Re: apt-get netscape v4.76 problem

2001-01-07 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:33:48PM -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> Yikes!
> I have done:
> apt-get install netscape-base-4
> apt-get install netscape-base-476
> apt-get install netscape-java-476
> apt-get install navigator-base-476
> apt-get install communicator-base-476

Try either:

$ apt-get install navigator

or

$ apt-get install communicator

Both are "psuedo-packages", in they only supply the dependencies
necessary to get all the parts installed.  The first justs gets the
browser, the second gets the whole Netscape/Navigator/Mail thingy.

It's confusing, because the executable is like "navigator-smotif-476",
but it needs these other parts as well.

-- 
Eric G. Miller 



Re: Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread Aaron Maxwell
> If some other program is using /dev/dsp, you'll also get that error.
> 
> Check to see if 'esd' is running, it'll snatch up /dev/dsp. I know there
> are ways to make it release it every so often, but I can't remember how.

esd is not running, I'm certain.  I don't have any apps running that
might grab dsp that I'm aware off.  

btw, I'm running sawfish with kde, mixed woody and potato.

A




Voodoo 3

2001-01-07 Thread David Steinberg

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out what to do to set up my
voodoo 3 to provide hardware-accelerated OpenGL under X 3.3.6?

At this point, what I think I know is that Mesa is a free implementation
of the OpenGL API, and that it can work with (over?) Glide, which is the
Voodoo's API (also the name of the implementation thereof).  Am I anywhere
close?

But I'm completely lost as to what to do to get it to work...

I've installed the following packages (from potato):
libglide2-v3
libglide2-dev
glide2-base
mesag3-glide2
mesag3-widgets
mesag-glide2-dev
mesag-widgets-dev

Okay, so the dev packages are probably overkill at this point, but what
the heck?  :)

If I try to run /usr/bin/test3Dfx, I get:
gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board
gd error (glide): grSstSelect:  non-existent SSTSegmentation fault

In the description for libglide2-v3, it says "You'll need the /dev/3dfx
kernel driver to use this library."  I have no clue what to do about
this; where would I get the this kernel driver?

I haven't had much luck in finding current documentation (I assume things
have changed significantly since the 3dfx howto was last updated 3 years
ago, since it specifically mentions that there is no kernel configuration
necessary).  If anyone could point me in the right direction, I'd be most
appreciative.

TIA.

--
David Steinberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Aaron Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# > If some other program is using /dev/dsp, you'll also get that error.
# > 
# > Check to see if 'esd' is running, it'll snatch up /dev/dsp. I know
there
# > are ways to make it release it every so often, but I can't remember
how.
# 
# esd is not running, I'm certain.  I don't have any apps running that
# might grab dsp that I'm aware off.  
# 
# btw, I'm running sawfish with kde, mixed woody and potato.

Well, I know you've probably already checked, but in the interests of
thoroughness ;): is "arts" running? It's the KDE sound server.

I apologize if you've already checked - I can't help it :)

Dave



Re: xmms and sound

2001-01-07 Thread Michael Smith
Are you running esound?  Try running it with "esd" as root.  Second, make xmms 
use another plugin, try oss.

Olivier Billet wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> i'm trying to make xmms make sound...
> so here's the problem:
> i'm able to hear sound from "cdcd", from "gcd" or from "wmcdplay" for example 
> (so i can play cd's), BUT i can't hear anything from xmms !
>
> what's wrong ? (ok, i think it's the output plugin -- i do not have any 
> libesdout.so in /lib -- but how do i do to work around ?)

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Re: Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread Aaron Maxwell
Actually, I hadn't checked for arts.  It is not/was not running. Thanks.

A

> Well, I know you've probably already checked, but in the interests of
> thoroughness ;): is "arts" running? It's the KDE sound server.
> 
> I apologize if you've already checked - I can't help it :)
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread Russell Coker
I've got a new lilo package on http://www.coker.com.au/lilo/ .  It will be in 
unstable in a few days.

-- 
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http://www.coker.com.au/postal/   Postal SMTP/POP benchmark
http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on
http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page



Re: lilo.conf

2001-01-07 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark

Hey, I didn't know you wrote bonnie++ :) Great utility, thanks :)

Dave



Re: JDK 1.2.2 or higher

2001-01-07 Thread Benjamin Black

Mitchell wrote:


Does anyone know of an apt source which has a later  version of JDK than
the one in the woody tree. Either 1.2.2 or higher? 



Thanks


From  Mitchell


add:

deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian woody non-free

and you should be set.  this information can be [1]found on the 
blackdown site, also.


/ben

[1] http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/java2-status/INSTALL-1.3-j2sdk

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Re: debconf

2001-01-07 Thread Mircea Luca
Rob VanFleet wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:06:19PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Rob VanFleet wrote:
> > > How does one go about changing the message priority in debconf?
> >
> > You may be looking for 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' -- without a bit more
> > explination I can't tell for sure.
> 
> Sorry about the vagueness.  Basically, when I did my initial install,
> debconf was set to only give me high priority messages, I would like to
> set this to low.  I did dpkg-reconfigure debconf-tiny and I got no
> errors, but nothing happened either.
> 
> -Rob
> 
 Hi

what I do usually is

apt-get install dialog

dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=dialog debconf

you can use --frontend=text as well but IMHO dialog looks better.



Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread Rogerio Brito
On Jan 06 2001, Mircea Luca wrote:
> Hmm..well I read in the gcc manual that -O3 is "optimize even more"
> and is the maximum.:-)

First of all, I must say that I'm enjoying this discussion a
lot and that although I never used this pentium-builder thing,
I think that it's pretty slick.

I guess that recompiling every package is not worth the
trouble, but recompiling multimedia and CPU intensive ones may
be a major gain (say, MPEG players and such).

BTW, you can use -O6 for your programs. If I remember
correctly, it will fallback to whatever is the highest mode of
optimization (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong -- I
read this a long time ago and didn't find it listed in the
current documentation now; the funny thing is that it's not
mentioned in the current potato manpage).

I also don't know if -O6 does the same thing as -O9.


[]s, Roger...

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Re: apt-get netscape v4.76 problem

2001-01-07 Thread Glyn Millington
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:33:48PM -0800, thus spake Xucaen:

Just in case, here is a solution from the bottom up!




Ok, in the following order ( as root ):

dpkg --purgeall your netscape packages - clear 'em out. Find out
what you have with aptitude.

Then


cd /etc/apt
mv sources.list sources.list-save
now copy the file attached to /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install netscape-smotif-476

Steven Wayne posted this on uk.comp.os.linux last week.

If you need to do this, don't forget to re-instate your own sources.list
afterwards, unless you want to go for woody!Sorry if this is too basic -
it worked for me!

Glyn

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   8:20am  up 38 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.37, 0.57, 0.39
deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib 
non-free
#deb ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/helix/distributions/debian woody main
#deb-src ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/helix/distributions/debian woody main

#deb ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/ 
#deb-src ftp://galeon.sourceforge.net/pub/galeon/nightly/debian galeon/ 

#deb 
ftp://ftp.mirror.ac.uk/sites/ftp.helixcode.com/pub/helix/distributions/Debian 
woody main
#deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/Debian woody main


Re: Problem running Java code

2001-01-07 Thread Benjamin Black

Kenward Vaughan wrote:


Sorry for what may be a trivial ?? for the Java-folks, but I'm not one
myself... yet.  I DL'd a package called jchempaint for my chemistry classes
which is a java app.  I installed java-common and kaffe, believing that to
be what was need to run the program.  But when I try it, I get:

  daddy:~# jchempaint
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/swing/JPanel
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:native)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:52)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJarName.main(ExecJarName.java:58)
at kaffe.jar.ExecJar.main(ExecJar.java:59)


Am I doing something obviously wrong, or missing a package?



you're trying to use an app that uses the Sun Java Foundation Classes 
(JFC).  these are not free.  see the [0]blackdown project page for 
information on downloading the "official" Java2 SDK for Linux.


/ben

[0] http://www.blackdown.org

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Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread Mircea Luca
Rogerio Brito wrote:
> 
> First of all, I must say that I'm enjoying this discussion a
> lot and that although I never used this pentium-builder thing,
> I think that it's pretty slick.
> 
> I guess that recompiling every package is not worth the
> trouble, but recompiling multimedia and CPU intensive ones may
> be a major gain (say, MPEG players and such).
Yes,I was thinking more like X ,KDE ,Gnome and multimedia so I guess the
few
things left won't take that much time.:-).

 
> BTW, you can use -O6 for your programs. If I remember
> correctly, it will fallback to whatever is the highest mode of
> optimization (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong -- I
> read this a long time ago and didn't find it listed in the
> current documentation now; the funny thing is that it's not
> mentioned in the current potato manpage).
> 
> I also don't know if -O6 does the same thing as -O9.
> 
> []s, Roger...

I've read something on a archive of a gcc mailing list but apparently it
doesn't
relate to the gcc we use-don't remember the link ,I researched this for
a few hours.I got stuck at the debian/rules when I decided to ask for
help.



Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread Matthew Sackman

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 13:49:46 -0800, Ross Boylan said:

> At various times I have wanted to turn off certain daemons without
>  uninstalling their packages.  I couldn't find any good way to do this,
>  so I wrote a little script.  I'm making it available under the GPL.
>  
>  I've since discovered that the some packages also create a bunch of
>  crontab jobs, and they are still cluttering things up a bit.
>  
>  If there's a better way to do this, I'd love to hear it.

Try finding the line in the file /etc/inet.conf and comment it out for the
services that you don't want to run. You may have to reboot then, or try
restarting the internet superserver - try a "/etc/init.d/inetd restart". You
might have to kill a few other processes or just stop them using their scripts
in /etc/init.d/.

