Re: apt-get via firewall
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:49:02PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Not necessarily: an authenticating proxy http firewall may pose > problems. I bet you are right. (I thought about it, too. I was thinking ftp while writing it.) Is there any way to know whether proxi exit or not? Just curious. Osamu -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pc/ Cupertino, CA USA +
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
To quote MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:42:15PM -0800): # > $ startx & exit # > # > ...which is what I use (do what I mean, not what I say). I can assure # > you there are no console sessions on this box. # # this will kill my X immediately and log off. the only way i got it to # work is by startx, ctrl-alt-f1, suspending, and then exiting. # obviously though, X remained suspended... # # not even startx & sleep 10 && exit works. Try 'nohup startx > /dev/null 2>&1 & exit', and replace /dev/null with a logfile of your choice. If you omit it, "nohup.out" will be used instead. Of course, you can keep it as /dev/null , but that might make debugging more difficult ;) I'd also like to point out that [G,X,K,W]DM is built for this sort of thing ... David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Yes, launching X from a console w/o securing (or exiting) the console > session is a security hole. However, securing or exiting the console > session is trivial. > I had just taken xlock off yesterday and i read this thread first thing this morning. Good timing. The problem was that I didn't see any point in having it on if anyone could pres ctrl-alt-bs and at the console. So if I want a secure X environment, what are my choices? 1. XDM? 2. Secure the console before? You mention above it being trivial. How can one do it? Thanks. Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
Mouse goes nuts in X
Hi, As soon as I start X the mouse looks fine, sitting in the middle of the screen. The moment I move it the cursor jumps to the top left and other than bouncing around and jumping back to the corner I can't get it to do anything. I have already tried different mice(PS2) wheel mouse and a optical wheel mouse. I tried X config also. Any Ideas? Thanks John McPeek
Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel
oh, sorry -- i thought you were talking about quake 3. do yourself a favor. don't compile the original quake source. there's a project quakeforge which is a group of people doing a re-write of quake, similar to how prboom and doom legacy are working with the original doom code. if you want to play original quake, quakeforge is the way to go. i'll bet your problem below will disappear with the modernized quakeforge code. pete On Sat 03 Mar 01, 12:15 AM, Michael P. Soulier said: > > Cool. Are there instructions anywhere on getting Quake working? I'm going > through the howto, but I'm missing libraries apparently: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] quake]$ ldd quake.x11 > libm.so.5 => not found > libX11.so.6 => not found > libXext.so.6 => not found > libc.so.5 => not found > > I have the first and last by different names so I can fix those with > symlinks. I don't have the X11 and Xext modules. They're apparently provided > by the xlibg6-dev package, but apt-get won't let me install it. > > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > xlib6g-dev: Depends: xlib6g (>= 3.3.2.3a-8) but it is not going to be > installed > > which is crap since I have > > ii xlib6g 4.0.2-1pseudopackage providing X libraries > > installed. > > Help? > > Mike > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:00:24PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > > it's automatically set up to use 3D acceleration. > > > > pete > > > > On Fri 02 Mar 01, 11:27 PM, Michael P. Soulier said: > > > Hey people. I recently installed XFree86 4.0 and am using the tdfx > > > driver for my Voodoo 3. Is it automatically set up to use 3D accel, or > > > do I still have to work to do if I want to play Quake? > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs > > > fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to > > > be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting > > > under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > > -- > Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily > a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could > be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- "...and here is fortress ovum being stormed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] millions of tiny warriors..."www.dirac.org/p -- Robert "Schweitzer" Picardo pgpGmEBXYODDn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mouse goes nuts in X
do you have gpm already running? what kind of mouse? peter On Sat 03 Mar 01, 2:28 AM, John McPeek said: > Hi, > As soon as I start X the mouse looks fine, sitting in the middle of the > screen. The moment I move it the cursor jumps to the top left and other than > bouncing around and jumping back to the corner I can't get it to do > anything. I have already tried different mice(PS2) wheel mouse and a optical > wheel mouse. I tried X config also. Any Ideas? > > Thanks > > John McPeek > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- "...and here is fortress ovum being stormed by [EMAIL PROTECTED] millions of tiny warriors..."www.dirac.org/p -- Robert "Schweitzer" Picardo pgp5WJM2HFrP3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: can i740 work in accelerate mode?[math]
maths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my vedio card is i740, could display 800X600, 16bp (or higher, but i only use > this mode). the color is beautiful but very slowly. i tty, i could see this > message: > > (**) SVGA: Chipset: i740 > (**) Option "noaccel" > > . > (**) (SVGA) Acceleration disabled > > can i config it to work in acceleration mode?(and how). Try these settings in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (for xfree 4.x): ... Section "Device" Identifier "Generic Graphics Device" Driver "i740" EndSection ... That's all I use on my wife's machine. Works fine. -- Tschoe,Get my gpg-public-key here Jens http://gecius.de/gpg-key.txt
zone own?
I'm not sure what it's called. but I want to do something like this if i'm the owner of domain.com... and got a subdomain sub.domain.com. I want 202.202.202.202 to be the dns of *.sub.domain.com. so that he'll own everything below sub.domain.com. what do i do in my config? thanks
Re: Voice Mail
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:20:58AM -0500, Cory Rudder wrote: > Does anyone know of a linux voice mail package I could use with an excutone > IDS phone system? > Thanks I am not sure whether this is the answer, but I saw this in a freshmeat newsletter: [005] - bayonne 0.5.15 (default) by David Sugar (http://freshmeat.net/users/davidsugar/) Sunday, February 4th 2001 07:03 Bayonne is the telephony server of the GNU project. Bayonne offers a script driven threaded multiline state event telephony service for building voice response systems and telephony plugins for runtime driver configuration. Bayonne also features "TGI" for making perl applications "telephony aware". Bayonne may be used to build telephony based system administration, home automation, automated attendent, v-commerce, and voice messaging systems. Changes: This release introduces support the the Dialogic telephony SDK and Intel/Dialogic hardware with Bayonne. License: GPL URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/bayonne/ [068] - PreViking 0.4.6 (Default) by AW (http://freshmeat.net/users/eesa/) Friday, February 9th 2001 19:30 PreViking is a telephony daemon written in C. It has been designed with a modular structure that easily allows the addition of different services and the support of different hardware. Current services include a calling card service and a call-back service. PreViking provides an API which includes many functions to do different telephony operations such as call switching, playing/recording messages, and listening/playing DTMF. [snip] URL: http://freshmeat.net/projects/previking/ - I also saw something about a perl frontend for mgetty-voice, but cannot find it now. I still want to get mgetty-voice working some day myself, but in the past found it difficult to configure. Johann -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336. Posbus 4668, Tygervallei 7536 "I will lift up mine eyes unto the hills, from whence cometh my help. My help cometh from the LORD, which made heaven and earth." Psalms 121:1,2
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
On Sat 03 Mar 01, 1:56 AM, Colin Watson said: > > >debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to read > >my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to. > > Surely you could type the folder name in manually, even without knowing > the TAB trick? yeah -- i just figured out that folder names are relative to $HOME, not $HOME/Mail. do you happen to know offhand how to change the default directory to look in for mail folders? if you know it offhand, cool. if not, i can RTFM. thanks! pete pgpt9LaDcrHQI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mouse goes nuts in X
on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 02:28:50AM -0500, John McPeek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > As soon as I start X the mouse looks fine, sitting in the middle of the > screen. The moment I move it the cursor jumps to the top left and other than > bouncing around and jumping back to the corner I can't get it to do > anything. I have already tried different mice(PS2) wheel mouse and a optical > wheel mouse. I tried X config also. Any Ideas? How are you configuring X? My own preference is to use (for XFree86 3.3.x) XF86Setup, which has a graphical configuration tool under which you can select options for various settings, including mouse (with keyboard accellerators), until something works. Highly recommended, if appropriate. Not sure what the equivalent tool for XFree86 v4 is. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpOhQypjgU3R.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:32:19AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat 03 Mar 01, 1:56 AM, Colin Watson said: > > > > >debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to > > >read > > >my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to. > > > > Surely you could type the folder name in manually, even without knowing > > the TAB trick? > > yeah -- i just figured out that folder names are relative to $HOME, not > $HOME/Mail. > > do you happen to know offhand how to change the default directory to look in > for mail folders? if you know it offhand, cool. if not, i can RTFM. set folder=~/Mail mailboxes ! \ +mbox \ +debian-user <...> Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp4WojXMoYyz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:32:19AM -0800, thus spake Peter Jay Salzman: > do you happen to know offhand how to change the default directory to look in > for mail folders? if you know it offhand, cool. if not, i can RTFM. Put this line in ~/.muttrc set folder=~/Mail # where i keep my mailboxes HTH Glyn M. -- so here we are then http://members.tripod.co.uk/Christchurch2000uk Running Debian/Gnu Linux 9:19am up 1:34, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.14, 0.16
/ is suddenly 100% used
Greetings, My root filesystem suddenly shows 100% usage even though there's almost nothing there...df shows its 100% but I am sure it's not...I tried to move and even delete, uninstall some files, applications to check if the usage somehow goes down...it doesn't..du doesn't show anything extraordinary...is there something I can try to find out what's happening and or to pinpoint the culprit? Hoping for some sort of advice. Thank you.
