LVM & fsck

[Oki DZ]

Hi, 

How do you fsck a logical volume?
By fsck'ing the underlying partition(s) as usual?

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Secure site browser access

[John Batistic]

Following a new woody-XFS install I am unable to access _some_ secure
sites, two in particular. The same situation exists for Mozilla,
Konqueror and Opera and it happens before I get to password entry, just
loading the site.

One site is a credit card site, the other is a bank.

However, an old install on another machine works just fine.

old-debian/Mozilla says "you have selected an encrypted page ..." then
proceeds to connect.

new-debian/Mozilla says "connecting to www.~" then times out without
completing the task.

Both sites give the same result.

The fact that all three browsers behave the same means, I think, that a
component is missing.

Mozilla-psm is installed and other secure sites work OK.

Thanks in advance

John Batistic

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Re: portfw timeout

[Thomas Halahan]

I tried connecting from the outside, but my browser just keeps on trying to 
load, then a timeout.

Anyone know how I can start forwarding in debug mode to get extra logging?


On Tuesday 29 October 2002 12:39 am, nate wrote:
> Thomas Halahan said:
> > Suggestions welcome and very appreciated...
>
> are you testing it from outside the firewall? my experience, many
> things with port forwarding fail to look like they "work" if your
> trying to connect from the system doing the forwarding or from
> a system that is doing NAT for a machine doing the forwarding.
>
> try connecting to the service from outside the firewall(perhaps another
> mahcine on the same subnet as the firewall) to see what happens.
> or ask someone you know to telnet to the port and see what response they
> get.
>
> nate


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Re: what is failing? fetchmail or exim?

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
> hello all

Hello again

> so far, i have set up exim properly. it is able to send messages. i also 
> used fetchmailconf and it created a .fetchmailrc file in ~. i have 
> checked and there is no .procmailrc or .forward file in ~.
> 
> .fetchmailrc:
> 
> # Configuration created Fri Oct 25 13:38:42 2002 by fetchmailconf
> set postmaster "sandip"
> set bouncemail
> set no spambounce
> set properties ""
> set daemon 5
> poll 192.168.100.1 with proto POP3
>   user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here

Looks good.

> etc.
> 
> now, here is output of fetchmail -c:
> 
> 5 messages for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (17323 octets).
> etc.
> 
> 
> now, at this time, /var/log/exim/mainlog does not contain any 
> information regarding fetchmail's attempts. i wonder how does fetchmail 
> -c not get logged in /var/log/exim/mainlog
> 
> now, finally, hoping that fetchmail will get the messages for me, i ran 
> fetchmail. here is what i get in /var/log/exim/mainlog:
> 
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip

exim is saying it couldn't verify who deshmukh@localhost is.  This means
that since you don't have a user account named 'deshmukh' (appears to be
sandip, am I right?) exim doesn't know who to deliver the mail to.

Do this:
mailq or exim -bp will tell you about all the frozen messages in exim's
queue - should be a good many by now.

If so, add an entry to /etc/aliases like 'deshmukh: sandip' and run 
`exim -qff`.  That'll force a delivery attempt for all frozen mail, and
it should now go to your sandip account.  Then fix your .fetchmailrc and
remove the no longer needed line from /etc/aliases.

> now, /var/mail/sandip is a 0byte file. there is no mbox file in ~.
> 
> is it that exim is playing the spoilsport? any remedies?

See above.

> thanx
> 
> - sandip

HTH,
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Re: installing a printer

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
> hello all!
> 
> this is a question that comes from a windows user shifting to linux.
> 
> i have debian 3.0 installed, up and running.
> 
> i recently have attached an hp710c printer to the lpt1 port. and i do
> not have any set-up cds, floppies, etc.

Be aware that lpt1 = lp0 in linux.  Real geeks begin couning at zero
(^8.  You shouldn't need any drivers for this printer.  I think lpr,
lprng, and CUPS all have good default ppd's for it.

> windows way of 'installing' the printer would be to add printer in
> printer folder and so on.
> 
> how do i do it in linux? is there a simple way of doing it?

Start at linuxprinting.org - they have fairly comprehensive overviews of
the various print systems available.  Overall, I recommend CUPS for
someone just beginning (That does not mean it is limited, though).  It
has a very easy web interface for configuration.

> and how do i 'install' networed printers? printers connected to our
> lan that runs on winnt?
> 
> can i choose default printer, etc like i used to do in windows?

If something is connected to a Win box, you'll want to look into the
various parts of samba - there's smbclient, IIRC a client for printing,
etc.

For the future, apt-cache search 'topic (printing|mail|etc)' will return
some useful results.  Google will help elaborate.

HTH,
Steve

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Please HELP: def gateway problem on eth0 and eth1

[José]

hello people,

I'm using debian potato 2.2r5 on compaq proliant server with kernel 2.4.19 compiled by 
hand.
all runs fine until i added a second ethernet controller to address 2 different 
networks.
both controllers are Intel 100 Mb ( eepro100 as a module)

the 2 controllers are found by the kernel.  eth0 already existent and the new as eth1.

my /etc/network/interfaces looks like :

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.202.193.135
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.202.193.0
broadcast 192.202.193.255
gateway 192.202.193.1

iface eth1 inet static
address 11.199.194.165
netmask 255.255.255.224
network 11.199.194.160 
broadcast 11.199.194.192 
gateway 11.199.194.161 

my route table looks like :

root@myhost: route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref  Use Iface
11.199.194.160  0.0.0.0   255.255.255.224   U  0  00   eth1
192.202.193.00.0.0.0   255.255.255.0   U  0  00   
eth0
0.0.0.0192.202.193.1   0.0.0.0   UG   0  0
0   eth0
0.0.0.011.199.194.161 0.0.0.0   UG   0  00 
  eth1

as we can see there a now 2 default gateways.

Now the problem:

When i run /etc/init.d/networking restart  the config is updated and interfaces 
reconfigured correctly but they stop responding ( i mean interface eth0 receives 
traffic but
nothing goes outside) i did somme tests with tcpdump. 
i think is cause of there are 2 def gateways  and the kernel don't know on which one 
he must respond !?

ifaces are setted 100 Mb/FDX and switch is in autonegociate mode.

What i need is the 2 infaces working and to address the 2 differents networks with the 
right gateway.

Any idea ?




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xmms doesn't work well with alsa

[Stephan Seitz]

Hi!

I have a Soundblaster Live and didn't have any problems with alsa
until rc3.

I'm using xmms with the xmms-alsa output plugin. Since rc3 xmms
segfaults sometimes with the message:

ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:292:(snd_pcm_hw_hw_params) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_PARAMS
failed: Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar
Unable to install hw params
Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x23e5d)!
Segmentation fault

"Nicht genügend Hauptspeicher verfügbar" means "not enough memory",
the main memory, but I have 768 MB physical memory and about 600 MB
swap. That shoud be enough.

Switching to the oss output plugin xmms doesn't crash but it skips
sometimes songs or skips part of them. xmms produces the messages:

** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SPEED ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
Hauptspeicher verfügbar
** WARNING **: SNDCTL_DSP_SETFMT ioctl failed: Nicht genügend
Hauptspeicher verfügbar

I can reproduce the errors with ogg123 using alsa09 or oss output
sometimes, but much less than using xmms. alsaplayer doesn't have any
problems (*knock on wood*).

Switching back to 0.9.0rc1+2 solves the problem for days, but then it
started again. Since then, there was a new alsa package, so I tried
0.9.0rc3-0.3 (updated all alsa and libasound packages). It doesn't
solve the problem. I don't see any reasons why this error occurs.
The systems neither had a high load nor was much memory used (values
from xosview).

Does somebody have the same problems? What could this be?

The system ist Debian/Testing.

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: Please Help

[ben]

On Monday 28 October 2002 12:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am new to this all and i am having trouble making a boot disk to do an
> initial install
> of debian on a laptop (Compaq armada m700 w/ floppy drive)
> please write or call me i need help
> 310-792-1934

wanna elaborate on the problem a bit? you're not giving us much to work with.

ben


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Re: Need help installing network driver

[Donald R. Spoon]

Andris Kalnozols wrote:
> -SNIP- <

My initial description was rather vague.  I have burned the first three
CDs and the Debian installer dutifully asks if I would like to read them
and index the available packages.  It does this and puts the appropriate
entries for the CDs into /etc/apt/sources.list.  The defect seems to be
with tasksel itself.  After going through the menu and choosing a minimal
server configuration, I get prompted to mount CD #1 and hit return.  Doing
so does nothing but loop at the same prompt.  There was an instance during
one of my many install cycles where tasksel recognized that CD #1 was
mounted, but I was not able to duplicate the situation.  Trying to load
Debian onto another identical server gave the same results.




Weird!  I have been doing a LOT of Woody installs recently on 
less-exotic machines, but with similar fundamental problems... the 
necessary drivers are NOT available on the "official" Debian CDs.  I 
have found that installing the "base" system and NOT doing the tasksel 
or dselect steps will give me a minimal working system that I can use to 
boot-strap up the other stuff.  You might see if that works for you to 
at least get something you can get a working network connection up & 
running.  From there you can run tasksel again and get all the 
additional stuff.  It really doesn't need to be part of the initial 
install...it is just there for convenience, IMHO.

I have done complete installs off the Internet with the help of a couple 
of boot-floppies, and more recently a patched "Potato" CD that has the 
drivers needed already installed as a starting point then "upgrading". 
That is where I found out that doing only the "base" install and then 
upgrading was WAY smoother than trying to do an upgrade on a "full" 
install!  The situation here is trying to get a Debian Woody system 
running for a Blind friend located about 1200 miles away, and the kernel 
needs a special patch to divert the Console video to a speech synth. 
This has been a most interesting experiment!

Cheers & Good Luck!
-Don Spoon-



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Re: what is failing? fetchmail or exim?

[Sandip P Deshmukh]

Stephen Gran wrote:


This one time, at band camp, Sandip P Deshmukh said:
 

2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient deshmukh@localhost 
from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
   

exim is saying it couldn't verify who deshmukh@localhost is.


thanx stephen.

why does exim look for deshmukh@loaclhost? why not sandip@localhost??

how do i make exim look for sandip@localhost and *not* deshmukh@localhost?

how do i tell exim that if it doesnt find someone@localhost, it should 
deliver the message to sandip@localhost?

This means
that since you don't have a user account named 'deshmukh' (appears to be
sandip, am I right?)


yes - you are right.


If so, add an entry to /etc/aliases like 'deshmukh: sandip'


am doing this as stop gap arrangement till my questions above are answered.


Then fix your .fetchmailrc


HOW? .fetchmailrc sits in /home/sandip directory and seems to be doing 
its job!

and
remove the no longer needed line from /etc/aliases.


sure i will!


HTH,
Steve

 


thanx again

- sandip


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RE: cyrus imap does not work after upgrade II

[Daniel Fabian]

> Subject: cyrus imap does not work after upgrade II

Today in the night there was an update and with the new sasl2 package
(2.1.9-4 I think) thing work just fine.

Thanks,
Daniel



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LED and lasers supply

[peter]

Would you please transmit this email to your pruchase department? I will highly 
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Re: Maximum partition size

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 12:01:28AM -0500, Levi Waldron wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > In future please use something like install-doc for these. I'll reassign 
> > this one.
> 
> Sorry about that, and thanks for the advice.  I just used "reportbug" and 
> didn't see an appropriate choice given.  I don't see install-doc under 
> www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages either.

install-doc is a real package, actually:

Description: Documentation for Debian installation and release notes
 Contains documentation for the Debian installation system for this
 architecture.  Files are provided in HTML, ASCII, and PDF format in
 /usr/share/doc/install-doc.  A number of different languages are
 provided.
 .
 The full set of this this information may be found in
   http://www.debian.org/releases/>

> In this case is there somewhere else I should look, or ask
> debian-user, or make up an appropriate sounding category?

Don't make up package names, if you would - they end up in my mailbox if
you do that. :) Filing bugs against general is preferable to that.

