Re: HELP! with ethernet

[Philipp Schulte]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:37:12PM +0800, Cam Ellison wrote: 

> How do I force the system to identify the ethernet card?
> I have put the following line in lilo:
> ether=0,ox300,eth0 to force probing

That should be obsolete because it is a PCI, isn't it?

> How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps
> complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the
> name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. 
> All the other *.h files are recognized)?  Is this the problem?
> I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the
> consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged.

Is the file called "modversions.h"? I had this problem once but only
while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the
kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional
option: "-I /usr/src/linux/linux".
You could check if the newer driver works for you. Have a look at
http://www.scyld.com .
But you can compile the kernel? Did you make "linux" a symlink to
"linux-2.2.17"?

Phil

Re: security of deb pkg's proftp and sftp

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:02:18AM -0400, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:
> 
> Could you explain the steps necessary to do this ? I am running sshd (v1
> I think) on my home system (woody) which is on a cable connection. I

if you track woody then your probably using openssh v2.

to forbid password authentication set PasswordAuthentication no in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config.

> would like to able to connect to this home system from work to
> periodically check email, etc.
> 
> I currently use PuTTY at work for ssh connections. How can I setup
> things so that I don't use password authentication ?

putty does not support RSA authentication.  it only supports passwords.

> Also, will PuTTY work with a SSH v2 server ?

no, but OpenSSH 2 has ssh v1 support.  

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Re: gnapster

[John Bagdanoff]

Another alternative is to grab knapster.rpm, convert it to a
deb package via alien.  I did this months ago because I
never could get gnapster to work.  
I've never had problems with knapster.

John

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:53:59PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
> I've found that gnome-napster works perfectly whereas gnapster stays
> disconnected. However, gnome-napster has few less features, but at least
> its a temporary answer.
> Andrei
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Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[John L . Fjellstad]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:48:29PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> I'm not berating people because of the Distro they Choose.

Well, I wasn't accusing you. It just seems that every time there is
a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that
the distributions aren't that different.

> Peolpe will choose what they like.  What I'm trying to find is a way to
> convince the place where I work, to let me use Debian.  

Well, if you want stability and security, having used both, I must say,
both are pretty much the same.  I still aren't convinced that Debian
is somehow more stable than Redhat.  Doesn't make sense.  Enlightenment
0.16.3 doesn't magically become more stable because you installed it on
Debian as opposed to Redhat.  Software doesn't work that way, sorry.

The main advantage of Debian is the package system.  Everything is 
dots over the i's.

And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to
have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help
your situation. Iif they don't feel that you respect them, they
won't respect you. It's hard to convince someone on your position
when they don't respect you.

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Re: kernel update?

[Manoj Srivastava]

>>"Dale" == Dale Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Dale> Thanks for the reply, I downloaded the 2.2.17 kernel from
 Dale> kernel.org and compiled it, that's actually easier for me than
 Dale> the debian way for now.

Incidentally, you can use make-kpkg on kernels downloaded from
 kernel.org as well (that's what I always do)

manoj
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FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

[Christophe Broult]

Has anyone had the same problem here?

Thank you,

Chris

--- Begin Message ---

Hello,

I have just compiled the last version of the Linux kernel
(2.4.0-test8) and somehow I am no longer able to use ssh and get the
following message:

 Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11.

In /var/log/auth, I can find the following line:

sshd[4460]: error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

Note that until now I have been using a 2.4.0-test7-preX with no
problem.

I do not know if the error I get is related to the following change
mentioned for test8-pre1:

- socket() error code fix (EAFNOSUPPORT instead of EINVAL)

Thank you for your help and the great work on Linux,

Chris

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the faculty of laughter."
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh-add   
Need passphrase for /home/cbroult/.ssh/identity
Enter passphrase for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
Identity added: /home/cbroult/.ssh/identity ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh -v localhost
SSH Version OpenSSH_2.1.1, protocol versions 1.5/2.0.
Compiled with SSL (0x0090581f).
debug: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
debug: Applying options for localhost
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: ssh_connect: getuid 1000 geteuid 1000 anon 1
debug: Connecting to madison [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug: Connection established.
debug: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.1.1
debug: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.1.1
debug: Waiting for server public key.
debug: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
debug: Forcing accepting of host key for loopback/localhost.
debug: Seeding random number generator
debug: Encryption type: 3des
debug: Sent encrypted session key.
debug: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
debug: Received encrypted confirmation.
debug: Trying RSA authentication via agent with '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
debug: Server refused our key.
debug: RSA authentication using agent refused.
debug: Trying RSA authentication with key '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
debug: Server refused our key.
debug: Doing password authentication.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
debug: Requesting pty.
debug: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding.
debug: Requesting authentication agent forwarding.
debug: Requesting shell.
debug: Entering interactive session.
Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11.
debug: Calling cleanup 0x8051020(0x0)
debug: Calling cleanup 0x805cbbc(0x0)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ 

Here is another connection attempt:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ date
Sun Sep 10 16:31:19 CEST 2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ ssh localhost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding.
Last login: Sun Sep 10 16:30:33 2000 from madison on pts/10
Linux madison 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 12:00:43 CEST 2000 i586 unknown

Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are
freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program
are described in the individual files in /usr/doc/*/copyright

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
No mail.
Last login: Sun Sep 10 16:30:33 2000 from madison
Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ date
Sun Sep 10 16:31:27 CEST 2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/chris $ 


Upon that connexion attempt the following lines are added to
/var/log/auth:

Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: Accepted password for cbroult from 
127.0.0.1 port 1199
Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: error: socket: Address family not supported 
by protocol
Sep 10 16:31:25 madison PAM_unix[4460]: (ssh) session opened for user cbroult 
by (uid=0)
Sep 10 16:31:25 madison sshd[4460]: Disconnecting: Command terminated on signal 
11.
Sep 10 16:31:25 madison PAM_unix[4460]: (ssh) session closed for user cbroult
--- End Message ---

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Re: FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

[George Bonser]

Works fine here:

chester:/tmp# ssh -l root localhost
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
Last login: Mon Sep 11 00:34:40 2000 from localhost on pts/4
Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown

Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are
freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program
are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
chester:~# uname -a
Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown
chester:~# 


I suspect you got something wrong in your network options of the config.

