Automatic folder pruning (almost working)

[Mike Fedyk]

Hi,

I've found a way to automatically keep my list folders small, and do it
automatically with mutt.  Let me show you how I did it.  There's one
problem, but I'll get to that...

Let's look at some relevant portions of my .muttrc:

### 
### Scoring 
### 
set score = yes 
 
#replied
score ~Q =980 
#from me
score ~P =970 
#references mmp   
score ~x(matchmail.com|mis-mike-wstn) =960  
#mark old messages for delete (only in folders
in in/ or lists/)
#check colors below 
folder-hook !in/|lists/ unscore ~r>4w =999 
folder-hook in/|lists/ score ~r>4w =999 
#warn about soon to be deleted messages (only in folders in in/ or lists/)
#check colors below 
folder-hook !in/|lists/ unscore ~r>3w =998 
folder-hook in/|lists/ score ~r>3w =998 
#do the delete, but only move it to the deleted folder (it's log rotated by a 
cron script)
folder-hook in/|lists/ 'push T~n999\n1\n/~O\n\;s=del/deleted\n'

#Confirm copy to mbox? 
set confirmappend = yes

I have some threads in my inbox folder that I want to keep longer than four
weeks (look at the "push" command), and I noticed that each thread had a
message and a reply, so replied, from me, and messages that reference my
domain or local workstation needed to be excluded from the "to be deleted"
scoring (999).

Whew.  Now let's look at the delete function (the push line).  It needs to
be all scrunched together like that to work, but I'm going to split it up to
exibit how it works:

T~n999\n
Tag all messages with a score of 999

1\n
Go to message number 1 (this is important -- I'll show you why later)

/~O\n
Go to the first old message

\;
run a command on the tagged messages

s=del/deleted\n
save the messages in =del/deleted

Now all you need is a cron script that will rotate that file called =del/deleted

25 6* * 1-5 savelog -c 150 -t -p $HOME/Mail/del/deleted

This will keep 6 months of old email that can be easily searched with normal
tools.  Note: you want to make sure you have "-t" in the savelog command.
It will create a new blank file.  The reason why is that I have mutt default
to maildir type mboxes and savelog can't do much with that, and with that
empty file, mutt will think it's a mbox file and append...

For this to work, it depends on a specific directory structure.  Here's how
my tree looks under $HOME/Mail:

.
|-- archive
...
|-- del
|-- in
|   |-- inbox
|   |-- jacquelyn_fedyk
|   |-- junk
|   |   |-- match.com
|   |   |-- not2me
|   |   `-- spam
|   |-- lists
|   |   |-- announcements
|   |   |-- debian
|   |   |-- debian-devel
|   |   |-- debian-user
|   |   |-- ext2-devel
|   |   |-- ext3
|   |   |-- freeswan
|   |   |-- kernel-janitor
|   |   |-- linux-aacraid
|   |   |-- linux-mm
|   |   |-- lkml
|   |   |-- openoffice.org
|   |   |-- powerpc
|   |   |-- samba
|   |   `-- wine
|-- log
|-- people
...
`-- postponed

All mail folders not under in are *not* automatically pruned for old
messages...

Now, let's get to the problem.

The reason why I have the (Go to message number 1, then go to the first old
message) command in there is for 
when the tag doesn't find any messages with a score of 999.  If there are no
messages with a score of 999 and it doesn't go to line number 1 then it
would delete the message that is currently selected, which is usually a new
message (or oldest "old" message if there are not new messages).  I haven't
been able to find any kind of "if" function in mutt config files. (if there
are no tagged messages then don't do anything! -- etc.)  Currently, I just
"set confirmappend = yes" so that it asks me before it adds to =del/deleted,
but it gets annoying because sometimes I want to keep the first old message
and the top most message...  So, any mutt gurus here that can help solve this?

PS: Want colors?  Try these:

#URLs
color body  red black [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
color body  red black (https?|ftp)://[\-\.\,/%~_:?\#a-zA-Z0-9]+

#Diff -u Patch coloring
color body  brightred black (^[-].*)|([-][-][-].*)  
   
color body  brightgreen black (^[+].*)|([+][+][+].*) 

#tagged
color index default brightdefault "~T"  
#old 
#color indexwhite default "~O" 
# New or replied to: 
color index brightdefault default "~N|~Q"  
# New or replied to:
color index brightdefault default "~N|~Q"

#

GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

I am intriguesd by GPG.

$ gpg  --recv-keys D5DE453D

gpg: requesting key D5DE453D from wwwkeys.pgp.net ...
gpg: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding
gpg: key D5DE453D: not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
$ gpg  --edit-key D5DE453D
Secret key is available.

pub  1024D/D5DE453D  created: 2000-09-24 expires: never  trust: f/u
sub  1024g/D130E875  created: 2000-09-24 expires: 2001-09-24
sub  1024g/ECF1020D  created: 2002-02-08 expires: 2005-02-07
(1)  Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(2). Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(3)  Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(4)  Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(5)  Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Command> quit
$

What is going on with above?

What is / "period" after (2) doing?

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+  My debian quick-reference, http://qref.sourceforge.net/quick/  +

groups

[Greg Murphy]

I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives each 
user his/her own group.

1. Why did debian adopt this method? 
2. If say, I want to add two of my users to the same group, is it safe to add 
them to the already existing "users (GID=100)" group, or is this reserved for 
some program that comes with debian?


Thanks.

Re: Could not connect passive socket?

[Martin Rowe]

On Friday 08 February 2002 11:10 pm, John Lord wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>
> The last couple of days I have not been able to d/l anything from the
> uk server, I get the following:
[snip]
> Get:2 #ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org# testing/main killustrator 1:1.1-beta2-3
> [543kB]
> Err #ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org# testing/main killustrator 1:1.1-beta2-3
>   Could not connect passive socket.
[snip]
> I normally have no problems, and have not seen this error message
> before.
>
> Hints please ;-)

Hi John

Well, you're not alone - I've been getting this on and off since the 
middle of January :( It just didn't want to know at all last night. 
Switching to http has generally worked, though even then I've had the 
occasional hiccup where it wouldn't connect. I've had to switch to http 
permanently at work as ftp access always gives connection refused - just 
to ftp.uk.debian.org. Pointing to another ftp mirror like 
ftp.fr.debian.org works fine too[1] 

If anyone more informed could enlighten us, it'd be appreciated.

Regards, Martin

[1] Though the recent rsync problems made that a bit hairy too.
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ati radeon XF86Config

[Aaron Brashears]

I just went out and got an ATI Radeon to replace my dusty old video
card. However, X doesn't seem to like my configuration for it, and
won't start as a result.

Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
you spot the error?


Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
Driver  "ati"
#VideoRam65536
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen 1"
Device  "ATI Radeon"
Monitor "NEC"
DefaultDepth 24
...
EndSection



This generates the following errors during the start up of X:

(II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
(II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PP (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 Pro PR (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
ATI Radeon VE (AGP)
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
(II) ATI:  Candidate "Device" section "ATI Radeon".
(WW) ATI:  PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
(EE) No devices detected.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Re: Games on Linux?

[Brian Nelson]

Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 11:06:23AM -0800, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > It would be s easy on most cases if they just used OpenGL and not 
> > > Direct3D.
> > > That's why Quake III runs so well under X and nonOpenGL games are so 
> > > difficult
> > > to port...
> > > 
> > > I have absolutelly no idea why anyone would use Direct3D instead of OpenGL
> > > but then that's my POV.. :)
> > 
> > Well, since the Xbox's XDK is essentially DirectX 8, a game written
> > with DX8 is trivially easy to port to the Xbox.  That's one reason...
> 
> Doesn't PS2 use OpenGL? I think it does..

There's a 3rd party port of OGL to the PS2, but I don't know if it's
fast enough to really be useful.  My guess would be no...