The boot-floppies package, mentioned in reportbug's output as "Bugs in
the installation subsystem", is good enough for this too - it goes to
the same people. Or indeed, check with -user if you're lost. I wouldn't
want to discourage you from filing bugs even if you can't find an
appropriate package name; if all else fails somebody will reassign
'general' bugs to the right place eventually.

Cheers,

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Re: what is failing? fetchmail or exim?

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 02:10:31PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote:
> why does exim look for deshmukh@loaclhost? why not sandip@localhost??
> 
> how do i make exim look for sandip@localhost and *not* deshmukh@localhost?

You've said:

  user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here

The "is 'deshmukh' here" means that the appropriate local user is
deshmukh. If you want fetchmail to deliver to the local user sandip
instead, then say so:

  user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'sandip' here

Cheers,

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paint

[zzm]

Dear debian-user:

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"YaQi"Brand High Grade Water Based Metal Paint&Coating Products
Brief  Introduction

Chongqing Zhanyang Chemical Co.,Ltd. is a high technology private enterprise mainly 
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"YaQi" brand products have been conferd "harm&poison-free(green)water based metal 
paint 
decoration material certificate" by China Association of Decoratior.& Building 
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also have got "no environmental pollution products certificate" by Chongqing. In 
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said 
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in 
DONGFANGHONG Industry Area, Jiangjin City, Chongqing. This marked the end of the 
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Tested by legal organizations of China, the quality indexes have come up to or surpass 
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KDE wont start on unstable after upgrade

[David Goodenough]

I recently upgraded a machine which had been installed as unstable but had
not been upgraded for a few weeks.  Everything has upgraded cleanly, and the
machine used to work quite satisfactorily.  Now when I boot the machine it
starts KDM quite happily, but then when I login using kdm it clears the screen
and then redisplays the kdm dialog.  Both the kdm dialog and background appear
to be normal and there are no errors in /var/log/XFree86.log.0.  This happens
whatever the user (there are 2 normal users + root on the machine).

Login on through one of the tty consoles works just fine for all the IDs, and
exactly the same behaviour happens if I logon at the console and then issue 
startx.

I can not find any error messages anywhere, anyone got any ideas?

David


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Re: no cd-sound but es1370 works

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Christian!
Christian Mascher schrieb am Sunday, den 27. October 2002:

> I think the problem is not the drive and not the cd (can listen to it
> under win98) but somewhere in the sound-system.
> 
> I like working in console, so it would be cool to get this working.
> Where could I look next?

You get a mixer, ie. aumix-gtk, and ajust the volume of the cdrom input.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: dual-booting with debian

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
* Charles Thomas Harris [Sun, Oct 27 2002, 01:28:24PM]:
> like to dual boot the machine with debian.  The linux boxes I
> maintain are devoted to linux, so I'm not too familiar with dual
> booting.  Where can I find the necessary documentation for this task?
> 
> I appreciate any help you can provide regarding this matter.

The Debian Woody Installer detects other operating systems and creates
the dual-boot menu that you are looking for. You may have another
problem - if there is no free unpartitioned space on the disk, you will
need a commercial utility to resize the windows partition.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: /etc/init.d services start/stop question

[Crispin Wellington]

On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 08:46, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> i just installed shorewall and it made 2 links in /etc/rc2.d
> K99shorewall and S99shorewall. I can see why the S99
> would have to be there. Is the reason of K99 to prevent
> net access for instance when one goes "telinit S"?
> 
> What scripts are called first, K or S?

AFAIK...

K's are called in order as the run level is *exited* as

/etc/rc2.d/K20whatever stop

S's are called in order as the run level is *entered* as

/etc/rc2.d/S20whatever start

Is that correct?

Kind regards
Crispin Wellington




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way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[ben]

[big f*kin' snip]

yeah, cheap paint on a cd. i knew that cup holder had to be more useful.

on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from 
this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation 
association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious content, 
why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a commonly 
appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from this list?

ben



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Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote:
> on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from 
> this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation 
> association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious content, 
> why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a commonly 
> appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from this list?

People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have
spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the
meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect).

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Using LP as LP

[DSC Siltec]

Hi --

   I have a line printer, set up as a line printer on COM Parallel port 
1.
   The printer is an HP DJ1120c, which can interpret plain text as 
plain text and print it out.  Is there a way to easily send the text to 
the printer?




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server layout on LAN [OT]

[Kevin Coyner]

Objective:  need to layout a small LAN using 2 servers and 6 workstns


Equipment available:

Server #1:  Sun Sparcstation 20 with 2G HD, 256M RAM running Debian

Server #2:  PIII with RAID 1 (2x9G) and one 20G IDE HD, 512 RAM running
Debian


Services I want the servers to be running and available to the 6 users:

DNS via Bind9
Squid Proxy Server
POP3/IMAP mail (will DL to this box using Fetchmail,Procmail,Exim)


So the question is ... on which of the two servers should I deploy these
programs? Everything on the PIII?  

Would you have a different recommendation if I wanted to run a website
using Apache/MySQL?  Would I need yet another box to do this right?

This is all for personal, non-commerical purposes. Like many of us on
this list, I'm simply addicted, want to keep learning, and can't stop
tinkering.

Thanks
Kevin

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Re: Using LP as LP

[Johan Ehnberg]

Yes.
Simply copy the plain text to your printer port entry in /dev.
The standard Parallel port (first) is /dev/lp0
Make sure you have the right modules installed (lp, if I remember it
correctly).
Some printers need an EOF sent to the printer to start printing.

Hope this helps!


DSC Siltec wrote:
 > Hi --
 >
 >I have a line printer, set up as a line printer on COM Parallel
port 1.
 >The printer is an HP DJ1120c, which can interpret plain text as plain
 > text and print it out.  Is there a way to easily send the text to the
 > printer?
 >
 >
 >
 >


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Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[ben]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:32 am, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote:
> > on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all from
> > this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate insulation
> > association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious
> > content, why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a
> > commonly appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam from
> > this list?
>
> People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have
> spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the
> meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect).

colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the spam 
that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw, and .kr 
domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to 
have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on the 
list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for the 
filter?

i'm not assuming that there's no filtering; rather wondering if the filterer 
is keeping up with current degree of infiltration. if i can help with that 
task, let me know how.

ben


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Re: Using LP as LP

[ben]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 03:29 am, DSC Siltec wrote:
> Hi --
>
> I have a line printer, set up as a line printer on COM Parallel port
> 1.
> The printer is an HP DJ1120c, which can interpret plain text as
> plain text and print it out.  Is there a way to easily send the text to
> the printer?

check out cups, at www.cups.org. i've yet to hear about a printer or printing 
task that cups can't enable.

ben


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Re: port 16001 and 111

[ben]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:31 am, Jean Christophe ANDRÉ wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> ben écrivait :
> > you're missing the point. running a portmap daemon is the only
> > vulnerability that the 111 port scans are attempting to exploit.
>
> We are not looking for vulnerability.
> We are looking for what is attempting to connect to port 111.
> We just want to know which internal process is trying to connect.
>
> > that attempted exploit is part of the weather of being hooked up,
> > in the same way that 25 is attempted to be used as a mail relay.
>
> I know this very well, since I have multiple servers around the World...
>
> > there are--to the best of my knowledge--no internal apps or daemons
> > that will cause the fashion of log alarm that the op is concerned to
> > address.
>
> Except if *his* concern is really to know which process is doing logs,
> not to be alarmed, but to have the knowledge of what's doing what.
>
> > you're assuming that internal apps attempt external connections.
>
> Nope. Please read first mail of this thread.
>
> > for that to be a possibility, you'd have to have a mighty weird local
> > setup. if you, or anybody, can give me a real example to justify your
> > hypothesis, please do.
>
> Please, just take a look at these:
>  
> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-security@;lists.debian.org/msg07363.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-security@;lists.debian.org/msg07529.html
>

however you derived the impression that i hadn't followed the thread from the 
start, i just don't see where anything i've written in response to the issue 
fails to adress its substance. as i said previously, if you have an example 
to justify your hypothesis, please let me know. i would, honestly, appreciate 
that information. i mean this, sincerely.

ben


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Re: /dev/dsp problem

[Seneca]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 08:10:42AM +0200, Martin Batermann wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 17:06:48 -0500
>  Seneca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > soundcore is the only one from that list that has to do
> > with sound. The
> > question is, which sound driver should you load? What is
> > your soundcard?
> > 
> The soundcard appears to be an ESS Maestro PCI Audio.  I
> should add here that my machine is a Dell Latitude C600
> laptop, dual booting Win2K and Debian and the soundcard
> info above is what is reported by the Windows Device
> Manager.

It looks like the driver you want is either maestro or maestro3. Try
one, and if it doesn't work, try the other.

> PS:  On matters of netiquette:  Does one reply to the list
> as well as the sender, or just to the list?  Should
> messages be snipped or kept complete?  Just wondering...

Just reply to the list, if you also reply to the sender, the sender
receives 2 copies of the message. You should also snip whatever is not
needed, otherwise some messages would get too long.

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Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[ben]

first off, i don't understand your point. second, please keep it on the list, 
simply because it's a list issue, that's best resolved by the most people 
having the opportunity to respond.

i'm top-posting so that others have the chance to review and perhaps make 
sense of what i concede i don't understand.

ben

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 03:44 am, Craig Genner wrote:
> Is the list not restricted to posting from only those that are subscribed
> then?  I don't see the advatages of having it this way.
> Prehaps you could let me in on your reasons for having it open posting.
>
> Thanks
> Craig
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
>
> > On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:32 am, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 01:00:23AM -0800, ben wrote:
> > > > on the other hand, isn't there more that can be done to spare us all
>
> from
>
> > > > this crap? if the f*ckin' big interrogators and the corporate
>
> insulation
>
> > > > association can develop a means of tracking potentially injurious
> > > > content, why can't we get it together, on this list, to agree on a
> > > > commonly appropriate filtering apparatus to eliminate obvious spam
>
> from
>
> > > > this list?
> > >
> > > People seem to keep assuming there's no filtering at all! We do have
> > > spamassassin running; it's just a matter of tweaking it (and, in the
> > > meantime, accepting that nothing's perfect).
> >
> > colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the
> > spam that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw,
> > and
>
> .kr
>
> > domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to
> > have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on
>
> the
>
> > list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for
>
> the
>
> > filter?
> >
> > i'm not assuming that there's no filtering; rather wondering if the
>
> filterer
>
> > is keeping up with current degree of infiltration. if i can help with
> > that task, let me know how.
> >
> > ben
> >
> >
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Re: P4 with 1GB RAM, swap required?

[Jason Pepas]

On Monday 28 October 2002 03:24 am, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> is there any sense in putting a swap partition on a P4 with 1GB RAM?
>
> What would be the advantage if using swapd?
>
> Or can I do without swap partitions at all?
>
> Thanks for any opinions,
>
> Lukas
> PS: I have debian unstable running...

Swaps are good eevn if you have gobs of RAM, because sometimes programs have 
memory leaks.  If you have a swap, this isn't a problem, because the leaked 
memory will eventually get pushed into swap, and it doesn't cause a 
performance penalty because it will never be brought back in from swap.

To create a swap file (64MB in this example), instead of a partition,

dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap bs=1M count=64
mkswap /swap

edit /etc/fstab:
/swap   noneswapsw  0   0

swapon -a
cat /proc/swaps

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Re: strange behaviour ripping an audio cd on a dvd drive

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:23:59AM -0800, Steve Juranich wrote:
> One thing to be aware of is that most new CD's come with extra garbage 
> on the disc specifically to confuse programs like grip.
> 
> Thankfully, cdparanoia is a much "dumber" program and isn't confused by 
> most of the extra garbage on the disk.  Try ripping a disk with 
> cdparanoia instead and see if that works.

grip uses cdparanaoia, either the linked in version, or an external
version.  Well, by default, anyhow.