RE: ClassyTcl

[Bill Barnes]

>= Original Message From Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> Have not found a deb for ClassyTcl.
>> I'm running 2.2 woody and have problems compiling the source.
>>
>
>
>What error messages do you get?
>

The make failed to find a directory /usr/local/unix... 
I have since then tried to run it Windows, rejected it and moved on.

Cheers
Bill Barnes

>
>> ClassyTcl looks like a robust GUI builder.  Installed the Windoze binary to
>> evaluate it, but only interested in Linux version.
>>
>> >= Original Message From Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =
>> >> Hello the List:
>> >>
>> >> Has anybody installed this package?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >[03:06:24 /tmp]$ grep-available -i ClassyTCL
>> >[03:06:41 /tmp]$
>> >Does it has a deb? What does it do?
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Bill Barnes
>> >>
>> >>
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Re: replace chars in filenames?

[Lars O . Grobe]

Addressed to: Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  debian-user@lists.debian.org

** Reply to note from Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun, 10 Sep 2000 
09:42:25 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Krzys!

Thank you!!!

I must find out now if the apple clients will like the files than.

CU, Lars.

Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[Bruce Sass]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, John L . Fjellstad wrote:
> Well, if you want stability and security, having used both, I must say,
> both are pretty much the same.  I still aren't convinced that Debian
> is somehow more stable than Redhat.  Doesn't make sense.  Enlightenment
> 0.16.3 doesn't magically become more stable because you installed it on
> Debian as opposed to Redhat.  Software doesn't work that way, sorry.

Hmmm, well, ya... if all was identical between RedHat and Debian.
They may use software with the same name, but not necessarily: the same
versions, compilation options, combinations of packages, or tweaks.

There are more than enough openings for one distro to be more stable
than the other, but it may only show up in specific area(s) depending
on the skill (or lack of skill) of the distros maintainers for that area
of the software map.

I'd take any sweeping generalization as to the stability of a distro
with a grain of salt, especially when I don't know if the one doing
the reporting has longtime and wide ranging experience with a number of
distributions on various hardware combinations.


later,

Bruce

Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[George Bonser]

> 
> I'd take any sweeping generalization as to the stability of a distro
> with a grain of salt, especially when I don't know if the one doing
> the reporting has longtime and wide ranging experience with a number of
> distributions on various hardware combinations.

Having had some experiance with several distros of Linux, *BSD and Solaris
... if I had to maintain a machine 1000 miles away that is in an
unattended colocation facility ... I'll take Debian, thank you.

RE: Debian VS. Red Hat

[Christian Pernegger]

> -Original Message-
> From: John L . Fjellstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:43 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
> 
> [...] It just seems that every time there is
> a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that
> the distributions aren't that different.

Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the
distros themselves sure aren't.

A distro as I understand it is the effort to integrate linux software
in a way that there seems to be a consistent OS.

Some differences are, therefore:

* installer
* package management
* file system policies
This won't be an issue as soon as the FHS is widely adhered to.
In the meantime, I really love it when my files are where I
would expect them.
* configuration
Most config tools are specific to or at least developed by
a distro company.
Also: where is "the network" configured, how is init handled?
* incuded software, and version thereof
* support

Note that this does not make any distro better than any other
in an objective way, but definitly discernable. There is merit
in searching for the product one's most comfortable with.

All, of course, my humblest of opinions.

[...]

> And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to
> have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sheep doesn't help
> your situation. If they don't feel that you respect them, they
> won't respect you. It's hard to convince someone on your position
> when they don't respect you.

While you're certainly right on principle, "illiterate sheep" just fits
a certain kind of (office) computer users perfectly, don't you think?

Regards

Christian

/me casts Protection From Fire

Re: Weird messages after kernel compiling...

[John L . Fjellstad]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:59:13PM +0400, Rino Mardo wrote:
 
> for me i'd rename it to /lib/modules/2.2.17-old in case i need 'em back ;-)

Actually, I do the same, until I get the new kernel tested and working.
Otherwise, in cases where I go from one version to another, like
2.2.15-2.2.17, I would keep the /lib/modules/2.2.15 directory around.
I don't really delete old kernels unless I run out of space.

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RE: German keys on console

[Santiago Vila]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote:

> That's got nothing to do with the keymap (which is fine.)
> 
> Two things are important:
> 
> 1) in /etc/inputrc set 'convert-meta off' must be uncommented
>(it maybe by default in 2.2r1, it wasn't in tc3. The metakey
> still works fine, BTW)
> 
> 2) The environment variable 'LANG' must be set to, i.e., 'de_DE',
>which also lets
> 
>   LC_CTYPE(the culprit)
>   LC_NUMERIC
>   LC_TIME
>   LC_COLLATE
>   LC_MONETARY
>   LC_MESSAGES
> 
> default to 'de_DE'. If you're like me you'll like to override
> at least LC_MESSAGES back to 'en_US'.

Only 2) is important. If you set the locale properly you don't have to
change /etc/inputrc at all.

Re: vim + printing = wretched output

[Shao Zhang]

William Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Bill
> > 
> > Vim supports several options to munge tabs in various ways.  One is
> > "expandtab", which will replace each TAB character with the number of
> > spaces defined by "tabstop".  But this replaces the TAB, which may not
> > be what some people want.
> > 
> > See also "softtabstop", which will "simulate" a tabstop setting without
> > actually changing tabstop itself, using a combination of spaces and tabs
> > to generate the indentation.  For instance, if "set softtabstop=4" is
> > used (with tabstop=8), the first indent is 4 spaces, the second a tab,
> > the third a tab and 4 spaces, etc.
>  
> 
> Bob,
> 
> The softtabstop is exactly what I needed.  I reset the tabstop to 8, set the
> softtabstop to 3 and edited a test file.  When I less or more it it looks the
> same as it does when I'm editing the file.  Thanks a ton for that hint.  Even
> though it took me another hour or so to re-edit my file and fix those tabs it
> is well worth it because I just love vim.  Again, thanks.

