Re: Frequent download time outs - Solved?

2001-02-08 Thread Jeff Kelm
I have figured out a way to solve my problem.  Using tcpdump I was able
to determine that the problem always occurred when the exchange was
doing SACK (Selective Acknowledgement).  This is a feature turned on by
default in the 2.2.x kernels (actually since 2.1.??).  It is intended
to increase performance in the face of packet loss.  Turning SACK off
has solved the problem.  It also explains some of the variability I
have seen.  Some sites are not SACK compatible, so the download happens
fine.  Some sites do not generate the packet loss problems which start
SACK options being exercised (at least not all the time).  Later, the
same site might be much more congested and start having problems.

The way I turned off SACK is to execute the following (as root):

   echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_sack

Since this has corrected the problem, I have updated
/etc/init.d/networking to include this step.

I am not sure why SACK is not working properly.  At least now I know
what to search for and have found several references on the kernel
mailing list regarding problems seen with SACK implementations.  There
seems to be a good deal of disagreement about whether the problem is in
the linux implementation or the implementation used by various ISP's. 
Since I get these problems trying to download Debian files, I suspect I
am talking linux to linux.  As time permits I will try to troubleshoot
this further and document it with tcpdump output.  For now, I would
like to see if the above fix corrects the problem for others who are
seeing the same timeout problems.

Regards,
   Jeff



Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman

>> Section "Files"
>> RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
>> FontPath "unix/:7101"
>> FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/:unscaled"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
>> FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
>> ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
>> EndSection

Stewart> Ok.  I can leave the unix/:7101 uncommented and it starts x
Stewart> just fine.  The truetype path is what is causing the "can't
Stewart> find default font 'fixed'" error.

Of course.  The X server itself doesn't know iota about True Type.
Only xfstt understands them.  So X gets some kind of error when
processing the truetype line (which shouldn't be there), and never
reads the rest of the paths, including the misc one (which is where
fixed resides).

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Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

2001-02-08 Thread John Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution
> for the display (I think).  In the display section add the line:
> 
>  Virtual 1024 768
> 
> You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however.  See
> man XF86Config.
> 
> -Chris
-REPLY---
 That did it! It is not exactly what I wanted to achieve, but at least
it puts me back to where I was before the upgrade. Now if I can just
figure out how to coordinate a change in resolution with a corresponding
change in virtual screen size. Maybe a virtual display with each
resolution. Any ideas? BTW I did see the reference in the docs, but
did not understand how they applied. The examples were not clear.:-(
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Re: Any experience with new NVIDIA drivers? -- SOLVED!!

2001-02-08 Thread Dr. Aldo Medina
"Dr. Aldo Medina" wrote:
> 
> Dietmar Schultz wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 01:50:50AM -0600, Dr. Aldo Medina wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > (--) NVIDIA(0): Chipset: "RIVA TNT"
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
> > > (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
> > > (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
> > [...]
> > > (--) NVIDIA(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1600)
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1600x1200": 202.5 MHz, 93.8 kHz, 75.0 Hz
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 157.5 MHz, 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 94.5 MHz, 68.7 kHz, 85.0 Hz
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz
> > > (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x400": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 85.1 Hz
> > > (II) NVIDIA(0): Applying EDID constraints on remaining valid modes.
> > > (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual Screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200
> > > (++) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 100)
> > [...]
> >
> > I remember, my brother has a Diamond card based on Riva-TNT chip. He
> > also uses a resloution of 1600x1200 at 32bpp, he don't use 3D things,
> > not even GL-screensavers. But I had tried that and it was painfully
> > slow. Switching back to 1024x786 and 16bpp and speed was fine. I
> > thought 3D on this high resolution and colour depth was to much to
> > handle for this card.
> >
> > Btw, the screensavers running in a small window were fine, tuxracer in
> > a window of 640x480 was playable, too. About 16-20 fps, iirc. The
> > larger the tuxracer window was, the poorer the speed was.
> >
> > Me, having a Geforce2, don't see such problems. Unless I turn full
> > screen antialiasing on...
> >
> > --
> > Bye,
> > Dietmar
> 
> The funny thing is that "hardware" acceleration is about 2-3 times
> slower than "software". Thanks any way, as I seem to remember something
> in my previous machine (PII350, RH 6.2) about recommending using 16-bit
> mode, as this is the accelerated bpp. I will try it and post the
> results. Thank you very much.

Well, that was it. I remembered I read somewhere that NVIDIA's drivers
only supported 16-bpp. I remember how my PII350 slowed almost to freeze
in 24 or 8 bpp, so maybe what I'm watching is my PIII800 being able to
maintain a very slow motion netherless. I tried 16-bpp instead 24-bpp,
and IT WORKED!!!: Now I enjoy blazing speed even at 1600x1200. Thanks to
all that tried to help me. As I side note I rechecked NVIDIA's doc and I
didn't found any reference to this, even as I remember having read it
back to 0.9-1 or 3.

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Re: C++ linking problem

2001-02-08 Thread Moritz Schulte
RAccess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Recently gcc was upgraded on debian testing/woody. Since then I have been
> having trouble compiling (mainly linking) C++ code. Here is the kind of
> error I get:
> 
> g++ try.cpp
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

It seems you don't have the libstdc++...-dev package installed.

moritz
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Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

2001-02-08 Thread virtanen
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, mike polniak wrote:

> You can run> modprobe -l |grep sr_mod 

When I run it (as root of course) I see nothing happening.


> Check that your kernel config has CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m.  This gives you sr_mod.
> And CONFIG_SCSI=m gives you scsi-mod (scsi support).


*How* shall I do this?
Should I do kernel compiling?  

*Where* can I read kernel config?


> Be sure to run> update-modules  

That I have done. 

> 
> This regenerates /etc/modules.conf with your changes to /etc/modutils/aliases
> Now you run> cdrecord -scanbus
> You can check the loaded modules with> lsmod  

I've done many times installing and and installing ide-scsi and
sci-support. 
Now it happens that if try to do this installing (by 'modconf') these
modules (ide-scsi and scsi-support) modconf anwers:

'failed'. (So something has changed in the system.)

Where can I check *how* I can get these modules installed*?  

If I'll do this, it answers now (earlier I managed to get thoise modules
installed): 


fr420:~# lsmod


Module  Size  Used by
lp  5188   0  (autoclean)
lockd  31112   1  (autoclean)
sunrpc 52420   1  (autoclean) [lockd]
af_packet   6040   1  (autoclean)
pcmcia_core44416   0
serial 19564   0  (autoclean)
parport_probe   3332   0
parport_pc  7236   1
parport 7280   1  [lp parport_probe parport_pc]
3c59x  18656   1
unix   10212  17  (autoclean)


So these modules needed failed to install now.

_

What to do next?

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Re: C++ linking problem

2001-02-08 Thread John L . Fjellstad
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:49:15PM -0500, RAccess wrote:
 
> g++ try.cpp
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

There has been messages about this on the mailling list. There is
a bug in the packaging of gcc. You need to create the links for
libstdc++.so and libstdc++.a

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Re: dpkg's files list missing final newline

2001-02-08 Thread Bruce Sass
Hi,

If you don't mind getting your hands dirty...

On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Eric Cheng wrote:
>   Perhaps after an abnormal shutdown the files list file of dpkg was
> damaged. Now I cannot dpkg -i or apt-get install anything. It complained
> about "dpkg: error processing  :
> files list file for package `libgnome-pilot0' is missing final newline". I
> tried to remove this and its dependencies, but it could not remove them.
> Now dpkg is completely broken. Is there any means that I can do to repair
> or recover the files list file?

If that is all that is wrong, add a final newline to
/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgnome-pilot0.list

If the install of a package is severely messed up:
1) remove any files listed in /var/lib/dpkg/info/.list that
   do not belong to any other package (use "dpkg -S " if
   you can, "grep  *.list" otherwise).
2) look at the /var/lib/dpkg/info/.{pre,post}rm scripts to
   see what specials need to be done
3) do "rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/.*"
4) edit the packages entries from /var/lib/dpkg/{available,status}
it will be like dpkg never installed it.

If you think the files list file is truncated you can use
"ar -x *.deb" on the .deb to get at the data tarball, which
will let you see what was placed on the file system.

Maybe you can get away with fixing the list file, doing "dpkg --purge
", and manually removing any files not in the list file.

HTH


- Bruce



Re: network problem

2001-02-08 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Chris Parker wrote: 

> Stats: running 2.2.12 on p133 w/48ram
> Kingston pci model kne100tx using tulip module
> on cablemodem surfboard4100
> 
> I can ping self but when i ping anywhere else it says that the network is 
> unreachable.  Get siocaddr invalid.  How to fix so I can get online?  It also 
> says when running lynx host is unreachable./can't find host or no dns?

It sounds like your module is not loaded. Check with /sbin/lsmod if
the tulip-module is loaded and with ifconfig, if your card is up.
Phil



Apache.deb vs apache-ssl.deb

2001-02-08 Thread Christopher Wolf

Is the Apache-ssl.deb a drop in replacement for Apache.deb?



Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

2001-02-08 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, virtanen wrote:


> I've done many times installing and and installing ide-scsi and
> sci-support. 

This should have been of course: 'installing and uninstalling' 


> Now it happens that if try to do this installing (by 'modconf') these
> modules (ide-scsi and scsi-support) modconf anwers:
> 
> 'failed'. (So something has changed in the system.)

The whole answer is this:



Installing module ide-scsi. If the device isn't there, or isn't configured
correctly, this could cause your system to pause for up to a minute.

modprobe: Can't locate module ide-cd
modprobe: pre-install ide-scsi failed
modprobe: insmod ide-scsi failed

Installation failed.

Please press ENTER when you are ready to continue.

_

So, where can I find that 'module ide-cd' (to get that one installed)?

Because that might be the problem, which has to be solved first.
(Earlier in my system it was no problem so install ide-scsi, do I have
changed something quite basic during trying to get that cdburner working.) 

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debian 2.2 with 8 meg ?

2001-02-08 Thread thomas . krepkowski
Hi!

I have an old, lonely 486 with 8 MB and want to use it for Linux.
Is there any chance to use debian 2.2 on it.
I read in the installation manual, that it needs 12 MB.