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:06:30AM +0100, Jonathan Gift ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >
> > Yes, launching X from a console w/o securing (or exiting) the console
> > session is a security hole. However, securing or exiting the console
> > session is trivial.
> >
>
> I had just taken xlock off yesterday and i read this thread first thing
> this morning. Good timing. The problem was that I didn't see any point
> in having it on if anyone could pres ctrl-alt-bs and at the console. So
> if I want a secure X environment, what are my choices?
>
> 1. XDM?
> 2. Secure the console before? You mention above it being trivial. How
> can one do it?
Launch X. Kill your console session. In one swell foop if possible.
In my case, the specific command I use is:
$ startx -- :1 1>.startx.log 2>&1 & exit
...and in my case, it works. Not sure why it doesn't for others, though
a 'nonup' may work. On my laptop, I wrote the following bash function
to simplify invoking X. In this case, the invocation is:
$ gostartx; exit
The function:
function gostartx
{
# Wed Feb 7 14:44:04 EST 2001
# Standard X startup -- we choose display :1
# Practice safe X.
if [ $# -eq 0 ];
then disp=1
else disp=$1
fi
if test -f /tmp/.X${disp}-lock; then
if test -d /proc/$( cat /tmp/.X${disp}-lock | sed -e '/ */s///' );
then
echo "X session already running on display :$disp" 1>&2
exit 1
else
echo -e "Removing stale lockfile...\c"
if rm /tmp/.X1-lock; then
echo "Succes"
else
echo "Failed" 1>&2
return 1
fi
fi
fi
As for why I don't use an X display manager, well, I wrote an essay on
that topic: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/xdm-disable.html
...and, on my laptop, one of the problems is that it Just Doesn't Work®
and I Didn't Want To Fsck With It Any More®.
Cheers.
--
Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal
http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org
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Re: How to re-enable ports
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 05:56:55AM -0800, Matheson Cameron ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hey, > > I need to enable my FTP port (21), so that I can use > FTP with my proxy server. How do I do this? (or is > their a better way?) Your question doesn't make sense. How did you disable this port, if at all? -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpLkXET7fPsL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
hi ya jd... whats teh rest of your partitions looking like ?? post the results of df use "du" and see if you see anything odd du /root du /lib du /proc du /boot du /dev du /etc du / all the root stuff ... du /home is probably a separate partition... not affecting 100% / du /var is probably a separate partition... no affecting 100% / check /var/spool/mqueue du /usr is probably a separate partition... not affecting 100% / if you have everything in one or two partitions...something broke c ya alvin On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, jdls wrote: > Greetings, > > My root filesystem suddenly shows 100% usage even though there's almost > nothing there...df shows its 100% but I am sure it's not...I tried to move > and even delete, uninstall some files, applications to check if the usage > somehow goes down...it doesn't..du doesn't show anything extraordinary...is > there something I can try to find out what's happening and or to pinpoint > the culprit? > > Hoping for some sort of advice.
Re: mail configuration questions
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:55:46AM -0800, Tom Schuetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Please set your linewrap to 72 characters. > Is there a single .*rc kind of file where I establish the info for my > POP3 server (their DNS #, url, etc.) and that is referred to by mail, > fetchmail, emacs, etc? $ man fetchmail. Fetchmail will retrieve mail from a remote location, then deliver it locally via your specified mechanism. In my case, procmail, which filters it to folders. Only fetchmail needs to know the pop information, it delivers mail locally to exim. Procmail fetches mail from exim and dumps it to my local folder(s). My mail agent (mutt) reads my local folders. It sends _out_bound mail through exim, which is configured to use my ISP's SMTP relay as a smarthost. The only two external interfaces are fetchmail (incoming) and exim (outgoing). > Or do I need to put that info in *each* .*rc file? No. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp0gGunPZLgw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
"jdls" wrote: >Greetings, > >My root filesystem suddenly shows 100% usage even though there's almost >nothing there...df shows its 100% but I am sure it's not...I tried to move >and even delete, uninstall some files, applications to check if the usage >somehow goes down...it doesn't..du doesn't show anything extraordinary...is >there something I can try to find out what's happening and or to pinpoint >the culprit? One possibility is that there are files in directories that are overlaid by mounted filesystems. To check this, boot in single-user mode and make sure that all other partitions are unmounted and then use `du -s /*' to see where the space is being used. (du is /usr/bin/du, so you will have to copy the binary onto your root partition if you have /usr as a separate partition.) -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you." John 13:34
Re: zone own?
hui ya livia... if you have shacknet.nu and wanna host your friends sites tom.shacknet.nu 192.168.1.* dick.shanet.nu 192.168.2.* harry.shacknet.nu 192.168.3.* you dont need to do much just give them diff ip# they would connect their local/indepdent LAN to their local hub and its uplink to your nic in your gateway box... - you let them do all their fw or you do it for them - lcoal lan can be dialups too if they dont have the bucks for dedicated lines if they want tom.com and dick.com and harry.com to be supported by your server... you need to have their DNS point to ns.shacknet.nu and you can do virtual hosting for them c ya alvin On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Livia Admin wrote: > I'm not sure what it's called. but I want to do something like this > > if i'm the owner of domain.com... and got a subdomain sub.domain.com. > I want 202.202.202.202 to be the dns of *.sub.domain.com. so that he'll own > everything below sub.domain.com. > what do i do in my config? > > > thanks > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:15:00AM -0800, jdls ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Greetings, > > My root filesystem suddenly shows 100% usage even though there's almost > nothing there...df shows its 100% but I am sure it's not...I tried to move > and even delete, uninstall some files, applications to check if the usage ^^ ***NEVER*** delete large files on an impacted filesystem, *unless* you first zero them out, *and* insure nothing's accessing them: $ cat /dev/null > bigfile # truncate bigfile $ fuser bigfile # who's using bigfile? # If and only if no processes have file open: $ rm bigfile ...by deleting a file, you lose access to it, and are now no longer able to (easily) truncate it, move it, rename it, or find out who's using it. While a skilled GNU/Linux user should still be able to recover, you may find it's easier to boot your system to close the open file. > somehow goes down...it doesn't..du doesn't show anything > extraordinary What exactly are you running and what exactly is it showing? > ...is there something I can try to find out what's > happening and or to pinpoint the culprit? List open files: $ lsof / You can also see what directories are using the most space. You want to list directories which are part of your root filesystem, *not* those which are separate filesystems. In my case: $ du -sx /bin /dev /etc /initrd /lib /lost+found /root /sbin | sort -nr | cat -n ...the latter being for readier viewing. You can then descend through the larger directory(ies) with: $ du -sx * .[A-Za-z0-9_]* ...which should pick up most normal and 'dot' files. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpOAY9vowLen.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
2Q: In what package can I find fuser? in What package can I find lsof? Thank you - mattHias /** *Hiaslboy* * alias Matthias Wieser * *Kreuzgasse 20/15* * A - 8010 Graz * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * **/
Re: kernel menus
Hello, On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Marvin Stodolsky wrote: > # ls -l /usr/include > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 29 Mar 1 14:46 /usr/include -> > kernel-headers-2.1.17/include how the heck did u accomplish this?? in /usr/include i have a link to the kernel include files, but /usr/include as a link to the kernel includes where have u installed the glibc includes? and the include files for al those other lib's (like ncurses u need for make menuconfig). My suggestion is to remove quickly that link and reinstall all the *.-dev*.deb files you had installed. Greetz, Jo
Partitioning: speed & track position (was Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks)
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:14:08PM -0500, MaD dUCK ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > also sprach kmself@ix.netcom.com (on Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:08:47PM -0800): > > Advice I've heard (no emperical evidence myself) is that higher > > utilization is best placed toward the physical midpoint of the disk > > radius. This tends to equalize head movement in and out. Unless heads > > park in either an inboard or outboard position? > > mh. interesting. this is news to me... The compromise is between linear track density (moderately high) and seek time (minimized), for center-positioned tracks. In the Multi Disk System Tuning HOWTO: http://www.nyx.net/~sgjoen/disk.html#physical-track-positioning In most cases track 0 is at the outermost track and this is the general assumption most people use. Still, it should be kept in mind that there are no guarantees this is so. Inner tracks are usually slow in transfer, and lying at one end of the seeking position it is also slow to seek to. This is more suitable to the low end directories such as DOS, root and print spools. Middle tracks are on average faster with respect to transfers than inner tracks and being in the middle also on average faster to seek to. This characteristics is ideal for the most demanding parts such as swap, / tmp and /var/tmp. Outer tracks have on average even faster transfer characteristics but like the inner tracks are at the end of the seek so statistically it is equally slow to seek to as the inner tracks. Large files such as libraries would benefit from a place here. Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpC02m1QN3tR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
Try as root: find / -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs -0 ls -s | sort -nr | less And you will see all files sorted by size (in blocks, bigest first) on your root partition... Martin On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, jdls wrote: > Greetings, > > My root filesystem suddenly shows 100% usage even though there's almost > nothing there...df shows its 100% but I am sure it's not...I tried to move > and even delete, uninstall some files, applications to check if the usage > somehow goes down...it doesn't..du doesn't show anything extraordinary...is > there something I can try to find out what's happening and or to pinpoint > the culprit? > > Hoping for some sort of advice. > > Thank you.
