Re: PS/2 mouse on serial port?

2000-12-04 Thread C. Falconer

At 05:06 PM 12/3/00 -0800, you wrote:

On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 10:19:33PM +, Karl E. Jørgensen wrote:
> You said two serial ports, but this one lists 4? Do you have a modem in 
there as well?



Yes, there is a modem at ttyS3
I also tried everything on ttyS0, nothing there either.


Theres the problem - your modem on com4 and your mouse on com2 have IRQ 
conflict.  Set your modem to IRQ 2 or 9 if you can - that seems the best 
solution.


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kapm-idled eating up my CPU

2000-12-04 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

Recently I switched the kernel to the 2.4-test10 version, and I then I
have the following:
PID USER  PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
  2 root   17   0 00 0 SW 0 26.8  0.0 184:02 kapm-idled

Why is that...?
BTW, I use Debian 2.2 on an Intel machine.

Thanks in advance,
Oki




Re: kapm-idled eating up my CPU

2000-12-04 Thread Nate Amsden
Oki DZ wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Recently I switched the kernel to the 2.4-test10 version, and I then I
> have the following:
> PID USER  PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
>   2 root   17   0 00 0 SW 0 26.8  0.0 184:02 kapm-idled

what is kapm-idled ? what is it supposed to do?


nate

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Re: kde2

2000-12-04 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
As posted by Ivan last week,




The APT format HAS changed. :)

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main qt1apps optional crypto

main = kde 2 + kde2 based apps 
qt1apps = qt1 based apps and kde 1.1.2
crypto = kdebase-crypto and kdelibs-crypto ... + libssl096  (pretty much it)
optional = updated packages (from woody) such as apache and any ssl based
         app (all compiled against libssl096).  Not necessary (or at least
         shouldn't be..but not tested)

that format is not going to change.  I'm still doing builds/uploads of kde1 
stuff...

Ivan

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On Lun 04 Dic 2000 01:12, Eileen Orbell wrote:
> Anyone know where to get kde2.deb from?  I added to my sources-list the
> line shown on the kde website:
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2
> But this returns errors..
> Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages
>Unable to fetch file, server said
> '/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory.
>
> thank you
>
> Eileen Orbell
> Software & Internet Applications
> Capitol College
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ipchains -f?

2000-12-04 Thread John Conover
Is it wise to use ipchains -f, (fragment) on all interfaces, including
ppp0?

Thanks,

John

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Advansys SCSI configuration problem

2000-12-04 Thread Yobb

Hi.  I'm trying to set up my SCSI card and CD-R and I need some advice. 
Below is the output I get when I load my SCSI module.

I don't know what sr0-6 are but a get a feeling I only need 1 of them. 
Once this module is loaded devices /dev/scd0 through /dev/scd6 accesses
the same single cd burner that is plugged into the SCSI card.  I don't
know what a lun, or id is either.  Continuing below . . .


debian# insmod advansys

Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/scsi/advansys.o
scsi0 : Advansys SCSI 3.2M: ISA PnP 17 CDB: BIOS C800, IO 120/f, IRQ 10,
DMA 7
scsi : 1 host
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr1 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr2 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr3 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr4 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr5 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr6 at scsi 0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0

When I a look at the SCSI card in the proc directory as below I get the
following.

debian# more /proc/scsi/advansys/0
AdvanSys SCSI 3.2M: ISA PnP 17 CDB: BIOS C800, IO 120/F, IRQ 10, DMA 7
Device Information for AdvanSys SCSI Host 0:
Target IDs Detected: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, (0=Host Adapter)
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 07 Lun: 00
  Vendor: RICOHModel: RO-1420C Rev: 1.00
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02

EEPROM Settings for AdvanSys SCSI Host 0:
 Serial Number Signature Not Present.
 Host SCSI ID: 0, Host Queue Size: 17, Device Queue Size: 4
 cntl 0, no_scam 11
 Target ID:0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
 Disconnects:  Y N N N Y N N N
 Command Queuing:  Y N N N Y N N N
 Start Motor:  N N N N N N N N
 Synchronous Transfer: Y N N N Y N N N
 Host ISA DMA speed:   10 MB/S

Linux Driver Configuration and Information for AdvanSys SCSI Host 0:
 host_busy 0, last_reset 0, max_id 8, max_lun 8, max_channel 0
 unique_id 0, can_queue 17, this_id 0, sg_tablesize 50, cmd_per_lun 1
 unchecked_isa_dma 1, use_clustering 1, loaded_as_module 1
 flags 8, last_reset 0, jiffies 4a5136
 queue_depth: 1:4 2:4 3:4 4:4 5:4 6:4 7:4

Linux Driver Statistics for AdvanSys SCSI Host 0:
 command 0, queuecommand 21, abort 0, reset 0, biosparam 0
 interrupt 34, callback 21, done 21
 exe_noerror 21, exe_busy 0, exe_error 0, exe_unknown 0
 build_error 0
 cont_cnt 21, cont_xfer 10.5 kb avg_xfer 0.4 kb
 Active and Waiting Request Queues (Time Unit: 100 HZ):
 target 1
   active: cnt [cur 0, max 1, tot 3], time [min 0, max 2, avg 1.0]
   waiting: cnt [cur 0, max 0, tot 0], time [min 0, max 0, avg 0.0]
 target 2
   active: cnt [cur 0, max 1, tot 3], time [min 1, max 2, avg 1.3]
   waiting: cnt [cur 0, max 0, tot 0], time [min 0, max 0, avg 0.0]
 target 3
   active: cnt [cur 0, max 1, tot 3], time [min 1, max 1, avg 1.0]
   waiting: cnt [cur 0, max 0, tot 0], time [min 0, max 0, avg 0.0]
 target 4
   active: cnt [cur 0, max 1, tot 3], time [min 1, max 1, avg 1.0]
   waiting: cnt [cur 0, max 0, tot 0], time [min 0, max 0, avg 0.0]
 target 5
   active: cnt [cur 0, max 1, tot 3], time [min 0, max 1, avg 0.6]
   waiting: cnt [cur 0, max 0, tot 0], time [min 0, max 0, avg 0.0]
 target 6

ssh broken

2000-12-04 Thread Jeff Davis
I had ssh (2.3.0, compiled from source) working just fine, and then I
change my sources.list to the unstable branch (to get perl5.6 and a few
other more up-to-date packages, includeing libc6).

Then I needed to do a "apt-get -f install" (to fix dependencies). It
asked me to restart a few services (inetd was one) and said I may need
to restart more if they are acting funny. I looked for a log of what it
installed later, but couldn't find one.

Immediately, I began to get errors with ssh (I did the updates over ssh,
and it let me continue ok in that session, but not log in any new ones).
I tried restarting, then recompiling, then looking at /etc/hosts.deny (
I commented the useful line ), and I just don't know what to do.

Here is the client response:
$ ssh -v localhost
SSH Version OpenSSH_2.3.0p1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090600f).
debug: Reading configuration data /usr/local/etc/ssh_config
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 0
debug: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug: Allocated local port 1023.
debug: debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
fatal: get_sock_port: getnameinfo NI_NUMERICSERV failed
debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8061f9c(0x0)
Connection established.
ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805ebfc(0x0)

server debug info:
# /usr/local/sbin/sshd -ddd
debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.3.0p1
debug1: Seeding random number generator
debug1: read DSA private key done
debug1: Forcing server key to 1152 bits to make it differ from host key.

debug1: Seeding random number generator
debug1: Bind to port 22 on ::.
Server listening on :: port 22.
debug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0.
Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
Generating 1152 bit RSA key.
debug1: Seeding random number generator
debug1: Seeding random number generator
RSA key generation complete.
debug1: Server will not fork when running in debugging mode.
fatal: get_sock_port: getnameinfo NI_NUMERICSERV failed
debug1: Calling cleanup 0x8061f9c(0x0)


Thanks!
Jeff Davis



Re: Advansys SCSI configuration problem

2000-12-04 Thread scr
Yobb schrieb:
> 
> Hi.  I'm trying to set up my SCSI card and CD-R and I need some advice.
> Below is the output I get when I load my SCSI module.
> 
> I don't know what sr0-6 are but a get a feeling I only need 1 of them.
> Once this module is loaded devices /dev/scd0 through /dev/scd6 accesses
> the same single cd burner that is plugged into the SCSI card.  I don't
> know what a lun, or id is either.  Continuing below . . .

Could this, by any chance, be a SCAM issue (SCAM: "SCSI
configured automagiclly")? If yes, try to disable SCAM
support in your SCSI configuration utility (or SCSI BIOS
setup or whatever it is called). And make sure that every
SCSI device has a unique SCSI id.

For your questions about ids and luns, see the SCSI-FAQ
http://www.scsifaq.org/

Regards,
scr



Are there [maybe unofficial] debs for python 1.6 or 2.0 somewhere?

2000-12-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi all,

I need a newer Python than the 1.5 included in Debian's potato/woody. Does
anyone know if there are some prebuild 1.6 or 2.0 debian packages out there
in the net? I don't want to mess up all my dependencies by removing
Debian's Python 1.5.

Thanks,
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Re: [OT] Navigator 4.75 hangs, any patches?

2000-12-04 Thread kmself
on Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 08:13:45PM -0800, Krzys Majewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > when exactly does it hang? ive seen a lot of hangs on startup if a
> > working DNS is unreachable.
> > 
> > nate
> > 
> > Krzys Majewski wrote:
> > > 
> > > Gr. Navigator 4.75 hangs on some pages, eating all the CPU, and making
> > > all  open netscape  windows  unuseable.  This is  on  an i686,  mostly
> > > potato. Any patches/workarounds for this sort of problem? -chris
> 
> Not on startup. Seems to have a preference for certain pages. The most
> recent offender had a java applet,  though I managed to load that page
> successfully just now. 
> 
> The only  thing I  really need javascript  for (and probably  the only
> thing  I really  need  netscape for),  is  my bank.  Although this  is
> academic for now, anybody know if there are alternatives to javascript
> for this type of  content ("choose account", "choose creditor", "enter
> amount", etc.)? 

Javascript is unnecessary, inconsistantly implemented across browsers,
often a source of instability, not available on many browsers, quite
possibly an access impediment for disabled users (a legal issue in the
US with the Americans with Disabilities Act), and a security risk
(client side, not server side).  Check that last point.  It's a security
risk server-side if the client manages to misrepresent data.

I advise any businesses I deal with that I don't use Javascript and
won't enable it to access their content.  It's very strongly
discouraged.

Somewhat happily surprised to see that WFB (in followup) uses
exclusively server-side processing.

Fundamental to HTML are authentication, data submission, and secure
protocols methods.  These should be used, not broken, glitzy,
unnecessary chrome.

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Re: xlibs vs. app-defaults

2000-12-04 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Burton Windle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Unpacking replacement xlibs ...
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-9_i386.deb 
> (--install):
>  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults', which is also in
> package ghostview dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken
> pipe)
> 
> It used to give a similar message because app-defaults was also in
> xscreen-saver, and/or xscreen-saver-gl, untill I removed them and
> reinstalled.  
> 
> What is the correct way to resolve this, and to stop getting these errors?