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Re: PHP4 problem after dist-upgrade

[Paul Hampson]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:46:30PM -0500, Jason M. Harvey wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:23:02AM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote:
> | On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 07:31:50AM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> | > in looking at the dependencies for PHP4, apache-common is
> | > listed twice, once with  apache-common (>= 1.3.22) and
> | > the other apache-common (<< 1.3.22.1) 
> | > my current version (sid) is apache-common 1.3.23-1 

> | If you want, you should be able to apt-get source and
> | rebuild it with dependancies on the current apache.

> i thought that was fixed at some point! here's what i did: find the deb
Fixed how? The maintainer hasn't rebuilt php4 since apache 1.3.23
entered Debian... And those _are_ the correct forward looking dependancies.
> for php4... somewhere in var/ where apt stores it's cache then, use
/var/cache/apt/archives/php4*.deb
> dpkg to install php4 like so:

> dpkg -i --ignore-depends=apache-common php4.deb

[snip]
> my whole point of rambling is that the
> "--ignore-depends=apache-common" has never caused a problem for me.

Unless apache decides to change it's interface in some subtle way
that breaks the php4 package. :-)

And of course, by recompiling, you don't have to worry about apt-get
noticing the broken dependancies. ;-)

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KDE-Debian HowTo for KDE2 & Debian3=Woody X86. Ver 0.22

[tluxt]

It can be found here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200202/msg00097.html

This howto is in an early release form:  It is not complete, but contains
much useful information.

I hope to update this once or twice per week, and will post it to the 
debian-kde list.

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Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> gpg: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

This is from a pgp.net keyserver? If so, it has corrupted your key in the
server because there are two subkeys. Their crap software has not been
updated in far a while.

> pub  1024D/D5DE453D  created: 2000-09-24 expires: never  trust: f/u
> sub  1024g/D130E875  created: 2000-09-24 expires: 2001-09-24
> sub  1024g/ECF1020D  created: 2002-02-08 expires: 2005-02-07

Looks like it. I have this problem as well.

> (1)  Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (2). Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The dot shows your main UID.

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Re: SpamAssassin rules problems (was Re: SpamBouncer)

[Blars Blarson]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> It only seems to catch about 60% of the spam that gets past my other
>> filters.  (ordb, osirusoft, blarsbl, valid rDNS of relay, valid domain
>> in envelope from) (These catch about 90% of the spam, and an occasional
>> valid email.)
>
>Those are all checks done by Spambouncer.

I doubt it comes standardly configured for all the blacklists I
mentioned.  BlarsBL has been around less that a year, and the others
mentioned aren't that much older.  There was a lot of shuffling of
blacklists last year with orbs dieing and mail-abuse going commercial.

See http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.html for a comprehensive
list of DNS blacklists.

>Assuming it's not being maintianed anymore, how have you implemented those 
>checks?

sendmail.cf

See http://www.blars.org/mail.html for my old writeup, with a few mods
still in use.  My sendmail.mc version for debian is still in testing.
(My current mailserver is running solaris 7, I'm gradually replacing
it with a debian woody box.)

Re: Accented characters with unstable

[Tatsuya Kinoshita]

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 16:29:23 +0100,
"J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> LANG sets the preferred language for messages; it does not change the
> system's opinion of what characters are printable. Use LC_CTYPE for that.

LANG is a basic variable for the locale feature.  LC_* is not
necessary.  if LC_* is unset, LANG is used for LC_* categories.

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Re: Accented characters with unstable

[Tatsuya Kinoshita]

On 05 Feb 2002 12:03:24 +0100,
Tristan Tarrant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The only problem I have now is that it appears that my environment
> doesn't pick up what I specify in /etc/environment, and I have to set it
> up in a .bash_profile

Maybe you overwrote it somewhere in your confiles.
(/etc/profile, ~/.??*, ...)

> I guess I need LANG to be set before gnome-session or whatever gets
> called, but what is the proper way to do this ?

Did you try ~/.xsession ?

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Re: Games on Linux?

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Joey Hess wrote:

> Did loki put all their games up there for free or something?

No, but thier binaries were publically avalible.  You'll have to buy the
Windows version to get the data files to complete the set.

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Re: W32/Myparty

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:

> > where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
> > replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
> > indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
> > manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want you 
> > to
> > cc: to may address, don't do it again.
>
> How's this you fucking bitch?

Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

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Re: INFO ON COMPATABILITY???

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I AM A NEW PC USER & HAVE A COMPAQ PRESARIO 5000, W/HP OFFICEJET V40 4-IN-1
> PRINTER, COPIER, SCANNER & FAX. I RUN WINDOWS ME OPERATING SYSTEM. I WOULD
> LIKE 2 KNOW IF THE DEBIAN LINUX & WINDOWS ME ARE COMPATIBLE & CAN WORK
> TOGETHER ON THE SAME PC DRIVERS? WILL ALL PROGRAMS & SOFTWARE BE COMPATIBLE?
> THE COST? AND HOW EASY OR HARD IS IT 2 INSTALL? AND WHAICH WOULD B THE BEST
> DEBIAN LINUX OS 4 ME?THANK YOU: DON POLLARD

STOP YELLING, YOU'RE NOT ON AOL OUT HERE.  Turn off your caps lock and
forget that it exists.  Speak in something resembling proper English.

No, they can't share drivers, they're two different OSs.  Windows
programs are somewhat problematic but work in wine.  The cost is free.
Decide if it's hard to install yourself.  You'll probably want stable.

All these questions could have very readily been answered had you read
the website, http://debian.org/

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> P.S.: WILL IT RUN ON AOL???

No.  And thank God.

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[RFC] Newbiedoc: setting up new hardware devices

[Romain Lerallut]

Greetings,

I've worked for quite some time on a guide on how to
install/configure new hardware. (highly x86-centric)

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/tutorials/hardware/index-hardware.html

The aim of this doc would be to help somebody who's familiar
with the basics of Linuxing configure some not-too-exotic device
for Linux. (like a sound card, for example).

I would gladly accept any help (on the section about PnP and 
non-PnP, mostly, I think) and proof-reading.

This doc would probably complement nicely Jesse's doc on kernel
compiling.

Thanks,
Romain, who has been stuck on that one for too long...
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Problems with insmod of modules at startup

[Lukas]

Hi.
I've got some problems with my /etc/modules.
I've compiled a new Kernel (2.4.17).
Now I've got some modules which have to be insmod at startup.
I've put them in the /etc/modules.
But nothing happens.
Every time I`ve to insmod them manually.
What's wrong with my etc/modules ?

The time before dabian, I've used SuSE.
What I miss when using debian is the boot.local
Doesn't debain have the boot.local file ?
Or does it have an alternate file with the same function ?

File permissions with 2.4 kernel

[Martin]

Hi,

Whenever I mount a filesystem (Woody) without file permissions (like 
vfat, iso9660), all files are marked as executable -- this is quite 
annoying because then the syntax highlighting on the console is irritating.


I think this is caused by the new kernel.  When I boot the same system 
with an older kernel (2.2), everything is all right (no x-flag on cdroms 
e.g.).  Booting again with kernel 2.4.16 produces the problem described 
above ...


What can I do?  Is there a kernel patch available?

Thanks, Martin

xterm resource settings and woody

[CaT]

Just did an upgrade of my woody setup and found my xterm's default
resource settings changed. Most annoying. Anyhow... in trying to change
them to what I want them to be (reverse vid (white on dark), fixed default
font, no scroll bar, no visual bell, etc) I found that I couldn't figure
out how. Now I can do it -my- way and either bork some scripts or some
such but I was wondering if there was a debian way to do it. I've tried
modifying /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm* but this appears to have no impact
on the scheme of things in the end (and I did the whole logout/login
cycle). Bugger. :/ I'm also running KDE with kdm as my login manager.

Anyhow... How can I do this? Can anyone help? The present settings hurt
my eyes, give me an xterm that's 66 chars wide (when it was 80 before) a
visual bell which is excessively annoying and a scrollbar that is useless
to me due to my being happy in using the kboard to get around. Help...