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:48:37AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:32:19AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]) wrote: > set folder=~/Mail > > mailboxes ! \ > +mbox \ > +debian-user > > <...> or, if you're piggish (like me) just use set folder=~/Mail set spoolfile=+inbox mailboxes `echo ~/Mail/[a-z]*` that way everything that's in ~/Mail/[a-z]* is treated as a mbox; your ~/.procmailrc (or whatever) may create new mboxes based on sender or topic or what-have-you; this way they'll always show up on mutt's = selection... -- It is always hazardous to ask "Why?" in science, but it is often interesting to do so just the same. -- Isaac Asimov, 'The Genetic Code' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newbieDoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: kill: cannot kill some processes
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Ron Peterson wrote: > > away. They don't consume any CPU time, or any other resources other than > > the slot in the process table and the less than 1K of memory required to ... > Not entirely true. Init can inherit enough zombie processes that it > hits its process limit (1024, if I remember correctly). Can you Well, like I said, they do still take up the slot in the process table. Zombies that *have* been inherited by init go away - it's those that are still waiting for their parent process to check their status that pile up. Init itself doesn't have any limit on the number of zombies it can clean up, otherwise it would be a problem with any long uptime system. > 'shutdown'? Nope. Not unless you can free up a slot. And if > something's going haywire and spawning zombies quickly, this can be a > problem. Linux reserves processes for root so unless your haywire program is running as root you are at least partly shielded from this. control-alt-delete should still be able to reboot the system in such a case (or login as root on the console), if it comes to that. > Not a common occurance, though... This is true :}
x11 - not loading
Hi, I have just, for the first time installed Linux (YAY) but, although it is installed, I can't get x11 too start. I try entering 'startx' but it says it cannot find the config files. I can post the full errors given if needed Thanks for your help! :o)
Re: x11 - not loading
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, David Aldred wrote: > Hi, I have just, for the first time installed Linux (YAY) but, although it is > installed, I can't get x11 too start. > I try entering 'startx' but it says it cannot find the config files. > > I can post the full errors given if needed > > Thanks for your help! :o) > No that's just the problem, that the system does not know the hardware yet. I guess you use stable (xFree 4.0.2 get's set up more or less automaticaly) just use XF86Setup (I think that is what it is called, but do a apropos XF86 to be sure) Ciao - mattHias
Re: kernel menus
Thanks all. Problem solved. It was merely shooting myself in the foot. In the course of comparing use of header resources for compiling ltmodem.o, I temporarily renamed /usr/include --> /usr/Include Temporarily means, I forgot to /usr/Include --> /usr/include immediately after the little experiment. marvS >Jo Geraerts wrote: > > Hello, > > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, Marvin Stodolsky wrote: > > > # ls -l /usr/include > > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 29 Mar 1 14:46 /usr/include -> > > kernel-headers-2.1.17/include > > how the heck did u accomplish this?? > > in /usr/include i have a link to the kernel include files, but > /usr/include as a link to the kernel includes where have u installed > the glibc includes? and the include files for al those other lib's (like > ncurses u need for make menuconfig). > > My suggestion is to remove quickly that link and reinstall all the > *.-dev*.deb files you had installed. > > Greetz, > Jo
Re: x11 - not loading
Hi, have you installed everything of X with 'tasksel' (perhaps during installation)? Have you ran anXious? Do you know what kind of video chip you have? Does Linux know this too? The XF86Config is usually in /etc/X11/ and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/. I believe that the latter is prefered. You can try to see if your X server works with: /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_VGA16 -xf86config /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config Greetz, Sebastiaan On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, David Aldred wrote: > Hi, I have just, for the first time installed Linux (YAY) but, although it is > installed, I can't get x11 too start. > I try entering 'startx' but it says it cannot find the config files. > > I can post the full errors given if needed > > Thanks for your help! :o) >
Q: Need cron is anacron loading?
Hi, I don't have my box on 24hrs a day and cron never worked its magic until I loaded anacron. But I noticed on boot that both cron and anacron are loading. Do I need cron if I have anacron? Or do they complement one another? Thanks, Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
/var getting full
I just did a new cd install of 2.2. I have a 15g hard drive, 5g of which is a windoze partition, 5g for Linux and another 5 free space for BSD when I finally get around to installing it. I just started watching the disk contents, because I've set up disk partitions with 300megs for /var and /200 for /tmp. I am noticing that /var is now 70% full. Yesterday it was 46% and I went in and cleaned out all my big mail files, yet that made little difference. Is there something wrong here or is this normal /var behavior? Here's what the df command yields: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda394667 53227 36552 59% / /dev/hda594635 638 89110 1% /tmp /dev/hda6 283431187954 80838 70% /var /dev/hda7 1922188764500 1060040 42% /usr /dev/hda8 2402992552172 1728756 24% /home thanks
Re: Optical mice
Thanks to all who responded on this. Looked like Logitech or M$ - in the end, the local store only had M$ - gah! - but it works fine. Perhaps I'll take it apart and spray it a different colour, or something;-) LeeE
PPP connection
Hi, I am installing Debian for the first time, on a clean hard disk. I got through the basic installation OK, and have now reached the APT setup part. It asks to configure PPP, which I have done, and it then goes off and dials the modem and seemingly connects succesfully. However, when it then goes to test the connection, nothing appears to happen. I have set the options to UK, and it asks for FTP or HTTP connections, but neither option appears to do anything - not even flash the TX/RX lights on the modem. What have I overlooked? Hope someone can help, as without this bit, it's all a bit useless really! Cheers, Steve.
invoking manual
Recently I did a 2.2 cd install of debian. Before I'd been running the libranet version of debian. I am sourcing the keybind-1.2i file and it has F1 linked to the mutt manual. But, it doesn't work. Trying to get vim to read a .gz file doesn't work either, whereas it used to work with the libranet version. I'm missing some package or configuration, can someone clue me to what it is? I have bash, sh, zsh shells installed. I have vim-rt, vim-tcl installed. thanks
PPP
I am installing Debian for the first time, on a clean hard disk. I got through the basic installation OK, and have now reached the APT setup part. It asks to configure PPP, which I have done, and it then goes off and dials the modem and seemingly connects succesfully. However, when it then goes to test the connection, nothing appears to happen. I have set the options to UK, and it asks for FTP or HTTP connections, but neither option appears to do anything - not even flash the TX/RX lights on the modem. What have I overlooked? Hope someone can help, as without this bit, I'm a bit stuck really! Cheers, Steve.