Have you tried astyle to do this?

shao.
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Re: changing partiton size

[Daniel Reuter]

Hello there,

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:08:10AM +0200, QBA wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a problem because in a few days will have no free space
> > on one of my partitons. I mounted on it /var directory and gave 
> > only 150MB for use. But now (after 3 months) I have only 21MB free.
> > Because I also have one almost unused partition I thought that maybe
> > I could resize these 2 partitions. Is any tool available (like partition
> > magic for winshit) that can do that (without loss of my data)?
> > Thanks for help,
> 
> Have you been using apt-get?  If you haven't done so already, you may be
> able to reclaim some space with "apt-get clean".  apt-get keeps all the
> packages it downloads in /var/cache/apt/archives.  They can add up after
> a while.
> 
> If that's not what's eating up your space, you may have luck with parted
> or 'gparted'.  I'd back up the whole space (if not your whole disk)
> first.  If you have enough space on another partition, you can use tar
> or cpio or 'cp -a' to copy all of the contents.  Can't give you any help
> with parted (others have reported success).

parted works well, have used it. Only it can't move beginnings of
partitions, so if you want to do that you'll have to figure out how to
move the contents of the following partition to another one, delete the
following one and extend the one you want to resize. I'll leave this as
exercise to the reader. If you have problems, you could contact me again.
AFAIK, partition magic can also resize linux-partitions, so if you have a
bootable disk with it on it, you should be able to use, but I have no
experience with it.
Regards,
Daniel  

installing gdm

[Robin Faichney]

I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm.

I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the
package management utilities.  Using dselect, and selecting gdm,
I'm told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed.
But task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled
too, which is obviously not what's wanted.  I tried to force it not to
remove task-* by hitting Q instead of  in the dependencies list,
but that seemed to have no effect.  How can I get gdm properly installed?

-- 
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Problems Installing Oracle 8i

[James Grant]

Hi,
 I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
followed the
 directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the 
"./runInstaller"
 command.  This is the error I am recieving:

 Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait...
 Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 
 : Bad address

 I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like 
Redhat!  So can
 someone give me some advice.

 Thanks!
 James E. Grant 

Re: Problem installing Oracle 8i

[Jaume Teixi]

James,

if you are installing 8.1.5 I think that install manual explicity says that you 
have to install
exactly JRE 1.1.7 (or 1.1.6 I couldn't remember) and also a symlink from  
ORACLE_HOME/bin/jre
---> /usr/local/jre/bin/jre

then be sure to install patch for 8.1.5

if you are installing 8.1.6, oracle installs JRE 1.1.7 on /home/oracle/jre and 
isn't necessary to
have it installed under /usr/local/

hope it helps !!

> Hi,
>  I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
> followed the
>  directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the 
> "./runInstaller"
>  command.  This is the error I am recieving:
>
>  Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait...
>  Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1
>
>  : Bad address
>
> --
> Jaume Teixi
> Administrador de Sistemes
> 6TEMS - Ducform, SA
> http://www.6tems.com
>

Re: no ping

[Michael Soulier]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Andr? Dahlqvist wrote:

> 
> > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all
> > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies
> > 
> 
> > They're there already. However, a ping localhost still works...
> 
> Notice the "1" in the above statements. That means "true".

Ah, more coffee required apparently. Cool. I'll do that. 

Mike

Re: installing gdm

[Martin Fluch]

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Robin Faichney wrote:

> I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm.
> 
> I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the
> package management utilities.  Using dselect, and selecting gdm, I'm
> told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed. But
> task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled too,
> which is obviously not what's wanted.  I tried to force it not to
> remove task-* by hitting Q instead of  in the dependencies
> list, but that seemed to have no effect.  How can I get gdm properly
> installed?

There is no problem removing task-x-window-systems. It is only a so called
meta-package, "containig" only dependencies to other packages, so that
they get installed. After removing it installing gdm should be no problem.

Martin

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Re: Seminar on "Cyber Law for Everyman"

[isme]

Dear Sir / Madam,

Attached please find the details of the seminar on "Cyber Law for Everyman" for 
your information.

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Re: FW: 2.4.0-test8 and ssh (OpenSSH_2.1.1): error: socket: Address family not supported by protocol

[Christophe Broult]

George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Works fine here:
> 
> chester:/tmp# ssh -l root localhost
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: 
> Last login: Mon Sep 11 00:34:40 2000 from localhost on pts/4
> Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown
> 
> Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are
> freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program
> are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
> 
> Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
> permitted by applicable law.
> chester:~# uname -a
> Linux chester 2.4.0-test8 #1 SMP Sun Sep 10 16:06:26 PDT 2000 i686 unknown
> chester:~# 
> 
> 
> I suspect you got something wrong in your network options of the config.

Do you have X11 forwarding enabled?

I have tried to compare the network options for 2.4.0-test7 and
2.4.0-test8 and I have made a new build so they were similar but to no
avail:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Warning: Remote host denied X11 forwarding.
  Last login: Mon Sep 11 13:23:50 2000 from madison on pts/4
  Linux madison 2.4.0-test8 #1 Mon Sep 11 10:25:03 CEST 2000 i586 unknown
  
  Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are
  freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program
  are described in the individual files in /usr/doc/*/copyright
  
  Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
  permitted by applicable law.
  Last login: Mon Sep 11 13:23:50 2000 from madison
  Received disconnect: Command terminated on signal 11.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ 


If you have any suggestion, I am enclosing those configs.

Thank you,

Chris

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Re: installing gdm

[Julio Merino]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:56:54PM +0200, Robin Faichney wrote:

> I have Debian 2.2, and would like to substitute gdm for xdm.
> 
> I'm a recent convert to Debian, and not entirely at ease with the
> package management utilities.  Using dselect, and selecting gdm,
> I'm told that it conflicts with xdm which will therefore be removed.
> But task-x-window-system depends on xdm, so that will be uninstalled
> too, which is obviously not what's wanted.  I tried to force it not to
> remove task-* by hitting Q instead of  in the dependencies list,
> but that seemed to have no effect.  How can I get gdm properly installed?

Use apt-get to do this kinds of things. So you can do:

apt-get install gdm

And everything will get ok. Another thing (I'm not completly sure) is
that task-x-window-system is only a virtual package which depends on
others. This means if you remove it, all the X window system won't be
removed.

Bye!

