Re: where's plperl?
On Tue, Nov 28, 2000 at 02:11:23AM -0600, John Foster wrote: > will trillich wrote: > > kinda like mod_perl is encased within the apache http server? > > > > boy have you got MY attention. if you ever find any info on > > this, please let the rest of us know so we can juice up our > > databases! boy would this be cool...!! > > This site has the .rpm files. > > http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/contrib/libc6/i386/postgresql-plperl-7.0-3.i386.html any chance this is working into a Debian *.deb soon? -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
xdm USB error
Hello My name is Isao. I have a question about XFree86. I have a G4 (with USB mouse) machine which I installed Debian. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ uname -a Linux kyon3 2.2.17 #1 Tue Jul 18 17:51:27 PDT 2000 ppc unknown [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc$ kyon3:/proc# more /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7400 (G4) clock : 350MHz revision: 2.6 bogomips: 696.32 zero pages : total 0 (0Kb) current: 0 (0Kb) hits: 0/214 (0%) machine : PowerMac1,2 motherboard : PowerMac1,2 PowerMac1,1 MacRISC Power Macintosh L2 cache: 1024K unified memory : 192MB pmac-generation : NewWorld kyon3:/proc# The xdm runs when that system boots. After my login, the pointer (arrow of USB mouse) does not work well. The Pointer Describe lines in /etc/X11/XF86Config is as follows. # ** # Pointer section # ** Section "Pointer" #Protocol "BusMouse" #Device "/dev/mouse" Protocol"PS/2" Device "/dev/usbmouse" I checked dev file and it exists. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ ls -l /dev/usbmouse crw-r--r--1 root root 10, 32 Dec 20 2000 /dev/usbmouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ I think the version of my XFree86 is 3.3.5. Someone, could you give me some idea to fix it? Regards, -- = General Business Information =
RE: yet another ppp failure story...
FROM: John Hasler DATE: 12/19/2000 17:41:55 SUBJECT: RE: yet another ppp failure story... W. Crowshaw writes: > Looking at the ppp debug information I have directed to a log file... It was already directed to /var/log/ppp.log. > So what should I do now? Run pppconfig as root and then use pon to start the connection and poff to stop it. If you have trouble post /etc/chatscripts/provider, /etc/ppp/peers/provider, and the output of the plog command. -- John Hasler Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I tried this too. With the same results, the output that plog would give me: Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0 Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 Dec 20 00:37:02 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: Invalid argument Dec 20 00:37:03 anima last message repeated 1024 times Dec 20 00:37:03 anima pppd[220]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0x0> ] Dec 20 00:37:03 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: Invalid argument Dec 20 00:37:04 anima last message repeated 193 times Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Modem hangup Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Connection terminated. Here's the chatscript that you requested: *etc/ppp/peers/provider hide-password noauth connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" debug /dev/ttyS0 57600 defaultroute noipdefault user wcrowshaw remotename provider ipparam provider ***/etc/chatscripts/provider # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.5. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' # modeminit '' AT&F1LW2Q0V1E1&D2&C1S0=0S7=150+MS=56 # ispnumber OK-AT-OK ATDT7621000 # ispconnect CONNECT \d\c # prelogin # ispname # isppassword # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff By the way, the modem init string I have powered from a script used on MacOS 8.0 to make the _same_modem_ connect forcing flex connection. I have checked each option with my modem manual and nothing seems controversial. Thanks for you help. -- W. Crowshaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
postfix weirdness
I'm using postfix 0.0.20001217.SNAPSHOT-1 from unstable. I've been getting errors like this one in my logs: Dec 19 00:07:37 kite postfix/postdrop[20641]: warning: mail_queue_enter: create file maildrop/384454.20641: Permission denied And: Dec 19 22:31:25 kite postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/maildrop /etc/postfix/maildrop is: drwx-wx--T2 postfix postdrop 1.0k Dec 2 00:12 maildrop/ I didn't make the directory; the package or postfix must have at some point. What's up? -- see shy jo
Re: OT: ext2resize
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:38:09AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: > just downloaded ext2resize, and am shocked to see how little documentation > there is. the HOWTO gives an artificial example using a file containing a > filesystem. the man page basically says nothing other than: > > SYNOPSIS >ext2resize > > > i'd like to use use this program, but it doesn't explain a very fundamental > thing: where does this extra space come from? i was expecting something > along the lines of: > > ext2resize /dev/hdaA /dev/hdaB > > has anyone used this program before? any pointers to documentation of > substance? can you explain how this thing works? > > thanks! > pete i was told by the GNU parted maintainer that ext2resize has been unmaintained and broken for a rather long time. instead your supposed to used resize2fs now. (iirc...) another option is simply using parted since your presumably resizing your partitions anyway. parted will do it in one step. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpsl8SWTJgu3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Postfix delivers more than once
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:44:17AM +0100, Andre Berger wrote: > Most of the time I'm the only user at this dial-up machine (progeny, > 2.2.18). I suspect a relation with my habit of short dial-up intervals > and short PPP connections. Try this: 1. empty your queue 2. connect 3. send exactly one message 4. check if it is still queued 5. once it was sent, hang up If this particular message gets delievered twice then something is broken. Are you using a relay-host? Did it ever happen with local mails? Phil
Re: Stupid question
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:21:02PM +0100, Gary Jones wrote: > Okay, stupid question time. > > What is the best way of connecting to the 'net? I don't mean the > mechanicals, which connection type to use, that sort of thing, but > rather which account(s) should do so. Preferably I don't want to > connect as root, but some things (e.g. collecting mail or news) might > be better done as root or might /need/ to be done as root, or at > least some specific user with the right permissions which might be > different for the different tasks. What's the best thing to do? I've > never really seen a decent discussion about this, since I started > fiddling about with Linux (on and off, about 2 years). > > -- Well, I think you should just continue doing things as a regular user. I get my mail via fetchmail --run as a regular user. It delivers my mail via procmail using the 'mda' keyword in the config file. I use sendmail to get my mail, kindly configured by the install-sendmail script, and run 'postconnect "/usr/sbin/sendmail -q"' from the tail end of my .fetchmailrc. So all my mail is fetched and sent in one fell swoop. News may be a bit different; I don't know if ordinary users can run the 'fetchnews' command from leafnode. In any event, you should be able to either run these periodically from a cron script as root for news or if you are doing multidrop fetchmail, or from the ppp up and down scripts. What user you connect to the net with otherwise shouldn't matter, I think. Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: I screwed up my apt/dpkg system
Scott Bronson wrote: > This message does belong on debian-user, but it's certainly not Progeny's > fault. debconf breaks under Perl 5.6. And a few Woody packages are > beginning to require 5.6... No, perl 5.6 is simply a broken package. > > Why the heck isn't debconf written in C? This happens to me ALL the > time (well, every other month or so). Something as fundamental as > debconf really should not have so many dependencies. > There are a couple of answers. I never in my wildest dreams belived that a core component of debian (perl) could break and remain broken as long as it has. I'm getting pretty dissatisfied with the job its maintainer is doing. The other answer is that since I am the one who put approximatly 150 man-days into debconf, I am the one who gets to make the decision about what lanaguage it is written in, and it was clear from the beginning that I was able to be most productive for this particular application with perl. If you feel like second guessing me, feel free to contribute to cdebconf, but there is nothing I hate more than language advocates pissing in the wind. -- see shy jo
FreeBSD --> Debian
Hi! I've been using FreeBSD for a long time now and would like to try out Debian. The install looks to be confusing. I'd like to do a network install. I can't find a straight answer in the docs... Can anyone tell me can I install via FTP? Exactly which floppies will I need to get going? Thanks in advance for any help, Eddie
Re: question regarding samba usage
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:39:44PM -0500, Walter Tautz wrote: > I am trying to get access to a home account on another unix host(solaris) > to my linux machine. It works pretty well using the smbmount command > however i would like to have this occur automagically when I login or > perhaps have the system automount this without my having to type in an extra > passwd > upon logging in. The point is it should not be necessary to have to go beyond > merely logging in at which point the samba share should already be there or > be automounted > upon the logging in action or perhaps when the machine boots. > Perhaps smbmount can be told not to prompt for a passwd. this might be possible with a PAM module, i don't know if its been done or not. or if its feasible... > > Is there anyway to make samba look into the unix passwd file other than the > smbpasswd > file. Usually the practice is to run a cronjob and add new userids to the > smbpasswd > file. Would be nice to have these be one facility for authentication. > a cronjob cannot add unix accounts to smbpasswd because the cronjob cannot know what the decrypted password is, this is required to create the smb hashes. it is possible to have samba authenticate against the unix password file. simply delete the relevant user from the smbpasswd file and hack the registry on the windows client to enable clear text passwords. if you don't use smbpasswd at all set `encrypt passwords = no' (or close tot that..) in samba.conf. the smbpasswd crap comes from MS changing win95b, win98, NT4sp4, W2K etc to send a unsalted password hash instead of the password to the server, where the hash is compared with the hash stored in the local password file, if the two hashes match the authentication suceeds. its hardly better then sending clear text passwords over the network since you can simply use the hash *as* the password. (to make it worse the hash is rather weak anyway, especially since its unsalted which makes it quite easy to brute force) in short your not really losing any security by disabling MS's so called `encryption'. MS didn't make this change for security purposes, they made it to break samba. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpTc34P1ZwOK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: I can't type any ü, ä or ö in a shell
> can anyone give me a hint wy I can't use ä,ö,ü in a shell. "less" is > also not able to show these letters. Where's the problem? What do I > have to look at to fix it? in /etc/profile use export LANG= and then, put your locale (mine is ca_ES, which means Catalonia_Spanish State). so export LANG=ca_ES you can take a look to them on /usr/share/locale/ Refer to the list of your country to put it the way you need. Aufwidersen [sic] Ignasi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
On 19/12/2000 at 19:21 -0600, ktb wrote: > Install something like "pmfirewall" or "seawall." I've used > some of the questions you answer. I don't have any urls' handy > but they should be easy to find. After installing your chains http://www.pointman.org/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://decoy.ath.cx/~sena/ gpg fingerprint: F20B 12A8 A8F6 FD1F 9B1D BA62 C424 8E73 DD2E 47C8
Re: USER / EMAIL limits
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:09:19PM -0500, Fraser McAninch wrote: > I need to limit users to email space of about 30 megs + 10 megs webspace > but I can't find the commands for this although I did read them > somewhere .. any help out there setup disk quotas. if they have thier web space in ~/public_html set a 10MB quota on the /home filesystem (you didn't just make one big bloated / partition on a multiuser system did you?) and a 30MB quota on /var or /var/mail depending on whether you split /var/mail off. im not sure if some MTAs do internal quotas or if there would be any advantage to that... the quota howto should help you with quota setup. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgprF0iGRkUme.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD --> Debian
On 19/12/2000 at 23:14 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been using FreeBSD for a long time now and would > like to try out Debian. The install looks to be confusing. > I'd like to do a network install. I can't find a straight answer > in the docs... > I don't know if this will work for you, but I found a very easy way to install Debian when I finally decided to switch from RedHat. I didn't had the Debian CD, so I was stuck with the FTP install. I downloaded the base tar file (base_2.2.tgz???) and untarred it on my new Debian root partition (which was mounted on my RedHat system). I then booted with the installation boot floppies and configured that base (small, limited) Debian system. After that, it was enough to use dselect to install all the packages I wanted)... I like this method of installation. :) Anyhow, you can find somewhere on the Debian website (www.debian.org) the Debian Installation Guide. I was somewhat confused by it, but managed to survive. I am now the happy user of a Debian system... :) Regards, sena... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://decoy.ath.cx/~sena/ gpg fingerprint: F20B 12A8 A8F6 FD1F 9B1D BA62 C424 8E73 DD2E 47C8
Re: I can't type any ü, ä or ö in a shell
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 11:59:08PM +0100, Ignasi Tura wrote: > > can anyone give me a hint wy I can't use ä,ö,ü in a shell. "less" is > > also not able to show these letters. Where's the problem? What do I > > have to look at to fix it? > > in /etc/profile > > use > > > export LANG= actually you just have to change LANG=C in /etc/environment to LANG=ca_ES or whatever. don't put export in /etc/environment though. > and then, put your locale (mine is ca_ES, which means Catalonia_Spanish > State). > > so > > > export LANG=ca_ES > > you can take a look to them on > > > /usr/share/locale/ > > Refer to the list of your country to put it the way you need. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpYatszdWZGB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD --> Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi! > > I've been using FreeBSD for a long time now and would > like to try out Debian. The install looks to be confusing. > I'd like to do a network install. I can't find a straight answer > in the docs... > > Can anyone tell me can I install via FTP? Exactly which > floppies will I need to get going? you will need boot & root disks, plus the driver disks. assuming your network card is supported you can use ftp (i prefer http) to download the base and the rest of the system. comming from freebsd im suprised it was difficult for you :) the last time i tried freebsd was 4.0-release and the installation felt much more complicated(not as bad as openbsd though). nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