Thanks

Thomas

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Re: installation on an abit KT7-RAID motherboard

2001-02-08 Thread Patrick Cheong Shu Yang
Boot with your hardisk attached to the ide first then recompile the
kernel to support the promise ultra ata100/raid architecturethen
halt the box and switch you hardisk over to the promise ultra
ata100/raid controller...HTHYMMV though

Luquet Pierre-Sylvain wrote:

> hello ,I'm trying to install a potato on my new computer based on an
> abit KT7-RAID (an ATA100 controller) motherboard with a tb900Mz.When I
> boot with the default floppy, I have troubles because I have no disk
> on my IDE bus, but only on the HPT370 (wich manage ATA100 disk and the
> RAID API). So, I think I have to use a boot image with driver fot this
> controller but I don't no where to find a floppy image with this
> driver (if she exist). So, If you could help me ;-)) Luquet
> Pierre-SylvainFrench student



Raid

2001-02-08 Thread Roso Giuseppe \(Beppe\)
GoodMorning.
I have a request: What about configuring RAID disks under Debian/GNU Linux 
to read a vfat fs?
I didn't see this system, one friend asked me. I asked him if he installed
driver for RAID card, raid system from kernel, raidtools etc.. He did. The
only problem is that he can't read files names in this partition (Fat32).
Any suggestion?

Thanks for any help.

Beppe 




Memory/cpu quoatas for users

2001-02-08 Thread Mike Moran

Hi. I am looking for a way to limit the amount of memory and cpu used by
the apache
daemon, since the web machine is very resource-limited. I know I can
reduce the
maximum number of servers, but that doesn't limit usage by each server.
Perhaps a
default "nice" level would also help. How do you set the default nice
for a user?

The thing is, would either of these stop something like a while(true)
loop, which allocated memory? I've been making some changes to the
apache daemon mod_perl setup recently and I end up being locked out
because something swamps out the system. I get `half-connects' where,
for instance, ssh/telnet connects but then just sits there until it
times out. This sounds exactly like a thrashing problem. I had a top
running and kswapd
seemed to be the last thing I saw before it hung.

Maybe this is a kernel level thing? Is there something like a
high-watermark process killer that I could use, ie something which
started rampaging around when memory usage crept above a certain level?

Note that I think the problem will probably settle out once I've stopped
making so many
changes to the apache setup but, for now, it is a pain to have to ask
for my machine to be
powercycled. Regardless, it would be nice to know I have a safety net,
just in case.

Thanks,

--
Mike



exim keeps posting to the wrong place

2001-02-08 Thread Anthony Campbell
I run a crontab script every night to make glimpseindex and to back up
my system. This posts  records of its efforts. They used to go to me via
local mail and appear in my mail box each morning. Now they still do
this but the system insists on sending them to me via my ISP
instead of internally. I suspect this is something to do with my
/etc/exim.conf but I don't know what.

How can I get back to the original method?

I've tried sending them to /dev/null instead but that doesn't work
either.

Anthony



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Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread Pietro Cagnoni
> So I commented out the first two FontPath lines and KDE started just fine.  I
> can get the True Type fonts working after KDE is running, but now there are
> no options for point size in Netscape.  The fonts are there but I only get an
> option of 0 for the size.

use xfs-xtt instead of xfstt. much nicer rendering in netscape, and
you'll get the right height for textfields too.
you will probably need the fttools package.

helpful page: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf

hope it helps!

pietro.



GPL versus LGPL ?

2001-02-08 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
Could someone breafly explain me what are the main differences between a GPL 
and a LGPL licence?
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Re: i810 in testing

2001-02-08 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya glenn..

what kind of i180 testing are you doing/planning todo ???

if get X11 up and running...for i810 or i815 chip sets...

w/ XFree-3.3.x  you do need that agpgart and XFCom_i810 driver
w/ XFree-4.x   i think it works out of the box
5 minutes work or so to get X11 up and about...

what out for /etc/X11/X  and /usr/X11R6/bin/X
( make sure it points to the right places )

have not tested under debian...but works okay/reasonable on
the other guys boxes..

have fun
alvin
http://www.linux-1U.net ...


On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Glenn Becker wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm strongly considering switching over to Debian at work ... but my
> machine here has one of those evilish Intel i810 video jobs ... any
> reports of success or failure with this chip and X in testing?
> 
> I found a few things in the list archives but they were sort of
> inconclusive as far as testing goes. I don't mind fiddling with box, but
> here it's time sensitive as I have graphics work to do. So ... fiddlin'
> time is at a premium.
> 
> Experience tells me getting this hardware to work with older versions of
> XFree requires the download and installation of a module by the name of
> agpgart.o ... I never had a whole lot of luck with it ...
> 
> Thx,
> 
> Glenn
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Re: exim keeps posting to the wrong place - SOLVED

2001-02-08 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 08 Feb 2001, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I run a crontab script every night to make glimpseindex and to back up
> my system. This posts  records of its efforts. They used to go to me via
> local mail and appear in my mail box each morning. Now they still do
> this but the system insists on sending them to me via my ISP
> instead of internally. I suspect this is something to do with my
> /etc/exim.conf but I don't know what.
> 
> How can I get back to the original method?
> 
> I've tried sending them to /dev/null instead but that doesn't work
> either.
> 

I think I've just found the answer; in /etc/exim.conf I've put:

qualify_domain = localhost

I hope this is right.

Anthony


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Re: Newbie questions

2001-02-08 Thread Tor Slettnes
> "Mark" == Mark L Kahnt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Mark> Yeah, but I don't want an ftp user possibly finding a
Mark> security hole and playing around with my mouse.

Don't run 'wu-ftpd'. :-)

Seriously, if there is a security hole in your FTP server, chances are
that they allow remote root access.   As has the case been with
wu-ftpd on numerous occasions.

No chmod will protect you from that.  Your mouse being moved will then
be the least of your worries - though you may never know that your
system has been cracked.

(RedHat 6.1 and 6.2 users, for instance, are prime targets due to the
horribly insecure system they are running, in conjunction with the
average IQ of said users).

-tor



Re: GPL versus LGPL ?

2001-02-08 Thread Roso Giuseppe \(Beppe\)


On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:

> Could someone breafly explain me what are the main differences between a GPL 
> and a LGPL licence?
> -- 

LGPL is a bit restricted version of GPL: often LGPL is
applied to opensource software (like software under GPL or similar
licenses) but this software requires tools/libraries that are under other
licenses that are not similar to GPL.

Good Morning

  Beppe

PS: Sorry for my english



Re: Memory/cpu quoatas for users

2001-02-08 Thread Erdmut Pfeifer
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 09:35:21AM +, Mike Moran wrote:
> 
> Hi. I am looking for a way to limit the amount of memory and cpu used by
> the apache
> daemon, since the web machine is very resource-limited. I know I can
> reduce the
> maximum number of servers, but that doesn't limit usage by each server.

if you are using mod_perl, then you might want to use one of the
modules Apache::SizeLimit or Apache::GTopLimit, which are dedicated to
automatically killing excessively growing apache child processes.

You'll find them on CPAN:

http://search.cpan.org

Also, you might want to browse the archives of the mod_perl mailing
list. Excessive memory usage and how to deal with it is one of the
topics that keep popping up there regularly ;)

http://perl.apache.org/#maillists

Good luck,
Erdmut


> Perhaps a
> default "nice" level would also help. How do you set the default nice
> for a user?
> 
> The thing is, would either of these stop something like a while(true)
> loop, which allocated memory? I've been making some changes to the
> apache daemon mod_perl setup recently and I end up being locked out
> because something swamps out the system. I get `half-connects' where,
> for instance, ssh/telnet connects but then just sits there until it
> times out. This sounds exactly like a thrashing problem. I had a top
> running and kswapd
> seemed to be the last thing I saw before it hung.
> 
> Maybe this is a kernel level thing? Is there something like a
> high-watermark process killer that I could use, ie something which
> started rampaging around when memory usage crept above a certain level?
> 
> Note that I think the problem will probably settle out once I've stopped
> making so many
> changes to the apache setup but, for now, it is a pain to have to ask
> for my machine to be
> powercycled. Regardless, it would be nice to know I have a safety net,
> just in case.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Mike
> 
> 
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Re: Potato and kernel 2.4

2001-02-08 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Morten Bo Johansen, 
> I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link
> explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4
> kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages
> (e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system..

Since no-one else has provided a step-by-step guide, I've give it a go
based on what I did.

Some of this you will already know, but I'm trying to be complete!

NB: `*' used when I couldn't be bothered finding out what the file was
actually called. Tab-completion is your friend here!

1) Download the kernel

% wget http://your.kernel.mirror/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2

2) Unpack it into the directory you want to build it


% tar xIvpf linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 /usr/src

3) Download the ac patches if you are adventurous and/or have issues
that they help resolve.

% wget
% http://your.kernel.mirror/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/patch-2.4.1-ac2.bz2

4) Apply any patches

% cd linux ; bzcat ~/downloads/patch-2.4.1-ac2.bz2 | patch -p 1

5) Build your kernel

% make menuconfig

% make kpkg-clean ; fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image

6) Download any extra bits and pieces you need. You at least need
modutils-2.4.x, and may need reiserfsprogs and/or devfsd. You will
probably need to get these from sid and compile them yourself, so:

6a) Add:

deb-src http://your.debian.mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free

to your /etc/apt/sources.list

6b) Download and build your needed apps:

% apt-get source modutils
% cd modutils-2.4.*
% debian/rules binary

6c) Install your new packages

# dpkg --install ../modutils*.deb

7) Install your kernel

# dpkg --install kernel_image*.deb

8) Double check that you have a sane /etc/lilo.conf

9) Cross your fingers and re-boot.

That should be all you need to do, although getting the right options in
the new kernel can take a bit of work, so be prepared to compile it a
few times (I think I did it about 8 times before I got everything I
wanted, and then 2.4.1 was out!) Also be aware that it seems to take a
lot longer to compile that older kernels do.

On an up-to-date potato, I suspect that modutils is really all you have
to upgrade (maybe ppp, if you use it, I don't, so I don't know).
Building the source packages from sid is quick and easy, however, so go
nuts. I don't believe you have to do anything silly like upgrade gcc.

Please note that all this is off the top of my head, so corrections are
welcome, and YMMV.

cheers,

damon

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Re: XMMS, esd, and 2.4 kernel?

2001-02-08 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth Richard Black, 
> I haven't been able to get a sound out of anything that uses esd (e.g. with
> xmms) since I upgraded to 2.4.0.  I can play sound from xmms directly to alsa
> (at least, I think that is what I'm doing :-)) when I am root, but that is it.

