Re: apt && woody.
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Peter Palfrader wrote: > Maybe apt should simply retry after all the other stuff got downloaded? It can try forever, glibc always returns that :| Jason
VGA parameters at boot (Was:Lilo and vga=mode Question)
Hello, I am very interested in having my PC booting right into a high resolution mode, because I have a fixed frequency monitor. Right now I have runlevel 5 , but this means that I cannot work in text mode, and that if some error message appears during boot I never see it. I know about the Svgatext mode package, but: 1) booting straight with a good VGA mode would give me readable text before than SVGATextmode could ever do, and would also be easier to set up, wouldn't it? 2) If this is the case, and assuming that my available mode are something like : > > 0 0F00 80x25 > 1 0F01 80x50 > 2 0F02 80x43 ... how can I figure out which of them is OK for my monitor (of which I have both datasheet and a perfectly working Xfree86 modeline) without risking to blow it? 3) If none of them works, and I still want high resolution VGA at boot time, what should I do? Recompile the kernel? How? 4) Last but not least: is somebody using successfully SVGAText mode with a MATROX AGP 200 and a SUN GDM1962b monitor? Could I ask you to send me your configuration file? Thanks in advance, Marco Fioretti
Re: whence "ping -w"?
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Will Day wrote: > A short time ago, at a computer terminal far, far away, Carel Fellinger wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me where to find this ping command that offers a "-w" > >> option (or any other option to set the timeout)? Or maybe I'm just crazy > > > >ping -i > > No, that's the delay between multiple packets, not the timeout for each > packet. Yes (ping, most implementations of it I guess) does not have a 'timeout' (if they're at all similar to the one I studied (bing actually)). Note that the following will not really help you at all, it's just FYI. IIRC, most ping implementations send an 8 byte timestamp obtained with gettimeofday as the payload of their ICMP echo request packets. This payload is copied in the ICMP echo reply packets. So wwhen ping receives an ICMP echo reply message that is addressed to itself (matching icmp id), it just does another call to gettimeofday, substract the timestamp that was returned, and print the RTT. This way ping does not need to keep track of all the packets it sent and thus does not need a timeout. It can even handle packets that come back out of order. I was really confused by ping's code until I realized that. Then I thought it was pretty cool. -- Francois Gouget [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://fgouget.free.fr/ In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice they're different.
uptime losing time?
Hello all, Does noflushd affect uptime? I'm a little puzzeled as to why my uptime says 2:16 when in fact the machine has been on for about 2 weeks. Any insights? Thanks, Matt
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Pap Tibor wrote: > > > On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Kristian Rink wrote: > > > In this case I recommend downloading the standard Mozilla build directly > > > from > > > > > > http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ > > > > > > where You will find several packages for Linux-x86 as generic Linux > > > binaries > > > > On that page I've found Linux-i686 binaries only! This is the case, or > > I've missed something? I suppose so that i686 binary won't run on simple > > old pentium. > > I've run those "i686" binaries on a P150 and they work. They're much too > slow to be usable, though that may be the fault of the memory (32 megs) Yes! At last I downloaded that binary, and tried it on my 100 MHz Pentium box. It's not a speed recorder, but quite usable. I'm satisfied with its performance. I have 64 megs memory in my computer. Another question: I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection through modem is quite expensive and slow.) Thanks, --Tibor Pap -.Sig e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:57:55PM -0500, David Bellows wrote: > The numbers in the second column are in hex. The proper way to specify > hex for lilo would be (for you specifically): > vga=0x0122 is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: libc6 header problems
In reply to myself (thanks to those who replied):
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 06:31:05PM -0600, Pat Mahoney wrote:
> I keep getting these parse errors when trying to compile programs.
>
> compiling xmms (latest cvs):
>
> /usr/include/netinet/in.h:236: parse error before ('
> /usr/include/netinet/in.h:237: parse error before ('
> /usr/include/netinet/in.h:239: parse error before ('
> /usr/include/netinet/in.h:241: parse error before ('
>
> and when compiling ocsalib:
>
> /usr/include/string.h:37: parse error before `?'
> /usr/include/string.h:55: parse error before `?'
>
> I have latest (woody) deb's of libc6, libc6-dev, and gcc. Anyone else
> have the same problem? Are these bugs or is something on my system out
> of date? (I'm between woody and potato).
I just got libc and libc6-dev 2.1.96-1. Same problem. Also, I am
about 98% woody (unlike last time). I also know that my friend runs
debian woody and *is* able to compile xmms, for example. I've tried
both the cvs version and the source deb. My friend had the cvs.
A parse error seems like it should be an easy fix...too bad I'm
incompetent. But why is this happening at all? Obviously it is just
me or at least not most people (searching the mail archives turns up
nothing).
--
Pat Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for
reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."
-- Albert Einstein
Re: Strange PPP Server
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 06:14:38PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Flyitlow writes: > > The correct way to use noauth is to place it in the peers file, > > /etc/ppp/peers/[name]. > > pppconfig does that. Here's the latest, I used pppconfig, and got (some munging has taken place)... hide-password noauth connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/TFN" /dev/ttyS0 debug 115200 defaultroute noipdefault user remotename TFN ipparam TFN usepeerdns idle 1800 When I try, I get this: Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xcaf433b1] Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [PAP AuthReq id=0x1 user="" password="***"] Nov 2 17:18:37 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0xd84e1b24] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [PAP AuthAck id=0x1 ""] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xa5 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfRej id=0xa5 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [proto=0x8207] 01 52 00 04 Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Unsupported protocol 0x8207 received Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP ProtRej id=0x2 82 07 01 52 00 04] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP ProtRej id=0xa 80 fd 01 01 00 0f 1a 04 78 00 18 04 78 00 15 03 2f] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0xa6] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0xa6] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3 ] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Could not determine remote IP address Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [IPCP TermReq id=0x4 "Could not determine remote IP address"] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [IPCP TermAck id=0x4] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "No network protocols running"] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x3] Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Connection terminated. Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Connect time 0.2 minutes. Nov 2 17:18:38 fennywood pppd[2878]: Sent 432 bytes, received 375 bytes. Nov 2 17:18:39 fennywood pppd[2878]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Nov 2 17:18:39 fennywood pppd[2878]: Exit. So it looks to me like the DNS configuration has taken place, and the authorization also seems to have worked. What makes it not detect the remote IP address? Thanks for your help so far! -- Jonathan Markevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/jmarkevich == It's VIRUSES, not VIRII! See http://language.perl.com/misc/virus.html == One of the signs of Napoleon's greatness is the fact that he once had a publisher shot. -- Siegfried Unseld
Special dev access for users @ the console?
Hello debian ppl! I am a lab admin. I need to give access to the floppy (/dev/fd0), zip drive (/dev/hdd), and sound (/dev/dsp) to the person logged in at the console (x or tty). If this was my personal machine, I would just put the users in the group console. Unforfunately, this cannot be the case. I have around 6500 users, and they are all able to login to these machines remotely. While I agree it would be a good practical joke to start playing loud music in another room, it wouldn't be prudent in a lab setting. I have similiar problems with the floppy and the zip (ide floppy version).. these devices would be even worse because another user could steal code from another (NOT GOOD!). I was wondering if anyone had any solutions for me. I have thought of two different solutions: 1) Use pam_console, compiled separately. I don't really want to do this, because debian doesn't include the file for a reason: it's got a gaping security hole, users can hold open file descriptors on devices after they're not using a console (through screen, perhaps) and that basically makes the changing users a moot point. 2) Use pam_group, and add them to a group when they're logged in on the console. This works on ttys, I've read, but not on xdm sessions. It's important that it works in X because this is what most of our lab users (and newbies to linux sometimes, yay!) use most of the time. Forcing them to login to a tty isn't really desireable. My question is: Does anyone have any other solutions? Or can one of my solutions be modified to negate my problems with the solution? Mike Janssen College of Natural Sciences Lab Administrator
Re: World's largest mailing list?
At 12:23 PM 11/2/00 -0700, you wrote: > Its not exactly a Debian/Linux question, but does anyone know how many > email addresses are on the world's largest mailing list, and the OS/HW > it runs on? Average messages per day? Well, I can tell you that the debian.org list server has 8 subscribers to all of it's lists. The largest list is debian-announce with 14 thousand. The total traffic we do is on the order of 50 remote deliveries per day, with peak traffic rates of 30-40 remote deliveries per second. Till recently it was running on an older P166 with IDE disks, now it has a PII 400. It runs Debian GNU/Linux and qmail with smartlist (bleck). My Devil's Advocate is whispering in my ear. I'd be very worried if it wasn't a debian-based machine! I wonder if there are any major linux "vendors" who don't use their own distros for internal use I once visited the machine room of a large local power company who was thoroughly in bed with Compaq. They had 20-odd proliant servers, and their NT-based office network PDC was a HP E70 (?) -- Criggie
Re: Which editor for programming?
Stephan Kulka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >From ??? Fri Feb 19 09: 25 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Nov 1 16: 03 >Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]) >by tbird.iworld.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id eA1L3eY12690: >for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16: 03 >Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16 >Received: (qmail 23679 invoked by uid 38); 1 Nov 2000 21 >X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: (qmail 23638 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2000 21 >Received: from stud3.tuwien.ac.at ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) >by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 1 Nov 2000 21: 00 >Received: from stud3.tuwien.ac.at ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [193.170.75.13]) >by stud3.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA04234: >for ; Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22: 00 >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22 >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org >X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/115363 >X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Precedence: list >Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I started programming in C and I would like to know whether there is an >editor which is especially good for writing and editing source code. At >the moment I am using vi at the command line. >Besides I would like to know where to start reading about using the >shellvariables, e.g. PATH . > >TIA > >Stephan For sure, Vi and Emacs are the standards, but Since I discvered Kdevelop 1.2 ( standard with Kde ), I always use it , and I earn much time using it. Kdevelop really is a standard IDE ( Integrated Development Environment ) It include a Graphical Debugger ( Kdbg : Really useful ) and a Customizable Graphical Editor ( Choose Kwrite at kdevelop install ). You can Also use Kwrite and/or Kdbg separately. For all this you will have to Instal a full Kde. Don't choose KDE2, kdevelop needs KDE 1.2 & associated qt libraries You can have a look at www.kdevelop.org before installing. Hope you will find your tools and Programmer happyness -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com
Re: Which editor for programming?
Damien wrote: > > > I am not a newbie (using Debian for 3 years now, programming with pico for > > 5), I prefer clean interfaces, and to remain outside of the jihad of > > editors. > > pico is clean the same way the microsoft windows interface is clean. reality > is you've become quite adept in pico, despite its lacking as a text editor. > rather than invest the energy to learn something more suited to the task > (programming in pico? argh!) you find it easier to continue with what you > know. > > which is fair enough, too. a lot of people do it. but i wouldn't call pico > 'clean' > > ;o) Well, I've entered the thread right now, but I wonder why nobody talked about emacs. I think it's simply great for everything. If you have to learn "one" editor, emacs is the right choice (sounds like a commercial, doesn't it ;-) Bye, Stefano -- *** Stefano Calza Istituto di Statistica Medica e Biometria Università degli Studi di Milano Via G. Venezian, 1 20133 Milano tel. +39 02/2361302, 02/70600908 fax 02/2362930
Re: Gnome or KDE2 ?
Tom Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >what would you suggest Gnome oder KDE2 ? > >It would be great if you also could comment why the one you suggest is >better =) > >thx > >Tom > > >-- >Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > It would probably be better to intall and try the two ones. If you don t have enough place on your hard disk, you will have to choose one of them. As far as I'm concerned KDE1.2 is necessary for me as I need kdevelop ( an Integrated Development tool IDE ) and gnome for tools such as gnotepad+ ( a good editor ). If you can, try the two ones. -- Do you do Linux? :) Get your FREE @linuxstart.com email address at: http://www.linuxstart.com
Perl installation problem
I suspect that there is a problem with the perl installation as packaged with Potato. I'm trying to install pilotmanager program (http://www.moshpit.org/pilotmgr/), and am getting the following error: Configuring PilotManager... You do not have the correct binary of the Tk module installed in either your PilotManager distribution or your perl installation. Please read README.porting for information about how to download and install this module. Error details: - Tk object version 800.015 does not match bootstrap parameter 800.014 \ at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 188. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 1. - I don't know very much about perl internals. How can I fight this? Thanks for any input, -- Arcady Genkin Don't read everything you believe.
