of 30).

> 
> TQ
> 

Finally, to install a debian system, I'd suggest you print out the help pages found at 
http://www.debian.org/
and keep them around during install, they might help you more than my short message 
(after all people wrote
them for this very purpose).

mvg,
Wim


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Re: avi, mpeg

2003-01-05 Thread Robert Storey
For mpegs, I like gtv better than xine. The package for installing it is
not called "gtv" but rather "smpeg-gtv". Nevertheless, from an xterm,
you invoke it with the command "gtv".

regards,
Robert

On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 16:42:22 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Antonio Rodriguez said:
> > What would be the best to see some avi or mpeg movies? Or converter
> > from avi to mpeg?
> > Using woody 3.0


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Re: Real Text-Mode

2003-01-05 Thread Robert Storey

> On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 08:56:41AM +0100, Harald Wopenka wrote:
> > Does anyone know how to tell debian it should not switch to graphic
> > mode?(640x480 16 cols) I want it to boot in ordinary textmode, but I
> > wasn't able to do it. vga=normal in lilo.conf did not work. Using
> > rdev to alter the kernel file did not work either...

Ah, yes, I asked the same question a few weeks ago on this list, and
some kind soul responded with the correct answer (sorry, I can't
remember his name, but I remember his answer).

Rather than "vga=normal", try using this:

video=vga16:off

Don't know exactly why it works, but it works.

regards,
Robert



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Re: root or non-root for make-kpkg?

2003-01-05 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:02:19 +
Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I installed a new kernel as per:
> 
> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
> 
> as non-root.  make-kpkg failed, with this error:
> 
> need root priviledges
> make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1
> 
> Is there a simple solution to this?  

yes there is:

  apt-get install fakeroot

and then:

  fakeroot make-kpkg 


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Re: Strange Number Lock Behavior

2003-01-05 Thread Seneca
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:07:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:49:06PM -0500, Erinn wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Previously, I had an all text Debian firewall. Everytime I would boot
> > it, the number lock would turn off. I thought it was specific to that
> > box until I installed Debian on my workstation. The behavior persists
> > and as I'd never witnessed it in any previous operating system, I
> > thought it was Debian-specific, and was wondering two things:
> > 
> > 1. Has anyone else experienced this?
> 
> All Linux users have.  The kernel pretty much assumes the BIOS is an
> idiot and ignores it.
>
> > 2. If so, is there any way to stop it? 
> 
> Probably.  Easiest is to hit number lock.  8:o)

Take a look at /etc/console-tools/config.

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Network trouble

2003-01-05 Thread chris1622
Please help

I can't find what I'm doing wrong, my debian-woody only looks 
localy for internetnames (www.freshmeat.net), altough accessing 
the internet with ip numbers works fine.

What more than route, /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts must be 
configured?

Im using a winmodem and wvdial for internetconnections. i don't 
think it should matter but I'm using wvdial from debian-potato, since 
the woody release didn't work.

The lynx error looks like this:
-->
Looking up www.freshmeat.net first
Looking up www.freshmeat.net.com, guessing
Looking up www.freshmeat.net.edu, guessing
Looking up www.freshmeat.net.net, guessing
Looking up www.freshmeat.net.org, guessing
Can't Access 'file://localhost/root/www.freshmeat.net'
Alert! Unable to access document.

lynx: Can't access startfile
<--

-->
route table has the default gw:
Destination:default
Gateway: my_dyn_ip
Genmask: 0.0.0.0
Flags:UG
Metric: 0
Ref: 0
Use: 0
Iface: ppp0
<--

-->
/etc/resolv.conf has the by my internet provider supplied 
nameservers:
name server 10.0.0.1
name server 10.0.0.2
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Re: dselect purge

2003-01-05 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:48:02 +0100
willem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The thing is that after the purge/remove process has finished i still
> have quite a lot of dirs like gnome...afterstep...etc etc directories
> in my regular home dir. 

These files are indeed not removed, and that's a good thing IMHO. You
don't want to mess around with users personal files...

> And during purging i also see the 'blahblah
> dir not empty so not removed'  message flash by...with dirs outside
> home.

This is a known bug in dpkg and I think a saw a patch for it some time
ago, so this is or will be fixed.

grts Tim


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Plain Tex to Latex, hevea

2003-01-05 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I am running into some trouble here with hevea: I have a bunch of plain 
tex files that I need to convert to html, but hevea is coming back with 
a bunch of errors, since it is expecting Latex commands. Any 
suggestions? May be some plain to latex converter?
Thanks


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Re: /etc/rc?.d/S*

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 06:47:03PM +0200, Johan Ehnberg wrote:
> Is this what you're looking for?
> 
> "update-rc.d my_script start XX 2 3 4 5 . stop YY 0 1 6 ."
> 
> Notice the dots. Place your script in /etc/init.d/ and the rest is 
> obvious. 0..6 are runlevels, XX and YY simply the order (SXX and KYY).

Also, if you're lazy like me, try rcconf.  Simple yes-or-no for each
daemon.

-rob



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Re: Security Question

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 12:27:34PM -0800, John Gedeon wrote:
> Thanks for all the help Colin,
> 
>   I will try that as soon as I get the chance.

Another thought: Are they using any sort of reasonably standard VPN?
There're a few different ipsec-based vpn packages in Debian, including
FreeSwan and openvpn.  Perhaps you could get one of them to work with
your companies system?

-rob



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Re: glade alocal.m4 error

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 08:46:08AM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> Further googling on this has lead me to discover that I don't have the
> following in my /usr/share/aclocal directory:
> 
> gtk.m4
> glib.m4
> libtool.m4

They're in the appropriate -dev packages, which you'll need to have to
build anything anyway :)  Install libtool, libgtk-dev and libglib-dev.
Also, if you run into problems like this in the future,
http://packages.debian.org/ lets you find which package contains a
particular file.

-rob



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Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 07:35:41PM +0100, mess-mate wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:16:03 -0800 (PST)
> "nate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | nick lidakis said:
> | > I was looking to replace my 1Ghz P3 and motherboard with  a stable,  but
> | > fast mb/cpu combo that was fully supported by a recent linux kernel. I
> | > was looking a an Intel 845PE motherboard with a 3.0Ghz cpu. My question
> | > is, how is Hyperthreading supported under linux? Is it a matter of
> | > enabling SMP in the kernel? Anyone playing with one of these CPU's?
> | 
> | 
> | it is supported by default. the system will see double the cpus there
> | actually are. the kernel isn't tuned to fully take advantage of the
> | hyperthreading yet though. I think newer 2.5.x kernels can do it, perhaps
> | theres a patch for 2.4.x.. but last I read the current breed of stable
> | kernels are not optimized for it.
> | 
> | If I had a system with hyperthreading I would disable the hyperthreading
> | in the bios(one mailing list thread mentioned there is an option to do
> | so, at least on some systems). Because the kernel would get confused and
> | think there are 4 processors on a 2 processor system it might try to get
> | smart by loading stuff up on processor #2, not knowing its the same physical
> | processor as #1, before loading stuff on #3. I don't remember any benchmark
> | numbers but I seem to recall there being very little if any difference
> | in performance on hyperthreaded systems with hyperthreading on vs. off
> | on the stock kernels(performance can go way up on the newer 2.5.x which
> | are tuned to take advantage of it in some cases).
> | 
> | I've read one post on the redhat list recently, some guy was asking why
> | top showed 4 cpus on his dual p4, since it was a dual cpu system, a guy
> | responded because it was hyperthreading ...
> | 
> | so it should work, just not very optimal.
> | 
> | nate
> | 
> Well, ASUS suggest to compile with the Hyper-Threading compiler ???
> What about this compiler ?

I'd say they mean Intel's non-Free C/C++ compiler.  It costs a bucket in
general, but I think it's free (as in beer) for personal use.  Of
course, the C++ compiler's ABI is incompatible with every GCC release
thus far (not that GCC is even compatible with itself, across releases),
so you'll have a hell of a time getting it to integrate int your Debian
system, if you decide to use it.  Depending on what you do, it can
apparently lead to enormous speedups (mostly with numerical code
though, or so I hear), but GCC 3.x is closing the gap...

Anyhow, I can't imagine that a smart compiler could do *that* much to
help, since getting good performance on multi-processor systems is more
of a programming design issue, rather than compiler smarts.  No doubt
having two 'CPU's in the once chip, sharing registers and cache requires
some compiler intelligence though.