Video/sound card
I'm looking to buy a new video and sound card and I was wondering what everyone recommends to get for Debian 2.2r2. Specifically, I'm looking for something which is easy to install and setup. TIA, Jesse P.S. I'm not on the list please cc me.
invoking manual
Recently I did a 2.2 cd install of debian. Before I'd been running the libranet version of debian. I am sourcing the keybind-1.2i file and it has F1 linked to the mutt manual. But, it doesn't work. Trying to get vim to read a .gz file doesn't work either, whereas it used to work with the libranet version. I'm missing some package or configuration, can someone clue me to what it is? I have bash, sh, zsh shells installed. I have vim-rt, vim-tcl installed. -- "You are entitled to your actions...not the results" --Bhagavad Gita set cino=>4 au BufEnter *.c,*.h,*.cc,*.java set cindent set ruler set tabstop=4 set textwidth=80 set ai set wrap set backspace=2 retab highlight Normal guibg=Black guifg=white set background=dark iabbrev teh the iabbrev Teh The iabbrev tia thanks in advance iabbrev Tia Thanks in advance
Re: kill: cannot kill some processes
> > One thing about zombie process: Don't worry about trying to "make" them go > > away. They don't consume any CPU time, or any other resources other than > > the slot in the process table and the less than 1K of memory required to > > hold their state information. They are not worth worrying about. > > Not entirely true. Init can inherit enough zombie processes that it > hits its process limit (1024, if I remember correctly). Can you > 'shutdown'? Nope. Not unless you can free up a slot. And if > something's going haywire and spawning zombies quickly, this can be a > problem. > > Not a common occurance, though... Seconded, although for a different reason and based on an experience on Solaris. Right now on a big Solaris machine of mine I have about a dozen zombied Perls--parent process (Apache) long gone, and when I -9ed them, their PPIDs became 1 (init). Classic zombie. Problem is, these Perls are running scripts off a software RAID, and thus have it locked. This happened before--when I reboot the server to get rid of the zombies, or some other reason, the filesystem won't unmount, won't get a clean flag, and therefore will force fsck on reboot. As it's over 100GB, a full fsck takes several hours. Now maybe there's something I don't know to recover from this cleanly, or maybe Linux handles it a different way, but it seems like this is an example of zombies causing a real problem. If anyone knows a way around it, I'd be real grateful! c
Re: /var getting full
Check out /var/cache/apt/archives ... this is the default place apt puts downloaded packages. apt-get autoclean will clear out old packages, apt-get clean will delete all the packages and if you install apt-move, apt-move update will generate a local mirror for you using the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives. You can stick this mirror directory somewhere else with more room ... like /home if you like. Sean On Saturday 03 March 2001 08:07, Dale Morris wrote: > I just did a new cd install of 2.2. I have a 15g hard drive, 5g of which is > a windoze partition, 5g for Linux and another 5 free space for BSD when I > finally get around to installing it. I just started watching the disk > contents, because I've set up disk partitions with 300megs for /var and > /200 for /tmp. I am noticing that /var is now 70% full. Yesterday it was > 46% and I went in and cleaned out all my big mail files, yet that made > little difference. Is there something wrong here or is this normal /var > behavior? > > Here's what the df command yields: > > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda394667 53227 36552 59% / > /dev/hda594635 638 89110 1% /tmp > /dev/hda6 283431187954 80838 70% /var > /dev/hda7 1922188764500 1060040 42% /usr > /dev/hda8 2402992552172 1728756 24% /home > > thanks -- Conversation, n.: A vocal competition in which the one who is catching his breath is called the listener.
Re: Optical mice
Personally, while I don't care much for their software, I think MS makes pretty good mice. I have an MS Optical Trackball at home and a Logitech Marble Trackball at work, and much prefer the MS one but that's just a personal preference of course, both perform the same as far as I'm concerned. Sean On Saturday 03 March 2001 08:27, Lee Elliott wrote: > Thanks to all who responded on this. Looked like Logitech or M$ - in > the end, the local store only had M$ - gah! - but it works fine. > > Perhaps I'll take it apart and spray it a different colour, or > something;-) > > LeeE -- BOFH excuse #120: we just switched to FDDI.
Re: Video/sound card
As far as video card goes, I really like my Matrox G400. The 32MB cards are still going for over $100, which I think is overpriced. If I were looking at buying one today, I'd look at either a Radeon or a Geforce2. The support for the G400 is very very good, so the ease of installation is quite high. I don't know how hard the other two cards are to install, but I have heard of people having troubles in both cases. Before you decide, I'd definately wander into somplace like #debian on irc.debian.org and ask around for user experiences with any and all of the cards you might be considering. You should also perhaps do a Google search and/or look at the installation instructuions for the cards to get a better idea of how well they're supported and consequently how easy they are to install. As far as sound cards go, I have a Trident 4D Wave and think it's an excellent card. I've heard that Creative Labs has open sourced their drivers for the SBLive, so the support for those cards might be good now as well ... you might want to follow the same steps as described above to get a better idea. If you're just wanting basic audio (wav & CD), I'm sure you could find an Ensonic AudioPCI somewhere like Ebay (or perhaps even retail) for very cheap. These cards have a very good sound, as long as you don't want to mess with MIDI ... but I guess that's what timidity is for. :) Good Luck. Sean On Saturday 03 March 2001 08:46, Jesse Goerz wrote: > I'm looking to buy a new video and sound card and I was wondering what > everyone recommends to get for Debian 2.2r2. Specifically, I'm looking for > something which is easy to install and setup. > > TIA, > Jesse > > P.S. I'm not on the list please cc me. -- He was a fiddler, and consequently a rogue. -- Jonathon Swift
Re: PPP connection
Hi, are you sure you want to do an install over your telephone line? I have no experience with this, but have you provided nameservers? (see /etc/resolv.conf for it). Can you ping/telnet when manually starting up ppp (with: pon )? What do the logs say? For example, do on one terminal tail -f /var/log/syslog and try again. Greetz, Sebastiaan On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Steve Linksted wrote: > Hi, > I am installing Debian for the first time, on a clean hard disk. I got > through the basic installation OK, and have now reached the APT setup part. > It asks to configure PPP, which I have done, and it then goes off and dials > the modem and seemingly connects succesfully. However, when it then goes to > test the connection, nothing appears to happen. I have set the options to > UK, and it asks for FTP or HTTP connections, but neither option appears to do > anything - not even flash the TX/RX lights on the modem. What have I > overlooked? > Hope someone can help, as without this bit, it's all a bit useless really! > Cheers, > Steve. > >
Re: apt-get testing
MaD dUCK wrote: > hey, how can i use apt-get to get something like postfix-0.0.20010228-1 > out of testing? i have testing/main and some other testing's in my > sources.list, but > > apt-get --download-only install testing/postfix > > doesn't work, and > > apt-get --download-only install postfix > > reports that postfix is already installed... Thats because stable and testing have the same version of postfix. -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
P2P Networking Question
I have a windows 98 <-> Debian LAN at home, and I can't seem to get either computer to ping the other one. Are there any special configurations I have to set up to make a doze box talk to a linux box? A website address would be very useful if you could supply it. Thanks :) -Jason
Changed: mutt: setup multiple mailboxes
Good point, but... On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 04:17:57AM -0600, will trillich wrote: > or, if you're piggish (like me) just use > > set folder=~/Mail > set spoolfile=+inbox > mailboxes `echo ~/Mail/[a-z]*` > > that way everything that's in ~/Mail/[a-z]* is treated as a mbox; > your ~/.procmailrc (or whatever) may create new mboxes based on > sender or topic or what-have-you; this way they'll always show > up on mutt's = selection... I do this with: mailboxes `ls -1 ~/Mail|grep -v Maillog|sed -e 's/^/+/' | tr "\n" " "` This way, I can have Inbox and Outbox which comes on the top of mutt's = selection... Regards, Osamu -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pc/ Cupertino, CA USA +
Re: invoking manual
Did you install less and gzip? Check with: $ dpkg -l less gzip If not apt-get install is nothing but running zless. The way you described sounds like missing gzip. It is required package. Regards, Osamu On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 05:36:38AM -0800, Dale Morris wrote: > Recently I did a 2.2 cd install of debian. Before I'd been running the > libranet version of debian. I am sourcing the keybind-1.2i file and it has > F1 linked to the mutt manual. But, it doesn't work. Trying to get vim to > read a .gz file doesn't work either, whereas it used to work with the > libranet version. I'm missing some package or configuration, can someone > clue me to what it is? > I have bash, sh, zsh shells installed. > I have vim-rt, vim-tcl installed. -- + Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GnuPG-key: 1024D/D5DE453D + + Fingerprint: 814E BD64 3288 40E7 E88E 3D92 C3F8 EA94 D5DE 453D + + http://www.aokiconsulting.com/pc/ Cupertino, CA USA +
Re: Video/sound card
On Saturday 03 March 2001 10:02, you wrote: > On Saturday 03 March 2001 13:46, Jesse Goerz wrote: > > I'm looking to buy a new video and sound card and I was wondering what > > everyone recommends to get for Debian 2.2r2. Specifically, I'm looking > > for something which is easy to install and setup. > > > > TIA, > > Jesse > > > > P.S. I'm not on the list please cc me. > > Apart from being easy to setup > what are you needing the cards > to do? > > media? work? graphics? > > adam I pretty much just use it for programming for now, but I wanted to get some of that multimedia stuff;-) Mainly just something which I can get decent screen resolution (>[EMAIL PROTECTED] bit color), and some decent sound, I'd like to try out a few games and maybe get some kind of media player going so I can view videos, listen to the radio, etc. TIA, Jesse
Re: /var getting full-SOLVED!