Re:Re: File permissions for /dev/*
Hi everybody, this is just to say a big thank you to everybody who helped me repairing my device files. Everything works fine again now. Jan
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:45:34AM -0600, will trillich wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:57:55PM -0500, David Bellows wrote: > > The numbers in the second column are in hex. The proper way to specify > > hex for lilo would be (for you specifically): > > vga=0x0122 > > is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? > > or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected > that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' you can with framebuffer consoles, man fbset. not sure about the vga modes, i never use them since they are all unusable and unreadable [0] except for good ol 80x24 (which i actually like anyway). [0] on my hardware anyway, 17" monitor with matrox G400 -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpKHxqCu75qQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:45:34AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? > > or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected > that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' > fbset should do the job. But when I run fbset on my debian 2.2 box, it said: "open /dev/fb0: no such device" but I have: crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb1 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb2 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb3 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb4 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb5 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb6 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb7 Don't know what's wrong. you might have better luck.
Re: XFree 4.0.1
Moritz Schulte wrote: > Try http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/ I installed fine from here, however, when I tried to upgrade the fonts, things got weird. At that point, I was unable to start X and lots of dependency error. Eventually, I just downloaded the tgz's from xfree86.org and everything worked like a charm. Since I am new to Debian, my question is this: how badly have I gone and soiled the "purity" of my system? Since I'm still unfamiliar with making my own debs, I have installed a new kernel and a couple other programs, and now X. I would assume that when the stable X4.0.1 package is out I can install that and that will fix things? Is there an easier way? Despite the fact that I've "corrupted" my system, what else have I just done? Chris -- http://www.veteransradio.com
apt-get flexibility
Is it posible to organize apt-get and sources.list in such a way that I can see - and select from - what is available both on my potato cdroms and the woody ftp sites ? Most of the time I am quite happy with what the cd's offer, but sometimes I will prefer a newer version, I suppose. egbert -- Egbert Bouwman - Keizersgracht 197 II - 1016 DS Amsterdam - 020 6257991
Re: Re: Gnome or KDE2 ?
wmwaisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > It would probably be better to intall and try the two ones. > > If you don t have enough place on your hard disk, you will have to > choose one of them. > > As far as I'm concerned KDE1.2 is necessary for me as I need > kdevelop ( an Integrated Development tool IDE ) and gnome for tools > such as gnotepad+ ( a good editor ). > > If you can, try the two ones. > Right... Personally, until now I was preferring GNOME because of the strange licensing mix-up with QT library, but now that this stuff is GPL'ed, I checked it out once again and, well, KDE2 seems pretty good... Besides this, if You`re not wanting to run those two "huge" packages on your box, you might want to check out www.xfce.org to get the xfce desktop environment which (same as gimp and gnome) is gtk-based, more or less lightweight and pretty fast and (if needed) provides integration for GNOME apps... :))) Regards, Kristian [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: Special dev access for users @ the console?
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 02:05:44AM -0600, Michael Janssen (CS/MATH stud.) wrote: > > Hello debian ppl! > > I am a lab admin. I need to give access to the floppy (/dev/fd0), zip > drive (/dev/hdd), and sound (/dev/dsp) to the person logged in at the > console (x or tty). If this was my personal machine, I would just > put the users in the group console. Unforfunately, this cannot be the > case. I have around 6500 users, and they are all able to login to > these machines remotely. While I agree it would be a good practical > joke to start playing loud music in another room, it wouldn't be > prudent in a lab setting. I have similiar problems with the floppy > and the zip (ide floppy version).. these devices would be even worse > because another user could steal code from another (NOT GOOD!). why do you need to give out access to the floppy devices? if you add: /dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,nosuid,nodev,noauto,user 0 0 then users can mount floppies and exclusive access. there is a small race condition between when the user physically inserts the floppy and runs mount /floppy, but exploitation would be rather difficult. the only thing they would be unable to do is create filesystems on the floppy or do low level formats. but that should not be a problem most of the time. audio devices are a bit more tricky, not sure what i can tell you there. once you give someone access they can keep that access as long as they want, console or not. screen can be used to create a detached session maintaining group membership. (assuming you installed things correctly allowing you to set all user writable filesystems nosuid) if you go the redhat way and chown the devices on login your still screwed since the user can hold a file descriptor open maintaining access. in short you must either trust them to have access permanatly or not at all. > I was wondering if anyone had any solutions for me. I have thought of > two different solutions: > > 1) Use pam_console, compiled separately. I don't really want to do > this, because debian doesn't include the file for a reason: it's got a > gaping security hole, users can hold open file descriptors on devices > after they're not using a console (through screen, perhaps) and that > basically makes the changing users a moot point. don't use pam_console, it does not buy you any security for reasons above, and it includes /usr/bin/rootshellhelper giving users instant root shells whenever they want. (go look at bugtraq that lame package has a new root whole every week it seems like) pam_console will only REDUCE security not enhance it. > 2) Use pam_group, and add them to a group when they're logged in on > the console. This works on ttys, I've read, but not on xdm sessions. > It's important that it works in X because this is what most of our lab > users (and newbies to linux sometimes, yay!) use most of the time. > Forcing them to login to a tty isn't really desireable. are you sure it doesn't work with X? i have not checked into it recently... but again pam_group is not all that useful since it can be defeated by creating a setgid shell (unless you partitioned correctly and mount everything nosuid) or by a simple detached screen session. > My question is: Does anyone have any other solutions? Or can one of > my solutions be modified to negate my problems with the solution? for floppy devices, just don't give them access to the raw devices, i don't see any reason this won't work formatting disks is not that common of a need IMO. perhaps sudo can be configured to allow a console login to format the device? (im not sure if sudo allows for tty restrictions) for audio devices i don't know what to tell you there, other then write a daemon that has access to the sound devices and acts as a go between, but that would probably be non-trivial to implement. simplest solution: no sound access. (albeit not a popular suggestion) what linux needs is revoke() -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpdunRxnwvZX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 05:33:29PM +0800, ha shao wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:45:34AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? > > > > or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected > > that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' > > > > fbset should do the job. But when I run fbset on my debian 2.2 > box, it said: "open /dev/fb0: no such device" but I have: > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb0 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb1 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb2 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb3 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb4 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb5 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb6 > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb7 > > Don't know what's wrong. you might have better luck. are you really using a framebuffer? or just that vga text mode hack in lilo? no such device means there is no device, not no device FILE. `No such file or directory' is != `No such device' -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpP4Zr2ATNlK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree 4.0.1
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:43:52AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Moritz Schulte wrote: > > > Try http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/ > > I installed fine from here, however, when I tried to upgrade the fonts, > things got weird. At that point, I was unable to start X and lots of > dependency error. Eventually, I just downloaded the tgz's from > xfree86.org and everything worked like a charm. Since I am new to > Debian, my question is this: how badly have I gone and soiled the > "purity" of my system? Since I'm still unfamiliar with making my own if you installed into /usr/local like your supposed to your fine, if you just overwrote random stuff in /usr your hosed. > debs, I have installed a new kernel and a couple other programs, and now > X. I would assume that when the stable X4.0.1 package is out I can > install that and that will fix things? Is there an easier way? Despite > the fact that I've "corrupted" my system, what else have I just done? > Chris if you installed into /usr/local and did not damage /etc/X11 much you should be fine by installing the real debs from woody. if you blew away package manager owned files you will have a broken system at worst or a bunch of cruft at best. never ever install anything yourself unless its in /usr/local/ -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpmuHYlQXUCw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Which editor for programming?
Hello Stephan, If you want something more lightweight than Emacs, and at the same time something more easy to use than vim, you could check out jed. It does nice syntax highlighting, automatic indentation and has a quite intuitive interface (IMHO) with a ncurses-based menu. > I started programming in C and I would like to know whether there is an > editor which is especially good for writing and editing source code. At > the moment I am using vi at the command line. > Besides I would like to know where to start reading about using the > shellvariables, e.g. PATH . > > TIA > > Stephan
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:50:55AM -0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > fbset should do the job. But when I run fbset on my debian 2.2 > > box, it said: "open /dev/fb0: no such device" but I have: > > > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb0 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 32 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb1 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 64 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb2 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 96 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb3 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 128 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb4 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 160 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb5 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 192 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb6 > > crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 224 Jul 6 01:44 /dev/fb7 > > > > Don't know what's wrong. you might have better luck. > > are you really using a framebuffer? or just that vga text mode hack > in lilo? > > no such device means there is no device, not no device FILE. `No such > file or directory' is != `No such device' > Yes, you are right. Thanks
Debian 2.2 and Dell PowerEdge 2400
i'am using a Dell PowerEdge 2400 with two Adaptec SCSI cards AIC 7890/7880 (DD ATLAS/CDROM and a SEAGATE DDS4 STD 6401 LW). my problem is that i can't find a module for the DDS4 from Seagate. Can anyone help me ? thomas ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Pour dialoguer en direct avec vos amis, Yahoo! Messenger : http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: Sendmail account setup
You should consider using LDAP with Sendmail, check: http://www.sendmail.net/?feed=interviewlaird01 http://sendmail.net/?feed=donnellyldap01 http://sendmail.net/?feed=donnellydirtree regrads, jaume. > > Hello All, > > I have a question on Sendmail. I would like to give out email accounts but > > do not want to give them a debian account. All I want them to have access to > > is email. Can this be done? Now when I add a new email account I have to use > > "adduser" which creates a home directory. What are ISP's using? > > Thanks in advance for your help and time > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Jaume Teixi Administrador de Sistemes 6TEMS - Ducform, SA http://www.6tems.com
Setting up Voodoo3 under Debian/potato
Hello all I can't get my Voodoo3 (3500) running any 3d applications! I've successfully compiled the 3dfx.o poackage and created the /dev/3dfx file. I have also installed thze mesa3 - packages. When I try to get Quake3 running I get the error message "Could not open OpenGL Subsystem". Is there anybody out there having a Voodoo3-Card running (I did when I was using RedHat 'till last week:-( ). Any Idea what kind of configuration I have to do? Have I forgotten any packages ? Thanks for rescuing me joerg
Re: Gnome or KDE2 ?