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Re: kde2 and Xresources

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:49:44PM +0100, Olivier Esser wrote:
> kde2 (in debian woody) seems to overrides some of the resources I have put in 
> .Xresources.  The particular resources 
> 
> xterm*Font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15
> 
> is overriden by
> 
> xterm*Font:  -monotype-courier new-medium-r-normal--*-110-75-75-m-*-iso8859-15
> 
> Any ideas to solve the problem?

Have a look at the `Theme' section of the KDE Control Centre; by
default, KDE sets up X resources to match it's own theme (and maybe
font) settings...

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Re: Playing sound over the network

[Rob Weir]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:03:45PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:32:55PM +0100, Michael Schulze wrote:
> > > So, is there a way of getting /dev/dsp (or whatever) to be forwarded 
> > > over the network, so that I can play stuff locally with apps not 
> > > having to know that any jiggery-pokery is going on?
> > 
> > i once used esound (Enlightened Sound Daemon) to forward sound over the
> > network. i.e. xmms comes with a output plugin for esound.
> 
> Thanks Michael, but I'm really looking for something not tied into a 
> gui, not needing any userspace programs to even know it's there.  Maybe 
> a kernel patch, or summat.
> 
> Don't mind if the server box is running something hefty, but I'd like to 
> keep things tight and lean on the client box ...

You could use the esddsp program to 'trick' every client program into
forwarding sound to ESD, then forward it over the network...Network
Sound System is another possibility, but I've never played with it.

AFAIK, the Linux kernel has no support for this sort of remote sound
magic; you could conceivably hack up a sound driver that just forwarded
stuff to a socket (so some daemon could read it out and send it over the
network), but I imagine it would be a fair amount of work.

As another idea, you could run XMMS on the server machine, then forward
it's display to your box.  All the controls appear on your screen, but
sound and file access occurs on the serving box.

-rob



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Re: successful server installation, iptables question

[Rob Weir]

Firstly: iptables is the firewalling system built into the 2.4 kernel.
ipchains is the system from 2.2 (and an unsupported legacy option in
2.4).  iptables is better in nearly every way, so use it if you can.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:18:39PM +, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Monday 28 October 2002 12:01 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > i successfuly installed my new debian server instead of the suse 7.2 that
> > was on it. It was a lot easier to install and i knew what i was doing or at
> > least i thought i was :-)
> > I have installed the ipmasq package to share my internet connection.
> > All works ok. However, how does one customize the settings? For instance
> > if you want to allow an ssh connection in?
> 
> There are two packages one is ipmasq and the other is iptables.  

The iptables package provides the userland tool (iptables(8)) to
configure the kernel's firewalling system.  ipmasq is a set of shell
scripts that set up a basic firewalling using either iptables or
ipchains (depending on which is installed).

> They conflict with each other.  

No, they don't.  ipmasq _Depends_ on iptables to handle setting up the
firewall (if you have a 2.4 kernel with ipchains, at least).

> I think you need a linux 2.4 kernel to use iptables, ipmasq can be
> used on 2.2 (and 2.4?).

Too many damn things with the same name, true, but they do have
well-defined meanings. s/ipmasq/ipchains/ is mostly right here.

> They are very similar to each other 

See above.

> a) It brings more options with it to check things like open sessions or 
> requests to start a session 

ipchains did not support this, but iptables does, and so does ipmasq
when your machine is running a 2.4 kernel (with iptables enabled).

> b) The input and forward tables are completely separate (in ipmasq forwarded 
> stuff also traversed the input table making it very difficult to have one set 
> of rules for filtering into the gateway box and another for forwarding).
> 
> I have a custom iptables script to set up my firewall rules - I believe the 
> standard debian package does something itself, but I have not really looked 
> at that part.

The iptables package itself does not setup any sort of firewalling at
all, since this is local administrative decision that has no reasonable
default.  It does include `iptables-save' and `iptables-restore' scripts
that can save and restore locally defined setups.

> My suggestion would be to remove ipmasq and install iptables (I use dselect to 
> do this sort of thing) and then both man iptables and look at 

As I've said above, ipmasq _uses_ iptables.  If you have a 2.4 kernel,
and you want to use any sort of firewalling (custom bash script,
shorewall, ipmasq, hand entered commands) you _have to_ have the
iptables package installed.  There's no other way to talk to the kernel
about firewalling.

-rob



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Re: Installation problem.

[Rob Weir]

Please start a new thread for new questions, instead of tacking it on
the end of an existing thread.  Also, splitting things into paragraphs
makes it easier to read for us, and more likely that you'll get answers.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:03:38PM +0100, Erik Pols wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> This is what I want: install Debian on a Compaq Pentium I. I can connect a
> cd-rom drive to it, but I can't make it bootable (compaq: no bios-setup).
>
> The other possibility is to install debian using the internet
> (ftp.nl.debian.org) as a source for the packages. In order to do this I
> needed two disks, a rescue disk and a root disk.

You can boot from floppies, and then get your packages from CDs.  It'd be
a lot quicker than downloading everything...

> When I boot I get the error
> described in the installation guide,
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html section
> 5.6.1 The floppydrive doesn't recognise the root disk, and I am flowed with
> I/O errors. The rescuedisk is no problem. I created the disk by downloading
> them and rawrite them to disk. The site suggests redownloading and retrying,
> but I retried 6 times now, without result. I also tried another diskdrive.
> (same type). 

You have tried a new floppy disk, right?

> Is there a way to solve this? I just want to install Debian, so other
> possibilities are appreciated as wel.

If you can't replace the floppy drive, and can't boot from a CD, your
best bet is to move the hard drive to another machine and install the
base system there.  You will have to be careful when setting up LILO
since the device location may change, and you don't have floppy boot to
fall back on.  I'm not exactly sure how to configure this bit, but maybe
someone else can jump in, or else you'll have to puzzle it out:)

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Re: Why debian sucks.

[Carel Fellinger]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:57:45PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:31:54PM +0100, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> > Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work:(
> > The otherday I tried to unsubscribe from debian-ipv6 to find out that
> > I subscribed under a different name, so I tried to unsubscribe with
> > that other name filled in, I got a conformation messages, but simply
> > replying to it didn't work. I had to temporarely make exim rewrite
> > my headers to conform to the old address I used when subscribing.
> 
> Or you can simply just use mutt as your MUA, which allows you to play
> with the From header on your own.

Nah, not while I'm using exim to do (From-)header rewriting:) Maybe
that's the problem, I used the web page to unsubcribe (no exim there)
but my reply to the confirmation request went through exim and header
rewriting.  I'll try again.

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Re: P4 with 1GB RAM, swap required?

[Lukas Ruf]

* Jason Pepas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-29 13:03]:
> 
> To create a swap file (64MB in this example), instead of a partition,
> 
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap bs=1M count=64
> mkswap /swap
> 
> edit /etc/fstab:
> /swap noneswapsw  0   0
> 
> swapon -a
> cat /proc/swaps
> 
Thanks for this hint!  This is really great!

wbr,
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Re: server layout on LAN [OT]

[Kevin Coyner]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 12:42:56PM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote..

> On Tuesday 29 October 2002 12:18, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> >
> > So the question is ... on which of the two servers should I deploy
> > these programs? Everything on the PIII?
> 
> Do you want one of the two computers act as a gateway for internet 
> access? If so, it is recommended that you don't do very much on this 
> machine but firewall and IP masquerading. I don't know how powerful the 
> Sparcstation is, but I guess it'd be a little slower than the PIII 
> machine. So you make this the gateway running no services but the ones 
> absolutely necessary. All the other stuff, you put on the P3.

I have a standalone commerical SOHO router (SMC7008ABR) that should do
for the firewalling and IP masquerading (at least I hope so.  pls tell
me if these are insufficent relative to a good Linux box).  I was
actually wondering if I really need 2 routers to do it right - one to be
the first firewall and provide a route to a yellow zone that hosts a
website (low volume, not slashdotesque) and then a second router behind
the first that setups up a LAN for the 6 users in a green zone.  Is this
overkill and will one router suffice?

> > Would you have a different recommendation if I wanted to run a
> > website using Apache/MySQL?  Would I need yet another box to do this
> > right?
> 
> That depends on whether that site should be seen from the outside 'net 
> (well, probably ;-) ) and what you intend to do with it. Again, it 
> would be best not to expose more than necessary to the outside world. 
> So you put Apache on the P3 like the rest of it and directly forward 
> the ports for http (and probably https) to that machine; same thing 
> goes for the DB server except you certainly don't want anyone to access 
> it from outside. As long as the database and the number of hits stays 
> low, the P3 can easily handle it alone.

Yes, the website would be viewable from the world, but would be low
volume.  

> Of course, if you plan to run something slashdotesque, a little more 
> oomph in form of separate server machines wouzd be needed... And a good 
> inet connection, last thing I heard slashdot had an average bandwidth 
> use of 38Mbit/s. But those dimensions are a loong way down the 
> road. Doing it "right" is not cheap and most of the time just overkill, 
> but interesting.
 
Thanks for the advice !

Kevin

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Re: server layout on LAN [OT]

[Nicos Gollan]

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On Tuesday 29 October 2002 12:18, Kevin Coyner wrote:
> Objective:  need to layout a small LAN using 2 servers and 6 workstns
>
>
> Equipment available:
>
> Server #1:  Sun Sparcstation 20 with 2G HD, 256M RAM running Debian
>
> Server #2:  PIII with RAID 1 (2x9G) and one 20G IDE HD, 512 RAM
> running Debian
>
>
> Services I want the servers to be running and available to the 6
> users:
>
> DNS via Bind9
> Squid Proxy Server
> POP3/IMAP mail (will DL to this box using Fetchmail,Procmail,Exim)
>
>
> So the question is ... on which of the two servers should I deploy
> these programs? Everything on the PIII?

Do you want one of the two computers act as a gateway for internet 
access? If so, it is recommended that you don't do very much on this 
machine but firewall and IP masquerading. I don't know how powerful the 
Sparcstation is, but I guess it'd be a little slower than the PIII 
machine. So you make this the gateway running no services but the ones 
absolutely necessary. All the other stuff, you put on the P3.

> Would you have a different recommendation if I wanted to run a
> website using Apache/MySQL?  Would I need yet another box to do this
> right?

That depends on whether that site should be seen from the outside 'net 
(well, probably ;-) ) and what you intend to do with it. Again, it 
would be best not to expose more than necessary to the outside world. 
So you put Apache on the P3 like the rest of it and directly forward 
the ports for http (and probably https) to that machine; same thing 
goes for the DB server except you certainly don't want anyone to access 
it from outside. As long as the database and the number of hits stays 
low, the P3 can easily handle it alone.

Of course, if you plan to run something slashdotesque, a little more 
oomph in form of separate server machines wouzd be needed... And a good 
inet connection, last thing I heard slashdot had an average bandwidth 
use of 38Mbit/s. But those dimensions are a loong way down the 
road. Doing it "right" is not cheap and most of the time just overkill, 
but interesting.

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Printing with the Gimp 1.2.3

[Vittorio]

It all works but I don't understand..

Under debian woody I have the gimp 1.2 and gimp-print. I've set my
Epson 640 printer as my default printer by means of magicfilter
according to the following scheme:

1) lp is 360 dpi
2) lp720 is 720x720 dpi
3) lp1440 is 1440x720 dpi

Now, using the print command under the gimp I have (tentatively)
selected in 'setup printer' the epson 640 as my printer, and lp as my
printer name.

It works! But I find it all a bit confusing

I mean I've chosen lp (which is 360 dpi to me) and I've selected other
resolutions than the 1). Then why should I tell the Gimp what my
printer is? Isn't already selected by magicfilter? Shouldn't be enough
to select printer name only (either lp, or lp720 or lp1440)?

Is there anyone out there able to explain the basic of printing with
the gimp?

Ciao
Vittorio


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nfs lock problems (I/O error)

[Robert Kellner]

Hello,

I have some problems with file-locking over nfs.

Not only is mail giving me input/output error when trying to lock
a mailbox, I also have problems using dbm-files with perl (same
thing, input/output errors)

Does anybody know something about the locking-problem?

Greetings,

Robert


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Re: Recording on SB Live

[sdownes]

I'm using emu10k1 with the sound card with sound, soundcore, & ac97_codec. 