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Re: SpamBouncer

[stan]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 07:55:09PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.02.07.1652 +0100]:
> > If not, any sugestions as to an alternate?
> 
> i have the ITP. but i won't get to it before next weekend. if someone
> cares to take over... 

I'm sorry, I don't undersyand. What's an ITP? Take over what?


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Re: Problems with insmod of modules at startup

[Eduard Bloch]

#include 
Lukas wrote on Sat Feb 09, 2002 um 03:37:05PM:

> I've compiled a new Kernel (2.4.17).
> Now I've got some modules which have to be insmod at startup.
> I've put them in the /etc/modules.

Run "/etc/init.d/modutils start" manually and check the messages.

> What I miss when using debian is the boot.local
> Doesn't debain have the boot.local file ?
> Or does it have an alternate file with the same function ?

Go to /etc/init.d, copy skeleton file to "myscript" and install it with
update-rc.d.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

[Timothy Burt]

Hi, 

I'm not great at interpreting the Xserver output, but here's a couple
of things to check.

1) Have you compiled support for agpgart in the kernel?  And are you
   using the kernel-supplied radeon driver?

2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
   to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
   generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).

HTH!
Tim

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:36:53AM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:
> I just went out and got an ATI Radeon to replace my dusty old video
> card. However, X doesn't seem to like my configuration for it, and
> won't start as a result.
> 
> Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
> the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
> you spot the error?
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Screen 1"
> Device  "ATI Radeon"
> Monitor "NEC"
> DefaultDepth 24
> ...
> EndSection
> 
> 
> 
> This generates the following errors during the start up of X:
> 
> (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati, ativga
> (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI),
>   ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI),
>   ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI),
>   ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PP (PCI),
>   ATI Rage 128 Pro PR (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI),
>   ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP),
>   ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP)
> (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
>   ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP),
>   ATI Radeon VE (AGP)
> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
> (II) ATI:  Candidate "Device" section "ATI Radeon".
> (WW) ATI:  PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
> (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
> 
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Re: Problems with insmod of modules at startup

[MH]

> "Lukas" == Lukas  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Lukas> Hi.  I've got some problems with my /etc/modules.  I've
Lukas> compiled a new Kernel (2.4.17).  Now I've got some modules
Lukas> which have to be insmod at startup.  I've put them in the
Lukas> /etc/modules.  But nothing happens.  Every time I`ve to
Lukas> insmod them manually.  What's wrong with my etc/modules ?

We don't see your /etc/modules ;-)

Apart from that /etc/modules is the right place for modules loaded at
boot time.

For the parameters check /etc/modutils/ and add a file with the
corresponding values. - Then check update-modules (man ...) to
regenerate /etc/modules.conf 

Lukas> The time before dabian, I've used SuSE.  What I miss when
Lukas> using debian is the boot.local Doesn't debain have the
Lukas> boot.local file ?  Or does it have an alternate file with
Lukas> the same function ?

See /etc/init.d/ (bootmisc.sh for example) in Debian and if you add a
script: man update-rc.d , but this is not the place for the above
mentioned problem.

HTH,

MH

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keyboard layout

[Christian Schoenebeck]

Hi!
 
I've accidently changed the keyboard layout when I 
upgraded to woody. Where are the keyboard settings stored?
 
    dpkg-reconfigure base-config 
--frontend=dialog
 
doesn't work anymore.
 
Thank You,
 
Christian Schoenebeck

Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 08:06:27AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > gpg: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding
> 
> This is from a pgp.net keyserver? 
Yes! 

> If so, it has corrupted your key in the
> server because there are two subkeys. Their crap software has not been
> updated in far a while.
> 
> > pub  1024D/D5DE453D  created: 2000-09-24 expires: never  trust: f/u
> > sub  1024g/D130E875  created: 2000-09-24 expires: 2001-09-24
> > sub  1024g/ECF1020D  created: 2002-02-08 expires: 2005-02-07
> 
> Looks like it. I have this problem as well.

What is the remedy?  Any pointer to information will be nice.

I did following: (Did not work)

 1) removed 2nd sub key and changed expire date of first subkey locally
 2) host $ gpg  --send-keys D5DE453D
gpg: success sending to `wwwkeys.us.pgp.net' (status=200)

But keyserver does not remove 2nd sub key.  (Just merges it)

Osamu
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DNS help

[Joe Wise]

My DNS server started flooding the network with the same
request at a rate of several hundred per second.  Anyone know were I
could start to solve this problem?

 

I can’t see anything in the logs (daemon.log).

 

Thanks,

 

Joe

Re: SpamBouncer

[Wendell Cochran]

> > > > On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:52:03AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > >. . . I'm pretty agressive in comunicating to people that I desire
to receive mail from how to send "proper" email (eg not hTML etc.)

> > If you have boilerplate -- stock instructions for a general case -- can
> > you share?
 
> Sorry, I don't

OK, here's mine.  I refer offenders (real innocents, mostly) to

http://www.expita.com/nomime.html

-- which briefly explains the evils of H.T. Emil & MIME, & then
tells how to turn 'em off in each of 25 or so mailers.

Wendell Cochran
West Seattle

++
Unless you LOVE spam, worms, viruses, & code clutter: *Don't use cc:
(try bcc:). . . .   *Don't send -- or open -- attachments. . . . 
*Do turn MIME & HTML _off_. . . .  That's especially if you're
running Microsoft programs. . . .  Linux is safer, superior, & free.
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Re: Where'd as go?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:34:15PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> I've got a new powerpc woody system up and running, but I cant compile
> because
> ...cannot exec 'as':  No such file or directory.
> 
> Contents-powerpc tells me the assember should be part of
> devel/binutils.  I've installed binutils-2.11.92.0.12.3-6 but still no
> as.

I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
perhaps?

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Re: keyboard layout

[Gustavo Noronha Silva]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:07:30 +0100
"Christian Schoenebeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I've accidently changed the keyboard layout when I upgraded to woody. Where
> are the keyboard settings stored?
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure base-config --frontend=dialog
try console-common instead of base-config

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Re: groups

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 01:24:29AM -0600, Greg Murphy wrote:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users
> were added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see
> debian gives each user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

I don't know why it was originally adopted, but I can tell you why I
think it's a good idea. If you're working on a shared project with
another user, you'll want to make sure those files are group-writeable.
If you have all users in the same group, then it's not safe for any user
to have umask 002 by default, because everybody will be able to write to
all the files in their home directory. On the other hand, they'll have
to remember to use umask 002 when working on shared files, because
otherwise those files will only be writeable by them.

With one group per user, umask 002 is safe. All the files in your home
directory can be group-writeable, and it makes no difference - but when
you go to work on a shared project you don't have to remember to switch
the umask over.

(Another answer to this problem is "use CVS", granted, but I don't think
revision control is appropriate for each and every shared project.)

> 2. If say, I want to add two of my users to the same group, is it safe
> to add them to the already existing "users (GID=100)" group, or is
> this reserved for some program that comes with debian?

Go ahead, although personally I'd create a new group.

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sources.list question

[Patrick Kirk]

  deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
  deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
non-free

Hi all,

My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?

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Squid - Had to "recreate" the cache...

[Pedro Zorzenon Neto]

Hi Folks,

   It installed Squid in a server three months ago and I had no problem
with it since the instalation date.

   But yesterday, it stopped working well. It only sent to clients the
first 6910 bytes of the page and then stopped. Every computer in the
localnet using it as a proxy, only could browse pages with less then
this size...

   I tried /etc/init.d/squid restart

   I tried /etc/init.d/squid stop; /etc/init.d/squid start

   They did not work...

   After some hours, I could make it work again doing:

   /etc/init.d/squid stop
   rm -rf /var/spool/squid
   squid -z
   /etc/init.d/squid start

   Did squid cache got corrupted? why? what happened?

   Did anyone had the same problem?