> 
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Re: Harddrive Weirdness

[Julio Merino]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:14:09PM -0400, Gregg C wrote:

> This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest someone 
> here.
> 
> I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very  been 
> running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so its 
> recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went through 
> it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I was 
> interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I didn't 
> quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the 
> 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected it.
> 
> So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and 
> still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory and 
> hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other half 
> of the packages.
> 
> Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite shortly 
> the system locked up.
> 
> I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install over 
> again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same write 
> errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos 
> bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted from 
> the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the disk 
> totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but stil 
> got the same write errors during an install attempt.
> 
> Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install everything 
> went fine.
> 
> I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was 
> wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a 
> buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that was 
> able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long 
> powerdown?

Maybe your hard drive get too hot?? I don't know, but this can be a
reason, so in the 7-8 hours, it got cold another time and worked
fine. Try to get your system up several hours and look what happens.

Bye!

> 
> The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled.
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Re: two apt-get questions

[Julio Merino]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:32:15PM +0200, "Jürgen A. Erhard" wrote:

> > "Sean" == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> 2. How do I get apt-get to tell me which version of a package it
> >> would install, without actually installing it, regardless of
> >> the version of the existing package if any?
> 
> Sean> apt-get -s foo bar
> 
> Sorry, but it doesn't show the *versions*.  So, that'd be a resounding
> No here also.
> 
> Too bad, I'd like such an option also... currently you can only check
> apt-cache show foo against dpkg -s foo to see whether there's a newer
> version.  Ugly and complicated...

You can install console-apt or aptitude. Both show the installed
version and available version of every package, so you will be able to
check this.

Bye!

> 
> Bye, J
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Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)

[Julio Merino]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 04:01:46PM +0200, Kai Weber wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> has anyone the same experience with (all packages up-to-date) HelixGnome
> and Sawfish: 
> 
> The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained
> under "programs" the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I
> miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. 

You maybe removed the "menu" package from your system. Reinstall or
update it.

Bye!

> 
> Any idea, what went wrong? Or is it the supposed behavior? How can I get
> the Debian menu structure back at this place?
> 
> P.S. I tried to remove all my sawfish/sawmill settings in $HOME, because
> I thought I did something with my config. No effect.
> 
> Kai.
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MPI and parallel processing

[Lukasz Walewski]

Hi,

Has anyone any experiences with parallel programming under Debian?

I've been using Message Passing Interface under SGI/Irix;
the Intel clone of this library is MPIH.
Is there a .deb version of it ?

Lukas

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Re: HELP! with ethernet

[Moritz Schulte]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:01:33AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote:

> > How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps

do you mean the rtl8139.c from the linux source tree?
do not compile this file alone. use 'make config/menuconfig/xconfig'
to configure linux, there you can choose this driver. then compile the
kernel...

> > complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the
> > name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. 
> > All the other *.h files are recognized)?  Is this the problem?
> > I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the
> > consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged.
> 
> Is the file called "modversions.h"? I had this problem once but only

this modversion.h gets generated during the kernel build. so, you
can't pick one file (rtl8139.c) and compile it. choose this driver and
then compile your kernel.

> while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the
> kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional
> option: "-I /usr/src/linux/linux".

this should be: -I/usr/src/linux/include/linux or more generally:
-I/include/linux

it was needed, because this modversion.h will be somewhere _in the
source tree_, it is not installed somewhere in the system, where the
compiler looks for header files.

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Re: Please help with some harddisk error

[Marc-Adrian Napoli]

Hi all,

> I have seen such error messages below before too.it was when I decided
> to enable dma support for the hd via hdparmcheck to see whether that
> that has been enabled (hdparm /dev/hda). Anyway, after that incident, my
> hardisk had bad cluster/sectors!

dma support is on for the drive, but what are the consequences of turning
dma support off?

slower performance? can i just turn dma support off without rebooting?

Regards,

Marc-Adrian Napoli
Network Admin
Connect Infobahn Australia
+61 2 9281 1750

Re: logging interaction between minicom and modem - solved

[alice]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:11:13 PST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hmm, that's odd I tried to set up wvdial just now and it's saying
> that
> /dev/mouse is linked to ttyS0, and sure enough it does seem to 
>  could this be causing some of my problems? Is that something 
> that's safe to manually unlink or is there probably some program 
> that set that that I should have a chat with I know I have gpm 
> running, is that likely to have done it? The odd thing is I don't even 
> use a serial mouse, I use a bus mouse so it doesn't
> seem to make sense to have /dev/mouse pointing to a
> serial port does it?
> 
> anyways, if this sets off any lights or rings any bells for anyone,
> please
> share :)
> 
> -Alice
> 
yep, that was it. rm /dev/mouse and now chat's a happy camper 

(tried to send this email this weekend and got a message about debian-
user's mailbox being full so my apologies if this shows up twice)

-Alice
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Re: Debian or Stormix

[Ray Percival]

If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the same money 
you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm hides to much to really 
learn from IMO.

-- Original Message --
From: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Christopher W. Aiken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:01:49 -0400

>I currently use FreeBSD 4.1.  I have played with RH, MD,
>SuSE, and Caldera in the past.  I like learning new things 
>and thought that I would like to try Debian.
>
>As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian.
>Other than different "system installers" and Stormix
>has a "graphical" boot screen, are there any other 
>differences?  Stormix Deluxe comes with some "users"
>documentation books where as Debian does not.  I'd like
>to learn Debian.  I've heard a lot of good things on
>Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc.
>If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing
>to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the 
>documentation books that come with it.
>
>Any comments?  Please no flame wars.  There is enough
>flame wars about the stupidest things already.
>
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Re: Debian or Stormix

[mike]

Well i used Stormix for a few months before i installed
Debian potato. I used the free d/l from Stormix so i haven't
seen their documentation. Basically i started with Stormix
before Debian because i assumed the Stormix install would
be easier.
When i installed Debian potato from the pseudo-cd
image kit i found out it was an easier install than FreeBSD.
I' ve kept the boot-screen in LILO from Stormix just
because i like the way it looks. And i apt-get the stormpkg
from Stormix for the graphical front end to apt and dselect,
although i use the cmd line just as much.
Essentially the Stormix hail dist. is Debian potato.
But there are differences in some configurations, e.g. i
never got my mouse scroll wheel to work in Stormix but it
works with imwheel pkg in Debian and you wont have to
recompile the kernel for APM support in Debian if you
want auto power down at shut-off.
In Stormix the Helix Gnome is included but you can
just apt-get it after the base install of Debian.
So i would say if you installed FreeBSD go with the
Debian install ; in any case you'll never regret installing
Debian.