Do a
`dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_4.0.1-9_i386.deb'

However, that won't stop messages of this sort, but only the
particular with app-defaults.

Greetings,
joachim



Re: what is > ?

2000-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
Harry Henry Gebel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 01:27:24PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
>> Actually, backslashes lose their special meaning inside single quotes in
>> bash:
>> 
>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo '\\\' 
>>   \\\
>
>Guess that shows I shouldn't make assumptions.

Oddly, they seem to be interpreted in single quotes in ksh. Hmm. Not
sure what that's a bug in, if anything.

>So if you want to pass in a single quote you need to do this:
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo '\\\'"'"'\\\'
>\\\'\\\

That's one possibility, yes. I tend to use the '...'\''...' style
myself.

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Re: Killing Post in innd

2000-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
"Hung Hin Lik, Shell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Well, would anyone tell me how can I kill post in innd ?

  ctlinnd cancel ''

... with the appropriate message-id. You probably do need the single
quotes, as message-ids often contain odd characters.

Note that this does *not* propagate the cancel to the rest of Usenet. If
you want to do that, you'll need to send a proper cancel message.

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mutt: don't jump over deleted messages

2000-12-04 Thread Timo Benk
Hi,

How can I tell mutt that the cursor should not jump over deleted messages.

 Ciao,
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Re: Logitech MouseManPlus, gpm, and X

2000-12-04 Thread RP

At 12:40 01-12-2000 -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote:

On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 06:20:39PM +0100, Wouter de Vries wrote:
> And did anybody get the wheel working with imwheel? ( I did not .. )

You don't need imwheel for most applications, just add:
ZAxisMapping4 5
in the "Pointer" section of your XF86Config


I have this in my XF86Config and the wheel does not work.
Maybe the reason for this is for using /dev/ttyS0 instead of a PS/2 port.
The protocol I am using is MouseMan. Tried with MouseManPlusPS/2 and the 
mouse does not

move...
By the way, the mouse is wireless from logitech.
Any suggestion?

Cheers,

RP



Kernelupdate auf 2.2

2000-12-04 Thread Juergen Bernhard
Guten Morgen,

seit wir unseren Debian Server auf den aktuellen Kernel 2.2 upgedatet
haben, gibt es Probleme mit unseren MAC-Rechnern. Diese können nun die
Mails nicht ordnungsgemäss empfangen. Ansonsten funktioniert der
Netzzugang einwandfrei. Alle Mac-Rechner sind über 10MBit-Leitung am
Netz angeschlossen und haben eine statische IP.

Ist es denn grundsätzlich nicht möglich MAC´s auch über 100MBit ans
interne Netz zu hängen ??

Kann mir jemand helfen, dieses Problem zu beheben ???

Besten Dank im voraus für die freundliche Unterstützung.


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #705 etc

2000-12-04 Thread Remco van de Meent
kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 December 2000  5:23 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > ** Original Message **
> > > FROM: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > SENT: Fri 12/01/2000 11:47 AM
> > > TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > SUBJECT:  debian-user-digest Digest V100 #705
> 
> I've added this address to my procmail blacklist.

And it got removed from all Debian mailinglists as well.


Cheers,
Remco.



Re: PS/2 mouse on serial port?

2000-12-04 Thread Karl E. Jørgensen
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 07:35:08PM +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
> >Yes, there is a modem at ttyS3
> >I also tried everything on ttyS0, nothing there either.
> 
> Theres the problem - your modem on com4 and your mouse on com2 have IRQ 
> conflict.  Set your modem to IRQ 2 or 9 if you can - that seems the best 
> solution.
Oops. I should have spotted that! Apologies - hope you haven't bought another 
PS/2->Serial adapter yet!
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ps/2 mouse not detected if ball not rolling?

2000-12-04 Thread Christopher Mosley

When starting linux if I do not roll mouse ball  I do
not get a ps2 aux device. Then xwindows will crash when it
does not detect mouse - crash can be prevented by
rolling mouse ball when running startx . But alas  mouse eventually
freezes in xwindows.  This is a hardware problem - the mouse
was working fine.

Any reason to believe the problem is the mouse   
or is there a reason to believe the problem is the ps2 hardware?
Don't have adapter or another ps/2  mouse right now to test this.

 Thanks




problem running StarOffice as non-root

2000-12-04 Thread Agner-Nichols
I installed StarOffice (5.2) as root to an i586 running Debian with a 2.2.12
kernel and KDE as the desktop (using Corel 1.1.2).  It runs fine as root,
but I cannot figure out how to get it to run as non-root.  Have tried
symlinking /usr/local/office52/soffice to the user's home (and that just
starts the install script that errors because it can't find
/usr/local/office52/user/sofficerc) as well symlinking
/root/.kde/share/applnk/staroffice to the user's home and neither worked.
(Looks like there is read/execute for user throughout the path for the first
strategy, and yeah, I really didn't think the symlink to /root would work,
but what the heck)

Any ideas?  Is this a general problem with any non-deb binary I install?  I
glanced through the O'Reilley Running Linux to see if it had anything about
installing/managing binaries and didn't notice anything.

thanks in advance



Re: system.map wrong ?

2000-12-04 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 11:48:16PM -0500, Debian Ghost wrote: 

> Hey Guys,
> Somehow I have a messed up system.map file.
> Could someone tell me what this file is/does, and how I can fix mine?

The System.map is created during compiling your kernel. I guess you
recently compiled a kernel and did not copy the new System.map to your
/boot directory.
The new System.map should be located in /usr/src/linux.
It won't do any harm if you don't copy it, it is meant for debugging
purpose.
Phil



Re: Help: Start folder

2000-12-04 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Works like a charm, great.

> macro index  ?

Any way of getting it to work from within a message instead of another
folder?

And does mutt go from new msg to new mg with tab?

Thanks,

Jonathan

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Re: problem running StarOffice as non-root

2000-12-04 Thread Daniel de los Reyes

Did you make a single user or a multi user install?
In the case of this last one, you have to go through the setup process with 
each user. This will copy the needed files to each user's home directory 
(just a few MB)To do this go to so installation directory and execute setup 
for each user

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> I installed StarOffice (5.2) as root to an i586 running Debian with a
> 2.2.12 kernel and KDE as the desktop (using Corel 1.1.2).  It runs fine as
> root, but I cannot figure out how to get it to run as non-root.  Have tried
> symlinking /usr/local/office52/soffice to the user's home (and that just
> starts the install script that errors because it can't find
> /usr/local/office52/user/sofficerc) as well symlinking
> /root/.kde/share/applnk/staroffice to the user's home and neither worked.
> (Looks like there is read/execute for user throughout the path for the
> first strategy, and yeah, I really didn't think the symlink to /root would
> work, but what the heck)
>
> Any ideas?  Is this a general problem with any non-deb binary I install?  I
> glanced through the O'Reilley Running Linux to see if it had anything about
> installing/managing binaries and didn't notice anything.
>
> thanks in advance

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Re: Laptops for Debian GNU/Linux?

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Gaitzsch
"Dexter Graphic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The site is a rich source of information on GNU/Linux laptops. 
> 
> http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
> 
> But it's almost too much information and to general in nature 
> to be of immediate use. I still have no idea how to go about
> comparing the hundreds of models listed and what each one's
> strengths and weaknesses are in terms of running my preferred
> OS: Debian GNU/Linux. 
> 
> Perhaps some of you folks would be willing to share your own
> laptop preferences? Are there any hardware companies you
> know of that provide GPL drivers and support open standards?

Hi,

I use a compaq armada 1750 under debian since the slink times, and I?m
very happy with it. Graphics, Sound, PCMCIA, everything works.

Greetings, Christoph



printer not responding --- driving me mad!

2000-12-04 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi,

I'm running a 2.4.0-test11 kernel under debian linux (potato + a little
woody).  I have a printcap file which has worked before.  I understand
that what used to be /dev/lp1 in 2.0 kernels is now /dev/lp0 so I have
made this change.  But neither lprng, nor the standard lpr work.  I have
unplugged and plugged the cable so I think it's connected okay.

Using lprng, when I do lpq I get the following message, after waiting a
while:

# lpq
Printer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - cannot open connection - Connection timed out
Make sure LPD server is running on the server

Using lpr, the "lpq" command works, but when I try to print, it comes up
with 

# lpr test.txt
lpr: connect: No such file or directory
jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.

I tried typing directly to /dev/lp0, but part way through it came up with

# cat > /dev/lp0
sasfasdf
asdfasdfsdf
cat: write error: Input/output error

I don't know what's wrong.  Is there something wrong with my kernel?

I have the lp module loaded okay:

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate39168   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp4128   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   6192   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic12800   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp
ppp_async]
slhc4496   1  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
ipt_MASQUERADE  1328   1  (autoclean)
iptable_filter  1856   0  (unused)
iptable_nat12224   0  [ipt_MASQUERADE]
ip_conntrack   12352   1  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat]
ip_tables   9856   5  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_filter
iptable_nat]
lp  4480   0  (autoclean)

I don't know what else to try.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Mark.

P.S. My printcap is:

lp|bjc4200|Canon BJC-4200:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bjc4200:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/etc/magicfilter/bjc4200-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:


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Re: Monolithic kernels and init scripts

2000-12-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 09:36:03PM +0100, scr wrote:
> 
> It looks like (I haven´t digged deeply) those scripts
> `modutils´ and `kerneld´ from /etc/init.d are responsible
> for several warnings I get during boot of a hand-rolled
> kernel (I think it´s kernel-source from plain potato,
> although I have "unofficial" CDs).
> 
> Well, I get several warnings because
> modules are not implemented at all
>*and*
> kerneld gets started
> although I don´t need all this stuff (I think).
> 
> Is there a mistake in those /etc/inid.d scripts?
> Shouldn´t a "autodetection" if booted from a monolithic
> kernel be built into them?
> Well, I could remove some scripts/symlinks, but then
> a modularized kernel wouldn´t boot, right?

its true that the tests used in the kerneld initscript is flawed,
it checks for /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe which will not exist in
two cases:

1) your running 2.0 kernels, and thus need kerneld
2) your running 2.2 without loadable module support.

the flawed assumption here is that nobody will ever build a kernel not
supporting modules.  you can however delete or disable the kerneld
script entirely without any problems since its only relevent for 2.0
kernels, so long as you don't plan to run 2.0 kernels you will never
need kenreld

i don't see any problems with the modutils script, it should abort if
/proc/modules is missing which should only occur for kernels without
module support.  

here is a patch for /etc/init.d/kerneld:

--- /etc/init.d/kerneld Sat Oct 21 13:36:39 2000
+++ /tmp/kerneldMon Dec  4 01:38:12 2000
@@ -5,7 +5,15 @@

 KDOPT=""

-test -f /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe && exit 0
+# kerneld only works on 2.0 kernels
+case `uname -r` in
+2.0.*)
+;;
+*)
+exit 0
+;;
+esac
+
 test -f /proc/modules || exit 0
 test -f /sbin/kerneld || exit 0

feel free to file a bug against modutils with this patch. 