Kristian Rink wrote: > wmwaisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > > > It would probably be better to intall and try the two ones. > > > > If you don t have enough place on your hard disk, you will have to > > choose one of them. > > > > As far as I'm concerned KDE1.2 is necessary for me as I need > > kdevelop ( an Integrated Development tool IDE ) and gnome for tools > > such as gnotepad+ ( a good editor ). > > > > If you can, try the two ones. > > > > Right... Personally, until now I was preferring GNOME because of the strange > licensing mix-up with QT library, but now that this stuff is GPL'ed, I > checked it out once again and, well, KDE2 seems pretty good... > > Besides this, if You`re not wanting to run those two "huge" packages on your > box, you might want to check out > > www.xfce.org > > to get the xfce desktop environment which (same as gimp and gnome) is > gtk-based, more or less lightweight and pretty fast and (if needed) provides > integration for GNOME apps... :))) > > Regards, > Kristian > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de > [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null Yes, xfce is small, and fast. I use only the apps from gnome-1.2 and kde-2, but the window-manager is xfce. cu armin
Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
Hi, I'm upgrading my video card and have read several online breakdowns of the assorted cards and linux. I've narrowed it down to three but the real requirement is will they work with Debian 2.2 as is and not with either special drivers or wait until XF 4.0x. Voodoo 3 3000 AGP Matrox Millenium 5400 32MB ATI Rage128 32MB The Voodoo and ATI cards were listed as generic in XF86Setup. Will that cause recognition problems? Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or close to it) crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. Thanks, Jonathan
Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
"Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > I'm upgrading my video card and have read several online breakdowns of the > assorted cards and linux. I've narrowed it down to three but the real > requirement is will they work with Debian 2.2 as is and not with either > special drivers or wait until XF 4.0x. > > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP Works fine with 2.2, as for what I found until now, since the most packages needed (glide) already are included in standard stock of potato, and they work fine with XF3.3.6 > Matrox Millenium 5400 32MB =G400? If yes, this one should do fine, as well, but You'll have to install utah-glx drivers (utah-glx.sourceforge.net) to get hardware-based glx support, but this is easy since the drivers are to be found as .deb files on the utah-glx site... > The Voodoo and ATI cards were listed as generic in XF86Setup. Will that > cause recognition problems? No problems, for what I know, for both cards. Any other experiences, anybody? :))) > Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or close to it) > crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. Basically, nvidia`s chipsets (at least for TNT2 I tried) also are supported by XF 3.3.6 and utah-glx... Besides this, after trying out for several times, I don't at all recommend running nvidia-based cards in XF 4.x for the following reasons: (a) NVIDIAs drivers for those cards (even while being fast) are obviously still *very* unreliable, which (at least with my TNT2 board) caused several severe crashes of the x-server (especially while running "gears" or other of those problems with -root option set, and while trying to switch to the text console and back to X again). (b) besides that, those drivers are binary-only and they seem to have some problems with certain 2.4.0-testx kernels (don`t know if they fixed by now). Installation seems to be difficult sometimes due to unresolved conflicts with installed MESA-version while using those drivers on systems which are not RedHat-based (because nvidia only are offering .rpm - packages and `generic` archives as .tar.gz ...). (c) nvidia still is not very cooperative in providing the developers of `open` driver systems with information, that's why utah-glx is still very much slower than their native drivers because it`s not possible for those to use DMA on that card. This is why I am tending to ask people to please DO NOT SUPPORT companies like nvidia and their attempt of bringing proprietary drivers to Linux... Thank You! Regards, Kristian ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
"Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > I'm upgrading my video card and have read several online breakdowns of the > assorted cards and linux. I've narrowed it down to three but the real > requirement is will they work with Debian 2.2 as is and not with either > special drivers or wait until XF 4.0x. > > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP Works fine with 2.2, as for what I found until now, since the most packages needed (glide) already are included in standard stock of potato, and they work fine with XF3.3.6 > Matrox Millenium 5400 32MB =G400? If yes, this one should do fine, as well, but You'll have to install utah-glx drivers (utah-glx.sourceforge.net) to get hardware-based glx support, but this is easy since the drivers are to be found as .deb files on the utah-glx site... > The Voodoo and ATI cards were listed as generic in XF86Setup. Will that > cause recognition problems? No problems, for what I know, for both cards. Any other experiences, anybody? :))) > Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or close to it) > crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. Basically, nvidia`s chipsets (at least for TNT2 I tried) also are supported by XF 3.3.6 and utah-glx... Besides this, after trying out for several times, I don't at all recommend running nvidia-based cards in XF 4.x for the following reasons: (a) NVIDIAs drivers for those cards (even while being fast) are obviously still *very* unreliable, which (at least with my TNT2 board) caused several severe crashes of the x-server (especially while running "gears" or other of those problems with -root option set, and while trying to switch to the text console and back to X again). (b) besides that, those drivers are binary-only and they seem to have some problems with certain 2.4.0-testx kernels (don`t know if they fixed by now). Installation seems to be difficult sometimes due to unresolved conflicts with installed MESA-version while using those drivers on systems which are not RedHat-based (because nvidia only are offering .rpm - packages and `generic` archives as .tar.gz ...). (c) nvidia still is not very cooperative in providing the developers of `open` driver systems with information, that's why utah-glx is still very much slower than their native drivers because it`s not possible for those to use DMA on that card. This is why I am tending to ask people to please DO NOT SUPPORT companies like nvidia and their attempt of bringing proprietary drivers to Linux... Thank You! Regards, Kristian ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
"Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > I'm upgrading my video card and have read several online breakdowns of the > assorted cards and linux. I've narrowed it down to three but the real > requirement is will they work with Debian 2.2 as is and not with either > special drivers or wait until XF 4.0x. > > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP Works fine with 2.2, as for what I found until now, since the most packages needed (glide) already are included in standard stock of potato, and they work fine with XF3.3.6 > Matrox Millenium 5400 32MB =G400? If yes, this one should do fine, as well, but You'll have to install utah-glx drivers (utah-glx.sourceforge.net) to get hardware-based glx support, but this is easy since the drivers are to be found as .deb files on the utah-glx site... > The Voodoo and ATI cards were listed as generic in XF86Setup. Will that > cause recognition problems? No problems, for what I know, for both cards. Any other experiences, anybody? :))) > Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or close to it) > crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. Basically, nvidia`s chipsets (at least for TNT2 I tried) also are supported by XF 3.3.6 and utah-glx... Besides this, after trying out for several times, I don't at all recommend running nvidia-based cards in XF 4.x for the following reasons: (a) NVIDIAs drivers for those cards (even while being fast) are obviously still *very* unreliable, which (at least with my TNT2 board) caused several severe crashes of the x-server (especially while running "gears" or other of those problems with -root option set, and while trying to switch to the text console and back to X again). (b) besides that, those drivers are binary-only and they seem to have some problems with certain 2.4.0-testx kernels (don`t know if they fixed by now). Installation seems to be difficult sometimes due to unresolved conflicts with installed MESA-version while using those drivers on systems which are not RedHat-based (because nvidia only are offering .rpm - packages and `generic` archives as .tar.gz ...). (c) nvidia still is not very cooperative in providing the developers of `open` driver systems with information, that's why utah-glx is still very much slower than their native drivers because it`s not possible for those to use DMA on that card. This is why I am tending to ask people to please DO NOT SUPPORT companies like nvidia and their attempt of bringing proprietary drivers to Linux... Thank You! Regards, Kristian ___ 1.000.000 DM gewinnen - kostenlos tippen - http://millionenklick.web.de [EMAIL PROTECTED], 8MB Speicher, Verschluesselung - http://freemail.web.de
Re: ISDN Dial In
> hello > > i just got my first debian cd's ever and everything worked fine yet. > but like every time i have problems setting up the ISDN connection (maybe > it's the most complicated task cause i can't get online help during the > configuration ;) > i installed the isdnutils package, the kernel modules for the isdn system and > the isdncard are up and running. > i executed isdnconfig and created the config files. > i changed the values for my localmsn, the remote msn and my username. > finally i created /etc/pap-secrets and added my username and password. > now when i try to connect, imon shows me online for about a second and then > disconnects. > in /var/log/messages everything i see is the same; that it disconnects > immidiatly after login. > so i think this is an authentication error. > unfortunatly the debian online book i know doesn't tell anything about > authentication it just says "read the documentation". > and the isdnutils documentation just says "you have to add an entry to > pap-secrets" well this is not much informative :( > does anyone in this list got his isdn dialin with athentification working and > could tell me what exactly i have to do (maybe i missed something)? > or can anyone give me hint how to find the error? > btw, my provider is t-online (germany). > Try to enable debugging, both in .etc.isdn/ipppd.ippp0 and in /etc/syslog.conf and try to inspect the logs afterwards. You might also post them in the list. I believe you should restart /etc/init.d/sysklogd after changing its config file. > - Daniel > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: whence "ping -w"?
On Thu, 02 Nov 2000 22:31:47 PST, Francois Gouget writes: > IIRC, most ping implementations send an 8 byte timestamp obtained >with gettimeofday as the payload of their ICMP echo request packets. >This payload is copied in the ICMP echo reply packets. So wwhen ping >receives an ICMP echo reply message that is addressed to itself >(matching icmp id), it just does another call to gettimeofday, substract >the timestamp that was returned, and print the RTT. > This way ping does not need to keep track of all the packets it sent >and thus does not need a timeout. It can even handle packets that come >back out of order. yep, but most ping implementations ignore packets coming in after a given time, most of the time you need to do a ping -v to see them (requires root privileges on some machines because it wants to put the interface in promiscous mode where applicable). hth, &rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: Can't install Helix Gnome
> I havn't been able to install Helix-Gnome in a while ... > (snip) Strange, I never had a probem with potato. Is this your sources.list line for helix? deb http://spidermonkey.helixcode.com/distributions/debian woody main -- I did not vote for the Austrian government Linux: The choice of a GNU generation. Visit http://www.gnu.org/
Printer & DOC's
Hi! I need to configure my printer (Epson Stylus Color 640) in Potato but I can't figure out howto do that, there's no doc's on that and not one word in 'Learning Debian GNU/Linux either, neither do I find the program 'xconfig' to get the right module (potato didn't want to install lp during the main installation process). So the queation is; how do I install and configure printer in Debian 2.2? Another question is; is there a friendly program for reading all the HOWTO's and FAQ's in a convenient manner? Thank's, Helgi Örn -- - *** Helgi Örn ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SuSE 7.0 * Debian/GNU * ** Caldera eDesktop 2.4** -
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:56:36AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: -|Hi Christopher! -| -|On Thu, 02 Nov 2000, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: -| -|> 9 0122 100x30 -| -|> BTW... I have tried all the modes and they all work for me. -|> I just want to automatically start in "mode=9". -| -|If you had read the docs carefully, you would have read somewhere, that -|this "0122" is hex but lilo does not accept hex values. -| -|vga=290 should work. -| yours, -| peter -| Thanks !!! That worked. Where did you find docu on this stuff? I must have tried "man" on everything I could think of. -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Current O/S: Debian 2.2 GNU/Linux
Re: Printer & DOC's
Helgi Örn wrote: > I need to configure my printer (Epson Stylus Color 640) in Potato but I > can't figure out howto do that, there's no doc's on that and not one > word in 'Learning Debian GNU/Linux either, neither do I find the program > 'xconfig' to get the right module (potato didn't want to install lp > during the main installation process). So the queation is; how do I > install and configure printer in Debian 2.2? Install the magicfilter package (magicfilter_1.2-39.deb). It has good support for most Epson StylusColor printers. Mike -- Mike Jones Unix System Administrator Office for National Statistics South Wales, UK For the latest data on the economy and society consult National Statistics at http://www.statistics.gov.uk ** Legal Disclaimer : Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily those of the Office for National Statistics **
Re: Which editor for programming?
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:54:17AM -0500, wmwaisse wrote: > For sure, Vi and Emacs are the standards, but Since I discvered > Kdevelop 1.2 ( standard with Kde ), I always use it , and I earn > much time using it. I think one of the reasons why I use Vim is because it's very easy to build on all the platforms that I work on. Kdevelop would be fine for my Linux box, but then I wouldn't have it on HPUX at work. I'd have to build all the base libraries for KDE, which is time consuming. With Vim, I have a graphical, language sensitive editor with tons of features (I seem to discover a new one each day), and I have it available on HPUX, Linux and *shudder* Windows. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html pgp0f8GrEiR0b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which editor for programming?
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 10:01:06AM +0100, Stefano Calza wrote: > > Well, I've entered the thread right now, but I wonder why nobody talked > about emacs. I think it's simply great for everything. If you have to > learn "one" editor, emacs is the right choice (sounds like a commercial, > doesn't it ;-) I tried Emacs for about 6 months, pouring through O'Reilly's book and learning it well. I hated the arthritic keybindings, but I managed because I liked a lot of the features. I tolerated the pigginess of it because I thought such poor performance was necessary. Then the broken Perl modes moved my code incorrectly yet again, and I killed the thing and went back to vanilla Vi, where it did what I told it to do. Then I found Vim. Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping ;-) I hate the split between Emacs and XEmacs, 'cause the configuration files aren't compatible. At least it's easy to find on Unix systems though, unless it's a bare install. And I'll admit, I miss ang-ftp. That's a cool feature. Anyway, if you work on a variety of systems, I would listen to this gentleman or me, and go with (X)Emacs or Vim, 'cause you'll find them available for everwhere you go, and they're both very powerful. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html pgpL1YX3eVlby.pgp Description: PGP signature
web browser
Hi I have recently installed Debian Linux as my first distribution of Linux. I cant find the web browser Netscape on the official cd's or any other web browser can any one tell me if there is a web browser on the cd's if not Netscape then what and how do i find it.Thanks jm
Re: apt && woody.