Hope this helps

>  
>  #! /usr/bin/python
>  # switchDemon.py
>  #
>  # Usage: switchDemon.py (--on | --off) 
>  #
>  # This script will scan, turn off, or turn on selected
>  # demons in /etc/rc?.d/.  It does so by renaming S* symbolic
>  # links so the services won't start.
>  # Scan mode (neither --on nor --off) simply reports the status
>  # of the demons.
>  # Note that demons are not actually started or stopped by this script;
>  # it just controls what will happen at system startup.
>  #
>  # (c) 2001 Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  # Made available under the GPL (see www.gnu.org)
>  
>  import glob, os.path, re, sys
>  
>  class Demon:
>  "Information and actions on a demon"
>  
>  gDisabled = "Disabled-"
>  
>  def __init__(self, name):
>  "Name of demon"
>  if not os.path.exists("/etc/init.d/"+name):
>  raise name + " is not a known demon"
>  self._name = name
>  self._statuses = []
>  
>  def checkStatus(self):
>  "Check status at various run levels"
>  self.doOverRunLevels(self._checkStatus)
>  
>  def turnOff(self):
>  "Make it so won't run at next system start"
>  self.doOverRunLevels(self._turnOff)
>  self.checkStatus()
>  
>  def turnOn(self):
>  "We will start on next run level change"
>  self.doOverRunLevels(self._turnOn)
>  self.checkStatus()
>  
>  def doOverRunLevels(self, method):
>  "Invoke method over all run levels"
>  for rl in glob.glob("/etc/rc[0-9Ss].d"):
>  method(rl, rl[-3])
>  
>  def _checkStatus(self, directory, runLevel):
>  "See if we are around and fill in _statuses if we are"
>  aRegex = re.compile("("+Demon.gDisabled+r")?S(\d\d)"+self._name);
>  for file in os.listdir(directory):
>  aMatch = aRegex.search(file)
>  if aMatch:
>  aStatus = DemonStatus(runLevel, aMatch.group(2), not 
> aMatch.group(1))
>  self._statuses.append(aStatus)
>  return
>  
>  def _turnOff(self, directory, runLevel):
>  "Disable demon for future reboots"
>  aRegex = re.compile(r"S(\d\d)"+self._name)
>  for file in os.listdir(directory):
>  aMatch = aRegex.match(file)  # must be at start
>  if aMatch:
>  os.rename(os.path.join(directory, file),
>os.path.join(directory, Demon.gDisabled+file))
>  # no return values documented for os.rename
>  return
> 
>  def _turnOn(self, directory, runLevel):
>  "Enable demon for future reboots"
>  aRegex = re.compile(Demon.gDisabled+r"S(\d\d)"+self._name)
>  for file in os.listdir(directory):
>  aMatch = aRegex.match(file)  # must be at start
>  if aMatch:
>  os.rename(os.path.join(directory, file),
>os.path.join(directory, 
> file[len(Demon.gDisabled):]))
>  # no return values documented for os.rename
>  return
>  
>  def reportTo(self, file):
>  "Send human readable report to stream"
>  file.write("Demon %s:\n"%self._name)
>  for aStatus in self._statuses:
>  file.write("\t%s\n"%str(aStatus))
>  
>  
>  class DemonStatus:
>  "Status of a given demon"
>  
>  def __init__(self, runlevel, priority, enabled=1):
>  "Priority (nn) of demon and whether it is enabled"
>  # runlevel is a single 0, 1, ...
>  self._runlevel = runlevel
>  self._priority = priority
>  self._enabled = enabled
>  
>  def __str__(self):
>  if self._enabled:
>  msg = "Enabled"
>  else:
>  msg = "Turned off"
>  return "%s for run level %s (priority %s)"%(msg, self._runlevel, 
> self._priority)
>  
>  def isEnabled(self):
>  if self._enabled:
>  return "on"
>  else:
>  return "off"
>  
>  
>  aCommand = sys.argv[1]
>  if aCommand[0] == "-":
>  if aCommand[-1] == "f":
>  anAction = "turnOf

Permissions

2001-01-07 Thread Sunil Thomas Thonikuzhiyil

Hello

 My ls -l listing shows lines like this
drwx--S---5 sunilsunil4096 Dec 13 09:21 Desktop/
drwxr-sr-x5 sunilsunil4096 Aug 24 07:28 GNUstep/
 I know s bit is suid on files and x permission on directory allows you
to traverse it . But what does s and S  mean on directories also what 
is the difference between S and s


Sunil

-- 

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Sciences,Calicut,Kerala,India http://geocities.com/sunil_tt

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still Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread Aaron Maxwell
I just realized my response below kinda makes it seem like the problem 
has gone away: but it hasn't.  When running 'xanim foo.wav', I still 
get the error 'Cannot Open /dev/dsp device', and I still need help
fixing that :)  

sorry 'bout the confusion...
Aaron

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Aaron Maxwell wrote:

> Actually, I hadn't checked for arts.  It is not/was not running. Thanks.
> 
> A
> 
> > Well, I know you've probably already checked, but in the interests of
> > thoroughness ;): is "arts" running? It's the KDE sound server.
> > 
> > I apologize if you've already checked - I can't help it :)
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > 
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Unable to Install Debian From CD

2001-01-07 Thread sg.au
I have run dbootstrap from the Debian CD and installed the base system. I've 
done all the steps up to the point where the system is rebooted. When it 
reboots from a diskette, it runs the first part of the installation (set up 
partitions, install base system etc.), but if I try to access the CD, it says 
CDROM mount failed.

When it boots from the HDD, I see that it finds the CDROM and calls it hdb. But 
when I run dselect, it only gives three options for access methods:

   nfs install from an NFS server (not yet mounted)
   floppy  install from a pile of floppy disks
 * apt APT acquisition (file,http,ftp)

I want to continue the installation from the CDROM discs resuming at the point 
where the Debian installation system boots from a Linux HDD, but I do not know 
how to proceed. Could someone provide assistance? Thank you.

NOTES: The BIOS of my system does not support booting from CDROM. I believe I 
am using a standard ATAPI IDE drive (Wearnes CDS-2420). The CDROM drive is 
slaved to the HDD on the primary channel of an add-in IDE controller.


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Re: Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread Nick Croft
Aaron,
You can probably play music from a cd with any cd player, you can probably
play a wav file with 
play  file.wav

but you can't play an .mp3 with xmms.  You'll need to recompile a kernel
with your sound card selected.

Have look at the Debian University: 

http://www.xnet.com/~darogers/debian_university.txt

I've just emerged from the cannot open /dev/dsp  dilemma myself.

You may still need to run xmms with sudo, even though you're in the audio
group.

Get hold of grip; put a cd in you cd; you can play any track.
Rip a track (right click on it to select).
Play it as a .wav.
Get BladeEnc.
Encode a .wav.
sudo xmms
Select your .mp3  .

You'll know then if you need to recompile the kernel.

Best wishes. 




Re: Unable to Install Debian From CD

2001-01-07 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

have you included a /cdrom line in your fstab? If the installation program
cannot find a cdrom itself, you are able to fix it this way, I think,

Greetz,
Sebastiaan

On 7 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have run dbootstrap from the Debian CD and installed the base system. I've 
> done all the steps up to the point where the system is rebooted. When it 
> reboots from a diskette, it runs the first part of the installation (set up 
> partitions, install base system etc.), but if I try to access the CD, it says 
> CDROM mount failed.
> 
> When it boots from the HDD, I see that it finds the CDROM and calls it hdb. 
> But when I run dselect, it only gives three options for access methods:
> 
>nfs   install from an NFS server (not yet mounted)
>floppy  install from a pile of floppy disks
>  * apt APT acquisition (file,http,ftp)
> 
> I want to continue the installation from the CDROM discs resuming at the 
> point where the Debian installation system boots from a Linux HDD, but I do 
> not know how to proceed. Could someone provide assistance? Thank you.
> 
> NOTES: The BIOS of my system does not support booting from CDROM. I believe I 
> am using a standard ATAPI IDE drive (Wearnes CDS-2420). The CDROM drive is 
> slaved to the HDD on the primary channel of an add-in IDE controller.
> 
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ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance

2001-01-07 Thread Arcady Genkin
I have an IBM ATA-100 30G harddrive, attached to a ASUS CUSL2-C (Intel
815EP-based) mobo.

The kernel is not even using the drive in UDMA mode.  The performance
is *horrible*: every time I copy to the disk the CPU usage goes up all
the way and I'm seeing things like "load average: 5.47, 5.02, 3.27",
which is only caused by disk access.

,[ dmesg ]
| PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b
| PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
| ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
| ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
| hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, ATA DISK drive
| hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, ATA DISK drive
| ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
| ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
| hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, 9797MB w/1900kB Cache, CHS=19906/16/63, UDMA
| hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63
`
As you can see, the other HD (which is an ATA-66 Quantum) is at least
used in UDMA mode.

What is the reason the kernel dislikes the drive so much? ;^)
Do you suppose I've missed some option in kernel configuration?  Any
other possible reasons?  Could the fact that the whole drive is one
30G ext2fs partition have anything to do with the slowness?

Many thanks for any suggestions,
-- 
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.



mutt w/IMAP4+SSL?

2001-01-07 Thread Nate Amsden
Since i got some free time this weekend i was going to try out mutt
for the hell of it ..since i hear its a good reader..but i can't
get it to connect to my IMAP4+SSL server. it connects fine to
just the IMAP4 port but i must have it connect to the SSL
port. the package description says it supports SSL and
according to the FAQ i set the configuration to use
SSL:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ more .muttrc
set spoolfile={10.10.10.1/ssl}INBOX
set folder={10.10.10.1}
set imap_user=aphro

when i load mutt:
{10.10.10.1/ssl}INBOX is an invalid IMAP path, if i
remove the /ssl it works fine, provided i turn
off my firewall for port 143 ..

from the MUTT faq:
I'd like to get my mail via IMAP!

Mutt does now officially support IMAP. Please upgrade to a 
recent version and use --enable-imap and preferably 
--with-ssl if you have OpenSSL installed to get
SSL encryption for your IMAP connections.