Reading between the lines on your email would suggest this is not enough. 
The sound-HOWTOs seem to suggest that this should work but don't offer 
much help.

I have had a brief look at alsa & again it seems a bit vague on the 
recording side. The deb packages lists loads of alsa related packages. 
which ones do I need if emu10k1 isn't going to work?

Steve

 Original Message 

On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, sdownes wrote:

> I've got a deb 2.4 system (testing) working fine & my soundblaster live
> card is working fine as far as playing is concerned. It will take inputs
> from wav files & line inputs & play them no problem. I am also using 
aumix
> without problems.
>
> I cannot persuade it to record from any source to file.
>
> Any pointers please?
>
> Steve
How are you trying to do it? What are you using (alsa, oss, etc)?


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Re: nfs lock problems (I/O error)

[Vincent Lefevre]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 13:32:48 +0100, Robert Kellner wrote:
> I have some problems with file-locking over nfs.
> 
> Not only is mail giving me input/output error when trying to lock
> a mailbox, I also have problems using dbm-files with perl (same
> thing, input/output errors)
> 
> Does anybody know something about the locking-problem?

I had locking problems related to NFS a few months ago at my lab
(preventing from locking NFS mailboxes). After several mails, the
sysadmin cleaned-up the lock manager and the problem was solved.
I don't know if this is the same problem...

The attached program may help you to find the problem.

$ touch blah
$ tfcntl blah 1

Depending on the machine, I got one of the following errors:

tfcntl: lock failed (errno = 22)
tfnctl: Invalid argument

tfcntl: lock failed (errno = 13)
tfnctl: Permission denied

tfcntl: lock failed (errno = 77)
tfnctl: No locks available

On some machines (not Linux), I had to use kill -9 to kill the tfcntl
program (sometimes leaving a zombie).

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validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International
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Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / SPACES project at LORIA

#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{
  FILE *f;
  int fd;
  struct flock lck;

  if (argc != 3)
  {
fprintf (stderr, "Usage: tfcntl  \n");
exit (1);
  }

  f = fopen (argv[1], "r+b");
  if (f == NULL)
  {
fprintf (stderr, "tfcntl: can't open file %s\n", argv[1]);
perror ("tfnctl");
exit (2);
  }
  fd = fileno (f);

  memset (&lck, 0, sizeof (struct flock));
  lck.l_type = F_WRLCK;
  lck.l_whence = SEEK_SET;
  if (fcntl (fd, F_SETLK, &lck) == -1)
  {
fprintf (stderr, "tfcntl: lock failed (errno = %d)\n", errno);
perror ("tfnctl");
exit (3);
  }

  sleep(atoi(argv[2]));

  memset (&lck, 0, sizeof (struct flock));
  lck.l_type = F_UNLCK;
  lck.l_whence = SEEK_SET;
  fcntl (fd, F_SETLK, &lck);

  return 0;
}

KDE still won't load completly

[Daniel Fabian]

Hi List,

Sorry if I'm a pain in the neck, but on my laptop, KDE still won't load
completly. I have removed the .kde directory and tried to login both as root
and as not priviledged user, but it just won't work. Whenever it's at the
keyboard symbol of the splash screen, it returns back to the loginmanager. I
also tried another loginmanager (kdm instead of xkd, that's better for the
eye :), no success.

In order to keep this mail as small as possible, I put the XFree86 logfile
on my webserver (http://fabiand.net/XFree86.0.log). In the last line, it
says that it "Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M". I tried to
install xfonts-pex but for some strange reasons, apt-get says package not
found (oh, now that I think about it: perhaps its on cd 3-7?). Do you thing
installing this package would help?

thanks in advance,
Daniel



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Printer frustrations

[DSC Siltec]

Hmmm ... I started looking more into printers, in the hope that I could 
get a real print system going with my DJ1120c.

First, I saw how the HOWTO advised pdq.  Installed that -- didn't see 
support for the DJ1120c, and started to look more.  Then I noticed that 
some parts said that this was hugely calculation intensive, and xpdq 
really wasn't advised, especially for big jobs.  Might be nice to do big 
jobs, since I often actually do so from my MAC.

So I looked more, saw CUPS was advised.  So I unloaded xpdq, and 
installed CUPS.  Noticed that CUPS has its own KDE files, as well -- 
nice.  At the same time, I installed hpijs (useful).

So at this point, technically I should be able to print using Ghostview 
-- but that is such a long command line to have to type each time.

So I then logged out of KDE and back in, to bring CUPS together -- no 
dice.  Tried gv with lp set (as I understand, lp *is* CUPS).  No dice. 
Checked into the KDE control panels, tried to install something -- no 
dice.

I honestly have no idea what I am doing here.  I've been over to 
linuxprinting.org, and I've read the CUPS documentation, though it's not 
extremely clear to me.

Anyone have suggestions on how I can bring a nice print spooler + hpijs 
frontend up to speed?



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Re: exim reject most of a domain

[Michael West]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:11:35PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:21:00AM -0800, Michael West wrote:
> >  sender_reject ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aol.com
> 
> You want an MDA like procmail to do this after it reaches the MTA but
> before the MUA.

 I do not want to filter, I want to reject from the MTA.

 I don't want my address to show as valid to the senders I wish to block.
 
 If procmail can do this, I would be interested in how.

  ~Michael


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Re: server layout on LAN [OT]

[Robert Ian Smit]

* Kevin Coyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [29-10-2002 13:15]:
> I have a standalone commerical SOHO router (SMC7008ABR) that should do
> for the firewalling and IP masquerading (at least I hope so.  pls tell
> me if these are insufficent relative to a good Linux box).  I was
> actually wondering if I really need 2 routers to do it right - one to be
> the first firewall and provide a route to a yellow zone that hosts a
> website (low volume, not slashdotesque) and then a second router behind
> the first that setups up a LAN for the 6 users in a green zone.  Is this
> overkill and will one router suffice?

If you use a router with three NICs you could create three zones. I
use a Sparcstation as gateway/firewall. I want to have some services
available to the outside world, but am prohibited by the lack of
expansion options on the Sun. 

Getting network equipment for Sun is expensive. So unless you
already have three NICs on the Sun I can't recommend using that
machine as a firewall.  Personally I am still hoping to find one of
those Sbus cards with three (or more?) network interfaces for a good
price. Maybe the ss20 has more Sbus slots, but getting an Sbus NIC
on Ebay is at least ten times more expensive than getting a couple
of PCI NICs.

If you want to tinker, the Sun is great. If you power on the machine
and make a serial connection to another internet connected machine,
you can literally install an os from the other side of the world on
the Sun. That is nice.

I can't comment on the security aspects of the various options you
have. I think (hope) that I am safe running a Linux firewall, but I
don't have much to protect. If I had to shield sensitive
information, I'd need to start reading. When I need something
available to the outside world, I temporarily open my firewall to a
local service.

Safest and best practice and tinkering don't always go happily hand
in hand ;)

Bob


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Re: fetchmail configuration

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

Sandip> where will this message go?? i thought fetchmail will get
Sandip> it in /var/mail/sandip!!

Fetchmail will give it to exim, which will deliver it to
/var/mail/sandip as long as fetchmail delivered the mail to 'sandip'
and no forwarding or rewriting rules were invoked (like .forward or
.procmailrc files etc.).

>> Also, be sure you have something like
>> 
>> user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there ... is sandip
>> here
>> 
>> in your fetchmailrc config file.
>> 
Sandip> it does have such entries. i forgot to mention, but i had
Sandip> used fetchmailconf utility to create .fetchmailrc file


If possible, post your .fetchmailrc file *after* you replace your
hostname and passwords in it with some generic names (like pop.server
and password, you get the idea).

Sandip> well, it sure is letting me learn a lot and helping me
Sandip> keep young! i still cant fathom, though, how is exim +
Sandip> pop3browser + fetchmail + procmail + mua a better solution
Sandip> than mua + 'rules' + smtp server setup! 

It is not always "better". If anyone suggests that using exim + tools
is "superior", for a single user, than using, say, Microsoft Outlook +
Outlook rule processing they are not being completely honest. The
advantages show up when you start programming and administering a
large server with multiple users. It is easy to write scripts that
produce, consume, rewrite and otherwise process email to get a lot of
work done (like page you if your CPU core gets too hot etc.) on a Unix
style mail set up then the standard PC. It is because you have a MTA,
MDA and an MUA all nicely available. On a Wintel PC you usually have
only the MUA. If you don't need the flexibility of exim, you can
always choose to use Mozilla (or your favorite MUA) + SMTP.

Cheers!
Shyamal


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java 1.3 and glibc 2.3.1

[Richard Gellert Roman]

hi,

I am not sure, if it's right to post sid-related mails here, sorry for
the inconvenience.

I recently updated my testing/unstable Debian, and had to recognize,
that java 1.3.1 from Sun did not run any more:

gellert@ritch:~$ javac
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native library: /usr/local/java/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so:
symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
link time reference

Woah. Downgrading to older glibc would have been to difficult because of
the dependencies, and yes, I do need version 1.3 of Java to use PSE Pro.

My solution for the problem: I downloaded and decompressed the old libc6
package, into the /usr/local/libc6forjava directory. What I had to do,
is to tell java to use this instead of the new glibc. I modified (I know
it's ugly...) /usr/local/java/bin/.java_wrapper:

ritch:/usr/local/java/bin# diff .java_wrapper .java_wrapper.old 
84c84
<
JAVA_LIBRARY_PATH="/usr/local/libc6forjava/:${jre}/lib/${proc}/${vmtype}$JAVA_LIBRARY_PATH"
---
> JAVA_LIBRARY_PATH="${jre}/lib/${proc}/${vmtype}$JAVA_LIBRARY_PATH"
111,112c111
<  exec /usr/local/libc6forjava/ld-linux.so.2  $DEBUG_PROG "$prog" "$@" 
<  #exec $DEBUG_PROG "$prog" "$@" 
---
>  exec $DEBUG_PROG "$prog" "$@" 

Hope I could help someone out there.

ritch

PS: I am not on Debian-user's list, please Cc comments to my address
too.


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Re: mail in linux

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:

>> While doing some admin box on a debian machine at work I found
>> a pop3browser package and the description matches what you
>> want.
>> 
Sandip> yes. thanx for pointing me to it. so, now my setup will be
Sandip> exim + pop3browser + fetchmail + procmail? on windows it
Sandip> used to be *only* outlook!!

To be fair, on Linux it *can* be *only* Mozilla. Or *only*
XEmacs/GNUS, or *only* evolution, etc. 

By using exim you have chosen a more complicated solution than the
minimum required to read email from a POP server. Presumably you have
a reason for doing this, and the additional complexity will pay off
(if only to educate you on a full mail system works through transfer,
delivery and user agents). You could always leave exim configured for
a "sattelite" system and make sure no mail is delivered locally, or
just ignore it and choose the "mail is delivered locally only" option.

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: what is failing? fetchmail or exim?

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Sandip" == Sandip P Deshmukh  writes:


Sandip> user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here


No, no, no! :-)

It should be "user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'sandip
here" at least based on your earlier posts on this question. Your user
id on the Debian box ("here") is sandip, not deshmukh. Right?

Cheers!
Shyamal


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Re: PHP module for Apache - FIXED FIXED FIXED!!

[Wayne Topa]

Chip Rose([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Sunday 27 October 2002 06:54 pm, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Chip Rose([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > > I'm in the same boat - the default configuration used when installing
> > > debs, doesn't work.
> >
> > Strong statement.  You must be new to Debian.  Debs work, some of them
> > just require a bit of user intelligence.