Thanks in advance,
Pedro

Re: groups

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 01:24:29AM -0600, Greg Murphy wrote:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives each 
> user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

Same reason as RedHat :) (I actually do not know.  I like this.)

> 2. If say, I want to add two of my users to the same group, is it safe to add 
> them to the already existing "users (GID=100)" group, or is this reserved for 
> some program that comes with debian?
In "debian-policy" package, there exists a document called policy:
 (Section 10)
 Some user ids (UIDs) and group ids (GIDs) are reserved globally for
 use by certain packages.  Because some packages need to include files
 which are owned by these users or groups, or need the ids compiled
 into binaries, these ids must be used on any Debian system only for
 the purpose for which they are allocated.  This is a serious
 restriction, and we should avoid getting in the way of local
 administration policies.  In particular, many sites allocate users
 and/or local system groups starting at 100.
...
 1000-2:
  Dynamically allocated user accounts.  By default `adduser' will
  choose UIDs and GIDs for user accounts in this range, though
  `adduser.conf' may be used to modify this behavior.

I say, just change /etc/adduser.conf.  Details in "man adduser.conf"
Also check document for "base-passwd" package too.
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find

[Antonio Alberto Lobato]

Hi all!


In the command below,

# find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;

Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
?





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Re: sources.list question

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:36:28PM -0800, Patrick Kirk wrote:
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
>   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
> something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?

You are OK.  Here is result from my box(testing/unstable, read "man 
apt_preferences"
to set up  properly.  My web page has more info.)

$ apt-cache policy pine pico smbpasswd
pine:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version Table:
W: Unable to locate package pico
W: Unable to locate package smbpasswd

I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)

But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
"elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".

As for "smbpasswd",

$ dpkg -S smbpasswd
...
samba-common: /usr/bin/smbpasswd

So it is now in samba-common.

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Re: File permissions with 2.4 kernel

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 03:39:47PM +0100, Martin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Whenever I mount a filesystem (Woody) without file permissions (like 
> vfat, iso9660), all files are marked as executable -- this is quite 
> annoying because then the syntax highlighting on the console is irritating.
> 
> I think this is caused by the new kernel.  When I boot the same system 
> with an older kernel (2.2), everything is all right (no x-flag on cdroms 
> e.g.).  Booting again with kernel 2.4.16 produces the problem described 
> above ...
> 
> What can I do?  Is there a kernel patch available?

Edit /etc/fstab and set mount option, I think.  Discussed few times
recently.
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printing to samba

[Robert L. Harris]

I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
work, etc.  

I've attached the sucker to a P200 windows box and shared it out.
Windows boxes can print correctly now.  (Aka, wife can print her
research)  Is there a way using samba without filters or the like that I
can put a couple lines in my printcap to print from my debian boxes?


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Re: Squid - Had to "recreate" the cache...

[Johannes Franken]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:36:23PM -0200, Pedro Zorzenon Neto wrote:
>Did squid cache got corrupted? why? what happened?

check /var/log/squid/squid.out*

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Re: find

[Pedro Zorzenon Neto]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> 
>  # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> 
>  Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents?

Oi!

   From the find manpage:

   -exec command ;
  Execute command; true if 0 status is returned.  All
  following arguments to find are taken to  be  argu­
  ments  to  the command until an argument consisting
  of `;' is encountered.  The string `{}' is replaced
  by the current file name being processed everywhere
  it occurs in the arguments to the command, not just
  in arguments where it is alone, as in some versions
  of find.  Both of these constructions might need to
  be  escaped  (with a `\') or quoted to protect them
  from expansion by the shell.  The command  is  exe­
  cuted in the starting directory.

   Try replacing the ">" with "\>"

   Ate mais,
 Pedro

Re: Where'd as go?

[Rich Johnson]

Colin Watson wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 01:34:15PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> > I've got a new powerpc woody system up and running, but I cant compile
> > because
> > ...cannot exec 'as':  No such file or directory.
> >
> > Contents-powerpc tells me the assember should be part of
> > devel/binutils.  I've installed binutils-2.11.92.0.12.3-6 but still no
> > as.
>
> I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> perhaps?

I must be missing something here:

-  $PATH looks fine
-  /usr/bin/as does not exist.
-  dpkg -S /usr/bin/asreports:  "dpkg: /usr/bin/as not found"
-  dpkg -L binutils   lists no executables, only doc, man and locale
entries--see below.
-  I've installed/uninstalled, purged, removed and manually deleted and
refetched the binutils...deb--all with the same result.

Any help would be appreciated.


dpkg -L binutils reports:
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/binutils
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gas/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/TEST
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/bbconv.pl
/usr/share/doc/binutils/gprof/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ld/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/PORTING
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/TODO
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/bfd/ChangeLog.linux.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/NEWS.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ChangeLog.linux
/usr/share/doc/binutils/copyright
/usr/share/doc/binutils/ChangeLog.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/test-summary.gz
/usr/share/doc/binutils/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/info
/usr/share/man
/usr/share/man/man1
/usr/share/man/man1/ar.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/dlltool.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nlmconv.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/nm.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/objcopy.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/objdump.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/ranlib.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/readelf.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/size.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/strings.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/strip.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/windres.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/c++filt.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/as.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/ld.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gasp.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/addr2line.1.gz
/usr/share/man/man1/gprof.1.gz
/usr/share/locale
/usr/share/locale/fr
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/bfd.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/opcodes.mo
/usr/share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/binutils.mo

Re: sources.list question

[Patrick Kirk]

[snip]

> I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
> removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
> source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)
> 
> But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
> "elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".
> 
so what is non-free for if it doesn't cover things like pine?  

Nano is fine btw - I'm just asking out of curiosity now.
> 

Re: printing to samba

[ben]

On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> work, etc.
>

have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
takes to investigate.

Re: find

[Johannes Franken]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents

That's proper behavior.

The "> {}" goes to your shell (creating that file), so the arguments
left for find are: "/var/log -type f -exec echo -n"
(yet another implementation of the NOP command).

Try 
echo >/tmp/blankfile && find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
instead.

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Re: printing to samba

[dman]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 09:49:00AM -0800, ben wrote:
| On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
| > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
| > work, etc.
| 
| have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
| takes to investigate.

Definitely!  It is easy to setup the ready-made "drivers" (or filters,
or whatever you want to call it) to print directly to the printer, or
to use a shared-via-samba printer or to share a printer to a windows
box.

-D

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Re: printing to samba

[Robert L. Harris]

On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
printer.

Thus spake ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> > work, etc.
> >
> 
> have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time it 
> takes to investigate.
> 
> 
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Re: find

[Antonio Alberto Lobato]

Pedro Zorzenon Neto wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> >
> >  # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> >
> >  Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents?
>
> Oi!
>
>From the find manpage:
>
>-exec command ;
>   Execute command; true if 0 status is returned.  All
>   following arguments to find are taken to  be  argu­
>   ments  to  the command until an argument consisting
>   of `;' is encountered.  The string `{}' is replaced
>   by the current file name being processed everywhere
>   it occurs in the arguments to the command, not just
>   in arguments where it is alone, as in some versions
>   of find.  Both of these constructions might need to
>   be  escaped  (with a `\') or quoted to protect them
>   from expansion by the shell.  The command  is  exe­
>   cuted in the starting directory.
>
>Try replacing the ">" with "\>"
>
>Ate mais,
>  Pedro

Thanks, but...
It does not work. I already had tried.





Tom

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Re: groups

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Greg Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives each 
> user his/her own group.
> 
> 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 

ISTR that it was discussed way back... Try searching old debian-devel 
archives maybe?

Basically, Unix ugo permissions suck -- they were OK in 1975 when
computers weren't fast enough to support better security mechanisms,
but in 2002 they're simly not fine-grained enough.

In slack (all users belong to us^W the same group), if your files 
are group-readable, every user can read them. In debian they can't,
you have to add people to your group if you want them to read your
files => more fine-grained control.