Then you simply set your spoolfile to "{mailhost/ssl}INBOX"
to access your email (replace mailhost with the name or IP 
of your IMAP server and omit the "/ssl" if you
don't have SSL support). INBOX is the canonical name for 
your mail spool via IMAP. With IMAP, you can have more than 
one mail folder and access them with "{mailhost/ssl}INBOX/foo 
with the name foo.



going to be a hard transition for me i think, being a pine
and netscape mailer user for the past 5+ years ..but
i trust the end result will be worth it ...im not really
looking to recompile mutt to get this working..so if it
is possible let me know what i am missing for it to work.

btw im running potato looks like mutt is 0.94-5

thanks

nate


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Re: Permissions

2001-01-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:03:35AM +0530, Sunil Thomas Thonikuzhiyil wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
>  My ls -l listing shows lines like this
> drwx--S---5 sunilsunil4096 Dec 13 09:21 Desktop/
> drwxr-sr-x5 sunilsunil4096 Aug 24 07:28 GNUstep/
>  I know s bit is suid on files and x permission on directory allows you
> to traverse it . But what does s and S  mean on directories also what 
> is the difference between S and s

s means the execute bit is also set, S means its not.  so if you
remove the s bits from those directorys you get:

drwx--5 sunilsunil4096 Dec 13 09:21 Desktop/
drwxr-xr-x5 sunilsunil4096 Aug 24 07:28 GNUstep/

see?  its done that way since the s is in the same position as an x
bit so otherwise you could not tell if the file is user|group
executable if it was s[ug]id.  

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Re: ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance

2001-01-07 Thread Nate Amsden
Arcady Genkin wrote:
> 
> I have an IBM ATA-100 30G harddrive, attached to a ASUS CUSL2-C (Intel
> 815EP-based) mobo.
> 
> The kernel is not even using the drive in UDMA mode.  The performance
> is *horrible*: every time I copy to the disk the CPU usage goes up all
> the way and I'm seeing things like "load average: 5.47, 5.02, 3.27",
> which is only caused by disk access.
> 
> ,[ dmesg ]
> | PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b
> | PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later

looks like the system doesn't know what kind of controller it is
try patching from www.linux-ide.org

nate

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> instead of /dev/hda1 or /dev/wd0a whenever i need to do anything
> related to raw devices is a performance improvment.  nor is writing
> huge kludgy initscripts or bloated daemons just so i can do:

I can't see why a daemon about 30k in size is bloated.

See it this way: The old way to manage devices is with major/minor node
numbers. There are not much free numbers these days and if we put the system
to 32 Bit numbers or the like, the kernel will be very much more bloated than
that small daemon in user-mode could ever be bloated.

One other IMO very good argument is, that with the old system the list of
numbers is used at two different locations, one in the kernel and one in /dev
or MAKEDEV scripts. With devfs there is now only one list in the kernel. (Not
to mention that numbers are given in a very chaotic way to devices.)

Last but not least without /dev being an ordinary directory one is much more
flexible with the root-dir. It's much more simple now to make / read-only
without the need vor a ramdisk and the like.

And at least i'm very pleased that now i can have a look in /dev and see
what's really there.

By the way i love dynamically managed resources and i don't like the idea that
resources are managed statically -- only think about USB.

> chgrp wheel /dev/somedevice
> chmod 660 /dev/somedevice 
> 
> and have it stick.  (past reboots)

With devfsd this is also very simple possible.

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Re: Cannot Open /dev/dsp device

2001-01-07 Thread Nate Amsden
Aaron Maxwell wrote:
> 
> Hi.  xanim complains that it cannot open the /dev/dsp
> device.  Funny thing is, I'm in the audio group and the
> device's permissions seem legit:

first be sure your audio driver is installed and is working.
i suggest playing a mp3 as root in single user mode (init 1)
to make it easiest to rule out anything else using the device.

and/or run

lsof | grep dsp

get the lsof-2.2 package for this im assuming your using
kernel 2.2 ..dont know if the package works on kernel 2.4
as i have never used 2.4.

from what i see 2 things could be wrong either something
is using the device, or something WAS using the device
but hasn't let it go, or #2 would be the audio driver
is not installed/not compadible/broken/etc.

also could be a hardware conflict which would be
related to the audio driver as it cannot load properly
if there is a conflict.

nate

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ISO problems (rsync is silently exiting)

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Symonds

Hi, 

Trying to make an ISO of potato on a windows 
box here.  Following the instructions, I ran
make-pseudo-image and now have a file called
binary-i386-1.iso in the directory which is 
634,220KB in size.  Finally, I am to patch 
this file to make the "Official" ISO.  Per
the instructions:

c:\windows\desktop\debian> rsync --verbose --progress --stats --block-size=8192
rsync.kernel.org::debian-cd/2.2_rev2/i386/binary-i386-1.iso .
NOTE: THIS IS A MODIFIED VERSION OF RSYNC.
[...]

[...]

... and that's it.  The hdd goes wild for about five minutes, and then 
it silently drops me back to a prompt.  The pseudo-image is unchanged.
hrmm ... maybe it downloaded PERFECTLY?!  Try to burn it to a CD with 
Adaptec Easy CD Creator, "this is not a valid ISO".  md5sums don't 
match either.

Any ideas?  

--
Mark




Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > "Andreas" == Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> Andreas> 2.) boot. fsck will fail. do manual fsck, remount / rw,
> Andreas> edit /etc/fstab: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
> Andreas> /boot ext2 defaults 0 2
> Andreas> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 none swap sw 0 0
> Andreas> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 / ext2 defaults 0
> Andreas> 1 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 /local ext2
> Andreas> defaults 0 2 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/tagret1/lun0/cd /cdrom
> Andreas> iso9660 ro,user,noauto
> 
> This seems to be overly complex, even for devfs. Or is the
> documentation found in
> linux-2.4.0-test10/Documentation/filesystems/devfs/README out-of-date
> or wrong?

No, but Andreas stated clearly that he don't want to use devfsd. And the above
are the internal names of devfs and the device drivers. The other names like
/dev/discs/disc0 and the like are the user friendly naming scheme which is
brought to you with devfsd. So if you don't use devfsd you don't get the new,
shorter names but only the very long internal names (which are deprecated to
use).

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Stefan.



Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Nobis
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> very funny, im sure you would like it if someone FORCED you to use
> *only* KDE or *only* gnome.  the Free software movement is about
> freedom and choices and *options*  i should have the *option* to turn
> that `feature' off.  
>
> don't force your preferences on others.  you like devfs use it, don't
> force me to do the same.  

> as soon as there is no longer any choices or options in GNU/Linux is
> it no better for me then Windows.  

Hey, than Linux is no better then Windows. Did you know that they changed the
way the caching and the VM works? And the worst: They let you no choice to use
the old system! How could they do without asking you! These bad guys!

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Stefan.



Re: another mkisofs question

2001-01-07 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 21:28:35 GMT, Peter Horton writes:
>> bash-2.03# mount -o loop -t iso9660 test.iso /mnt/loop/
>> bash-2.03# ls -la /mnt/loop/
>> total 5
>> dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Jan  6  2001 .
>> drwxrwxrwx6 root root 1024 Jul  5  2000 ..
>> -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jan  6  2001 firstfile
>> dr-xr-xr-x1 root root 2048 Jan  6  2001 seconddirectory
>> -r--r--r--1 root root0 Jan  6  2001 secondfile
>> 
>
>mkisofs takes a path not a file spec.
>
>try 'mkisofs -l -v -o test.iso .' ...

ah, thanks. that does it.

cherrs,
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busted Partition Table - How to Fix?

2001-01-07 Thread Greg Strockbine
Is there any way to fix a busted partition table?

I have Linux installed on the primary master drive, /dev/hda.
I have a seconday IDE drive,  /dev/hdc, a 40 gig Maxtor, containing
data.
The partitions on /dev/hdc are in FAT32 format.  There is
also some raw space on the drive.

I thought I would do some partiton creation and resizing on
/dev/hdc using partition magic, but it complained that the
partition table was busted, something about start and end.

I tried GNU parted and it gave me this when I did a "print" cmd:
Error: Invalid partition table on /dev/hdc - wrong signature 1

How do I fix this?

What surprises me is that I am able to mount all the partitions
on /dev/hdc and access all the files there.

- greg strockbine



package searching & soundcard issues

2001-01-07 Thread Mark Phillips

hello,

question 1:
does anyone know how to go about finding what package a file belongs to
when the package is not currently installed?  i remember seeing a method
to do this a little while back, i think it involved downloading and
zgrepping a file called Packages.gz or something, but i can't seem to find
the file anymore.

question 2:
on my debian installation, root seems to be the only user who can access
the soundcard (with xmms, etc.).  if i'm not mistaken, the souncard is
/dev/dsp. on my machine this is:

crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Jul  5  2000 /dev/dsp

i tried doing an `addgroup mark audio', but i still get `Permission
denied' when i try `cat /dev/dsp'.  can anyone give me a hand?  thanks.

-mark



Re: busted Partition Table - How to Fix?

2001-01-07 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,

in DOS you can restore the MBR with
fdisk /mbr

that will install the standard MBR for M$.

I do not know how M$-fdisk behaves when having more than one hd in the
computer, so boot with a win98 bootfloppy with only one hd installed, run
fdisk /mbr and see if you are able to do something.

To rewrite your partition table, you can use any fdisk (DOS or Linux,
AFAIK) and rewrite the partition table. Maybe scandisk will help too.