Peter Palfrader wrote: > Maybe apt should simply retry after all the other stuff got downloaded? Jason writes: > It can try forever, glibc always returns that :| I get that for at least one file almost every time I use apt-get. If I keep trying it eventually succeeds in getting everything. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
sed question
I'm trying to write a script and as part of it I need to change the "/" in a variable to a "." and then put it right back into another variable. I've tried using sed but can't seem to grip these regular expressions 8-(. Here's what I got so far: echo $variable_before | sed s///./ variable_after ...but that doesn't seem to work. I've tried every possible variant (well, not every one, otherwise it'd be working for me) and even explored awk's man page. Any suggestions (or the POA if you have it :-) Jesse POA(plain old answer) -- Got freedom? http://www.debian.org
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
Hi Christopher! On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Christopher W. Aiken wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:56:36AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > -|vga=290 should work. > > Thanks !!! That worked. Where did you find docu on this stuff? > I must have tried "man" on everything I could think of. /usr/src/linux/Documentation/svga.txt: [...] | 0x - Hexadecimal video mode ID (also displayed on the menu, see below | for exact meaning of the ID). Warning: rdev and LILO don't support | hexadecimal numbers -- you have to convert it to decimal manually. [...] so long yours, peter -- PGP encrypted messages preferred. http://www.palfrader.org/
Re: Mozilla M18 on potato (pentium100)
Hi, Pap Tibor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Another question: > > I would like to use java support with mozilla. I've got the sun java > plugin 1.2.2 on a CD. Can I install this into mozilla? I don't want to > download another plugin if it's not necessary. (My internet connection > through modem is quite expensive and slow.) If you have the java 1.2 installed, you can simply link the javaplugin.so to your mozilla's plugins directory. I use the following script for automate the process of updating the nightly and setting up the plugins as well. #!/bin/sh #This scripts automates the mozilla installation process #Written by Shao Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mozilla=mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz dir=`date --date=yesterday '+%Y-%m-%d'`-21-Mtrunk url=ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/nightly/$dir/$mozilla javaplugin=/usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/javaplugin.so mozplugin=$HOME/package/plugins/javaplugin.so cd $HOME; rm -f $mozilla; wget $url; if [ -f $HOME/$mozilla ]; then rm -rf $HOME/package; tar zxvf $mozilla; ln -s $javaplugin $mozplugin; exit 0; fi exit 1; Regards, Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Vim editor
I just installed the Vim editor but seem to be having some problems. When I type help it says: "Sorry, help file "/usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt" not found" I tried typing help version5 and it says: No tags file Sorry, no help for version5 Am I missing a configuration file? I installed the vim .deb package version 5.6.70. Any suggestions or pointers? Jesse -- Got freedom? http://www.debian.org
Re: apt: prebuilt package same as src pkg + build?
> > Hello, > > > I'm a new Debian user and have a problem with apt-cache and > dselect using the source package CDs: They don't know about the > source packages! I can use apt-get to fetch and build the source > once I know the package I want, followed by calling dpkg to > install it. > dselect will not tell you about src packages because it is designed to deal only with debs. It is a long goal of the Debian project to decide and implement a tool like dselect for src pacakges. As for apt, I believe it is a matter of configuration, although it might be that your CDs lack some essential files for it. Yet I never tried apt-get source SomePckage with s CD set so I might be wrong. > Since in theory source packages are just one step away from > prebuilt ones[1], I'd like apt to consider them equal. Except it > would have to build them before installing. > > Have I missed an argument to the programs, or something silly > like that? I'd much appreciate any help. > > Regards, > > Joonas > > [1] Especially true in Debian thanks to the great work by the > maintainers. > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Question about potato/woody
> I'm a potato user and I would like to know some things about it. > I use my computer at home just to work, but I would like to know if I should > upgrade to woody, because I would like to have the last packages of some > programs, and potato does not have the last version(stable or not), and It > really annoys me. > > So, any suggestions? > If you get annoyed by not having the latest version then you probably need to upgrade. But bear in mind that it is titled as unstable. Although past expreince shows that it is rather stable, it could get broken. For example, a couple of weeks ago a libc upgrade broke exim and for a couple of days I could not get or send e-mail. My suggestion is not to use it on a production machine unless one has to, and at least waiting to hear that everything is stable enough. > > Thanks, > > doppo > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: sed question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 08:10:48AM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: > I'm trying to write a script and as part of it I need to change the "/" in a > variable to a "." and then put it right back into another variable. I've > tried > using sed but can't seem to grip these regular expressions 8-(. Here's what I > got so far: > > echo $variable_before | sed s///./ variable_after > > ...but that doesn't seem to work. I've tried every possible variant (well, > not every one, otherwise it'd be working for me) and even explored awk's man > page. Any suggestions (or the POA if you have it :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ foo=usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ echo $foo usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ bar=$(echo $foo | sed -e 's/\//./g') [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ echo $bar usr.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ you can also use the same variable ie: [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ foo=usr/bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ foo=$(echo $foo | sed -e 's/\//./g') [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ echo $foo usr.bin [EMAIL PROTECTED] eb]$ one problem with your sed script, you need to escape the / -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpEJSoPRWuYA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: sed question
Jesse Goerz wrote:
>
> I'm trying to write a script and as part of it I need to change the "/" in a
> variable to a "." and then put it right back into another variable. I've
> tried
> using sed but can't seem to grip these regular expressions 8-(. Here's what I
> got so far:
>
> echo $variable_before | sed s///./ variable_after
Try:
variable_after=`echo $variable_before | sed 's/\//./' `
(you must escape the "/")
If you want to replace all the occurences of "/" add an 'g' :
variable_after=`echo $variable_before | sed 's/\//./g' `
You can do this also only with bash:
variable_after=${variable_before/\//.}
and for multiple occurences:
variable_after=${variable_before//\//.}
Andrei
Re: Help Warning: Second attempt for an answer
> Hi, > > Trying to post this again and see if I get any response this time. Got to > figure out a better subject heading I guess... > > Original Post: > > I've noticed with leaving X that I see in the X boot msgs the following: > > Warning: Ron = 43, Rloop = 10, Roff = 46 > > What is this and should I worry? I have the right timings in my XF86Setup > file for the monitor and it works fine. > Perhaps you should post the lines before and afterwards as well? The Warning is probably most cryptic to the rest of the list as well. Pure speculation: Do you have entries for StandbyTime, SuspendTime and OffTime in /etc/X11/XF86confug? > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: web browser
lynx (text only browser) is usually installed by default. Mozilla (open source incarnation of Netscape) is the graphical browser that will be on the disks. You can get .deb file for Netscape but you'll have to get it from the non-free packages from a download site. Chris On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, John-Mark wrote: > Hi I have recently installed Debian Linux as my first distribution of > Linux. I cant find the web browser Netscape on the official cd's or > any other web browser can any one tell me if there is a web browser on > the cd's if not Netscape then what and how do i find it.Thanks jm >
wmaker sound
this is off topic, but there's not much traffic on the wmaker list so I figured I'd ask you guys for help. I'm trying to get sound in my wmaker desktop. I have sound working for cd's (wmixer wmrack, etc..) but there are no .wav files in my ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Sounds$ directory. So when I run the soundprefs for wmaker nothing works. Where do I get the soundfiles? Or should I be looking in a different directory? thanks
Re: Q: Best partition breakdown one OS?
> I'm posting this again because I got a refusal first time, Debian mailbox > being full... > > Hi, > > Right now I have a dual boot system setup on a 5Gig drive. I gave W98SE > 2Gig, then set up Linux in the extended partitions with: > > /boot 15MB > /swap/100MB > / 2gig > /home 500MB > > The question I have is when I finally pull off Windows, how do I partition, > especially bearing in mind the present lilo's max hard disk size limits? Do > I set up /boot in the first partition then all the rest in the extended? > I believe you were reffering to the partition the boot sector is in and not to `lilo's max hard disk size limits'. I am not sure about the current issues with the partition the boot sector is in. These are mentioned in the lilo docs if I am not mistaken. In any case, some suggestions and info about HD partitioning can be found on www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install and on various HOWTOs of the LDP. > thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: finding dependencies
> > --Ere3gl7haSgyRdoj > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > My apologies if this is blindingly obvious, but what's the best way to > find out what packages are using a given package? If I want to yank some > libraries, and I need to know what that is going to break, for example? > > I really have to learn the inner workings of dpkg and friends. Installi= > ng > I'm find, removing I'm fine, but I don't know the advanced work yet.=20 > Not the best way at all but as a last resort you can order to remove the given package in dselect. It would then tell you what packages depend on it, or, actually, the first level of the dependency tree that is rooted at the given package. But be careful not to force dselct to take the remove action in order not to break your system. As for a safer tool to do it, possibly with a nice GUI interface, I believe that there is an on going debian project for that purpose. > Mike > > --=20 > Michael P. Soulier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount > of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX > PGP Public Key: http://www.storm.ca/~msoulier/personal.html > > --Ere3gl7haSgyRdoj > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE6AXlxKGqCc1vIvggRAr/vAJ4ixTtJTliGpOqaz6g4w+lYRBFNKwCgrxox > adB4dZPTSWeaZJWckZvHntc= > =6xDJ > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > --Ere3gl7haSgyRdoj-- > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: web browser
"John-Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi I have recently installed Debian Linux as my first distribution > of Linux. I cant find the web browser Netscape on the official cd's > or any other web browser can any one tell me if there is a web > browser on the cd's if not Netscape then what and how do i find > it. Debian consists only of Free Software, Netscape is not Free Software, so it's not part of Debian The official Debian distribution contains only main/ and contrib/, not non-free/. But, there's also this section "non-free", which you can find on many Debian mirrors. Netscape is there, so you can install it via the internet. Have a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list and 'man sources.list'. There you can configure, where APT should search for packages. Sure there are web browsers in Debian...mostly text based. There's also Mozilla, but a quiet old version (M14, AFAIK). If you want to try Mozilla, I recommend the latest release M18 or the current nightly builds.. moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: pppd connection ok but no IP information from ISP
> Debian users > > I am having intermitent luck connecting with my ISP. I know that my > chat script is ok, but sometimes after the pppd starts the serial > connection my isp does not give my my dynamic IP address. sometimes > it does and sometimes it doesn't. > > Q> is there a way to get the pppd to ask for the ip address > forcefully? at the moment the connection just waits, and cannot > configure ifconfig. > Are you sure that the IP is the problem and not a symptom since something earlier in the setup of the ppp connection has broken? One way to find out is to enable debugging, both in the ppp config files and in /etc/syslog.conf and then inspecting the log files again. > Tom > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
PCMCIA serial/modem problem
I am trying to use a modem PCMCIA card with a laptop. The card is registered and configured, but the chosen interrupt (IRQ 3) does not appear in /proc/interrupts; I think this is the reason why I cannot access the card. It is impossible to open it either for reading or for writing. I have checked the permissions on the device /dev/ttyS1 and checked that its major and minor numbers are correct. (This card has worked on this laptop in the past, though with a different kernel version.) Can anyone suggest what to do to make this work, please? kernel: 2.2.15 Card: SmartLink PCMCIA Fax modem from Archtek Telecom Socket 0: product info: "CIRRUS LOGIC 56K MODEM", "CL-MD56XX", "5.41" manfid: 0x014e, 0x0088 function: 2 (serial) rover:/home/olly# cardctl config Socket 0: Vcc 5.0V Vpp1 0.0V Vpp2 0.0V interface type is "memory and I/O" irq 3 [exclusive] [level] Speaker output is enabled function 0: config base 0x0100 option 0x60 status 0x08 ext 0x00 io 0x13f8-0x13ff [8bit] rover:/home/olly# setserial -a /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x13f8, IRQ: 3 Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0 closing_wait: 3000 Flags: spd_normal skip_test rover:/home/olly# cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0:7599348 XT-PIC timer 1: 4220 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 8: 1 XT-PIC rtc 12: 3692 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 13: 0 XT-PIC fpu 14: 308980 XT-PIC ide0 15: 27 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 rover:/home/olly# cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0070-007f : rtc 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0376-0376 : ide1 0378-037a : parport0 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(set) 13f8-13ff : serial_cs 4000-4007 : ide0 4008-400f : ide1 rover:/home/olly# cu -l ttyS1 cu: open (/dev/ttyS1): No such device cu: open (/dev/ttyS1): No such device cu: ttyS1: Line in use -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C "Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD; and the fruit of the womb is his reward."Psalms 127:3
Re: Vim editor
Jesse Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JG> I just installed the Vim editor but seem to be having some JG> problems. When I type help it says: JG> JG> "Sorry, help file "/usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt" not found" JG> JG> I tried typing help version5 and it says: JG> JG> No tags file JG> Sorry, no help for version5 JG> JG> Am I missing a configuration file? I installed the vim .deb JG> package version 5.6.70. Hmm. Did you install the vim-rt package, too? I think it contains a lot of the data like the help files that's the same regardless of which options vim itself is compiled with. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell
Re: Which editor for programming?