you don't have a mouse on /dev/ttyS0 do you? looking at the thousands of errors from gpm makes me think of a conflict of some sort .. nate "W. Crowshaw" wrote: > > > FROM: John Hasler > > DATE: 12/19/2000 17:41:55 > > SUBJECT: RE: yet another ppp failure story... > > > > W. Crowshaw writes: > > > Looking at the ppp debug information I have directed > > to a log file... > > > > It was already directed to /var/log/ppp.log. > > > > > So what should I do now? > > > > Run pppconfig as root and then use pon to start the > > connection and poff to > > stop it. If you have trouble post > > /etc/chatscripts/provider, > > /etc/ppp/peers/provider, and the output of the plog > > command. > > -- > > John Hasler > > > > Dancing Horse Hill > > Elmwood, Wisconsin > > Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I tried this too. With the same > results, the output that plog would give me: > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima last message repeated 1024 times > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima pppd[220]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0x0> ] > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima last message repeated 193 times > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Modem hangup > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Connection terminated. > > Here's the chatscript that you requested: > *etc/ppp/peers/provider > hide-password > noauth > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" > debug > /dev/ttyS0 > 57600 > defaultroute > noipdefault > user wcrowshaw > remotename provider > ipparam provider > > ***/etc/chatscripts/provider > # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.5. > # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. > # > # ispauth PAP > # abortstring > ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT > 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' > # modeminit > '' AT&F1LW2Q0V1E1&D2&C1S0=0S7=150+MS=56 > # ispnumber > OK-AT-OK ATDT7621000 > # ispconnect > CONNECT \d\c > # prelogin > # ispname > # isppassword > # postlogin > # end of pppconfig stuff > > By the way, the modem init string I have powered from a script used > on MacOS 8.0 to make the _same_modem_ connect forcing flex > connection. I have checked each option with my modem manual and > nothing seems controversial. > > Thanks for you help. > > -- > W. Crowshaw > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
and even if you don't have a mouse it may be a good idea to kill gpm just incase /etc/init.d/gpm stop or gpm -k or killall -9 gpm or just remove it :) (i never use it ..) nate "W. Crowshaw" wrote: > > > FROM: John Hasler > > DATE: 12/19/2000 17:41:55 > > SUBJECT: RE: yet another ppp failure story... > > > > W. Crowshaw writes: > > > Looking at the ppp debug information I have directed > > to a log file... > > > > It was already directed to /var/log/ppp.log. > > > > > So what should I do now? > > > > Run pppconfig as root and then use pon to start the > > connection and poff to > > stop it. If you have trouble post > > /etc/chatscripts/provider, > > /etc/ppp/peers/provider, and the output of the plog > > command. > > -- > > John Hasler > > > > Dancing Horse Hill > > Elmwood, Wisconsin > > Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I tried this too. With the same > results, the output that plog would give me: > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima last message repeated 1024 times > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima pppd[220]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0x0> ] > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima last message repeated 193 times > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Modem hangup > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Connection terminated. > > Here's the chatscript that you requested: > *etc/ppp/peers/provider > hide-password > noauth > connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" > debug > /dev/ttyS0 > 57600 > defaultroute > noipdefault > user wcrowshaw > remotename provider > ipparam provider > > ***/etc/chatscripts/provider > # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.5. > # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. > # > # ispauth PAP > # abortstring > ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT > 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' > # modeminit > '' AT&F1LW2Q0V1E1&D2&C1S0=0S7=150+MS=56 > # ispnumber > OK-AT-OK ATDT7621000 > # ispconnect > CONNECT \d\c > # prelogin > # ispname > # isppassword > # postlogin > # end of pppconfig stuff > > By the way, the modem init string I have powered from a script used > on MacOS 8.0 to make the _same_modem_ connect forcing flex > connection. I have checked each option with my modem manual and > nothing seems controversial. > > Thanks for you help. > > -- > W. Crowshaw > > _ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD --> Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > I've been using FreeBSD for a long time now and would > like to try out Debian. The install looks to be confusing. If you think it's confusing now you should have seen it when Debian 2.0 came out :) > I'd like to do a network install. I can't find a straight answer > in the docs... > Can anyone tell me can I install via FTP? You can't install Debian off FTP. You're "limited" to http and nfs. > Exactly which floppies will I need to get going? You need the rescue disk, root disk, and driver disks. After that everything can be retrieved off the network. Basically write the rescue, root, driver-1, driver-2, driver-3, driver-4 floppy images from http://tux.creighton.edu/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/. And use those to install from. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6QGII/ZTSZFDeHPwRAhLSAKDUV7IEz7i7wT/3IKbWWSytYhwkrQCfXHF/ tA1J5X3rsaqdVBq39lUUWjk= =JxQE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: FreeBSD --> Debian
Thanks everyone...I've got all the disks and my system is backed up. Let's give it a try :) Eddie On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 23:38:46 Phil Brutsche wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > > I've been using FreeBSD for a long time now and would > > like to try out Debian. The install looks to be confusing. > > If you think it's confusing now you should have seen it when Debian 2.0 > came out :) > > > I'd like to do a network install. I can't find a straight answer > > in the docs... > > > Can anyone tell me can I install via FTP? > > You can't install Debian off FTP. You're "limited" to http and nfs. > > > Exactly which floppies will I need to get going? > > You need the rescue disk, root disk, and driver disks. After that > everything can be retrieved off the network. > > Basically write the rescue, root, driver-1, driver-2, driver-3, driver-4 > floppy images from > http://tux.creighton.edu/debian/dists/potato/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/. > > And use those to install from. > > - -- > - -- > Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC > GPG key id: 50DE1CFC > GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE6QGII/ZTSZFDeHPwRAhLSAKDUV7IEz7i7wT/3IKbWWSytYhwkrQCfXHF/ > tA1J5X3rsaqdVBq39lUUWjk= > =JxQE > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Eddie H. Lawhead Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Knexa.com - The Knext Economy http://www.knexa.com Owned and Operated by Knexa.Com Enterprises Inc. (CDNX: KNX)
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
ktb wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:02:14AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote: > > I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about > > firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want my > > system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. > > > > Is there a free (or low-cost) firewall which will work on Debian? I don't > > feel confident enough to be messing with ipchains and such. I had a look > > at Storm Firewall, but this is expensive at 99USD and seems way over the > > top for what I would need on a single workstation. > > > > I downloaded gfcc, but don't understand what to do with it. I have read > > the Firewall HOWTO but I really don't grasp much of it. I am embarassed to > > admit that I really want an out-of-box solution - something I can install > > and perhaps tweak a little as I get more confident. I don't do anything > > out of the ordinary on the Internet, just the usual mail, news and web. I > > occasionally use ReadAudio and ftp, but not a lot else. > > > > > Install something like "pmfirewall" or "seawall." I've used > pmfirewall before and it is simple to set up. Basically what > these two scripts do is write ipchains rules for you based on > some of the questions you answer. I don't have any urls' handy > but they should be easy to find. After installing your chains > take a look at them and learn from them. One other thing you > might think about is getting a cheap or free 486 and make it > your firewall. > hth, > kent I used pmfirewall too, but the problem with it is, that it only blocks certain things it knows about. The default stand is allow (!). In my opinion that is not so good. It should be deny unless the port is explicitly opened up. I think that this would be possible via a script setup too and much better. I don't know "seawall". Maybe that does it better. However, if you don't want to learn at least something about ipchains and some basics about what a firewall can do, then maybe it is ok. But then you will not know, how much security you got. just my two cents worth. Thorsten
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
At 06:02 PM 19/12/2000, Phillip Deackes wrote: I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want my system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. Is there a free (or low-cost) firewall which will work on Debian? I don't feel confident enough to be messing with ipchains and such. I had a look at Storm Firewall, but this is expensive at 99USD and seems way over the top for what I would need on a single workstation. I downloaded gfcc, but don't understand what to do with it. I have read the Firewall HOWTO but I really don't grasp much of it. I am embarassed to admit that I really want an out-of-box solution - something I can install and perhaps tweak a little as I get more confident. I don't do anything out of the ordinary on the Internet, just the usual mail, news and web. I occasionally use ReadAudio and ftp, but not a lot else. Any ideas? Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes I first installed linux I was setting up a firewall/masq maching. I found the information, and at the end, the firewall scripts at TrinityOS to be very useful. http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/index-linux.html#TrinityOS Not sure if they have a pre-made script just for a single machine, but if they don't you can just chop the masq section at the end. Steven
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
At Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:21:19 -0600 , ktb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:02:14AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote: >> I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about >> firewalls and Linux. That is an easy thing to do, you are not alone :-) > Install something like "pmfirewall" or "seawall." I've used > pmfirewall before and it is simple to set up. Basically what > these two scripts do is write ipchains rules for you based on > some of the questions you answer. You could also try http://linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/firewall/index.html Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:02:09AM -0500, W. Crowshaw wrote: > Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I tried this too. With the same > results, the output that plog would give me: > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Using interface ppp0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima pppd[220]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 > Dec 20 00:37:02 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima last message repeated 1024 times > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima pppd[220]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 0x0> ] > Dec 20 00:37:03 anima /usr/sbin/gpm[148]: Error in read()ing first: > Invalid argument > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima last message repeated 193 times > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Hangup (SIGHUP) > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Modem hangup > Dec 20 00:37:04 anima pppd[220]: Connection terminated. The above indicates that you aren't using the correct device for your modem. Apparently you are trying to use your mouse as a modem, hence the simultaneous read error by gpm. > By the way, the modem init string I have powered from a script used > on MacOS 8.0 to make the _same_modem_ connect forcing flex > connection. I have checked each option with my modem manual and > nothing seems controversial. Yes, but was that on the same machine? Maybe try /dev/ttyS1 ? -- Eric G. Miller
installing woody
Dear all I've just downloaded and burned the woody's CD images. Should I expect woody to install as potato does (booting from CD-1, and so on)? Should I use apt upgrade-distribution (don't remember now the exact command) from potato instead? Any feedback would be very welcome! * Dr. Rodolfo Canet-Castello Instituto Valenciano de Investigaciones Agrarias (IVIA) Dpto. Recursos Naturales Aptdo. oficial. 46113-Moncada (Valencia). ESPAÑA-SPAIN. * Linux user #172687 *
Info
Does Debian have a Server for Videoconference ? What have i do to make a videoconference using Debian? Thanks for help !! Simone
Problems removing kdebase
Hi Debians! I am running potato. Some days ago I removed xdm, and apt-get tried to remove all the kde-packages with it. Only kdebase was not removed. Now it is impossible to dist-upgrade new files. This is the errormessage: 8
Intel 815 chipset + Hedrick IDE patches + Reiser
Hi, Does anyone know which patches I need to get ATA100 working on 2.2.18 with this chipset (ICH2)? According to http://www.linux-ide.org/ they have a 2.4 backport to this kernel, and the patches support the chipset but they don't say to what level. It's supported - go suck, basically. They don't tell you which transfer modes (DMA 1-2-3-4-5). Also, I hear that hdparm brings back some incorrect values on ATA100 channels. Is this true? If it doesn't work, I'm going back to BSD as they have ATA100 RAID support via HPT370s, 815s and anything!! Linux really needs to keep up with them a bit more :P Also, is there any way to hack ReiserFS into Debian 2.2r2 on install? Cheers, - Chris.