While my esd is still working, sound from it has suddenly become very
crap, all choppy and distorted. I think this happened about the time I
upgraded to 2.4/X4/testing (all at once, so I don't know what did it).

Playing sound without esd is still fine. I've got xmms on the oss output
plugin, and am still enjoying my mp3 collection.

So while I haven't added anything constructive to the thread, I'll `me
too' on the presence of problems!

cheers,

damon

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Re: wmmon in potato?

2001-02-08 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth kmself@ix.netcom.com, 
> ...I'm jus' lookin' for a good wmmon
> 
> Anyone know what the status of wmmon under potato is?  It currently
> depends on a couple of libs (xpm4g and another) which conflict with
> xlibs.  Rats.  I can build from source, probably will.

I have to admit that I can't remember exactly what wmmon monitors. and
you're probably using wmaker, for which something like that is most
appropriate...

But you might want to consider looking at gkrellm. Sort of like all of
the monitor-type programs (mail, cpu, disk, network, mem, and more) on
steroids. Also very themeable.

The version in potato is a little old. I believe there might be a more
recent one on unstable.

Sorry, it didn't answer your question, but if you check it out you might
like it :)

cheers,

damon

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Re: debian 2.2 with 8 meg ?

2001-02-08 Thread Damon Muller
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
> I have an old, lonely 486 with 8 MB and want to use it for Linux.
> Is there any chance to use debian 2.2 on it.
> I read in the installation manual, that it needs 12 MB.

I've installed, and happily run, potato on a 486 with 8M of RAM (an old
notebook, for which a ram upgrade is difficult). It works, but I hope
you're a very patient man to survive the install.

dselect and dpkg are woefull on low mem systems. Expect to wait an hour
or more for the selection of files to come up in dselect. Expect dpkg to
crash a few times whilst installing stuff.

dpkg does seem to have a lowmem option (or something like that), which
helps. It may be possible to force dselect to use it, but I don't know
how (try man dselect?).

In short, it worked for me. It runs fine when it finally gets going (I
only use mine in text-mode), but I'd highly recomend compiling a much
leaner kernel than the debian default.

cheers,

damon

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Re: Oracle 8i ProC and Debian Potato

2001-02-08 Thread Stan Brown
I'm sure you are trying to be helpful, bit it's getting to be pretty anoying.

This is the 4th mesage I have recived from yu, with only my orignal post quoted,
and no added content atl all!

Please get a mailer that works!

On Thu Feb  8 04:51:10 2001 unix,inc. wrote...
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: ""J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: "Debian User List" 
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Oracle 8i ProC and Debian Potato
>
>
>> On Wed Feb  7 17:03:53 2001 "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote...
>> >
>> >On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 14:16:36 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
>> >> bad news, _Lot's_ of erors. The firs one is failing to find stddef.h,
>tehn
>> >> stdarg.h ... and so on.
>> >>
>> >> What am I doing wrong here?
>> >
>> >You've probably forgotten to install libc6-dev which contains these
>headers.
>> >If not, you'll have to provide more details (e.g. a script(1) transcript
>of
>> >a compilation attempt).
>> >
>>
>> Well, dselect has libc6-dev marked as installed. I was hopeful it was that
>> simple. It's reproducable on 2 different systems, that I just built, so it
>must
>> be some mistake I am making.
>>
>> Here's a bit of a typescript.
>>
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/precomp/demo/proc$ make -f *mk sample1
>> make -f /usr/oracle/precomp/demo/proc/demo_proc.mk OBJS=sample1.o
>EXE=sample1 build
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/oracle/precomp/demo/proc'
>> proc  iname=sample1
>>
>> Pro*C/C++: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Tue Feb 6 20:56:20 2001
>>
>> (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
>>
>> System default option values taken from:
>/usr/oracle/precomp/admin/pcscfg.cfg
>>
>> Error at line 33, column 11 in file /usr/include/stdio.h
>> # include 
>> ..1
>> PCC-S-02015, unable to open include file
>> Error at line 38, column 11 in file /usr/include/stdio.h
>> # include 
>> ..1
>>
>> As you can see I have (at least) missing include files.
>>
>> What else can I check?
>>
>> --
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>> --
>> Windows 98: n.
>> useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
>> a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>> originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
>> company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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kernel 2.4 & iptables Q

2001-02-08 Thread Bostjan Muller
Hi!

I have just compiled 2.4.1 kernel on my potato box and set up iptables
firewall, but I am having some problems. I used to have a few ipchains rules,
that contained the -t (tos) flags. Iptables also supports --tos, but I cannot
make it work.
A rule with -tos 0x10 returns:
Bad argument `0x10'

Does anyone know how exactly (the whole rule) to implement this -tos parameter?

Thx in advance!

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Re: kernel 2.4 & iptables Q

2001-02-08 Thread Sebastian Moerchen


Bostjan Muller wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have just compiled 2.4.1 kernel on my potato box and set up iptables
> firewall, but I am having some problems. I used to have a few ipchains rules,
> that contained the -t (tos) flags. Iptables also supports --tos, but I cannot
> make it work.
> A rule with -tos 0x10 returns:
> Bad argument `0x10'
> 
> Does anyone know how exactly (the whole rule) to implement this -tos > 
> parameter?

Might it be that you did not compile the right module into your kernel?
Look at the corresponding section in "make menuconfig".

so far,


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Re: How to change the IP of a Debian box

2001-02-08 Thread garyjones
At Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:37:19 + (WET) , Pedro Quaresma de Almeida <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>How do I change the IP/name of the machine?

Like the other guys said, but it is worth remembering that you are
really changing the IP address of the interface (eth0, eth1, whatever), not the 
machine.

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Re: kernel 2.4 & iptables Q

2001-02-08 Thread Bostjan Muller
* On 08-02-01 at 13:00 Sebastian Moerchen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
+Here quoted text begins+
> Might it be that you did not compile the right module into your kernel?
> Look at the corresponding section in "make menuconfig".
> 
> so far,
> 
> 
> -- 
> ---
>  Sebastian Moerchen, Giessen, Deutschland
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+and here the quote ends+
Nope, checked the kernel config again.. everything is compiled in correctly.

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Sig 11 in X4.02 using Matrox G450

2001-02-08 Thread Damon Muller
Hi gang,

After having bought a spanking-new Matrox G540 video card, I'm not able
to get it to use drm/dri for accelerated 3d. This is mildly annoying, as
I went and bought myself an expensive video-card so I could see the cool
OpenGL XScreensaver hacks!

I'm using X4.02 from testing (as of tonight), but the same happens with
the same packaged built for potato. If I run it in 24-bit depth, X
starts fine, but there is an error message in the logs saying it'll only
do hardward-accelerated drm in 16bpp (why do I have 32 #%^! megs
of ram in my video card if I can only do 3d in 16bpp!?!)

Anyway, when I try and launch in 16bpp (ie., startx -- -depth 16), it
tries, and crashes out, saying:

(II) MGA(0): [drm] Sarea 2176+624: 2800
Module called exit() function with value=1

Fatal server error:
Caught signal 11.  Server aborting

The full log is attached to the end of this message.

BTW, this is using the mga_drv.o module from the Matrox site (the
standard X4 one does not work with the G450).

Can anyone offer any suggestions? I'd hate to have to use my old Voodoo3
and confine this cool new card to my (ew!) windoze box!

cheers,

damon

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XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400)
Release Date: 18 December 2000
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF] 
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Thu Feb  8 23:23:41 2001
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown.
(==) ServerLayout "Default Layout"
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor"
(**) |   |-->Device "Generic Video Card"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse"
(**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100"
(==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(--) using VT number 7

(WW) Cannot open APM
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0598 card , rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8598 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0586 card 1106, rev 41 class 06,01,00 hdr 80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3040 card , rev 10 class 06,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1011,0019 card , rev 21 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 11ad,0002 card 1385,f004 rev 20 class 02,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 9004,6178 card , rev 01 class 01,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 102b,0525 card 102b,0641 rev 82 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is cleared)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1  0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
  

Re: wmmon in potato?

2001-02-08 Thread kmself
on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:09:03PM +1100, Damon Muller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Quoth kmself@ix.netcom.com, 
> > ...I'm jus' lookin' for a good wmmon
> > 
> > Anyone know what the status of wmmon under potato is?  It currently
> > depends on a couple of libs (xpm4g and another) which conflict with
> > xlibs.  Rats.  I can build from source, probably will.
> 
> I have to admit that I can't remember exactly what wmmon monitors. and
> you're probably using wmaker, for which something like that is most
> appropriate...
> 
> But you might want to consider looking at gkrellm. Sort of like all of
> the monitor-type programs (mail, cpu, disk, network, mem, and more) on
> steroids. Also very themeable.
> 
> The version in potato is a little old. I believe there might be a more
> recent one on unstable.
> 
> Sorry, it didn't answer your question, but if you check it out you might
> like it :)

Looks as if development of wmmon has stopped.  The link to the
development page from the Dock Applications Warehouse page and Freshmeat
indicates the developer is AWOL.

Basically, it gave CPU, memory + swap, and disk I/O as three separate
displays.  Mem/swap also provided uptime.  I've settled on wmSMPmon,
designed for SMP support, for the time being as a replacement.  Looks
the part and does most of the job.

I've looked at gkrelm, but it's not as eminantly wmakerish as I'd like.
I've got 64-square tiles I can pretty much dump anything into -- that's
sufficiently modular for my needs.

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Re: KDE2

2001-02-08 Thread wujf
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:44:25AM +1100, Renai wrote:
> 
> 
> and secondly, Red Hat has a boot utility named 'SysVinit' for managing
> the bootup services. Does Debian have anything similar?

man update-rc.d

Good Luck!



Re: GPL versus LGPL ?

2001-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
"Roso Giuseppe (Beppe)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
>> Could someone breafly explain me what are the main differences between
>> a GPL and a LGPL licence?
>
>LGPL is a bit restricted version of GPL: often LGPL is
>applied to opensource software (like software under GPL or similar
>licenses) but this software requires tools/libraries that are under other
>licenses that are not similar to GPL.

It can go the other way too; if programs not covered by the GPL want to
use an LGPLed library, they can do so, whereas they couldn't do so if
the library were GPLed. (This was the original purpose of the LGPL: see
glibc, for instance.)