On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:01:49 -0400, Christopher W. Aiken said:

> I currently use FreeBSD 4.1.  I have played with RH, MD,
>  SuSE, and Caldera in the past.  I like learning new things 
>  and thought that I would like to try Debian.
>  
>  As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian.
>  Other than different "system installers" and Stormix
>  has a "graphical" boot screen, are there any other 
>  differences?  Stormix Deluxe comes with some "users"
>  documentation books where as Debian does not.  I'd like
>  to learn Debian.  I've heard a lot of good things on
>  Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc.
>  If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing
>  to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the 
>  documentation books that come with it.
>  
>  Any comments?  Please no flame wars.  There is enough
>  flame wars about the stupidest things already.
>  
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NSS db module, split from glibc

[Ben Collins]

Just a heads up, the nss_db module is going away from glibc. It was split
from glibc upstream, and will be packaged seperately from now on. For a
short while after glibc 2.1.93 is uploaded to woody, there will not be an
nss_db module, until I get that package done. If you use this module...

Ben

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Problems installing Oracle 8i

[James Grant]

Hi,
 I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
followed the
 directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the 
"./runInstaller"
 command.  This is the error I am recieving:

 Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait...
 Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 
 : Bad address

 I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like 
Redhat!  So can
 someone give me some advice.

 Thanks!
 James E. Grant 

Re: My orphaned packages.

[Daniel Kobras]

On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:

>  `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it.  I've
>  not even looked at it in over a year.

If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin Gasbichler who
wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me having just applied for Debian
maintainership this will take some time...

Daniel.

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Re: Source directory

[Florian Friesdorf]

On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 01:49:02PM +0200, Juli-Manel Merino Vidal wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Which is the proper place to uncompress and compile source code that
> will be installed on /usr/local without any deb? It's /usr/src or
> /usr/local/src?
> 
> For example, any program that I download from internet in .tar.gz file
> where should be uncompressed to follow debian policy (one of the two
> directories said above)?

I am not sure what the debian policy exactly says about sources.
I am using a user "build" who owns /usr/local/src to configure/compile sources.

> Just an example, the linux kernel... I have never used the debian
> packages and I have always used a .tar.gz. But where should I place
> it? Will it work under /usr/local/src?

My kernel sources are in /usr/local/src and I use "build" for them, too.
/usr/src belongs to root except for the modules dir hierarchy which is owned by 
build.
with kernel-package I also make a kernel-headers debian package which installs 
to /usr/src/kernel-header.. /usr/src/linux points to the headers of the 
running kernel (in /usr/src/, so I can "mess up" my kernel-sources while 
keeping the correct header files)

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Power management (continuation)

[Julio Merino]

Hi,

I've seen that there is a package called "acpid" and installed it. Now
I have to install the 2.4 kernel to be able to try it, but this might
be able to put the computer to sleep (no fans, no cpu, no harddisks,
etc).

I'm sure that my computer can do it, because I've seen it doing this
from win... but I'm unable to suspend with linux :-(

Bye!

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Re: what is a Machine Check Exception ?

[Henrique M Holschuh]

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, S.Salman Ahmed wrote:
> CPU 0: Machine Check Exception: 0004<0>Bank 1: 
> f2000115general protection fault: 

Erk.  Read bluesmoke.c in the kernel source.

> Never seen this before, so I'd be interested in a (technical)
> explanatation of exactly what netscape (no surprise there) did to cause
> this.

It's telling you your PII/PIII is malfunctioning or something like that (I
don't know if it also traps RAM ECC errors or other stuff like that). If
you're an overclocker, you know why. If not, you might want to call Intel's
customer support...

BTW, I know this code had some changes made in 2.2.18pre?, and they might be
bugfixes or something like that. So, you might want to run the above through
Alan Cox... just send the oops and ask them what it means at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the kernel development list). Do remember to tell
them your kernel version, CPU and motherboard, and that you're not
subscribed to the list...

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Oracle 8i problems.

[James Grant]

Hi,
 I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
followed the
 directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the 
"./runInstaller"
 command.  This is the error I am recieving:

 Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait...
 Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 
 : Bad address

 I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like 
Redhat!  So can
 someone give me some advice.

 Thanks!
 James E. Grant 

Deleted /dev/hda (MBR)

[Dominik Bittl]

UUUps !!

I deleted /dev/hda as root and now i cant boot anymore (without disc) !!

I tried to mkdir /dev/hda but it doesnt work with lilo !! My NT is still
working.
What can i do ??

Yeah i know it's stupid but what should i do ??

dominik

Re: Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)

[Kai Weber]

+ Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained
> > under "programs" the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I
> > miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. 
> 
> You maybe removed the "menu" package from your system. Reinstall or
> update it.

No. It is still installed in latest version and I tried serveral times
to reinstall it. No effect. 

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Prefered Disk set?

[Greg Vence]

Hello All,

Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release.  I'd like it
all...   non-us, contrib...

TIA -- Greg.

Re: HELP! with ethernet

[Philipp Schulte]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:28:12PM +0200, Moritz Schulte wrote: 

> On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 08:01:33AM +0200, Philipp Schulte wrote:

No I did not write this! Just because we have the same name does not
mean you are allowed to fake qoutes ;)
 
> > > How do I compile the rtl8139.c file (I have tried, but it keeps
> 
> do you mean the rtl8139.c from the linux source tree?
> do not compile this file alone. use 'make config/menuconfig/xconfig'
> to configure linux, there you can choose this driver. then compile the
> kernel...

I didn't ask this.
 