<<- snip old message ->>
> 
> Wayne,
> 
> Thanks so much for the help, and the rebuke for my poor attitude.  I've 
> finally gotten Apache/MySQL/PHP combination working, thanks to you.  This has 
> taken hours per night, for months and months - I messed with it through 
> Mandrake 6.0, Mandrake 8.0, and now Debian 3.0, and it still wouldn't work 
> (so I blamed Debian).  I apologize for sometimes taking a newbie viewpoint of 
> expecting it to work like *magic*, but I really have hacked away at it, and 
> read innumerable pages, and instructions on how to do it.  I do have user 
> intelligence, although I'm sure it wasn't apparent from my rant - if only you 
> knew the amount of time I spent labouring on this, and how little I 
> accomplished.  It was a combination of extreme effort and overwhelming 
> desire/need to get this one simple thing working correctly, coupled with an 
> persistent and utter lack of results, that had me frustrated beyond words.  
> Numerous posts on several lists yielded no clues, and my final (final?) post 
> was one from a semi-crazed frame of mind.

I understand your pain.  Next time put yourself in the shoes of the
developer who spends much more time that us, getting the package made
up in the first place. Think of 'their' frustration when posts like
that pop up.
> 
> I removed phpmyadmin, and things started working.  I'd hosed it up beyond 
> recognition.  You're absolutely right when you surmised that I had indeed 
> copied phpmyadmin install files directly into my /var/www/ directory, which 
> was A BAD THING to do, which was causing my library errors.  You're also 
> absolutely right in deducing that I had indeed installed phpmyadmin and had 
> left that out of my rant - I didn't think it was a factor, and *neglected* to 
> mention it (newbie alert!).
> 
> I have no idea how you came so easily to your conclusions, other than you are 
> psychic, or have been looking over my shoulder while seated at my terminal.   
> It is amazing.  

<<- Enable teach how to fish mode ->>

Not really.  You had all the clues I needed in your original post..
> > Fatal error: Failed opening required './libraries/grab_globals.lib.php'
> > (include_path='.:/usr/share/pear') in /var/www/index.php on line 8

I did a locate on 'grab_globals.lib.php' and saw it was in the
/usr/share/phpmyadmin dir.  Oh, he's running phpmyadmin.

I then did a locate for phpmyadmin files and saw there was an
index.php file listed so I looked at it.  Line 8 was just what your
error message was: require('./libraries/grab_globals.lib.php')
"Ah, he used the index.php file from /usr/share/phpmyadmin/"

I had installed phpmyadmin way before it was a debian package and had 
seen that error before.  The solution, back then, was different but
made your problem understandable. 

NOTE: It took me a few hours to get the OLD phgpmyadmin program
working as I recall, and everytime I upgraded it I had to mess with
something or other.  I was very pleased with the Debian package as it
installed without any hassle at all.

<<- Disable teach how to fish mode ->>

> I still maintain that I would never have gotten it working 
> had it not been for your help, and sharp rebuke in response to my whiney 
> post.  

Sure you would.  After the install of the package, and reading all of
the included docs, run it like I said in the last post and it's there.

> Nothin on the web even vaguely offered any insight as to the pickle 
> I'd gotten myself into, and it would've been forever before I'd even begin to 
> "get a clue."
Ah, coming from Mandrake/RedHat means a completly different mind set.
One of the joys of Debian is that the packages really do work,
especially when that are in the stable branch.  When they don't work
'out of the box', there is usually a tip 'somewhere' in the docs.

> 
> I've now installed DaDaBIK, , which is just what the 
> doctor ordered, to allow me to input and query MySQL via web interface.  The 
> program is extremely easy, the default settings are even great, and it is 
> what I've been looking for, for a LONG LONG LONG time.

I don't know that pgm.  I installed the phpmyadmin and mysql-navigator
packages and find both of them very useful.  I prefer the console to
X so I am writing my custom DB apps in python.

> Again, sorry to the List for my rant, and for this ridiculously long post - 
> my only excuse is that my tortured mind finally snapped from the extreme, 
> mind-bending frustration - if it pleases the list, I'll enter a plea of not 
> guilty, by reason of temporary insanity.

No sweat Chip.  Things

Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[David Teague]

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, ben wrote:

> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 02:59:26 -0800
> From: ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Craig Genner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint
> Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 05:55:39 -0600 (CST)
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> first off, i don't understand your point. second, please keep it on the list, 
> simply because it's a list issue, that's best resolved by the most people 
> having the opportunity to respond.
> 
> i'm top-posting so that others have the chance to review and perhaps make 
> sense of what i concede i don't understand.
> 
> ben

 

I am subscribed to several lists. It is certainly true that spam has
increased in all lists over the last year, nevertheless I get the LEAST
spam from debian-user. If it can be decreased, and if I can help, please
let me know.

Thanks to the guys who do the hard work that I cannot.


David Teague 
who depends on this list for support of Debian Distribution.


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Re: KDE still won't load completly

[Kent West]

Daniel Fabian wrote:


Hi List,

Sorry if I'm a pain in the neck, but on my laptop, KDE still won't load
completly. I have removed the .kde directory and tried to login both as root
and as not priviledged user, but it just won't work. Whenever it's at the
keyboard symbol of the splash screen, it returns back to the loginmanager. I
also tried another loginmanager (kdm instead of xkd, that's better for the
eye :), no success.

In order to keep this mail as small as possible, I put the XFree86 logfile
on my webserver (http://fabiand.net/XFree86.0.log). In the last line, it
says that it "Couldn't open default PEX font file  Roman_M". I tried to
install xfonts-pex but for some strange reasons, apt-get says package not
found (oh, now that I think about it: perhaps its on cd 3-7?). Do you thing
installing this package would help?

thanks in advance,
Daniel



 


It may be a problem with X instead of with KDE. If there are any other 
wm's listed in the KDM menus, such as ICEWM or WindowMaker, try one of 
those. Also, take KDM out of the picture. Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to the 
first virtual terminal, create the files .xinitrc and .xsession, with 
the single line
   icewm
and make sure icewm is installed (apt-get install icewm), then run 
"startx -- :1" which will start a second instance of X on the second X 
display (VT7).

Let us know the results.

Sometimes a font problem will prevent X from starting up; sometimes not. 
If there aren't any other errors, then yeah, installing that package 
might help.

Kent



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alsa-source compile errors

[ThomasRatliffDDS]

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks

sarge
Opt soundalsa-source  0.9.0rc3-0. 0.9.0rc3-0. ALSA driver source
kernel-source-2.4.19

Following with make-kpkg modules_image (also true when running
debian/rules)

../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:154: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:154: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:154: warning: assignment makes pointer from
integer
without a cast
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:159: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:159: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:159: warning: assignment makes pointer from
integer
without a cast
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:170: warning: implicit declaration of function
`isapnp_resource_change_R09b965af'
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c: In function `alsa_card_als100_init':
../alsa-kernel/isa/als100.c:371: warning: implicit declaration of function
`isapnp_probe_cards_R7a71de0d'
make[4]: *** [als100.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/isa'
make[3]: *** [compile] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver'
make[2]: *** [install-modules] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver'
make[1]: *** [kdist_image] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver'
Module /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver failed.



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Re: wget logging

[Andre Berger]

* Claudio Bley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-10-22 08:50 -0400:
> On Tue, 2002-10-22 at 01:20, Andre Berger wrote:
> > * Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-10-21 09:51 -0400:
> > > Andre Berger wrote:
> > > >* Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 2002-10-21 09:31 -0400:
> > > >>On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 09:07:50AM -0400, Andre Berger wrote:
> > > >>>Is it possible to see wget's messages on the console, and at the same
> > > >>>time log them with "-a"? I haven't been able to figure that one out. 
> > [...]
> > > $ wget -c $MYURL -a | tail logfile
> > 
> > That works. Can I make this a bash alias somehow? Like
> > 
> > alias wget='wget -c $ -a $HOME/.wget.log | tail $HOME/.wget.log'
> > 
> > where I would have to figure out $
> 
> You can't use aliases like that because there's no variable expansion
> done on them. But you can use functions. For example:
> 
> wget() {
>   command wget -c "$@" -a "${HOME}/.wget.log" | tail "${HOME}/.wget.log"
> }

That works great, thanks!

-Andre



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Re: way indulgent on my part--was Re: paint

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 02:29, ben wrote:
>
> colin, thanks for the response, but given that a huge majority of the spam
> that makes its way through the list filters emanates from .cn, .tw, and .kr
> domains, where there are obviously huge relay holes, what does it take to
> have the list's spam guardians address the issue? the spam pollution on the
> list has increased hugely over the last six months. who's responsible for
> the filter?
>
> i'm not assuming that there's no filtering; rather wondering if the
> filterer is keeping up with current degree of infiltration. if i can help
> with that task, let me know how.
>
> ben

the lists were only fairly recently switched to spamassassin.  We are 
currently using a slightly out of date version because the server we are 
running it on does not have all of the depends for the latest version.  That 
is being looked into presently.

Secondly, look at the header of each mail and there is a spamassassin added to 
each one.  So you can further filter the mail.


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Re: KDE still won't load completly

[Dale Hair]

On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 07:04, Daniel Fabian wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> Sorry if I'm a pain in the neck, but on my laptop, KDE still won't load
> completly. I have removed the .kde directory and tried to login both as root
> and as not priviledged user, but it just won't work. Whenever it's at the
> keyboard symbol of the splash screen, it returns back to the loginmanager. I
> also tried another loginmanager (kdm instead of xkd, that's better for the
> eye :), no success.

I had the same problem when I upgraded to kde3, only I use gdm.  During
the install a symlink to /etc/kde3/debian/kde-gdm-session was placed in
/etc/gdm/Sessions.  I removed the symlink and copied the file over and
it worked.


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Re: dual boot debian on a 6100/60 mac

[Amal Phadke]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:20:21PM -0800, ben wrote:
> yo list, 
> 
> i've got 48 hours to mess with someone else's 6100/60 mac box and need to 
> know if debian can be dual-booted on that arch, running mac os8.1. i've only 
> used dual-boots on pc's up to now. 4 hours of googling isn't getting me the 
> answers i need. i don't have the system disks for the mac os, so i need to do 
> it right, or not, at all. all hints and clues greatly appreciated.
> 
> ben

The short answer is NO. As far as I know, only micro-kernel Linux
(http://www.mklinux.org) works on 6/7/8100 series of Power Macs which
have NuBus instead of a PCI bus. PPC Linux requires PCI bus. I used
MkLinux about 5 years ago on a 8100 class PowerMac, but now I believe
MkLinux is practically dead.

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Re: exim reject most of a domain

[Steve Haslam]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 11:21:00AM -0800, Michael West wrote:
>  How would I configure exim to reject most of a domain?
> 
>  I have read the exim spec on host_reject, sender_reject,
>  host_reject_recipients etc, but am not sure.
> 
>  If I want to reject all mail from aol except for mail from one
>  account I think it might be:
> 
>  sender_reject ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aol.com

sender_reject = [EMAIL PROTECTED] : aol.com
 perhaps.

Try try sth like

exim -bh 64.12.136.89

and type these commands:

 MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 RSET
 MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 RSET
 QUIT

and look at the output. Do you get 5xx rejections from [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

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Re: dual-booting with debian

[Rhodri]

 --- Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #include

> * Charles Thomas Harris [Sun, Oct 27 2002,
> 01:28:24PM]:
> > like to dual boot the machine with debian.  The
> linux boxes I
> > maintain are devoted to linux, so I'm not too
> familiar with dual
> > booting.  Where can I find the necessary
> documentation for this task?
> > 
> > I appreciate any help you can provide regarding
> this matter.
> 
> The Debian Woody Installer detects other operating
> systems and creates
> the dual-boot menu that you are looking for. You may
> have another
> problem - if there is no free unpartitioned space on
> the disk, you will
> need a commercial utility to resize the windows
> partition.
> 
> Gruss/Regards,
> Eduard.

or using the windows installation cd to resize the
partition (at least it works with xp)

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Re: dual boot debian on a 6100/60 mac

[ben]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 06:44 am, Amal Phadke wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:20:21PM -0800, ben wrote:
> > yo list,
> >
> > i've got 48 hours to mess with someone else's 6100/60 mac box and need to
> > know if debian can be dual-booted on that arch, running mac os8.1. i've
> > only used dual-boots on pc's up to now. 4 hours of googling isn't getting
> > me the answers i need. i don't have the system disks for the mac os, so i
> > need to do it right, or not, at all. all hints and clues greatly
> > appreciated.
> >
> > ben
>
> The short answer is NO. As far as I know, only micro-kernel Linux
> (http://www.mklinux.org) works on 6/7/8100 series of Power Macs which
> have NuBus instead of a PCI bus. PPC Linux requires PCI bus. I used
> MkLinux about 5 years ago on a 8100 class PowerMac, but now I believe
> MkLinux is practically dead.
>

thanks for the response. yeah, it does seem that you're right with the short 
answer. it's all about the issue of nubus as opposed to pci. i eventually 
dredged up that info not long after i posted. 

ben


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Audio CD playing problem solved

[Christian Mascher]

> On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 07:27:31PM +0100, Christian Mascher wrote:
> John Keniry wrote:
> > Some versions of Windows play the CD by reading the data through the
> > IDE channel, rather than using the soundcard->CDrom cable. I don't
> > know whether this is true of Win98 but you could check the cable is
> > connected.
> 
> Interesting. You did make me open my computer to have a look, as I
> wasn't that sure myself ;-) 
> 
> The cable is connected though.
> 
John was actually close to the solution. Everything else was working
fine, I could hear sound (when not coming from cd), set the volume with
aumix, even listen while cdda2wav read my audio-cd (option -e). So I
reckoned it could still be the cable. 