I like "ee." I know some people dismiss it, and I don't really do "programming" as such, but I have to write a lot of html pages, and it makes my life easier. Later, Colin Jason Stechschulte wrote: > Newbie. > > Jason Stechschulte > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: Brooks R. Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:35 AM > To: Stephan Kulka; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: Which editor for programming? > > Pico is the only way to go. No messy interfaces, just clean, > easy. > > Brooks > > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephan Kulka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 3:00 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Which editor for programming? > > > > > > I started programming in C and I would like to know whether > there is an > > editor which is especially good for writing and editing source > code. At > > the moment I am using vi at the command line. > > Besides I would like to know where to start reading about using > the > > shellvariables, e.g. PATH . > > > > TIA > > > > Stephan > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
Re: Printer & DOC's
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 13:45, Helgi Örn wrote: > I need to configure my printer (Epson Stylus Color 640) in Potato but I > can't figure out howto do that, there's no doc's on that and not one > word in 'Learning Debian GNU/Linux either, neither do I find the program > 'xconfig' to get the right module (potato didn't want to install lp > during the main installation process). So the queation is; how do I > install and configure printer in Debian 2.2? You'll need the parport and parport_pc (assuming i386) modules installed to install the lp module. Then, here are my notes from my potato install (YMMV): # apt-get install lpr magicfilter djtools # apt-get install gs-aladdin gsfonts a2ps enscript # magicfilterconfig --force (/dev/lp0 -- not /dev/lp1 which is the default) > Another question is; is there a friendly program for reading all the > HOWTO's and FAQ's in a convenient manner? Install apache or boa and use a browser: lynx http://localhost/doc/ Luck, Pann -- geek by nature, Linux by choice L I N U X .~. The Choice /V\ http://www.ourmanpann.com/linux/ of a GNU /( )\ Generation ^^-^^
RE: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
> From: Kristian Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Jonathan Gift" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 03.11.00: > > > I'm upgrading my video card... > > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP > > Matrox Millenium 5400 32MB > > =G400? If yes, this one should do fine, as well Both of these are solid cards, and with good Linux support. I got a chance to play with a Matrox G400 32MB about a month ago - I only had about a day, though. I couldn't seem to get the maximum speed out of the utah-glx driver in that time, but Quake III was, just barely, playable. The 2D quality was quite good, though. > No problems, for what I know, for both cards. Any other > experiences, anybody? :))) I got an ATI Rage Pro (Xpert 98) working with Debian without too much effort. Not the fastest card in the world but useful for some things. ATI has promised Radeon support, but I don't think it's here yet. Based on their track record I believe it will come, though. > > Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or > close to it) crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. Yup. I've got a TNT and I'm gradually getting support going for it in my Debian 2.2 installation. There are older, slower drivers for X 3.3.x, but for full speed you need 4.0. > I don't at all recommend > running nvidia-based cards in XF 4.x for the following reasons: > > (a) NVIDIAs drivers for those cards (even while being fast) > are obviously still *very* unreliable Their *first* drivers for 3.3.x have been very stable for me, albeit about half as fast as the Windows drivers on my TNT card. I don't know about 4.0.1, yet. > (c) nvidia still is not very cooperative in providing the developers > of `open` driver systems with information... This is why I am tending > to ask people to please DO NOT SUPPORT companies like nvidia and their > attempt of bringing proprietary drivers to Linux... Thank You! To be fair, it's not really Nvidia's fault, they licensed technology for their cards from other people and don't have the right to release the source code for driving that stuff. That being said, though, I probably won't buy an Nvidia card next time. I won't be upgrading until the middle of next year or so, and I hope by then the Radeon support will have come. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Many people would sooner die than think. In fact, they do." - Bertrand Russell
Re: libc6 header problems
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:43:46AM -0600, Pat Mahoney wrote: > In reply to myself (thanks to those who replied): > > /usr/include/string.h:37: parse error before `?' > > /usr/include/string.h:55: parse error before `?' > > A parse error seems like it should be an easy fix...too bad I'm > incompetent. But why is this happening at all? Obviously it is just > me or at least not most people (searching the mail archives turns up > nothing). This time, try this command line and tell me if it works to compile xmms. You have to do it to all the Makefiles in xmms. $ cp Makefile Makefile.bak; cat Makefile.bak | sed -e s%-I/usr/include%%g - > Makefile After you have gotten all the makefiles, then try to compile it. If this works, then you have an extraneous file in /usr/include that you need to get rid of. Good luck, Chris -- The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it hasn't tried to contact us. -- Bill Watterson
Re: web browser
Hi! I used the apt-get program to get the latest available Netscape from the Debian sites. First you have to configure the file sources.list in /etc/apt to point at the proper sites, then you run (with internet connection): apt-get install netscape and it will fetch it and install it in a beautiful way...:-) Helgi Örn > John-Mark wrote: > > Hi I have recently installed Debian Linux as my first distribution of > Linux. I cant find the web browser Netscape on the official cd's or > any other web browser can any one tell me if there is a web browser on > the cd's if not Netscape then what and how do i find it.Thanks jm -- - *** Helgi Örn ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SuSE 7.0 * Debian/GNU * ** Caldera eDesktop 2.4** -
Mac and DNS Problem
Hi, i've got a Mac with OS 9.0... in an TCP/IP LAN with about twenty nodes. I also have three DNS Severs. :) Now i got "unapproved updates" and "zone transfers AXFR" from that Mac. The TCP/IP conf at the Mac seems clean, and i didn't find any checkboxes to tell the mac that he schouldn't da those things. Has anybody here solved that problem? Any help ist apriciated. Thanks, ar -- [ampersand online agentur] [andreas rabus] [programmierung] theresienstraße 29 / IV 80333 münchen tel 0 89 - 28 67 72 - 27 fax 0 89 - 28 67 72 - 21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ampersand.de
Fwd: Re: ISDN Dial In
> > i just got my first debian cd's ever and everything worked fine yet. > > but like every time i have problems setting up the ISDN connection (maybe > > it's the most complicated task cause i can't get online help during the > > configuration ;) > > i installed the isdnutils package, the kernel modules for the isdn system > > and the isdncard are up and running. > > i executed isdnconfig and created the config files. > > i changed the values for my localmsn, the remote msn and my username. > > finally i created /etc/pap-secrets and added my username and password. > > now when i try to connect, imon shows me online for about a second and > > then disconnects. > > in /var/log/messages everything i see is the same; that it disconnects > > immidiatly after login. > > so i think this is an authentication error. > > unfortunatly the debian online book i know doesn't tell anything about > > authentication it just says "read the documentation". > > and the isdnutils documentation just says "you have to add an entry to > > pap-secrets" well this is not much informative :( > > does anyone in this list got his isdn dialin with athentification working > > and could tell me what exactly i have to do (maybe i missed something)? > > or can anyone give me hint how to find the error? > > btw, my provider is t-online (germany). > > Try to enable debugging, both in .etc.isdn/ipppd.ippp0 and in > /etc/syslog.conf and try to inspect the logs afterwards. You might also > post them in the list. I believe you should restart /etc/init.d/sysklogd > after changing its config file. ok, i enabled debugging. in /var/log/messages i have the following entry when i start isdnutils: Nov 3 15:14:33 ranger ipppd: info: no PAP secret entry for this user! my pap-secrets file looks like this (i backupped the old one, cause i found it too complicated, btw, is "i found it too complicated" a valid english sentence?): "000124325234#543235436524#0001"* 23425432 of course i changed the values. in ipppd.ippp0 i changed only a value in the auth section: # AUTHENTICATION name "000124325234#543235436524#0001"# set local name for auth XXX_ #user X # set name for auth with peer; default is value for name #usehostname# use hostname for auth #remotename X # set remote name for auth #noauth # (dont) require peer (the other) to auth #require-pap# allow only pap authentication (dialin only) #require-chap # allow only chap authentication (dialin only) #login # use system password database for pap #papcrypt # pap passwords are encrypted any ideas what's going wrong? ---
Re: Mac and DNS Problem
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Andreas Rabus wrote: > >Hi, > >i've got a Mac with OS 9.0... in an TCP/IP LAN with about twenty nodes. >I also have three DNS Severs. :) > >Now i got "unapproved updates" and "zone transfers AXFR" from that Mac. >The TCP/IP conf at the Mac seems clean, and i didn't find any checkboxes to >tell the mac that he schouldn't da those things. > >Has anybody here solved that problem? >Any help ist apriciated. > >Thanks, > > ar I have a similar problem with my roommate's Win2k box. (*hiss* *hiss* *kill*) I get lots of entries like this in my syslog: ---begin--- Nov 3 00:31:10 Wyvern named[401]: unapproved update from [192.168.0.4].4725 for localdomain Nov 3 00:31:10 Wyvern named[401]: unapproved update from [192.168.0.4].4731 for 0.168.192.in-addr.arpa ---end--- ..where 192.168.0.4 is the Win2k box. [Wyvern is actually a RH62 box, but hey. I'm working on it. =] I'd be interested in knowing the cause. Cheers, Dave -- ,-.|| David McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> oo||| Web: http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~dwm99 ,\/ \ || (( (_) || Computing Support Group, Dept. of Computing, (\--|7 || Imperial College, London
Re: Presentation software
StarOffice perhaps? I installed it on my potato and it runs very well so far. Helgi Örn "Thomas R. Shannon" wrote: > > I'm looking for a graphics presentation progam similar to Power Point. > It has to be able to work in a full-screen slide mode and be able too > insert eps graphics files. The ability to directly insert wmf files > would certainly be a plus. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > Tom > -- > Quote of the day for November 3rd, 2000 > The marvelous richness of human experience would lose something of > rewarding joy if there were no limitations to overcome. The hilltop > hour would not be half so wonderful if there were no dark valleys > to traverse. > - Helen Keller > > ___ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list -- - *** Helgi Örn ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SuSE 7.0 * Debian/GNU * ** Caldera eDesktop 2.4** -
Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
Obviously "Ingles, Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thinks that: > Yup. I've got a TNT and I'm gradually getting support going for it > in my Debian 2.2 installation. There are older, slower drivers for X > 3.3.x, but for full speed you need 4.0. > Yeah, that's *obviously* (believing what the utah-glx guys write at their site) due to those strange strategy not to give away the board specifications so the utah-glx in 3.3.6 is without DMA but the nv 4.0 drivers are, so it's obvious that they're a little faster (besides that, the 4.0 drivers consist of libgl same as of a NVdriver kernel-loadable module -binary only, of course- which *obviously* seems to do something similar to what DRI does for other boards). > Their *first* drivers for 3.3.x have been very stable for me, albeit > about half as fast as the Windows drivers on my TNT card. I don't > know about 4.0.1, yet. I don't know if it's a problem about XF4.0.1 or about nv drivers, but, my $0.02, they could be more stable... that (and the licensing thing... :))) ) is merely the reason I am still prefering the slower driver stuff for 3.3.6 :)) > To be fair, it's not really Nvidia's fault, they licensed technology > for their cards from other people and don't have the right to release > the source code for driving that stuff. Hmm, okay, but *seems* (as far as I know) their first driver releases were open-source, am I right? Does anybody know why it changed? Legal issues? Regards, have a nice weekend guys! :) Kristian -- -- "And the things that we fear are the weapons to be used against us." (Rush) Kristian Rink mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] fax : ++49 / 180 5052 5560 8162 =>encrypted mail welcome. contact me for pgp key. --
LAN traffic
Hi all. I have a masquerading linux boxx running between Internet and my Internal LAN. I want to know the load traffic for a given host of my LAN and the bandwidth I'm getting from my provider. Which tool can do It? PD: sorry again for my english! -- :%s/Micros~1/GNU\/Linux/g^M :wq!