-rob



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Re: perl 5.6.1-8 vs 5.6.1-7

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 12:49:59PM -0500, Mark Copper wrote:
> I'm trying to install Perl onto a new system.  "apt-get install perl" 
> won't work because perl-base is required and a conflict arises.  That 
> is, "apt-get install perl-base" says the latest version is already 
> installed, but this appears to be version 5.6.1-7, and "apt-get install 
> perl" wants version 5.6.1-8.
> 
> Could this be related to having Debian security in my sources.list?  I 
> see from the debian-changes list that 5.6.1-8 was accepted in November.  
> But the distribution is "testing-security".  How is that different from 
> simply "testing"?

Could you post your sources.list?  According to apt-cache, testing has
5.6.1-7 atm...I don't have the security line though (since I actually
run sid), so maybe it's got a newer version.

-rob



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Re: Connecting Gnome cdplayer-applet to CD drive

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:43:08PM -0600, Larry Hunsicker wrote:
> Hi folks:
> 
> Much progress with my new box running linux 2.4.20, but a new problem.
> I have sound working correctly.  (I can play a .wav file.)  I have my
> two CDs working correctly as data drives.  But when I try to play a
> music CD, the machine chooses to connect the cdplayer-applet to the
> second CD drive (a read-write) rather than to my first CD drive (a
> CD/DVD drive).
> 
> Of course, I could just switch the jumper that carries the music to the
> sound card from the first to the second CD drive.  But there must be a
> way to change the device assignment so that the cdplayer-applet goes to
> the first rather than to the second CD drive.

It doesn't let you select which drive to use?  Weird...Try switching the
/dev/cdrom symlink around it, it might be making it's decision based on
that.

-rob



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Re: IP Masq troubles

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 12:29:50AM -0500, David P James wrote:
> I am getting quite frustrated at not being able to do something that I 
> once was able to do without any trouble... set up IP maquerading.
> 
> Here's the box: 3.0r1, Kernel 2.2.20 (gave up on trying to 
> compile/install a 2.4.x kernel). eth1 is the external, eth0 internal.

Have you heard about the kernel-image packages?  apt-get install
kernel-image-2.4.18-, where arch is something like 386, 686, k7 or
whatever.  They contain full kernel images, with most everything you
could want compiled as modules.  Install one, reboot into it and use
modconf to load the approprate modules and you should be all set.  Also,
there's a package called 'ipmasq' that'll handle most any sort of NAT
you could want.

-rob



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Re: need help with phpgroupware

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:43:39PM -0500, Brad Cramer wrote:
> I am trying to install phpgroupware on a Debian Woody system, everything is
> installed and I can get to the login screen, but it is complaining about not
> finding db support. I have php4, mysql, apache and php-mysql installed so I
> can't seem to figure out what the problem is. I have checked the phpinfo and
> it say's --with-mysql=shared/usr should'nt this take care of mysql support
> in php?

Have you searched the archives?  There was a rather long thread about
setting up phpgroupware a couple of weeks ago...

-rob



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Re: USB??

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 09:04:02PM +, Paul Lewis wrote:
> I have just added USB to my kernel, I would like to use usbnet to talk 
> to my pda. I do not seem to have a device usb0 in /dev/usb so I wonder 
> should I create one and if so how?
> 
> mkdev?
> 
> if so what switches.

If it's a Palm or a Handspring, search the archives.  This has come up a
few times in the past couple of weeks.

-rob



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Re: How to enable non-standard tcp port connections from a non-localhost machine?

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 09:23:44PM -0800, Michael Toomim wrote:
> I'm trying to set up an ssh tunnel from a machine behind a firewall to a 
> machine with a public IP with a command like this:
> 
> $ ssh -R 20150:localhost:22 computer.server.com
> 
> This should cause port 2501 on computer.server.com to be an alias for 
> port 22 (sshd) on my local computer.
> 
> This command executes fine.  However, when I try to ssh to port 2501 
> from an outside computer, I get a "connection refused" error:
> 
> $ ssh -p 20150 computer.server.com
> ssh: connect to host computer.server.com port 20150: Connection refused
> 
> Something isn't letting my connection through.  The weird thing is that 
> I CAN connect to this port from computer.server.com, with the command:
> 
> $ ssh -p 20150 localhost
> 
> ... but I CAN'T connect from any other computer, or even from 
> computer.server.com using its ip address instead of "localhost":
> 
> $ ssh -p 20150 128.32.37.60
> ssh: connect to host 128.32.37.60 port 20150: Connection refused
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I have to do to fix this?  I've had this problem 
> both on sid and woody.  I've removed both the iptables and ipchains 
> packages.  My hosts.allow and hosts.deny are both empty (I tried adding 
> hosts explicitly to hosts.allow as well, just to check).  This seems to 
> be a problem ONLY with ports I create myself -- the ports used by 
> apache, sshd, etc. all work fine and I can cannect to them from 
> anywhere.  This also seems to be somewhat debian-specific: the ssh 
> command I used above works fine when I'm trying to forward packages 
> through a redhat or solaris box.

Have you tried using netstat to see where ssh is listening?  If it's
bound itself to the 'lo' interface (local loopback) you'd get exactly
this behaviour.  No idea how to fix it, even if I'm right, but it might
point you in a useful direction :-)

-rob



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Re: Modem HSP on-board

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:57:37PM -0300, Rodrigo F. Baroni wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
>   Does anybody knows how to configure a on-board HSP
> modem (it's a lmr 591 mother-board, pentium 233mhz).

Try http://linmodems.org/, it *might* be supported...

-rob



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Re: SOLVED: Re: starting X

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 04:26:09PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> it seems weird to me that i'm in the group 'nori' and not 'users', but

Debian creates a new user for each group by default.  I think it's
possible to change that, but I've never felt the need...

> the permissions on my homedir are correct, and i can create
> directories and files myself.  they *were* weird when i copied
> everything from CD (everything was 444, pretty much -- but my homedir
> never was) ... but i've changed the only ones that matter, afaict.

Ouchy.  I had this problem when I restored from a CD too.  In future
I'll be much more careful with my mkisofs options.  The only programs
that really cared for me tho were SSH and GPG, for obvious reasons :)

-rob



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Re: Understanding Font Paths

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 03:31:45PM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I am running kde under debian unstable and something weird has suddenly 
> happened to the fonts in konsole.

Heh, I wrote all the below before even seeing this actual question!
Which font are you trying to use?  the xfonts-konsole one?  It doesn't
seem to be in sid ATM, so I guess it's one of Karolina's or Ralf's
packages.  I'd ask them about it directly or on d-kde...One thought tho,
have you added /usr/share/fonts/ (where you say it drops the fonts) to
your XF86Config-4?

> Before starting, I should state that I "think" I am running the Xserver 
> without an additional font server (ie neither xfs or xfs-xtt, not xfstt), as 
> I can't quite understand why I should need it .  I presume that the 
> libfreetype module loaded by the x-server should suffice.[So if someone can 
> explain why ought to use pne of the above font servers I would be interested 
> to listen]

AFAIK, this is correct.  XFree86 4.0 introduced support for TrueType
fonts, so a font server is useless for 99% of users.  If you have a
bunch of machines, it might be useful to share fonts amongst them, but
aside from that, 'no'.

> Anyway, I have started to look at the various packages and config files that 
> seem to be in use and as far as I can see, I have at least four copies of 
> some x fonts (particularly the truetype ones) stored on my system
> 
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts (with /usr/lib/X11/fonts via symlink)

Contains fonts from the xfonts-* packages, AFAIK.

> /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs

On my system, the files in here are mostly symlinks to
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/, and thus take up virtually no space.  AIUI,
the x-ttcidfont-conf package symlinks all your truetype fonts into here
so you can just point X, or ghostscript or whatever at just *one*
directory, instead of a whole bunch.  I point X at this to catch all the
truetype fonts I might install.

> /var/lib/defoma/gs.d/dirs/fonts (not sure this is not just ghostscript - but 
> there are truetype fonts in this directory)

Hmmm...on my system, ghostscript owns this...There is a gsfonts-x11 that
claims to let X use ghostscript fonts...

Oh, wait.  It's all symlinks too.  I guess it's central location for
ghostscript to find all it's fonts...Again, it takes up no space since
it's all symlinks.

> and
> /usr/share/fonts.

This contains actual fonts for me.  All from msttfcorefonts, AFAICT.

> Why the separate places, and which one is correct.