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Re: problem running StarOffice as non-root

2000-12-04 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,
probably you did a single user install. Even when your system is single
user, I prefer installing it multiuser. 
To fix the problem, do this:
-run as root the setup again and deinstall
-as root, start the program again, but now with the net option: 
./setup /net

After install, login as a normal user and run /usr/local/soffice52/soffice
(or something like that) and because this is your first time as a user,
you will be asked for your personal data. After this, you should be able
to use office as a normal user.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan


On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Agner-Nichols wrote:

> I installed StarOffice (5.2) as root to an i586 running Debian with a 2.2.12
> kernel and KDE as the desktop (using Corel 1.1.2).  It runs fine as root,
> but I cannot figure out how to get it to run as non-root.  Have tried
> symlinking /usr/local/office52/soffice to the user's home (and that just
> starts the install script that errors because it can't find
> /usr/local/office52/user/sofficerc) as well symlinking~
> /root/.kde/share/applnk/staroffice to the user's home and neither worked.
> (Looks like there is read/execute for user throughout the path for the first
> strategy, and yeah, I really didn't think the symlink to /root would work,
> but what the heck)
> 
> Any ideas?  Is this a general problem with any non-deb binary I install?  I
> glanced through the O'Reilley Running Linux to see if it had anything about
> installing/managing binaries and didn't notice anything.
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
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CRC error

2000-12-04 Thread Michael Buerkle
hallo,

anybody who ever had an CRC error while booting?
Is my Harddisk lost, or do you know any way to get it back to 
work? I tried everything i could imagine: i formatet the disk, i 
partitioned it in another way, i tried to run every diskcheck 
programm i know (they told me the disk could be kind of 
"configured wrong" so they couldn't access).
The strange thing about all this is: If i mount this HD after booting 
(if i don't try to boot from it) i can store and access data on it... :/

any suggestions?

thanx

Michael



Re: Best Light Web browser??

2000-12-04 Thread Richard Hunt
On Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 04:55:12PM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote: > Hi, > > 
I've tested Chimera2, Express, Arena, and gzilla. Anything else out > there 
as a simple web browser capable of getting through the > gimp-manual? Of 
the lot, the only one that didn't crash after 30 secs > from Chimera2. > > 
Any other choices aside Mozilla, Opera, Netscape, for something low > 
footprint? > > Thanks,


You probably don't want a text-based browser, but I found that
w3m is very good. It uses libgpm so you can control it with
the mouse. You can tell it to load another browser for something
it can't understand. You can tell it to use eeyes or something to
view the pictures.

Wait a minute, isn't the gimp manual a PDF?
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Re: PS/2 mouse on serial port?

2000-12-04 Thread jakemsr
> did you get the adapter *with* the mouse?

I found a serial mouse and put it in ttyS0. Everything works great. Thanks for 
the suggestions.

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Former version of dep package

2000-12-04 Thread Thias

Hi everybody...

I'd like to know if it is possible to find former packages for xfree
4.0.1...
Indeed, the release -8 worked quite better for me ;o)

Thias 




gif support in Gimp .Non free?

2000-12-04 Thread Daniel de los Reyes
I noticed gimp included in Potato has no support for gif format. Can this be 
added with a non-free package? Which one?
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Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:05:32 -0800 (PST)
Chris Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello, everyone.  
> 
> So, here's the problem:  In a nutshell, Postgres doesn't seem to be
> listening on port 5432 (which is where everything seems to be looking
> for it).  Nmap confirms this, plus none of the stuff that lsof lists as
> being owned by postgres seems to deal with a socket (here's the dump in
> case it helps):

Set
  PGALLOWTCPIP=yes
in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init and restart postgres.

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shutdown&power off for ordinary users

2000-12-04 Thread A.E. Roy
I´m running 2.2 with two users, #1 has the rootpassword, #2 don´t. When #2 is 
finnished using the machine, he does a logout, and the machine reboots, he then 
turns the power off, and when restarting it all the partitions has to be 
cheched because they weren´t cleanly unmounted. How to I make #2 able to 
cleanly unmount?
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Re: Kernelupdate auf 2.2

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 10:40:29 +0100
Juergen Bernhard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> seit wir unseren Debian Server auf den aktuellen Kernel 2.2 upgedatet
> haben, gibt es Probleme mit unseren MAC-Rechnern. Diese können nun die
> Mails nicht ordnungsgemäss empfangen. Ansonsten funktioniert der
> Netzzugang einwandfrei. Alle Mac-Rechner sind über 10MBit-Leitung am
> Netz angeschlossen und haben eine statische IP.
> 
> Ist es denn grundsätzlich nicht möglich MAC´s auch über 100MBit ans
> interne Netz zu hängen ??

Ich habe hier ein Netz das mit 100Mb/s Linux, iMacs und Windows
verbindet. Alle Linux Maschinen sind debian/potato welche regelmäßig
geupdatet werden. Und alles funktioniert. Ich glaube daher nicht, daß
dein Problem weder mit der Netzfrequenz noch mit dem neueren Kernel zu
tun hat. Funktioniert es denn, wenn du mit dem älteren Kernel
arbeitest?

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Mosaic won't uininstall

2000-12-04 Thread jensch
Hi, I have Mosaic 2.7b5-8.1 on my system.

When I try to remove it with dselect, I get this:

running dpkg --pending --remove ...
(Reading database ... 41009 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing Mosaic ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute pre-removal script: Exec format error
dpkg: error processing Mosaic (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 Mosaic
dpkg --remove returned error exit status 1.

I can remove the files manually, but how do I delete it from the list in 
dselect ?





RE:changing route table ?

2000-12-04 Thread Bob
Hello Fellow Debin Users !

I used to have my debian box conected through a gateway, set up with

route add default gw 192.168.0.1

Now that gateway ceased to exist, and each time I want to connect to
internet I cant. I have to:
route -n (otherwise it tries to resolve names through the gateway)

route del default gw 192.168.0.1

route add default gw  <>

Why does it insist on using the old gateway ?. Is there a way to make
permanent changes? (they were permanent the first time !!)

Thanks in advance.

Mark.


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Re: gif support in Gimp .Non free?

2000-12-04 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:31:44PM +0100, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
> I noticed gimp included in Potato has no support for gif format. Can this be 
> added with a non-free package? Which one?
gimp-nonfree?

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Re: shutdown&power off for ordinary users

2000-12-04 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:36:34PM +0100, A.E. Roy wrote:
> I´m running 2.2 with two users, #1 has the rootpassword, #2 don´t. When #2 is 
> finnished using the machine, he does a logout, and the machine reboots, he 
> then turns the power off, and when restarting it all the partitions has to be 
> cheched because they weren´t cleanly unmounted. How to I make #2 able to 
> cleanly unmount?

Look for /etc/shutdown.allow
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Re: Mosaic won't uininstall

2000-12-04 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:01:59PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, I have Mosaic 2.7b5-8.1 on my system.
> 
> When I try to remove it with dselect, I get this:
> 
> running dpkg --pending --remove ...
> (Reading database ... 41009 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing Mosaic ...
> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute pre-removal script: Exec format error
> dpkg: error processing Mosaic (--remove):
>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  Mosaic
> dpkg --remove returned error exit status 1.
> 
> I can remove the files manually, but how do I delete it from the list in 
> dselect ?

There's probably something wrong with the pre-removal script, check
the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mosaic.prerm for errors, like execute
permissions, wrong header (like #!/bin/bash) and such things.

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Re: Best Light Web browser??

2000-12-04 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 08:21:08AM +0100, Jonathan Gift wrote:
> Hey, someone who thinks like I do!!! I thought Mosaic would be great. I
> remember it with fondness as myu first browser. Well, I dl the Linux
> verion and it saus to uncompress it and then run the file. I did as it
> said and no go.I get a missing libXT.so.- reference. When I search, the
> file is in /usr/bin/something... but it's there. Any ideas, I'd mlove to
> get Mosaic running.
apt-get install mosaic
> 
> Jonathan
> > Try mosaic, it's a bit old, but quite lightweight and the rendering is
> > not imho not too bad for manuals, it does graphics, so it should be
> > able to render the gimp user manual, debian package is just mosaic.
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Realplayer.deb for Netscape?

2000-12-04 Thread robert_wilhelm_land
Realplayer is not included on Debian2.2 and every time a new and
different package is installed, dpkg asks for a url to download the
Real media files to fulfill broken dependancies. 

Which URL should I choose for a Realplayer.deb package - a package
which I may install on other computers on my homenet too and how large
is the requested file in size?

Robert



Re: changing route table ?

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 11:45:56 -
"Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I used to have my debian box conected through a gateway, set up with
> 
> route add default gw 192.168.0.1
> 
> Now that gateway ceased to exist, and each time I want to connect to
> internet I cant. I have to:
> route -n (otherwise it tries to resolve names through the gateway)
> 
> route del default gw 192.168.0.1
> 
> route add default gw  <>
> 
> Why does it insist on using the old gateway ?. Is there a way to make
> permanent changes? (they were permanent the first time !!)

Make your changes in /etc/network/interfaces

HTH

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Re: shutdown&power off for ordinary users

2000-12-04 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:36:34PM +0100, A.E. Roy wrote:
> I´m running 2.2 with two users, #1 has the rootpassword, #2 don´t. When #2 is 
> finnished using the machine, he does a logout, and the machine reboots, he 
> then turns the power off, and when restarting it all the partitions has to be 
> cheched because they weren´t cleanly unmounted. How to I make #2 able to 
> cleanly unmount?
> Thanks in advance.

please wrap your lines at something reasonable say 72 char.

run visudo and add the following:

Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN=/sbin/shutdown -h now
Cmnd_Alias  REBOOT=/sbin/shutdown -r now

usernamehostname=SHUTDOWN,REBOOT

then this user will be allowed to run `sudo shutdown -[hr] now' which
will shutdown or reboot the machine correctly.

you can use shell scripts to simplify this for the user, if you don't
want to require the user's password to perform the shutdown change the
last line to:

usernamehostname=NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN,REBOOT

if you don't have sudo installed, apt-get install sudo.

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Modules not showing up after compile - why?

2000-12-04 Thread Anthony Campbell
Sorry for this basic query; I've always used monolithic kernels but
decided to build a modules version to try it out and I don't understand
what's happening.. 

I selected various modules and built the kernel. I included the kernel
module loader to enable automatic loading of modules. The kernel
compiled OK and I booted with it without problems. All the functions
seem to be implemented as I expected.


However, lsmod and modprobe show nothing: there is no /proc/ksyms or
/proc/modules.

Questions: why don't these things show up, and how does the kernel work
if the modules aren't there?

Anthony

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Re: Modules not showing up after compile - why?

2000-12-04 Thread Harry Henry Gebel
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:16:35PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> However, lsmod and modprobe show nothing: there is no /proc/ksyms or
> /proc/modules.
> 
> Questions: why don't these things show up, and how does the kernel work
> if the modules aren't there?

Did you run LILO after you installed the kernel? If you didn't you are
probably still booting into your old kernel. If you run `dmesg` you will
get a list off all the boot-up messages; the first one will include the
data the kernel was compiles. If you enabled modules you should have
/proc/modules even if it's empty (assuming you have /proc mounted).