The downside is that number of groups a user can belong to is 
limited (32 by default, IIRC), and with debian's tendency to have 
a separate group for everything (audio, ppp, cdrom, ...) it's very 
easy to run out.

Dima
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Sendmail access.db

[John Cichy]

Hello,

I'm at it again. I am currently trying to convert my mailserver to 
debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can RELAY. 
During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the access file or 
access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch on?

TIA
John

Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> What is the remedy?  Any pointer to information will be nice.

There is none. One could get the keyserver software, and fix it (good luck,
that thing is NOT easy to grok), then waste a few days of machine cicles
purging all screwed up keys from the keyring...   And you would still risk
that people would ignore all your hard work, I suppose.

I gave up the entire pgp.net keyserver system, and since I loathe the
non-DFSG-compliant keyserver.net crap, I've been using keyring.debian.org as
the only keyserver where people can get a proper copy of my key (other than
asking me for it directly, or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: find

[Antonio Alberto Lobato]

Johannes Franken wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 02:48:36PM -0200, Antonio Alberto Lobato wrote:
> > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
>
> That's proper behavior.
>
> The "> {}" goes to your shell (creating that file), so the arguments
> left for find are: "/var/log -type f -exec echo -n"
> (yet another implementation of the NOP command).
>
> Try
> echo >/tmp/blankfile && find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> instead.

But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.






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Re: printing to samba

[ben]

On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:54 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
> printer.
>
'apt-get install cupsys' did it for me.

btw, don't cc to my address. if i weren't reading the list, i wouldn't be 
writing to it, either.

Re: Networking - in theory

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Curtis Vaughan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> Ok, a theoretical question.
> 
> If I wish to network linux computers along with Windows computers, it seems 
> that I have to have Samba server on each Linux workstation.
> 
> Is this correct?
> 
> Originally, it was my understanding that Samba server was installed only a 
> seperate box that was basically a gateway between, what we might call 2 
> 'networks'.

Not really. SMB is application-layer protocol for sharing files and
printers, like NFS (files) or IPP (printers). All these can happily
coexist on the same network.

It's client-server protocol, so you need a samba server on the box
that publishes samba shares, and samba client on the box that wants
to access them. The server is built into winders, so if you want to
access windows shares from a linux box, you need samba client on the
linux box. If you want to let windows boxen to access files/printers 
on a linux box, you need samba server on the linux box.

You can install samba server on every linux machine you want to get 
to from windoze. Or you can set up one "samba gateway" that mounts
linux filesystems via e.g. NFS, and exports them via SMB. Ditto with
printers. 

Dima
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Re: Alien/RPM keeps trying to kill KDE. Help?

[Dimitri Maziuk]

* Phil Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:21:24PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:03:09PM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote:
> > > BUT
> > > 
> > > - librpm4 conflicts with librpm0, and
> > > 
> > > - something called "kpackage" depends on librpm0
> > 
> > This will hopefully be fixed very soon, since rpm had failed to build on
> > m68k but recently compiled correctly.
> 
> It's now been fixed.  Sweet.
> 
> 
> > > I don't use kpackage, but I can't remove it, because
> > > 
> > > - kde depends on kpackage
> > > 
> > > So anytime I try to do anything with 'rpm' dselect/apt-get attempts to
> > > remove the entire KDE suite.
> > 
> > Are you sure? The package kde itself is only a metapackage, removing it
> > would not cause any other kde applications to be removed.

Heh. I knew there was a reason I never used meta-packages, and
dropped dselect the moment aptitude was released.

FWIW, this does not happen with aptitude/kpackage and individual 
KDE packages selected (rather than KDE task package).

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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

[Dan Owens]

On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:15 am, Timothy Burt wrote:

>
> 2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
>to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
>generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).
>

Would you please give the exact command you have in mind?  Configuring 
xfree86 is one of the worst things you need to do in Linux (in my opinion, of 
course).

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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

[csj]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 00:36:53 -0800
Aaron Brashears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just went out and got an ATI Radeon to replace my dusty old video
> card. However, X doesn't seem to like my configuration for it, and
> won't start as a result.
> 
> Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
> the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
> you spot the error?
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier  "Screen 1"
> Device  "ATI Radeon"
> Monitor "NEC"
> DefaultDepth 24
> ...
> EndSection
> 

I let Branden take care of it ;-). The installation automagic mostly
works for me. Please note, however, that I'm using the Radeon VE. Not
all Radeons appear to be supported under x4.1.

FWIW here's the corresponding portion (extract) from my X config:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "MyRadeon"
Driver  "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "MyMonitor"
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-85
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "MyRadeon"
Monitor "MyMonitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection

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Re: groups

[Michel Loos]

Em Sáb, 2002-02-09 às 15:57, Dimitri Maziuk escreveu:
> * Greg Murphy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > I recently switched from slackware to debian. Under slack, when users were 
> > added they were defaultly added to the group "users". I see debian gives 
> > each 
> > user his/her own group.
> > 
> > 1. Why did debian adopt this method? 
> 
> ISTR that it was discussed way back... Try searching old debian-devel 
> archives maybe?
> 
> Basically, Unix ugo permissions suck -- they were OK in 1975 when
> computers weren't fast enough to support better security mechanisms,
> but in 2002 they're simly not fine-grained enough.
> 

Back to multics where the access control was really fine-grained

Michel.

Re: ati radeon XF86Config

[ben]

On Saturday 09 February 2002 10:31 am, Dan Owens wrote:
> On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:15 am, Timothy Burt wrote:
> > 2) Did you generate the config file by hand?  If not, you could try
> >to let X configure itself, with the -configure option (which will
> >generate an XF86Config-4 file for you).
>
> Would you please give the exact command you have in mind?  Configuring
> xfree86 is one of the worst things you need to do in Linux (in my opinion,
> of course).

this kind of begs the question--how are you creating the config file? also, i 
noticed in another post that your monitor is an nec. is it a multisync 
monitor? if so you should set up your config to accommodate that. check 
/var/log/XFree86.0.log--it will provide some clues about why x won't run.

Problem pinging gateway

[Jon Hughes]

I have a new system that I'm setting up Debian 2.2 on.
 It's a dual boot and i have windows on the other 
side which at the moment recognizes the NIC, and can
surf the net without a problem.

The linux side appears to recognize the NIC, assigns
the IP and so forth. Netstat looks right. THe problem
is I can't even ping the gateway. I'm unsure what I'm
missing (may be something simple) so I'm fishing for
ideas.  (note: I'm behind a router, the other two
machines I have run debian and both are able to get
out).

ifconfig 
eth0  Link encap: Ethernet  HWAddr :mac address here>
inet addr: 192.168.0.3  Bcast: 192.168.0.255  Mask:
255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric: 1
RX Packets and TX packets change when i try to ping or
what not)
Collisions: 0  txqueuelen: 100
Interupt 10 Base address: 0xa800

lo Link encap: Local loopback
inet addr: 127.0.0.1 mask 255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK Running MTU: 3924 metrix:1


netstat -rn
DestGW  Genmask Flags   MSS Win irtt Iface
192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0

(sorry about the formating there)
This netstat -rn looks similar to the netstat -rn on
another machine.

The computer does seem to recognize the network card
on bootup, and I can ping myself. I am unable to ping
outside anything else.

Any help would be much appreciated, this is pretty
much the last step before I can get this computer into
production and it's annoying as heck:)

Thanks
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Re: Where'd as go?

[Colin Watson]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:43:30PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> Colin Watson wrote:
> > I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> > contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> > perhaps?
> 
> I must be missing something here:
> 
> -  $PATH looks fine
> -  /usr/bin/as does not exist.

That's really very odd. Could you have a look at the output of 'dpkg -c
/var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb' and see
if it includes /usr/bin/as? If so, dpkg is screwing up - I'm not quite
sure how yet though.