this is an easy one, /var was being filled by apt-cache and cleaned up by running apt-get clean Dale Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I just did a new cd install of 2.2. I have a 15g hard drive, 5g of which is > a windoze partition, 5g for Linux and another 5 free space for BSD when I > finally get around to installing it. I just started watching the disk > contents, because I've set up disk partitions with 300megs for /var and /200 > for /tmp. I am noticing that /var is now 70% full. Yesterday it was 46% and > I went in and cleaned out all my big mail files, yet that made little > difference. Is there something wrong here or is this normal /var behavior? > > Here's what the df command yields: > > Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/hda394667 53227 36552 59% / > /dev/hda594635 638 89110 1% /tmp > /dev/hda6 283431187954 80838 70% /var > /dev/hda7 1922188764500 1060040 42% /usr > /dev/hda8 2402992552172 1728756 24% /home > > thanks > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- "You are entitled to your actions...not the results" --Bhagavad Gita
Re: manually installing mozilla plugins
Matheson Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was wondering if their was a way to manually install > mozilla plugins. I need the java one, but I can't get > it because I can't get FTP to work with my proxy > server (help with that too please). I did manage to > download it from a Windoze machine (the proxy server), > and so now I have a file named 'jre.xpi'. I don't > know what to do with it though. Any ideas? Just load it into mozilla. i.e., load the URL file:///path/to/jre.xpi Mozilla will offer to install the plugin, and do a bunch of stuff then hang. Then, you get out of mozilla, cd to the plugins directory and ln -s java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . -- Dave Carrigan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])| Yow! Fold, fold, FOLD!! FOLDING UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-DNS | many items!! Seattle, WA, USA| http://www.rudedog.org/ |
Re: How do I set the default printer?
On Fri, 02 Mar 2001, Stan Brown wrote: > On Fri Mar 2 08:47:15 2001 Sebastiaan wrote... >> >>Hi, >> >>I think it has to do with the order in /etc/printcap. Put the >>default printer on top. I am not sure, but it seems logical. >> > > Thanks > > While this may seem logical to you, it's extremely non > intuitive to anyone that has ever admined a non Linux UNIX > system! You could try 'export PRINTER=lp0' in your ~/.bashrc if you want a more intuitive solution. Change lp0 with whichever printer you want to be the default. Cheers, Chris -- Got jag? http://www.tribsoft.com
Re: Q: Need cron is anacron loading?
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:34:54PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > I don't have my box on 24hrs a day and cron never worked its magic until > I loaded anacron. But I noticed on boot that both cron and anacron are > loading. Do I need cron if I have anacron? Or do they complement one > another? Hello Jonathan, I just found this in anacron's README: -QUOTE- [...] Anacron is not an attempt to make cron redundant. It cannot currently be used to schedule commands at intervals smaller than days. It also does not guarantee that the commands will be executed at any specific day or hour. It isn't a full-time daemon. It has to be executed from boot scripts, from cron-jobs, or explicitly [...] -END OF QUOTE- Kind regards, Andreas.
Installing Mozilla
I just installed Version 2.2r2, and downloaded Mozilla0.6. When I try to install Mozilla, I get the error message: "mozilla-bin: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". It would appear I'm missing a package, but, being a newbie, I can't tell which one from the message. Any ideas? Wesley Aman
Re: Installing Mozilla
You can search for specific libraries at: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages (the second search category: searching for contents) A search for the library in question reveals you need the following package: libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 Cheers, Bryan On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:57AM -0800, Wesley Aman wrote: > I just installed Version 2.2r2, and downloaded Mozilla0.6. When I try > to install Mozilla, I get the error message: "mozilla-bin: error in > loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory". > It would appear I'm missing a package, but, being a newbie, I can't tell > which one from the message. Any ideas? > Wesley Aman > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
message: ¨depmod: multiply defined¨
The message: "depmod: multiply defined" appeared when the machine is starting... how can I resolve this problem?
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
This is a bug with the version of mutt included with unstable. I missed this
feature bad, so I went to www.mutt.org, downloaded the source for mutt1.6.13i,
compiled it, and rather than do a full install I just moved the mutt binary over
my old binary, which I of course saved incase this failed horribly. The problem
was fixed and nothing seemed to break, so that might be something you could try.
=]
On Fri Mar 02/2001 @ 5:03:P -0800 asdasd, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> dear all,
>
> you know how you hit "c" to open other mailboxes and it says:
>
>Open mailbox ('?' for list):
>
> well, i can no longer use '?' to see the list of mailboxes. it does
> nothing; it simply drops me back to the main mailbox index.
>
> the only thing i can think of is that i *just* updated woody using apt-get.
> i don't know if mutt was one of the packages that got updated.
>
> does some kind soul have any ideas what might be going on?
>
> now that i can't access my mailboxes, can you cc this account with a reply?
> debian-user goes to a folder (via procmail), and the only way i have to read
> my debian mail is by using vi on the mailbox it gets sent to.
>
>
> a second wierd mutt thing. as root, when i run mutt, it says:
>
>/var/spool/mail/root: Permission denied (errno = 13)
>
> even though
>
># ll /var/spool/mail/root
>-rw-rw1 root mail 0 Oct 20 08:05 /var/spool/mail/root
>
> this *just* happened at the same time the other mutt problem began, just a
> few minutes ago after running apt-get. any ideas about this problem?
>
> mail problems suck. any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> thanks!
> pete
--
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RE: Getting to the GUI...
So here I sit looking at potato running WindowMaker and scratching my head! But before I launch into the saga let me thank all who replied to my posts, especially Manuel Reiter and David Wright. Besides giving me some insights, their input kept me from scrubbing everything Debian off the disk in disgust. Now for the story. Apologies that this is long, but it may encourage someone else who has had as much trouble as I have had getting X up and running. Others can hit delete at this point. TUESDAY --- Evening commitments so only an hour or so to play. I followed the advice of Manuel and David I went over all of my X stuff with a fine tooth comb to make sure all the links were correct, the correct server was chosen, etc. Tried XF86Setup a couple of times, always picking "ATI Xpert 98" for the card and changing some of the monitor characteristics. Always failure - both when XF86Setup starts up the xserver or when I would type "startx". Occasionally a particular combo would get past the "Done" of XF86Setup without failing and give me the "Congratulations you've got a running XServer" page, but after I saved the configuration file and tried "startx" manually it would fail. Gave up for the night. WEDNESDAY - I bought the third addition of "Running Linux" published by O'Reilly since it had a nice chapter on installing X. While I was in the Barnes and Noble bookstore the earthquake hit (I live east of Seattle). Got home, no damage, just a few vases tipped over. Whew! Again evening commitments so only a couple of hours. Play some more, this time tweaking parameters with XF86Setup and xf86config. Again, I would get the occasional combo that would get to the "you have a running X server" page but a manual "startx" would fail. So gave it up for the night. THURSDAY During the day I downloaded a bunch of info from www.xfree86.org. I also chucked the "no-name" monitor that I was using. It had a token brand name of "Icon", but I couldn't find *any* info for it whatsoever after doing a search on the web. It was replacing by an 15 inch AOpen F50L LCD display. I had been waiting for a reason to try one of these and having a monitor *with* specifications would help in my current situation. Had to work late though, so once again only a couple of hours to play. Armed with "Running LINUX", the xfree86 HOW-TOs and the new monitor specs I started playing again. I hand crafted an XF86Config file from what I had gleaned from the info on the video adapter and the monitor specs. Always, "startx" would fail. When I tried "startx -probeonly" it didn't seem to give me much info that was truly useful. I booted into my Mandrake installation at runlevel 2 to so that I could capture the printout from "X -probeonly" since that installation was running XF86Free 4 just fine. The printout said that the card had an internal RAMDAC and a programmable clock. Back to potato. I tried XF86Setup again, but this time picked "ATI mach64 internal RAMDAC" and I picked the monitor type that matched the AOpen specs. The Xserver started and I hit he "Save XF86Config" button. Manually using "startx" would always fail. This time I repeated the sequence a few times and found that it was indeed repeatable! So I felt that I was at least getting *somewhere*. Gave up for the night at this point. FRIDAY -- By this time I knew that I had better spend the evening with my wife. She had been gently teasing me about how much time I was spending with "Debbie-Ann" and I didn't want it to escalate! However my wife had to run a quick errand so I thought that I would putter around in the computer room. I read some mail and then decided to quickly boot to Mandrake and add the Debian partition to LILO. Booting from the floppy was just *too* painful and I had been avoiding reboots to Debian because of that. My wife came home just as I gotten a good config file generated and successfully used it to boot to Mandrake. We decided to practice our recorders, but just before leaving the computer I started LILO booting to Debian as a test. I could see that it has successfully started and left the room. Well, we practiced our recorders and decided it was time to call it a night. I went over to the Linux computer to shut it down. Lo and behold It was sitting there at the GUI login prompt. I was stunned but decided that any further activity would have to wait until the morning. SATURDAY I was really perplexed about why it was working but I didn't want to look a gift-horse in the mouth so logged in as root and started to learn a little bit about WindowMaker. Of course the first thing I did was to open up terminal window and copy XF86Config to XF86Config.works"!! ;-) That's where things stand at the moment. Today I need to get the network up and play with the sound card as well. Then I will try GNOME. - Lessons and a Question - LESSON 1: Be willing to spend a little money on a good referenc
Re: apt-get testing
MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >hey, how can i use apt-get to get something like postfix-0.0.20010228-1 >out of testing? i have testing/main and some other testing's in my >sources.list, but > >apt-get --download-only install testing/postfix > >doesn't work, If you've got apt 0.5.0, postfix/testing is the right syntax; with the apt currently in stable and testing, neither will work. >apt-get --download-only install postfix > >reports that postfix is already installed... postfix 0.0.20010228-1 is only in unstable, as several architectures haven't caught up with building it yet. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get via firewall
on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 10:19:57PM -0800, Osamu Aoki ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 08:49:02PM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Not necessarily: an authenticating proxy http firewall may pose > > problems. > > I bet you are right. (I thought about it, too. I was thinking > ftp while writing it.) > > Is there any way to know whether proxi exit or not? > Just curious. Not sure. The authenticating proxy I was stuck behind for much of the past month didn't do much for running apt-get though. Tried doing things like using a 'user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]' in junkbuster forwardfile, etc., didn't work. Had unfettered access at other times, so I didn't fight it too hard. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgplzHviepcI1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Reconstructing Var?