Succes,
Sebastiaan


On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Greg Strockbine wrote:

> Is there any way to fix a busted partition table?
> 
> I have Linux installed on the primary master drive, /dev/hda.
> I have a seconday IDE drive,  /dev/hdc, a 40 gig Maxtor, containing
> data.
> The partitions on /dev/hdc are in FAT32 format.  There is
> also some raw space on the drive.
> 
> I thought I would do some partiton creation and resizing on
> /dev/hdc using partition magic, but it complained that the
> partition table was busted, something about start and end.
> 
> I tried GNU parted and it gave me this when I did a "print" cmd:
> Error: Invalid partition table on /dev/hdc - wrong signature 1
> 
> How do I fix this?
> 
> What surprises me is that I am able to mount all the partitions
> on /dev/hdc and access all the files there.
> 
> - greg strockbine
> 
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Re: package searching & soundcard issues

2001-01-07 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:55:02AM -0600, Mark Phillips wrote:
> question 2:
> on my debian installation, root seems to be the only user who can access
> the soundcard (with xmms, etc.).  if i'm not mistaken, the souncard is
> /dev/dsp. on my machine this is:
> 
> crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Jul  5  2000 /dev/dsp
> 
> i tried doing an `addgroup mark audio', but i still get `Permission
> denied' when i try `cat /dev/dsp'.  can anyone give me a hand?  thanks.

Have you logged out and logged back in after you added yourself to the
group?  Apologies if this is obvious to you, just thought I'd toss it
out.

-Rob



Re: package searching & soundcard issues

2001-01-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 05:55:02AM -0600, Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> i tried doing an `addgroup mark audio', but i still get `Permission
> denied' when i try `cat /dev/dsp'.  can anyone give me a hand?  thanks.

you have to logout and relogin for group changes to take effect.

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Re: Packaging Policy.

2001-01-07 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 07 Jan 2001, Corey Popelier wrote:
> Correct, I'm sure as hell not about to do that :) But I was thinking along
> the lines of saying "look, here's an unofficial .deb of fetchmail since it
> appears to be a tad outdated, and I've had considerable problems with
> the existing one which appear to be resolved in a later version."

FYI fetchmail was officialy adopted this morning with the blessings of Paul
(the former fetchmail maintainer). I'll be sponsoring the uploads, as Chris
Ball (the new fetchmail maintainer) is in the NM queue.

BUT this doesn't mean your help is not appreciated :)  Just mail patches to
the BTS, and you'll be helping a new release of the fetchmail package to
come out faster.

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
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Re: Parallel Printer Port Problem

2001-01-07 Thread Jo Geraerts
Hello,

On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, Jeffrey S. Coppock wrote:
> lprng several times, I decided to try lpr.  LPR WORKS!  I don't know
> what the difference is, but it's enough.  I reinstalled magicfilter

Great. But i'm still wondering what whet wrong with lprng. In that
previous mail with the result of the -d switch, i couldn't see anything
wrong. But what the heck, it's working, so many happy printing
:-). Meanwhile my printer broke down :(. It's a matter of life and death
:-). 

Greetz,
Jo



Re: [debian-user] mutt w/IMAP4+SSL?

2001-01-07 Thread Rüdiger Kuhlmann

Hi!

>--[Nate Amsden]--<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Mutt does now officially support IMAP. Please upgrade to a 
> recent version and use --enable-imap and preferably 
> --with-ssl if you have OpenSSL installed to get
> SSL encryption for your IMAP connections.

$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.3.12i (2000-11-27
[...]
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  -USE_GSS  -USE_SSL  +USE_SASL
[...]

So it's just not compiled in (because openssl is incompatibel
to the GPL or some such nonsense).

Yours, Rüdiger.

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Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: Mircea Luca writes:

>> I guess that recompiling every package is not worth the
>> trouble, but recompiling multimedia and CPU intensive ones may
>> be a major gain (say, MPEG players and such).

> Yes,I was thinking more like X ,KDE ,Gnome and multimedia so I guess
> the few things left won't take that much time.:-).

Is it safe to recompile X with different flags? IIRC, X 3.3.6
shouldn't even be compiled with gcc 2.95.2 (the Makefile would look
for gcc272), because 2.95 would miscompile it. (I could be wrong).

>> BTW, you can use -O6 for your programs. If I remember
>> correctly, it will fallback to whatever is the highest mode of
>> optimization (somebody please correct me if I'm wrong -- I
>> read this a long time ago and didn't find it listed in the
>> current documentation now; the funny thing is that it's not
>> mentioned in the current potato manpage).
>> 
>> I also don't know if -O6 does the same thing as -O9.
>> 
>> []s, Roger...

> I've read something on a archive of a gcc mailing list but apparently it
> doesn't relate to the gcc we use-don't remember the link ,I
> researched this for a few hours.I got stuck at the debian/rules when
> I decided to ask for help.

Yes... I saw a few Makefiles using -O9 and -O10.

I've made some tests here modifying pentium-builder. I think the
prolem with changing it is that, if I call

gcc -O2 -O3

That'll be the same as "gcc -O3"

So it'll work if you set an env. variable to "O3" and override the
-O2, but will not work the other way araound (you can't force it to
use a lower optimization level than the one in the command line).

That's because -O2 will just enable a set of optimizations, and -O3
will enable a superset of -O2.

Unless the code was changed in order to strip the previous "-O"
setting from the arguments (Joey, if you're reading this: is it
nonsense?)...

Anyway, the difference between -O2 and -O3 seems to be loop-unrolling;
I'm not sure if it's worth recompiling everything with -O3...

J.

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Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread CaT
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 11:21:58AM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> :: Mircea Luca writes:
> 
> >> I guess that recompiling every package is not worth the
> >> trouble, but recompiling multimedia and CPU intensive ones may
> >> be a major gain (say, MPEG players and such).
> 
> > Yes,I was thinking more like X ,KDE ,Gnome and multimedia so I guess
> > the few things left won't take that much time.:-).
> 
> Is it safe to recompile X with different flags? IIRC, X 3.3.6
> shouldn't even be compiled with gcc 2.95.2 (the Makefile would look
> for gcc272), because 2.95 would miscompile it. (I could be wrong).

I've been running an X compiled with 2.95.2 since that version of
gcc has been released (I compiled it too :). I've not had X crash 
on me. Not once.

So there. :)

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undo extraction

2001-01-07 Thread M.B.Midden
Hi

if extracted GCC_2.95.2.1.tar.gz  because i wanted to compile ProFTPd , and
i want to undo it because i have no space left now in my root partition. How
can i undo the extraction or remove the files?

dunki



Re: undo extraction

2001-01-07 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:44:38PM +0100, M.B.Midden wrote:
> Hi
> 
> if extracted GCC_2.95.2.1.tar.gz  because i wanted to compile ProFTPd , and
> i want to undo it because i have no space left now in my root partition. How
> can i undo the extraction or remove the files?

rm -rf GCC_2.95.2.1

or whatever directory name was created, all sanly created tarballs
extract one directory with all the files under that.  

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Netscape 6 for Linux ?

2001-01-07 Thread irvine

Hi all

I was reading that there is a netscape 
version 6 available for Linux. Has anyone
tried it out? Can anyone foresee any 
problems in me downloading it and installing 
on my computer.

I'm using debian 2.2.

T:Irvine



Re: Packaging Policy.

2001-01-07 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:55:26PM +0800, Corey Popelier wrote:
...
> My issue is this, 5.5.3 is actually about 5 or 6 versions behind the
> times. It was from about Sept last year if I recall. Now I don't know what
> the status of the maintainer of this package is, but what are the Debian
> policy/ethical issues involved if I suddenly piped up and said I had
> [unofficial?] packages available for this?

As others pointed out this is quit acceptable.  But there is a but:)
Official packages are tested/screned, and at least uptill now I trust
them.  Now comes some one I don't no, telling me he has fixed some
probs.  Nice nice, but would I want to handover my system to this guy?
No, I wouldn't. Installing a deb has to be done as root, and noway am
I going to run a prog as root of someone I don't know.  No doubt
you're trustworthy, but I don't know for sure.  But if you would
provide the diffs, I could check for myself that you did you job and
nothing more and would be able to compile it for myself.  So please
put the diffs up somewhere too so that "apt-get source package" would
work.

A few days ago someone posted he had deb-ed the latest exim (with
the rewriting stuff per router/transporter).  I tried to do it myself,
but failed. I asked for help, but he didn't anwser anymore:( so I'm
stuck with the old version.

Had he put up somewhere the diffs I could have checked that no evil
deeds were incorperated and could have been running the latest and
greatest.

-- 
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Re: package searching & soundcard issues

2001-01-07 Thread Defresne Sylvain
Hello,

* Mark Phillips ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> question 1:
> does anyone know how to go about finding what package a file belongs to
> when the package is not currently installed?  i remember seeing a method
> to do this a little while back, i think it involved downloading and
> zgrepping a file called Packages.gz or something, but i can't seem to find
> the file anymore.

The file you need to grep is Contents-.gz that can
be found on each Debain mirror in the distributions directory
(something like /pub/debian/dists/unstable).

Bye
-- 
DEFRESNE Sylvain



Re: gpm and wheelmouse

2001-01-07 Thread Nicolas Bertolissio
> now the wheelie doodad is working happily in mozilla (not ns4 tho---gotta
> play around some more) and xterm and who knows where else...
> 
> One question...does anyone know if it's possible for the wheelie in xterm
> (wterm) to scroll through the command history rather than up the scroll
> bar?
> 
> thanks again,
> rick

create a ~/.imwheelrc

here is mine :
"Terminal"  <-- title of 
the window (xterm for you ?) I have gnome-terminal
None,   Up, Up  <-- up button
None,   Down,   Down<-- down button


modifierwheel   simulated
key button  key

for more explanation, try man imwheel

nicolas




Re: Netscape 6 for Linux ?

2001-01-07 Thread Arcady Genkin
irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I was reading that there is a netscape 
> version 6 available for Linux. Has anyone
> tried it out? Can anyone foresee any 
> problems in me downloading it and installing 
> on my computer.

I tried it.  No problems installing it at all. BUT, I don't recommend
using it.  NN6 is just a re-packaged Mozilla milestone 18, which is
not very fresh.  There have been at least two more releases of Mozilla
since M18, so NN6 is quite outdated.  Also, you have to register NN6,
which I found a cumbersome pocess; you don't have to register Mozilla.