> > > complaining about a missing linux/mod*.h [sorry, I did not record the
> > > name] file, even when I attempt to compile it in the same directory. 
> > > All the other *.h files are recognized)?  Is this the problem?
> > > I'm sure I've done something totally inappropriate, but all the
> > > consultation with howto files and man pages has left me befogged.
> > 
> > Is the file called "modversions.h"? I had this problem once but only
> 
> this modversion.h gets generated during the kernel build. so, you
> can't pick one file (rtl8139.c) and compile it. choose this driver and
> then compile your kernel.

Thank you but my kernel and RTL8139 works fine.
 
> > while trying to compile a newer rtl8139 driver - not the one from the
> > kernel. I was able to compile it with (I guess) this additional
> > option: "-I /usr/src/linux/linux".
> 
> this should be: -I/usr/src/linux/include/linux or more generally:
> -I/include/linux

That's what I meant, sorry.
Phil

Re: Prefered Disk set?

[Christopher W. Aiken]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:41:40AM -0400, Greg Vence wrote:
-|Hello All,
-|
-|Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release.  I'd like it
-|all...   non-us, contrib...
-|
-|TIA -- Greg.

I bought my CD's from http://www.linux-cd.com
I bought N960-4, the 4 CD set for $40.  CD's
came in a few days.  Very happy with their service.

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mutt can burn in ****!!

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

My frustration limit with Mutt and it's incredibly stupid GPG detached
signature "feature" has reached it's limit.  Sure *mutt* can handle
verifying these signed messages, but *nothing* else can!  Even in mutt, if
I save all the MIME parts of the message to files (i.e. the gpg sig is
msg.key and the message body is msg.asc) and run gpg --verify msg.key
msg.asc, gpg tells me that the sig is bad!  This is a signed email that I
sent myself, on the same machine, using the same version of mutt & gpg and
all that.

It was suggested that I use 'set pgp_create_traditional' added in some new
version of mutt to generate traditional sigs.  So I upgraded mutt and
added that line to my .muttrc, and it did *something* but not exactly what
I wanted.  There is now only a single part of the message.  Woohoo, no
more detached sigs.  However, it is sent as Application/PGP, which no
mailer knows how to display natively.  Saving this attachment to disk and
running gpg will actually correctly verify the key!  Yay!  Some progress!

So, is there any way of telling mutt to attach this signed file as
text/plain or something that a non-mutt mailer will understand?

And *why* on earth does the mutt documentation indicate that use of the
widely supported traditional method of signing messages is (in bold face,
even) "strongly deprecated"???  It works, and most people can deal with it
easily and painlessly, where the recommended way of doing things
apparently only works if the recipients are using mutt.  I don't like
that.  It sounds too much like a microsoft marketing tactic.

oh well.  Sorry to vent my frustrations to the list.  I'll be eternally
grateful and a whole lot more relaxed if somebody can help me
out.  Thanks.

Oh yeah, this message was signed and sent from Pine using the very nice
(and compatible) pgp4pine package.

noah


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Re: Deleted /dev/hda (MBR)

[Philipp Schulte]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:39:24PM +0100, Dominik Bittl wrote: 

> I deleted /dev/hda as root and now i cant boot anymore (without disc) !!

How could this happen ;)
 
> I tried to mkdir /dev/hda but it doesnt work with lilo !! My NT is still
> working.
> What can i do ??

Have a look at /usr/src/linux/scripts/MAKEDEV.ide

Phil

Sawfish - lisp error?

[Christopher S. Swingley]

I've been using sawfish 0.30.3-6 and whenever I open a new window the
system beeps and prints this error to the error stream:

Lisp backtrace:
# ("áKãKäK+v" [0 (backquote-unquote 125.) 
sp-cost:overlap 0 (backquote-unquote 75.) sp-cost:focus-locality 
sp-cost:pointer-locality] 4) nil nil nil nil
# ("smart-placement" t) t
# (#) t
# (#) t

*** Symbol value is void: (backquote-unquote 125.)
*** Invalid autoload definition: (place-window-best-fit), Can only 
autoload from symbols

I've tried purging and re-installing sawfish, removing my .sawfishrc and
.sawfish/ directories, as well as different Window Placement settings,
but all windows do the same thing.  I also searched around for the
code listed in /usr/share/sawfish/lisp, but could find it.

Anyone know what's happening and how I might fix it?

Here's the versions of the lisp stuff that sawfish depends on:

ii  librep90.12.4-2   an embeddable Emacs-Lisp-like runtime librar
ii  rep0.12.4-2   lisp command interpreter frontends to librep
ii  rep-gtk0.13a-3GTK binding for librep
ii  rep-gtk-gnome  0.13a-3GTK binding for librep with gnome support

Thanks!

Chris
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Re: Prefered Disk set?

[Peter S Galbraith]

"Greg Vence" wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> Is there a prefered disk set vendor for the latest release.  I'd like it
> all...   non-us, contrib...

Note that `contrib' on the official CDs is incomplete.  AFAIK, it
only contains packages whose dependencies are fulfilled in the CD
set (so nothing that depends on non-free, which is probably most
of contrib).

(I got CDRs from lsl)

Peter

Kernel COmpile Problems

[Ronald Castillo]

Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel.  when I typed
the "make bzImage" command, at the end I got an error message saying "make:
as86: Command not found" or something like that.  Do I have to install any
package?  I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink.  Thanks
for your help...

Ronald

Re: Kernel COmpile Problems

[Mirek Kwasniak]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote:
> Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel.  when I typed
> the "make bzImage" command, at the end I got an error message saying "make:
> as86: Command not found" or something like that.  Do I have to install any
> package?  I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink.  Thanks
> for your help...

$ dpkg -S as86
bin86: /usr/share/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap
bin86: /usr/bin/as86
bin86: /usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.gz

:)
Install bin86 package.

Mirek

RE: Kernel COmpile Problems

[Ronald Castillo]

I'll do it.  Thanks for your help!!

-Original Message-
From: Mirek Kwasniak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:40 PM
To: Ronald Castillo
Cc: Debian-User Mailing List
Subject: Re: Kernel COmpile Problems


On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote:
> Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel.  when I typed
> the "make bzImage" command, at the end I got an error message saying
"make:
> as86: Command not found" or something like that.  Do I have to install any
> package?  I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink.
Thanks
> for your help...