Just for simplicity I guess.  xfonts-* packages dump their fonts in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts, everything else goes in /usr/share/fonts/.
The others are just symlink farms to simplify things.  FWIW, I have the
following FontPath lines:
FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"

> My /etc/X11/XFConfig-4 has the following in it
> 
> Section "Files"
>   FontPath  "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
>   FontPath  "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
>   FontPath  "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
>   FontPath  "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
>   FontPath  "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
>   FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
>   FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
>   FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
>   FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
>   FontPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
> # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
> EndSection
> 
> Since this part of the the file is controlled by debconf - why has it not 
> added the /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs lines into XFConfig-4.

I'm not sure, but I think there's a policy that packages are not allowed
to fiddle with each other's configuration files like that.
x-ttcidfont-conf does tell you (as a debconf notice, IIRC) to add
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs to your XF86Config-4 file
though.

> As you can see /usr/share/fonts does not figure - however, the package 
> xfonts-konsole puts its fonts into the top level of /usr/share/fonts  (in a 
> compressed form?) and then there are type1 and truetype subdirectories with 
> further directories underneath.

Hmmm...sounds like a package bug or such, I'd imagine some sort of
hierarchy is intended in /usr/share/fonts/...

> Now in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf there is a list of directories that includes 
> /usr/share/fonts but NOT /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs

Ah...fontconfig is brand spanking new, and only entered sid a little
while ago (weeks).  It should probably integrate with x-ttcidfont-conf
more neatly.  Maybe file a wishlist bug against it?

> On top of all of this, there is a kde font installer.  It seems 

Re: HELP FOR IMAC XFree86Config-4 file

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 10:17:02PM +0100, Bruno Giordan wrote:
> I set up debian 3 Woody base system on my imac 350 mhz ppc.
> 
> Then I installed the X server and kde .2.
> 
> Xserver complains in the log of a missing driver for the Ati video 
> chip, and indicates all the available Ati Rage 128 drivers available.
> 
> Imac system profiler gives Ati rage 128 VR as my imac video card.
> 
> The VR model is not listed in the log.
> 
> How should I behave to configure XF86 correctly, provided that this is 
> the only problem?

I don't know the answer myself, but google is your friend.  I'm certain
someone else in the world has got this working and posted a message that
got archived or put up a website.  Another idea is
http://imaclinux.net/, I think.

-rob



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Re: fetchmail can't send to exim

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 11:05:05PM -0700, J. Scott Edwards wrote:
> I'm just using 'mail' for the time being.  I configured exim to relay
> it to the exchange server, but it isn't configured to allow relay, and I
> have no control over it.  

Wouldn't people using outlook or whatever by relaying through the
exchange server anyway?  I don't know much about SMTP, but I thought
this was the same process as what you're trying to do...

> I guess I could just configure exim to send it
> itself, but I need some way so that it doesn't inclue the debian host's
> name in the 'from' address so that it is the same as if it came from the
> exchange server.

You can certainly do this.  My mail claims to be from
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but if you look through the headers for it, you'll
find that it goes from this work station, through to my mail server,
then straight to murphy.debian.org, without passing through any
intermediary.  You just need to tell exim to trust your local user (with
the 'trusted_users' option) and tell your MUA to set whatever From: line
you like.  Well, that's how I do it...If I'm wrong, someone please tell
me!  Previously, I sent direct from this machine onto the Internet, and
that worked fine as well.

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Re: Re: Re: Chat servers

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 06:37:34AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> rack off.
> 
> Dean McEwan, If the drugs don't work, [sarcasm] take more...[/sarcasm].

Oh, crap, don't start this *again*.  Also, your mailer is *still*
broken.  Please don't tell me you're posting to lkml from your WebTV...

-rob



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Re: home/end keys in emacs -nw under eterm

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 02:25:04AM +0200, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am experiencing problems using gray home/end keys in emacs -nw under
> eterm (all latest versions from sid). When I press them, the screen just
> flashes (as visual bell).

Hmmm...weird.  They just don't do anything for me.  They do work in vim
however.

> How can I make them work?
> 
> I know the classic C-a and C-e, however, I'm really accustomed to
> home/end from Linux console, where they work fine.
> 
> I've searched google, the archives and tried adding khome=\E[7~,
> kend=\E[8~ to the eterm terminfo and things like (global-set-key [home]
> 'beginning-of-line) to ~/.emacs, but this didn't solve the problem.

What codes do they generate?  Run 'cat' and hit home then end.  I get
this:
^[[7~^[[8~

I don't really know what else to say, terminfo is very black magic for
me...

-rob



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Re: Network trouble

2003-01-05 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 12:56:57 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> Im using a winmodem and wvdial for internetconnections. i don't 
> think it should matter but I'm using wvdial from debian-potato, since 
> the woody release didn't work.
> 
...
> -->
> /etc/resolv.conf has the by my internet provider supplied 
> nameservers:
> name server 10.0.0.1
> name server 10.0.0.2
> <--
> 
I hope the file says:

nameserver 10.0.0.1
nameserver 10.0.0.2

so without the space between 'name' and 'server'.

If that's not it, I should look into you're dialin app. Some have the
habit of changing /etc/resolv.conf when dialed in.

grts Tim



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Re: /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 10:11:28PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-05 03:58:02 +]:
> > On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 05:23:13PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > Of course, if apt-get ever updates dhclient, the package may overwrite
> > > /etc/dhclient-script, so keep a seperate copy
> > 
> > No, it won't. /etc/dhclient-script is marked as a conffile, so if you've
> > made local changes then they will be preserved; you'll be prompted to
> > merge changes from the package's copy if there are any.
> 
> How is it possible to know that it is marked as a conffile?

Find the package in which it resides (using 'dpkg -S' or 'dlocate'),
then run 'dpkg -s '. The conffiles will be listed.

Cheers,

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Re: how to rename multiple files

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:55:42PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-05 04:04:19 +]:
> > > And I've bumped into this. How *DOES* one test for the existence of
> > > ANY file with a given extension without getting a "too many arguments"
> > > error when there are multiple files?
> > 
> > How about:
> > 
> >   find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.jpg' -print | grep -q .
> 
> Very nice.  But if there _were_ thousands and thousands you spend cpu
> time grep'ing through all of them.  As long as you have one you can
> quit early.  How about this tweak?  Of course you spawn one more
> process.  But it is small and goes away quick.
> 
>   find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.jpg' -print | head -n 1 | grep -q .

-q already stops at the first match, so there is no need to do this. To
be honest I'm more concerned about find spending ages looking for more
than one file (which involves time-consuming system calls, I/O, etc.)
than about grep looking at the output (which doesn't) anyway.

> Doing it this way instead of using the exit code I am trying to avoid
> the pipeline exit code problem.  In older shells it was the return
> code of the last program to exit and not necessary the last program in
> the pipeline.  Perhaps I am too paranoid these days.  Does anyone know
> what the standards (SUSv3?) say about this?

SUSv3:

  If the reserved word ! does not precede the pipeline, the exit status
  shall be the exit status of the last command specified in the
  pipeline. Otherwise, the exit status shall be the logical NOT of the
  exit status of the last command. That is, if the last command returns
  zero, the exit status shall be 1; if the last command returns greater
  than zero, the exit status shall be zero.

SUSv2's text differs only in having "will" instead of "shall".

> > (The first '.' and the '-print' are redundant with GNU find, but useful
> > on other systems.)
> 
> But '-maxdepth 1' is a GNU find extension and so this won't work on
> other systems.

D'oh! Thanks.

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Re: Revert Back to Gnome 1.4 from Gnome2

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 04:48:30AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 07:24:28PM -0800, Itsik Aviad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I would truly appreciat it if somone could tell me how to revert back
> > to Gnome 1.4 from Gnome2?
> 
> IMO this should be filed as a packaging bug.  Gnome2 should be
> distinguished from gnome1 / gnome1.4.

Before filing such a bug, you should probably read the enormously long
discussion on debian-ctte where this was hashed out last summer in order
to have suitable context. The records are in bug #154950.

> Several other packages reflect this, though most are development or
> interpreter packages (e.g.:  Perl, Python, etc.).

Actually, Perl is not organized in the way you suggest any more. It
caused too many problems back when Perl 5.6 was being introduced.

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RE: Secure CGI Implementation/SuEXEC

2003-01-05 Thread Michael Olds
Bill, et al

Just a note to say thank you and that I appreciate that you went to extra
lengths to help me out in this. I have considered the options and have
decided that I am going to go with a single CGI bin with one administrator
(me); suEXEC disabled.