Exim; local/Internet delivery
There has been a lot of traffic about Exim, so I apologise if this is old hat. I use sendmail (with the 'expensive' option) to deliver local mail immediately and queue Internet mail until my cron job connects to my dial up ISP and then does a sendmail -q Can you do the same with Exim? Incidentally the reason I chose sendmail was that the exim documentation suggested it wouldn't work with nfs mounted /var/spool/mail (and it didn't). has that changed? regards Chris
Re: Postfix delivers more than once
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 01:28:09PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Anyway, worth checking for something along these lines in your log > files... See if any delivery attempts are marked as failed for some > reason and/or if Postfix makes multiple attempts to send the mail. It's most likely to have happened when Postfix got a timeout waiting to a response to the end of DATA, in which case Postfix logs a message saying "mail may be delivered more than once". -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/
Re: Whoops
> "Ivan" == Ivan Milos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ivan> Whoops, for some reason my previous message ended up in the Ivan> subject line as well. Please do not post HTML to Usenet, period. Especially on a UNIX group, most of us are using text-based readers. Ivan> I am currently running Corel linux and I am quite happy Ivan> with it. However, I have heard about how Corel may dump Ivan> their distribution in the near future. In addition, their Ivan> progress has been slower than Debian. What I like most Ivan> about the Corel distribution is the package manager. I Ivan> really like how dependencies are handled automatically Ivan> (through a nice GUI interface). I tried Red Hat and Ivan> Mandrake, but their package managers didn't seem to do this Ivan> (maybe I just gave up on them too fast). In addition, they Ivan> both locked up my system several times. Maybe recompiling Ivan> the kernel would have helped this. Anyway, I am thinking Ivan> about moving to Debian. However, I was wondering if it is Ivan> much trouble getting KDE2 running on Debian. If so, could Ivan> somebody suggest another distribution based on Debian. Automatic dependency handling is a feature of APT, not of Corel's package manager. You'll find that it performs even better with Debian, since there are no awkward "corel" versions of packages that actually break dependencies. One GUI frontend is "gnome-apt". Other console-based frontends include "console-apt", "aptitude", and good old "dselect". There is also "stormpkg" - the package manager from the Storm distribution, now retrofitted into the Debian main distribution. I have not tried it, but I hear newbies like it. KDE2 is included with Debian. -tor
Re: Load crash from speakers at startup
"Hall" == Hall Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 06:55:13AM -0500, David Purton wrote: > >> just recently my speakers have started making a load > crash sound >> at startup around when the sound card is initialised. >> > I had the very same thing happen to me a while back. I narrowed >> > it down to be the SoundBlaster module loading; I guess it does > >> some output test, and bootup the volume levels are cranked > up. I >> wasn't able to get rid off it, until I went to kernel 2.2.17, > and >> the problem just disappeared... > It may very well be related to the module loading and possibly the > "soundbank" that's part of either the "awe" or "midi" portion. It > also doesn't help that rebooting the card apparently re-initializes > it and sets the volume to *almost* maximum. I think RedHat had a > tool that prevented this from happening too. I've a SB64AWE Pnp also, and this just happens randomly at bootup. Happened under RedHat 6.0 also. Sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't, and there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. I don't think it has anything to do with kernel versions. I do believe it has something to do with loading the module and/or MIDI soundbank. But I don't know why it does it sometimes and not others, nor have I ever bothered tracking it down. =wl -- Albert ``Willy'' Lee, Emacs user, game programmer "They call me CRAZY - just because I DARE to DREAM of a RACE of SUPERHUMAN MONSTERS!"
Debian and Pentium 4
>From Linuxgram Issue No 147 is this piece titled "Most Linux Cuts Won't Install on Pentium 4." Quoting: "In another one of those awkward little moments that we have come to expect from Intel, the chip giant has confirmed that only Red Hat and TurboLinux can be installed on Pentium 4 boxes. The rest of the Linux herd won't run on the hardware." http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=108&aid=11373 What's the real deal? Will Debian run on the new Pentium 4 or not? Or is just a case of a few tweaks to some config files?
Re: Problems removing kdebase
Jan Ulrich Hasecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I am running potato. Some days ago I removed xdm, and apt-get tried to >remove all the kde-packages with it. Only kdebase was not removed. Now >it is impossible to dist-upgrade new files. > >This is the errormessage: > >8Removing kdebase ... >dpkg: error processing kdebase (--remove): > subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 >Errors were encountered while processing: > kdebase >E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) >8 Can I safely force removing it with "dpkg -r --force kdebase"? Or can >it eventually destroy the package-database in any way? Possibly (I can't honestly remember), but --force is rarely a good idea. It's better to get the bug fixed. Regards, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > >From Linuxgram Issue No 147 is this piece titled "Most Linux Cuts Won't > Install on Pentium 4." Quoting: "In another one of those awkward little > moments that we have come to expect from Intel, the chip giant has confirmed > that only Red Hat and TurboLinux can be installed on Pentium 4 boxes. The > rest of the Linux herd won't run on the hardware." > > http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=108&aid=11373 > > What's the real deal? Will Debian run on the new Pentium 4 or not? Or is just > a case of a few tweaks to some config files? > The german computer-mag c't has tried it out: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/data/jk-11.12.00-003/default.shtml&words=Pentium Debian works with P4, Redhat and SuSE do sometimes. The problem is the IO-apic routine, which is called if you have a kernel with smp-support. joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Re: Whoops
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote: > Please do not post HTML to Usenet, period. Eh? Usenet?? Last I checked, this was a mailing list. -Rob
Re: Whoops
On Wednesday 20 December 2000 06:29, Rob VanFleet wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote: > > Please do not post HTML to Usenet, period. > > Eh? Usenet?? > > Last I checked, this was a mailing list. Do not post HTML to a mailing list. Period. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/zamm.html All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
Re: Modules and kernel upgrades
thanks On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Denzil Kelly wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:16:36 -0800 (PST) > From: Denzil Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Modules and kernel upgrades > > Yes, I had this problem a few weeks back. I posted a > message here and here is the fix that worked for me. > > Ah! What you have there is a gotcha in the current > Debian > kernel-building > documentation. Most dists put a .config in the linux > directory that > reflects > the options used to build the distributed kernel. > Debian doesn't. > However, > you can get it from /boot/config-2.2.17 (if you are > running Potato). > Copy > that file to /usr/src/linux/.config before running > make menuconfig or > make > xconfig. > > In your situation, I think the make-kpkg routine puts > the new config in > the > /boot dir. The old one will be available as > /boot/config-2.2.17.bak. > > --- dude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi all. im not sure where to find this information > > > > ive read some of the documetntaion > > > > the problem is that when i install and compile a new > > kernel > > and then make modules > > and > > > > make modules install > > > > everything seems to work, > > > > but when i boot up > > > > i see a lot of messages about modules not found > > > > what is going on? > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >
newbie: scsi
hi, i'm considering adding SCSI to my system, but i seem to be at a loss in choosing the right SCSI controller. so far i'm considering the following: 1. adaptec SCSI card 29160 2. adaptec SCSI card 19160 3. mylex dac1164p u2scsi pci 4. tekram dc-390u3d u160scsi pci afaik all 4 are linux friendly (pls let me know otherwise). i'd welcome any suggestions, criticism, etc. ps i haven't even started looking at SCSI disks yet, but i'm open to suggestions. btw i'm running debian 2.2 on an i686 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/
Re: installing pine
Quoting Dwight Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > These issues concern people who are _not_ beginners. Time is money and > taking a lot of time to configure an application is wasteful, when an equal > result can be achieved in much less time with Pine. As I said, if you're used to pine, just use the pine bindings, which someone went to the trouble of writing. If you need the exact location, it's /usr/share/doc/examples/Pine.rc . > Some years back, storage cost was an issue. But these days, when you can > buy a 5Gb drive for $130, the expense of storing Pine is only $0.02. > If Pine saved only a single $100 consulting hour in configuration time, the > tradeoff would already be gigantic in Pine's favor. The advantage offered > by mutt's smaller footprint is nill on any platform larger than a PDA or > cellphone. Kindly desist from offering this sort of advice. I am not party to institutional decisions. Oh, and read my signature. > On the contrary, the power user does want these aids. The power user wants > to make efficient use of his time by being able to quickly access help to > execute commands that perhaps he uses only occasionally, like printing an > e-mail or finding a particular e-mail by searching for a keyword, without > having to search through a nearly endless alphabetical list of commands or > waste brain synapses memorizing something he might do only once a week or > less. It sounds as if you haven't noticed that / will search and highlight in the help screen as well as elsewhere. > There is, in fact, an option in Pine to not display these lines of command > prompts. However, in 4-1/2 years of using Pine, I have not yet begun to > find these help prompts obtrusive. Well, that surprises me. > Only in one respect, that I can see based on my brief exposure, is mutt > better -- mutt is a better _threaded_ mail reader. It looks like a lot of > effort has been put into mutt's threading features. People who want a > threaded mail reader may well prefer mutt. Since I want to process my > mail _strictly_ in arrival order, threaded is not a feature I would ever > use. It beats me how you can deal with high volume lists (like this one) without threading. > Pine's help and configuration systems are vastly superior to mutt -- making > Pine much easier to learn and use on a daily basis -- I submit that these > features are highly significant for 'power users' who value their time. Submit to your hearts content. These things are a matter of opinion, religion, whatever... When I post help, I might post opinions with them, particularly when solicited, as here. But I'm not interested in discussing religious issues nor indulging in a flame war. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Permissions - Newbie Style Question
Quoting Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I have three debian based boxes running (two Corel and one potato.) On all > three machines, the default install is to allow everyone on the system to view > every directory, including each other's home directories. This is true when > using telnet or ftp as well. I really have no need to read my son's > directories nor he mine. That's an internal policy issue which you really have to decide for yourself. Individual user groups is a similar issue. > I have two questions (for now): What is the permissions setting for the home > directories. I suspect it should be something like rwx-- or rwxrwx--- if > the group is unique to the specific username. Is this correct? Is one > preferable to the other? Debian has IIRC vacillated between rwxr-s--- and rwxr-x---. Group-writable is just plain wrong. It's either not required (user groups) or it's a security hole (real groups). > to identify specific machines in this file, such as hounddog.foobar.com? Only in your own trusted domain, where you have control. Otherwise evil.foobar.com just changes its name to hounddog.foobar.com in order to connect to your machine. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