  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html

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Re: kernel 2.4 & iptables Q

2001-02-08 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 12:23:50PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have just compiled 2.4.1 kernel on my potato box and set up iptables
> firewall, but I am having some problems. I used to have a few ipchains
> rules, that contained the -t (tos) flags. Iptables also supports --tos,
> but I cannot make it work.
> A rule with -tos 0x10 returns:
> Bad argument `0x10'

Typo check: '--tos' != '-tos'.. which one did you try?

And you did try something like this, right? That '-m tos' is easy to
forget.

iptables -A INPUT -m tos --tos 0x10 ?


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kerneld and 'Kernel module loader'

2001-02-08 Thread Pascal THIVENT
Hello,
 
I build a new kernel v2.2.17. I choosed to enabeld the 'Kernel module
loader' in the 'Loadable module support' section while make config.
I took a look at Documentation/kmod.txt and found that enabling this feature
doesn't need the kerneld anymore.
Then, I boot my new kernel and saw a message saying that I shouldn't use the
kerneld.
I agree with that but where can I disabled this feature ?
 
Thanks,

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E-commerce

2001-02-08 Thread Aleš Jerman



Does anybody know a good E-commerce solution for Debian?
I need something for about 30 products, something that is simple for use, 
that is sicure and that would run well on CPU 200Mhz, RAM 32MB.
Thank you!
Bye,
 
Aleš Jerman


Re: keeping a process running?

2001-02-08 Thread Michael A. Miller
> "Tibor" == Tibor D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Maybe "run" is what you're looking for?

I haven't been able to find that in the packages - what package
is that a part of? 



Re: keeping a process running?

2001-02-08 Thread David Wright
Quoting kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com):
> on Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 11:09:04AM -0500, Michael A. Miller ([EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Can anyone suggest a way to monitor a process and restart it if
> > it stops?  I seem to remember some discussion about this on
> > debian-user, but I haven't been able to track it down in the
> > archives.
> 
> while :
> do
> 
> done

I think the discussion concerned using inittab, and was more
specifically about whether it was easy to change the ownership
of such processes from root (if that helps find it).

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Re: kernel 2.4 & iptables Q

2001-02-08 Thread Bostjan Muller
* On 08-02-01 at 13:50 Tommi Komulainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
+Here quoted text begins+
 
> Typo check: '--tos' != '-tos'.. which one did you try?
> 
> And you did try something like this, right? That '-m tos' is easy to
> forget.
> 
> iptables -A INPUT -m tos --tos 0x10 ?
> 
> 
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+and here the quote ends+
Yess!! That was it.. I did not include -m tos !! Thank you!

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(no subject)

2001-02-08 Thread Viktor Sergeichik

help



Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

2001-02-08 Thread mike polniak
virtanen wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, virtanen wrote:
> 
> 
> > I've done many times installing and and installing ide-scsi and
> > sci-support. 
> 
> This should have been of course: 'installing and uninstalling' 
> 
> 
> > Now it happens that if try to do this installing (by 'modconf') these
> > modules (ide-scsi and scsi-support) modconf anwers:
> > 
> > 'failed'. (So something has changed in the system.)
> 
> The whole answer is this:
> 
> 
> 
> Installing module ide-scsi. If the device isn't there, or isn't configured
> correctly, this could cause your system to pause for up to a minute.
> 
> modprobe: Can't locate module ide-cd
> modprobe: pre-install ide-scsi failed
> modprobe: insmod ide-scsi failed
> 
> Installation failed.
> 
> Please press ENTER when you are ready to continue.
> 
> _
> 
> So, where can I find that 'module ide-cd' (to get that one installed)?
> 
> Because that might be the problem, which has to be solved first.
> (Earlier in my system it was no problem so install ide-scsi, do I have
> changed something quite basic during trying to get that cdburner working.) 
> 
Perhaps the idecd is installed into the kernel and is not a module.
You can check your kernel configuration in  /boot/version/config.
That will tell what is configured as a module(=m) and what is 
compiled directly into the kernel(=y).So check for the following:

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD
CONFIG_SCSI
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR

IF you previously loaded ide-scsi and sg modules then they are ok.
If IDECD is not a module then that causes the modprobe failed messages.
So you can remove the 2 lines in /etc/modutils/aliases that refer
to ide-cd. But now you must tell the kernel to use scsi before ide by
adding a line to /etc/lilo.conf :  append="hdc=ide-scsi" and run lilo.

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~~~



Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread Rick Loga
You don't say which version of XFree you are using.  Version 4 needs the xfs v. 
4 font server.  None of the other font servers work.  If you're version 3, any 
of the font servers work.

--- Pietro Cagnoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> So I commented out the first two FontPath lines and KDE started just fine.  I
>> can get the True Type fonts working after KDE is running, but now there are
>> no options for point size in Netscape.  The fonts are there but I only get an
>> option of 0 for the size.
>
>use xfs-xtt instead of xfstt. much nicer rendering in netscape, and
>you'll get the right height for textfields too.
>you will probably need the fttools package.
>
>helpful page: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
>
>hope it helps!
>
>pietro.
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dselect does not offer CD as an install choice, why?

2001-02-08 Thread Stan Brown
I am trying to set up a new Debian potato machine for use at work, where I
live behind a _very_ restricitve firewall.

I did the inital install at home using ftp, and took it to work, only to
find out I had failed to install some needed packages. So I ordered the
Offical Debina 2.2 CD set from CheapBytes (good service there). Problem is
now when I go inot dselect and take choice 1, I am not offered the choice
of installing from the CD's. 

I have tried this both with, and witout one of teh CD's mounted.

What have I done wrong?

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Re: exim keeps posting to the wrong place - SOLVED

2001-02-08 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 10:20:20AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I think I've just found the answer; in /etc/exim.conf I've put:
> 
> qualify_domain = localhost
> 
> I hope this is right.

Close, but not quite.  You want qualify_domain set to you ISP's domain amd
qualify_recipient set to localhost.  If qualify_domain is localhost, then
some mail may get to the outside world with a return address of
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Re: GPL versus LGPL ?

2001-02-08 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:09:05AM +0100, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
> Could someone breafly explain me what are the main differences between a GPL 
> and a LGPL licence?

GPL:  If your program links to GPL code, you must provide source to the whole
thing so that other people can edit any part and recompile it.

LGPL:  If your program links to LGPL code, you must provide unlinked binaries
and linking instructions for the whole thing so that other people can edit
the LGPL code and relink it.  Distributing the source of any non-LGPL
portions is optional.

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Re: C++ linking problem

2001-02-08 Thread RAccess
On 8 Feb 2001, Moritz Schulte wrote:

> RAccess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Recently gcc was upgraded on debian testing/woody. Since then I have been
> > having trouble compiling (mainly linking) C++ code. Here is the kind of
> > error I get:
> >
> > g++ try.cpp
> > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> It seems you don't have the libstdc++...-dev package installed.
>
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I do have that package installed. Thats the first thing I checked when I
noticed this problem.

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Re: C++ linking problem

2001-02-08 Thread RAccess
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, John L . Fjellstad wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:49:15PM -0500, RAccess wrote:
>
> > g++ try.cpp
> > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lstdc++
> > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
> There has been messages about this on the mailling list. There is
> a bug in the packaging of gcc. You need to create the links for
> libstdc++.so and libstdc++.a

Thanks. I would do that. Now if I could only have my hands on those old
posts. :) I will look in the archive. ;)

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Unidentified subject!

2001-02-08 Thread David Nowak
Hello,

I have installed the package inn.  And I have started innd with its initial
configuration.  But it does not open a connection on the port nntp (119) as I
thought.  I guess I have a line to add in /etc/inetd.conf.  What is this line?

I also tried the package inn2.  I have the same problem and another one: 
innwatch requires that the field domain in inn.conf to be filled.  But I
have nothing to put in this field as I have no domain name.  What should I do?

Thank for your help,

-- 
David



Re: dselect does not offer CD as an install choice, why?

2001-02-08 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi Stan,

> Problem is now when I go inot dselect and take choice 1, I am not
> offered the choice of installing from the CD's.

Which choices *are* you offered. I get cdrom as the first option. Another
candidate would be apt, if it's there. Try putting the CDs in (no need to
mount them) and issuing 'apt-cdrom add'. This should put them into your
aprt sources.list. Then select 'apt' as access metod from dselect.

HTH,

  Manuel



RE: Infinite sevens: MBR problems

2001-02-08 Thread Peter Howell
Thanks for the advice.  I put "linear" in and rebooted with no 
change.  Then of course I remembered to run lilo.  (Haven't had my coffee yet.)


When I run LILO, I get the following errors.

debian:~# lilo
hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51  { DriveReady SeekComplete Error  }
hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04  { DriveStatusError  }
hda: read_intr: status=0x59  { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error  }
hda: read_intr: status=0x04  { DriveStatusError  }
hda: status error: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: drive not ready for command
Warning:  /dev/hdc1 is not on the first disk
Added Linux *
Skipping /vmlinuz.old
debian:~#


I get the impression from this that lilo is trying to do something with the 
first drive, which on the PC110 is  a 4MB internal flashram drive.  Here is 
my current lilo.conf, sans comments.


linear
boot=/dev/hdc1
root=/dev/hdc1
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
delay=50
vga=normal
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=LinuxOLD
read-only
optional




It appeared that despite the errors, it was installing on hdc, so 
I went ahead and rebooted.  I still getting "LI" and then it hangs.  :-(


Thanks for the help.  I feel like I'm close.

Peter


At 12:53 PM 2/7/01 -0500, you wrote:

My documentation indicates that if you see LI at the prompt and then the
process hangs, the second stage boot loader was loaded properly but can't be
executed.

Try adding the word "linear" to the global portion of the /etc/lilo.conf
file.

Re-run LILO --> /sbin/lilo

Then reboot


This is interesting, let us know what works

John



-Original Message-
From: brian moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:38 PM
To: Debian-User@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Infinite sevens: MBR problems


On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 12:18:59PM -0500, Peter Howell wrote:
>  On a side note, I went into the bios and altered the boot
> order.  Now when I boot, it just prints:
>
> LI
>
>  and then stops.  From what I've been able to find, this has to do

> with problems in the mapping of the drive.   I edited /etc/lilo.conf and
> commented out the LBA switch, since this is only a 260MB drive.   I then
> ran lilo and rebooted.  Unfortunately, that didn't fix it.
>
> Whenever I run lilo I get the warning that hdc is not the first
> drive.  Could this be my problem?  The BIOS allows me to boot off it
> in DOS.