$ dpkg -S as86
bin86: /usr/share/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap
bin86: /usr/bin/as86
bin86: /usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.gz

:)
Install bin86 package.

Mirek


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RE: Kernel COmpile Problems

[Ronald Castillo]

Thanks for your help..  I'll do that.  I also think kernel-source should
recommend that.  Otherwise, how would newbies like me do without help from
this mailing list?

-Original Message-
From: Michal F. Hanula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 3:42 PM
To: Ronald Castillo
Subject: Re: Kernel COmpile Problems


On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:31:15AM -, Ronald Castillo wrote:
> Hi... I had a small problem when I was compiling my kernel.  when I typed
> the "make bzImage" command, at the end I got an error message saying
"make:
> as86: Command not found" or something like that.  Do I have to install any
> package?  I'm using the rain distribution of Storm, based on Slink.
Thanks
> for your help...
>
> Ronald
>
Install ``bin86'' (somwhere in the devel section, I believe.).
A question to the maintainer (if he is listening): shouldn't the
kernel-source package suggest|recommend bin86?
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Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[William Jensen]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:43:30AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John L . Fjellstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 8:43 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
> > 
> > [...] It just seems that every time there is
> > a discussion of distribution, people are forgetting the fact that
> > the distributions aren't that different.
> 
> Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the
> distros themselves sure aren't.
> 
> A distro as I understand it is the effort to integrate linux software
> in a way that there seems to be a consistent OS.
> 
> Some differences are, therefore:
> 
> * installer
> * package management
> * file system policies
>   This won't be an issue as soon as the FHS is widely adhered to.
>   In the meantime, I really love it when my files are where I
>   would expect them.
> * configuration
>   Most config tools are specific to or at least developed by
>   a distro company.
>   Also: where is "the network" configured, how is init handled?
> * incuded software, and version thereof
> * support


Support.  OH yes support. The first time I set up RH (first linux ever) I 
naturally had some problems and questions.  I bought the retail version so
I had access to tech support from RH.  The first mail I sent them was a "how
do you see colors in the directories when you do a ls" type of mail.  The
reply came 13 days later and said (paraphrase) "I am so and so and I will
be your grade 3 support technician.  What you asked about is already set
up and is part of the standard distribution, if it isn't working for you
then you changed something in your configuration and we are not responsible
for that."  And that was it.  And there was NO color with ls.  I did naturally
find out about --color=auto but that was due to my looking not tech support.
The second email I sent them was a X related question that said "I can cycle
thru all the resolutions from 640x480 up to 1600x1200 but X always starts
in 640x480.  How can I tell X to start at 1600x1200?"  Their answer was "Our
technical support only covers configuring X to 640x480.  Since you reported
that this already works we are not obligated to assist you any further."  Yes
that was the end of the mail.  These examples happened to me the first
time I ever installed RH linux (my first linux).  I knew I'd have problems
so I paid the money for tech support and you can see what I received.  After
that I've had a different outlook on RH.  In my mind RH is the MS of Linux.
They do not care "about" linux, they care about how much money they can bleed
out of us before the "fad" is over. So if your work is going to insall RH
because "they offer true support" think twice.

I continued to run RH for a while because I did not know where else to go.  I
finally found the debian web site, read about the reasons debian exists, it's
goals and beliefs and was dumbstruck.  This distribution is what I was looking
for.  There is a widely held belief out there that debian is murder to install
and you had best not install it until you know what your doing because it
doesn't hand hold you like RH.  I found that to be somewhat accurate.
Naturally, the more experience you have with a "subject" the eaiser time you
have applying that knowledge to other related areas (other distributions).
So I stuck it out with RH until I thought I had a "decent" foundation of
understanding.  Then I switched to Debian and I've been vey happy since.

One of the things that I appreciate the most is this list.  I obviously 
still don't know everything.  It is a huge boost to debian in my eyes that
there are people like you guys out there that answer questions real-time.
There is nothing worse than being "almost" there and just need one more
tweak to get it right.  You can send a note to the list and get a reply
sometimes in a matter of 30 seconds.

Now lately I've read a couple people saying this is supposed to be a list
about straight debian problems.  If that truly is the case and general
questions belong elsewhere perhaps we could start a debian version of a
"general questions" list.  Those of you that aren't intersted in answering
"how do you get color in ls" wouldn't need to sign up for the list, but those
people that don't mind helping like that could and debian could have a dedicated
newbie list help line?  Just a thought. I know I would sign up for it just
to be there for the next person that needs to know something that I've already
tackled.  Thanks for your time.

Bill

> 
> Note that this does not make any distro better than any other
> in an objective way, but definitly discernable. There is merit
> in searching for the product one's most comfortable with.
> 
> All, of course, my humblest of opinions.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > And, btw, if you want convince somebody of your position, it helps to
> > have an open mind. Considering them illiterate sh

listres and viewres

[Charles Kaufman]

Hi
 listres and viewres fail with  

"Symbol 'XawWidgetArray' has different size in shared object, 
consider re-linking"

followed by 

"Segmentation fault"

There's some discussion about this under bug report #60390.

Is there a way to get these programs to run? Thanks.

Charles Kaufman
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Re: Kernel COmpile Problems

[Paul D. Smith]

%% Ronald Castillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  rc> Thanks for your help..  I'll do that.  I also think kernel-source
  rc> should recommend that.  Otherwise, how would newbies like me do
  rc> without help from this mailing list?

Well... I don't mean to be snippy but they _could_ read the docs :)

  /usr/share/doc/kernel-source-xxx/debian.README.gz

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Re: System sees only 65M of memory

[Erik]

On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:
> I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram.
> However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65
> M of memory. I have tried to use the append command
> 
> mem=768M
> 
> but it still sees only 65 M? 
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Arthur H. Edwards
> 712 Valencia Dr. NE
> Abq. NM 87108
> 
> (505) 256-0834
> 

I haven't tried on my athlon, but i've heard that grub will autodetect
your ram correctly, and pass the info to the kernel.  Still doesn't help
with the fact that mem= isn't working for you, but its a start :)

Erik Bernhardson
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Re: German keys on console

[Peter Malewski]

Thanks to all who answered my question. The solution was really easy, but i 
doesn't came into my mind..

thanks  

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Re: Harddrive Weirdness

[Gregg C]

From: Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gregg C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Harddrive Weirdness
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:09:17 +0200

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:14:09PM -0400, Gregg C wrote:

> This is somewhat more of a hardware question but it might interest 
someone

> here.
>
> I was installing (with the pci/ide disks) on a system that has very  
been
> running 2.1 for 9 or 10 months (I built it when I loaded 2.1 on it, so 
its
> recent hardware western digital ide hd, asus p5a, k6-2 450), went 
through
> it, rebooted, and was in dselect picking which packages to install. I 
was
> interupted and had to go away for a few hours, when I came back, I 
didn't

> quite realize at what step I was at in the install, and so I noticed the
> 2.2.17pre6 kernel image, and thought, oh I'd like that too, and selected 
it.