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Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Chris Mayes

--- Christoph Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 21:05:32 -0800 (PST)
> Chris Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello, everyone.  
> > 
> > So, here's the problem:  In a nutshell, Postgres doesn't seem to be
> > listening on port 5432 (which is where everything seems to be
> looking
> > for it).  Nmap confirms this, plus none of the stuff that lsof
> lists as
> > being owned by postgres seems to deal with a socket (here's the
> dump in
> > case it helps):
> 
> Set
>   PGALLOWTCPIP=yes
> in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init and restart postgres.
> 
Well, nmap (and lsof) reports that the postgres port is open and
listening, but I still get:


psql: connectDBStart() -- connect() failed: Connection refused
Is the postmaster running at 'localhost'
and accepting connections on Unix socket '5432'?


...whenever I try to run psql (or the regression tests, which use
psql).  What else could be the problem?  Could it be the psql client? 
Is there a way for me to test for connectivity without using psql?

Thanks,

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SuSe6.4 & sound

2000-12-04 Thread Clayton Stapleton
Hi All,
Unable to get KDE CD Player to recognize a music CD. Get the following message
"No matching CDDBentry found"
When I run lsmod the following is displayed:
Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate40300   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp4020   0  (autoclean)
ppp20908   0  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp]
slhc4440   0  (autoclean) [ppp]
snd-pcm-oss16680   0  (autoclean)
snd-pcm-plugin 12840   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-mixer-oss   4244   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-card-ens13712016   0  (autoclean)
snd-ens1371 9404   0  (autoclean) [snd-card-ens1371]
snd-pcm28504   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin 
snd-ens1371]
snd-timer   8032   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-rawmidi 9432   0  (autoclean) [snd-ens1371]
snd-seq-device  3360   0  (autoclean) [snd-rawmidi]
snd-ac97-codec 23904   0  (autoclean) [snd-ens1371]
snd-mixer  22576   0  (autoclean) [snd-mixer-oss snd-ens1371

snd-ac97-codec]
snd31852   1  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss 
snd-card-ens1371 snd-ens1371 snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec
snd-mixer] soundcore   2564   5  [snd]
usb-uhci   17000   0  (unused)
serial 42612   0  (autoclean)
memstat 1476   0  (unused)
usbcore42344   1  [usb-uhci] 
Have installed ALSA sound  and a SoundBlaster 16 sound card. Have read the ALSA
Howto.
Ran "awk '/^snd/||/^sound/&&($3==0){system("rmmod " $1)}' /proc/modules 
/proc/modules /proc/modules" three times as suggested an lsmod produced:
Module  Size  Used by
ppp_deflate40300   0  (autoclean)
bsd_comp4020   0  (autoclean)
ppp20908   0  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp]
slhc4440   0  (autoclean) [ppp]
usb-uhci   17000   0  (unused)
serial 42612   0  (autoclean)
memstat 1476   0  (unused)
usbcore42344   1  [usb-uhci]

Then ran "/sbin/modprobe snd-card-sb16" which produce:
/lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/snd-card-sb16.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
/lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/snd-card-sb16.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.14/misc
/snd-card-sb16.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.14/misc/snd-card-sb16.o: insmod snd-card-sb16 failed 
My question is what "Device or resource busy" is still busy?
Any help will be appricated.

TIA
Clay Stapleton
  



Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #717

2000-12-04 Thread Wayne Topa

Nilly, you just made the bit bucket list.  Enough is enough!


Subject: Re:  debian-user-digest Digest V100 #717
Date: Sat, Dec 02, 2000 at 10:18:02PM -0500

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Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> ** Original Message **
> FROM: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> SENT: Sun 12/03/2000 2:42 AM
> TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> SUBJECT:  debian-user-digest Digest V100 #717
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> >debian-user-digest DigestVolume 100 : Issue 717
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Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 04:51:50 -0800 (PST)
Chris Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Set
> >   PGALLOWTCPIP=yes
> > in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init and restart postgres.
> > 
> Well, nmap (and lsof) reports that the postgres port is open and
> listening, but I still get:
> 
> 
> psql: connectDBStart() -- connect() failed: Connection refused
> Is the postmaster running at 'localhost'
> and accepting connections on Unix socket '5432'?
> 
> 
> ...whenever I try to run psql (or the regression tests, which use
> psql).  What else could be the problem?  Could it be the psql client? 
> Is there a way for me to test for connectivity without using psql?

Another problem might be that you have no access permissions, that the
database wasn't yet initialized or that there is just no database at
all. But those, I believe, would cause different messages. The only
way I know of not using psql is writing some program using the
libraries (e.g., libpsql) or using some application based on postgres,
but then, I wouldn't expect any difference.  Sorry. No more ideas.

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exim+fetchmail

2000-12-04 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
Hello!

I am configuring the email in a potato box. I am connected to my ISP via
modem. I want to use exim+fetchmail+mutt. So far I have some questions,
and I wonder if someone in this fantastic 
list can help me:

1) I have two ISP providers. I choose one of them when I establish the
dial-up connection. But in the 
exim's configuration file there is room for only one ISP. If I want to
change the ISP should I have to edit 
the exim's config file?  is there a way exim stores the information for
several ISPs and, at dial-up time, inform 
to exim to what ISP I am connecting to?

2) When fetchmail retrieves the email from the ISP to my machine, is exim
who delivers them to my 
/var/spool/mail/account file?

3) is exim automatically called when I establish the dial-up connection?

4) why the MUAs programs (for example balsa or xfmail) don't need a MTA
for retrieve the 
messages from the ISP (at last with pop3) but they need a MTA for sending
the emails (via smtp)?

Sorry for ask many questions in a single email... :P

Thanks ins advance for the help!

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Re: SCSI

2000-12-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Karl E. Jrgensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> > If I can get to understand Scsi and find it a viable alternative to
> > IDE, it was my intention to attach a CD writer and some new 
> > harddrives externally (the board provides for this). Here again
> > I'm lost - some people I've spoken to insist only one device can 
> > be attached externally whilst the literature clearly says up to 7.
> SCSI takes at least 7. Later versions of SCSI (where the last address bit is 
> used) can take up to 15.
> 
> > Furthermore, here in the UK no-one appears to stock any 'boxes'
> > or whatever for more than one device. A stock explanation seems
> Why should they? If they can sell one controller per device? :-) They 
> probably would argue that it's "just overengineering to be safe" :-)
> On a serious note though, some cheaper cards do take quite a bit of CPU 
> overhead, and I ended up with such a card when I bought by SCSI CD-Rewriter. 
> Although it *can* take 7 devices (I now have a 18Gb disk, a CD-RW and a tape 
> station running off it), it doesn't seem to have an impressive bandwith... 
> Something to do with PCI-busmastering I've been told...
> 
> > to be "haven't seen any for years - there's no call for them" 
> > (One 'charming' individual said he knows nothing technical
> > about computer parts "I only sell them".

I'm not sure what John means by "boxes" for more than one device. A
SCSI card will typically have one external connector and possibly more
than one internal connector to cater for different connector-types.
The documentation will warn you not to use more than any two
connectors at the same time (else you have a star configuration,
not a chain).

To connect more than one scsi device to the external connector,
they have to be daisy-chained, and most devices will carry two
connectors to allow this.

The order of daisy-chaining can be important when you have lame
8-bit devices that don't carry through the wires for bits 9--16,
or which have tacky 25-way D connectors which are not real
SCSI connectors anyway.

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games-pipemania ...?

2000-12-04 Thread A.E. Roy
In order to make the second user on my machine happy,
I need to have a game called "pipemania" installed,
the other user knows this from Windows, does anybody
know if this game exists for Debian, or one similar??
This might just be a little bit off topic, I hope
you´ll have me excused if this disturbes you.
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Re: CRC error

2000-12-04 Thread lists

Hi michael,

That error is what I'm dealing with now ( it's not a dell,
perchance? ).  When I ran fsck on the unmounted linux partitions,
it found hundreds of errors. 
The Lilo? Rescue? HOWTO mentions it's usually a result of a 
hard drive problem. In my case, the vendor diagnostics (and window
diagnostics ) check out ok on the hd. Since it occured to me 
after a power failure(s), I'm hoping it may be a one time
corruption of the drive.
The only suggestion I could make would be to fsck your
linux partitions if you haven't already.

good luck,
Jon


On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Michael Buerkle wrote:

> anybody who ever had an CRC error while booting?
> Is my Harddisk lost, or do you know any way to get it back to 
> work? I tried everything i could imagine: i formatet the disk, i 
> partitioned it in another way, i tried to run every diskcheck 
> programm i know (they told me the disk could be kind of 
> "configured wrong" so they couldn't access).
> The strange thing about all this is: If i mount this HD after booting 
> (if i don't try to boot from it) i can store and access data on it... :/
> 
> any suggestions?
> 
> thanx
> 
> Michael
> 
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Re: mutt: don't jump over deleted messages

2000-12-04 Thread Colin Watson
Timo Benk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can I tell mutt that the cursor should not jump over deleted messages.

Try putting these two lines in your ~/.muttrc:

  bind index  previous-entry
  bind index  next-entry

(Normally, those two keys are bound to previous-undeleted and
next-undeleted respectively.)

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Re: ps/2 mouse not detected if ball not rolling?

2000-12-04 Thread Rob VanFleet
This is just a shot in the dark, but do you happen to have your mouse set to
/dev/gpmdata in you XF86Config?  If so, trying setting it to /dev/psaux or
/dev/mouse and see if the same behavior happens.

-Rob

On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 04:55:42AM -0500, Christopher Mosley wrote:
> 
> When starting linux if I do not roll mouse ball  I do
> not get a ps2 aux device. Then xwindows will crash when it
> does not detect mouse - crash can be prevented by
> rolling mouse ball when running startx . But alas  mouse eventually
> freezes in xwindows.  This is a hardware problem - the mouse
> was working fine.
> 
> Any reason to believe the problem is the mouse   
> or is there a reason to believe the problem is the ps2 hardware?
> Don't have adapter or another ps/2  mouse right now to test this.
> 
>  Thanks
> 
> 
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Re: Modules not showing up after compile - why?

2000-12-04 Thread Sebastiaan
Hi,
how did you compile the kernel? Basically, it works the following:
make menuconfig (config or xconfig will also work)
make clean
make dep
make bzImage
make modules_install<-- have you done this?

If you are not sure if your new kernel will work, make a copy of the
modules: mv /lib/modules/2.2.17 /lib/modules/2.2.17.org
before executing make modules_install.

Greetings,
Sebastiaan

ps: you can still try running modules_install now and see if it works.

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> Sorry for this basic query; I've always used monolithic kernels but
> decided to build a modules version to try it out and I don't understand
> what's happening.. 
> 
> I selected various modules and built the kernel. I included the kernel
> module loader to enable automatic loading of modules. The kernel
> compiled OK and I booted with it without problems. All the functions
> seem to be implemented as I expected.
> 
> 
> However, lsmod and modprobe show nothing: there is no /proc/ksyms or
> /proc/modules.
> 
> Questions: why don't these things show up, and how does the kernel work
> if the modules aren't there?
> 
> Anthony
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Re: Netscape, IMAP and compact folder

2000-12-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Debian Ghost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> On occasion, when using IMAP, my netscape will fail to compact the folder
> if I've been moving some mail from one place or another.

By this, I take it that you mean rewriting the folder without
the moved/deleted emails.