All that said, either of the browsers is by no means a finished
product.  They are slow, bulky, and buggy.  Gotta say that I love
Mozilla's rendering engine + international languages support.
-- 
Arcady Genkin
Don't read everything you believe.



Re: Netscape 6 for Linux ?

2001-01-07 Thread Jens Luedicke
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I was reading that there is a netscape 
> version 6 available for Linux. Has anyone
> tried it out? Can anyone foresee any 
> problems in me downloading it and installing 
> on my computer.
> 
> I'm using debian 2.2.

There shouldn't be a problem with the installation.
I would recommend Mozilla, but actually there is not much defference
between Netscape and Mozilla. Both browsers are a bloated piece of crap...

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Re: GCC and EGCS

2001-01-07 Thread staf wagemakers
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:29:20PM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
> :: staf wagemakers writes:
> 
> > The latest gcc sersion 2.96 ( which is the default compiler on Red Hat 7 ) 
> > has 
> > a few bugs and isn't able to compile the Linux kernel. This version of gcc 
> > is 
> > only a pre-release therefor I wouldn't use this version at all...
> 
> There was some flame war in linux-kernel and elsewhere I guess because
> of that. It's not "pre-release". They actually picked a CVS snapshot
> that was not binary-compatible with anything else, and with unknown
> bugs, and packaged it.
> 
> I'd call our version of gcc (2.95.3) a "prerelease", but not Red
> Hat's "2.96".
> 
> The gcc people had to publicaly announce that there has never been an
> official 2.96 gcc version...

Ok, then I wouldn't never use Red Hat 7.0 :)

regards,

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Re: ldap, ldap everywhere

2001-01-07 Thread Tibor D.

Known Human Nick Rusnov wrote:


Hi.

I'm going to be running a moderately sized network, and I was wondering how
difficult it would be to setup ldap as teh authentication for it?

That's exactly what I tried today to set up, but I didn't get it really 
to work yet. But try to install slapd (openldapd) and try to get the 
authentication done with libpam-ldap in adition to the 
passwd-authentication.
The idea behind the pam-stuff is that the authentication works 
transparently, so you have not to change anything, just configure pam 
right. But I don't now how far this goes. I think some more work is to 
be done, like make that exim will get the correct users for mail 
delivery, and I don't think that adduser, passwd ... will just work on 
ldap. Does anyone know more about this?
One more thing: in the testing distribution there isn't yet the openldap 
version 2.x. If you need ldap-v3 support, you'll need v2.x, maybe it is 
in unstable?

Good luck,
Tibor



Re: ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance

2001-01-07 Thread mikpolniak

On 07 Jan 2001 03:58:45 -0500, Arcady Genkin said:

> I have an IBM ATA-100 30G harddrive, attached to a ASUS CUSL2-C (Intel
>  815EP-based) mobo.
>  
>  The kernel is not even using the drive in UDMA mode.  The performance
>  is *horrible*: every time I copy to the disk the CPU usage goes up all
>  the way and I'm seeing things like "load average: 5.47, 5.02, 3.27",
>  which is only caused by disk access.
>  
>  ,[ dmesg ]
>  | PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, DID=244b
>  | PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>  | ide0: BM-DMA at 0xa800-0xa807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
>  | ide1: BM-DMA at 0xa808-0xa80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio
>  | hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, ATA DISK drive
>  | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, ATA DISK drive
>  | ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
>  | ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
>  | hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM10.2, 9797MB w/1900kB Cache, CHS=19906/16/63, UDMA
>  | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63
>  `
>  As you can see, the other HD (which is an ATA-66 Quantum) is at least
>  used in UDMA mode.
>  
>  What is the reason the kernel dislikes the drive so much? ;^)
>  Do you suppose I've missed some option in kernel configuration?  Any
>  other possible reasons?  Could the fact that the whole drive is one
>  30G ext2fs partition have anything to do with the slowness?
> 
Well i am using the identical ibm drive on an abit mb without
ATA100 support. In my kernel config i  set IDEDMA_AUTO=y so the
kernel automatically enables DMA.
When i run hdparm  -i  it shows:
 UDMA modes: mode0 mode1 mode2 mode3 *mode4 mode5 
And hdparm -t shows disk reads about 30MB/sec.
Maybe you have to manually enable DMA for this drive.



Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread Stefan Frank
Hi Ross!

On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, Ross Boylan wrote:

> At various times I have wanted to turn off certain daemons without
> uninstalling their packages.  I couldn't find any good way to do this,
> so I wrote a little script.  I'm making it available under the GPL.
> 
> I've since discovered that the some packages also create a bunch of
> crontab jobs, and they are still cluttering things up a bit.
> 
> If there's a better way to do this, I'd love to hear it.
> 

Original script deleted.

What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to
original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care.
IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least).

Anyone got a better idea ?

Regards, Stefan



Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread sena
On 07/01/2001 at 16:31 +0100, Stefan Frank wrote:
> What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to
> original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care.
> IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least).
> 
> Anyone got a better idea ?
> 
Debian has an excellent set of scripts for this and much more..

Why don't you do (as root) "update-rc.d -f service-name remove" and later,
when you want to enable it again, do a "update-rc.d service-name defaults"?

Simple, quick and effective. :)

Regards, sena...

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Re: ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance

2001-01-07 Thread Arcady Genkin
Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > ,[ dmesg ]
> > | PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device f9, VID=8086, 
> > DID=244b
> > | PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> 
> looks like the system doesn't know what kind of controller it is
> try patching from www.linux-ide.org

Woohooo!

,[ dmesg ]
| PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9
| PIIX4: chipset revision 1
| ...
| hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63, UDMA(100)
`

Thanks!!!

The only question is whether I used the right patch.  There seem to be
two different kinds of patches (judging from the filename format), but
no documentation about the difference between them.  Any idea what the
difference would be between:

ide.2.2.18.1221.patch.gz and ide.2.2.18-27.all.20001208.patch.gz

besides that the first one is newer?

I used the first patch.

Many thanks,
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strange cron.daily message

2001-01-07 Thread Diego Biurrun
Hello!

I'm getting this email with the subject

Anacron job 'cron.daily

from anacron every day. The body of the message says:


/etc/cron.daily/status:
{module_list} {module_list_R__ver_module_list}
Warning: /boot/System.map-2.2.18pre21 does not match kernel data.


Can somebody enlighten me what it means?

Thanks

Diego Biurrun



Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread Arcady Genkin
Stefan Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to
> original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care.
> IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least).
> 
> Anyone got a better idea ?

What I do is ``chmod -x'' on the unwanted file in /etc/init.d/.  This
prevents them from being loaded.  Essentially the same thing as you
do, but I think that this way the script is going to be deleted if
the package it belongs to is removed.
-- 
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Don't read everything you believe.



Re: ISO problems (rsync is silently exiting)

2001-01-07 Thread mikpolniak

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 01:46:48 -0800, Mark Symonds said:

> 
>  Hi, 
>  
>  Trying to make an ISO of potato on a windows 
>  box here.  Following the instructions, I ran
>  make-pseudo-image and now have a file called
>  binary-i386-1.iso in the directory which is 
>  634,220KB in size.  Finally, I am to patch 
>  this file to make the "Official" ISO.  Per
>  the instructions:
>  
>  c:\windows\desktop\debian> rsync --verbose --progress --stats 
> --block-size=8192
>  rsync.kernel.org::debian-cd/2.2_rev2/i386/binary-i386-1.iso .
>  NOTE: THIS IS A MODIFIED VERSION OF RSYNC.
>  [...]
>  
>  [...]
>  
>   and that's it.  The hdd goes wild for about five minutes, and then 
>  it silently drops me back to a prompt.  The pseudo-image is unchanged.
>  hrmm ... maybe it downloaded PERFECTLY?!  Try to burn it to a CD with 
>  Adaptec Easy CD Creator, "this is not a valid ISO".  md5sums don't 
>  match either.
>  
>  Any ideas?  
>  
I did this a while back and what i remeber is that i had to
remove the block-size option to get rsync to work.



Re: Netscape 6 for Linux ?

2001-01-07 Thread Peter Jay Salzman
let me be more specific:

nice:
1. auto URL completion  (big whoop).
2. renders CSS, even if you turn javascript off (NICE)
3. it crashes less from what i've seen.

bad:
1. they took away the "bookmark button".  maybe this is small potatoes for
   some, but it's relevant to me.  i liked being able to "file" my bookmarks.
   this is what i find most annoying.
2. kerberos is completely broken (i can't access my school grades with ns6).
3. very, very, very slow to load.  even slower than previous NS incarnations
4. more junk.  if the mozilla project/AOL really wanted to do anyone any
  good, they would concentrate less on "the sidebar" and more on speed and
  stability issues.  no, i don't want to see little icons at the bottom of the
  browser that give me 'convenient access' to instant messenger or NS mail.
  i hate icons and the sidebar makes me puke.
5. assigning helper applications is now very inconvenient; i can't seem to
  make it work.  well, i was able to assign gv to postscript, but that was
  after 10 minutes of trial and error.  i think this subsystem is broken,
  because even though gv is summoned when i display a postscript object, the
  helper display doesn't "show" the postscript/gv entry; it's like the entry
  is invisible.   shit, i can't write for beans.  i hope you understand what
  i'm saying here.

i'd recommend against netscape 6.  i love CSS, so it's almost worth it for
me.  i'm thinking of going back though.

pete

On Sun 07 Jan 01, 10:10 AM, Arcady Genkin said...
> irvine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I was reading that there is a netscape 
> > version 6 available for Linux. Has anyone
> > tried it out? Can anyone foresee any 
> > problems in me downloading it and installing 
> > on my computer.
> 
> I tried it.  No problems installing it at all. BUT, I don't recommend
> using it.  NN6 is just a re-packaged Mozilla milestone 18, which is
> not very fresh.  There have been at least two more releases of Mozilla
> since M18, so NN6 is quite outdated.  Also, you have to register NN6,
> which I found a cumbersome pocess; you don't have to register Mozilla.
> 
> All that said, either of the browsers is by no means a finished
> product.  They are slow, bulky, and buggy.  Gotta say that I love
> Mozilla's rendering engine + international languages support.
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Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread mikpolniak

On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 15:52:17 +, sena said:

> On 07/01/2001 at 16:31 +0100, Stefan Frank wrote:
>  > What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to
>  > original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care.
>  > IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least).
>  > 
>  > Anyone got a better idea ?
>  > 
>  Debian has an excellent set of scripts for this and much more..
>  
>  Why don't you do (as root) "update-rc.d -f service-name remove" and later,
>  when you want to enable it again, do a "update-rc.d service-name defaults"?
>  
>  Simple, quick and effective. :)
>  
Not that simple or effective when you need to reset the
links which are not defaults. You'll have to save the original non-
default runlevels and two-digit sequence code used by init to
decide which order to run the scripts in.
When defaults is used the service starts in runlevels 2345
and stops in 016 and the links will have sequence code 20.
You will need to explicitly specify anything that does not
have these default values. 
 