Yes.  That very well could be the problem.

LILO complains about the same thing for me on one of my home machines
(which has a nice fast SCSI for 'real' stuff and huge IDE drives for
mp3's and other piggy stuff where size matters more than speed... :)).
The way SCSI inserts itself into the boot chain annoys LILO (and hurts
my head anyway... it's REALLY bizarre trying to convince the bios to
boot a bootable CD on a scsi drive...)

What happens on my home system if I ignore the warnings is that the BIOS
will gladly load the LILO mbr off the hard drive, but when that mbr
tries to read the kernel, it ends up looking at the IDE drive... which
doesn't have it.

Anyway, there are some little-used options in LILO to get around this
and to convince the BIOS what to do.  Look specifically at the 'disk='
section of the lilo.conf man page.  You'll probably need to convince
LILO of the actual ordering of devices by the BIOS.

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pppd problem with 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Tom George
I compiled 2.4.1 and tried to sign on the internet.  pppd sent a string 
that caused the connection to fail.  I reloaced 2.2.12 and signed on 
with no difficulty in order to send this message.  Any ideas?




Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread mike polniak
Rick Loga wrote:
> You don't say which version of XFree you are using.  Version 4 needs the xfs 
> v. 4 font server.  None of the other font servers work.  If you're version 3, 
> any of the font servers work.
> 
> --- Pietro Cagnoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> So I commented out the first two FontPath lines and KDE started just fine. 
> >>  I
> >> can get the True Type fonts working after KDE is running, but now there are
> >> no options for point size in Netscape.  The fonts are there but I only get 
> >> an
> >> option of 0 for the size.
> >
> >use xfs-xtt instead of xfstt. much nicer rendering in netscape, and
> >you'll get the right height for textfields too.
> >you will probably need the fttools package.
> >
> >helpful page: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf

I use XFree86-4 with the xfs-xtt font server. I have tried other
ways and  xfs-xtt gives the best results of any in netscape.

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Re: pppd problem with 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Hall Stevenson
> I compiled 2.4.1 and tried to sign on the internet.  pppd
> sent a string that caused the connection to fail.  I
> reloaced 2.2.12 and signed on with no difficulty in order
> to send this message.  Any ideas?

You need a specific, updated version of pppd to work with kernels 2.4.x.
All the updated/required packages are detailed in the "changes" (or is
it "Changes") file included with the kernel.

Regards
Hall



Re: mozilla, ssl, java, and other fun stuff

2001-02-08 Thread christophe barbe
And mozilla 0.8 should be available really soon...

On mer, 07 fév 2001 22:02:18 christophe barbe wrote:
> I like debian. But there's is a big lack today in potato : no free www
> browser (I mean open-source and not buggy : ie not netscape) with java and
> ssl support.
> But it's a pity because mozilla is out with all required stuff. But we are
> still (in potato) with the M18-3 release. Today the 0.7 is out. This
> release contains for the first time ssl support. Java is also available via
> blackdown (should this java considered as free ?).
> 
> So I've add the j2re1.3 deb package and downloaded the mozilla binaries
> tarball. Normally to enable java in this mozilla release you only need to
> add a link between  /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/javaplugin.so and (path to
> mozilla)/plugin/javaplugin.so. But then when I start mozilla I obtain:
> 
> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: Could not load
> /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/libjavaplugin_oji.so: linking
> error=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/libjavaplugin_oji.so: undefined symbol:
> gdk_input_add
> 
> I use a daily snapshot of mozilla so I've tested that with the official 0.7
> release and I got the same result so I think it could be a dependancy
> problem. Should I install others packages (dev packages ?).
> 
> Christophe
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Sound card ESS Maestro

2001-02-08 Thread Francois Fayard
Hi,

I'va got a potato installed on a DELL Latitude laptop computer.
This computer has a ESS Maestro (Sound Blaster emulation) sound card.

Could you tell me how I configure it ?

Thanks
Francois



Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread Hall Stevenson
> > >helpful page: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
>
> I use XFree86-4 with the xfs-xtt font server. I have tried other
> ways and  xfs-xtt gives the best results of any in netscape.

I followed the directions on the page above and got the results shown
here with Netscape:
http://www.mindspring.com/~hallstevenson/files/screenshot-012801.jpg

I'm using *only* the built-in TrueType server with XFree86 v4.

If you notice the items that are bold, but should be italic. I've since
fixed that by taking the "alias" file like this one:

-monotype-Arial-medium-r-normal--6-60-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -monotype-Arial-
medium-r-normal--9-90-75-75-p-0-iso8859-1-monotype-Arial-medium-r-normal
--7-70-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1 -monotype-Arial-medium-r-normal--9-90-75-75-p-0
-iso8859-1

and duplicating it but replaced either the "medium" or "normal" entries
to "italic". I don't have a current screenshot, but slashdot.org now
shows up properly. I'm also able to pick any size font with Netscape's
drop-down selection box (from 6 up to 24 -- the same sizes shown in the
alias file).

I must admit, it was a pain in the a**. It should *NOT* be that much
work, but it's fixed now.

Good luck
Hall



Bibtex and perl

2001-02-08 Thread David Nowak
Hi,

I wish to access my bibtex data from perl.  Is there a library that provides
such thing in the Debian distribution?

Many thanks,

-- 
David



Re: Bibtex and perl

2001-02-08 Thread Andrew Perrin
I don't know about within the debian distribution, but take a look at:

http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-module/Text/Text-BibTeX-0.33.tar.gz

which is a perl interface to bibtool.

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> Hi,
> 
> I wish to access my bibtex data from perl.  Is there a library that provides
> such thing in the Debian distribution?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
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RE: E-commerce

2001-02-08 Thread Brooks R. Robinson



Greetings,
    I really depends on what you 
want.  I am starting a low budget site soon using eztrade (http://trade.ez.no)  It's a little sluggish 
with only 32MB of RAM, but you can modify it to speed it up.
 
Brooks

  -Original Message-From: Aleš Jerman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 08, 
  2001 6:46 AMTo: Debian User listSubject: 
  E-commerce
  Does anybody know a good E-commerce solution for Debian?
  I need something for about 30 products, something that is simple for use, 
  that is sicure and that would run well on CPU 200Mhz, RAM 32MB.
  Thank you!
  Bye,
   
  Aleš Jerman


Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

2001-02-08 Thread virtanen
Thanks a lot for your message and for the others as well. Your advice is
quite the same as which was pointed by others to be found on
'cd-writing-HOWTO', but there wasn't all this info. 


On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, mike polniak wrote:

> > > Now it happens that if try to do this installing (by 'modconf') these
> > > modules (ide-scsi and scsi-support) modconf anwers:
> > > 
> > > 'failed'. (So something has changed in the system.)
> > 
> > The whole answer is this:
___
> > 
> > Installing module ide-scsi. If the device isn't there, or isn't configured
> > correctly, this could cause your system to pause for up to a minute.
> > 
> > modprobe: Can't locate module ide-cd
> > modprobe: pre-install ide-scsi failed
> > modprobe: insmod ide-scsi failed
> > 
> > Installation failed.
_

>   Perhaps the idecd is installed into the kernel and is not a module.
> You can check your kernel configuration in  /boot/version/config.
>   That will tell what is configured as a module(=m) and what is 
> compiled directly into the kernel(=y).So check for the following:
> 
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD
> CONFIG_SCSI
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR
__

This is from /boot/config-2.2.17:

# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82C586 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD646 is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530 is not set
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PS2=y
__

These I couldn't find:


> CONFIG_SCSI
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR

___



> 
>   IF you previously loaded ide-scsi and sg modules then they are ok.
> If IDECD is not a module then that causes the modprobe failed messages.
>   So you can remove the 2 lines in /etc/modutils/aliases that refer
> to ide-cd. 

Do you mean here:


# Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use
# lisäsin allaolevat
options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore
hdc
alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd   before ide-scsi
# tähän asti
__

To change into:
_

# Aliases to tell insmod/modprobe which modules to use
# lisäsin allaolevat
# options ide-cd ignore=hdc# tell the ide-cd module to ignore 
hdc
alias scd0 sr_mod# load sr_mod upon access of scd0
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sg
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi # load ide-scsi before sr_mod
# pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd # load ide-cd   before ide-scsi
# tähän asti
__

Or which are the 'two lines'?   

> But now you must tell the kernel to use scsi before ide by
> adding a line to /etc/lilo.conf :  append="hdc=ide-scsi" and run lilo.

Now it looks like this. Is the line 'append="hdc=ide-scsi"' at the right
place?
___

boot = /dev/hda
delay = 20
timeout = 500
prompt
  default = Linux
  vga = normal
  root = /dev/hda3
  read-only
lba32
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
image = /vmlinuz
  label = Linux
append="hdc=ide-scsi"
image = /vmlinuz.old
  label = LinuxOLD
  optional
other = /dev/hda1
  label = win98
___
After changing 'aliases' and changing lilo and running 'update-modules'
and running 'lilo'...  

It still doesn't work. When trying to install xcdroast it still
complaining: 'no generic scsi support'...

_

Could I just change in the 

/boot/config-2.2.17

the line:


CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
into
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m


and remove that 'append line in lilo'?

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Re: (no subject)

2001-02-08 Thread virtanen
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Viktor Sergeichik wrote:

> help

Which kind of? Are you trying to install Debian?

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[Fwd: Dual Monitors]

2001-02-08 Thread Ian Stuart
What does /var/log/XFree86.0.log say?

(alternatively, kill of {x/g}dm and use startx 2>&1 > /tmp/xfree.startup
(or whatever) and see what you get then.

Are you passing the --xinerama to startx?


 Original Message 
Subject: Dual Monitors
Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:24:27 GMT
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:21:46 -0600
From: David Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Hi, I've been trying to get my system to work with dual monitors, and
I'm
having a little trouble.

Card 1 is a Voodoo3 3000 PCI with a generic monitor attached
Card 2 is an ATI Rage Pro GB (Mach 64) with an NEC MultiSync XV14
attached

The X Server reports that it is unable to find device when it is
started.
However, the console itself recognizes the card.  Any thoughts?

Thanks, DAVE


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inn (was: Unidentified subject!)

2001-02-08 Thread Moritz Schulte
David Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have installed the package inn.  And I have started innd with its
> initial configuration.