Manegold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ktb wrote: > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:02:14AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote: > > > I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about > > > firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want my > > > system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. > > > > > > Is there a free (or low-cost) firewall which will work on Debian? I don't > > > feel confident enough to be messing with ipchains and such. I had a look > > > at Storm Firewall, but this is expensive at 99USD and seems way over the > > > top for what I would need on a single workstation. > > > > > > I downloaded gfcc, but don't understand what to do with it. I have read > > > the Firewall HOWTO but I really don't grasp much of it. I am embarassed to > > > admit that I really want an out-of-box solution - something I can install > > > and perhaps tweak a little as I get more confident. I don't do anything > > > out of the ordinary on the Internet, just the usual mail, news and web. I > > > occasionally use ReadAudio and ftp, but not a lot else. > > > > > > > > Install something like "pmfirewall" or "seawall." I've used > > pmfirewall before and it is simple to set up. Basically what > > these two scripts do is write ipchains rules for you based on > > some of the questions you answer. I don't have any urls' handy > > but they should be easy to find. After installing your chains > > take a look at them and learn from them. One other thing you > > might think about is getting a cheap or free 486 and make it > > your firewall. > > hth, > > kent > > I used pmfirewall too, but the problem with it is, that it only blocks > certain things it knows about. The default stand is allow (!). In my > opinion that is not so good. It should be deny unless the port is > explicitly opened up. I think that this would be possible via a script > setup too and much better. I don't know "seawall". Maybe that does it > better. > However, if you don't want to learn at least something about ipchains > and some basics about what a firewall can do, then maybe it is ok. But > then you will not know, how much security you got. I think you may be mistaken on this point. The policy PMFirewall defaults to is ACCEPT but, at least on my installation, the last rule, in my input chain, is: target prot opt sourcedestinationports . . . DENY all l- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 n/a I'm no ipchains expert, but I believe that this rule implies that if none of the previous rules caused the packet to be accepted it'll be denied here. Now personally in addition to leaving the rule above as the last one in my input chain I set the policy to DENY, just as a precaution, but, I *think*, it's redudant given the rule above. And of course the nice thing about a script approach like PMFirewall is that it's easy to modify as you learn more about ipchains. Gary
RE: installing woody
No you haven't, because there aren't any. No official ones, anyway. Since what you have isn't something produced by Debian, you need to ask whoever produced it how you're supposed to install it. - Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.moonkingdom.net/mwilson -Original Message- From: Rodolfo Canet-Castello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 1:51 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:installing woody Dear all I've just downloaded and burned the woody's CD images. Should I expect woody to install as potato does (booting from CD-1, and so on)? Should I use apt upgrade-distribution (don't remember now the exact command) from potato instead? Any feedback would be very welcome! * Dr. Rodolfo Canet-Castello Instituto Valenciano de Investigaciones Agrarias (IVIA) Dpto. Recursos Naturales Aptdo. oficial. 46113-Moncada (Valencia). ESPAÑA-SPAIN. * Linux user #172687 * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing pine
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 12:42:19PM -0800, Dwight Johnson wrote: > Only in one respect, that I can see based on my brief exposure, is mutt > better -- mutt is a better _threaded_ mail reader. It looks like a lot of > effort has been put into mutt's threading features. People who want a > threaded mail reader may well prefer mutt. Since I want to process my > mail _strictly_ in arrival order, threaded is not a feature I would ever > use. I have used pine for a few years and switched to mutt because a bug in 3.96, 4.10 and 4.20 concerning html-attachments. I see the bug is no longer there in 4.31. With Pine I just changed the sort order to the subject-line when I read mailing list and that worked well. Mutt's advantage is that I can delete a whole thread with one keystroke. An advantage of pine which I do not find in mutt is that I could record email addresses from anywhere in the message into the address book. With mutt I can create an alias from the sender's address and have to put other addresses manually in my address book. That is a bit of a nuisance. To keep pine's address book up to date is easier and less prone to errors than mutt's aliases because you can do it from a menu and pine handles all the syntax issues. When forwarding a message using pine, the attachments are included. That is not the case with mutt. Maybe it is something that can be configured. To fine tune mutt takes a lot of time. Something I enjoy about mutt which pine do not provide is the ability to search the contents of all the messages in a mailbox for a string. Another feature of mutt which I could not figure out with pine is the ability to check different mailboxes for new mail. After using mutt for about a year now I enjoy it, but still miss some of pine's abilities. Johann -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336 / 023 55 11 568 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shall call his name JESUS; for he shall save his people from their sins."Matthew 1:21
Re: downgrade from Woody to Potato
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:53:57PM +0100, Stephan Engelke wrote: You can try the following: Replace your libc6 package with the potato version using dpkg -i with the --force-depends option. Then do apt-get -f install with your apt-get sources pointing to potato. I did this on a mixed potato/woody system to remove libc6 and packages which depended on it from my system and replace them with potato packages. I can not guarantee it to work but that is how I got a pure potato system back. If I now want to use woody packages, I use apt-get source. Johann. -- J.H. Spies - Tel. 082 782 0336 / 023 55 11 568 "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shall call his name JESUS; for he shall save his people from their sins."Matthew 1:21
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
At 5:42 PM -0800 12/19/00, Dwight Johnson wrote: Show us your chatscript. My chat script looks like this: 'TIMEOUT' '30' 'ABORT' 'BUSY' 'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER' 'ABORT' 'NO ANSWER' 'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE' 'ABORT' 'RING' 'ABORT' '% User/password invalid' '' 'ATZ' 'OK-+++\c-OK' 'AT &F1 L W2 Q0 V1 E1 &D2 &C1 S0=0 S7=150+MS=56' 'OK' 'ATDT5551000' 'CONNECT 42000' '' 'User Access Verification--User Access Verification' '' 'sername:--sername:' 'wcrowshaw' 'assword:' 'mypassword' '>' 'ppp' The ugly init screen above is basically the one I run on my mac using the same modem to connect to my ISP. I've checked it with the modem manual and its pretty non-controversial. Try dialing in using minicom. An immediate hangup like you are getting suggests a possible problem with your modem. Minicom will show you what you get back from your ISP when your call first gets answered. I will try minicom tomorrow night. Set kdebug to 7 and observe the dialup dialog with your chatscript. It's not even starting an authentication dialog suggesting that TCP/IP is not getting started. See if you can get it started manually in minicom. Hope some of these ideas help. Dwight -- W. Crowshaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Problem connecting to ISP - ethernet address for proxy ARP
Hi all, I don't know if anyone here can solve this problem, but it's worth a shot. At least someone may be able to tell me what the problem is... I'm currently running Debian/GNU Linux PPC on my Powerbook, and I get the following problem when I try to connect to my ISP. It connects, and I can ping machines. DNS works as I can ping without a problem. However, I can't browse the web. Whenever I use lynx, it resolves the address, and then nothing comes over the wire. Just a blank screen. I look through the logs and I get this message from ppp Cannont determine ethernet addresss for proxy ARP. Any hints, or clues? Is it my problem, or the ISPs? Just some further info, I'm actually living in Japan right now, so this is a Japanese ISP (Dion). I don't know if they do anything that different, but I've had no problem using the MacOS to connect, using the MacOS Remote Access. I'm connecting over a USB ISDN adapter using ACM. But I don't think this the cause of the problem either, since when I try to connect with the built in modem, I get the same results... So, any help would be appreciated. Please CC me, as I'm not subscribed to this list. Thanks in advance! Marshal
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
Gary Hennigan wrote: > > Manegold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ktb wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:02:14AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote: > > > > I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about > > > > firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want > > > > my > > > > system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. > > > > > > > > Is there a free (or low-cost) firewall which will work on Debian? I > > > > don't > > > > feel confident enough to be messing with ipchains and such. I had a look > > > > at Storm Firewall, but this is expensive at 99USD and seems way over the > > > > top for what I would need on a single workstation. > > > > > > > > I downloaded gfcc, but don't understand what to do with it. I have read > > > > the Firewall HOWTO but I really don't grasp much of it. I am embarassed > > > > to > > > > admit that I really want an out-of-box solution - something I can > > > > install > > > > and perhaps tweak a little as I get more confident. I don't do anything > > > > out of the ordinary on the Internet, just the usual mail, news and web. > > > > I > > > > occasionally use ReadAudio and ftp, but not a lot else. > > > > > > > > > > > Install something like "pmfirewall" or "seawall." I've used > > > pmfirewall before and it is simple to set up. Basically what > > > these two scripts do is write ipchains rules for you based on > > > some of the questions you answer. I don't have any urls' handy > > > but they should be easy to find. After installing your chains > > > take a look at them and learn from them. One other thing you > > > might think about is getting a cheap or free 486 and make it > > > your firewall. > > > hth, > > > kent > > > > I used pmfirewall too, but the problem with it is, that it only blocks > > certain things it knows about. The default stand is allow (!). In my > > opinion that is not so good. It should be deny unless the port is > > explicitly opened up. I think that this would be possible via a script > > setup too and much better. I don't know "seawall". Maybe that does it > > better. > > However, if you don't want to learn at least something about ipchains > > and some basics about what a firewall can do, then maybe it is ok. But > > then you will not know, how much security you got. > > I think you may be mistaken on this point. The policy PMFirewall > defaults to is ACCEPT but, at least on my installation, the last rule, > in my input chain, is: Yep the policy is ACCEPT. > target prot opt sourcedestinationports > . > . > . > DENY all l- 0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0 n/a > > I'm no ipchains expert, but I believe that this rule implies that if > none of the previous rules caused the packet to be accepted it'll be > denied here. I would not call myself an ipchains expert either. I'm still learning that firewall stuff myself. > > Now personally in addition to leaving the rule above as the last one > in my input chain I set the policy to DENY, just as a precaution, > but, I *think*, it's redudant given the rule above. > Well I had someone portscan me from outside and he found a number of ports not blocked, even though I opted to have only SSH open during setup. Don't know why that was, but it's not good. Therefore I went ahead and did a setup with policy on DENY. For learning pmfirewall served me well though. > And of course the nice thing about a script approach like PMFirewall > is that it's easy to modify as you learn more about ipchains. Yes as above, but sometimes it's better to know that you don't have the security of a packet filter than to be mistaken about the level of securtiy you really have. Greetings Thorsten Manegold
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