Command line search and replace

2001-01-07 Thread csj
Is there a tool to do a search-and-replace from the command line? 
Something along the lines of:

replace "string one" "string foo" files-to-process

I find it a bit of a hassle to keep 100+ files open just to change an 
".html" to an ".htm." Note however that I intend to use the tool on 
other text files besides runaway web pages, such as processing a list 
of files to feed to tar.



Re: Command line search and replace

2001-01-07 Thread Michal F. Hanula
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 12:56:45AM +0800, csj wrote:
> Is there a tool to do a search-and-replace from the command line? 
> Something along the lines of:
> 
> replace "string one" "string foo" files-to-process
> 
> I find it a bit of a hassle to keep 100+ files open just to change an 
> ".html" to an ".htm." Note however that I intend to use the tool on 
> other text files besides runaway web pages, such as processing a list 
> of files to feed to tar.
> 
Use something like

for file in * do sed 's/replace this/by this/g' < $file > $file.tmp; mv 
$file.tmp $file; done

(there probably _are_ errors, check man sh)
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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread David B . Harris
To quote Stefan Nobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
# No, but Andreas stated clearly that he don't want to use devfsd. And
the above
# are the internal names of devfs and the device drivers. The other
names like
# /dev/discs/disc0 and the like are the user friendly naming scheme
which is
# brought to you with devfsd. So if you don't use devfsd you don't get
the new,
# shorter names but only the very long internal names (which are
deprecated to
# use).

Incorrect; on my system, the shortened names exist without devfsd.
Observe:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# ps aux | grep devfs | grep -v grep
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# mount -t devfs none /dev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# ps aux | grep devfs | grep -v grep
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# ls /dev/discs/
total 0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   30 Dec 31  1969 disc0 ->
../ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0
lr-xr-xr-x1 root root   30 Dec 31  1969 disc1 ->
../ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# ps aux | grep devfs | grep -v grep
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /home/david]# 

Tada :) They do exist. It's still longer than '/dev/hda1', but
'/dev/discs/disc0/part1' isn't all that bad.

Dave



Re: Command line search and replace

2001-01-07 Thread John Hasler
csj writes:
> Is there a tool to do a search-and-replace from the command line? 
> Something along the lines of:

> replace "string one" "string foo" files-to-process

Look at awk and sed.
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Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread Zach Loafman
Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >> I also don't know if -O6 does the same thing as -O9.
> >> 
> >> []s, Roger...
> 
> > I've read something on a archive of a gcc mailing list but apparently it
> > doesn't relate to the gcc we use-don't remember the link ,I
> > researched this for a few hours.I got stuck at the debian/rules when
> > I decided to ask for help.
> 
> Yes... I saw a few Makefiles using -O9 and -O10.

You should never blindly use high optimization levels. For one, there
is nothing wired above -O3, so -O9 and -O10 both fall back to -O3,
IIRC. For another, -O2 is considered for many applications the
maximum safe optimization level, so recompiling all of your packages
with -O3 might not be the best idea. (I know I've had programs I've
written die on -O3 that work on -O2). -O2 is considered to be the
"production code where you don't care about length of compile time"
option.

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Re: Command line search and replace

2001-01-07 Thread eechi von akusyumi
suggestion:

cat file | sed s/search/replace/gi >file2;cp file2 file1;

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> csj writes:
> > Is there a tool to do a search-and-replace from the command line?
> > Something along the lines of:
>
> > replace "string one" "string foo" files-to-process
>
> Look at awk and sed.
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When was /dev/gpmdata put into use??

2001-01-07 Thread John Foster
I am trying to isolate a problem with my ps2 mouse. The pointer function
does not work in console or xterm. It will cut and paste OK. I have
checked all of the various configurations and read all of the related
docs. I have determined that the problem did not exist prior to
reinstalling my systems from scratch using the current stable debian
2.2r2. I have not noticed the /dev/gpmdata prior to this install. I have
alwasy used /dev/psaux for both XF86Setup and for gpmconfig. The docs
say to use /dev/gpmdata for XF86Setup and /dev/mouse or /dev/psaux for
gpmconfig. I am certain that the hardware is OK. I want to try an older
version of gpm to see if the problem goes away. Anyone know where I can
download a slink version. That one worked fine. I like to use the mouse
functions in Midnight Commander and they do not work.
Thanks!
John



Re: CPU optimization

2001-01-07 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
:: Zach Loafman writes:

>> Yes... I saw a few Makefiles using -O9 and -O10.

> You should never blindly use high optimization levels. For one, there
> is nothing wired above -O3, so -O9 and -O10 both fall back to -O3,
> IIRC.

Yes, I think the reason to use -O10 is to use the highest optimization
level, even when a new version of gcc offers -O4 or -O5...

> For another, -O2 is considered for many applications the
> maximum safe optimization level, so recompiling all of your packages
> with -O3 might not be the best idea. (I know I've had programs I've
> written die on -O3 that work on -O2). -O2 is considered to be the
> "production code where you don't care about length of compile time"
> option.

Yes, but you may want to use those with applications which do not
crash and are CPU-intensive (mp3 or ogg-vorbis encoders are a good
example).

Now, I don't know why gcc will fail to do loop unrolling safely. :-(

J.

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dialup pp problemsq 2.1->2.2

2001-01-07 Thread Kenneth F. Ryder III
running:
Kernel: 2.2.18pre21
OS: debian 2.2r2

using dialqd/pppd setings from 2.1 setup (which works)

has the follwong uutput:
(from messsages)

Jan  7 10:41:31 zeek2 diald[153]: Calling site 192.168.0.2 
Jan  7 10:41:32 zeek2 connect: Initializing Modem
Jan  7 10:41:33 zeek2 connect: Dialing system
Jan  7 10:41:53 zeek2 connect: Connected
Jan  7 10:41:53 zeek2 connect: Loggin in
Jan  7 10:41:53 zeek2 connect: Protocol started
Jan  7 10:41:53 zeek2 diald[153]: Connected to site 192.168.0.2 
Jan  7 10:41:53 zeek2 diald[153]: Running pppd (pid = 448).
Jan  7 10:41:54 zeek2 kernel: registered device ppp0
Jan  7 10:41:54 zeek2 pppd[448]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
Jan  7 10:41:54 zeek2 pppd[448]: Using interface ppp0
Jan  7 10:41:54 zeek2 pppd[448]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 pppd[448]: Connection terminated.
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 pppd[448]: Connect time 0.1 minutes.
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 pppd[448]: Sent 267 bytes, received 361 bytes.
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 pppd[448]: Exit.
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Operation not 
supported 
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCADDRT: File exists 
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCADDRT: File exists 
Jan  7 10:41:57 zeek2 diald[153]: stop ppp0: Cannot send dump request: 
Connection refused 
Jan  7 10:41:58 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCSIFMETRIC: Operation not 
supported 
Jan  7 10:41:58 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCADDRT: File exists 
Jan  7 10:41:58 zeek2 diald[153]: start sl0: SIOCADDRT: File exists 
Jan  7 10:41:58 zeek2 diald[153]: Disconnected. Call duration 5 seconds. 
Jan  7 10:41:58 zeek2 diald[153]: IP transmitted 110 bytes and received 0 
bytes. 
Jan  7 10:41:59 zeek2 diald[153]: Delaying 2 seconds before clear to dial.


any ideas what is going on, I'm figuring that the sl0 bit is because the ppp 
failed, so the problem is with pppd, mabey?  
also: mabey its related mabey not, but every time I boot now(since I added
SLIP support to the kernel)  the printer starts dumping a page  or more of 
{z{z{z{z{z{z 
I'm using a BJ-200
all of this worked under 2.1 which I am using ot sqend this e-mail.



any ideas?








Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 08:05:43AM +, Matthew Sackman wrote:
> Try finding the line in the file /etc/inet.conf and comment it out for the
> services that you don't want to run. You may have to reboot then, or try
> restarting the internet superserver - try a "/etc/init.d/inetd restart". You
> might have to kill a few other processes or just stop them using their scripts
> in /etc/init.d/.

For servers that run from inetd, just edit inetd.conf and either
`/etc/init.d/inetd restart` (or `killall -HUP inetd`) to make inetd reread
its configuration.  No reboot is necessary.

For standalone servers, `/etc/init.d/ stop` will shut it down until
the next reboot (or runlevel change).  Follow that up with update-rc.d (read
the man page) if you want to disable it semi-permanently.

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread iehrenwald
> > chgrp wheel /dev/somedevice
> > chmod 660 /dev/somedevice 
> > 
> > and have it stick.  (past reboots)
> 
> With devfsd this is also very simple possible.

Can you give us a rundown on how to get this to work?  I followed the
instructions in the README but the permissions and owner/group bits never
stayed the way I wanted them.  (eg: root.audio for all of /dev/sound,
root.video for all of /dev/v4l, etc).  I'm using the devfsd from unstable
now.