Don't expect such a complex program like inn to do what you want,
without proper configuration.

> But it does not open a connection on the port nntp (119) as I
> thought.

Hmm, why should it? It's a news server, so it should listen on the
nntp port for incoming connections. A client should open a connection
to the nntp port to speak with the server.
(I don't know inn*/wether innd is expected to connect to the port.)

> I guess I have a line to add in /etc/inetd.conf.  What is this line?

Hmm. Try to connect to your nntp port - is innd running?

> I also tried the package inn2.  I have the same problem and another
> one: innwatch requires that the field domain in inn.conf to be
> filled.  But I have nothing to put in this field as I have no domain
> name.  What should I do?

Can't help you. Have you read the documentation?

hth,
moritz
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Re: Any experience with new NVIDIA drivers? -- SOLVED!!

2001-02-08 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 12:53:04AM -0600, Dr. Aldo Medina wrote:
> > 
> > The funny thing is that "hardware" acceleration is about 2-3 times
> > slower than "software". Thanks any way, as I seem to remember something
> > in my previous machine (PII350, RH 6.2) about recommending using 16-bit
> > mode, as this is the accelerated bpp. I will try it and post the
> > results. Thank you very much.
> 
> Well, that was it. I remembered I read somewhere that NVIDIA's drivers
> only supported 16-bpp. I remember how my PII350 slowed almost to freeze
> in 24 or 8 bpp, so maybe what I'm watching is my PIII800 being able to
> maintain a very slow motion netherless. I tried 16-bpp instead 24-bpp,
> and IT WORKED!!!: Now I enjoy blazing speed even at 1600x1200. Thanks to
> all that tried to help me. As I side note I rechecked NVIDIA's doc and I
> didn't found any reference to this, even as I remember having read it
> back to 0.9-1 or 3.

I don't remember where, but I recall seeing somewhere a recommendation
that 24 bpp not be used with the NVIDIA cards.

Bob



Re: i810 in testing

2001-02-08 Thread Glenn Becker

Alvin,

Thx for the info. In short I'm wanting to remove SuSE 6.4 from my work box
and slap Debian on it, since SuSE has come to look ... pretty pale compared 
to my Debian setup at home.

I originally moved to SuSE from Slack bec. I was totally inexperienced and
the support for i810 on SuSE was rumored to be pretty complete and
friendly, which it was. I'm still totally inexperienced, but want my
Debian, and the tech folks here are amenable as long as they don't have to
spend time helping me!

G
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At 2:17am on Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Alvin Oga wrote:

> 
> hi ya glenn..
> 
> what kind of i180 testing are you doing/planning todo ???
> 
> if get X11 up and running...for i810 or i815 chip sets...
> 
> w/ XFree-3.3.x  you do need that agpgart and XFCom_i810 driver
> w/ XFree-4.x   i think it works out of the box
>   5 minutes work or so to get X11 up and about...
> 
> what out for /etc/X11/X  and /usr/X11R6/bin/X
> ( make sure it points to the right places )
> 
> have not tested under debian...but works okay/reasonable on
> the other guys boxes..
> 
> have fun
> alvin
> http://www.linux-1U.net ...
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Glenn Becker wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm strongly considering switching over to Debian at work ... but my
> > machine here has one of those evilish Intel i810 video jobs ... any
> > reports of success or failure with this chip and X in testing?
> > 
> > I found a few things in the list archives but they were sort of
> > inconclusive as far as testing goes. I don't mind fiddling with box, but
> > here it's time sensitive as I have graphics work to do. So ... fiddlin'
> > time is at a premium.
> > 
> > Experience tells me getting this hardware to work with older versions of
> > XFree requires the download and installation of a module by the name of
> > agpgart.o ... I never had a whole lot of luck with it ...
> > 
> > Thx,
> > 
> > Glenn
> > 
> > _
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Include file problems

2001-02-08 Thread Stan Brown
I have installed a new potato system, and choosen the "developer" install.
I have looked in dselect, and confirmed that libc6-dev is marked as
installed.

Yet when I try to compile things, I am having include file problems.

For example I am trying to compile the Oracle ProC samples, and they
include stdio,h (which is there in /usr/include). It in turn includes, for
example stddef.h, whch is not in /usr/include. I did find a copy of it in
/usr/include/linux.

Shouldn't there be a link from there to /usr/include for it?



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Re: Oracle 8i ProC and Debian Potato

2001-02-08 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 06:20:07AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> I'm sure you are trying to be helpful, bit it's getting to be pretty anoying.
> 
> This is the 4th mesage I have recived from yu, with only my orignal post 
> quoted,
> and no added content atl all!
> 
> Please get a mailer that works!

It's a virus or bad filter rule or something.  I don't think there's
actually a person sending these (I've received several -- redirected to
/dev/null).

> 
> On Thu Feb  8 04:51:10 2001 unix,inc. wrote...
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: ""J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: "Debian User List" 
> >Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:20 PM
> >Subject: Re: Oracle 8i ProC and Debian Potato
> >
> >
> >> On Wed Feb  7 17:03:53 2001 "J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)" wrote...
> >> >
> >> >On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 14:16:36 -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> >> >> bad news, _Lot's_ of erors. The firs one is failing to find stddef.h,
> >tehn
> >> >> stdarg.h ... and so on.
> >> >>
> >> >> What am I doing wrong here?
> >> >
> >> >You've probably forgotten to install libc6-dev which contains these
> >headers.
> >> >If not, you'll have to provide more details (e.g. a script(1) transcript
> >of
> >> >a compilation attempt).
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well, dselect has libc6-dev marked as installed. I was hopeful it was that
> >> simple. It's reproducable on 2 different systems, that I just built, so it
> >must
> >> be some mistake I am making.
> >>
> >> Here's a bit of a typescript.
> >>
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/precomp/demo/proc$ make -f *mk sample1
> >> make -f /usr/oracle/precomp/demo/proc/demo_proc.mk OBJS=sample1.o
> >EXE=sample1 build
> >> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/oracle/precomp/demo/proc'
> >> proc  iname=sample1
> >>
> >> Pro*C/C++: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Tue Feb 6 20:56:20 2001
> >>
> >> (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
> >>
> >> System default option values taken from:
> >/usr/oracle/precomp/admin/pcscfg.cfg
> >>
> >> Error at line 33, column 11 in file /usr/include/stdio.h
> >> # include 
> >> ..1
> >> PCC-S-02015, unable to open include file
> >> Error at line 38, column 11 in file /usr/include/stdio.h
> >> # include 
> >> ..1
> >>
> >> As you can see I have (at least) missing include files.
> >>
> >> What else can I check?
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Charleston SC.
> >> --
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> >> useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
> >> a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
> >> originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit
> >> company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
> >> -
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> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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>   useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
>   a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
>   originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
>   company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Re: inn (was: Unidentified subject!)

2001-02-08 Thread David Nowak
Thanks for your help Moritz.

> > But it does not open a connection on the port nntp (119) as I
> > thought.
> Hmm, why should it? It's a news server, so it should listen on the
> nntp port for incoming connections. A client should open a connection
> to the nntp port to speak with the server.

Ok, there is a error in my question:  I meant that innd does not LISTEN on nntp
port.

> > I guess I have a line to add in /etc/inetd.conf.  What is this line?
> Hmm. Try to connect to your nntp port - is innd running?

Yes, innd is running but when my client try to connect to the nntp port, the
connection is refused (because innd does NOT listen on nntp port).

-- 
David



Compiling the util-linux package for potato

2001-02-08 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Hi,


I have fetched the deb-src package of util-linux 2.10q to
comply with the demands of a kernel 2.4.1. Compiling and
installing it seems more daunting than usual -- the MCONFIG
file in the source archive lists a lot of options that should
be answered correctly so as not to wind up with a system that
you cannot log into. I am uncertain of the answers to some of
the questions that these settings raise and would be greatful
if someone could edit the MCONFIG file listed below with the
settings filled in correctly for a fairly virgin potato system
(only a few updates from stable/security):


   -MCONFIG begin---

# If HAVE_PAM is set to "yes", then login, chfn, chsh, and newgrp 
# will use PAM for authentication. Additionally, passwd will not be   
# installed as it is not PAM aware.   
HAVE_PAM=yes  
  
# If HAVE_SHADOW is set to "yes", then login, chfn, chsh, newgrp, passwd, 
# and vipw will not be built or installed from the login-utils
# subdirectory.   
HAVE_SHADOW=yes   
  
# If HAVE_PASSWD is set to "yes", then passwd will not be built or
# installed from the login-utils subdirectory (but login, chfn, chsh, 
# newgrp, and vipw *will* be installed).  
HAVE_PASSWD=no
  
# If you use chfn and chsh from this package, REQUIRE_PASSWORD will require   
# non-root users to enter the account password before updating /etc/passwd.   
REQUIRE_PASSWORD=yes  
#REQUIRE_PASSWORD=no  
  
# If you use chsh from this package, ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS will require that 
# the selected shell be listed in /etc/shells -- otherwise only a warning is  
# printed.  This prevents someone from setting their shell to /bin/false. 
ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS=yes
#ONLY_LISTED_SHELLS=no

# If HAVE_SYSVINIT is set to "yes", then simpleinit and shutdown will not 
# be built or installed from the login-utils subdirectory.  (The shutdown 
# and halt that come with the SysVinit package should be used with the init   
# found in that package.) 
HAVE_SYSVINIT=no  
  
# If HAVE_SYSVINIT_UTILS is set to "yes", then last, mesg, and wall will  
# not be built or installed from the login-utils subdirectory.  (The  
# shutdown and init from the SysVinit package do not depend on the last,  
# mesg, and wall from that package.)  
HAVE_SYSVINIT_UTILS=no
  
# If HAVE_GETTY is set to "yes", then agetty will not be built or 
# installed from the login-utils subdirectory.  Note that agetty can  
# co-exist with other gettys, so this option should never be used.
HAVE_GETTY=no 
  
# If USE_TTY_GROUP is set to "yes", then wall and write will be installed 
# setgid to the "tty" group, and mesg will only set the group write bit.  
# Note that this is only useful if login/xterm/etc. change the group of the   
# user's tty to "tty" [The login in util-linux does this correctly, and   
# xterm will do it correctly if X is compiled with USE_TTY_GROUP set  
# properly.]  
USE_TTY_GROUP=yes  

# If HAVE_RESET is set to "yes", then reset won't be installed.  The version  
# of reset that comes with the ncurses package is less aggressive.
HAVE_RESET=yes
  
# If HAVE_SLN is set to "yes", then sln won't be installed
# (but the man page sln.8 will be installed anyway).  
# sln also comes with libc and glibc. 
HAVE_SLN=no 

Re: Memory/cpu quoatas for users

2001-02-08 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 09:35:21AM +, Mike Moran wrote:
| 
| Hi. I am looking for a way to limit the amount of memory and cpu used by
| the apache

I know it is possible, but I don't know how to set it.  I know it is
possible because when running Gnumeric I ran out of memory (trying to
save too many cells) and the system booted me off (I was back at the
login screen).  This was with a RH7 system, though.