At 11:30 PM -0800 12/19/00, Nate Amsden wrote: and even if you don't have a mouse it may be a good idea to kill gpm just incase /etc/init.d/gpm stop or gpm -k or killall -9 gpm or just remove it :) (i never use it ..) nate You may be right about the mouse interferring with the connection. I will try that out later tonight. But I'm not so sure about a conflict between the mouse and /dev/ttyS0. I know that I have seen that device identified as the mouse in some literature. However, none of the other ttyS? work as well. /dev/ttyS0 is the only one that actually makes my modem dial. This could be because I am running Debian on Macintosh 7500 PowerPC with 2 serial ports, one for the printer and the other for the modem. Thanks for the advice, -- W. Crowshaw _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: postfix weirdness
> I'm using postfix 0.0.20001217.SNAPSHOT-1 from unstable. I've been > getting errors like this one in my logs: > > Dec 19 00:07:37 kite postfix/postdrop[20641]: warning: mail_queue_enter: crea > te file maildrop/384454.20641: Permission denied Bug #65083 - workaround is to chmod 02555 /usr/sbin/postdrop. Waiting for a fix in dpkg-statoverride to be uploaded, and then I can fix this. > And: > Dec 19 22:31:25 kite postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix > /maildrop > /etc/postfix/maildrop is: > drwx-wx--T2 postfix postdrop 1.0k Dec 2 00:12 maildrop/ > I didn't make the directory; the package or postfix must have at some point. > What's up? Bug #80117 - That'll teach me to assume that I'm in the correct directory. Fixed in 20001217.SNAPSHOT-2 Somehow, I think the two are related... lamont
Zip Drive Problems
I had a system crash and after a reinstall Problems with the Zip Drive. The Zip Drive 100 was working before the crash. Now when I try to mount the Zip DriveI get the following: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ > mount /zip mount: only root can mount /dev/sda1 on /zip [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/clay > mount /zip mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device (maybe `insmod driver'?) What has to be done to get the kernel to recognize the Zip Drive as a block device? The permission for /dev/sda1 was chaged from group disk to users and I am in the users group. This is part of "dmesg": parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778) [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2] parport_probe: succeeded parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 660C ppa: Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x) WARNING - no ppa compatible devices found. As of 31/Aug/1998 Iomega started shipping parallel port ZIP drives with a different interface which is supported by the imm (ZIP Plus) driver. If the cable is marked with "AutoDetect", this is what has happened. lp0: using parport0 (polling). And this is a part of "lsmod ppa": [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/clay > lsmod ppa Module Size Used by lp 6020 0 (unused) parport_probe 3492 0 (autoclean) parport_pc 7440 1 (autoclean) parport 7432 1 [lp parport_probe parport_pc]
Removal from list
Hi all, I read a few weeks back the many attempts the Professor had made to be removed from this list and through his final frustrations he GOT a little mad. Anyway, I am leaving the country for 3 weeks tomorrow and felt it was better to unsubscribe rather than come back to 3 thousand plus emails. So following the instructions provided at the bottom of the debian email: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". I did just that. But oh dear here is the reply: You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list. What I did find were the following approximate matches: 1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32752 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25797 [EMAIL PROTECTED] But wait those are my email address's h Confused ? Yes I am... Eileen Orbell Software & Internet Applications Capitol College mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows 98 reboot!"
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
Phillip Deackes wrote: > > I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about > firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want my > system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. I use Coyote Linux (http://www.coyotelinux.com/) on a floppy disk. I run it in a beat-to-hell Packard Bell P60 with two Linksys PCI cards. I /would/ say that you can easily pick up a similar machine for $50US, and a home networking starter kit for about the same, but that's quite a chunk of money to protect one computer. Alternately, I'd recommend a Linksys Broadband Router (seen at Best Buy last week for $80US), one with a single port. If you later decide to get more PCs inside your firewall, and cost is still an issue, you could still use the before-mentioned $50 home network kit and attach the uplink port to the broadband router. But that's just my $0.02US ;) -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
Re: USER / EMAIL limits
Fraser McAninch wrote: > > I need to limit users to email space of about 30 megs + 10 megs webspace > but I can't find the commands for this although I did read them > somewhere .. any help out there I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe you'd need to put /var/spool/mail on a filesystem capped at 30MB/user, and put /home on a filesystem that's capped at 10MB/user. This would mean placing them on physically seperate disks or at least disk partitions (on Intel). -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
Re: FreeBSD --> Debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Can anyone tell me can I install via FTP? Exactly which > floppies will I need to get going? If you don't have a SCSI card or an ISA ethernet adapter, use the IDEPCI floppies. You need rescue, root, and drivers (and only need the driver disk if you're installing the kernel from said floppies; which isn't always necessary). Boot from (!!) the boot disk, and when you're prompted, insert the (!!!) root disk. Enter the installation; follow the prompts; when it comes to package selection time, choose `simple package selection' instead of the advanced option (unless you /want/ a headache from looking at dselect for the first time). It's not difficult, just a bit time-consuming. -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
strange cron messages
now one of my debian servers reports to me this: --- Subject: Cronroot test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily /bin/sh: root: command not found /etc/cron.daily/modutils: rm: cannot remove `/var/log/ksymoops/20001216062615.ksyms': No such file or directory /etc/cron.daily/standard: mv: ./status.yesterday.1.gz: No such file or directory gzip: ./status.yesterday.0.gz: No such file or directory gzip: ./status.yesterday.0.gz: No such file or directory mv: ./status.yesterday.0.gz: No such file or directory /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd: gzip: /var/log/syslog.0.gz: No such file or directory gzip: /var/log/syslog.0.gz: No such file or directory gzip: /var/log/syslog.0: No such file or directory mv: /var/log/syslog.0.gz: No such file or directory --- Subject: Cron test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily /etc/cron.daily/modutils: rm: cannot remove `/var/log/ksymoops/20001216062615.modules': No such file or directory /etc/cron.daily/standard: mv: ./status.yesterday.3.gz: No such file or directory mv: ./status.yesterday.2.gz: No such file or directory mv: ./setuid.changes.4.gz: No such file or directory gzip: ./setuid.changes.0: No such file or directory mv: ./setuid.changes.0.gz: No such file or directory mv: setuid.changes.new: No such file or directory mv: setuid.today: No such file or directory /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd: mv: /var/log/syslog.1.gz: No such file or directory mv: /var/log/syslog.new: No such file or directory --- someone could helpe on this errors ? please answer directly as I'm currently NOT subscribed thanks, jaume
Re: Debian 2.2: download stops during "apt-get update"
> What happens if you do a flood ping? (assuming this is between 2 local > machines). Normally, you should see a dot flashing on lhs of screen, > with a dot drawn for each error. Perhaps you get no errors for a while > and then the card falls over giving you lines and lines of dots? This isn't between two local machines. During the last install, I didn't even configure the ethernet card. The only thing running is ppp (needed to download the rest of the system). If I look at ifconfig it lists no errors on the ppp0 interface after one of these timeouts. When I am back running Debian 1.3 on the server and 2.2 on my workstation, I can transfer huge files between the machines without problem. So it doesn't appear to be a general network problem. However, if I try to download something huge from the Internet on my workstation (using the server running 1.3 as a gateway), I get the same timeouts. So it looks like some kind of routing problem with packets outside my local network. netwatch doesn't show me any problems. ifconfig and route show things properly configured (as far as I can tell). I know 2.2 is now using ipchains instead of ipfwadm. Is there something the install doesn't configure that I need to? I wouldn't think this would be a problem when the server is running 2.2 and directly connected (through ppp) to the Internet. I would appreciate any ideas people have on how to troubleshoot this. Thanks, Jeff
Help - cross-compiler for powerpc-linux
I posted this once before but I have suffered a major failure with my mail system. I am a newbie to gnu, linux, and powerpc. I need to generate a cross-toolchain for host=i686-linux and target=powerpc-linux. I have Debian GNU/Linux 'potato' cds for: i386-binaries powerpc-binaries all-sources I do not have any access to a powerpc machine. My code will be for an embedded system running Linux. Can I get the required target libraries and header files to build powerpc-linux-gcc from these cds? If so can someone give me some details? If not can someone offer an alterative? - maybe even a system to ftp files from? Thanks for any help you can give Jeff Gentry, Sr. Software Design Engineer PEI Electronics, An Integrated Defense Technologies Company Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (256) 895-2106 Fax: (256) 895-
A very strange X problem
Hi. I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash in some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, the only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. / Joel
Re: A very strange X problem
Joel, I have just recently been getting the same problem. First I thought it was my processors, then I thought it was XF4, then I thought it was enlightenment. It just locks my screen with everything frozen except the mouse, which moves around fine. Maybe this isn't a hardware problem like I initially thought :) --Paul * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi. > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash in > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, the > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. > > / Joel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365
Re: A very strange X problem
I forgot to mention that in my post that I can move the mouse around just like you say. I have also thougth of it being a hardware-problem. Just out of curiosity, what gfx-card do you have? I have a 3dfx voodoo3 2000 agp, maybe there is some problem with the tdfx-driver. * Paul Barton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Joel, I have just recently been getting the same problem. First I thought it > was my processors, then I thought it was XF4, then I thought it was > enlightenment. It just locks my screen with everything frozen except the > mouse, which moves around fine. Maybe this isn't a hardware problem like I > initially thought :) > > --Paul > > * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash in > > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, the > > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. > > > > / Joel > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: A very strange X problem
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:10:06 -0500 Paul Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joel, I have just recently been getting the same problem. First I thought it > was my processors, then I thought it was XF4, then I thought it was > enlightenment. It just locks my screen with everything frozen except the > mouse, which moves around fine. Maybe this isn't a hardware problem like I > initially thought :) > > --Paul > > * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash in > > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, the > > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. Also I had these problemes, with a cheapo videocard. The one I have with 4.5 times the price of the other now wasn't really cheapo (specially down here), and problems are gone. So my guess would be that X loves video RAM and/or kind of something fast doing the job. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
Instaling dbi in debian
I have installed Perl 5, it works ;-) I have installed Mysql, it works also Now someone tell me about DBI ? Is there an easy way to install this (apt-get install DBI) Also my book on perl and mysql says about using PPM, but this I guess needs instaling too ;-) Any help getting this up and running greatfully taken !! Cheers James.