I did attempt setting up suEXEC in both /home/user/public_html and /var/www/
but it was late and it was giving me grief and I decided to take a hint. I
may give this a shot again when I am more comfortable with Linux...meanwhile
this is an option where I do not need to worry about user's passwords
falling into the wrong hands.

Best Wishes!
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Re: Darell Speirer/BJS/BJSERVICES is out of the office.

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:59:23PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:23:06AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I will respond to your message when I return. If you are in need of
> > immediate assistance please resend to Barbara Day at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
> > call 281-357-2867.
> 
> This is a good example of why vacation messages should never be
> propagated out of the office network...

I never have a use for vacation messages except when they're propagated
out of the office network (i.e. everybody in my company already knows
I'm on holiday; it's my contacts in other companies who have a use for
the autoresponses).

It's a good example of why vacation programs should never be implemented
by people who don't understand "Precedence: list", though. Precedence:
is a hack, but it's about the best we've got.

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Re: Darell Speirer/BJS/BJSERVICES is out of the office.

2003-01-05 Thread Bill Moseley
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:59:23PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> It's a good example of why vacation programs should never be implemented
> by people who don't understand "Precedence: list", though. Precedence:
> is a hack, but it's about the best we've got.

Ya, I love this time of year.  Just how lame can those programmers be?

It would proably be useful if everyone on the list replied back to these
saying they look forward to hearing about their vacation


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Re: Switching to GNOME2

2003-01-05 Thread Ross Burton
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 08:25, Jeremy Tan wrote:
> More GNOME themes are available at http://art.gnome.org. I personally
> use the mist engine, available at
> http://primates.ximian.com/~dave/mist/. 
> It comes with both the GTK and GTK2 themes. It makes minor changes 
> to the way the UI looks instead of just changing the color of the theme.

The mist engine is in Sid, btw.

> > Thirdly, I plan on using pan as my newsclient and am looking for a
> > mailer. Sylpheed looks good, and it will be the one I intend to use if
> > no others are found, but it doesn't utilize GTK2. What other options
> > do I have?

Evolution is IMHO the most capable GTK email client, although currently
its still using GTK+ 1 instead of 2. With matching themes you'll never
know the difference, and the GTK+ 2 port is going very well apparently.

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Re: avi, mpeg

2003-01-05 Thread Lukas Latz
Hi,

I'm running testing so I added

deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main

to my sources.list.
Checked out what's in there (lots of neat looking stuff) and tried to
get some of it with dselect (after updating).
updating claims success regarding that site but in dselect *select* the
apps just don't show up.

any clues?

Lukas


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>> 
>> I'm having problems installing mplayer on my debian, does that
> command
>> up there ^ be enough to compile and create a deb? will I still
> need
>> dependencies like the mplayers in the apt sources? eg.
> libvidencore0
>> 
> I think you need the dev version of the above packages. Before you
> compile your own, have you tried the precompiled versions of mplayer
> from Christian Marillat's site? He has all the dependent packages
> there.
> Check out:
> 
>http://marillat.free.fr/ 
> 
> Alternately, you can add the following line to your apt/sources.list
> 
>deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main
> 
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Re: Will my fonts every look good?

2003-01-05 Thread Bill Moseley
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Jamin W. Collins wrote:

> It might just be me, but I don't really see any problem with the fonts
> in your screen shots with the exception of Abiword (fonts4.png).  That I
> believe is problem of Abiword (I could be wrong).
> 
> Otherwise it appears that your chief complaint may simply be that the
> fonts displayed are not the ones you want?

Well, those might be the same thing.  Yes, some fonts are fine.  

For example, http://hank.org/images/fonts.png the side-bar menu fonts look
worse on mozilla (the one on the left), although I'm using my laptop now
and the look better in that image than on my CRT (Sony 21") on my desktop.
Is mozilla using anti-aliased fonts there?

The other problem with that image is the drop-down form in Opera.  Notice
the "United States" in mozilla with the fonts on Opera.  Much bigger in
Opera.  IIRC I think adding the truetype fonts caused that.

The next image http://hank.org/images/fonts2.png is showing the results of
using XftConfig to enable AA fonts -- the difference is seen in Opera.  I
guess AA fonts are a personal thing, as they look fuzzy to me.

http://hank.org/images/fonts3.png does look better on my laptop than on my
CRT.  The google results in mozilla the characters are of different
thicknesses -- or even different parts of a single character vary in line
thickness.  On my CRT it kind of looks like random characters are bold.

Also in the image you can see xfontsel using the comic sans ms font.  Why
in the world is it doing that?  I have not specified any fonts in
.Xdefaults or any other place that I can think of.

So yes, it's proably a matter of the wrong fonts.

I don't understand how applications like Opera and Mozilla select fonts.
What is Opera doing to get that big thick font for the form elements?  It
would be nice to be able to monitor what fonts the applcication is
requesting and what fonts the X server is supplying.

In the form field case I suspect that Mozilla and Opera are selecting
similar fonts, but different enough that the X server is supplying
very different fonts. 

Thanks very much for the help.

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Re: avi, mpeg

2003-01-05 Thread Johan Ehnberg
On the site http://marillat.free.fr/ there's no mention of testing, only 
woody and sid are available. I guess woody should be safe? I myself use 
woody and use the woody packs from there, they rock!

Hope this helps!

/johan


Lukas Latz wrote:
Hi,

I'm running testing so I added

deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main

to my sources.list.
Checked out what's in there (lots of neat looking stuff) and tried to
get some of it with dselect (after updating).
updating claims success regarding that site but in dselect *select* the
apps just don't show up.

any clues?

Lukas



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Re: how to rename multiple files

2003-01-05 Thread Mark Zimmerman
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 04:13:49AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 06:58:18PM -0700, Mark Zimmerman wrote:
> > shopt -s nullglob
> > SOME=FALSE
> > MATCH=*.jpg
> > for f in $MATCH; do SOME=TRUE; break; done
> > 
> > I tried [ -z $MATCH ] also but it always fails even though echo $MATCH
> > prints an empty string.
> 
> You probably need to double-quote "$MATCH" like so.
> 

Yes, but that's not all. Setting MATCH=*.jpg does not seem to trigger
the globbing function in bash, to my surprise. The following does
work, though:

shopt -s nullglob
MATCH=$(printf %s *.jpg)
if [ -n "$MATCH" ]; then SOME=TRUE; else SOME=FALSE; fi

By the way, I noted many solutions in other threads that should also
work fine. The reason I wanted to figure this one out is because it
relies only on shell internals. In the event that huge lists of files
are involved it may be faster.

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Fixed: SoundBlaster Live

2003-01-05 Thread Willem-Jan Meijer
modprobe emu10k1 was enough

Thanks,

Willem-Jan


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Re: Will my fonts every look good?

2003-01-05 Thread Stig Are M. Botterli
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Z Maze wrote:
> "Stig Are M. Botterli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Moseley 
>wrote:
>>>
>>> ii  gsfonts-x110.16   Make Ghostscript fonts available to X11.
>>
>> This package is a real uglificator. Replace it with a dummy equiv.
> 
> Why do you say that?  That package makes the PostScript fonts included
> with the GhostScript PS interpreter available to X.  My experience has
> been that PostScript fonts are generally superior to bitmapped fonts,
> except at what these days are unusually low resolutions; if you want a
> non-standard resolution, bitmapped fonts are right out.  I'd actually
> consider this package essential to coming up with font support that
> doesn't suck.

Superior to bitmapped fonts, sure, but inferior to the scalable fonts it
overrode. When I googled for a quick fix to my problem, I found I wasn't the
only person who had issues with this package.




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Shouldn't the floppy module got loaded automatically?

2003-01-05 Thread Shaul Karl
  Starting with an attempt to dd a file to /dev/fd0 I was surprised to
find out that there is no such device or address.

/tmp$ dd if=net-1440.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k
dd: opening `/dev/fd0': No such device or address
/tmp$ 

  But then I found out that the floppy module was not loaded.

/tmp$ /sbin/lsmod |grep floppy
/tmp$

  Wasn't it supposed to get loaded automatically once dd was attempting
to access it? It does get loaded automatically with cat /dev/fd0:

/tmp$ cat /dev/fd0>bla
/tmp$ /sbin/lsmod |grep floppy
floppy 46428   0 (autoclean)
/tmp$
  
  And now the dd command succeeds.