How busy is this folder? When I change folders with mutt, it often
happens that a new email is being delivered at that moment. Mutt's
reaction is to leave you in the same folder with the newly
delivered mail, which has the advantage that you don't lose your
'delete' flags in that folder. You just have to repeat the
change folders comand.

> I will have to
> restart netscape and move the mail again and then 'compact folder' is this
> a bug with netscape (4.73) or a bug with IMAP on the server? I am
> responsible for IMAP and this local machine, so either way it is my
> problem to fix :)

So what exactly does happen when it fails to compact the folder? Does
it crash? Are you changing folder at that time? Does the change succeed?
Does the folder always contain a very new email whenever you have that
problem? etc.

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Re: exim+fetchmail

2000-12-04 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 11:31:11AM -0500, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> 1) I have two ISP providers. I choose one of them when I establish the
> dial-up connection. But in the 
> exim's configuration file there is room for only one ISP. If I want to
> change the ISP should I have to edit 
> the exim's config file?  is there a way exim stores the information for
> several ISPs and, at dial-up time, inform 
> to exim to what ISP I am connecting to?

I don't think this should matter as far as recieving mail goes. If you wish to
change what address appears when you send messages you have to change the
rewrite rules at the bottom of your /etc/exim.conf. More on that if that is
what you need.

> 2) When fetchmail retrieves the email from the ISP to my machine, is exim
> who delivers them to my 
> /var/spool/mail/account file?
I could be wrong, but I think it is exim as fetchmail is supposed to grab mail
off of the server and then deliver it locally via SMTP.
 
> 3) is exim automatically called when I establish the dial-up connection?

Don't think so.
 
> 4) why the MUAs programs (for example balsa or xfmail) don't need a MTA
> for retrieve the 
> messages from the ISP (at last with pop3) but they need a MTA for sending
> the emails (via smtp)?

Most MUA's don't need anything to retrieve mail (mutt doesn't either, but
fetchmail is the better option).  I've never used xfmail, but I though balsa
had an option where you could set it to use your isp's smtp server, bypassing
the need for a local MTA.

Hope some of that helped.

-Rob 



Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Chris Mayes
I've finally managed to connect.  It looks like psql is acting odd
(then again, maybe this is the default behavior... I am normally a
MySQL/Oracle user).  Basically, psql requires that I explicitly supply
a hostname.  So, even though psql complains about being refused on port
5432 on localhost, I can connect as the user postgres by using 'psql -h
localhost.'  

I don't imagine that this is the default behavior since the regression
test fails because of the 'connection refused' error.  

Any ideas on why this might be happening?

-Chris


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Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
Chris Mayes wrote:
  >I've finally managed to connect.  It looks like psql is acting odd
  >(then again, maybe this is the default behavior... I am normally a
  >MySQL/Oracle user).  Basically, psql requires that I explicitly supply
  >a hostname.  So, even though psql complains about being refused on port
  >5432 on localhost, I can connect as the user postgres by using 'psql -h
  >localhost.'  
  >
  >I don't imagine that this is the default behavior since the regression
  >test fails because of the 'connection refused' error.  
  >
  >Any ideas on why this might be happening?
 
If you supply a hostname, it uses a TCP/IP connection; if you don't, it
uses a Unix socket.  I suspect your postgresql packages aren't all up
to date (see my previous mail about location of the Unix socket).

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Printer woes

2000-12-04 Thread Mark Phillips
Hi again,

I earlier sent a message about problems I have been having getting a
printer to work under kernel 2.4.0-test11.  Well, I since have tried
it under a 2.15 kernel on a laptop and got the same problem ---
printer not active or something to that effect.

I also took the printer home where I have a computer (using a
2.4.0-test10 kernel) with a printer where everything works.  I
connected up the problem printer instead, and it doesn't work!  Except
that here the problem is a bit different.  Here it doesn't say the
printer is not active, or offline.  On the contrary, it says that it
is active and printing, the only problem is that all that happens, is
that after a suitable period of time (1 minute or so, maybe 2) it
claims to have finished printing when in actual fact nothing has
printed at all!

Now why this is different behaviour from the original desktop (and the
laptop) I do not know.  Perhaps because the more sophisticated
parallel port communication stuff was compiled into the kernels of the
former?  I don't know.  But the bottom line is that the printer
doesn't seem to be working whichever computer I attach it to.

I know that printing works for my home desktop, so it seems to me that
it probably is a problem with the printer.  I swapped cables and that
didn't change matters, so it would seem to be a problem with the
actual printer.  It is a Canon BJC-4200.

So, the question that I have is

What should I do now?  Should I just take the printer to some repair
shop (can anyone recommend anyone?)?  Or are there other simple things
I could do to try and fix the problem?  Is there something simple I am
missing?

Are there any other ways I could check whether it is really a problem
with the printer?  (I could always, shock, horror, try and use it
under windows --- of course that would mean having to work out how to
set it up under windows).

Well I suppose this email is as much me thinking out aloud than
anything else, but if anyone has some useful feedback, I'd love to
hear it.

Thanks,

Mark.

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Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other port issues)

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 06:10:55 -0800 (PST)
Chris Mayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've finally managed to connect.  It looks like psql is acting odd
> (then again, maybe this is the default behavior... I am normally a
> MySQL/Oracle user).  Basically, psql requires that I explicitly supply
> a hostname.  So, even though psql complains about being refused on port
> 5432 on localhost, I can connect as the user postgres by using 'psql -h
> localhost.'  
> 
> I don't imagine that this is the default behavior since the regression
> test fails because of the 'connection refused' error.  

I do not need to specify a host. Localhost is used by default
here. Also, if I do not specify a database, that with my name is
chosen, but usually I do specify one.

My guess now is that you are having troubles with your network
setup. Debian usually is set up to respond as localhost on 127.0.0.1,
but also having a hostname and domain name. I'm not sure, but would
suspect that psql takes the environment variable for HOST or something
the like, to find out a default host. Does this work for you?

ping $HOSTNAME

Alternatively, you might want to set this variable to localhost (not
sure if this is a good idea). Also it's possible that you find out the
environment variable psql is using. Have a look at the files in
/etc/postgres...

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Re: Printer woes

2000-12-04 Thread Manegold
Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> I earlier sent a message about problems I have been having getting a
> printer to work under kernel 2.4.0-test11.  Well, I since have tried
> it under a 2.15 kernel on a laptop and got the same problem ---
> printer not active or something to that effect.
> 
> I also took the printer home where I have a computer (using a
> 2.4.0-test10 kernel) with a printer where everything works.  I
> connected up the problem printer instead, and it doesn't work!  Except
> that here the problem is a bit different.  Here it doesn't say the
> printer is not active, or offline.  On the contrary, it says that it
> is active and printing, the only problem is that all that happens, is
> that after a suitable period of time (1 minute or so, maybe 2) it
> claims to have finished printing when in actual fact nothing has
> printed at all!
> 
> Now why this is different behaviour from the original desktop (and the
> laptop) I do not know.  Perhaps because the more sophisticated
> parallel port communication stuff was compiled into the kernels of the
> former?  I don't know.  But the bottom line is that the printer
> doesn't seem to be working whichever computer I attach it to.
> 
> I know that printing works for my home desktop, so it seems to me that
> it probably is a problem with the printer.  I swapped cables and that
> didn't change matters, so it would seem to be a problem with the
> actual printer.  It is a Canon BJC-4200.
> 
> So, the question that I have is
> 
> What should I do now?  Should I just take the printer to some repair
> shop (can anyone recommend anyone?)?  Or are there other simple things
> I could do to try and fix the problem?  Is there something simple I am
> missing?
> 
> Are there any other ways I could check whether it is really a problem
> with the printer?  (I could always, shock, horror, try and use it
> under windows --- of course that would mean having to work out how to
> set it up under windows).
> 
> Well I suppose this email is as much me thinking out aloud than
> anything else, but if anyone has some useful feedback, I'd love to
> hear it.
> 
Unless it's a problem that Linux has with this printer, I agree that it
seems to be the printer that is the problem. If you want to make really
sure, try if you can get it to work with Windoze, if you have that
option. Otherwise back to the vendor or whoever.

Thorsten



Re: (no subject)

2000-12-04 Thread mikpolniak

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:07:10 +, Francis Irving said:

> This can be quite fiddly to do.  If you're using Windows 95/98, you can
>  configure Lilo (Linux Loader) to let you dual boot.  
>  
>  If you're using Windows NT/2000 you may find you need to use the free
>  program BootPart under NT to add an option to let it boot into Linux
>  (depending on what order you install things and on what hard disks...)
>  
>  Have a look for a HOWTO on www.linuxdoc.org.
>  
>  There's nothing in the Debian installer yet to make all this easier for
>  you (other distributions like Mandrake try to do it automatically, but
>  sometimes get it wrong).
>  
>  As well as Lilo, you might want to look at GNU's bootloader GRUB.  Its
>  most visible advantage is that it can make prettier menus.
>  
>  On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 01:14:39PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  > is it possible to double boot windows and debian on a PIII pc, perhaps 
> using 
>  > system commander?
>  > 
Well if you want a debian installer now, just d/l Stormix hail
iso which is debian potato with Stormix installer and a few extras.
The Stormix installer will easily set up your dual boot with
lilo and a nice splash screen to boot from .
Then you can do all your apt-get  update/install from any
debian mirror.



Re: [OT] Navigator 4.75 hangs, any patches?

2000-12-04 Thread mikpolniak

On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:19:54 -0500 (EST), J. Bruce Fields said:

> On 3 Dec 2000, Krzys Majewski wrote:
>  
>  > Gr. Navigator 4.75 hangs on some pages, eating all the CPU, and making
>  > all  open netscape  windows  unuseable.  This is  on  an i686,  mostly
>  > potato. Any patches/workarounds for this sort of problem? -chris
>  
>  Hm, I have problems with netscape misbehaving, but it's not so
>  particular--there aren't particular pages I know of that are guaranteed to
>  make it hang.
>  
>  Mainly I've noticed that it has memory leaks.  What works for me is I keep
>  a memory monitor going (I run gnome, and have the memory/swap load
>  monitors on the panel), and keep an eye out for creeping memory use.  
>  When I notice the memory use creeping up as I browse, I'll kill netscape
>  and restart it before it puts Linux into full-time swapping hell.
>  
>  Turning off javascript and java might help too. 
>  
>  Netscape can be a pain that way, though.  Its the one program on my system
>  that hangs fairly regularly. I feel your pain--Bruce Fields
>  
>   The best workaround is apt-get install mozilla from woody. 



Re: Modules not showing up after compile - why?

2000-12-04 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 04 Dec 2000, Harry Henry Gebel wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:16:35PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > However, lsmod and modprobe show nothing: there is no /proc/ksyms or
> > /proc/modules.
> > 
> > Questions: why don't these things show up, and how does the kernel work
> > if the modules aren't there?
> 
> Did you run LILO after you installed the kernel? If you didn't you are
> probably still booting into your old kernel. If you run `dmesg` you will
> get a list off all the boot-up messages; the first one will include the
> data the kernel was compiles. If you enabled modules you should have
> /proc/modules even if it's empty (assuming you have /proc mounted).
> 

You're right; I had the wrong kernel loaded!