Re: Oracle
> Eric Langager wrote: > > Greetings, > > We are currently in the process of setting up the curriculum for > teaching the Oracle database system here at the University of > Advancing Computer Technology. I feel that it would be a good idea to > teach Oracle administration on some sort of UNIX platform, and I am > very interested in the possibility of using LINUX as a platform, due > to its appeal as a PC based system. > > I have talked to Red Hat, and Caldera. Red Hat did not recommend 7.0 > as a platform. They do have a special version of Red Hat dedicated to > Oracle, but it costs $2500--obviously not a solution for my students. > > Caldera encouraged me to wait until the next kernal comes out, which > may be a good idea. > > I was just wondering if there is anyone who has implemented Oracle > using Debian as a platform. I am particularly interested in Debian > because it seems to be less commercialized than some of the others. > > I would appreciate feedback anyone might have about setting up Oracle > servers on Debian LINUX. Our networking lab has Intel based systems > (Pentium) with removable hard drives, and 64 MB of RAM. I would like > to teach an implementation which would be easy for students to put > together on their own with very low cost. > In light of the heavy memory requirements some have mentioned, have you considered running Postgresql instead? It's free software, it's a perfectly full-featured SQL DBMS, and it works great on Debian well within your memory requirements. Of course, they couldn't put "Oracle experience" on their resumes then, which I'm sure would be a drawback. In real terms, it's a perfectly good learning platform.
RE: Instaling dbi in debian
yes, install cpan and use cpan to install dbi. ppm i believe is for active perls port to windows. cpan is the unix equivalent. Jason > > I have installed Perl 5, it works ;-) > > I have installed Mysql, it works also > > Now someone tell me about DBI ? > > Is there an easy way to install this (apt-get install DBI) > > Also my book on perl and mysql says about using PPM, but this I > guess needs > instaling too ;-) > > Any help getting this up and running greatfully taken !! > > Cheers > > James. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: Instaling dbi in debian
http://www.cpan.org cpan is pretty awesome for installing perl modules. Jason > > > OK, can you tell me how to do this, apt-get could not find it, > neither could > dselect ;-( > > Cheers for your help ;-) > > James. > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "james (home)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 8:35 AM > Subject: RE: Instaling dbi in debian > > > > yes, install cpan and use cpan to install dbi. ppm i believe is for > active > > perls port to windows. cpan is the unix equivalent. > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > I have installed Perl 5, it works ;-) > > > > > > I have installed Mysql, it works also > > > > > > Now someone tell me about DBI ? > > > > > > Is there an easy way to install this (apt-get install DBI) > > > > > > Also my book on perl and mysql says about using PPM, but this I > > > guess needs > > > instaling too ;-) > > > > > > Any help getting this up and running greatfully taken !! > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > James. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Problems with commercial program.
on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:39:10PM +1100, Stewart James -Stootles- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have having. I am > new to Debian but have been using redhat/mandrake for a few years. > > I recently switched to Debian. (great distro by the way) > > At work we use iplanet(netscape) messaging server and their directory > server. This means using netscape console for some of the administration > of the products. > > The netscape console is available at > http://www.iplanet.com/downloads/patches/0115.html > > I have run this before on Mandrake 7.0 to 7.2 with out issue. > > The problems is easy - get the download uncompress and run ./setup and it > seg faults, does not even start to run. Try 'strace mybuggyproprietaryprogram' and look at the last few screensfull of output prior to exit. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpOqAzXThQNK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Woody upgrade = no startx
on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 08:53:34AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello, > Yesterday I performed an apt-get -f dist-upgrade on my Woody box. > Everything seemed to be going well. This morning, I closed out my X session > and when I attempted to restart X, I got the following error: > > bash: startx: command not found > > Sure enough, it is gone. Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, any > ideas on how I can get X running again? FAQ. Read the list archives. -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpvg4dwDho8S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Whoops
on Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 06:29:10AM -0600, Rob VanFleet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote: > > Please do not post HTML to Usenet, period. > > Eh? Usenet?? > > Last I checked, this was a mailing list. Both, actually: news:muc.lists.debian.user mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org -- Karsten M. Self http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpCnVuFH0WGG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Removal from list
Eileen Orbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So following the instructions provided at the bottom of the debian >email: >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". > >I did just that. But oh dear here is the reply: > >You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list. >What I did find were the following approximate matches: >1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32752 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25797 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >But wait those are my email address's h Confused ? Yes I am... Have you tried specifying your e-mail address explicitly, that is using the subject line "unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]"? I thought the unsubscription failure mail normally suggested that. At least, it did the last time I unsubscribed from a Debian list: # If you recognise one of these addresses as being the one you # wanted to unsubscribe, send in a new unsubscribe request # containing the text: unsubscribe the_address_you_meant. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Whoops
Rob VanFleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 04:01:21AM -0800, Tor Slettnes wrote: >> Please do not post HTML to Usenet, period. > >Eh? Usenet?? > >Last I checked, this was a mailing list. Tor was replying to a posting on comp.os.linux.setup; I suppose he copied it here as a suggestion that this might be a better forum. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
"W. Crowshaw" wrote: > > At 11:30 PM -0800 12/19/00, Nate Amsden wrote: > >you don't have a mouse on /dev/ttyS0 do you? looking at the thousands of > >errors from gpm > >makes me think of a conflict of some sort .. > > > >nate > > Oh, one more thing, I attribute the gpm errors to the fact that I > have yet to get X up and running on my Debian potato install -- > another problem I am having with debian. that shouldn't cause gpm to have errors though since gpm was designed to be used without X, although X can link into it through /dev/gpmdata. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Instaling dbi in debian
http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=CPAN is the link to the source. you can either search for perl modules using cpan from the command line, or http://search.cpan.org after compiling and installing cpan, installing a bundle from the command line is as easy as # cpan cpan> install DBI it compiles and installs automatically for you, including any dependencies needed for each perl module package. hope this helps. Jason > > > http://www.cpan.org > > cpan is pretty awesome for installing perl modules. > > Jason > > > > > > > OK, can you tell me how to do this, apt-get could not find it, > > neither could > > dselect ;-( > > > > Cheers for your help ;-) > > > > James. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jason Holland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "james (home)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 8:35 AM > > Subject: RE: Instaling dbi in debian > > > > > > > yes, install cpan and use cpan to install dbi. ppm i believe is for > > active > > > perls port to windows. cpan is the unix equivalent. > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > I have installed Perl 5, it works ;-) > > > > > > > > I have installed Mysql, it works also > > > > > > > > Now someone tell me about DBI ? > > > > > > > > Is there an easy way to install this (apt-get install DBI) > > > > > > > > Also my book on perl and mysql says about using PPM, but this I > > > > guess needs > > > > instaling too ;-) > > > > > > > > Any help getting this up and running greatfully taken !! > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > James. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: A very strange X problem
I have been using the 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 AGP for a long time without problems. This new problem just started happening to me on Saturday. Oh, and I'm running cvs enlightenment on unstable Debian. --Paul * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I forgot to mention that in my post that I can move the mouse around just like > you say. I have also thougth of it being a hardware-problem. Just out of > curiosity, what gfx-card do you have? I have a 3dfx voodoo3 2000 agp, maybe > there is some problem with the tdfx-driver. > > * Paul Barton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Joel, I have just recently been getting the same problem. First I thought > > it was my processors, then I thought it was XF4, then I thought it was > > enlightenment. It just locks my screen with everything frozen except the > > mouse, which moves around fine. Maybe this isn't a hardware problem like I > > initially thought :) > > > > --Paul > > > > * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash > > > in > > > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, > > > the > > > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > > > > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > > > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > > > > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > > > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > > > > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > > > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > > > > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. > > > > > > / Joel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365 > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365
Re: USER / EMAIL limits
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:24:31AM -0600, Jon Pennington wrote: > Fraser McAninch wrote: > > > > I need to limit users to email space of about 30 megs + 10 megs webspace > > but I can't find the commands for this although I did read them > > somewhere .. any help out there > > I'm not absolutely certain, but I believe you'd need to put > /var/spool/mail on a filesystem capped at 30MB/user, and put /home on a > filesystem that's capped at 10MB/user. This would mean placing them on correct > physically seperate disks or at least disk partitions (on Intel). eh? on what archectecture can you not partition disks? -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpXXlGwmRDjC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Removal from list
An alternate solution, since I assume you want the mail once you get back from your trip, is to use a filter program to send all mail to this list to /dev/null. procmail, mailagent, and filter can do the job. HTH, -D On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 10:28:50AM -0500, Eileen Orbell wrote: > Hi all, > > I read a few weeks back the many attempts the Professor had made to be > removed from this list and through his final frustrations he GOT a little > mad. Anyway, I am leaving the country for 3 weeks tomorrow and felt it was > better to unsubscribe rather than come back to 3 thousand plus emails. So > following the instructions provided at the bottom of the debian email: > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". > > I did just that. But oh dear here is the reply: > > You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list. > What I did find were the following approximate matches: > 1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32752 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25797 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > But wait those are my email address's h Confused ? Yes I am... > > > > > Eileen Orbell > Software & Internet Applications > Capitol College > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows 98 reboot!" > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question regarding samba usage
Pending further investigation, we now allege that Ethan Benson wrote: > > the smbpasswd crap comes from MS changing win95b, win98, NT4sp4, W2K > etc to send a unsalted password hash instead of the password to the > server, where the hash is compared with the hash stored in the local > password file, if the two hashes match the authentication suceeds. > its hardly better then sending clear text passwords over the network > since you can simply use the hash *as* the password. (to make it > worse the hash is rather weak anyway, especially since its unsalted > which makes it quite easy to brute force) in short your not really > losing any security by disabling MS's so called `encryption'. MS > didn't make this change for security purposes, they made it to break > samba. > This is not true. The original LANMAN authentication that was used by IBM and Microsoft in Lan Manager, and kept in Windows 95 by Microsoft was very weak. Microsoft added NTLMv1 in the original NT4. NTLM is much more secure than LM, because it creates a 56 bit MD4 hash based on the entire password and removes the whole 7 character issue in the original LM. The default on NT4 was to allow servers to accept LM requests. There's a registry setting that disables this, but since Windows 95 did not at that time support NTLM, hardly anyone used it. Later on, Microsoft added NTLMv2 in SP4, and they also included NTLM support for Windows 98 and Windows 95, so they made the default config to not accept LANMAN authentication. This had nothing to do with samba, and a whole lot to do with all of the bad press generated by l0phtcrack. NTLMv2 improves on NTLMv1 by going from an 56 bit MD4 hash to a 128 bit MD5 hash. NTLMv2 is very difficult to attack with a brute-force method. This is a good thing, and it bothers me when Linux advocates criticize Microsoft for increasing the security of their products (especially when there are so many perfectly valid reasons to criticize Microsoft). If you disable encryption, you lose a great deal of security. I'd like to see evidence of you cracking an NTLMv2 password sent over the wire that consists of at least 8 characters with a mix of upper case, lower case, digits, and punctuation. You can get L0phtcrack at http://www.l0pht.com/l0phtcrack/.