I wanted to test it without cable in Win98: This has the same effect:
you can see the tracks, it plays at your command, but no sound without
cable. Then I saw there were 3 sockets on the sound-card, cable was in
the middle one. Windows doesn't mind, but Linux uses only one of them.

> 
> Elimar Riesebieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggested:
> > Make sure you're member of groups audio and cdrom.
> 
> Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > It sounds like your mixer settings are too low, if everything is really
> > quiet.  Try `apt-cache search mixer` to see a list of available mixers,
> > so you can raise and lower volume settings.  I use aumixer, but YMMV.
 
Thanks for the other hints as well.

Christian


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Courier Imap

[Mikael Jirari]

Title: Courier Imap






Hi,


I've got problems condiguring courier-imap properly


-I've created dbusers
(sample)
mikael  home=/home/mikael|mail=/home/mikael/.Maildir|imappw=my_pass|uid=1000|gid=1000


- My mails are stored in /home/mikael/.Maildir


- userdb -show mikael
home=/home/mikael
mail=/home/mikael/.Maildir
imappw=my_pass
uid=1000
gid=1000


- Connection on imap server is ok with telnet


- Identification is ok (using telnet or other clients)


**
The problem is even if I have new emails in my mail box I can't retrive them.
It's like the imap server don't go in the right directory to take the mail.


Does anyone has an idea why ?


How, after a telnet 143 can I check if I have new mails ?


Ps : I used authuserdb since I was advised to do so

Snort+PostgreSQL won't work?

[Roman Joost]

I tried to play a little bit with snort and postgres, but i can't get them to
work. I installed snort-pgsql and created the tables as described in the little
howto: http://www.kellys.net/snort/.

After a restart of the snort system, it fails to output the data to the
database:

Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko postgres[9110]: [1] DEBUG:  connection: host=127.0.0.1 user=XXX 
database=snort_log
Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko postgres[9110]: [2] ERROR:  ExecAppend: Fail to add null value 
in not null attribute last_cid
Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko snort: database: postgresql_error: ERROR:  ExecAppend: Fail to 
add null value in not null attribute last_cid  
Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko snort: database: Problem obtaining SENSOR ID (sid) from 
snort_log->sensor 
Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko snort: FATAL ERROR:   When this plugin starts, a SELECT query is 
run to find the sensor id for the  currently running sensor. If the sensor id is not 
found, the plugin will run  an INSERT query to insert the proper data and generate a 
new sensor id. Then a  SELECT query is run to get the newly allocated sensor id. If 
that fails then  this error message is generated.   Some possible causes for this 
error are:   * the user does not have proper INSERT or SELECT privileges   * the 
sensor table does not exist   If you are _absolutely_ certain that you have the proper 
privileges set and  that your database structure is built properly please let me know 
if you  continue to get this error. You can contact me at ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  
Oct 29 16:01:47 gecko postgres[9110]: [3] DEBUG:  pq_recvbuf: unexpected EOF on client 
connection

I looked a bit around in the net and found a message about a bug in the
postgresDB. 

http://www.geocrawler.com/lists/3/SourceForge/4890/50/9885565/

Maybe anyone is using the latest debian snort with postgres? The fix displayed
in the mail, won't work and i don't want to recompile the hole database.

Thanks for comments...

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Re: fetchmail or exim - what is failing?

[Gerald Livingston]

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:35:42 +0530
Sandip P Deshmukh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> hello all
> 
> so far, i have set up exim properly. it is able to send messages. i
> also used fetchmailconf and it created a .fetchmailrc file in ~. i
> have checked and there is no .procmailrc or .forward file in ~.
> 
> .fetchmailrc:
> 
> # Configuration created Fri Oct 25 13:38:42 2002 by fetchmailconf
> set postmaster "sandip"
> set bouncemail
> set no spambounce
> set properties ""
> set daemon 5
> poll 192.168.100.1 with proto POP3
>   user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here
> 
> etc.
> 
> now, here is output of fetchmail -c:
> 
> 5 messages for deshmukh at 192.168.100.1 (17323 octets).
> etc.
> 
> 
> now, at this time, /var/log/exim/mainlog does not contain any 
> information regarding fetchmail's attempts. i wonder how does
> fetchmail -c not get logged in /var/log/exim/mainlog
> 
> now, finally, hoping that fetchmail will get the messages for me, i
> ran fetchmail. here is what i get in /var/log/exim/mainlog:
> 
> 2002-10-29 12:15:13 verify failed for SMTP recipient
> deshmukh@localhost from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> H=localhost [127.0.0.1] U=sandip
> 
> now, /var/mail/sandip is a 0byte file. there is no mbox file in ~.

According to your .fetchmailrc your username on the local machine is
'deshmukh' (This line defines that:)

" user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'deshmukh' here"

Everywhere else you refer to yourself as "sandip". Fetchmail is telling
exim to put all the mail in /var/mail/deshmukh but there is no local
user named 'deshmukh'. Those messages are getting bounced. 

Change .fetchmailrc to read:

" user 'deshmukh' there with password 'xxx' is 'sandip' here"

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IIS worms and apache

[Paul Johnson]

Is there some apache module that will notice various IIS exploits in
real time, look up the proper contacts and report it to the
corresponding abuse contacts automagically?

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Q: Debian, fvwm, virtual desktops and howto place specific programs at startup

[Lukas Ruf]

Dear all,

I make use of fvwm on Debian unstable and start fvwm with startx.  I
have seveal virtual desktops.  On some, the first thing I do after
starting fvwm is placing the same programs every time, e.g. jpilot on
the first virtual desktop.

My question:  Is there a way to specify for startup of fvwm where to
place which programs, i.e. can I automate the launching of jpilot on
the first virtual desktop?

Thanks for any enlightment,
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Re: How do I prevent DHCP'd interfaces from coming up automatically on boot?

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 06:02:43PM -0800, Joe Emenaker wrote:
| I've got a built-in ethernet jack on my laptop. Being a laptop... this jack
| is often not plugged into anything (aka: I don't want it coming up
| automatically on boot). However, being a laptop, when it *is* plugged in, it
| gets plugged in at a variety of places (aka: I need DHCP).
| 
| The problem is that, if I set up my /etc/network/interfaces like so:

|   iface eth0 inet dhcp
| 
| then Debian seems to try to bring up eth0 *anyway*. /etc/network/interfaces
| claims that I can use a "noauto " directive, but I get an error
| message on the console (about a syntax error in /etc/network/interfaces, of
| course) at boot time when I try that.

Are you using potato or woody?  I think the ifupdown package changed
the behavior between those releases.  In the old release, everything
was "auto" by default unless you said 'noauto'.  In the current
release it is not auto unless you say 'auto'.

| Am I missing something here? Is it the prescribed behavior for the "dhcp"
| directive to imply "auto"?

Not that I am aware of.

The solution I have on this laptop is the following in
/etc/network/interfaces :

~~~
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
# only try DHCP if there is a physical link
pre-up /usr/local/sbin/check-link.sh eth0
~~~

/usr/local/sbin/check-link.sh is attached.  It requires the
'net-tools' package.

The only problem with this is that in the case I don't have a link
while the system boots, ifup still thinks eth0 is configured.  If I
later insert a NIC and connect it, I need to '--force' ifup to bring
the interface up.

-D

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Re: IIS worms and apache

[Derrick 'dman' Hudson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 07:49:58AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
| Is there some apache module that will notice various IIS exploits in
| real time, look up the proper contacts and report it to the
| corresponding abuse contacts automagically?

An incomplete answer follows.

/etc/apache/httpd.conf :

# Nimda/CR spoof
Alias /d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nimbda.py"
Alias /scripts/..../winnt/system32/cmd.exe "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nimbda.py"
Alias /scripts/../../winnt/system32/cmd.exe "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nimbda.py"
Alias /scripts/..À¯../winnt/system32/cmd.exe "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/nimbda.py"


nimbda.py is attached.

I follow it up with the following cron job :
# Update the nimbda blacklist daily.
0  2  *  * *  root   /etc/FIREWALL/FIREWALL > /dev/null

and the attached script run early during my firewall script.

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#!/usr/bin/python2.3

version = "$Revision: 1.2 $"[11:-2]

"""
$Id: nimbda.py,v 1.2 2002/08/05 14:19:39 dman Exp $
$Revision: 1.2 $

CGI script to answer nimbda/codered probes.  Sends a nice alert back to the
domain of the offender before droplisting their IP.

TODO :
.   store a history for the address
.   periodically clean out the cleaned-up addresses
.   use a script rather than 'cat' in the firewall script
(this goes along with the first "todo" item)
"""

##True=1 ; False=0 ; # builtin in 2.3!

import httplib
import os
import sys
import urllib
import urlparse



print "Content-Type: text/plain\n\n"

offender = os.environ['REMOTE_ADDR']


# XXX
if not not __debug__ :
import time
f = file( "/tmp/nimbdacgi.timestamp" , "a" )

s = '%s%s\n' % ( time.asctime() , offender )

f.write( s )
print s[:-1]
#f.write( time.asctime() )
#f.write( '' )
#f.write( offender )
#f.write( '\n' )
f.close()
del f , time

MESSAGE = r"net send * CodeRed!  NIMBDA!  Clean it up already!  IIS is FUBAR!"
#URLPATH = "/var/www/scripts/root.exe" 
URLPATH = "/d/winnt/system32/cmd.exe"
URLQUERY = urllib.quote( MESSAGE )

blocklist_path = "/tmp/iptables.droplist.nimbda"

def main() :

##try :
##f = file( blocklist_path , "a" )
##print repr(f)
##f.write( "" ) ;
##f.close()
##except :
##print "What in the world!?"
##import traceback
##traceback.print_exc()

# don't use a proxy
try :
del os.environ['http_proxy']
except KeyError : pass

# don't let any password prompts stop us!
sys.stdin.close()
sys.stdin = file( "/dev/null" , 'r' )

addrs = load_blocklist()
old_count = len(addrs)
addrs[offender] = None

# sanity check
import threading
class ProbeThread( threading.Thread ) :
def __init__( self , addr ) :
self.addr = addr
threading.Thread.__init__( self )
def run( self ) :
#if probe( self.addr ) :
#append_to_blocklist( self.addr )
probe( self.addr )
append_to_blocklist( self.addr )
# end class ProbeThread

tlist = []
for o in addrs.keys() :
print o
if o in ( '127.0.0.1' , ) :
print "Skipping address %s" % o
del addrs[ o ]
continue
pt = ProbeThread( o )
pt.start()
tlist.append( pt )
while tlist :
thread = tlist.pop()
thread.join()
final_count = len(addrs)
new_count = final_count - old_count
#alist = addrs.keys() 
#alist.sort()
#update_blocklist( alist )
if __debug__ :
print
print "Loaded %d old addresses." % old_count
print "Located %d new addresses." % new_count
print "Currently blocking %d nimbda/codered-infected IPs" % final_count
#print "Blocked addresses :"
#print "\n".join( alist )
#end main()


def load_blocklist( ) :
"""Load the existing blocklist."""
addresses = {}
if os.path.exists( blocklist_path ) :
f = file( blocklist_path , 'r' )
for line in f :
l = line.strip()
if l :
addresses[ l ] = None
return addresses
# end load_blocklist()


def append_to_blocklist( addr ) :
"""Append a single address to the blocklist"""
f = file( blocklist_path , 'a' )
f.write( addr )
f.write( '\n' )
f.close()
# end append_to_blocklist()


def update_blocklist( addrs ) :
"""Recreate the blocklist from the address sequence"""
addrs.sort()
f = file( blocklist_path , 'w' )
for a in addrs :
f.write( a )
f.write( '\n' )
f.close()
# end update_blocklist()


def probe( addr ) :
"""Probe the addresses for nimbda."""