Re: Question about potato/woody
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:34:32PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > > I'm a potato user and I would like to know some things about it. > > I use my computer at home just to work, but I would like to know if I should > > upgrade to woody, because I would like to have the last packages of some > > programs, and potato does not have the last version(stable or not), and It > > really annoys me. > > > > So, any suggestions? > > > > > If you get annoyed by not having the latest version then you probably need to > upgrade. > But bear in mind that it is titled as unstable. Although past expreince shows > that it is rather stable, it could get broken. For example, a couple of weeks > ago a libc upgrade broke exim and for a couple of days I could not get or > send > e-mail. > > My suggestion is not to use it on a production machine unless one has to, and > at least waiting to hear that everything is stable enough. If one really wants newer packages (or packages only available in woody), often (not always) it is possible to build a potato package from the woody source: 1. Add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free 2. apt-get update 3. apt-get -b source Occasionally this breaks because of versioned dependencies, etc., but I've had pretty good success adding new packages to a potato system. If you want the latest libc, etc., you are certainly better off upgrading to woody. At least the latest libc6 upgrade a few days ago didn't break anything. Bob
Re: Upgrading video card: Best of these three?
There are those who would have you believe that Kristian Rink wrote: > > > Any other sugestions appreciated. I left off the NVIDIA 5or close to it) > > crds because the GeForce2 seem to prefer XF 4.0x. That is true. > > Basically, nvidia`s chipsets (at least for TNT2 I tried) also are >supported by XF 3.3.6 and utah-glx... Besides this, after trying out >for several times, I don't at all recommend running nvidia-based cards >in XF 4.x for the following reasons: > > (a) NVIDIAs drivers for those cards (even while being fast) are >obviously still *very* unreliable, which (at least with my TNT2 board) >caused several severe crashes of the x-server (especially while >running "gears" or other of those problems with -root option set, and >while trying to switch to the text console and back to X again). I've used NVidia's drives with both TNT2 and GeForce 2 cards and haven't found this at all. In fact, on my desktop system at home I have more problems with the Win2000 drivers than the Linux ones. Your problems could be a hardware issue; there are many older (i.e. more than 18 months or so) motherboards that don't supply enough power to the AGP port and this can cause problems with NVidia's cards. However, it is true that they are beta drivers and if you require 100% stability you shouldn't use them (of course, you shouldn't be playing Quake either ;-). > (b) besides that, those drivers are binary-only and they seem to >have some problems with certain 2.4.0-testx kernels (don`t know if >they fixed by now). Installation seems to be difficult sometimes due >to unresolved conflicts with installed MESA-version while using those >drivers on systems which are not RedHat-based (because nvidia only are >offering .rpm - packages and `generic` archives as .tar.gz ...). The binary module is a problem and does force users to rely on NVidia keeping up to date on kernel developments. Of course both the drivers and the 2.4 kernel are in beta, and combining beta products often seems to multiply problems. Once again, if stability is important, then don't use 2.4. I haven't found installation difficult. The readmes contain very specific and complete instructions for installing the drivers. The only problem I've run in to was a system that was missing a directory (I don't remember which) and the install scripts just assumed that it existed. The error messages made it quite obvious what went wrong and it was easy enough to fix. > (c) nvidia still is not very cooperative in providing the developers >of `open` driver systems with information, that's why utah-glx is >still very much slower than their native drivers because it`s not >possible for those to use DMA on that card. This is why I am tending >to ask people to please DO NOT SUPPORT companies like nvidia and their >attempt of bringing proprietary drivers to Linux... Thank You! This is a good point. However, since they make good hardware I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for now that their current open-source efforts are in transition and that they are working in good faith to resolve any licensing issues or other problems that are preventing them from releasing fully open drivers. A year from now I'll probably feel differently. The truth is that right now you don't have many options. ATI cards don't even compare in terms of 3D performance (with the possible exception of the Radeon, but IIRC it's not supported by the Linux drivers yet), and Matrox' and 3dfx' cards will end up costing much more for a similar level (and ATI is on my sh!t list until I can get hardware OpenGL support on my laptop; llxdoom is OK, but I want Quake 3, dammit ;-). Without good drivers, there will be very few games. Without games, the number of Linux users will be limited, and there will never be a reason for video hardware manufacturers to go out of their way to support open source or free software.
Re: pppd connection ok but no IP information from ISP
Thanks for answering. I find the pppd options very confusing to understand. Anyway I think I have the solution. I reset the pppd option "connect-delay" to 2 seconds, and this waits longer before asking the isp for ip allocatioon. the default must have been too short previously. Tom On 03 2:24 pm, Shaul Karl wrote: > > Debian users > > > > I am having intermitent luck connecting with my ISP. I know that > > my chat script is ok, but sometimes after the pppd starts the > > serial connection my isp does not give my my dynamic IP address. > > sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. > > > > Q> is there a way to get the pppd to ask for the ip address > > forcefully? at the moment the connection just waits, and cannot > > configure ifconfig. > > Are you sure that the IP is the problem and not a symptom since > something earlier in the setup of the ppp connection has broken? > One way to find out is to enable debugging, both in the ppp config > files and in /etc/syslog.conf and then inspecting the log files > again. > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
ISDN
hi, how do i configure isdn on debian? i live in Munich, Germany and i have a T-online account with Deutsche Telekom. is there a GUI for gnome or kde specific for isdn? -gnana
Opera for Linux
Been on this list for the last few months. Never noticed anything posted on Opera web browser for Linux. I have a triple OS system (Win98, deb and slack) I am in the process of an upgrade from slink to potato and Slack 7.1. I have several programs, inclusive of Netscape, which run from /opt dir, so that they are shared between the two Linux distros. I usually unpack static binary tarballs for such programs downloaded directly from their parent sites. My present Netscape was downloaded over a year ago (ver 4.51), and has subserved its purpose (given the glitches of running on 32mb RAM) and some of the other problems posted on this list. Iam looking for something lightweight and less resource hungry, in the process of my upgrade. Yes, mozilla is a contender, but would like to keep my options open. Opera is also currently available (though not Open Source or GPL). Need first hand info on Opera for Linux, from anybody who is currently using it or has tried it out. There are some .debs on the Opera site as well, but I don't have a clue regarding its popularity in the debian world. Never used it myself, so any kind of info like resource utilisation, speed, customisation, java support, plug-in support, glitches etc would be welcome. Thanks. USM Bish
Re: Mac and DNS Problem
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 03:54:51PM +0100, Andreas Rabus wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> i've got a Mac with OS 9.0... in an TCP/IP LAN with about twenty nodes.
> I also have three DNS Severs. :)
>
> Now i got "unapproved updates" and "zone transfers AXFR" from that Mac.
> The TCP/IP conf at the Mac seems clean, and i didn't find any checkboxes to
> tell the mac that he schouldn't da those things.
>
> Has anybody here solved that problem?
> Any help ist apriciated.
i've got mac os 8.1 with mactcp 1.3 and open transport ...
tcp/ip control panel config is
configure : manually
ip addr: 192.168.1.100
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
router addr: 192.168.1.1 <- debian box, connected to the wwweb
name server: 192.168.1.1
on debian/potato, i've got
/etc/bind/named.conf
options {
forward first;
forwarders {
208.33.88.5;
208.33.88.4;
};
allow-transfer {
127.0.0.1;
# debian can peek at its own zone, of course
192.168.1.0/24;
# any cpu on the local net can see the whole
zone
<...my isp/dns servers also...>
# my dns servers need update/transfer access
};
};
probably what you lack is the allow-transfer portion,
if your debian box is acting as your local 192.168.*.*
dns server...
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Re: Vim editor
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, David Z. Maze wrote: > Jesse Goerz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > JG> I just installed the Vim editor but seem to be having some > JG> problems. When I type help it says: > JG> > JG> "Sorry, help file "/usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt" not found" > JG> > JG> I tried typing help version5 and it says: > JG> > JG> No tags file > JG> Sorry, no help for version5 > JG> > JG> Am I missing a configuration file? I installed the vim .deb > JG> package version 5.6.70. > > Hmm. Did you install the vim-rt package, too? I think it contains a > lot of the data like the help files that's the same regardless of > which options vim itself is compiled with. That was it. Thank you! Jesse > > -- > David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/ > "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." > -- Abra Mitchell > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Got freedom? http://www.debian.org
Mozilla M18 and Java
Has anyone succesfully downloaded the jre.xpi from netscape with Mozilla M18? Loads the Java 2.0 Plug-in window and shows two buttons, Java for Windows and Java for Linux though if I click on the Linux one it does nothing. I downloaded the jre.xpi manually but I haven't the slighest idea what to do with it. Thanks and sorry for the somewhat OT question, Adam
Re: Opera for Linux
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:36:11 +051800, USM Bish said: > Been on this list for the last few months. Never > noticed anything posted on Opera web browser for > Linux. > > I have a triple OS system (Win98, deb and slack) > I am in the process of an upgrade from slink to > potato and Slack 7.1. I have several programs, > inclusive of Netscape, which run from /opt dir, > so that they are shared between the two Linux > distros. I usually unpack static binary tarballs > for such programs downloaded directly from their > parent sites. > > My present Netscape was downloaded over a year > ago (ver 4.51), and has subserved its purpose > (given the glitches of running on 32mb RAM) and > some of the other problems posted on this list. > Iam looking for something lightweight and less > resource hungry, in the process of my upgrade. > > Yes, mozilla is a contender, but would like to > keep my options open. Opera is also currently > available (though not Open Source or GPL). Need > first hand info on Opera for Linux, from anybody > who is currently using it or has tried it out. > > There are some .debs on the Opera site as well, > but I don't have a clue regarding its popularity > in the debian world. > > Never used it myself, so any kind of info like > resource utilisation, speed, customisation, java > support, plug-in support, glitches etc would be > welcome. I d/l the opera-static beta2 .deb 3 days ago and it installed no problem on my potato system. Comes with a free 30 day trial. Have used it a little and it seems quite usable, no crashes yet. -- gEEk||dOOd^Deb+iaN&&XFce$aaZZ goes(-_-)
Re: Printer & DOC's
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 06:39:20AM -0800, Pann McCuaig wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 13:45, Helgi Örn wrote: > > > Another question is; is there a friendly program for reading all the > > HOWTO's and FAQ's in a convenient manner? > > Install apache or boa and use a browser: > > lynx http://localhost/doc/ > > Luck, > Pann > -- With apache installed, dwww is another option where not only the /usr/doc, but also man and info pages can be viewed. USM Bish
Re: web browser
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:15:33PM -, John-Mark wrote: > Hi I have recently installed Debian Linux as my first > distribution of Linux. I cant find the web browser Netscape on > the official cd's or any other web browser can any one tell me > if there is a web browser on the cd's if not Netscape then > what and how do i find it.Thanks jm apt-setup # as root, configure sources.list file via q & a instead of # having to worry and panic about misunderstanding the # obfuscated /etc/apt/sources.list conundrum then apt-get update # make sure your package list is current apt-get upgrade # update installed packages to most recent incarnations then apt-get install # download, configure, install a package or two or three for example apt-get install mozilla chimera arena gzilla links now if we can figure out what the www-browser package does... (packages.debian.org/www-browser shows no matches; apt-cache show www-browser shows nothing; apt-cache showpkg www-browser shows lots of reverse-depends...?) -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: sed question
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Andrei Pelinescu - Onciul wrote:
> Jesse Goerz wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to write a script and as part of it I need to change the "/" in a
> > variable to a "." and then put it right back into another variable. I've
> > tried
> > using sed but can't seem to grip these regular expressions 8-(. Here's
> > what I
> > got so far:
> >
> > echo $variable_before | sed s///./ variable_after
>
>
> Try:
>
> variable_after=`echo $variable_before | sed 's/\//./' `
> (you must escape the "/")
This was exactly what I needed. Thank you!