Re: exim configuration problem (solved)
Mike scripsit: >Frodo Baggins wrote: >> Hi debianers, >> I have a small problem in configurating exim. I actualy have to ISP, >> using the one or the other depending on the time of the day. > >Is the time of day when you switch fom one to the other always the same time >of day? If it is, then here's an idea. > >Set up two different exim conf files, named something like /etc/exim.conf.1 >and /etc/exim.conf.2 Then set up a cron job or two to set up a sym link >/etc/exim.conf pointing at /etc/exim.conf.[12] as appropriate for the >current time. That was a good idea, but I did better :))) Well, when you think to it the solution is simple, someone (on the italian mailing list) sugested me to put the exim conf stuff into the script I use to connect. Now this made me think... I use pon (and poff to get out:) and they handle well the dns stuff, having a DNS file for each provider. I wondered how they did it, and I found a script named 0dns-up into the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directory (and its couterpart 0dns-down in the /etc/ppp/ip-down.d one). I simply mimiked what these scripts do and wrote 1exim-up and 1exim-down. 1exim-up safely (at least I belive it's safely) replaces /etc/exim.conf with (a copy of) the file named after the provider int the newborn /etc/ppp/sendmail/ directory. When the ppp link get dow, 1exim-down put things back. As this message proves, all goes well :))) -- Leo TheHobbit IRCnet #leiene ICQ 56656060 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GED/CS d? s-:+>-: a C+++ U+++ L++(+++)> P+++>+ E+(++) W++ N+ K? o? !w O? M V--- PS+++ PE-- Y+ GPG+ t++ 5? X- R+ tv+ b D? DI? G e()* h(+) r--(---) y(+)-->+++* --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: kde2
http://kde.tdyc.com On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:47:18 Dale Kosan wrote: > Hello,have been trying to install kde2 but apt keeps telling me I have > an error in line 28.I put the line in that I seen posted here but no > go.Can someone post the line or point me to the site where I can find > out how to continue.Thanks in advance > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help - cross-compiler for powerpc-linux
You want this: www.emdebian.org in a nutshell: echo deb http://www.emdebian.org/emdebian unstable main >> /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install task-cross-powerpc -Brad On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 09:38:55AM -0600, Gentry, Jeff wrote: > I posted this once before but I have suffered a major failure with my mail > system. > > I am a newbie to gnu, linux, and powerpc. > I need to generate a cross-toolchain for host=i686-linux and > target=powerpc-linux. > > I have Debian GNU/Linux 'potato' cds for: > i386-binaries > powerpc-binaries > all-sources > > I do not have any access to a powerpc machine. My code will be for an > embedded system running Linux. > > Can I get the required target libraries and header files to build > powerpc-linux-gcc from these cds? > If so can someone give me some details? > If not can someone offer an alterative? - maybe even a system to ftp files > from? > > Thanks for any help you can give
Re: 3c509 is being annoying
This just happened to a guy on our local LUG list. It was an I/O or interrupt port conflict. He just changed the setting by adding this line in /etc/lilo.conf: append="ether=IRQ,I/O" where IRQ and I/O are your settings. If you run: cat /proc/ioports cat /proc/interrupts You ought to be able to confirm this is the problem; then go from there. On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:37:14 Sebastiaan wrote: > Hi, > > I try to get a 3c509 network card working, which has worked before on my > system. After some research I found out that the card worked correctly > under windoze, but I can not figure out why the card does not work under > Linux. > I have disabled pnp and the card insmods well. I can also give it an > address with ifconfig and ping to the card, but I am unable to ping > another host (and vice versa). As far as I know I have no firewall running > and no special options in /etc/hosts.deny. > > What else can I try, hints? > > Thanks in advance, > Sebastiaan > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Instaling dbi in debian
apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl. You will have to read up on the DBI. zless /usr/share/doc/libdbd-mysql-perl/README.gz /Wes Wesley A. Wannemacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Instructor, Network Administrator University of Northwestern Ohio http://www.unoh.edu > -Original Message- > From: james (home) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 5:17 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Instaling dbi in debian > > > I have installed Perl 5, it works ;-) > > I have installed Mysql, it works also > > Now someone tell me about DBI ? > > Is there an easy way to install this (apt-get install DBI) > > Also my book on perl and mysql says about using PPM, but > this I guess needs > instaling too ;-) > > Any help getting this up and running greatfully taken !! > > Cheers > > James. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: A very strange X problem
Joel, which kernel are you using? I am currently using 2.2.18pre21 for the DRI for the tdfx module. I was actually using this kernel for 2 weeks before it started to freeze on me, so I assume it's not the kernel's fault. I'm already leaning towards X4 on this one. Something must be wrong with the latest build/debs since this is new problem that just popped up. I noticed that X4 updates a lot out of the unstable tree and was thinking that one of the latest debs is buggy. --Paul * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I forgot to mention that in my post that I can move the mouse around just like > you say. I have also thougth of it being a hardware-problem. Just out of > curiosity, what gfx-card do you have? I have a 3dfx voodoo3 2000 agp, maybe > there is some problem with the tdfx-driver. > > * Paul Barton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Joel, I have just recently been getting the same problem. First I thought > > it was my processors, then I thought it was XF4, then I thought it was > > enlightenment. It just locks my screen with everything frozen except the > > mouse, which moves around fine. Maybe this isn't a hardware problem like I > > initially thought :) > > > > --Paul > > > > * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash > > > in > > > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, > > > the > > > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > > > > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > > > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > > > > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > > > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > > > > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > > > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > > > > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. > > > > > > / Joel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365 > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365
Re: Firewall for use with cable modem?
I use the script here: http://firewall.langistix.com Download the script and read the README/INSTALL file. It's fairly easy to setup. The page is even labeled firewalling for dummies. Jesse On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:02:14 Phillip Deackes wrote: > I have spent much of the day getting more and more confused about > firewalls and Linux. I am having a cable modem installed soon and want my > system to be secure. I have only the one computer, and am running Woody. > > Is there a free (or low-cost) firewall which will work on Debian? I don't > feel confident enough to be messing with ipchains and such. I had a look > at Storm Firewall, but this is expensive at 99USD and seems way over the > top for what I would need on a single workstation. > > I downloaded gfcc, but don't understand what to do with it. I have read > the Firewall HOWTO but I really don't grasp much of it. I am embarassed to > admit that I really want an out-of-box solution - something I can install > and perhaps tweak a little as I get more confident. I don't do anything > out of the ordinary on the Internet, just the usual mail, news and web. I > occasionally use ReadAudio and ftp, but not a lot else. > > Any ideas? > > Cheers. > > -- > Phillip Deackes > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
need feedback on PostgreSQL clients
I am looking for a good GUI client to complement psql. What are good ones to use? I have seen pgAccess, ksql, and kpsql but I would like to know what the Debian community thinks about them. What are their good points and bad points. What would you recommend? As an aside, what would be the best way for non-*nix developers to access Postgres? TIA. -Ian
Re: A very strange X problem
Enlightenment just segfaulted on me, and this is about 30 minutes after the latest crash which just happened. I am going to switch over to gnome for a few days and see if I can get it to crash. --Paul * Joel St?bis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi. > > I have a very stange problem with xf 4.0.x. Now and then X seems to crash in > some strange way. The screen stops updating, the keyboard doesn't work, the > only thing I can do is to hit the power-button and reboot. > > This has happend with all versions of xf 4.0.x, under both redhat 6.2/7.0, > slackware 7.1 and debian (woody). > > It always happend when draging the mouse around holding one button pressed > down, in all types of programs (netscape, gqview, the windowmanager etc). > > I first thought that it was a problem with the windowmanager I user > (enlightenment), but it also happends in windowmaker and fvwm2. > > I have no clue why this is happening, I hope someone out there has. > > / Joel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Barton http://www.moonkhan.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Key fingerprint = 8C15 DF76 65BA 2866 A424 74F5 A6C2 15CA 4A55 A365
Re: need feedback on PostgreSQL clients
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:45:51 -0800 (PST) Ian Setford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am looking for a good GUI client to complement > psql. What are good ones to use? I have seen > pgAccess, ksql, and kpsql but I would like to know > what the Debian community thinks about them. What are > their good points and bad points. What would you > recommend? > > As an aside, what would be the best way for non-*nix > developers to access Postgres? Did you consider ODBC? This works with StarOffice, Windows, and I guess Macs. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
device3dfx-source ?
Hi, I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? Thanks, Joerg
Re: need feedback on PostgreSQL clients
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Ian Setford wrote: > I am looking for a good GUI client to complement > psql. What are good ones to use? I have seen > pgAccess, ksql, and kpsql but I would like to know > what the Debian community thinks about them. What are > their good points and bad points. What would you > recommend? > > As an aside, what would be the best way for non-*nix > developers to access Postgres? > Personally I prefer to have an Apache webserver running PHP4 access my pqsql server (http://www.phpwizard.net/projects/phpPgAdmin/) There is a simlilair tool for mysql there too (it's what they started with, to bad they didn't use any abstraction layer :/).
Re: device3dfx-source ?