-D



XFree 4.0 debs?

2001-02-08 Thread francisco m . neto
Hello there!

I'm looking for deb packages of XFree 4.0.2, and it doesn't
seem to be under the testing tree, neither under the unstable one.

Does anyone know if there is a package for it, and where I
could get it?

--
[]'s,

francisco m. neto





Re: pppd problem with 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Tom George

Hall Stevenson wrote:


I compiled 2.4.1 and tried to sign on the internet.  pppd
sent a string that caused the connection to fail.  I
reloaced 2.2.12 and signed on with no difficulty in order
to send this message.  Any ideas?



You need a specific, updated version of pppd to work with kernels 2.4.x.
All the updated/required packages are detailed in the "changes" (or is
it "Changes") file included with the kernel.

Regards
Hall


Before compiling the 2.4.1 kernel I used apt-get dist-upgrade  to 
install all the available upgrades in the stable distribution,.  I then 
checked against the list in changes and found that I still had only 
modutils 2.3.11-13.1.  I used apt-get install modutils to get version 
2.4.1-2.   Still dpkg -l shows that I still have only ppp 2.3.11-1.4.  I 
will try getting ppp 2.4.0 from the unstable distribution.


I am a little nervous about this - I really want to use some of the 
features of 2.4 but why should I have to obtain packages from the 
unstable distribution for a stable kernel distribution?




why does eth0 require modprobe?

2001-02-08 Thread Krzys Majewski
For  those of  you  who have  been  following with  baited breath  the
ongoing  saga of  my boot  floppies: I  am now  loading a  kernel from
floppy #1 and  a compressed root image from floppy #2,  at which point I
get a shell enabling me to mount floppy #3 and copy additional goodies
from  it.  Having arrived  this  far, I  crossed  my  fingers and  ran
'ifconfig eth0'. This tried to run 'modprobe -s -k eth0', which failed
since modprobe is one of the goodies I don't have yet. My question is, why do
I need modprobe to configure the eth0 interface? Since the kernel gets
a whole floppy to itself, I've compiled all the drivers (including the NIC
driver)  into the  kernel.  No modules.  Is  there some  other way  to
associate eth0 with my NIC driver (3c59x.c) ?
-chris



capslock as control in console

2001-02-08 Thread Dan Christensen
I use the following to make capslock act as control in the console
window.  What I'm wondering is if there is a way to do this without
installing console-tools, which depends on console-data and
console-tools-libs, which altogether require almost 5M of disk space
on my machine.  Any thoughts?

Dan

loadkeys << EOF
keymaps 0-15
# make capslock produce Control:
keycode 58 = Control
# make left windows key produce control
keycode 125 = Control
EOF



Re: Lilo problems after a debian installation...

2001-02-08 Thread Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
Hall,

thanks lot for your help.
finally I can boot from Lilo to my two OSs. I'd must to change the hard
disks, win on the primary IDE and Linux on the secondary IDE, then I
modify my references to hds on fstab and lilo, rerun lilo and ready!

Now I can play with both systems...


Hall Stevenson wrote:

> Unless I'm missing something plainly obvious, it looks okay and correct
> to me. You should have copied the list too though.
>
> One thing to try: comment out the lba32 line. Re-run /sbin/lilo and try
> again. I seem to recall having problems when I had that same line in my
> config file.
>
> Good luck
> Hall
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rogelio E. Castillo Haro,,," <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Hall Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Lilo problems after a debian installation...
>
> > I have not the PC on network, but I think that the matter lines are:
> > lba32
> > boot = /dev/hda
> > root = /dev/hda3
> > install=/boot/boot.b
> > map = /boot/map
> >
> > default=Linux
> > image= /vmlinuz
> >label=Linux
> >read-only
> >
> > other=/dev/hdc1
> >label=win
> >
> > fdisk reports that windows is in hdc1 partition
> > with th above configuration when I select win, it appears:
> > Loading win
> > L?
> >
> > If I change the line other with:
> > other= /dev/hdc
> > it appears:
> > Loading win
> > Operating System not found.
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> > Hall Stevenson wrote:
> >
> > >> Primary master (hda) with Debian, just installed las weekend
> > >> Secondary master (hdc) with Win98 already installed and
> > >
> > > working...(sic)
> > >
> > >> Well I install Debian on my primary disk and tell lilo to install
> at
> > >
> > > the
> > >
> > >> MBR (unsafe I know)
> > >> Now when I select to boot win98 it appears:
> > >> Loading win
> > >> L?
> > >> And stays there...so what can I do to repair the boot loader and
> start
> > >> Windows?
> > >> I read the lilo doc but isn't appear this exactly message...
> > >
> > > Post your /etc/lilo.conf file.
> > >
> > > I don't think anything's wrong with lilo other than it possibly
> pointing
> > > to the wrong place for Windows. Lilo *is* telling Windows to load
> from
> > > the output you posted.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Hall
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Rogelio E. Castillo Haro
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Vive libre o muere!!!
> > Linux 2001 :)
> >

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Vive libre o muere!!!
Linux 2001 :)





Cat-ting binary files to the console

2001-02-08 Thread Benjamin Pharr
Every once in a while I slip up at cat a binary file to the console. (Or 
just forget to give mkisofs the -o flag.)  This causes the console to use 
WEIRD characters, just plain gibberish.  Is there any way to get rid of 
this without rebooting?  Thanks!


Ben Pharr



Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area

2001-02-08 Thread judd
On  8 Feb, John Foster wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>  The virtual resolution is by default set to the maximum resolution
>> for the display (I think).  In the display section add the line:
>> 
>>  Virtual 1024 768
>> 
>> You might not be able to switch to a larger display, however.  See
>> man XF86Config.
>> 
>> -Chris
> -REPLY---
>  That did it! It is not exactly what I wanted to achieve, but at least
> it puts me back to where I was before the upgrade. Now if I can just
> figure out how to coordinate a change in resolution with a corresponding
> change in virtual screen size. Maybe a virtual display with each
> resolution. Any ideas? BTW I did see the reference in the docs, but
> did not understand how they applied. The examples were not clear.:-(

 I haven't got been able to do that, either.  Anyone else know how
to?

-Chris


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Re: XFree 4.0 debs?

2001-02-08 Thread Moritz Schulte
"francisco m . neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>   I'm looking for deb packages of XFree 4.0.2, and it doesn't
> seem to be under the testing tree, neither under the unstable one.

I just checked, it _is_ packaged (also in testing).

moritz
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Re: XFree 4.0 debs?

2001-02-08 Thread Glenn Becker

yes - i recently upgraded to testing and got xfree 4.0.2 in the process.

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At 6:19pm on 8 Feb 2001, Moritz Schulte wrote:

> "francisco m . neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm looking for deb packages of XFree 4.0.2, and it doesn't
> > seem to be under the testing tree, neither under the unstable one.
> 
> I just checked, it _is_ packaged (also in testing).
> 
>   moritz
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Re: Cat-ting binary files to the console

2001-02-08 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Benjamin Pharr wrote:

> Every once in a while I slip up at cat a binary file to the console. (Or 
> just forget to give mkisofs the -o flag.)  This causes the console to use 
> WEIRD characters, just plain gibberish.  Is there any way to get rid of 
> this without rebooting?  Thanks!

Sure, just type 'reset', that should fix things.

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Re: Cat-ting binary files to the console

2001-02-08 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 11:18:34AM -0600, Benjamin Pharr wrote:
> Every once in a while I slip up at cat a binary file to the console. (Or 
> just forget to give mkisofs the -o flag.)  This causes the console to use 
> WEIRD characters, just plain gibberish.  Is there any way to get rid of 
> this without rebooting?  Thanks!

Typing 'reset' and/or 'stty sane' in the console helps most of the times.
Then there's some echo (echo  maybe) that also resets the
console.

You could also use a shell that doesn't corrupt your display, like zsh. :)


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Re: Cat-ting binary files to the console

2001-02-08 Thread vdongen
running reset one or two times fixes this for me.

Greetz,

Ivo van Dongen

Today, young men on accid realise that all matter is merly energy 
condenced to a slow vibration, that we are all one consienceness and  
sharing ourselfs. There is no such thing as deathlife is only a 
dream in the imagination of ourself. - Tool



-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Pharr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 11:18:34 -0600
Subject: Cat-ting binary files to the console

> Every once in a while I slip up at cat a binary file to the console.
> (Or 
> just forget to give mkisofs the -o flag.)  This causes the console to
> use 
> WEIRD characters, just plain gibberish.  Is there any way to get rid
> of 
> this without rebooting?  Thanks!
> 
> Ben Pharr
> 
> 
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> 




Re: Cat-ting binary files to the console

2001-02-08 Thread Mike McGuire

> Every once in a while I slip up at cat a binary file to the console. (Or 
> just forget to give mkisofs the -o flag.)  This causes the console to use 
> WEIRD characters, just plain gibberish.  Is there any way to get rid of 
> this without rebooting?  Thanks!
> 
> Ben Pharr
> 

Try:
# setterm -reset
(and backspace over any crap it put on the command line first)

And if all else fails, you've (probably) got five more terminals. :)

HTH, Mike McGuire



Re: XFree 4.0 debs?

2001-02-08 Thread Christian Terboven

Moritz Schulte wrote:


"francisco m . neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I'm looking for deb packages of XFree 4.0.2, and it doesn't
seem to be under the testing tree, neither under the unstable one.