# guilty until proven innocent
retval = True

try :
  

xv?

[Gregory Seidman]

Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
one has bothered to package it?

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Re: installing a printer

[Travis Crump]

Stephen Gran wrote:

i recently have attached an hp710c printer to the lpt1 port. and i do
not have any set-up cds, floppies, etc.



Be aware that lpt1 = lp0 in linux.  Real geeks begin couning at zero
(^8.  You shouldn't need any drivers for this printer.  I think lpr,
lprng, and CUPS all have good default ppd's for it.



hp710c is a Windows printer.  It requires the drivers provided by the 
pnm2ppa package.


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Re: xv?

[Gottfried Szing]

Gregory Seidman wrote:


Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
one has bothered to package it?
 


do you mean xview? i think xv is the old name.

cu


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Re: xv?

[Robert L. Harris]

I believe it's non-free...

Thus spake Gregory Seidman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:11:55 -0500
> From: Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian users list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: xv?
> X-Mailing-List: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archive/latest/242226
> 
> Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
> one has bothered to package it?
> 
> --Greg
> 
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Re: xv?

[Mark Janssen]

On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 17:11, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
> one has bothered to package it?

AFAIK it's non free, (shareware) and not allowing modification and/or
binary distribution.

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dselect and apt-get error messages

[Simon Pepping]

Hi,

I am trying to upgrade from potato to woody. I get the following error
messages:

- When I use dselect: Couldn't perform immediate configuration
- When I use apt-get install dpkg apt debconf: Couldn't configure a
  pre-depend

I am running woody, with these versions:
ii  apt0.3.19 Advanced front-end for dpkg
ii  dpkg   1.6.14 Package maintenance system for Debian
ii  debconf0.2.80.16  Debian configuration management system

dkpg --audit shows no problems in the current system.

What do these error message indicate, and how can I continue?

Regards, Simon

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Re: xv?

[sean finney]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 05:18:13PM +0100, Gottfried Szing wrote:
> Gregory Seidman wrote:
> 
> >Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
> >one has bothered to package it?
> >  
> >
> 
> do you mean xview? i think xv is the old name.

xv and xview are different programs.  personally i prefer xview,
because a) it's faster and less invasive, and b) it's not non-free.
xview and its kin of programs provided by the xloadimage package can
do everything that xv can afaik.

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Re: `gnome-approved' dark-background theme for gnome 2?

[Colin Walters]

[ Not sure if you're on -user or -gtk-gnome, so I'll CC you ]


On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 22:14, Miles Bader wrote:
> Gnome 2.0 has hit unstable, and all my carefully crafted settings blew
> up (it mumbled something about converting them, but the conversion
> failed; it'd be nice if it told you why...).

We need a tarball of your ~/.gnome directory.  Note that once we find
the bug in the conversion scripts, you can rm -rf ~/.gnome2 and try
again.

You can see a detailed log of things in ~/.gnome2/debian-upgrade.log.  I
just added a note to this effect to the error dialog.


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Re: xv?

[Michael West]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:11:55AM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
> one has bothered to package it?
> 
> --Greg
> 
I prefer xzgv

from http://xzgv.browser.org/ :

xzgv differs from other picture viewers for X in that it uses one window
for both the file selector and viewer, it (unlike xv) allows both
scrolling and fit-to- window methods of viewing large pictures, and it
(unlike xv and some others) doesn't ever mangle the picture's aspect
ratio without you telling it to.

and it is in main

 ~Michael



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Re: Q: Debian, fvwm, virtual desktops and howto place specific programs at startup

[Matthew Weier O'Phinney]

-- Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 29 October 2002, 04:51 PM +0100):
> I make use of fvwm on Debian unstable and start fvwm with startx.  I
> have seveal virtual desktops.  On some, the first thing I do after
> starting fvwm is placing the same programs every time, e.g. jpilot on
> the first virtual desktop.
> 
> My question:  Is there a way to specify for startup of fvwm where to
> place which programs, i.e. can I automate the launching of jpilot on
> the first virtual desktop?
Use .xinitrc to start programs on startx. In terms of getting them to
place in specific areas, if the program has a --geometry option, this
would be the way to go. As an example,

#!/bin/sh
# Start up some important servers...
numlockx &
xscreensaver -no-splash &
exec fvwm

Make sure that the last line executes your window manager, and that you
precede it with "exec"; also, be sure that any programs preceding this
line are executed in the background (e.g., are followed by the "&"
operator).

In blackbox, there's two tools, bblaunch and bbappconf, that can
configure which workspace (note: *not* virtual desktop) a program starts
on. A patch for bbappconf, located at
http://xor.orodu.netbb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch
also allows you to specify geometry for an application that doesn't have
a --geometry option.

I *don't know* if either of these tools work with other window managers.
They might be worth looking into, however.

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Re: xv?

[David Z Maze]

"Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I believe it's non-free...

...and more to the point, I believe it's non-free to the point of
being non-distributable.  Googling for 'debian xv license' brings some
useful hits; one of these is
http://www.fifi.org/doc/xv-doc/html/availability.html, which states
that you can only redistribute unmodified source and binary packages
(e.g., not Debian packages at all), and then not for a fee.

Fortunately, there are lots of DFSG-free programs in the image-viewer
space.  For looking at a single file, I tend to use 'display' out of
the imagemagick package; for browsing directories, I use xzgv; for
image manipulations I don't want to do at the command line (via
netpbm) I use the GIMP.

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Help with system recovery

[Brad Cramer]

I am running Debian Sid with an AMD Athlon 1400 512 DDR 2100 Crucial ram
2-40 gig 7200 WD hard drives and GeForce Ti 200 video card. I am having a
terrible problem with the system crashing (hard, keyboard is dead only way
to reboot is power button) this is while X is running and I have the newest
Nvidia drivers install. The caps lock and scroll lock lights are flashing on
the keyboard but that is it. I am running kernel 2.4.19 I made with
make-kpkg and changed nothing from my 2.4.18 kernel. I had a bad problem
with /dev/hda3 (ext3 filesystem) which is mounted as /usr and I think this
happened from having to do a hard reboot.  I ran fsck -f on it and fixed
alot of problems and had to reinstall a few packages to get things to work.
And I thought that fixed the problem, that was last night but today again
the system was locked up while running xscreensaver and I had to push the
reset button. I can't find anything in the log files that seems to tell me
what is happening. Does anyone have any ideas what may be going on or how to
fix this problem. What should I be looking for in log files? Could it be bad
RAM? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Brad Cramer
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Scrolling in Netscape 4.x, .Xdefaults.

[ThanhVu Nguyen]

Hello,  I remember I used to be able to put something in .Xdefaults and
scroll in Netscape 4.x  .  I forget what it is.  Someone still have
those setting on NS 4.x , can you show them to me .. Thanks.  

I use Galeon mainly but my online class has this quiz taking script that
only works with IE and Netscape 4.x so I am forced to use it.  

tvn


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Not a question---case of the missing /home partition data

[alex]

When I installed Debian (Progeny), I used hda6 for /home and
hdb5 for / and later, a directory /da6   under  /mnt   

Everything seemed to work very nicely but I was puzzled why I
couldn't see /home's data when I went directly to hda6.  All
I saw was  ./  ../

So,

I ran the following to see what happens to /dev/hda6 (which is
mounted in /home) when data is added or removed from /home

progeny:/home# df
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204164 143738846%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27788 1150380 3%  /home
progeny:/home# mkdir haha
progeny: home# df(watch what happens to /dev/hda6)
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204164 143738846%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27792 1150376 3%  /home
progeny:/home# rmdir haha
progeny: home# df(again-see /dev/hda6)
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204164 143738846%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27788 1150380 3%  /home
(It's evident that when data is added or removed from  /home,
it affects  dev/hda6 but not /dev/hdb5

Next-switch to access hda6 directly and create a directory 'zits'

progeny:/home# mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt/da6; cd /mnt/da6; ls -aF 
--color=auto
./  ../
progeny:/mnt/da6# df
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204212 143734046%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27788 1150380 3%  /home
progeny:/mnt/da6# mkdir zits
progeny:/mnt/da6# ls -aF --color=auto
./ ../ zits
progeny:/mnt/da6# df(look for the changes)
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204216 143733646%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27788 1150380 3%  /home

Next--'zits' removed from hda6

progeny:/mnt/da6# rmdir zits
progeny:/mnt/da6# df  (again--check the changes)
Filesystem1K-blocks  Used  Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb5  2782920 1204212 143734046%  /
/dev/hda6  1241220   27788 1150380 3%  /home
progeny:/mnt/da6#

Notice that when data was sent directly to hda6, it had no
effect on /dev/hda6's df status.  Instead, the change
occurred in the root directory, /dev/hdb5.

From this, my eventual conclusion is that it's the method
I use to access hda6 that prevents seeing /home data in hda6.
  
Breaking it down, the steps are:
#mount -t ext2 /dev/hda6 /mnt/da6  (da6 is in  /mnt)
#cd /mnt/da6
#ls -aF --color=auto
./ ../(no sign of /home data)

No wonder!hda6 has been diverted away from /home to /mnt/da6.
I had trapped myself into a misconception that /mnt/da6 and /home
should have the same data.

Just to verify my conclusion, I went to /mnt/da6 and did
/mnt/da6 #  mkdir  stupid

Then I ran my routine to examine the contents of hda6 and what
I saw was the contents of /mnt/da6
./ ../ stupid( I'm leaving that in /mnt/da6 as a reminder)

Case solved!!!   My routine to access hda6 to see /home's data is
wrong .. it accesses /mnt/da6, instead.  Everything had been working fine
from the start. I just couldn't understand why I couldn't see /home's
data in hda6.

If you want to see what's in /home's partition hda6, look at /home.

I suppose the same reasoning could be applied to any additional
partitions that were created for system root directories.

My excuse?  See  my   /mnt/da6/, above.

























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Re: Q: Debian, fvwm, virtual desktops and howto place specific programs at startup

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 08:39, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
>
> In blackbox, there's two tools, bblaunch and bbappconf, that can
> configure which workspace (note: *not* virtual desktop) a program starts
> on. A patch for bbappconf, located at
> http://xor.orodu.netbb/bbappconf.move_resize_fix_iconify.patch
> also allows you to specify geometry for an application that doesn't have
> a --geometry option.
>
> I *don't know* if either of these tools work with other window managers.
> They might be worth looking into, however.

no, they don't.  They are currently written only for blackbox.  They will be 
ported to netwm/ewmh soon.  However, last I checked fvwm did not support ewmh 
yet and instead still used its own protocol.