Now that I've got the right one, I again can't use sound or access my
parallel port.  I get:

The kernel does not recognize /dev/sda1 as a block device
  (maybe insmod driver?)
  
Opening /dev/audio: no such device.


I don't know which drivers to install with insmod. Anyway, I thought the
kernel was supposed to call these things automatically?


Anthony

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Re: Voodoo 3, XFree 4.0 and DRI

2000-12-04 Thread Scott Patterson



>Can anybody tell me, what I have to install / configure to have a working
>GL-lib based on DRI with hardware acceleration?
>
>mfg
>  Mischel S aus P

Go to http://www.debianplanet.org and look on the left hand side. There is a
nice tutorial on installing XF4 in Debian using a Voodoo card.

Scott






Extracting .tar.gz from .deb

2000-12-04 Thread USM Bish
I am lookinf for an  alternate  method of  extracting
basic .tar.gz component from a debian package (.deb).
Alien often fails in this process, though the reverse
usually works fine.

TIA

USM Bish




Re: Woody Progress

2000-12-04 Thread Scott Patterson



>In closing, I'd like to ask another (related) question. Is there some
>particular piece of software that you think Woody is waiting for that will
>be here in a years time? GCC 3.0 perhaps?

1. GCC 3.0 - good call
2. Kernel 2.4 - add a couple releases after the initail release to stabilize it
even more
3. new installer - someone else mentioned it, but this is a definite in my book

Most of the other stuff is not so important, IMHO. GNOME and KDE are not vital
to have a system up and running. XF4 is questionable. Many people run X, so,
this could be considered important. In the meantime, XF4 keeps getting better
with more drivers as well as improved/optimized drivers. Wasn't there also
discussion for more features/changes to the package management system?

I'd guess 1-3 months after ALL of those three items are released is when they'll
(the debain gods) start to plan a freeze. Of course, it could be a year beyond
that the freeze will even complete! Until then, enjoy Woody:)

Scott

PS: Don't quote me on any of this as I'm just speculating.





apt questions?

2000-12-04 Thread Eric Richardson
Hi,

I have a laptop running SuSE 6.4 that works pretty good. I am very
interested in trying out apt and eventually moving to debian.

Does using apt make sense if I'm not using debian?

If so, where should I get apt and how do I install it?

Thanks,
Eric :-)



Re: Extracting .tar.gz from .deb

2000-12-04 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 09:08:41PM +0530, USM Bish wrote:
> I am lookinf for an  alternate  method of  extracting
> basic .tar.gz component from a debian package (.deb).
> Alien often fails in this process, though the reverse
> usually works fine.

ar -x

or 

dpkg --extract

or

dpkg-deb --extract

-- 
Eric G. Miller 



Re: apt questions?

2000-12-04 Thread Martin Fluch
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Eric Richardson wrote:

> I have a laptop running SuSE 6.4 that works pretty good. I am very
> interested in trying out apt and eventually moving to debian.
> 
> Does using apt make sense if I'm not using debian?

No, it doesn't make sense.

Martin

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Re: apt questions?

2000-12-04 Thread Jeff Green
there is an apt port now, check freshmeat for about Friday or Saturday
Jeff Green

Martin Fluch wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Eric Richardson wrote:
> 
> > I have a laptop running SuSE 6.4 that works pretty good. I am very
> > interested in trying out apt and eventually moving to debian.
> >
> > Does using apt make sense if I'm not using debian?
> 
> No, it doesn't make sense.
> 
> Martin
> 
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> reboot.
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Telling Emacs how to use Alt as Meta

2000-12-04 Thread Joerg Johannes
Hi there

Emacs is using the windows key as "meta". I'd like to use Alt instead,
because I'm used to it from when I was running SuSE and RedHat. Is there
an emacs-specific command for the .emacs file to do that?

thanks  
joerg

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Re: SCSI

2000-12-04 Thread Andy Bastien
Pending further investigation, we now allege that john gennard wrote:
> I've not had anything to do with the Scsi interface. A little while 
> ago in anticipation of trying it, I picked up a PCI board made by 
> Iwill and called a 2930U+ plus a secondhand 2.1Gig IBM OEM 
> harddrive (also a S/H CDRom Drive which I shall leave for the time 
> being).
> 
> There's plenty of literature with the Scsi Host Adaptor - little of 
> which I understand at the moment, but I live in hope. Will a Potato
> installation recognize this board - I haven't yet recompiled the
> 2.2.17 kernel for Scsi so don't know what will be involved.
> 
> The harddrive although old seems in good condition. Again, a
> problem as I can find nothing on IBM's website which helps with
> the jumper settings. There are 12 of these:- 
>   1. Spare(50pin)
>   ID bit3
>   (For Wide)
>   2. ID bit 2
>   3. ID bit 1
>   4. ID bit 0
>   5. Disable Auto Spin
>   6. SCSI term on
>   7. Disable unit attn
>   8. Spare
>   9. Auto start delay
>   10. Delay start 6/12
>   11. Disable parity
>   12. LED out
> How many jumpers do I need to set? And do I use 4 or 3 if
> the drive initially will be the only device attached?

If it's the only drive or the last drive on the cable, you'll need to
set termination on.  You probably don't want to set any of the ID bits
so that the ID of the drive will be 0.  (The ID bit jumpers set the
device number to 2^x.  Bit 1 makes the drive ID 2, bit 2 makes it 4,
bits 0 and 2 makes it 5, etc.)  The rest of the jumpers you probably
want to leave off unless you have problems with the drive.


> If I can get to understand Scsi and find it a viable alternative to
> IDE, it was my intention to attach a CD writer and some new 
> harddrives externally (the board provides for this). Here again
> I'm lost - some people I've spoken to insist only one device can 
> be attached externally whilst the literature clearly says up to 7.
> Furthermore, here in the UK no-one appears to stock any 'boxes'
> or whatever for more than one device. A stock explanation seems
> to be "haven't seen any for years - there's no call for them" 
> (One 'charming' individual said he knows nothing technical
> about computer parts "I only sell them".

You can attach up to 7 devices to a SCSI-2 chain, and 15 to Ultra SCSI
or better.  Whether they are internal or external is irrelevant,
although you do need to stay within the cable length limitations.
These limitations vary, but, as a rule of thumb, 2m total cable length
is usually fine.  Seagate's website has some good information about
SCSI specs if you want more detail.

There are companies that sell external SCSI chassis over the web.  I
don't know any off-hand, but if search around you'll find them.  There
probably are some within the UK.



Mount ftp fs

2000-12-04 Thread Mats Eriksson
Hi !

Does anyone know a way to mount a remote file systems
over ftp ?
I found something called "userfs" but it seemed
incomplete and out of date.
(I guess "sitecopy" is another way to do what I want
to do but mounting would be cooler.)

/Mats

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Xmas shopping (will this bit of HW work)

2000-12-04 Thread Ray Percival
I'm going to be getting a new mouse/trackball for xmas. Before I start
 telling people what I want though I thought I'd check with you all.
 So have any of you used the logitech Trackman Marble Wheel and in particular 
does it work with USB under a straight up 2.2 install? Thanks
for any info.
 



Re: SCSI

2000-12-04 Thread John F. Davis
What is the minimum connector distance for scsi II?

Here is why I ask.  I have a internal scsi ribbon cable
for connecting two units.  I really want to connect
three scsi units to it.  Instead of buying a expensive scsi
cable, I bought a cheap plastic ribbon cable connector which
I would like to use as a third connection for this cable.
I also have access to a cable connector tool.  i.e. a tool which
connects connectors to ribbon cables.  I just want to make sure
that don't connect the connectors to close together.

John



Re: 3dfx kernel module

2000-12-04 Thread Joerg Johannes
There was an e-mail on this list some weeks ago from Peter Jay Salzman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

He wrote:

>dear fellow voodoo3 owners,
>
>the debian driver for your card will NOT work with 2.4 kernels.  not even if
>you compile it from the source code.
>
>the file operations table is an array of pointers to functions which
>implement file operations which would be useful to a device, like reading
>and writing.
>
>the problem is, when linux attempts to support new devices, new operations
>need to be implemented, so the file operations table (fops table) needs to
>be changed from time to time.
>
>the fops table is different between the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels.  hence, your
>card will not work under 2.4 without modifying 3dfx_driver.c.
>
>i have the diff necessary to upgrade your driver to 2.4, but it's not
>perfect.  it works very well, but there are some games where opengl
>functions don't do their thing.  sometimes you can see through walls, or
>sometimes textures get "beads" around them.  it's not really bad; just
>annoying.  some games are affected quite a bit, like soldier of fortune
>(love that game!).  some seem to be affected almost not at all, like
>quake 3.
>
>my recommendation is to stay with 2.2.  but if you really want to upgrade to
>2.4, some kind soul was nice enough to post his 2.4 upgrade diff to the
>debain bug-track site.  if you have trouble applying his patch, i'll send
>you my copy.
>
>hopefully, the opengl glitches will be solved sooner or later.  i've emailed
>the maintainer, steve haslam, twice and he's ignored my emails.  he has
>unclosed bug reports that date back to over 200 days ago, so i'm not sure
>we're going to see an update for this driver for a while.
>
>pete

I don't know anything further, so if you still have questions, contact
him directly

hope this helps

joerg


Richard Taylor schrieb:
> 
> I was wondering, if you want to use the 3dfx kernel module with a kernel
> other than 2.2.17, what do you have to do?
> When I needed to install the module I just grabbed the source, because
> there is no binary (of course) from the debian archive and then
> followed the simple instructions. These build the module for a 2.2.17
> kernel as I said, which I recall being quite put-out about at the time,
> because I was using a 2.4.test series kernel, and saw no reason to
> downgrade.I still don't.
> So to reiterate: What must I do to get this module working with my 2.4.test
> or any other kernel for that matter? I mean, being stuck to 2.2.17 is not
> going to be satisfactory for much longer.
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
> 
> Richard Taylor
> 
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Re: exim+fetchmail

2000-12-04 Thread Mario Olimpio de Menezes
On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:

> Hello!

Hi Marcelo,

> 
> I am configuring the email in a potato box. I am connected to my ISP via
> modem. I want to use exim+fetchmail+mutt. So far I have some questions,
> and I wonder if someone in this fantastic 
> list can help me:
> 

> 
> 2) When fetchmail retrieves the email from the ISP to my machine, is exim
> who delivers them to my 
> /var/spool/mail/account file?

yes. fetchmail establish a smtp connection on port 25 and pass your
emails along to exim.

> 
> 3) is exim automatically called when I establish the dial-up connection?

look at /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ and see if there is a exim file; it's a shell
script that call exim upon connect.

> 
> 4) why the MUAs programs (for example balsa or xfmail) don't need a MTA
> for retrieve the 
> messages from the ISP (at last with pop3) but they need a MTA for sending
> the emails (via smtp)?

because they have pop3 built in but no SMTP.