/tmp$ dd if=net-1440.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
1474560 bytes transferred in 1.228509 seconds (1200284 bytes/sec)
/tmp$ 

  Is it a dd bug? Is it something else? Does it have something to do
with the way dd opens its output device? This is a personal desktop,
which is why I am assured nothing else beside the cat command got the
floppy module loaded.

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Re: how to rename multiple files

2003-01-05 Thread Bill Moseley
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Mark Zimmerman wrote:

> Yes, but that's not all. Setting MATCH=*.jpg does not seem to trigger
> the globbing function in bash, to my surprise. The following does
> work, though:
> 
> shopt -s nullglob
> MATCH=$(printf %s *.jpg)
> if [ -n "$MATCH" ]; then SOME=TRUE; else SOME=FALSE; fi

Ok, I realize this is about how to rename in a shell script, but...

Sure seems like this is one of those problems that Perl would make simple.

I'd probably call perl from procmail, split out the mime parts, create a
unique file name and perhaps update a database index and then set a flag
so a cron will see an update and generate a new web page using
Tempate-Toolkit...

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Re: Understanding Font Paths

2003-01-05 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Sunday 05 Jan 2003 3:43 am, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 03:31:45PM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > I am running kde under debian unstable and something weird has suddenly
> > happened to the fonts in konsole.
>
> Heh, I wrote all the below before even seeing this actual question!
> Which font are you trying to use?  the xfonts-konsole one?  It doesn't
> seem to be in sid ATM, so I guess it's one of Karolina's or Ralf's
> packages.  

I thought it was xfonts-konsole from Ralf's packages, but thats not the 
problem.

[snip -- interesting, but I sussed most of that now]

What I have now discovered is that when konsole has not ever had a font 
selected and saved before, it asks qt for a list of fonts from the "fixed" 
family and chooses the closest one to pt size 13. (Using qt to select it with 
the hint QFonts::Typewriter]

Installing FontConfig means that the /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file is processed 
which adds a whole load of True Type fonts into the available fixed family, 
and obviously means that qt selects a different one.

Unfortunately there seems to be something wrong with the sizing algorithmn - I 
am not sure of source of this yet, because this means that konsole gets a 
really ugly font.  If I remove fontconfig - then qt now selects the "console" 
font that came from xfonts-konsole, but because of a metric problem it 
displays each character at double the width it ought to, making it completely 
unusable.

You can see a png image of this effect at 
http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=688&action=view
where its been reported as a bug (No 52538).


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Re: Will my fonts every look good?

2003-01-05 Thread Jeremy Tan

On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 06:49:12 -0800 (PST), Bill Moseley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote :

> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> http://hank.org/images/fonts3.png does look better on my laptop than
> on my CRT.  The google results in mozilla the characters are of
> different thicknesses -- or even different parts of a single character
> vary in line thickness.  On my CRT it kind of looks like random
> characters are bold.

The version of mozilla you are using uses freetype to render
anti-aliased fonts. In the latest version of mozilla (1.2.1) there is an
option to use xft to render the fonts. The fonts look much better but
the only downside is that you have to recompile mozilla from source
using the "--enable-xft" flag.


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Re: Will my fonts every look good?

2003-01-05 Thread Ross Burton
On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 16:19, Jeremy Tan wrote:
> The version of mozilla you are using uses freetype to render
> anti-aliased fonts. In the latest version of mozilla (1.2.1) there is an
> option to use xft to render the fonts. The fonts look much better but
> the only downside is that you have to recompile mozilla from source
> using the "--enable-xft" flag.

If you are running Sid, installing "mozilla-xft" gives you a Xft-based
Mozilla.

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RE: Upgrade to Snort 1.9.0

2003-01-05 Thread Stefan Drees
Hi,
thanks for the help it works fine. Debian is great :-).
What is the difference between dpkg-buildpackage and devscripts?


> 
> If you don't want to pull in the dependencies, you will have 
> to build it
> from source, something like this:
> 
> # apt-get devscripts fakeroot
> $ cd .../src
> $ apt-get source snort
> $ cd snort-1.9.0
> $ debuild
> 
> That will create a package in .../src, which you can then install:
> 
> # dpkg -i .../src/snort_1.9.0*deb
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Re: how to rename multiple files

2003-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-05 13:46:32 +]:
> >   find . -maxdepth 1 -name '*.jpg' -print | head -n 1 | grep -q .
> 
> -q already stops at the first match, so there is no need to do this.

[I had to check.  ;-) The option -q sets done_on_match and the code
quits at the first chance it can.
  grep.c: line 497:
static int done_on_match; /* Stop scanning file on first match */
]

Sweet!  I did not know that.  Thanks for educating me.

>   shall be the exit status of the last command specified in the pipeline

[Therefore I no longer need to worry about the last command that exits
versus the last command in the pipeline.]

I have some scripts that can be cleaned up and simplified.

Thanks again!
Bob



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Re: Strange Number Lock Behavior

2003-01-05 Thread Bob Hilliard
Seneca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:07:59PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 11:49:06PM -0500, Erinn wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > Previously, I had an all text Debian firewall. Everytime I would boot
>> > it, the number lock would turn off. I thought it was specific to that
>> > box until I installed Debian on my workstation. The behavior persists
>> > and as I'd never witnessed it in any previous operating system, I
>> > thought it was Debian-specific, and was wondering two things:
>> > 
>> > 1. Has anyone else experienced this?
>> 
>> All Linux users have.  The kernel pretty much assumes the BIOS is an
>> idiot and ignores it.
>>
>> > 2. If so, is there any way to stop it? 
>> 
>> Probably.  Easiest is to hit number lock.  8:o)
>
> Take a look at /etc/console-tools/config.

 I use `setleds -D +num' from the console-tools package.  I put a
script in /etc/init.d to invoke this for all consoles.

 This is only for the console.  For X you need numlockx, from the
package of the same name. 

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Re: /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten

2003-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-05 13:40:44 +]:
> 
> > How is it possible to know that it is marked as a conffile?
> 
> Find the package in which it resides (using 'dpkg -S' or 'dlocate'),
> then run 'dpkg -s '. The conffiles will be listed.

It is exactly what I was asking for.  However it is not what I was
hoping for.

Reading the man page in detail I can see why I never would have put
those two things together.  Nothing in there says I should be using
this option to look for conf files.

   dpkg -s | --status package-name ...
  plays the entry in the installed package status
  database.  Report status of specified package. This just
  displays the entry in the installed package status
  database.

I had tried the -p option.  Which is very similar.  But it does not
display the conffiles like this -s option does.  One would have to
"become familar with _all_ available information" [US-FAR 91.103
Preflight Action] in order have discerned this capability.

I think I will wishlist an item for dpkg such that it would include an
option to directly list out the conf files.  Similar to the 'rpm -qc'
capability.  Because I can't think of a way to improve the
documentation sufficiently to cover this point.  The raw data is
immediately available in /var/lib/dpkg/info for the program to dump
out in this case and so this would be a simple feature.

Thanks
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Kernel - compile error

2003-01-05 Thread Rodrigo F. Baroni
Hello all,

Kernel 2.4.18 in a 233Mhz PC Pentium 233Mhz,
LMR591 mother board (everything on-board) - after
compile the kernel (#make bzImage) the follow error
appear:

 
 "make: warning: Clock skew detected. Your build
may be incomplete"


  I got to boot with it, but I don't know if it
there isn't some problem... since it will be a node in
a cluster..
  Does anybody knows what's going on ?



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deadkeys

2003-01-05 Thread Beto Reyes

Well, I like the idea of deadkeys, but there are some X apps which do not
recognize them (xchat, xterm, rxvt).. what it is suppouse to be the reason,
thanks.


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Re: Switching to GNOME2

2003-01-05 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Sunday 05 January 2003 02:25 am, Jeremy Tan wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 22:46:55 -0600, "Scott C. Linnenbringer"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
> > Secondly, I want to customize the theme. I've decided to use Metacity,
> > but I assume I have to use a GTK theme, too, to get the themed
> > menubar, buttons, boxes, et cetera. I've been able to use apt to
> > download some themes, but all of the ones I grab from Freshmeat only
> > change the coloring scheme. The interface still looks the same other
> > than a new color.
>
> More GNOME themes are available at http://art.gnome.org. I personally
> use the mist engine, available at
> http://primates.ximian.com/~dave/mist/.
> It comes with both the GTK and GTK2 themes. It makes minor changes
> to the way the UI looks instead of just changing the color of the theme.