> If you want to replace all the occurences of "/" add an 'g' :
>
> variable_after=`echo $variable_before | sed 's/\//./g' `
>
>
> You can do this also only with bash:
>
> variable_after=${variable_before/\//.}
>
> and for multiple occurences:
>
> variable_after=${variable_before//\//.}
>
>
> Andrei
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Re: dead hoarse, crawling away.
Colin Watson wrote: > > Helgi =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D6rn?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >guran remberg wrote: > >> I have just read an article by a chap named Kurt Seifrieds, which was > >> mainly about security on Debian. I was alarmed and have decided to > >> switch to Red Hat as many experts advises can be used to secure it. > > > >Why not give us a link to this 'article'? > > It was well-publicized around the time potato was released; you should > be able to find it if you have a look back in the archives. A look > through the archives will also reveal the large number of factual > inaccuracies, misunderstandings, and just plain bias that that same > article contained. > > I believe some of the worse inaccuracies - like the author not having > bothered to read changelogs to find out whether the security holes he > believed were present had actually been closed - have been fixed in more > recent revisions of the article. > Yes, as I recall, his essential misunderstanding was that he didn't know that security fixes were "backported"; i.e., incorporated in the Debian source without upgrading to a later version of the program in question. I.e., he'd notice that Debian had not upgraded to version 1.2 of foobard, which closed a security hole, when in reality the Debian maintainer had patched foobard 1.1 to close the hole, and that was reflected in the changelogs, which he hadn't realized he needed to look at. An understandable *initial* impression, but he shouldn't have released the article without asking some Debian-knowledgeable person about the issue. This whole issue accounts for this from "remberg": "...your proprietary way of ... down-patching found bugs instead of upgrading" Which made more sense than anything else he wrote. Personally, I'd rather have the security patch backported than have to deal with a whole new version of something that hadn't been integration-tested. And I think I'm not alone...
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unstable ==? woody
Can I change my /etc/apt/sources.list from: deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free to deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free and it will be the same for now, but after the next release, I will then be in stable, instead of always on unstable? Thanks, Gregory Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (641)472-1125Fax: -1103
New user rant..urr, questions.
** WARNING ** I TYPE A LOT! DEAL WITH IT!! --+ I'm an experienced computer user, and have been looking at Linux closer and closer over the last few years. On a couple of occaisions I have attempted to install various flavours of Linux with.. umm.. "classic" results. You see, I'm cursed.. for me, software breaks in the strangest ways. Trust me. If you think it happens only to you, yes, it's documentable and exists in others. There is no cure. Anyways, after a horrible experience with Mandrake (it's looks good but tastes bad), I've decided on Debian because: - kernal-independance (why base the distrib on someone else's work?) - fair popularity (tough to guage since I haven't looked for Debian links yet, but there are some commercial packages based on Debian, so that's a positive guage) - quality software install/uninstall function (I'm entirely anal about this, yes I've heard mandrake has a good package handler.. but.. umm, when the os doesn't actually install.. who cares.) - various other reasons amounting to a good fuzzy feeling about this one. =) --+ Anyhow. I would like some user help. I need a set of links pointing towards user stories on Debian, as well as various other user pages. There are no links on http://www.debian.org and I couldn't find a webring with a couple of quick searches. --+ I would like to document my experiences with Debian, essay-style, to contribute to the efforts. My gift of finding problems with software will kick in.. I'll take notes and review the software so hopefully everything will be reproducable. IF Debian manages to miraculously survive the ordeal, I will have an archive filled with screenshots, doodles and essays describing how it can be made even better. But that's for later. Sy, a.k.a. The Racksasha You've never heard of me. If you have, yes.. I've been under a rock. =) Background information on the author follows: To no avail, I have screwed with: +--+ DOS - although mostly unsupported now, still way more powerful than windows and I know it inside out (and then some). I'll be heading back to this since I'm getting an HP 200lx (modified, of course). I'm going out of my way to get a 286 "laptop" (call it a portable, it's huge).. I'm going retro. +--+ Win3.x - I screwed with this to the point of considering releasing 3.11b (non workgroups) by documenting the modification of an upgraded 3.1.. the project got frozen indefinitely and now it's years later. +--+ Win95 - ooh, pretty. I can play games.. wait a sec, I could play games on my old 486, and now I need a pentium to play win95 games.. why did I want this OS again? games? I used to be learning programming.. hmm.. +--+ Many-year trek back into the c64 resulting in rising popularity then a plummetting death (oops). I still love the beast.. Hell, I got a HardSID and play c64 tunes still.. but I don't emulate it and haven't looked back. +--+ Win98 - Win95 on crack +--+ WinNT - tell me why I need this again? / see previous comment. +--+ Yggdrasil's Linux - from a book. The book was a nice read, the distrib didn't actually install (missing file(s)). The CDs were in perfect condition. I can pronnounce the name, but I'm not sure if I can spell it. +--+ -- Around this time I researched most Linux distribs, and read everything everywhere.. I still couldn't understand why these people didn't fix DOS and use that instead.. I couldn't even see a spreadsheet program for linux, letalone text-graphics ala the c64 textmode. All this to procrastinate over learning to program.. damn, I should have stayed with the c64, cause I was doing it there.. stupid internet. =/ +--+ RedHad 5.who_cares - Nice, big book. I bought the biggest, most popular, most up to date and therefore most expensive book. I found out that somehow I already know most of the content (go figure). The install didn't work, missing files.. hmm. Once again, perfect CDs and no luck. +--+ -- Enter a cablemodem, toss to the winds all free time. =) +--+ BeOS - It doesn't go, not with a wiz beos games tester helping me install. Later efforts with the free download (nice idea, nice when it boots) resulted in a horrifically slow system.. hrmph +--+ Mandrake - Great website, forking fantastic website. You have to pay for support though.. but I checked it out anyways. Awesome install, I knew it inside-out from the website demos. It autodetects everything perfectly, It just _does_not_work_.. yet another sad, sad installer which can't find it's own files. And so I'm left here. Don't let me down. Rack. Website to come.. maybe if crosswinds (http://www.crosswinds.net) gets their act together so I can update.. hrm. Anyone want to host me? =)
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:33:21AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:45:34AM -0600, will trillich wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:57:55PM -0500, David Bellows wrote: > > > The numbers in the second column are in hex. The proper way to specify > > > hex for lilo would be (for you specifically): > > > vga=0x0122 > > > > is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? > > > > or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected > > that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' > > you can with framebuffer consoles, man fbset. % man fbset fbset(8) Linux frame buffer utilsfbset(8) NAME fbset - show and modify frame buffer device settings SYNOPSIS fbset [options] [mode] DESCRIPTION This documentation is out of date!! eh? out of date? -- and, question: at what point in a newbie's travails with linux would he encounter the concept that video modes are controlled through gizmos entitled 'frame buffers'? check this out: % apropos monitor rpc.statd (8)- NSM status monitor sniffit (8) - packet sniffer and monitoring tool statd (8)- NSM status monitor % apropos resolution resolution: nothing appropriate. % apropos display DBI::Format (3pm)- A package for displaying result tables Data::ShowTable (3pm) - routines to display tabular data in several formats. DBI::Format (3pm)- A package for displaying result tables cal (1) - displays a calendar echo (1) - display a line of text free (1) - Display amount of free and used memory in the system gprof (1)- display call graph profile data ksyms (8)- display exported kernel symbols. ldaptemplates.conf (5) - configuration file for LDAP display template routines look (1) - display lines beginning with a given string mdir (1) - display an MSDOS directory TQ mdu (1) - display the amount of space occupied by an MSDOS directory TQ modinfo (8) - display information about a kernel module mtoolstest (1) - tests and displays the configuration TQ mtype (1)- display contents of an MSDOS file TQ netstat (8) - Display network connections, routing tables, interface statistics, masquerade connections, netlink messages, and multicast memberships objdump (1) - display information from object files. pad (3ncurses) - create and display curses pads pooltype (1) - display a WEB pool file pstree (1) - display a tree of processes readlink (1) - display target of symbolic link on standard output ref-elvis (1)- Display a C function header showcfont (1)- displays all characters in the current screen-font. top (1) - display top CPU processes whatis (1) - display manual page descriptions whiptail (1) - display dialog boxes from shell scripts xferstats (8)- displays FTP usage statistics xferstats.wu-ftpd (8) - displays FTP usage statistics Xsecurity (3x) - X display access control gxditview (1x) - display gtroff output files % apropos vga consolechars (8) - load EGA/VGA console screen font, screen-font map, and/or application-charset map. % apropos console con2fbmap (8)- hows and set mapping between consoles and framebuffer devices. console (4) - console terminal and virtual consoles console_codes (4)- Linux console escape and control sequences console_ioctl (4)- ioctl's for console terminal and virtual consoles console_ioctls (4) - ioctl's for console terminal and virtual consoles consolechars (8) - load EGA/VGA console screen font, screen-font map, and/or application-charset map. dselect (8) - console Debian package handling frontend fgconsole (1)- print the number of the active VT. gpm (8) - a cut and paste utility and mouse server for virtual consoles psfaddtable (1) - add a Unicode character table to a console font psfgettable (1) - extract the embedded Unicode character table from a console font psfstriptable (1)- remove the embedded Unicode character table from a console font resizecons (8) - change kernel idea of the console size syslog (2) - read and/or clear kernel message ring buffer; set console_loglevel unicode_start (1)- put the console in Unicode mode. unicode_stop (1) - put the console out of unicode mode (ie. in 8-bit mode). didja see it? it actually showed up! even a newbie could... NOT! -- # con2fbmap /dev/console open /dev/fb0: No such device # fbset /dev/console open /dev/fb0: No such device so, here's the next (inevitable) question: when /dev/fb* doesn't exist, what now? successive question (if i ever get to this point): /etc/fb.modes indicates pixels, as in 640x480 and 1600x1200; how do you map those to, say, 132 console characters across and 32 lines down? -- There are
Re: ISDN
Gnanasekaran Thoppae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > how do i configure isdn on debian? Install the package isdnutils and have a look at /usr/share/doc/isdnutils/HOWTO.isdnutils.gz. It's really easy, just let isdnconfig create the template config files for you end configure them. > i live in Munich, Germany and i have a T-online account with > Deutsche Telekom. Oh, the Telekom uses very long, strange and difficult user names for the authentication. It consists of a lot of numbers...your number, this number, a '#' and that mixed. ;) I can't tell you... if you can't information on the scheme of the user name, try to reach the support. ;) moritz -- /* Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * http://hp9001.fh-bielefeld.de/~moritz/ * PGP-Key available, encrypted Mail is welcome. */
Re: XFree 4.0.1
ethan, it's been my experience that some tarballs don't respect where you want to locate them in the sense that they spew binaries, links and libraries wherever they please. i've seen many games install themselves in /usr/local, like i told them to, and then just push their libraries wherever they please. i haven't installed X. truth be told, i'm a bit scared to. but i would imagine that the respectible folk at xfree86 would respect requests for putting their package where the user pleases. pete > On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:43:52AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > > Moritz Schulte wrote: > > > > > Try http://samosa.debian.org/~branden/ > > > > I installed fine from here, however, when I tried to upgrade the fonts, > > things got weird. At that point, I was unable to start X and lots of > > dependency error. Eventually, I just downloaded the tgz's from > > xfree86.org and everything worked like a charm. Since I am new to > > Debian, my question is this: how badly have I gone and soiled the > > "purity" of my system? Since I'm still unfamiliar with making my own > > if you installed into /usr/local like your supposed to your fine, if > you just overwrote random stuff in /usr your hosed. > > > debs, I have installed a new kernel and a couple other programs, and now > > X. I would assume that when the stable X4.0.1 package is out I can > > install that and that will fix things? Is there an easier way? Despite > > the fact that I've "corrupted" my system, what else have I just done? > > Chris > > if you installed into /usr/local and did not damage /etc/X11 much you > should be fine by installing the real debs from woody. if you blew > away package manager owned files you will have a broken system at > worst or a bunch of cruft at best. > > never ever install anything yourself unless its in /usr/local/ amen!