[]s
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IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
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Re: DNS problem after upgrade to woody

2000-12-04 Thread Giulio Morgan
kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:

> on Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 10:51:02AM -0500, Giulio Morgan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > kmself@ix.netcom.com writes:
> > 
> > > on Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 10:54:37PM -0500, Giulio Morgan ([EMAIL 
> > > PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > After upgrading, I am unable to connect to mailserver with
> > > > fetchmail, to remore hosts with apt, telnet, ssh, irc, lynx or
> > > > mozilla. Messages are:
> > > > unable to resolve host...
> > > > something wicked happened...
> > > > domain name could not be confirmed...
> > > > it appears that there is a problem with DNS and I have no idea how
> > > > to resolve it.
> > > 
> > > Is your named daemon running?  I've found that several daemons fail to
> > > restart after upgrades.  DNS resolution tends to be poor without a
> > > running named
> > 
> > Thank you Karsten, 
> > 
> > I can't determine if my "named" is running. 
> 
> BTW, I should mention DNS isn't my strong suite, though I've poked at it
> enough for it to roll over and die from time to time.
> 
> Q'n'D:
> 
> $ ps aux | grep [n]amed
> root 1398 0.0 0.7 2612 1832 ?   S Nov29   0:12 /usr/sbin/named
> 
> You may only be using /etc/resolv.conf, you don't need to run named, and
> quite probably shouldn't. 
> 
> If you've got a file /etc/init.d/named, you can try running it:
> 
> $ /etc/init.d/named start
> 
> ...to see what happens.  It'll just bitch at you if it's already
> running.
> 
> > I checked logs to see if I
> > could find any meaningful indication, and comparing pre- and
> > post-upgrade logs, I noted that in the post-upgrade syslog, there is
> > an entry: 
> > ...inetd[1731]: smtp/tcp: bind: Address already in use
> 
> I believe this is different.  named doesn't run out of indetd.  I think
> it's trying to bind to a socket.
> 
> > which does not appear in my pre-upgrade logs
> > 
> > In the ppp.log, there is a line:
> > ...ppd[324]: not replacing existing default route to tap0 [0.0.0.0]
> > and then further down, after immediately after connection is established, 
> > the
> > following lines appear:
> > ...ppd[324]: local address...
> > ...ppd[324]: remote address 198.6.71.8 (correct address, line not copied
> > verbatim)
> > ...ppd[324]: script /etc/ppp/ip-up started
> > up to here, everything as before, then,
> > ...diald[207]: calling site 192.168.0.2 (don't know whose address)
> > ...diald[207]: Error opening device /dev/modem: no such file or directory
> > ...diald[207]: No devices free to call out on
> 
> Are you getting your network connection?  If you're relying on your
> ISP's DNS servers, and can't raise your PPP link, you're going to have
> trouble resovling hosts, but you can't reach them anyway .
> 
> Looks like you might have a modem config issue.  Hardware layer beats IP
> layer any day of the week.
> 
> > In pre-upgrade log, the next line after script /etc/ppp/ip-up started,
> > I don't remember exactly, but some indication of the successful
> > completion of the script, diald not invoked.
> 
> Haven't used diald myself, but you might look at / play with pppconf.
> 
> 
> I'd strongly suggest looking at the Network Administrator's Guide, by
> Olaf Kirche, included as 'NAG' in /usr/doc/ldp-nag  It's got a nice
> little section which should be all you need to get DNS configured for a
> standalone box, plus data on other networking issues.  The new edition
> (released this year) is well worth the upgrade.  There's another
> O'Reilly book on DNS and BIND, but it's most likely overkill.
> 
> 
> For troubleshooting:
> 
>   - Find out if you've got a network connection.  Try pinging a fixed
> IP.  For example, www.sourceforge.net (216.104.232.234 -- so you
> don't have to resolve it).  If you can reach that, you've got an
> external link.
> 
>   - Check your DNS configs.  It's usually something stupid like having
> 'order hosts,bind' out of order in /etc/host.conf (you want it as
> stated), the wrong DNS forwarders in /etc/resolv.conf, or a broken
> DNS config.  I'd shoot for a caching-only nameserver first, before
> getting too tricked out.
> 
>   - Read the book, 'coz I'm all out of trix.

Thank you Karsten for all the advice. After spending some time trying to
configure a DNS server, trying to reconfigure resolve.conf, hosts.conf (both of
which were fine), and trying to get diald (which I had never explicitly tried
to iinstall) working, I finally dpkg removed diald, and just using my old
pppconfig, everything worked fine.

I guess that what was happening was not a "DNS" or "named" problem, just that
diald was initiated at boot, and then, after I made a ppp connection (pon),
each time I tried to connect to a remote host, diald attempted to make a
connection, and, finding the port and modem already in use, caused the
application to return a "standard" error message. Not having intended to
install diald during the upgrade, I didn't think out the error properly.

The only useful question for anyone else might be why did diald ge

Re: shutdown&power off for ordinary users

2000-12-04 Thread Marcin Landowski
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:57:11PM +0100, Alson van der Meulen wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 12:36:34PM +0100, A.E. Roy wrote:
> > I´m running 2.2 with two users, #1 has the rootpassword, #2 don´t. When #2 
> > is finnished using the machine, he does a logout, and the machine reboots, 
> > he then turns the power off, and when restarting it all the partitions has 
> > to be cheched because they weren´t cleanly unmounted. How to I make #2 able 
> > to cleanly unmount?
> 
> Look for /etc/shutdown.allow

In my opinion the simplest way to resolve this problem is to
modify /etc/inittab standard line

# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
  ===
to 

ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -h now
  ===

In this situation (the best in home use) everybody can easly shut
down corretly the system by simple CTRL-ALT-DEL :-).
In KDE it is possible, using kdm, configure the simple user allow shut
down the system. If I remember in wdm it is possible also.
 
best rigards


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> debian-user-digest Digest Volume 100 :
Issue 732

> Today's Topics:
>   Re: Modules not showing up after com  [ Sebastiaan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Netscape, IMAP and compact folde  [ David Wright
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: exim+fetchmail[ Rob VanFleet
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other  [ Chris Mayes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other  [ "Oliver Elphick"
 ]
>   Printer woes  [ Mark Phillips
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Postgres Port Problem (and other  [ Christoph Simon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Printer woes  [ Manegold
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: (no subject)  [ mikpolniak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: [OT] Navigator 4.75 hangs, any p  [ mikpolniak
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Modules not showing up after com  [ Anthony Campbell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Voodoo 3, XFree 4.0 and DRI   [ "Scott Patterson"
   Extracting .tar.gz from .deb  [ USM Bish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
>   Re: Woody Progress[ "Scott Patterson"
   apt questions?[ Eric Richardson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
>   Re: Extracting .tar.gz from .deb  [ "Eric G . Miller"
 ]
>   Re: apt questions?[ Martin Fluch
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>   Re: apt questions?[ Jeff Green
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>   Telling Emacs how to use Alt as Meta  [ Joerg Johannes
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Firewalling in potato

2000-12-04 Thread Carlo U. Segre

Hello All:

I wanted to know what the proper way would be to set up firewalling rules
in a potato system.  Putting the ipfwadm or ipchains lines in
/etc/init.d/networking (I have used /etc/init.d/netbase in slink) is the
most direct way I can think of but that may not be the "right" way to do
it.  Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Carlo

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Re: printer not responding --- driving me mad!

2000-12-04 Thread Erik Steffl
  I am running 2.2.17 so this might not be entirely relevant but might
give you some ideas, I have following printer/parallel port related
modules (at least these, there might be some others I forgot):

parport_probe   3344   0  (autoclean)
parport_pc  7312   1  (autoclean)
lp  5232   0  (autoclean)
parport 7072   1  (autoclean) [parport_probe parport_pc
lp]

  the idea is that there is module for parallel printer and there is
separate module for lp device (which I guess might not be parallel port
in all cases).

erik

Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running a 2.4.0-test11 kernel under debian linux (potato + a little
> woody).  I have a printcap file which has worked before.  I understand
> that what used to be /dev/lp1 in 2.0 kernels is now /dev/lp0 so I have
> made this change.  But neither lprng, nor the standard lpr work.  I have
> unplugged and plugged the cable so I think it's connected okay.
> 
> Using lprng, when I do lpq I get the following message, after waiting a
> while:
> 
> # lpq
> Printer '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' - cannot open connection - Connection timed out
> Make sure LPD server is running on the server
> 
> Using lpr, the "lpq" command works, but when I try to print, it comes up
> with
> 
> # lpr test.txt
> lpr: connect: No such file or directory
> jobs queued, but cannot start daemon.
> 
> I tried typing directly to /dev/lp0, but part way through it came up with
> 
> # cat > /dev/lp0
> sasfasdf
> asdfasdfsdf
> cat: write error: Input/output error
> 
> I don't know what's wrong.  Is there something wrong with my kernel?
> 
> I have the lp module loaded okay:
> 
> # lsmod
> Module  Size  Used by
> ppp_deflate39168   0  (autoclean)
> bsd_comp4128   0  (autoclean)
> ppp_async   6192   1  (autoclean)
> ppp_generic12800   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp
> ppp_async]
> slhc4496   1  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> ipt_MASQUERADE  1328   1  (autoclean)
> iptable_filter  1856   0  (unused)
> iptable_nat12224   0  [ipt_MASQUERADE]
> ip_conntrack   12352   1  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat]
> ip_tables   9856   5  [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_filter
> iptable_nat]
> lp  4480   0  (autoclean)
> 
> I don't know what else to try.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Mark.
> 
> P.S. My printcap is:
> 
> lp|bjc4200|Canon BJC-4200:\
> :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/bjc4200:\
> :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\
> :if=/etc/magicfilter/bjc4200-filter:\
> :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:
> 
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Re: Mount ftp fs

2000-12-04 Thread mikpolniak

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:50:07 +0100 (CET), Mats Eriksson said:

> Hi !
>  
>  Does anyone know a way to mount a remote file systems
>  over ftp ?
>  I found something called "userfs" but it seemed
>  incomplete and out of date.
>  (I guess "sitecopy" is another way to do what I want
>  to do but mounting would be cooler.)
>  
What about ftp>! escape to shell and then telnet in to mount,
and then exit back to ftp> ?



Re: Mount ftp fs

2000-12-04 Thread Robert Waldner
On 04 Dec 2000 11:17:20 EST, mikpolniak writes:
>On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:50:07 +0100 (CET), Mats Eriksson said:
>>  Does anyone know a way to mount a remote file systems
>>  over ftp ?
>>  
>   What about ftp>! escape to shell and then telnet in to mount,
>and then exit back to ftp> ?

I think Mats meant something like
 mount -t ftp ftp://x.y /mnt/ftp 
;-)

And _that_ would be something I´d like to know about also...

cheers,
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Pkg XFree86-common 4.0.1-9

2000-12-04 Thread Rick Loga
I did an apt-get upgrade on my woody box.  The last time was about 3 months 
ago.  Now it no longer gives me a gdm login screen.  It just stays in a command 
line console.  When I do startx I get:
"cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory), aborting...Can't connect:  
errno=111, giving up".
It looks like woody now uses release 4 of Xfree86.  Is there a new 
configuration tool?  XF86Config no longer works to configure X.  The Debian 
site for the package says to read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common but that file 
does not exist either.

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Re: Hi all

2000-12-04 Thread Robert Guthrie
On Friday 01 December 2000 23:35, Tim Uckun wrote:

> digging around a bit I found out I was running on run-level 2! WTF?? I then
> changed the inittab and did a reboot (just to be sure) and bash segfaulted
> on me.