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Re: Problem pinging gateway

[Mike Dresser]

> netstat -rn
> Dest  GW  Genmask Flags   MSS Win irtt Iface
> 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
> 0.0.0.0   192.168.0.0.1   0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0

Is that 192.168.0.0.1 a typo?

mike

Re: W32/Myparty

[Brian Nelson]

Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> 
> > > where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i welcome
> > > replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all. unless someone
> > > indicates that they want you to cc: to their address, have some
> > > manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i do not want 
> > > you to
> > > cc: to may address, don't do it again.
> >
> > How's this you fucking bitch?
> 
> Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
> either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.

No, you use a "Mail-Copies-To: never" or "Mail-Copies-To: nobody" header
and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

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Re: Building custom kernel based off stock debian kernel

[Ulrich Eckhardt]

On Thursday 07 February 2002 22:49, Nick Jennings wrote:
>  *Please CC me in the response as I am not subscribed to debian-user*
>
> Hello.
>
>  I'd like to make a slight customization to the debian kernel. I do not
>  understand the debian packing scheme for getting the complete source
>  to the DEBIAN linux kernel (i.e. all patches applied and the .config
>  that is used for the debian kernel-images).
>
I just wrote some notes about the Debian way to build a kernel in the debian 
wiki at http://wiki.debian.net , maybe they are useful to you. Elxe, I would 
very much be interested in feedback.

cheers Uli

Re: Problem pinging gateway

[Jon Hughes]

whoops, yes, that is. it's just 192.168.0.1

my bad:)  fustrating day


--- Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > netstat -rn
> > Dest GW  Genmask Flags MSS Win irtt Iface
> > 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U  0 0 eth0
> > 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 YG 0 0 0 eth0
> 
> Is that 192.168.0.0.1 a typo?
> 
> mike
> 

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How can I install galeon?

[stan]

I've got a machien runing mostly woody packages, with
a few unstable packages thrown in. When I look in dselect,
I see galeon, yet when I try to isntall it, dslect complains
about the version of Mozilla, and one library.

How can I install galeon?

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Re: Games on Linux?

[Preben Randhol]

D & E Radel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/02/2002 (12:53) :
> Sad to hear about Loki Game's demise. What good free/GPL 3D games are there
> for Linux, now that they are gone. Am I gonna be stuck with tuxracer? No
> disrespect
> for ol' tuxracer intended. :-)

What's wrong with IF games :-) ? 
   
   ftp://www.gmd.de/if-archive/games/

apt-get install xzip

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Re: xterm resource settings and woody

[Cameron Kerr]

On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, CaT wrote:

>Just did an upgrade of my woody setup and found my xterm's default
>resource settings changed. Most annoying. Anyhow... in trying to change

Hmm, so /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm* mustn't be marked as a conf file
(perhaps).

>Anyhow... How can I do this? Can anyone help? The present settings hurt
>my eyes, give me an xterm that's 66 chars wide (when it was 80 before) a
>visual bell which is excessively annoying and a scrollbar that is useless
>to me due to my being happy in using the kboard to get around. Help...

Well thats not Debian defaults!

Personal settings should be made in your ~/.Xresources or ~/.Xdefaults
file. Once you've changed them, you can run xrdb -override ~/.Xresources,
and start a new xterm.

Personally, I also stick in my ~/.bashrc this,

if [ $TERM = "xterm" ]; then
TERM=xterm-color
fi

Hope this helps.
Cameron Kerr
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Re: video card

[Gerard Robin]

On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 11:46:34PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 10:56:52PM +, Gerard Robin wrote:
..
> > My vendor suggest me to use the video card ATI expert 2000
> > with linux (my dist is potato 2.2r2 with xfree 3 )
..
> I found ATI to be the best supported cards in X (for open source drivers
> that is). I have ATI Radeon 64M DDR and I have great 3D performance. Better
> than under Windows 2000 and onward. At work, I have 2 Debian workstations
> with older ATI cards. One is Winboard and the other Rage 64 or something.
> Both work great but no 3D accel. of course :)
> 
> A friend of mine has NVideo GeForce 2 MX card and it seems to run fine with
> NVidia's drivers.  But the performance is a bit slower than with Radeon. But
> NVidia seems to be a good choice for.

Thanks all for your advices.
I find that it is important to choose the best card, but if I want run
linux, I have to choose the best card which have a good driver for linux  
and also its price don't exceed my purse :-)
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Re: GPG: key D5DE453D: invalid subkey binding

[Osamu Aoki]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:04:52PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Feb 2002, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > What is the remedy?  Any pointer to information will be nice.
> 
> There is none.
Sad :( ...
> I gave up the entire pgp.net keyserver system, and since I loathe the
> non-DFSG-compliant keyserver.net crap, I've been using keyring.debian.org as
> the only keyserver where people can get a proper copy of my key (other than
> asking me for it directly, or finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]).

"keyserver.net" used to be usable but it started causing problem thus I
stopped using it a while ago.  That is not my option too.

If this is true, /usr/share/gnupg/option.skel must be modified.  It
said:

# GnuPG can import a key from a HKP keyerver if one is missing
# for certain operations. Is you set this option to a keyserver
# you will be asked in such a case whether GnuPG should try to
# import the key from that server (server do syncronize with each
# other and DNS Round-Robin may give you a random server each time).
# Use "host -l pgp.net | grep www" to figure out a keyserver.

There should be some warning of the bugs on those pgp.net keyservers.

Also, it looks like I can "send" my key to "keyring.debian.org" but I can
not "recv".  Maybe I have to wait CRON but...  (I am not a Debian
developer)


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Re: W32/Myparty

[ben]

On Saturday 09 February 2002 11:45 am, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Jeremy Gaddis wrote:
> > > > where did you extract from any part of my post to the list that i
> > > > welcome replies to my address? post it to the list, or not at all.
> > > > unless someone indicates that they want you to cc: to their address,
> > > > have some manners--don't do it. especially, now that you know that i
> > > > do not want you to cc: to may address, don't do it again.
> > >
> > > How's this you fucking bitch?
> >
> > Both of you, stop being so rude.  Ben, if you don't want private email,
> > either put a disclaimer on your mail or don't subscribe to lists.
>
> No, you use a "Mail-Copies-To: never" or "Mail-Copies-To: nobody" header
> and then any halfway decent mail client will honor that.  If it doesn't,
> then it shouldn't be used to reply to mailing lists.

alright. in order to close this, let me explain the circumstances around it. 
normally, if someone responds to me offlist, whether by cc'ing a list 
response or otherwise, if i'm willing to carry on the discussion off list, i 
do. if i'm not, i generally send a polite response asking them to keep it on 
the list and not cc my address. given the nature of the communication above 
with mr. gaddis, the response he got was, admittedly, not as polite as usual, 
and was an indulgence on my part. however, that response was sent to his 
private address in response to a reply sent to mine. i did not post it to the 
list as, to my mind, it had, at least until gaddis posted it here, nothing to 
do with the business of the list. i hope that's clear to those who've taken 
the time to offer solutions as to how i should deal with cc'ed list postings. 
to give gaddis credit, he did honor the request, and hasn't cc'ed me since 
then. as for what i should do with headers or disclaimers, i think that the 
previous method of a polite response requesting not to be cc'ed actually 
works, since, on occasion, it's beneficial to take a discussion offlist.

thanks for the helpful suggestions.

Re: Problem pinging gateway

[Johannes Franken]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 11:05:13AM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote:
> The linux side appears to recognize the NIC, assigns
> the IP and so forth. Netstat looks right. THe problem
> is I can't even ping the gateway. 

You might have a broken ipchains ruleset.
What do "ipchains -L -n" and "tcpdump -n & ping 192.168.0.1" say?

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Re: How can I install galeon?

[Brian Clark]

* stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 14:49]:

> How can I install galeon?

I change my sources.list to point to unstable, then apt-get update, then
apt-get -u install galeon. I haven't had any problems what so ever.

Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing when you're
done. ;-)

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Re: How can I install galeon?

[J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 15:47:05 -0500, Brian Clark wrote:
> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing when you're done.

Or create an /etc/apt/preferences containing
Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
in which case you can leave the "unstable" entries in sources.list, keep
your system at "testing" and use "apt-get -t unstable foo" in case you
really want a package from "unstable".

HTH,
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Re: find

[Johannes Franken]

> > > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
> > Try find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.

You're right. What about
echo echo -n \> \$1 /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

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Re: How can I install galeon?

[Mario Vukelic]

On Sat, 2002-02-09 at 20:49, stan wrote:
> I've got a machien runing mostly woody packages, with
> a few unstable packages thrown in. When I look in dselect,
> I see galeon, yet when I try to isntall it, dslect complains
> about the version of Mozilla, and one library.
> 
> How can I install galeon?

Add deb lines lines for sid to sources.list. Then create a file
/etc/apt/preferences with this content (see man apt_preferences for what
this does or see here http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/1/mail#1):


package:*
Pin: release a=testing
Pin Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin Priority: 600

Then apt-get update; apt-get -t unstable install galeon (this means for
this operation target the unstable dist)

Alternatively you can follow this method:
http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/4/mail#1


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Re: sources.list question

[Wayne Topa]

Patrick Kirk([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
>   deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib
> non-free
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> My sources list is above.  I can't find pine, pico or smbpasswd.  Is there
> something essential I messed up when I changed from stable to woody?
> 

Someone does have pine packages available, search the archives.
Pico, I don't know.

dpkg -S smbpasswd
samba: /usr/sbin/mksmbpasswd
samba-common: /usr/bin/smbpasswd


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[jfranken@jfranken.de: Re: find]

[Johannes Franken]

Tom,

sorry for the typo. should be
echo echo -n \> \$1 > /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

another way to do it would be
find /var/log -type -f -exec cp /dev/null {} \;

HTH
- Forwarded message from Johannes Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 21:58:19 +0100
From: Johannes Franken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Antonio Alberto Lobato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: find

> > > # find /var/log -type f -exec echo -n > {} \;
> > > Why find create a file called "{}", instead to erase files contents
> > Try find /var/log -type f -exec cp /tmp/blankfile {} \;
> But the files permissions/owner/group would be changed.

You're right. What about
echo echo -n \> \$1 /tmp/truncate &&
find /var/log -type f -exec sh /tmp/truncate {} \;

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Re: ati radeon XF86Config

[Adam Majer]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:36:53AM -0800, Aaron Brashears wrote:

> Can anyone supply a copy of their working XF86Config-4 they use with
> the ATI Radeon? Here's a few choice lines from my configuration - can
> you spot the error?
> 
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> #VideoRam65536
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
> EndSection

This look about right. It should go.. Besides this I have the following
in my XF86Config-4..

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xie"
Load"wacom"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
MOde0666
EndSection

But your setup should work??

What Radeon are you talking about?? 7500 is supported by X 4.2.0 and 8500 is not
3D accelerated. Your setup should work with anything before 7500 [which is 
almost
exactly the same as regular one - same GPU].

- Adam

Re: Games on Linux?

[Adam Majer]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 05:27:16AM -0800, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
> 
> > Did loki put all their games up there for free or something?
> 
> No, but thier binaries were publically avalible.  You'll have to buy the
> Windows version to get the data files to complete the set.

I think you could buy Linux only version that came with the data files :)
That's how they made money AFAIK and not by releasing free ports.

- Adam

Re: How can I install galeon?

[MH]

> "Brian" == Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brian> * stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 14:49]:
>> How can I install galeon?

Brian> I change my sources.list to point to unstable, then apt-get
Brian> update, then apt-get -u install galeon. I haven't had any
Brian> problems what so ever.

Brian> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing
Brian> when you're done. ;-)

There are some more elegant ways in apt now.

Check man apt-get (-t)  and man apt_preferences, though I'm not using
this options (unstable forever ;-) 
 
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Re: sources.list question

[Adam Majer]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 05:51:17PM -0800, Patrick Kirk wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> > I remember pine is only available as source due to licensing issue and
> > removed from binary distribution.  If I were desparate, I might download
> > source package and compile.  (Which I believe comes with pico.)
> > 
> > But, I will recommend you to move to "mutt" if you used "pine" or 
> > "elm".  As for "pico", install "nano".
> > 
> so what is non-free for if it doesn't cover things like pine?  
> 
> Nano is fine btw - I'm just asking out of curiosity now.

Sometime ago there was a feverish discussion why pine can't be in 
non-free as binary. It turns out that the license of pine prohibits
distribution of a binary that was produced as a result of changing 
the source code. For a debian package to exist, we must add
at least /debian directory in the source together with all the 
dependencies in there. This is a change to the source code. So we 
can't distribute the binary...

You can get the sources, go into the pine
source directory, type "debian/rules binary" and you'll end
up with .deb of pico and pine in the parent directory.

IMO, it's stupid for pine to have a license like that but
that's life. I don't use it any more. I find mutt to have
more features I like :)

Regards,
Adam

Re: How can I install galeon?

[Brian Clark]

* MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 16:23]:

[...]

> Brian> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing
> Brian> when you're done. ;-)

> There are some more elegant ways in apt now.

> Check man apt-get (-t) and man apt_preferences, though I'm not using
> this options (unstable forever ;-)

Ah, Ray just pointed that out also. That's a pretty nice feature, and it
looks like I have some reading to do. :-)

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Re: Sendmail access.db

[Igor Mozetic]

> debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can RELAY.
> During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the access file or
> access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch on?

I'm running potato sendmail 8.9.3-23.
You add a line into sendmail.mc:

FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -o /etc/mail/access')dnl

and in access something like:

YOUR.DOMAIN RELAY
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   REJECT

-Igor Mozetic

unsubscribe

[James Harvey]

On 2/9/02 2:06 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can't un/install xdm/gdm/wdm

[Kent West]

I've gotten into a situation on Woody where I can not install nor 
uninstall xdm or gdm or wdm. I can install other things.

Here's some relevant output:

fafsa-01:~# apt-get install xdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, xdm is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
3 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Setting up gdm (2.2.5.3-2) ...
dpkg: error processing gdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Setting up wdm (1.20-13) ...
dpkg: error processing wdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Setting up xdm (4.1.0-13) ...
dpkg: error processing xdm (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gdm
 wdm
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
fafsa-01:~#


The same type thing happens with gdm and wdm.

Here's more:

fafsa-01:~# apt-get remove xdm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xdm
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
3 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 664kB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 26154 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing xdm ...
dpkg: error processing xdm (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 10
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 10
Errors were encountered while processing:
 xdm
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
fafsa-01:~#



And more:


fafsa-01:~# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager

There is only 1 program which provides x-session-manager
(/usr/bin/gdm). Nothing to configure.


fafsa-01:~# /etc/init.d/gdm start
Not starting GNOME Display Manager (gdm); it is not the default display 
manager.fafsa-01:~#


Can anyone help me out here?

Thanks!

Kent

Re: sftp not connecting/ssh connects

[Jeff]

Lance Hoffmeyer, 2002-Feb-08 16:16 -0600:
> What have people done in order to get sftp to connect to a remote host?
> The FAQ mentions something about an interactive mode on the shell but
> I am not sure what this means?  My .bashrc is basic with color-dir set
> and a few aliases.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Lance

AFAIK, sftp connects just like ssh and has the same functionality
as ftp once connected.  If you know the name and path of the
file(s) you which up/download, you can use scp.

$ sftp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
password: ***
sftp> 

...now use normal ftp commands.

Make sure you can connect using ssh first.

jc

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Can't dpkg-reconfigure ssh

[Kent West]

When I run "dpkg-reconfigure ssh", I just get dropped back to a command 
prompt. No questions; no disk thrashing; no bells and whistles.