I just checked, it _is_ packaged (also in testing).





moritz


If you use potato, simply add

deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/
deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/

to your apt sources.list   (/etc/apt/sources.list)

Christian



Re: Sig 11 in X4.02 using Matrox G450

2001-02-08 Thread Frederik Vanrenterghem
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Damon Muller wrote:

> 
> BTW, this is using the mga_drv.o module from the Matrox site (the
> standard X4 one does not work with the G450).
> 

http://forum.matrox.com/cgi-bin/mgaforum/forumdisplay.cgi?
action=topics&forum=Linux&number=2&DaysPrune=30&LastLogin=

This is a link to the Matrox linux users forum. In this forum, you'll find
many questions regarding the G450 and X4.02. Essentially, it seems to boil
down to this: sorry, it doesn't work very well yet, wait for a driver
update.

If you do find a way to get, using Debian packages, everything up and
running OK, feel free to share :-)

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Re: Compiling the util-linux package for potato

2001-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
Morten Bo Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have fetched the deb-src package of util-linux 2.10q to comply with
>the demands of a kernel 2.4.1. Compiling and installing it seems more
>daunting than usual -- the MCONFIG file in the source archive lists a
>lot of options that should be answered correctly so as not to wind up
>with a system that you cannot log into.

Shouldn't the Debian source package already be patched appropriately?
Just run 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot' to build it, assuming you have
all the necessary development packages.

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Re: Include file problems

2001-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
"Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have installed a new potato system, and choosen the "developer" install.
>I have looked in dselect, and confirmed that libc6-dev is marked as
>installed.
>
>Yet when I try to compile things, I am having include file problems.
>
>For example I am trying to compile the Oracle ProC samples, and they
>include stdio,h (which is there in /usr/include). It in turn includes, for
>example stddef.h, whch is not in /usr/include. I did find a copy of it in
>/usr/include/linux.
>
>Shouldn't there be a link from there to /usr/include for it?

No, the compiler should automatically find stddef.h in the appropriate
place in /usr/lib/gcc-lib.

What errors are you getting, exactly?

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Re: debian 2.2 with 8 meg ?

2001-02-08 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have an old, lonely 486 with 8 MB and want to use it for Linux.
> Is there any chance to use debian 2.2 on it.
> I read in the installation manual, that it needs 12 MB.

As someone else already pointed out, that you can install potato on a
machine with 8MB RAM, but it's really painful.

An alternative would be to do the actual install on a faster machine to
get a base system up and running and then stuffing the hard drive into
your 486.  Running apt-get to add or delete stuff is fairly easy,
although it will take some minutes, too.  I installed my firewall like
that and it works like a charm (zero loadavg).

HTH,
Viktor
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Re: Memory/cpu quoatas for users

2001-02-08 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
D-Man wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 09:35:21AM +, Mike Moran wrote:
> |
> | Hi. I am looking for a way to limit the amount of memory and cpu used by
> | the apache
> 
> I know it is possible, but I don't know how to set it.  I know it is
> possible because when running Gnumeric I ran out of memory (trying to
> save too many cells) and the system booted me off (I was back at the
> login screen).  This was with a RH7 system, though.

Sounds like the Linux OOM killer got rid of your X-Server because it was
eating resources like crazy.  IHMO, that doesn't qualify as quotas for
memory and cpu usage.

That aside, maybe playing around with ulimit (man ulimit) could do
something you desire.

MfG Viktor
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Re: Lilo problems after a debian installation...

2001-02-08 Thread Hall Stevenson

I thought it was odd that you had Windows on the secondary controller. I
didn't think it would work that way, but assumed it was already. I
thought you made some changes to lilo and then it stopped working...

Oh well, it's working now so that's all that matters !

Hall

> thanks lot for your help.
> finally I can boot from Lilo to my two OSs. I'd must
> to change the hard disks, win on the primary IDE
> and Linux on the secondary IDE, then I modify my
> references to hds on fstab and lilo, rerun lilo and
> ready!

> Hall Stevenson wrote:
>
> > Unless I'm missing something plainly obvious, it
> > looks okay and correct to me. You should have
> > copied the list too though.
> >
> > One thing to try: comment out the lba32 line.
> > Re-run /sbin/lilo and try again. I seem to recall
> > having problems when I had that same line in my
> > config file.
> >

> > > I have not the PC on network, but I think that the
> > > matter lines are:
> > > lba32
> > > boot = /dev/hda
> > > root = /dev/hda3
> > > install=/boot/boot.b
> > > map = /boot/map
> > >
> > > default=Linux
> > > image= /vmlinuz
> > >label=Linux
> > >read-only
> > >
> > > other=/dev/hdc1
> > >label=win
> > >
> > > fdisk reports that windows is in hdc1 partition
> > > with th above configuration when I select win, it appears:
> > > Loading win
> > > L?
> > >
> > > If I change the line other with:
> > > other= /dev/hdc
> > > it appears:
> > > Loading win
> > > Operating System not found.




Re: pppd problem with 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Tom George

Tom George wrote:


Hall Stevenson wrote:


I compiled 2.4.1 and tried to sign on the internet.  pppd
sent a string that caused the connection to fail.  I
reloaced 2.2.12 and signed on with no difficulty in order
to send this message.  Any ideas?




You need a specific, updated version of pppd to work with kernels 2.4.x.
All the updated/required packages are detailed in the "changes" (or is
it "Changes") file included with the kernel.

Regards
Hall


Before compiling the 2.4.1 kernel I used apt-get dist-upgrade  to 
install all the available upgrades in the stable distribution,.  I 
then checked against the list in changes and found that I still had 
only modutils 2.3.11-13.1.  I used apt-get install modutils to get 
version 2.4.1-2.   Still dpkg -l shows that I still have only ppp 
2.3.11-1.4.  I will try getting ppp 2.4.0 from the unstable distribution.


I am a little nervous about this - I really want to use some of the 
features of 2.4 but why should I have to obtain packages from the 
unstable distribution for a stable kernel distribution?



Well I got ppp 2.4.0f-1.  I had to ./MAKEDEV ttyS4, then setserial uart 
16550A port 0xd800 irq 3  When I executed pon and then plog I got a 
message that the device was locked pid 181.


For the record I configured the 2.4.1 kernel for standard uart support, 
for extended dumb serial support and for more than 4 serial ports.  I am 
only using ttyS0 and ttyS4 - the latter because that is where my Zoom 
pci modem decided it belonged.




Re: pppd problem with 2.4.1

2001-02-08 Thread Hall Stevenson
> Before compiling the 2.4.1 kernel I used apt-get dist-upgrade  to
> install all the available upgrades in the stable distribution,.  I
then
> checked against the list in changes and found that I still had only
> modutils 2.3.11-13.1.  I used apt-get install modutils to get version
> 2.4.1-2.   Still dpkg -l shows that I still have only ppp 2.3.11-1.4.
I
> will try getting ppp 2.4.0 from the unstable distribution.
>
> I am a little nervous about this - I really want to use some of the
> features of 2.4 but why should I have to obtain packages from the
> unstable distribution for a stable kernel distribution?

If it's any consolation, I'm running Debian's "unstable" version and
it's pretty damn stable for me !! ;-) Course, I don't really push it
like some people may.

Is kernel 2.4 in "stable" now ?? I just checked
http://packages.debian.org and it does *not* appear to be... it's still
in "unstable". Note though, it has a 99% quality rating. Should be
pretty safe to use. ;-)

Also, why would the package ppp-2.3.11-1.4 be listed in "stable", but
have a quality of 1% ??

Regards
Hall Stevenson



Re: HP 9100 series cd -writer?

2001-02-08 Thread mike polniak
> 
> > Perhaps the idecd is installed into the kernel and is not a module.
> > You can check your kernel configuration in  /boot/version/config.
> > That will tell what is configured as a module(=m) and what is 
> > compiled directly into the kernel(=y).So check for the following:
> > 
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD
> > CONFIG_SCSI
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR
> __
> 
> This is from /boot/config-2.2.17:
> 
> # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=m
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m
> 
> These I couldn't find:
> 
> 
> > CONFIG_SCSI
> > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR

> ___
> After changing 'aliases' and changing lilo and running 'update-modules'
> and running 'lilo'...  
> 
> It still doesn't work. When trying to install xcdroast it still
> complaining: 'no generic scsi support'...
> 
> _
> 
> Could I just change in the 
> 
> /boot/config-2.2.17
> 
> the line:
> 
> 
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
> into
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m
> 
> 
> and remove that 'append line in lilo'?

Well since idecd is not a module, you need the append line.
The only way to change idecd to a module is to compile a new kernel.
But your kernel must also set CONFIG_SCSI and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR.
Now i assume you have CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI set.
If any of these are not set in your current kernel configuration
you will have to compile a new kernel and set them as modules.


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Re: XFree 4.0 debs?

2001-02-08 Thread francisco m . neto
» Christian Terboven disse isso e eu digo aquilo:

> Moritz Schulte wrote:
> 
> > "francisco m . neto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >>I'm looking for deb packages of XFree 4.0.2, and it doesn't
> >> seem to be under the testing tree, neither under the unstable one.
> > 
> > 
> > I just checked, it _is_ packaged (also in testing).

Isn't it be supposed to be in testing/main/binary-i386/x11?

> If you use potato, simply add
> 
> deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/
> deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/
> 
> to your apt sources.list   (/etc/apt/sources.list)

Thanks.

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emacs 21

2001-02-08 Thread Julio Merino
Anybody knows if there is any emacs21 beta debian package anywhere?

Thanks in advance.



cvs modules

2001-02-08 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
I know this is quite dumb, but how can I see the modules inside a repository. 
cvs checkout needs a module to check out but I can't git it one if I can't see 
which modules are in the repository
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Re: True Type fonts

2001-02-08 Thread mike polniak
Hall Stevenson wrote:
> > > >helpful page: http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
> >
> > I use XFree86-4 with the xfs-xtt font server. I have tried other
> > ways and  xfs-xtt gives the best results of any in netscape.
> 
> I followed the directions on the page above and got the results shown
> here with Netscape:
> http://www.mindspring.com/~hallstevenson/files/screenshot-012801.jpg
> 
> I'm using *only* the built-in TrueType server with XFree86 v4.

Well supposedly the built-in server is not as good as xfs-xtt for
rendering fonts according to the pkg description:

This package provide X-TrueType font server. This is compatible  normal X
font server, but added X-TrueType font handling scheme support instead of
FreeType backend. XFree86 4.0's font server can handle TrueType too, but it
can not handle TTCap. By using TTCap description, support for font
transformations, such as slanting, adjusting glyph width, pseudo-bolding,
etc.
FWIW
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