Also, I use the NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.0.1 driver.  This driver needs
five entries in /dev to work.  I can't get devfs to keep those entries 
there across reboots.  I made a script to do make those entries every time
the system is booted but I'm sure there is a prorper way of doing it.  

Any help?  Thanks.



fixed: apt-get netscape v4.76 problem

2001-01-07 Thread Xucaen
good morning all!!

It appears I installed all the packages except
for the one I needed. netscape-smotif-476 is the
one I needed, and it takes care of all
dependencies.
The descriptions for the packages at the debian
web site is what confused me. 

thanks again for all your help!!

xucaen


> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:33:48PM -0800,
> Xucaen wrote:
> > Yikes!
> > I have done:
> > apt-get install netscape-base-4
> > apt-get install netscape-base-476
> > apt-get install netscape-java-476
> > apt-get install navigator-base-476
> > apt-get install communicator-base-476
> > 
> > but NONE of these ever installs the netscape
> > executable. or, if it is, I can't find it
> > anywhere to run it.


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mpg123/splay v winamp

2001-01-07 Thread q
debs,

some mp3's won't play on mpg123 (illegal
audio-mpgeg-header) or splay (floating point
exception), but will play on winamp on windoze.

are these mp3s bad or is there another player i should
be using.

please cc me.   

ia, t.

bentley taylor.

//




Re: package searching & soundcard issues

2001-01-07 Thread Mike
Mark Phillips wrote:
> question 1:
> does anyone know how to go about finding what package a file belongs to
> when the package is not currently installed?  i remember seeing a method
> to do this a little while back, i think it involved downloading and
> zgrepping a file called Packages.gz or something, but i can't seem to find
> the file anymore.

Another easy way : go to http://packages.debian.org , scroll down to the
bottom of that page, and use the search engine provided there.
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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread David B . Harris
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# Can you give us a rundown on how to get this to work?  I followed the
# instructions in the README but the permissions and owner/group bits
never
# stayed the way I wanted them.  (eg: root.audio for all of /dev/sound,
# root.video for all of /dev/v4l, etc).  I'm using the devfsd from
unstable
# now.
# 
# Also, I use the NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.0.1 driver.  This driver needs
# five entries in /dev to work.  I can't get devfs to keep those entries

# there across reboots.  I made a script to do make those entries every
time
# the system is booted but I'm sure there is a prorper way of doing it. 


Since I don't know much about your system, all I can do is tell you how
I got it to work.

I'm running unstable(Sid), so I just did an 'apt-get install devfsd'. If
you're not running Sid, I imagine you can pick up the source package,
and build it(using dpkg-buildpackage). You could also temporarily change
the 'deb-src' line in your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "unstable",
and do an 'apt-get -b source devfsd'.

That installed a script(s?) in /etc/init.d, which start devfsd at
boot-time. Of course, you have to have the kernel automatically mount
devfs in /dev, which is available as an option in the kernel
pre-compilation configuration. If you didn't select it there, add
"devfs=mount" as an argument to the kernel, either through
/etc/lilo.conf, or at the boot-time LILO prompt.

Then, it Just Worked(tm). All ownerships and permissions are as I'd
expect, including /dev/sound and friends.

If this doesn't work for you, would you mind giving us a bit more
information? Some things of note:

What devfs-related options you configured in your kernel,
how devfs is being mounted to /dev,
how devfsd was installed,
and anything else that is related. :)

Dave



Re: undo extraction

2001-01-07 Thread Rob Hudson
> On 20010107.0504, Ethan Benson said ...
>
> On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:44:38PM +0100, M.B.Midden wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > if extracted GCC_2.95.2.1.tar.gz  because i wanted to compile ProFTPd , and
> > i want to undo it because i have no space left now in my root partition. How
> > can i undo the extraction or remove the files?
> 
> rm -rf GCC_2.95.2.1
> 
> or whatever directory name was created, all sanly created tarballs
> extract one directory with all the files under that.  

I wrote a little perl script [1] that gets the names of the files from
a tarball, then removes all the files and directories found inside the
tarball.

It comes in real handy when a tar archive dumps into the currently
directory and makes a big mess.  Of course you can untar in a temp dir
or use the 't' option to look inside first, but sometimes I put too
much trush in where the tarballs are going to dump and get screwed.

[1] http://www.cogit8.org/download/tarball-clean.txt

-Rob



re: How to get vi to delete characters

2001-01-07 Thread DTi4565459
Most of the time I can get vi to insert characters after entering 'i'

Also know how to :wq etc

But I can't figure out how to delete characters: my book says
ndd will delete N lines; but it doesn't work.  In insert mode,
backspace key often changes case of letters.  Del key doesn't 
delete anything.  



Re: How to get vi to delete characters

2001-01-07 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 14:03:30 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> But I can't figure out how to delete characters: my book says
> ndd will delete N lines; but it doesn't work.

It's referring to ESC [number] dd.

> In insert mode, backspace key often changes case of letters.  Del key
> doesn't delete anything.  

You can delete characters using ESC x; you can delete words using ESC dw.

HTH,
Ray
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RE: How to get vi to delete characters

2001-01-07 Thread Brad Burns
Try 'x', but not in insert mode.

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: re: How to get vi to delete characters


Most of the time I can get vi to insert characters after entering 'i'

Also know how to :wq etc

But I can't figure out how to delete characters: my book says
ndd will delete N lines; but it doesn't work.  In insert mode,
backspace key often changes case of letters.  Del key doesn't
delete anything.


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re: edit apt-get sources.list (apt-get woes)

2001-01-07 Thread DTi4565459
Two problems, apt-get has stopped mounting my periph PCMCIA
cdrom (EXP).  When I try apt-cdrom add, it prompts me to
put in cdrom, but then it complains that it is not a valid block
device.  Don't understand why this has started happeing, as it
used to work fine.

So, as a workaround I mounted the CDROM, looked through
source files, and copied the x11 directory to /sources/x11 on
my hard drive.  Then tried to compile from there.  First did
gunzip *.*   then  tar *.*   ; but I don't think I have source
packages;   still have  .diff   .dsc and .tar files.How to make
progress from here??



Re: Turning off services SOLVED

2001-01-07 Thread Ross Boylan

At 04:31 PM 1/7/2001 +0100, Stefan Frank wrote:

Hi Ross!

On Sat, 06 Jan 2001, Ross Boylan wrote:

> At various times I have wanted to turn off certain daemons without
> uninstalling their packages.  I couldn't find any good way to do this,
> so I wrote a little script.  I'm making it available under the GPL.
>
> I've since discovered that the some packages also create a bunch of
> crontab jobs, and they are still cluttering things up a bit.
>
> If there's a better way to do this, I'd love to hear it.
>

Original script deleted.

What i'm doing usually is to rename the init-script under /etc/init.d/ to
original-filename.NO. This will affect all runlevels but i don't care.
IMO it's simple and quite obvious (for me at least).

Anyone got a better idea ?

Regards, Stefan


Doesn't this have a few rough spots: you get a bunch of error messages on 
startup, and if you have started a service sometime after boot it won't be 
shut down automatically when you shut down?


On the update-rc.d idea (in another message): this only turns things off if 
the script they refer to is deleted.  But I wanted to keep it around.




re: apt-get doesn't like line 13 in /apt/sources.list

2001-01-07 Thread DTi4565459
"Malformed" line 13

It is:deb file://sources/x11

What is wrong?  What do I need to get apt-get update to work



re: wvdial hangs off to pppd..... How to stop that??

2001-01-07 Thread DTi4565459

I've got my PCMCIA modem dialing now.  In DOS,with the old win31 
terminal program, I can dial up my university ISP, and connect to
a login prompt.

Under Linux, when I dial in with wvdial, the login prompt screen flashes
by without giving me time to enter text.  The pppd takes over and
starts dialing again.  Pppd can't connect, at least so far.  tail -f log
says something wrong with 8 bit, etc.  Sorry, I have to leave it
like this for now; because I've got to go over to linux box to try to
connect and get exact error message.  



Firewall Rules

2001-01-07 Thread JD Kitch
I have 2 nics in my Linux box.  One connected to my cable modem, and
the other has a windows machine attached to it, which I do
masquerading for.  I need to be able to connection via VPN from the
windows box to an outside host.  Is there a way to easily determine
what ports needs to be opened to accomplish this, or is there a way
to masquerade for the windows machine, but not do any firewalling for
that machine specifically, while still protecting my linux box?

And lastly, can any one tell me what rule I could implement to still
be able to use Napster?

TIA,
jdk



Re: making a boot disk

2001-01-07 Thread D-Man

Is that 'lba32' option supposed to allow booting a kernel  that is
located after the 1024th cylinder?  I always thought that was a BIOS
limitation, not a LILO one.

I can't use LILO for booting anyways because my BIOS doesn't allow
booting off the second IDE bus.  LILO hangs at "LI" when booting.

As I said before, I have loadlin set up for normal boots off the
harddisk.  Now I want to make a boot floppy I can use if my system
goes bad for some reason.

-D

On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:48:42PM -0500, David B. Harris wrote:

| 
| A boot disk is one way to go. You might also try adding 'lba32' to the
| top of your lilo.conf.
| 
| Assuming a recent enough LILO, you shouldn't get that error. I use
| lilo-21.6.1, installed to its own directory(/temp/lilo), and I've but
| 'lilo' on hold as far as apt and dpkg are concerned.
| 
| Dave



re: wvdial hangs off to pppd..... How to stop that??

2001-01-07 Thread Kenneth F. Ryder III
I had similar problems with that 8bit problem with my deb 2.1 with diald... 
I fixed it with /ppp/options, the setting crtscts, or xonxoff I believe.. 
try settings these on/off see what it gives you... I'm sorry I cant
remember more about it.  (if I remember correctly its like local echo, if
you have ever used terminal to connect 2 computers and you get 2 of
everything on the screen, something similar is happening to your
connection...)

hope this gives you some ideas / help

Ken
 




Re: GCC and EGCS

2001-01-07 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 04:14:04PM +0100, staf wagemakers wrote:
| On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 09:29:20PM -0200, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote:
| > :: staf wagemakers writes:
| > 
[snip]
| > I'd call our version of gcc (2.95.3) a "prerelease", but not Red
| > Hat's "2.96".
| > 
| > The gcc people had to publicaly announce that there has never been an
| > official 2.96 gcc version...
| 
| Ok, then I would never use Red Hat 7.0 :)

I second that.  I upgraded my RH6.1 system to 7.0 before I knew about
this.  Now I am with Debian.  :-)



Wishlist project ?