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:52:27PM -0600, will trillich wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 03:07:58PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 06:52:17PM +, Matthew Sackman wrote: > > > > > > When /var went down, I was able to tar and bzip2 up /home /etc /root > > > and drop them into a windows partition which meant that I lost no real > > > > why did you do that? if you have seperate partitions there is no need > > to back them up, just don't initialize them in the debian installer. > > mount them instead. > > what ethan means, is, altho there's probably a good reason to > back up just about anything, you don't have to reset your > partitions when you reinstall debian, even from a cd-boot. like > he said, just MOUNT already-initialized (and filled with booty) > partitions and you're off to the races... Yes - I was aware of that, but I wanted to resize some of the partitions already, and as this computer has to be used by some on linux people and previously partitioning in cfdisk had caused some problems, I decided to start things off afresh and set things up under FDISK in DOS to keep that side of things happy. I did spend some time thinking out the best way of getting this done... > > backup whatever you want to back up. early. and often. take it > from the department of redundancy department. backups are a Good > Thing. > Yes. I do hear you. ;-) Matthew -- Matthew Sackman Nottingham, ENGLAND Using Debian/GNU Linux Enjoying computing
potato and kernel 2.4.1
I have a fresh installation of Debian 2.2r2(Potato) with kernel 2.2.18pre21. I compiled and installed kernel 2.4.1 (following the instructions given in kernel-package) It installed fine.. but when i boot it , it can't find any modules! the mods are installed in /lib/modules/2.4.1 How can i get 2.4.1 to work with potato? -anks
Re: Installing Mozilla
That did the trick! Thanks. Wesley Aman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > You can search for specific libraries at: > http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages (the second search category: > searching for contents) > > A search for the library in question reveals you need the following > package: > libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 > > Cheers, > Bryan > > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 09:14:57AM -0800, Wesley Aman wrote: > > I just installed Version 2.2r2, and downloaded Mozilla0.6. When I try > > to install Mozilla, I get the error message: "mozilla-bin: error in > > loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared > > object file: No such file or directory". > > It would appear I'm missing a package, but, being a newbie, I can't tell > > which one from the message. Any ideas? > > Wesley Aman > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] vmware / boot floppy
I'm trying to set up vmware in order to test debian boot floppys. VMware installed fine on slink, 2.4.1 kernel. The problem I'm having is when I try to install potato as a test with boot.bin I get the message, "Operating system not found" The virtual bios is set to boot off the floppy. The seek light on the A drive comes on when I boot in the vmware environment. Anyone know how I can get vmware to boot off the floppy? Thanks, kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of "The Panther" - R. M. Rilke
/usr/share and multiple versions
My network runs a mix of stable/potato and testing/woody systems. I'm considering consolidating their /usr/share directories, but I'm not sure how safe that would be. Specifically, if I put all of them into a single NFS-exported location, will using apt to update the potato machines be prone to wiping out or downgrading files placed there by the woody machines? Or would I need to set up two separate NFS exports, one for stable's /usr/share and one for testing's /usr/share (and just live with the duplication of data between the two versions)? -- SGI products are used to create the 'Bugs' that entertain us in theatres and at home. - SGI job posting Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: potato and kernel 2.4.1
Hi, you need some new packages. Install binutils and ppp from woody. That will work. See Changes (or something) in the /usr/src/linux directory. Greetz, Sebastiaan On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Ankit Jain wrote: > > > I have a fresh installation of Debian 2.2r2(Potato) with kernel > 2.2.18pre21. I compiled and installed kernel 2.4.1 (following > the instructions given in kernel-package) It installed fine.. > but when i boot it , it can't find any modules! the mods are > installed in /lib/modules/2.4.1 > > How can i get 2.4.1 to work with potato? > > -anks > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: xfree4.0 and 3d accel
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:10:08AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > oh, sorry -- i thought you were talking about quake 3. > > do yourself a favor. don't compile the original quake source. there's a > project quakeforge which is a group of people doing a re-write of quake, > similar to how prboom and doom legacy are working with the original doom > code. if you want to play original quake, quakeforge is the way to go. > > i'll bet your problem below will disappear with the modernized quakeforge > code. Well, I grabbed quake-x11 from potato, and that works fine. I have an old quake CD, and I replaced the relevant files from there, so it's a working Linux quake 1 version. I'll definitely take a look at quakeforge. I have found in the past that while installing Mesa is simple, it wasn't compiled with 3-d accel support. I tried once getting the entire glide + mesa stuff working with my Voodoo 3 and it was hell. I never got it to work. I don't know if potato's version of Mesa is hardware accelerated or if I have to compile from source if I want that. Now, you said that under X 4.0 the tdfx module provides hardware acceleration. Does that mean that I don't have to recompile Mesa? Mike
Re: potato and kernel 2.4.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > > I have a fresh installation of Debian 2.2r2(Potato) with kernel > 2.2.18pre21. I compiled and installed kernel 2.4.1 (following > the instructions given in kernel-package) It installed fine.. > but when i boot it , it can't find any modules! the mods are > installed in /lib/modules/2.4.1 > > How can i get 2.4.1 to work with potato? You need the modutils from woody to be able to use 2.4.x on potato. Some others may need to be updated; which depends on your particular requirements. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6oT/4/ZTSZFDeHPwRAqVBAJ9YXikGZ7rZaE6XyDstzzwYIINyeACfcAy9 LuUaW52ekiIlgDXlgROcBfg= =oEm8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:23:02AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > ***NEVER*** delete large files on an impacted filesystem, *unless* you > first zero them out, *and* insure nothing's accessing them: Isn't that a flaw in the system then? I can understand if a process still has the file open, but the file should be flagged for deletion. You should never be able to permanently damage the filesystem in this way. If you reboot the machine, will the space be properlly deallocated? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925
Re: Eek! X won't go away!
also sprach Jonathan Gift (on Sat, 03 Mar 2001 08:06:30AM +0100): > 1. XDM? just to get this back... why *not* xdm? you don't have to write functions, it is guaranteed to work, and it's really not inconvenient. martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- windoze 98: useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
also sprach will trillich (on Sat, 03 Mar 2001 04:17:57AM -0600): > mailboxes `echo ~/Mail/[a-z]*` oh. nice. didn't know muttrc can execute `` martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- "and if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear you shout and no one seems to hear and if the band you're in starts playing different tunes i'll see you on the dark side of the moon." -- pink floyd, 1972
Re: Hot to install a different Xserver
Il Saturday 24 February 2001 08:04, Rick Commo ha scritto: > Newbie Debian user... > > I accidentally installed the wrong Xserver. During the install I thought I > would be given a choice so I said to when asked if I wanted to install > XF86_VGA16. > > The one I need is XF86_MACH64 for my ATI Expert 98 PCI card. > > How do I install XF86_MACH64? I think once I get that installed I can > figure out the rest. > > thanks, > -rick I had the same problem! Here's how I solved it! First of all install the XF86_Mach64 server issuing: apt-get install xserver-mach64 (debian potato 2.2r2 CD's) then start XF86Setup and answer that you don't want to use the existing configuration file Finally go on with your configuration. Vittorio
mail2web interface?