Judging from the screenshots, I like mist and wish to try it. However, I'm 
very confused. I have successfully built and installed it, but I have no idea 
how to enable it. As it is not located in the theme selector, where do I 
enable it? Also, I'm equally confused as to how themes work in GNOME. I know 
I need a Metacity theme too, which I have working (and the mist engine 
contains a metacity theme, too, right?), and I assume I need a GTK+ theme for 
a themed UI. Is this correct? Will I need a GTK1 theme to create a themed UI 
for GTK1 applications?

I guess I better get out of this KDE mentality. And thanks to everyone who 
replied.

> > Thirdly, I plan on using pan as my newsclient and am looking for a
> > mailer. Sylpheed looks good, and it will be the one I intend to use if
> > no others are found, but it doesn't utilize GTK2. What other options
> > do I have?
>
> Balsa utilizes GTK2. I haven't tried it out yet though. I use
> Sylpheed-claws (http://sylpheed-claws.sourceforge.net/) for reading all
> mail from mailing lists since its amazingly fast. I also use Evolution
> for
> all my personal email and calendering needs.

Thanks. Balsa and Sylpheed looks like what I'll look at, as I want a 
lightweight and fast, standalone email client as opposed to something like 
Evolution. 


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Help Configuring Sound

2003-01-05 Thread Streph Treadway
Hi all,

Sorry for the newbie question, but I have been having a bear of a 
problem configuring sound under kernel 2.4.19 for my Yamaha opl3sa3.  
My machine is a NEC Direction SPT 200.

Following advice from various lists I have compiled the following as 
modules:
isa-pnp
sound
oss
adlib
opl3sa2
mpu401
mss
ym3812

if I modprobe opl3sa2, the following modules seem to load without 
visible error:
opl3sa2
ad1848
mpu401
sound
isa-pnp

However when I try to start any sound application, I get a "/dev/dsp: 
No such device" error message.  The above modules do not appear to be 
using any ioports or interrupts according to /proc.  dmesg says that 
isapnp, ad1848 and opl3sa2 did not find any plug and play devices.  It 
seems to me that I am not actually successfully loading the modules 
even though they appear when I lsmod.

I am new to 2.4 kernels, but I was under the impression that the isapnp 
module would take care of the ioports and interrupts.

Any suggestions?

Yours,

Streph


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Re: Desperate for Mplayer apt sources[SOLVED] ... Onto another problem with gnome :(

2003-01-05 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 09:38:05PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I hashed some outside apt sources and it somehow fixed up the dependencies 
> of libxvidencore0, mplayer seems to download now. Thanks :) 
> 
> another prob: 
> 
> After rebooting I logged on the usual gnome wm but it just flashes a bit 
> and throws me back to gdm. Kde works though.
> I figure the bogus outside sources could be the reason for all this  I 
> just updated gnome last night with plenty of errors (my fault for updating 
> via damaged apt sources). My XF86 logs doesn't explain much or I could be 
> looking at the wrong logs. Can anyone help?

First step would be to check error files for clues as to what is happening. 
Look in ~/.gnome-errors. Also, check log files in /var/log/gdm directory. 
For a problem occuring with X itself, look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log.

You could also run aptitude (or dselect) and check gnome packages for 
installation status. 

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Re: jigdo iso bootable?

2003-01-05 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:21:23PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> I just created an ISO with jigdo-lite.  
> Are jigdo created iso's bootable?

If they are official isos, then they should be bootable.  Each disk has a different 
kernel to boot with.

HTH,

Brooks


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Re: root or non-root for make-kpkg?

2003-01-05 Thread David Z Maze
Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:02:19 +
> Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I installed a new kernel as per:
>> 
>> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
>> 
>> as non-root.  make-kpkg failed, with this error:
>> 
>> need root priviledges
>> make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1
>
>   fakeroot make-kpkg 

Even better, 'make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot ...'  This will only run
the things that need to be run under fakeroot under fakeroot, in
principle.  In reality, under woody, if you're building add-on
modules, you still need 'fakeroot make-kpkg modules-image'; under sid,
many, but not all, of the modules DTRT with --fakeroot.

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Re: KDE3 -- wich packages to download

2003-01-05 Thread Gerhard Gaussling
Am Samstag, 4. Januar 2003 17:04 schrieb Alan Chandler:
> deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./
>
> Its up to date kde 3.1 debs for woody (although they work on sid -
> apart from kamera)

Hello All,

Am I right if I assume that they will work on a sarge/sid mixed system 
with less flaws too?

TIA

Kind regards 

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Re: Help Configuring Sound

2003-01-05 Thread Ronald Castillo
Have you tried adding the user you work with to group audio? If not, do so, 
then log out ang in again.

Ronald

On Sunday 05 January 2003 20:08, Streph Treadway wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry for the newbie question, but I have been having a bear of a
> problem configuring sound under kernel 2.4.19 for my Yamaha opl3sa3.
> My machine is a NEC Direction SPT 200.
>
> Following advice from various lists I have compiled the following as
> modules:
> isa-pnp
> sound
> oss
> adlib
> opl3sa2
> mpu401
> mss
> ym3812
>
> if I modprobe opl3sa2, the following modules seem to load without
> visible error:
> opl3sa2
> ad1848
> mpu401
> sound
> isa-pnp
>
> However when I try to start any sound application, I get a "/dev/dsp:
> No such device" error message.  The above modules do not appear to be
> using any ioports or interrupts according to /proc.  dmesg says that
> isapnp, ad1848 and opl3sa2 did not find any plug and play devices.  It
> seems to me that I am not actually successfully loading the modules
> even though they appear when I lsmod.
>
> I am new to 2.4 kernels, but I was under the impression that the isapnp
> module would take care of the ioports and interrupts.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Yours,
>
> Streph


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Home wired+wireless network configuration advice needed

2003-01-05 Thread Balazs Javor
Hi,

I would appreciate if somebody could give me some help with the
following network setup problem:

I used to have a very simple home network setup.
All computers plus the DSL router were connected to a single
ethernet switch and were sharing the same subnet.
Each PC had the DSL router as the default gateway, and
each could talk to all other PC, but most importantly to
my fileserver that had some directories exported both through
nfs and samba.
Then I bought a notebook and things got a bit complicated.
The notebook has a built in 100MBit ethernet card, and I also
have a PCMCIA wireless network card (Orinoco Gold). The later
will connect to the network via an access point connected to
the same switch.

Now, what I would like to achieve is pretty simple:
I would like to be able to use either of the two NICs in the notebook
to access the same network.

This mainly because the wireless NICs seem unbearably slow compared
to the 100MBit line when browsing files on the fileserver. e.g.
opening simple pictures can take several seconds etc.
So I thought that I would prefer to use the built in NIC whenever
I am at my desk, where I have a fixed cable I can plug into it.
And use the wireless card whenever I'm somewhere else.

Ideally, I would like to do this without constantly reconfiguring
network interfaces, and if possible without needing to unplug the
PCMCIA card whenever I want to use the other NIC.

I'm certainly no networking expert but I believe I have some basic
understanding about TCP/IP. However I completely lack any experience
in routing and having multiple network interfaces in the same PC.
I've read a bunch of HOWTOs, but I couldn't deduce from them the
best way to proceed...

My first thought was to simply assign two differnt IP addresses
from the same subnet to each of the interfaces. e.g. 192.168.1.10
and 192.168.1.11 However, some people claimed that this is not
possible. (I have a dual boot setup to Windows XP, and XP does not
seem to have a problem with this. Allthough based on the above advise
I usually have only one of the NICs up at any given time, but
I also tried having both and XP didn't complain...)

So if the above is indeed not possible, then I guess I would need
to have either a simple way to switch between the two interfaces,
or I need to configure both NICs to be on a different subnet.
However then there is the issue on how do I access the same Internet
gateway and the same fileserver with both cards?
I guess I would need to add another NIC to one of the other machines,
configure it to be on the second subnet, and then set up some kind
of routing or bridging between the two networks...
Again, I'm not an expert but this seems awfully complicated for such
a simple task. Also this way the network access through that subnet
will depend on the other machine being up and running. Allthough this
is probably not a big problem as the file server is right below my desk
and it is on all the time, but it is still another dependency.

Are there any better solutions?

If not, how would I set up routing between the two subnets?
Should I simply set the default gateway of the second NIC on the
routing machine to be the IP address of the first NIC?
Could I somehow set the metric values of the interfaces somehow,
so that whenever it is up the 100MBit indirect route will be prefered
even though the wireless NIC is directly connected to the other subnet?