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:02:09PM +0100, Joerg Huber wrote: > I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket > mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the > module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? I know for sure that it works with Voodoo 3 Phil
Re: installing pine
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Dwight Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > These issues concern people who are _not_ beginners. Time is money and > > taking a lot of time to configure an application is wasteful, when an equal > > result can be achieved in much less time with Pine. > > As I said, if you're used to pine, just use the pine bindings, > which someone went to the trouble of writing. If you need the > exact location, it's /usr/share/doc/examples/Pine.rc . It was the great help features of Pine which are not developed in mutt which I was referring to when I said 'issues'. The bindings are not an issue. > > Some years back, storage cost was an issue. But these days, when you can > > buy a 5Gb drive for $130, the expense of storing Pine is only $0.02. > > If Pine saved only a single $100 consulting hour in configuration time, the > > tradeoff would already be gigantic in Pine's favor. The advantage offered > > by mutt's smaller footprint is nill on any platform larger than a PDA or > > cellphone. > > Kindly desist from offering this sort of advice. I am not party to > institutional decisions. Oh, and read my signature. My condolences. I didn't realize you work at Stonehenge. :-) > > On the contrary, the power user does want these aids. The power user wants > > to make efficient use of his time by being able to quickly access help to > > execute commands that perhaps he uses only occasionally, like printing an > > e-mail or finding a particular e-mail by searching for a keyword, without > > having to search through a nearly endless alphabetical list of commands or > > waste brain synapses memorizing something he might do only once a week or > > less. > > It sounds as if you haven't noticed that / will search and highlight > in the help screen as well as elsewhere. No, I had not noticed that. I have not yet invested the requisite man-day studying the mutt documentation in order to notice that feature. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. > > Only in one respect, that I can see based on my brief exposure, is mutt > > better -- mutt is a better _threaded_ mail reader. It looks like a lot of > > effort has been put into mutt's threading features. People who want a > > threaded mail reader may well prefer mutt. Since I want to process my > > mail _strictly_ in arrival order, threaded is not a feature I would ever > > use. > > It beats me how you can deal with high volume lists (like this one) > without threading. If I am reading e-mail continually during my work throughout the day, what is optimal is vastly different from reading it perhaps only once or twice a day. In the latter case, the advantages of threaded mailreading are much greater. But then I think I would be at great risk of missing high priority personal mail unless it were filtered into its own folder. In fact, in that case, I think I would want a cron job to check the personal mail folder and command my computer to emit a beep at intervals to alert me that I have personal mail. My pattern of work _is_ changing as I no longer have a business I am glued to. But, to answer your question: when reading and answering e-mail was an integral and continual part of my work, it was no problem dealing with high volume lists without threading because I checked messages so often that I dispatched messages before threads built up. I do acknowledge that the threading and color enhanced features of mutt are really great and way ahead of what Pine has to offer. > > Pine's help and configuration systems are vastly superior to mutt -- making > > Pine much easier to learn and use on a daily basis -- I submit that these > > features are highly significant for 'power users' who value their time. > > Submit to your hearts content. These things are a matter of opinion, > religion, whatever... I see. Your opinions are a matter of fact, but mine are merely religion. > When I post help, I might post opinions with them, particularly > when solicited, as here. But I'm not interested in discussing > religious issues nor indulging in a flame war. Very well then. You get the last word. I am through. I will continue to try to learn and use Mutt as time permits. But when my time is important, I will be forced to continue to use Pine. Dwight
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PS> On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 07:02:09PM +0100, Joerg Huber wrote: JH> I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the JH> debian-paket mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out JH> for what kind of card the module will work. Does anyone use this JH> kernel-module ? PS> PS> I know for sure that it works with Voodoo 3 I can confirm that. If you're running unstable, though, it's unnecessary; the combination of XFree86 4.0 and the tdfx driver from the 2.2.18/2.4.0preX kernels works very well (IMHO, better than in XFree86 3.3.x). I have a Voodoo3 2000 and I'm pretty happy with it. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, W. Crowshaw wrote: > ... /dev/ttyS0 is the only one > that actually makes my modem dial. This could be because I am > running Debian on Macintosh 7500 PowerPC with 2 serial ports, one for > the printer and the other for the modem. Aha! You are on a Mac? You must have had to custom compile your kernel. Are you sure you have the PPP module installed. Check with: more /proc/modules Dwight
Re: Removal from list
Yes Colin I tried that as well. Only 48 hours till I fly too. Im trying though to get off this list as quietly as possible.. At 04:54 PM 12/20/2000 +, you wrote: Eileen Orbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >So following the instructions provided at the bottom of the debian >email: >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". > >I did just that. But oh dear here is the reply: > >You have not been removed, I couldn't find your name on the list. >What I did find were the following approximate matches: >1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 32752 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >1121 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25797 [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >But wait those are my email address's h Confused ? Yes I am... Have you tried specifying your e-mail address explicitly, that is using the subject line "unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]"? I thought the unsubscription failure mail normally suggested that. At least, it did the last time I unsubscribed from a Debian list: # If you recognise one of these addresses as being the one you # wanted to unsubscribe, send in a new unsubscribe request # containing the text: unsubscribe the_address_you_meant. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eileen Orbell Software & Internet Applications Capitol College mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is Linux Country. On a quiet night you can hear Windows 98 reboot!"
Re: yet another ppp failure story...
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, W. Crowshaw wrote: > At 5:42 PM -0800 12/19/00, Dwight Johnson wrote: > > > >Show us your chatscript. > > > > My chat script looks like this: > 'TIMEOUT' '30' > 'ABORT' 'BUSY' > 'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER' > 'ABORT' 'NO ANSWER' > 'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE' > 'ABORT' 'RING' > 'ABORT' '% User/password invalid' > '' 'ATZ' > 'OK-+++\c-OK' 'AT &F1 L W2 Q0 V1 E1 &D2 &C1 S0=0 S7=150+MS=56' > 'OK' 'ATDT5551000' > 'CONNECT 42000' '' > 'User Access Verification--User Access Verification' '' > 'sername:--sername:' 'wcrowshaw' > 'assword:' 'mypassword' > '>' 'ppp' Your chat script is quite suspect. How did you come up with this weird chat script? Most ISPs are authenticating with PAP (or MS CHAP) these days. If your ISP does authenticate this way (unlikely), you will be able to verify it in minicom by doing it manually. After entering 'ppp' at your console in minicom, you should see the PPP stream start -- it's a profusion of weird characters spewing over your screen. But if your ISP does authenticate this way, you should see the prompts from the left side of your chat script appear for you to respond to. > The ugly init screen above is basically the one I run on my mac using > the same modem to connect to my ISP. I've checked it with the modem > manual and its pretty non-controversial. > > > >Try dialing in using minicom. An immediate hangup like you are getting > >suggests a possible problem with your modem. > > > >Minicom will show you what you get back from your ISP when your call first > >gets answered. > > > I will try minicom tomorrow night. The PPP-HOWTO by Robert Hart goes into the details of making this manual connection in minicom. My version is from 1997 but I highly recommend your reading it. On your Mac, you may have to revert to a custom-built script and the PPP-HOWTO will show you how to put it together. > >Set kdebug to 7 and observe the dialup dialog with your chatscript. Still recommended. You would probably view this output in /var/log/messages unless you have routed it elsewhere. > >It's not even starting an authentication dialog suggesting that TCP/IP is > >not getting started. See if you can get it started manually in minicom. I should have said 'suggesting that PPP is not getting started'. Sorry if that caused any confusion. Dwight
exim filter woes
I've set up fetchmail to grab mail from 2 ISP's and send the mail to exim. The mail is then run through my .forward file. After that I've been accessing the mail (which is on my server) from my workstation on another computer. I'm currently trying both balsa (stable version) and Netscape messenger (4.76). I'm looking for an email client that supports IMAP but will still let me run the email clients filter files without transferring them off the server to my local machine. In other words, I'd like to keep all the mail on the server, access it from my workstation, download "copies" to my workstation, and then apply the email client's filters. For some reason, Netscape will only "transfer" the mail to my workstation so the copies are lost off the server (not what I want). Balsa on the other hand does fine execpt it has no filtering capability. In addition, I can't seem to get my exim .forward file to correctly create a seperate mailing list folder (it does fine on the debian ones, these are other lists) so I can't access half my mail when using balsa. I'm not committed to doing this one way. I'd just like some ideas on "a" way to do this. The real question is: How can I keep all my mail on my server, and download copies locally to my workstation so I can filter them? Any suggestions or examples of how anyone has done this would be a boone. TIA, Jesse
Re: 3c509 is being annoying SOLVED
High, thanks for all your help, it works now. The soundcard was the culprit, it shared the same io. Thanks, Sebastiaan On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Sebastiaan wrote: > Hi, > > I try to get a 3c509 network card working, which has worked before on my > system. After some research I found out that the card worked correctly > under windoze, but I can not figure out why the card does not work under > Linux. > I have disabled pnp and the card insmods well. I can also give it an > address with ifconfig and ping to the card, but I am unable to ping > another host (and vice versa). As far as I know I have no firewall running > and no special options in /etc/hosts.deny. > > What else can I try, hints? > > Thanks in advance, > Sebastiaan > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: device3dfx-source ?
Joerg Huber wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to buy a Voodoo 3000 graphics card and found the debian-paket > mentioned in the subject. But I could not figure out for what kind of card the > module will work. Does anyone use this kernel-module ? > > Thanks, > Joerg Not since XFree86-4 was committed to Woody and DRI is a part of Linux-2.2.18. My Banshee and my V3-3000 are humming along quite nicely running OpenGL screensavers (apt-get install xscreensaver-gl) almost faster than I can see what's going on, not to mention Heavy Gear II ;). IF you are running Potato and IF you are using XFree86-3, dev3dfx is a bear to deal with. I'd recommend at least updating the kernel on your Potato box to 2.2.18 and upgrading X (via compiling it yourself or using the unsupported debs), it's much less of a headache in the long run, and you'll probably be quite a bit happier with it. -- -=|JP|=-"Why, oh, why didn't I take the blue pill?" Jon Pennington| Atipa Linux Solutions -o) [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.atipa.com/\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-595-3000 x1550 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C
lilo does not listen?
Hi, I am trying to set up a harddiskless workstation. Almost everything works fine, execpt lilo. I have made a bootfloppy with the following kernel options: append="root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.1:/mnt/nfs ip=192.168.1.2:192.168.1.1:192.168.1.1:255.255.255.0:lament:eth0:" as decribed in various documents. But when I boot the client computer, the kernel says: eth0: Setting Rx mode to 1 addresses. IP-Config: Complete: device=eth0, addr=192.168.1.2, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=192.168.1.1, host=lamet, domain=, nis-domain=(none), bootserver=192.168.1.1, rootserver=192.168.1.1, rootpath= Partition chech:< and then the kernel tries to boot from my initrd, and is unable to mount root fs on 00:00 I have portmapper running on the server and I can mount the remote filesystem from another computer, so that works fine. I have disabled dhcp. What should I do to make it work? Thanks in advance, Sebastiaan
Undeletable file
After running e2fsck on a data partition which had become corrupt I have the following problem. There is a file which I cannot get rid of. I tried rm, chmod, chown on this file as root: all returned "permission denied". ls -l shows total 729822653 drwxr-xr-x2 chrischris4096 Dec 20 13:19 002_std.d# br-xwx1 282708308 114, 114 Dec 9 2023 991203.c ^ What does the b indicate, and how do I get rid of this file? -Chris | Christopher Judd, Ph. D. | | Research Scientist | | NYS Dept. of Health [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wadsworth Center - ESP | | P. O. Box 509518 486-7829 | | Albany, NY 12201-0509 |