I originally told sshd to not run; now I want it to run. I know I can 
just delete the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run, but I'd rather do it 
the "correct" way.

Thanks!

Kent

Re: Sendmail access.db

[John Cichy]

Thanks for the response, but when I put this in the sendmail.mc and run 
either make or sendmailconfig it gives the following error:

***WARNING: Missing -T in argument of FEATURE(`access_db', hash -o 
/etc/mail/access)

It does accept the mail for delivery, but does anyone know what this warning 
is about?

TIA,
John

On Saturday 09 February 2002 16:30, Igor Mozetic wrote:
> > debian(woody). All works except using the access.db to decide who can
> > RELAY. During installation and setup with dselect no mention of the
> > access file or access.db is made. Can someone help me to turn this switch
> > on?
>
> I'm running potato sendmail 8.9.3-23.
> You add a line into sendmail.mc:
>
> FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -o /etc/mail/access')dnl
>
> and in access something like:
>
> YOUR.DOMAIN RELAY
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   REJECT
>
> -Igor Mozetic

Re: sources.list question

[Patrick Kirk]

Interesting...I use vi on the server but the machine I'm configuring has a
non-techie owner so needed somthing that offered at least a clue as to how
to exit without rebooting the machine ( and yes - that's how he exitted vi
first time!)

Nano is fine.  I just wanted the ^X stuff on the bottom to keep him from
rebooting.

Thanks all.  Now for my next question...

Re: sftp not connecting/ssh connects

[Vineet Kumar]

* Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020208 14:58]:
> What have people done in order to get sftp to connect to a remote host?
> The FAQ mentions something about an interactive mode on the shell but
> I am not sure what this means?  My .bashrc is basic with color-dir set
> and a few aliases.  Any suggestions?

Check the remote /etc/ssh/sshd_config, and make sure you have a line
that says

Subsystem   sftp/usr/lib/sftp-server

Also, look for messages in the log on the remote server. If the
subsystem line isn't there, it should say something about a request for
an unavailable subsystem "sftp".

good times,
Vineet

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Backup of debian

[Jens Gecius]

Hi folks,

I'd like to get some input on an idea I had to backup a pure debian
system.

I like my backups on cd-r, so my current system backup eats roughly 10
cd-r. For me, this seems a little too much, because all packages are
available via the internet, nowadays pretty fast with dsl/cable.

So, I thought to take the information about the running system from
the file /var/lib/dpkg/status, and just backing up those files
deviating from the packages default-configs (the full files, no
diffs). Additionally, /home gets backed up, perhaps some exclusions,
but no binaries except those needed to make the cd bootable to restore
the system via  internet. Also, it might be possible to backup any
/usr/local stuff (which by definition is not debian). Details to be
discussed. 

I know a restore would probably cost more time than a backup on a tape
or a bunch of cds, but it would have the benefit of having a small
footprint, being pretty fast and IMHO more suitable for a home
environment.

Any ideas? Input? Help? What do you guys think might be an even better
idea for a backup with such requirements (fast, small, home-env)?

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Re: Can't dpkg-reconfigure ssh

[Adam Majer]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 04:19:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> When I run "dpkg-reconfigure ssh", I just get dropped back to a command 
> prompt. No questions; no disk thrashing; no bells and whistles.
> 
> I originally told sshd to not run; now I want it to run. I know I can 
> just delete the file /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run, but I'd rather do it 
> the "correct" way.

What release? It works in Sid... Can you reconfigure other packages?

- Adam

Re: printing to samba

[Patrick Kirk]

I got it working using the web interface of CUPS under Lynx.  Took about 4
attempts and some mild swearing but after 5 years of using Linux its the
first time I got it to print ;-)

Would you mind posting what you've put in smb.conf to share it?

Patrick

- Original Message -
From: "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Debian Users" 
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: printing to samba


>
>
> On a sid system, which package?  I'm just tired of fighting this friggin
> printer.
>
> Thus spake ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > On Saturday 09 February 2002 09:12 am, Robert L. Harris wrote:
> > > I've given up on getting my hp882c to print under linux.  Filters dont
> > > work, etc.
> > >
> >
> > have you tried installing cups? if not, it's definitely worth the time
it
> > takes to investigate.
> >
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Re: Backup of debian

[Al Nikolov]

On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 06:05:19PM -0500, Jens Gecius wrote:
> 
> So, I thought to take the information about the running system from
> the file /var/lib/dpkg/status, and just backing up those files
> deviating from the packages default-configs (the full files, no
> diffs). Additionally, /home gets backed up, perhaps some exclusions,

IMHO, the debian policy permits a simplest option: just do a backup of /etc 
with following symlinks.

Re: Backup of debian

[Alvin Oga]

hi ya jens

lots of free backup scripts that also writes to cdr

http://www.Linux-Backup.net/app.gwif.html

have fun linuxing
alvin

- other way is to save your /etc  especially sources.list
  and have a way to boot your vigin machine and it can 
  rebuild itself...again and use your saved /etc to restore
  your config ( assuming oyu put every config thingie into /etc )

- maybe /usr/local too if you do lots of manual installs

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Jens Gecius wrote:


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Re: Where'd as go?

[Rich Johnson]

Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 09, 2002 at 12:43:30PM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
> > Colin Watson wrote:
> > > I've checked binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb, and it does indeed
> > > contain /usr/bin/as. This wouldn't be something screwing up $PATH,
> > > perhaps?
> >
> > I must be missing something here:
> >
> > -  $PATH looks fine
> > -  /usr/bin/as does not exist.
>
> That's really very odd. Could you have a look at the output of 'dpkg -c
> /var/cache/apt/archives/binutils_2.11.92.0.12.3-6_powerpc.deb' and see
> if it includes /usr/bin/as? If so, dpkg is screwing up - I'm not quite
> sure how yet though.
>

AHA!  dpkg -c reports:

tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolete base-64 headers
...and so on.

Thanks for the pointer.  Apparently the .deb was corrupted somewhere along the
line.It's certainly confusing (any maybe a bug?) that dpkg -L doesn't report
problems with the .deb.

I downloaded another copy--one which passes the 'dpkg -c' test and installed
properly.

Thanks again,
--rich

let the coding begin.

Re: Games on Linux?

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002, Adam Majer wrote:

> I think you could buy Linux only version that came with the data files :)

Yeah, back when Loki existed.

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[OT] what ports do quake3 use?

[Peter Jay Salzman]

hi there,

i want to run a quake3 server from behind a firewall.

what ports do i need to open up and forward in order to run a quake 3
server?

pete

2 questions

[a]

1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck warns it is
dangerous to check it.

2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after a period
of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the difference? how to make
the LED blinks in X?

Re: 2 questions

[nate]

> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck
> warns it is dangerous to check it.

to do it without rebooting:
init 1
mount / -o remount,ro
e2fsck /dev/hda3
mount / -o remount,rw
init 2

if you have other partitions mounted you have to unmount them
first (umount /mountpoint)

>
> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after
> a period of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the
> difference? how to make the LED blinks in X?

not sure, i don't trust APM, i rather turn my monitor off
with the switch then trust APM to do it for me.

nate

Re: fsck'ing a rw-mounted partition and display power management in X (was: 2 questions)

[Elizabeth Barham]

"a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.how to fsck /dev/hda3 which is root? it's mounted rw, and fsck warns it is
> dangerous to check it.

You need to remount it read-only (ro). See mount(8) for details:

mount /dev/hda3 -o remount,ro

e2fsck /dev/hda3

mount /dev/hda3 -o remount,rw

> 2.in MS-Windows, the monitor is turned down (the LED blinks) after a period
> of in-activity. In X, it just blanks. what is the difference? how to make
> the LED blinks in X?

Consider adding the line: option "dpms" to your XF86Config file
in the monitor section. Example:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "acer aspire 55s"
HorizSync   30-54
VertRefresh 50-110
option "dpms"
EndSection

Elizabeth