Finally for reference, here is my current network setup and what I was
about to do unless someone has a better solution:

Stuff connected to my switch:
- DSL Internet router at 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
- Fileserver at 192.168.1.2 same netmask, gw 192.168.1.1
- Wireless access point at 192.168.1.3 gw 192.168.1.1
- My wife's PC at 192.168.1.4 gw 192.168.1.1
- Notebook either through:
  - 100 Mbit 192.168.1.5 gw 192.168.1.1 or
  - wireless (under XP) 192.168.1.6 gw 192.168.1.6
  usually only one of the is active

What I thought abit doing:
- wireless card on notebook permanently configured as 192.168.1.5
- add NIC to fileserver with 192.168.2.1 gw 192.168.1.2 (!?)
- 100MBit on notebook configured as 192.168.2.2

Questions:
- Is there a better way?
- Would this work?
- Can I connect to shared stuff on other computers (192.168.1. subnet)
  through the 192.168.2.2 interface?
- Can I make it prefer the 192.168.2.2->192.168.1.2->192.168.1.X route
  instead of the direct but slower 192.168.1.5->192.168.1.X route?

Many, many thanks in advance for any help!!!
regards,
Balazs


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Re: KDE3 -- wich packages to download

2003-01-05 Thread ernst

Hi

I'm running sid on a laptop and used the source under, it works fine her.

/ernst


On Sun, 5 Jan 2003, Gerhard Gaussling wrote:

> Am Samstag, 4. Januar 2003 17:04 schrieb Alan Chandler:
> > deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/woody/i386/ ./
> >
> > Its up to date kde 3.1 debs for woody (although they work on sid -
> > apart from kamera)
>
> Hello All,
>
> Am I right if I assume that they will work on a sarge/sid mixed system
> with less flaws too?
>
> TIA
>
> Kind regards
>
> Gerhard Gaussling
>
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sound when playing audio files, but not when playing cd

2003-01-05 Thread Wim De Smet
Hi,

I have a small problem, whenever I try to play a cd (I use gtcd) the cd
starts playing but there is no sound coming out. I don't know why, when
starting gtcd from a terminal and playing the cd I see no error
messages. I checked my mixer settings and cd sound is at same level as
other sounds and not muted. I have an SBlive with the emu10k1 drivers
loaded.

thx,
Wim


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bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread Egor Tur
Hi.
Who can explain?
ps ax | grep lpd
  398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting  
 5593 pts/13   S  0:00 grep lpd
ps ax | grep [l]pd
  398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting

What do [l]?
Thanx.


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Re: root or non-root for make-kpkg?

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 02:42:59PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sun, 05 Jan 2003 12:02:19 +
> > Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I installed a new kernel as per:
> >> 
> >> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html.en
> >> 
> >> as non-root.  make-kpkg failed, with this error:
> >> 
> >> need root priviledges
> >> make: *** [kernel-image-deb] Error 1
> >
> >   fakeroot make-kpkg 
> 
> Even better, 'make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot ...'  This will only run
> the things that need to be run under fakeroot under fakeroot, in
> principle.

You can make this the default by putting 'root_cmd := fakeroot' in
~/.kernel-pkg.conf, too.

> In reality, under woody, if you're building add-on modules, you still
> need 'fakeroot make-kpkg modules-image'; under sid, many, but not all,
> of the modules DTRT with --fakeroot.

Hm. Lucky I don't build any add-on modules, I suppose. :)

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Re: Help Configuring Sound

2003-01-05 Thread Bob Proulx
> On Sunday 05 January 2003 20:08, Streph Treadway wrote:
> > However when I try to start any sound application, I get a "/dev/dsp:
> > No such device" error message.

Ronald Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-05 20:43:08 +0100]:
> Have you tried adding the user you work with to group audio? If not, do so, 
> then log out ang in again.

That shouldn't apply in this case.  If it were the group audio
permission problem then the message would have been "permission
denied" and not "no such device".

> problem configuring sound under kernel 2.4.19 for my Yamaha opl3sa3.

Can you show the output of 'lspci' (from the pciutils package)?  I am
skeptical that you are using the right driver if it is not working.

Can you boot a KNOPPIX cd and see if it detects your sound and if so
copy that configuration?  This is a little bit of effort.  But many
people have found the standalone cd for booting a system useful for
many things and so the effort would hopefully be worthwhile for you as
well.

  http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

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Re: bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread Ron Golan
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:23:16PM +0200, Egor Tur wrote:
> Hi.
> Who can explain?
> ps ax | grep lpd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting  
>  5593 pts/13   S  0:00 grep lpd
> ps ax | grep [l]pd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting
> 
> What do [l]?

When you do 'ps ax | grep [l]pd', the grep process that would show up in
the ps output would be 'grep [l]pd' and that won't match 'lpd' which is
what the '[l]pd' is expanded to by the shell. '[]' is a bracket
expression that's part of regular expressions. It matches any one of the
enclosed list of characters.

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Re: bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 10:23:16PM +0200, Egor Tur wrote:
> ps ax | grep lpd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting  
>  5593 pts/13   S  0:00 grep lpd
> ps ax | grep [l]pd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting
> 
> What do [l]?

Firstly, you want to quote '[l]pd', like so, in case you ever find
yourself running it in a directory where there is a file called lpd.

Secondly, there is no difference between what's matched by the regular
expressions /lpd/ and /[l]pd/ (I'm using the slashes there in
sed/awk/perl style to distinguish them more clearly from strings); both
match the sequence of three characters 'l', 'p', and 'd'. (/[l]/ is a
character class containing only the character 'l'; see 'man 7 regex'.)

The only thing that /[l]pd/ does is ensure that the grep doesn't find
the running grep command itself among the list of running processes
output by 'ps ax'. The regular expression /[l]pd/ does not match the
character string '[l]pd'.

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Help on iptables

2003-01-05 Thread Geoff Hunsicker
Hi, folks:

I have a new machine running Linux 2.4.20 set up as a
bridge between an outside cable service and an
internal home network.  The outside NIC uses DHCP, and
the inside network has a fixed IP address system.

As things stand now, when I take down the firewall
established by the default firestarter config script,
I can see the inside network and the outside network
from the bridge.  From the inside machines I can see
all the other inside machines and the bridge, but not
the outside world.  So both NICs are working
correctly.

When I put the firewall back up, I can no longer see
the inside machines, and they can't see me, but they
can still see each other.

So the problems that I have are that the default
firewall is not permitting any traffic to the inside
network, and the firewall is not forwarding
appropriate inside traffic to the external NIC with
masquerading.

I had gotten pretty much up to speed with ipchains,
but iptables is very new to me.  Could you answer
three questions for me:

1.  What is the magic to open my internal network
(eth0) to all traffic.

2.  What is the magic to permit forwarding and
masquerading of the internal traffic directed to
outside machines?

3.  What is a good source of documentation about
iptables so that I can get up to speed with it.

Many thanks in advance for any help that you can give
me.

Larry Hunsicker


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startx -> lockup; reset -> unlock

2003-01-05 Thread Mark Copper
Following "Debian Reference" I just installed x-window-system package a 
la "Debian reference" (nice job there).

Now startx brings up X but mouse and keyboard are frozen out.  Pushing 
the power button quickly somehow unlocks both mouse and keyboard.

Anyone else have this happen?

I'm installing on an i810 chipset and using Sarge.  There are no error 
messages in the log.

Thanks.

Mark


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Re: bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread Michael Naumann
05.01.2003 21:23:16, "Egor Tur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi.
>Who can explain?
>ps ax | grep lpd
>  398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting  
> 5593 pts/13   S  0:00 grep lpd
>ps ax | grep [l]pd
>  398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting
>
>What do [l]?

That is more a grep question than a a bash question.
grep has a special meaning for [...], i.e match any
character found inside the brackets (also known as
character class).
So "grep [l]pd" will match "lpd" but not "[l]pd" and
thus leave out the match for grep itself.

Nice trick. I usually used
ps ax | grep lpd | grep -v grep
but with that trick, I can shortcut things from now on.

HTH, Michael





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RE: Help Configuring Sound

2003-01-05 Thread dbalder
However when I try to start any sound application, I get a "/dev/dsp: No
such device" error message.  The above modules do not appear to be using
any ioports or interrupts according to /proc.  dmesg says that isapnp,
ad1848 and opl3sa2 did not find any plug and play devices.  It seems to me
that I am not actually successfully loading the modules even though they
appear when I lsmod.