hey, on a couple of servers, i am running postfix with qpopper to provide POP3 service to my clients. since i have disabled telnet and would much rather not give shell access the first place, i would like to meet my clients' demands of remote mail access with a nice mail2web interface, which works on /var/mail/* or ~/.mail. do you have any pointers? martin [greetings from the heart of the sun]# echo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@@@.net -- "i wish there was a knob on the tv to turn up the intelligence. there's a knob called 'brightness', but it doesn't seem to work." -- gallagher
Re: an awful mutt thing just happened
Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > yeah -- i just figured out that folder names are relative to $HOME, not > $HOME/Mail. Actually, folder names are relative to your current working directory. It just so happens that most people start mutt while they're in $HOME. > do you happen to know offhand how to change the default directory to look in > for mail folders? if you know it offhand, cool. if not, i can RTFM. Please get in the habit of RTFMing before asking an easily answered question in front of thousands of people. :) Unfortunately you can't make folder names relative to $HOME/Mail with a setting in .muttrc. The best you can do is "set folder = ~/Mail", and then get in the habit of prepending "=" or "+" before each folder name (those characters are shortcuts for the default mail folder; RTFM :). Or you could devise an ugly hack to get what you want-- put $HOME/bin in your path (before /usr/bin), and create a $HOME/bin/mutt with the following contents: #!/bin/sh cd $HOME/Mail exec /usr/bin/mutt
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
Michael P. Soulier wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:23:02AM -0800, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > ***NEVER*** delete large files on an impacted filesystem, *unless* you > > first zero them out, *and* insure nothing's accessing them: > > Isn't that a flaw in the system then? No, it's a feature. :-) > I can understand if a process still > has the file open, but the file should be flagged for deletion. That's exactly what happens. The file is "flagged for deletion" and then is actually deleted when the process closes the file. kmself's point is that the file isn't deleted until the process stops using it. If you rm the file first, you won't know which process is keeping the disk space occupied by using the file. > You should > never be able to permanently damage the filesystem in this way.If you reboot > the machine, will the space be properlly deallocated? The fs isn't permanently or even temporarily damaged. If you think about it, this is the only sane way to handle deleting files that processes are still using. brian
Re: /usr/share and multiple versions
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My network runs a mix of stable/potato and testing/woody systems. > I'm considering consolidating their /usr/share directories, but I'm not > sure how safe that would be. FYI, from the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.1/fhs-4.7.html: Note, however, that /usr/share is generally not intended to be shared by different OSes or by different releases of the same OS. -- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.newt.com/wohler/ Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and mh-e. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.
Gnus or Slrn for newsreader?
I have been using Pan as my newsreader. Its really not bad. Very easy to set up and use the gui.But i plan to try Gnus or Slrn. Any comments about either in terms of ease of setup/use, features and basically is either one worth the effort compared to Pan. -- LINUX~~nobody owns it~~everybody can use it~~anybody can improve it ~~~
Re: Q: Need cron is anacron loading?
Andreas Hetzmannseder wrote: > > It isn't a full-time daemon. It has to be executed from boot > scripts, from cron-jobs, or explicitly [...] > Thanks. I'll research some more. So much to learn . Jonathan -- /* Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
Re: potato and kernel 2.4.1
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Ankit Jain wrote: > I have a fresh installation of Debian 2.2r2(Potato) with kernel > 2.2.18pre21. I compiled and installed kernel 2.4.1 (following > the instructions given in kernel-package) It installed fine.. > but when i boot it , it can't find any modules! the mods are > installed in /lib/modules/2.4.1 > > How can i get 2.4.1 to work with potato? You have to upgrade at least modutils. See [1] for more information on the required packages to get 2.4.1 running on potato. > -anks cu Adrian [1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html -- Nicht weil die Dinge schwierig sind wagen wir sie nicht, sondern weil wir sie nicht wagen sind sie schwierig.
Re: /var getting full-SOLVED!
Dale Morris wrote: > this is an easy one, /var was being filled by apt-cache and cleaned up by > running apt-get clean Actually, /var/cache/apt is both filled and cleaned by apt-get. As I understand it, apt-cache is for querying and manipulating the contents of /var/lib/apt/lists. And yes, whoever named the apt utilties needs to be slapped. My favorite example of their poor naming is using apt-get to remove a package. That's a bit like using the start button in Windows to shutdown the system. And isn't it funny that there's no "apt" binary? You'd think that with a tool named "apt" the actually frontend would be named "apt" also. Oh well. I didn't write it and I'm not contributing code, so I guess I can't complain too much.
Re: kill: cannot kill some processes
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:52:36AM -0500, Cory Snavely wrote:
> Right now on a big Solaris machine of mine I have about a dozen zombied
> Perls--parent process (Apache) long gone, and when I -9ed them, their PPIDs
> became 1 (init). Classic zombie.
Hrrrm? Not quite. Init eventually inherits zombie children (when the
parent dies), but init reaps the dead children. Perhaps your children
aren't dead?
> Problem is, these Perls are running scripts off a software RAID, and thus
> have it locked. This happened before--when I reboot the server to get rid of
> the zombies, or some other reason, the filesystem won't unmount, won't get a
> clean flag, and therefore will force fsck on reboot. As it's over 100GB, a
> full fsck takes several hours.
>
> Now maybe there's something I don't know to recover from this cleanly, or
> maybe Linux handles it a different way, but it seems like this is an example
> of zombies causing a real problem. If anyone knows a way around it, I'd be
> real grateful!
Doesn't sound like a zombie to me. A zombie has -no- open files and goes
away as soon as init inherits it. A zombie is in state 'Z' on ps.
What you describe sounds more like something in state 'D', which is
waiting for IO to complete. (This can happen on NFS when things break in
just the wrong way for some reason.) They're not zombies because they're
not dead yet (they need to release their files before they are really
dead).
For processes stuck in a 'D' state, there is very little you can do about
them. You may be able to sneak out of re-fscking by remounting the drive
read-only before rebooting, though.
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Re: Gnus or Slrn for newsreader?
On Saturday 03 March 2001 13:27, mike polniak wrote: > I have been using Pan as my newsreader. Its really not bad. Very > easy to set up and use the gui.But i plan to try Gnus or Slrn. > Any comments about either in terms of ease of setup/use, features > and basically is either one worth the effort compared to Pan. I've never used Pan, so I can't compare either of them with it. I tried slrn for a while. It was OK but never really grabbed me. Lots of people like and recommend it -- I'm sure you'll hear from them. I used xemacs gnus for both mail and news for years. It is an acquired taste. Most people either love it or don't like it at all. The first thing to know about gnus is that it runs in [x]emacs. That is its greatest strength: it is intimately integrated with the most powerful editor on the planet. If you're familiar with emacs, and especially if you know even a little bit of emacs lisp, you can make gnus do almost anything you want. If you're comfortable with the emacs way of doing things gnus will quickly seem like the most natural way in the world to read news and mail. On the other hand, if you think emacs was invented to torture people with carpal tunnel syndrome you probably won't care for gnus either. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
RE: ppp-accounting
Hello, John Hasler wrote: > M G Berberich writes: > > I'm thinking about switching to the commandline (pppconfig and Co.). > > You can use pppconfig to configure ppp and still control ppp from a GUI. > Try gpppon. > > Is there a way do the same with the debian-ppp-scripts? > It shouldn't be too hard to write accounting scripts for /etc/ppp/ip-up.d > and /etc/ppp/ip-down.d. It did so. The result is available at http://www.forwiss.uni-passau.de/~berberic/ppplog.tar.gz maybe it is usefull to someone. MfG bmg -- "Des is völlig wurscht, was heut beschlos- | M G Berberich sen wird: I bin sowieso dagegn!" | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SPD-Stadtrat Kurt Schindler; Regensburg) | pgpIYiai9Z2mZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnus or Slrn for newsreader?