Note that run level 2 is the default run level in debian.  I never did 
understand why redhad wanted to start with 3...

1 = single user mode
2,3,4,5 = vendor/administrator defined run levels
6 = reboot

As you can see, 2 is just as valid as 3 for run levels, so why not start with 
2 and let administrators mess with a set of consecutive run levels instead of 
skipping around?  By default, run level 3 should be identical to 2, ready for 
you to alter as you see fit, so there's no reason it should have acted 
differently than 2.

I don't blame you for wanting to re-install.  A segfault in the midst of an 
initial install would spook me too.  Hope it goes well the next time around!
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Lame Question about xkbcomp/xkbsel

2000-12-04 Thread Ryan King
I rudely sent this to the package maintainer before I sent this here.  The
instant I hit send (of course), I realized that this list is a more appropriate
location for this question.

I am simply a clueless user trying to figure out how to get Dvorak keymappings
working with XF4 (Woody).

I have tried the following:
Reading xkbsel(5) and (1)
Putting the following in /etc/xkb/xkbsel.conf:
dv = dvorak 
dv = xfree86(dvorak)
dv = dvorak(basic)
dv = /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak
dv = /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak(basic)
dv = /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak
dv = /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak(basic)
...and so on.

After a pointI realized that xkbsel probably selects from compiled keymaps...
so I started playing with xkbcomp.

I ran xkbcomp as:
xkbcomp /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak
xkbcomp /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak /var/lib/xkbsel/compiled/dvorak.xkm
xkbcomp /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/dvorak -o /var/lib/xkbsel/compiled/dvorak.xkm

And none of them produced the .xkm as I expected.  Matter of fact, from my best
readings of the output of strace, it wasn't trying to.

Again, I apologize for being such a clueless newbie, but I think this process
is a little difficult, and I would like to do two things: 1) Get it working for
myself, and 2) Maybe help refine the docs a little so the next person after me
doesn't have to email one of the package maintainers.

Thanks in advance,
 - Ryan King




Re: Mount ftp fs

2000-12-04 Thread Christoph Simon
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 17:26:53 +0100
Robert Waldner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 04 Dec 2000 11:17:20 EST, mikpolniak writes:
> >On Mon, 4 Dec 2000 16:50:07 +0100 (CET), Mats Eriksson said:
> >>  Does anyone know a way to mount a remote file systems
> >>  over ftp ?
> >>  
> > What about ftp>! escape to shell and then telnet in to mount,
> >and then exit back to ftp> ?
> 
> I think Mats meant something like
>  mount -t ftp ftp://x.y /mnt/ftp 
> ;-)
> 
> And _that_ would be something I´d like to know about also...

I think the midnight commander can simulate something like that.

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Re: [OT] Navigator 4.75 hangs, any patches?

2000-12-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:00:12AM -0500, mikpolniak wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2000 22:19:54 -0500 (EST), J. Bruce Fields said:
> 
> > On 3 Dec 2000, Krzys Majewski wrote:
> >  
> >  > Gr. Navigator 4.75 hangs on some pages, eating all the CPU, and making
> >  > all  open netscape  windows  unuseable.  This is  on  an i686,  mostly
> >  > potato. Any patches/workarounds for this sort of problem? -chris
> >  
> >  Hm, I have problems with netscape misbehaving, but it's not so
> >  particular--there aren't particular pages I know of that are guaranteed to
> >  make it hang.

One thing I've noticed that has helped considerable, although I
currently use Mozilla nightlies more than NS, is to download and install
the Java Runtime Environment from the Blackdown folks
(http://www.blackdown.org).  The 1.3.0 version includes the plugin for
NS 4.x and I do know it works quite well with 4.75.  Unfortunately, the
packaging system won't let you de-install the NS java package without
removing all of Communicator.  G!  So now I'm stuck with two
versions of Java eating drive space.  Hurry up Mozilla!

:)

- Nate >>

P.S. The Blackdown JRE is supposed to work with Mozilla, but Moz pukes
on it for some reason.

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help building courier-imap 1.0 on potato

2000-12-04 Thread Jaume Teixi
I'm trying to build courier-imap 1.0 on a potato server,
but compilation fails here:

---
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -c
authldap.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -c
preauthldap.c
echo "#define AUTHLDAPRC \"/etc/courier-imap.authldaprc\"" >authldaprc.h
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -g -O2 -Wall -I.. -I./.. -c
authldaplib.c
authldaplib.c: In function `copy_value':
authldaplib.c:340: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
authldaplib.c: In function `ldaperror':
authldaplib.c:372: warning: implicit declaration of function
`NAME_ERROR'
authldaplib.c: In function `ldapopen':
authldaplib.c:430: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
make[2]: *** [authldaplib.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/courier-imap-1.0/authlib'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/courier-imap-1.0'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
---

how to handle this ?

thanks,
jaume



Re: Pkg XFree86-common 4.0.1-9

2000-12-04 Thread Scott Patterson



>I did an apt-get upgrade on my woody box.  The last time was
>about 3 months ago.  Now it no longer gives me a gdm login screen.
>It just stays in a command line console.  When I do startx I get:
>"cannot stat /etc/X11/X (No such file or directory),
>aborting...Can't connect:  errno=111, giving up".
>It looks like woody now uses release 4 of Xfree86.  Is there
>a new configuration tool?  XF86Config no longer works to
>configure X.  The Debian site for the package says to read
>/usr/share/doc/xfree86-common but that file does not exist
>either.

dexter





Re: kde2

2000-12-04 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Sunday 03 December 2000 19:12, Eileen Orbell wrote:
> Anyone know where to get kde2.deb from?  I added to my sources-list the
> line shown on the kde website:
> debian-user@lists.debian.org
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2
> But this returns errors..


This error is the key!  Either the web site is down or the apt-sources lines 
have changed?! 
 
> Failed to fetch ftp://kde.tdyc.com/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages
>Unable to fetch file, server said
> '/dists/potato/kde2/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory.

Hmm the apt-source line is deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato kde2 
Maybe if I browse over to http://kde.tdyc.com?!  Hey, the web site is up, so 
the sources lines must be incorrect.  Hey, the new sources lines are on this 
page!!!  I'd be willing to bet that by the time you read this email you will 
have already figured this out ;-)

Jesse



>
> thank you
>
> Eileen Orbell
> Software & Internet Applications
> Capitol College
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Re: apt questions?

2000-12-04 Thread Raphael Deimel

- Original Message -
From: "Eric Richardson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:34 PM
Subject: apt questions?


> Hi,
>
> I have a laptop running SuSE 6.4 that works pretty good. I am very
> interested in trying out apt and eventually moving to debian.
>
> Does using apt make sense if I'm not using debian?

It dosn't make sense, as suse does have its own package management
But I think there were some efforts in porting apt to other distro's
Perhaps you should just try out debian (once upon a time i used suse too ;),
but be aware that configuration is done very differently (redhat style
configuration is quite similar too it)

>
> If so, where should I get apt and how do I install it?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric :-)
>
>
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2000-12-04 Thread Gary Rice
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Re: Woody Progress

2000-12-04 Thread Raphael Deimel

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: Woody Progress

> 2. Kernel 2.4 - add a couple releases after the initail release to
stabilize it
> even more
I already run Woody with 2.4test kernel, the only problem i found til now is
the lacking vendor-side accelleration support of my goood old TNT2 :(
btw. woody is unstable, so 2.4.0 will probably be the standard-kernel very
soon

> 3. new installer - someone else mentioned it, but this is a definite in my
book
called deity, imho definitely a must (dselect drives me nuts when i'm
searching for packages ;)

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Re: Firewalling in potato

2000-12-04 Thread ^chewie
On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 10:11:54AM -0600, Carlo U. Segre wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> I wanted to know what the proper way would be to set up firewalling rules
> in a potato system.  Putting the ipfwadm or ipchains lines in
> /etc/init.d/networking (I have used /etc/init.d/netbase in slink) is the
> most direct way I can think of but that may not be the "right" way to do
> it.  Any suggestions?

I just got done with YAFI (Yet another Firewall Installation) this
weekend.  I've been making an init.d script of my own that will save
or restore the firewall rules out of the /etc/firewall directory.
It's a real simple script that takes advantage of four applications:
ipchains, ipchains-save, ipchains-restore, and date.  I've attached it
to the end of this email message.  Perhaps it'll help you out.

Personally, I like the IPChains rules that you find in Section 7 of
the IPCHAINS-HOWTO.  You can reference this at
http://www.linuxdoc.org/. 

Ultimately, I'd like to tie in my firewall rules to ifup/ifdown
scripts and take advantage of Debian's clean network interface
scripts.  It would involve something like adding the lines:

   {up|pre-up|down|post-down} {command} 

where {command} may be something like 

run-parts {if-up.d|if-pre-up.d|if-down.d|if-post-down.d}

or a specific script for that interface:

up /etc/firewall/eth0.rules up
post-down /etc/firewall/eth0.rules post-down
# etc...

The Debian package 'ipmasq' does something similar, but examines your
interfaces for you, making some decisions based on the routing as to
which interfaces are external and which interfaces are internal.  It
seems more specialized for ppp dialup situations where you don't have
dial-on-demand set up.  (I had no few troubles trying to get this
package to bend to my will.)  The 'run-parts' scripts will only work
in a generic manner if we can grab info about the interface that is
being brought up or down.  I'll need to do more research to find out
what tyoe of environment variables the ifup/ifdown scripts pass on to
it's child scripts.

If you have interfaces constantly going up and down or changing their
IP addresses, you SHOULD use the interfaces(5) file to launch
respective interface-specific firewall scripts.  Anyway, here's my
init.d script.  Hope it helps:

#--- BEGIN SCRIPT HERE --
#!/bin/sh
# Firewall rules
# by Chad Walstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
# Last update: 2000/12/03

IPCHAINS=/sbin/ipchains
RESTORE=/sbin/ipchains-restore
SAVE=/sbin/ipchains-save
RULES=/etc/firewall/firewall.rules
RULESDIR=/etc/firewall

test -d ${RULESDIR} || mkdir ${RULESDIR}

flush() {
${IPCHAINS} -F
}

noforward() {
echo "0" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
}

# For masquerade support
forward() {
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
}

saverules() {
cp ${RULES} ${RULES}.`date +%s`
${SAVE} > ${RULES}
}

restorerules() {
${RESTORE} -f < ${RULES}
}

case $1 in
start)
echo -n "Initializing firewall..."
flush
# Change this to nofoward if you're not masquerading or
# bridging
forward
restorerules
echo "done."
;;
stop)
echo -n "Halting all traffic..."
noforward

# Uncomment to save rules on stop -- POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS
#saverules

flush
echo "done."
;;
save)
echo "Saving firewall rules..."
saverules
echo "Done."
;;
restart|reload|forced-reload)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
*)
echo "Useage: $0 {start|stop|restart|reload|forced-reload|save}"
echo ""
echo "See also: ipchains(8), ipchains-save(8), ipchains-restore(8),"
echo "IPCHAINS-HOWTO (http://www.linuxdoc.org)"
;;
esac

# vi:et:ai:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4:
#--- END SCRIPT HERE --

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