I am new to 2.4 kernels, but I was under the impression that the isapnp module would 
take care of the ioports and interrupts.

Any suggestions?

Yours,

Streph
***

Hi Streph,

/dev/dsp message you mentioned usually means you don't have the right module for your 
chipset installed.

Perhaps you can (if you haven't already) use sndconfig  (apt-get install sndconfig). 
That will tell you driver you need (at least it worked for me).


Davor



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GLCore doesn't exist -- where find?

2003-01-05 Thread Hank Marquardt
I'm trying to install a new vid card (ATI Radeon 8500DV AIW) ... the old
card was an nvidia chipset ... xfree is choking, saying the GLCore
doesn't exist

I moved the old XF86Config4 file out of the way and did a clean
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ... all the libs are installed x, GL1.2
GL2, mesa ... and it's a completely new kernel build 2.4.20 with no
nvidia stuff around at all ... where does GLCore come from and how do I
replace it?

The old nvidia card still works (albiet non accellerated), but I can't
get X to start with the ATI in the box.

Thoughts and pointers appreciated.

Hank
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Re: bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread David Z Maze
"Egor Tur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi.
> Who can explain?
> ps ax | grep lpd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting  
>  5593 pts/13   S  0:00 grep lpd
> ps ax | grep [l]pd
>   398 ?S  0:00 lpd Waiting
>
> What do [l]?

As far as grep is concerned, [l] is a regular expression that matches
any single character that is a lowercase l.  lp[rd] would match either
lpr or lpd.  The important effect here is that lpd and [l]pd both
match 'lpd', but neither matches '[l]pd', so the grep process itself
isn't included in the ps listing.

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Re: sound when playing audio files, but not when playing cd

2003-01-05 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 21:18:45 +0100 Wim De Smet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a small problem, whenever I try to play a cd (I use gtcd) the cd
> starts playing but there is no sound coming out. I don't know why, when
> starting gtcd from a terminal and playing the cd I see no error
> messages. I checked my mixer settings and cd sound is at same level as
> other sounds and not muted. I have an SBlive with the emu10k1 drivers
> loaded.

Try setting the IGain mixer control up a notch (just very slightly above 0).
That fixed it for me with the emu10k1 drivers...

I've never got the CD to play a sound with the Alsa drivers though :-(.

Stephen


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Re: sound when playing audio files, but not when playing cd

2003-01-05 Thread Waldemar Gorus
Hello,

if you want to play sound of a CD this way, you need to use a special
connect-cable (Dont know the real name of this cable) between your cdrom
and your soundcard. Open your PC and check if you have such a cable in
use. 

ciao
Walde


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Re: Re: howto for compiling of deb packages

2003-01-05 Thread Jeff Forsyth

Quick MethodWill not work for all...

apt-get install debhelper debmake fakeroot dh-make devscripts
 
1)   Unpack the source
2)   Ensure the directory name has a version number
3)   Enter the directory
4)   Type "deb-make"
5)   Type "debuild"
6)   If the above fails, read the docs on deb-make, debuild, debhelper...


-Original Message-
From: Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Roland Wegmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 18:49:33 -0600
Subject: Re: howto for compiling of deb packages


On Wed, Dec 25, 2002 at 10:52:32AM +0100, Roland Wegmann wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I have to know how you can build deb packages from source. Could somebody
> tell me if there exists an apt-get(able) doc package that introduces me
> in the topic of compiling your own deb packages from source?

Just use dpkg-buildpackage

apt-get source 
cd 
fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage

and you'll get debs in the parent directory
or 
it will barf that it needs some packages instealled first..

That's it (or at least should be unless the source it broken)

- Adam


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Re: Programs to fill in pdf forms

2003-01-05 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:21:29PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> Are there any tools that will let me fill in forms in pdf?
> 
> Ideally, the output would be pdf as well.
> 
> Thanks.

I've found one interesting solution: GIMP.  It will import pdf, which
you can then mark up.  Of course, the result is not PDF, and it's a
little tedious.


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Re: Help Configuring Sound

2003-01-05 Thread mess-mate
Edit '/etc/group' and add you as (your username) to the group 'audio'.
Like this: audio:x:27:
mess-mate

On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 14:08:54 -0500
Streph Treadway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| Hi all,
| 
| Sorry for the newbie question, but I have been having a bear of a 
| problem configuring sound under kernel 2.4.19 for my Yamaha opl3sa3.  
| My machine is a NEC Direction SPT 200.
| 
| Following advice from various lists I have compiled the following as 
| modules:
| isa-pnp
| sound
| oss
| adlib
| opl3sa2
| mpu401
| mss
| ym3812
| 
| if I modprobe opl3sa2, the following modules seem to load without 
| visible error:
| opl3sa2
| ad1848
| mpu401
| sound
| isa-pnp
| 
| However when I try to start any sound application, I get a "/dev/dsp: 
| No such device" error message.  The above modules do not appear to be 
| using any ioports or interrupts according to /proc.  dmesg says that 
| isapnp, ad1848 and opl3sa2 did not find any plug and play devices.  It 
| seems to me that I am not actually successfully loading the modules 
| even though they appear when I lsmod.
| 
| I am new to 2.4 kernels, but I was under the impression that the isapnp 
| module would take care of the ioports and interrupts.
| 
| Any suggestions?
| 
| Yours,
| 
| Streph
| 
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Re: bash, expressions, ???

2003-01-05 Thread Clive Standbridge
On Sun  5 Jan 2003 22:08:39 +(+0100), Michael Naumann wrote:
> 
> Nice trick. I usually used
> ps ax | grep lpd | grep -v grep
> but with that trick, I can shortcut things from now on.

A nifty alternative is
pgrep -l lpd
although its output is briefer than ps's.
pgrep is in the procps package.

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Re: GLCore doesn't exist -- where find?

2003-01-05 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 03:43:51PM -0600, Hank Marquardt wrote:
> I'm trying to install a new vid card (ATI Radeon 8500DV AIW) ... the old
> card was an nvidia chipset ... xfree is choking, saying the GLCore
> doesn't exist
> 
> I moved the old XF86Config4 file out of the way and did a clean
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ... all the libs are installed x, GL1.2
> GL2, mesa ... and it's a completely new kernel build 2.4.20 with no
> nvidia stuff around at all ... where does GLCore come from and how do I
> replace it?

AFAIK GLcore is an nvidia specific module.

Frank
> 
> The old nvidia card still works (albiet non accellerated), but I can't
> get X to start with the ATI in the box.
> 
> Thoughts and pointers appreciated.
> 
> Hank
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Re: sound when playing audio files, but not when playing cd

2003-01-05 Thread Stephen Kitt
On Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:48:26 +0100 Stephen Kitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've never got the CD to play a sound with the Alsa drivers though :-(.

Actually, I just figured this out, thanks to the excellent page at
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=emu10k1

In alsamixer, press space to enable the Capture control, adjust the volume of
the CD control and press space to capture it...

Stephen


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Re: Desperate for Mplayer apt sources

2003-01-05 Thread csj
On 05 Jan 2003 18:19:08 +0800,
Elijah wrote:
> 
> 
> > Actually, if you want to use mplayer, you _really_ should download the
> > source from the main site http://www.mplayerhq.hu and compile it. 
> > 
> > Sean
> 
> I've already done that and I'm having problems running it,
> gives me an error in my configs or something (?). that's why
> I've decided to use the debs instead.

Maybe you could try Marillat's Debianized source packages,
available at:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/

I forgot the "apt-get source" line. But you can manually download
the files:

mplayer_0.90rc2-0.1.diff.gz
mplayer_0.90rc2-0.1.dsc and
mplayer_0.90rc2.orig.tar.gz

Create the build directory using the command "dpkg-source -x
mplayer_0.90rc2-0.1.dsc". While the mplayer folks might have a
different opinion, in my experience Marillat's source is easier
to build because it tells you all the packages (and then some)
you need to install to build properly.


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Re: Re: howto for compiling of deb packages

2003-01-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 01:56:38PM -0800, Jeff Forsyth wrote:
> Quick MethodWill not work for all...
> 
> apt-get install debhelper debmake fakeroot dh-make devscripts
>  
> 1)   Unpack the source
> 2)   Ensure the directory name has a version number
> 3)   Enter the directory
> 4)   Type "deb-make"

Please don't use deb-make - it's been obsolete for years. The dh-make
package is more sensible. You still have to go over the output by hand,
of course, or we maintainers would be out of jobs. :)

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