Re: Lilo and vga=mode Question
on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 01:45:34AM -0600, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2000 at 09:57:55PM -0500, David Bellows wrote: > > The numbers in the second column are in hex. The proper way to specify > > hex for lilo would be (for you specifically): > > vga=0x0122 > > is there any way to change the console resolution after boot? > > or are we stuck with a microso~1 - like 'windont has detected > that you moved your mouse; would you like to reboot now?' $ man SVGATextMode This allows interactively setting and changing console mode font settings. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpactw4BP53q.pgp Description: PGP signature
attention: voodoo3 owners
dear fellow voodoo3 owners, the debian driver for your card will NOT work with 2.4 kernels. not even if you compile it from the source code. the file operations table is an array of pointers to functions which implement file operations which would be useful to a device, like reading and writing. the problem is, when linux attempts to support new devices, new operations need to be implemented, so the file operations table (fops table) needs to be changed from time to time. the fops table is different between the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels. hence, your card will not work under 2.4 without modifying 3dfx_driver.c. i have the diff necessary to upgrade your driver to 2.4, but it's not perfect. it works very well, but there are some games where opengl functions don't do their thing. sometimes you can see through walls, or sometimes textures get "beads" around them. it's not really bad; just annoying. some games are affected quite a bit, like soldier of fortune (love that game!). some seem to be affected almost not at all, like quake 3. my recommendation is to stay with 2.2. but if you really want to upgrade to 2.4, some kind soul was nice enough to post his 2.4 upgrade diff to the debain bug-track site. if you have trouble applying his patch, i'll send you my copy. hopefully, the opengl glitches will be solved sooner or later. i've emailed the maintainer, steve haslam, twice and he's ignored my emails. he has unclosed bug reports that date back to over 200 days ago, so i'm not sure we're going to see an update for this driver for a while. pete linux To err is human, to forgive is divine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To oink is porcine, to meow is feline.http://www.dirac.org/p._. To neigh is equine to howl is lupine, /v\ To moo is bovine to bleat is ovine.// \\ ^^ ^^ The best way to accelerate a win95 system is at 9.81 m/s^2 rules
Re: Presentation software
Also: MagicPoint. It's fairly powerful, but the syntax is a bit obscure. And it's free software. Both the Applix and Corel suites should have a presentation tool. Not sure what the KDE / Gnome suites have to offer in this department. HTML with a kiosked browser window is another option. As is PDF or postscript if you don't need the fancy stuff. on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 04:29:45PM +0100, Helgi Örn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > StarOffice perhaps? > I installed it on my potato and it runs very well so far. > > Helgi Örn > > "Thomas R. Shannon" wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a graphics presentation progam similar to Power Point. > > It has to be able to work in a full-screen slide mode and be able too > > insert eps graphics files. The ability to directly insert wmf files > > would certainly be a plus. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Tom > > -- > > Quote of the day for November 3rd, 2000 > > The marvelous richness of human experience would lose something of > > rewarding joy if there were no limitations to overcome. The hilltop > > hour would not be half so wonderful if there were no dark valleys > > to traverse. > > - Helen Keller > > > > ___ > > gnome-list mailing list > > gnome-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list > > -- > - > *** Helgi Örn ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] > * SuSE 7.0 * Debian/GNU * > ** Caldera eDesktop 2.4** > - > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpIzoRqMrPmp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ISDN Dial In
> > > i just got my first debian cd's ever and everything worked fine yet. > > > but like every time i have problems setting up the ISDN connection (maybe > > > it's the most complicated task cause i can't get online help during the > > > configuration ;) > > > i installed the isdnutils package, the kernel modules for the isdn system > > > and the isdncard are up and running. > > > i executed isdnconfig and created the config files. > > > i changed the values for my localmsn, the remote msn and my username. > > > finally i created /etc/pap-secrets and added my username and password. > > > now when i try to connect, imon shows me online for about a second and > > > then disconnects. > > > in /var/log/messages everything i see is the same; that it disconnects > > > immidiatly after login. > > > so i think this is an authentication error. > > > unfortunatly the debian online book i know doesn't tell anything about > > > authentication it just says "read the documentation". > > > and the isdnutils documentation just says "you have to add an entry to > > > pap-secrets" well this is not much informative :( > > > does anyone in this list got his isdn dialin with athentification working > > > and could tell me what exactly i have to do (maybe i missed something)? > > > or can anyone give me hint how to find the error? > > > btw, my provider is t-online (germany). > > > > Try to enable debugging, both in .etc.isdn/ipppd.ippp0 and in > > /etc/syslog.conf and try to inspect the logs afterwards. You might also > > post them in the list. I believe you should restart /etc/init.d/sysklogd > > after changing its config file. > > ok, i enabled debugging. > in /var/log/messages i have the following entry when i start isdnutils: > > Nov 3 15:14:33 ranger ipppd: info: no PAP secret entry for this user! I am nut sure it is important, but might be wrong. I have: [19:56:11 /tmp]$ grep CHAP /var/log/syslog Nov 3 19:01:31 rakefet ipppd: info: no CHAP secret entry for this user! [19:56:17 /tmp]$ Are you sure your ISP uses these auth methods? Perhaps it is using CHAP? What are the messages after this one? > > my pap-secrets file looks like this (i backupped the old one, cause i found > it too complicated, btw, is "i found it too complicated" a valid english > sentence?): > > "000124325234#543235436524#0001" * 23425432 > > of course i changed the values. > > in ipppd.ippp0 i changed only a value in the auth section: > > # AUTHENTICATION > > name "000124325234#543235436524#0001"# set local name for auth XXX_ > #user X # set name for auth with peer; default is value for name > #usehostname# use hostname for auth > #remotename X # set remote name for auth > #noauth # (dont) require peer (the other) to auth > #require-pap# allow only pap authentication (dialin only) > #require-chap # allow only chap authentication (dialin only) > #login # use system password database for pap > #papcrypt # pap passwords are encrypted > > any ideas what's going wrong? Beside syslog I would also examine messages and debug files. -- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: unstable ==? woody
Hi Gregory! On Fri, 03 Nov 2000, Gregory Guthrie wrote: > Can I change my /etc/apt/sources.list from: > deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free > > to > deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free > > and it will be the same for now, but after the next release, I will then be > in stable, instead of always on unstable? yes, should work. yours, peter -- PGP encrypted messages preferred. http://www.palfrader.org/
Re: New user rant..urr, questions.
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:28:30PM -0500, sysy wrote: > I'm an experienced computer user, and have been looking at > Linux closer and closer over the last few years. On a couple > of occaisions I have attempted to install various flavours of > Linux with.. umm.. "classic" results. You see, I'm cursed.. > for me, software breaks in the strangest ways. Trust me. If > you think it happens only to you, yes, it's documentable and > exists in others. There is no cure. that's not good news. maybe they'll develop one soon, i'll keep hoping... > --+ Anyhow. I would like some user help. I need a set of > links pointing towards user stories on Debian, as well as > various other user pages. There are no links on > http://www.debian.org and I couldn't find a webring with a > couple of quick searches. interesting. i think most user-contributed help on debian probably falls under 'generic linux war stories' which would indeed make it hard to find... but folks like kmself (http://www.netcom.com/~kmself) do occasionally post useful intro/howto/what-the documents that might qualify... > --+ I would like to document my experiences with Debian, > essay-style, to contribute to the efforts. please do! > My gift of finding problems with software will kick in.. I'll > take notes and review the software so hopefully everything > will be reproducable. IF Debian manages to miraculously > survive the ordeal, I will have an archive filled with > screenshots, doodles and essays describing how it can be made > even better. But that's for later. for capturing an install via console, use 'script' in case you're not familiar with it... not good to use when your cursor is hopping all around (as in an editor or an n-curses dialog) but great for capturing all the text flying by... > And so I'm left here. Don't let me down. the number of satisfied debian folk seems large enough that whether or not you're disappointed will ultimately rest on the lump between your very own shoulders. mine likes it. may the source be with you. -- There are only two places in the world where time takes precedence over the job to be done. School and prison. --William Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/
Re: Connecting to Netware servers.
"Rogelio E. Castillo Haro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Someone here knows if Debian has a deb package to install a client to > login to a netware server? Install ncpfs. HTH, cbb
Re: New user rant..urr, questions.
on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:28:30PM -0500, sysy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > ** WARNING ** I TYPE A LOT! DEAL WITH IT!! Not an issue if you can format text in such a way as to make it readable. Paragraphs and standard delmiters (the '+--+ crap is annoying as hell) strongly preferred. See below as example. > I'm an experienced computer user, and have been looking at Linux closer > and closer over the last few years. On a couple of occaisions I have > attempted to install various flavours of Linux with.. umm.. "classic" > results. You see, I'm cursed.. for me, software breaks in the strangest > ways. Trust me. If you think it happens only to you, yes, it's > documentable and exists in others. There is no cure. > > Anyways, after a horrible experience with Mandrake (it's looks good but > tastes bad), I've decided on Debian because: > > - kernal-independance (why base the distrib on someone else's work?) > > - fair popularity (tough to guage since I haven't looked for Debian > Anyhow. I would like some user help. I need a set of links pointing > towards user stories on Debian, as well as various other user pages. > There are no links on http://www.debian.org and I couldn't find a > webring with a couple of quick searches. Check list archives here for various threads asking about Debian v. Foo package comparisons. You'll find articles at NewsForge, LinuxWorld, LinuxToday, apparently a lot of recent advocacy at Slashdot (not certain, hardly read it anymore), etc. Similarly, advocacy discussions elsewhere online. > I would like to document my experiences with Debian, essay-style, to > contribute to the efforts. My gift of finding problems with software > will kick in.. I'll take notes and review the software so hopefully > everything will be reproducable. IF Debian manages to miraculously > survive the ordeal, I will have an archive filled with screenshots, > doodles and essays describing how it can be made even better. But > that's for later. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpDmcu1TaUiY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: New user rant..urr, questions.
on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:21:12PM -0600, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: <...> > > --+ Anyhow. I would like some user help. I need a set of > > links pointing towards user stories on Debian, as well as > > various other user pages. There are no links on > > http://www.debian.org and I couldn't find a webring with a > > couple of quick searches. > > interesting. i think most user-contributed help on debian > probably falls under 'generic linux war stories' which would > indeed make it hard to find... > > but folks like kmself (http://www.netcom.com/~kmself) do > occasionally post useful intro/howto/what-the documents that > might qualify... Oh shit, I've been summoned My current FAQs cover backups, browsers, books, partitioning, and xdm. No general installation FAQ. I tend to subscribe strongly to the advice given by Rick Moen (Google: "Rick Moen LinuxMafia Debian" should produce results), some of which is influenced by me. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Zelerate, Inc. http://www.zelerate.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/http://www.kuro5hin.org pgp7kYvdUPqHi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree 4.0.1
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > if you installed into /usr/local like your supposed to your fine, if > you just overwrote random stuff in /usr your hosed. X wants to go in /usr/X11R6, /etc/X11, and so on. What you want to do is make a backup of all the relevant dirs before proceeding. On my system, they are /etc/X11 /usr/X11R6 /var/catman/X11R6 /usr/include/X11 /usr/lib/X11 /usr/share/lib/X11 Even if you didn't make a backup, I doubt that you've ruined your life by installing the tarball. Some things may be broken in 4.0.1, but that's about it. In the worst case you can always nuke the X directories and reinstall the debs. Right now I have both X3.3.6 and X4.0.1 installed, the former via debs and the latter via tarball. I switch between the two by symlinking to the appropriate directories, as in ln -s /etc/X11-3.3.6 /etc/X11 I can't recommend this approach without reservations, because I've only been using it for a few days and it may have broken things (though I can't see why it would off-hand). Don't let debian run your life! -chris