mike polniak wrote: > I have been using Pan as my newsreader. Its really not bad. Very > easy to set up and use the gui.But i plan to try Gnus or Slrn. > Any comments about either in terms of ease of setup/use, features > and basically is either one worth the effort compared to Pan. I absolutely love mutt (proving that I don't mind console programs), and I absolutely hate slrn. It's interface is terribly awkward. Slrn's biggest problem is that it doesn't cache any articles or headers, so it can't easily display certain articles read in past slrn sessions. My method of choice for viewing articles in most newsreaders is to view all the articles in threads that contain unread articles. This lets me ignore inactive threads while also providing complete context for the articles that I'm about to read, just by glancing at the thread tree. Slrn can't do that (easily). This is especially troublesome in moderated newsgroups (try alt.atheism.moderated), because each new batch of articles only contains responses to the previous batch, and therefore each thread is completely flat if you've already read the previous batch of articles. You have to actually view each and every article just to know who's responding to whom. And you get _completely_ lost if the article author doesn't include a quote from the article to which s/he's responding. It also has unintuitive and seemingly arbitrary keybindings (at least for the hardcore mutt user) and lacks basic features in its default configuration. For example, you can't scroll up in an article by one line, only by one page. If you're used to scrolling down by one line by hitting Enter and scrolling up by one line by hitting Backspace, get ready for a jarring experience. It also has very poor documentation. Remember, this is all IMHO, and YMMV. I'm not trying to insult any slrn users or developers out there. brian
X Setup
I installed X windows 4.0.1 and all the packages (including debconf). I got no dependency errors(I downloaded ALL files for X from the website). The config program never ran. I've even tried reistalling and dpkg-reconfigure. XF86Setup and XF86Config do not exist. This is a fresh install of debian 2.2r2 with only the base installed (ie no extra packages). I've installed 4.0.1 before without any trouble. Debconf came up without a hitch (much better than XF86Setup). Any idea on how I can get X setup?? any help or ideas are greatly appreciated Jess _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: / is suddenly 100% used
on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:26:44AM -0800, Brian Frederick Kimball ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Michael P. Soulier wrote: <...> > kmself's point is that the file isn't deleted until the process stops > using it. If you rm the file first, you won't know which process is > keeping the disk space occupied by using the file. Not strictly. You can track things down through lsof or the /proc filesystem, but it's hard to work out what files are then accounting for large amounts of disk utilization. In other words -- it's a hell of a lot easier to deal with a file if you've got a file to deal with, rather than just a filehandle (lsof). -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpblDIfYPXuG.pgp Description: PGP signature
I can hang up my potato every time...
Hi It's idiotical, i haven't seen it before. Linux debian 2.2.17 Potato kde 2.0, kdm 2.0-20001004-0 luxman 0.41-11 Celeron 333MHz 64MB RAM, ATI RAGE PRO When I switch to text console (ctrl+alt+Fn), login and start luxman game, the system every time has been hang up!!! I can do nothing (keyboard dead) and can only press reset. When I was using startx instead of graphical login (it's true for gdm/wdm/xdm also), there was no such problem. My mistake or bug? Any ideas? -- ~~~ /* | QLIVER / | / | ~ ~~/| / | ~Marcin Landowski _| /_| ~ *_|o|___|___|__@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ \___/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~
hdd troubles
hello.. one of my hdds(my / actually) started to give me problems recently(sector read errors). i ran several fsck's on it, fixed many problems however even after that e2fsck says "file system modified" when it doesn't tell me about any errors. i tried using the -v flag, and using the badblocks program and nothing seems to tell me what is being modified .. i've run e2fsck about 10 times and badblock about 4 times .. is there another program thats more verbose that i could use? runnin potato with 2.2.17. thanks! nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/share and multiple versions
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:26:47AM -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > FYI, from the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.1/fhs-4.7.html: > > Note, however, that /usr/share is generally not intended to be > shared by different OSes or by different releases of the same OS. Thanks! I suspected as much, but didn't think to look there. -- SGI products are used to create the 'Bugs' that entertain us in theatres and at home. - SGI job posting Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P++>+++ L+++> E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: HP LJ III with Jet Direct and Linux
> on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 01:30:11PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I have an old HP Laserjet III with an old JetDirect card in it that I > > have purchaed used. I have to use the parallel port to print to it, > > but would like to use the network card instead. It was configured and > > running on another network, and there is some info to that respect in > > the diagnostic info I can print out. > > > I probably need to reconfigure it, but HP's tools don't detect it. It > > appears to want to use ipx, and I can see it sending stuff out on the > > network. I figured it was a dhcp request, but dhcp doesn't see it. > > Anyone know how to reset/configure these cards or have any ideas of > > things to try? HP has been less than helpful. TIA. > > What's the "status" page show you in terms of networking? Does it tell > you if TCP/IP is configured, or give an IP? IIRC, on the HPLJIII, you > can walk through the menus on the onboard display to set up networking > -- you've got an LED display on the right hand side of the box? > > HP's online info is pretty good. Not awesome, but reasonably decent. > Don't bother IMO with their phone support -- for starters, they never > sold you the system in the first place. > > For one of their older DeskJets, the networking reset keypress was to > restart the printer while holding the "Online" button. The networking info page give me thi info: Novell Ethernet/802.3, firmware revision(A.01.00), node address (HW address), Jumper Select (10Bast-T/LB ON), Linkdeat (Detected), Network No. (Unknown) and Frame Type, Node Name (HOVD1_HUMANREL_HPIII_1), Mode (Queue Server), File Server Name (HOVD-01). Then it says I/O Card Not Ready : 1B and under that Initializing Network Adapter. Then it gives network stats which are all 0. I don't know if it can use TCP/IP from that info. When I hold down the online button when starting the printer, it does a cold boot and resets all the settings on the printer, but none of the JetDirect settings. I've got the LED display on the right side of the printer but haven't found any level of menu that configures the JetDirect card. I've spent hours combing HP's online site and even found the type of card I have. I called them to get a manual, but they are out of print. The info I need may be on their site, but I haven't found it. They have lots of info on it, but it's oranigzed badly. Atleast for me it is. Know of anything else to try? Rob
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Debian site down?
Wondering if anyone else is finding the main Debian site inaccessible this afternoon ... It's been hours since I've been able to pull up the site and I was hoping it was not just me ... Glenn Becker Online Producer, Community SCIFI.COM
Re: Debian site down?
> Wondering if anyone else is finding the main Debian > site inaccessible this afternoon ... > > It's been hours since I've been able to pull up the site > and I was hoping it was not just me ... It appears to be "just you"... ;-) I just checked the site and it's there. Hall
Re: Debian site down?
On Saturday 03 March 2001 15:26, Glenn Becker wrote: > Wondering if anyone else is finding the main Debian site inaccessible > this afternoon ... > > It's been hours since I've been able to pull up the site and I was > hoping it was not just me ... Hmm. I just went right to it -- no apparent problem here... -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
making thumbnails
Hey people. Is there an easy way to make thumbnails for large numbers of images? I'm thinking of Image Magick, but the mogrify -geometry argument doesn't maintain the aspect ratio. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925
Re: manually installing mozilla plugins
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 08:46:20AM -0800, Dave Carrigan wrote: > > Just load it into mozilla. i.e., load the URL > > file:///path/to/jre.xpi > > Mozilla will offer to install the plugin, and do a bunch of stuff then > hang. Then, you get out of mozilla, cd to the plugins directory and > > ln -s java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so . I tried this with the flash plugin, but I can't get mozilla to recognize it. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925
Re: [OT] vmware / boot floppy
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 12:47:51PM -0600, ktb wrote: > I'm trying to set up vmware in order to test debian boot floppys. > VMware installed fine on slink, 2.4.1 kernel. > The problem I'm having is when I try to install potato as a test with > boot.bin I get the message, "Operating system not found" > The virtual bios is set to boot off the floppy. The seek light on the > A drive comes on when I boot in the vmware environment. > > Anyone know how I can get vmware to boot off the floppy? I believe that you actually have to set up an OS for the VM first before it will do anything. Try the configuration wizard. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925
Re: Debian site down?
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 04:26:08PM -0500, Glenn Becker wrote: > > Wondering if anyone else is finding the main Debian site inaccessible > this afternoon ... > > It's been hours since I've been able to pull up the site and I was hoping > it was not just me ... Works for me. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." -- RFC 1925
Re: making thumbnails
On Saturday 03 March 2001 15:32, Michael P. Soulier wrote: > Hey people. Is there an easy way to make thumbnails for large > numbers of images? I'm thinking of Image Magick, but the mogrify > -geometry argument doesn't maintain the aspect ratio. I used to have a python module that would generate thumbnails of a directory full of images and make a gallery html page. It worked great. I think it was called gallery. A search on python.org or freshmeat ought to turn it up. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Sound for onboard VIA chipset?
My motherboard has a builtin sound card using the VIA VT82C686A chipset, but when I try to load sound support with: # modprobe via82cxxx I get the following: /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o: insmod via82cxxx failed Any ideas on how to get this working? I'm running debian 2.2r2 with the prebuilt 2.2.17 kernel. -Jeff