2001-01-07 Thread Tony Schonfeld
Good evening,

With the risk of me repeter I like Debian but it is necessary well to
acknowledge which one has as handicap the fact that when a release comes
out, one is always late of a war compared to redhat and others on the
freshness of the packages.

I believed to understand that there was precisely like project in Debian,
to
make so that one can make cohabit several library on a same installation.
That would make it possible by example to go to seek a software which one
has very took need and to install it in spite of necessary dependances
more
raised than the current versions installed.

thank you for your Tony comments



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Re: ATA-100 disk under 2.2.18 -- horrible performance

2001-01-07 Thread Nate Amsden
Arcady Genkin wrote:

> | PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev f9
> | PIIX4: chipset revision 1
> | ...
> | hdc: IBM-DTLA-307030, 29314MB w/1916kB Cache, CHS=59560/16/63, UDMA(100)
> `
> 
> Thanks!!!

cool! glad it works :)

> 
> The only question is whether I used the right patch.  There seem to be
> two different kinds of patches (judging from the filename format), but
> no documentation about the difference between them.  Any idea what the
> difference would be between:
> 
> ide.2.2.18.1221.patch.gz and ide.2.2.18-27.all.20001208.patch.gz
> 
> besides that the first one is newer?
> 
> I used the first patch.

i'm not sure, i would of used the first one too i think. check the 
filesize differences ? but if it patched cleanly and seems to be
working i'd say your set to go ..

nate

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Re: [debian-user] mutt w/IMAP4+SSL?

2001-01-07 Thread Nate Amsden
Rüdiger Kuhlmann wrote:

> So it's just not compiled in (because openssl is incompatibel
> to the GPL or some such nonsense).
> 
> Yours, Rüdiger.

ack.  too bad..i don't want to have to compile it to install on
50 different systems :(

guess i will use netscape for now .

thanks

nate

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Re: [2.4.0] migration to devfs

2001-01-07 Thread iehrenwald
> That installed a script(s?) in /etc/init.d, which start devfsd at
> boot-time. Of course, you have to have the kernel automatically mount
> devfs in /dev, which is available as an option in the kernel
> pre-compilation configuration. If you didn't select it there, add
> "devfs=mount" as an argument to the kernel, either through
> /etc/lilo.conf, or at the boot-time LILO prompt.
> 
> Then, it Just Worked(tm). All ownerships and permissions are as I'd
> expect, including /dev/sound and friends.

I did the same thing and now it Just Worked(tm).  Shrug.  Don't know what 
I was doing wrong before.  I had to add the following lines to 
/etc/devfsd/devices:

# devices file
# format: name [bc] major minor uid gid mode

nvidia0 c   195 0   rootvideo   0660
nvidia1 c   195 1   rootvideo   0660
nvidia2 c   195 2   rootvideo   0660
nvidia3 c   195 3   rootvideo   0660
nvidiactl   c   195 255 rootvideo   0660


It appeares that /etc/init.d/devfsd reads this at startup and creates the
devices listed.  I'm going through my conf files and changing them all
over to the new devfs style entries and then will remove backwards
compatability through the /etc/devfs/devfsd.conf.  Thanks for the ideas.



Re: runlevels and XF86Setup??

2001-01-07 Thread Kent Nyberg
I find it much easier to mess with the initscript with the
update-rc.d script.
To remove for example xdm from the initscript you enter:
'update-rc.d xdm remove' 
If do do that, then xdm wont start from init any more.
I dont know the exact command but you can do it the other way to, that is, 
you can make it start with init with update-rc.d

I think it is update-rc.d xdm defaults.

I just read the manpage in a hury now, so i may have got it wrong 
now, but just read the manpage and you will know what to do.


I also may have understod this thread completly wrong, please just
ignore me if this make no sense to you.
I have'nt slept for a LONG time..   nevermind if that is the case.





Re: apt-get doesn't like line 13 in /apt/sources.list

2001-01-07 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Sun, Jan 07, 2001 at 02:53:30PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Malformed" line 13
> 
> It is:deb file://sources/x11
> 
> What is wrong?  What do I need to get apt-get update to work

Not claiming to be an expert here, but shouldn't it read:

  deb file:///sources/x11


Kevin



Re: debconf

2001-01-07 Thread Joey Hess
Rob VanFleet wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 08:06:19PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Rob VanFleet wrote:
> > > How does one go about changing the message priority in debconf? 
> > 
> > You may be looking for 'dpkg-reconfigure debconf' -- without a bit more
> > explination I can't tell for sure.
> 
> Sorry about the vagueness.  Basically, when I did my initial install,
> debconf was set to only give me high priority messages, I would like to
> set this to low.  I did dpkg-reconfigure debconf-tiny and I got no
> errors, but nothing happened either.

Older versions of debconf honored your priority setting when you were
reconfiguring debconf. This turned out to be a little silly, so newer
versions do not. Try:

dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf

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sources.list line

2001-01-07 Thread Antonio

I installed the base system of potato from a Win/Dos partition
on local hard disk.  Now, I`m tryeing to install the Packages (from the
same partition) using the dselect. When I am updating (second step of
the dselect), it protest about the line one of the "sources.list" file: 

deb file:/win/main/binary-i386 main

Before it, sure, I mounted the /win filesystem with it respective line
in /etc/fstab correctily.
Who does does know what is hapen ?



Re: apt-get doesn't like line 13 in /apt/sources.list

2001-01-07 Thread Tibor D.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


"Malformed" line 13

It is:deb file://sources/x11

What is wrong?  What do I need to get apt-get update to work



No, it should be:
deb file:/sources/x11 ./

And don't forget to make the "Packages" file in that directory (with 
dpkg-scanpackages) (supposed you have there some *.deb files only). I 
don't know what the "override"-file should do, but I do it this way:

cd /sources/x11
touch ov
dpkg-scanpackages ./ ov > Packages



Re: Unable to Install Debian From CD

2001-01-07 Thread sg . au
Hello there. I have the following line in /etc/fstab:
/dev/cdrom/cdrom   iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto0  0

Thanks, Brad.

On Sun, 07 January 2001, Sebastiaan wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> have you included a /cdrom line in your fstab? If the installation program
> cannot find a cdrom itself, you are able to fix it this way, I think,
> 
> Greetz,
> Sebastiaan
> 
> On 7 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I have run dbootstrap from the Debian CD and installed the base system. 
> > I've done all the steps up to the point where the system is rebooted. When 
> > it reboots from a diskette, it runs the first part of the installation (set 
> > up partitions, install base system etc.), but if I try to access the CD, it 
> > says CDROM mount failed.
> > 
> > When it boots from the HDD, I see that it finds the CDROM and calls it hdb. 
> > But when I run dselect, it only gives three options for access methods:
> > 
> >nfs   install from an NFS server (not yet mounted)
> >floppy  install from a pile of floppy disks
> >  * apt APT acquisition (file,http,ftp)
> > 
> > I want to continue the installation from the CDROM discs resuming at the 
> > point where the Debian installation system boots from a Linux HDD, but I do 
> > not know how to proceed. Could someone provide assistance? Thank you.
> > 
> > NOTES: The BIOS of my system does not support booting from CDROM. I believe 
> > I am using a standard ATAPI IDE drive (Wearnes CDS-2420). The CDROM drive 
> > is slaved to the HDD on the primary channel of an add-in IDE controller.
> > 
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xdm doesn't start

2001-01-07 Thread Cameron Matheson



Hey,
 
I installed xdm, but x doesn't start up.  It 
says "starting x display manger: xdm", but it never does.  Anyone know 
why?
(i'm running potato w/ x4)
 
Thanks,
Cameron Matheson


Re: xdm doesn't start

2001-01-07 Thread iehrenwald
On Sun, 7 Jan 2001, Cameron Matheson wrote:

> I installed xdm, but x doesn't start up.  It says "starting x display manger: 
> xdm", but it never does.  Anyone know why?
> (i'm running potato w/ x4)

Maybe it started but didn't switch vts for you?  Try alt-F7?  Im not sure,
I don't like booting into X.  If I have to diagnose a problem it's just a
waste of time and pain in the ass.




Re: Packaging Policy.

2001-01-07 Thread Corey Popelier
> As others pointed out this is quit acceptable.  But there is a but:)
> Official packages are tested/screned, and at least uptill now I trust
> them.  Now comes some one I don't no, telling me he has fixed some
> probs.  Nice nice, but would I want to handover my system to this guy?
> No, I wouldn't. Installing a deb has to be done as root, and noway am
> I going to run a prog as root of someone I don't know.  No doubt
> you're trustworthy, but I don't know for sure.  But if you would
> provide the diffs, I could check for myself that you did you job and
> nothing more and would be able to compile it for myself.  So please
> put the diffs up somewhere too so that "apt-get source package" would
> work.

As posted just recently there has been an adoption of fetchmail with the
blessing of the current fetchmail maintainer, so I won't be putting
anything up anywhere :)

I will probably assist the new maintainer tho if necessary, as I have
already played with both 5.6.0 and 5.6.2, which are the two latest
versions of fetchmail.

At any rate, its been interesting gauging the responses of the debian
community - I could take the line that says "well ive got what I want" and
ignore the broader community, but these responses have been positive
enough to lean my thinking the other way.

Corey Popelier.




Can sometimes ftp to debian.org -> apt-get update HOWTO???

2001-01-07 Thread DTi4565459
need step by step newbie lesson on updating from ftp site.  TIA,  dave



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