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Re: KDE wont start on unstable after upgrade

[Stephen Gran]

This one time, at band camp, David Goodenough said:
> I recently upgraded a machine which had been installed as unstable but had
> not been upgraded for a few weeks.  Everything has upgraded cleanly, and the
> machine used to work quite satisfactorily.  Now when I boot the machine it
> starts KDM quite happily, but then when I login using kdm it clears the screen
> and then redisplays the kdm dialog.  Both the kdm dialog and background appear
> to be normal and there are no errors in /var/log/XFree86.log.0.  This happens
> whatever the user (there are 2 normal users + root on the machine).
> 
> Login on through one of the tty consoles works just fine for all the IDs, and
> exactly the same behaviour happens if I logon at the console and then issue 
> startx.
> 
> I can not find any error messages anywhere, anyone got any ideas?
> 
> David
Look at ~/.xsession-errors - that's where you'll see errors in this
case.  If there's nothing obvious there, try moving .xsession out of the
way, and trying to startx again.  It sounds like X itself is working
fine, just that something is bolloxing up your logins.  Is this a
problem for root as well?

Steve
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months.  I just love debugging ;-)
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RE: KDE still won't load completly

[Daniel Fabian]

> It may be a problem with X instead of with KDE. If there are any other
> wm's listed in the KDM menus, such as ICEWM or WindowMaker, try one of
> those. Also, take KDM out of the picture. Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to the
> first virtual terminal, create the files .xinitrc and .xsession, with
> the single line
> icewm
> and make sure icewm is installed (apt-get install icewm), then run
> "startx -- :1" which will start a second instance of X on the second X
> display (VT7).

I installed icewm and it works just fine. I don't really want to install
gnome, because I prefere KDE and don't have enough diskspace to just try
gnome out, but I bet it would work.

> Sometimes a font problem will prevent X from starting up; sometimes not.
> If there aren't any other errors, then yeah, installing that package
> might help.

Nope, the package xfonts-pex did not help. However the pex-related
error-message is gone. But it still crashes with a "signal 11" when kde is
"initializing peripherals".

> Kent

Thanks,
Daniel>



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Re: Mutt and mailboxes

[Siraj 'Sid' Rakhada]

--On Monday, October 14, 2002 10:33:22 -0500 "Keith G. Murphy" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I just noticed that it looks like the POP3 functionality has been
integrated into the latest squirrelmail (that is why one of the plugins
is marked "obsolete"), but the documentation on that is extremely sparse.
Some time, I am going to play with it...


All the pop3 mailfetch 'plugin' on squirrelmail does is logs into a pop3 
server and downloads the messages into an imap folder.
I have a few users who quite like the functionality of it.

Regards,

Sid


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Re: Q: Debian, fvwm, virtual desktops and howto place specific programs at startup

[Michael Naumann]

On Tuesday 29 October 2002 16:51, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I make use of fvwm on Debian unstable and start fvwm with startx.  I
> have seveal virtual desktops.  On some, the first thing I do after
> starting fvwm is placing the same programs every time, e.g. jpilot on
> the first virtual desktop.
>
> My question:  Is there a way to specify for startup of fvwm where to
> place which programs, i.e. can I automate the launching of jpilot on
> the first virtual desktop?

Yes, fvwm is highly configurable.
If you have something like
Style   "jpilot"StartsOnPage 1 0
in your ~/.fvwm2rc, then anytime and no matter how you start Jpilot,
it will be put in the appropriate Page.

Also, if you have something like
  AddToFunc InitFunctionI   Exec jpilot
jpilot will be started automatically when fvwm starts.

Note however, that this applies to fvwm2, which is now called fvwm.
The old fvwm is now called fvwm1 and afaik cannot do this.

>
> Thanks for any enlightment,
> Lukas

You're welcome, Michael


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Help! KDE 3.0.4, Qt & PostgreSQL

[Setyo Nugroho]

Hi,
1. Just upgraded my KDE from 3.0.3 to 3.0.4. Qt is automatically
upgraded to 3.0.5. Now I cannot connect QPSQL7 & QMYSQL3 to QtDesigner.
The error message is "Could not connect to database. ... Driver not
loaded." 
FYI drivers have been activated, using '#/etc/init.d/postgresql restart'
for postgresql. And I can create, edit a database using createdb.
Similar with mysql. 

The flwg packages have also been installed:libpgsql2 postgresql-dev
libpgsql2 postgresql-dev

Why is it? Could someone help me please? 

2. Just tried to downgrade to KDE 3.0.3 using pinning method. 

This is my /etc/apt/preference file:
Package: *qt3*
Pin: version 3.0.3*
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: kde*
Pin: version 3.0.3*
Pin-Priority: 1001

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 75

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 75

As I gave command "apt-get dist-upgrade", all were upgraded to 3.0.4.  

Regards,

Setyo Nugroho





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Re: IIS worms and apache

[Craig Dickson]

Paul Johnson wrote:

> Is there some apache module that will notice various IIS exploits in
> real time, look up the proper contacts and report it to the
> corresponding abuse contacts automagically?

In some circles, that would be too easily mistaken for a DDOS attack tool.

Craig


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Re: java 1.3 and glibc 2.3.1

[Craig Dickson]

Richard Gellert Roman wrote:

> I am not sure, if it's right to post sid-related mails here, sorry for
> the inconvenience.

Yes, this is the right place to post questions about any Debian setup.

> I recently updated my testing/unstable Debian, and had to recognize,
> that java 1.3.1 from Sun did not run any more:
> 
> gellert@ritch:~$ javac
> Error occurred during initialization of VM
> Unable to load native library: /usr/local/java/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so:
> symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with
> link time reference
> 
> Woah. Downgrading to older glibc would have been to difficult because of
> the dependencies, and yes, I do need version 1.3 of Java to use PSE Pro.

I had the same problem with jdk 1.4. I find that upgrading to 1.4.1 fixes
it.

The problem here is that some idiot at Sun put a call to __libc_wait in
the JVM. __libc_wait is (was) an internal function of libc 2.2 that
should never have been called directly from outside libc, and it no
longer exists in libc 2.3.

I don't know what PSE Pro is; does it really work only on 1.3? You can't
use 1.4.1? What I've done for a few things is use 1.4.1 with the
j2ee.jar from 1.3 (since AFAIK there is still no jdk1.4-ee). I haven't
found this to cause any problems.

Craig


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sometimes the lilo boot menu does not show up unless one hits shift or something

[Walter Tautz]

basically it doesn't show the graphical menu of my kernels...it just boots into
the first image listed how can I make it show the menu without coaxing
it.


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Re: IIS worms and apache

[Gottfried Szing]

Craig Dickson wrote:


Is there some apache module that will notice various IIS exploits in
real time, look up the proper contacts and report it to the
corresponding abuse contacts automagically?
   


In some circles, that would be too easily mistaken for a DDOS attack tool.
 


assuming that the "attacker" comes through a proxy this is really nice. 
everyone else
using the proxy will be blocked. so this is the opposite of a a DDOS 
attack because
not many people are attacking one host, but one host is blocking many 
people. a really
"nice" behaviour.

may i have the web host URL which is using this approach? just a joke :)))

but why is it useful to block such people from which the attack is 
coming from? is
there really some reason for it?

cu



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3.0: Booting From CD

[geno]

Is there a way to boot an installed system from one of the Debian 
installation CDs?

Thanks.

geno



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Re: java 1.3 and glibc 2.3.1

[Gottfried Szing]

Craig Dickson wrote:


I don't know what PSE Pro is; does it really work only on 1.3? You can't
use 1.4.1? What I've done for a few things is use 1.4.1 with the
j2ee.jar from 1.3 (since AFAIK there is still no jdk1.4-ee). I haven't
found this to cause any problems.
 


i have the same problem. but not with the pse pro, but with the bea 
weblogic which
runs only with a jdk 1.3.1. ok, a jdk 1.2 is also working, but the 
performance is very
poor. for this reason i cannot run weblogic with debian.

is there no real solution for this problem? sth like chroot-ing, adding 
an additional
library?

cu, goofy


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Re: xv?

[Colin Watson]

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 11:11:55AM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
> Is there a policy reason why there is no xv package, or is it just that no
> one has bothered to package it?

It was removed some time ago because its licence doesn't allow us to
distribute binaries built from modified source. The xv package involved
modifications to the source (presumably to fit Debian policy or to fix
bugs), so the package had to be withdrawn.

See  (ignoring the spat about packaging
formats) and .

Cheers,

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Re: 3.0: Booting From CD

[Michelle Storm]

> Is there a way to boot an installed system from one of the Debian 
> installation CDs?

If you're asking what I believe you're asking. I had the same problem.
I damaged my system somehow so it wouldn't boot on it's own, and had to
figure a way to start the system from a cd.

try booting from the CD
then at the prompt type: rescue root=/dev/

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Re: Partition Resizing/Re-arranging *complete*

[Michelle Storm]

Ok, Sorry for the LONG reply back on the status of this.

1) I had to reformat, I damaged it to the point it wouldn't start for
nothing.

2) I ended up learning a lot, (was down for 4 - 5 days though)

When I followed the suggestions given.. It all seemed to work fine..
until I rebooted my computer. Then lilo would give me an error (don't
have the error as I got frustrated and just reformated.

Thanks for the help though
(throws parted back in the garbage <-- my personal feelings, nothing
against the people that made it) 



On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 02:26:44AM -0700, Michelle Storm wrote:
> Ok, was told this would be more useful as far as partition information
> 
> #parted -s /dev/hda print
> 
> Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-76319.085 megabytes
> Disk label type: msdos
> MinorStart   End Type  Filesystem  Flags
> 1  0.031  7.844  primary   ext3boot
> 2  7.844721.669  primary   linux-swap  
> 3721.670   1200.168  primary   ext3
> 4   1200.168  76316.594  extended  
> 5   1200.199   8354.113  logical   ext3
> 6   8354.145  32192.753  logical   ext3
> 7  32192.785  51269.941  logical   ext3
> 8  51269.972  65577.832  logical   ext3
> 9  65577.863  76316.594  logical   ext3
> 
> 
> > Ok. For starters, what you're most likely going to want to use is
> > parted. (apt-get install parted)
> 
> Already installed
> 
> 
> > The link to the homepage should be either in the package description
> > or the documentation. I'd strongly suggest reading ALL of the documentation.
> 
> Reading man pages now, looking for homepage, will read it when I find it.
> 
> 
> > Now, as for recommendations, here are mine. For starters, quit using
> > /usr/local. I prefer to have all of my users (myself included) store ALL
> > of their personal files within their home directory. This makes managing
> > it all much easier. Just my suggestions. Good luck. :)
> 
> The reasoning behind using /usr/local for storing some files is:
> 1) Roommate that introduced me to Debian suggested I use my /usr/local for
>my publicly shared files (mp3's, video's, etc)
> 2) I add and delete users constantly, and if there's something I want to keep
>I try to move it to a central location.
> 3) Putting it in /usr/local has the added benefit that no one can delete it
>accidentally, unless they have root access.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michelle Alexia "Jade" Storm



-- 
Michelle Alexia "Jade" Storm



msg09945/pgp0.pgp
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Re: Recording on SB Live

[Burkhard Ritter]

On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, sdownes wrote:

> I'm using the emu10k1 driver & I've been trying a few bits of software
> over the last few weeks  to no effect. (Most recently wavp & wavr) Reading
> the how to gives very little info & seems to think it should just work.
>
> Reading your reply I have had a look at the Alsa website & also the Deb
> packages relating to it. Do I need to be using this  & if so what
> packages? Deb lists a bucketfull of Alsa packages & the first glance at
> the website didn't enlighten me a lot.

You don't need Alsa, but it does better than the kernel driver concerning
some aspects. Though, in most cases the emu10k1 kernel driver will be
sufficient. What Alsa packages you need depends on your kernel version.
These many packages are for different kernels. Have a look which you need.
For better customization,etc you can compile the Alsa stuff from source,
too.

Btw; are you sure you have set the volume of the in gain, etc correctly?

>
> Many thanks for your reply.
>
> Steve
>
>  Original Message 
>
> On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, sdownes wrote:
>
> > I've got a deb 2.4 system (testing) working fine & my soundblaster live
> > card is working fine as far as playing is concerned. It will take inputs
> > from wav files & line inputs & play them no problem. I am also using
> aumix
> > without problems.
> >
> > I cannot persuade it to record from any source to file.
> >
> > Any pointers please?
> >
> > Steve
> How are you trying to do it? What are you using (alsa, oss, etc)?


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