>
> So halfway through installing the packages, it replaced the kernel, and
> still not thinking about what I was doing, moved the modules directory 
and
> hit Y to install the new kernel. Then it continues installing the other 
half

> of the packages.
>
> Almost did that is. It began to get drive write errors, and quite 
shortly

> the system locked up.
>
> I had to cut the power, and start again. But when I began the install 
over
> again, even rewrote the partition table, etc, I kept getting the same 
write

> errors from the harddrive. I then formated the disk with and old dos
> bootdisk, and still got the errors when reinstalling. I then rebooted 
from
> the rescue disk, and did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda and wiped the 
disk
> totally. made one big partition, fscked it, and did a read check, but 
stil

> got the same write errors during an install attempt.
>
> Pissed, I went to bed, and got up in the morning and the install 
everything

> went fine.
>
> I can only assume being powered off for 7 or 8 hours caused whatever was
> wrong to go away. Is this reasonable? Is there something on the drive, a
> buffer of somekind, that could have been hosed by the kernel-crash that 
was

> able to survive a 30second power off, but went away during the long
> powerdown?

Maybe your hard drive get too hot?? I don't know, but this can be a
reason, so in the 7-8 hours, it got cold another time and worked
fine. Try to get your system up several hours and look what happens.

Bye!

>
> The last thing to ask me about is hardware, so I'm rather puzzeled.
> >
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I don't think that was the problem, because I continued to toy with it in 
the same location/conditions, the next day, after the good install, and I 
did significantly more cpu/drive intensive stuff than just running through 
an install, and never had any problems. Plus the box normally sits in a 
location slightly warmer than where I was messing with it, and I've not had 
any problems.


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Re: Debian or Stormix

[Phillip Deackes]

"Ray Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the
> same money you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm
> hides to much to really learn from IMO.

Maybe you could elucidate and tell us what exactly Storm Linux hides? I
have used Debian through several versions and Storm Linux more recently.
Storm adds a few features which make Linux easier for the beginner or
someone who just prefers a GUI interface. It offers an easier install
and adds a bit of gloss to Debian. It removes nothing of a standard
Debian install - all the usual command line utilities are available. You
could install Storm and pretend it was Debian and you would be none the
wiser once you had removed the Storm icons from the stndard KDE or Gnome
desktop.

I appreciate that some Linux users prefer a more difficult install
accompanied by a steep learning curve so if you are one of these you
will not like Storm Linux ;-)


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Using Storm Linux

Oracle 8i

[James Grant]

Hi,
 I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
followed the
 directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run the 
"./runInstaller"
 command.  This is the error I am recieving:

 Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please wait...
 Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1 
 : Bad address

 I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't like 
Redhat!  So can
 someone give me some advice.

 Thanks!
 James E. Grant 

getting exmh to display text as default on rude mime messages

[hawk]

I keep dinking around wiht options, but haven't found a way to work.

There seems to be no solution to the rude and clueless who send mime 
messages with html.  Unfortunately, exmh insists on defaulting to the 
html rather than the plain text.  I see different ways to display/not 
display things, but none to set the default types.

I thought there were priority settings somewhere in /etc, but I can't 
find any (I'd rather solve ithtere, as I get the same problem at the 
command line.  If a mime message has text, it should just plain be 
displayed, rather than requiring a few keystrokes and popping windows . 
. .)

has anyone solved this?

hawk

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Re: System sees only 65M of memory

[Jason Quigley]

Does your bios have the setting memory hole at 64M activated?  I'm not sure if 
that's the exact option.  I only vaguely remember something like that as I 
haven't rebooted for such a long time - and sorry - I refuse to for this!  ;-)


Cheers,
Jason.

--On Monday, September 11, 2000 9:20 -0700 Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote:

I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram.
However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65
M of memory. I have tried to use the append command

mem=768M

but it still sees only 65 M?

Does anyone have any ideas?


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712 Valencia Dr. NE
Abq. NM 87108

(505) 256-0834



I haven't tried on my athlon, but i've heard that grub will autodetect
your ram correctly, and pass the info to the kernel.  Still doesn't help
with the fact that mem= isn't working for you, but its a start :)

Erik Bernhardson
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booting with lilo win2k

[Arcady Genkin]

Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would
overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and
restored the MBR w/o problems.  However I can't figure out how to
multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager.  Searching the
web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot
menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way.

Adding the following to lilo.conf:
,
| other = /dev/hda1
|   label = win
`
doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message "Cannot find NTBF." or
some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del.

Is there a clean solution to this problem?  Will I have to reinstall
Win2K since I hosed its MBR?

Thanks for any pointers,
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Re: Oracle 8i problems.

[Kenneth Sims]

What is the exact version of Oracle you are trying to install... I spent 
several days
trying to get Oracle 8 version 8.1.5 to work with not success on my Debian 
box. Finally

was able to download 8.1.6 and it installed painlessly.

Ken

At 10:23 AM 9/11/2000, James Grant wrote:

Hi,
 I am trying to install Oracle 8i on a Debian box and even though I have 
followed the
 directions to the tee, I keep recieving the same error when I try to run 
the "./runInstaller"

 command.  This is the error I am recieving:

 Initializing Java Virtual Machine from /usr/local/jre/bin/jre. Please 
wait...

 Error in CreateOUIProcess(): -1
 : Bad address

 I have had success installing Oracle 8i on a RedHat box, but I don't 
like Redhat!  So can

 someone give me some advice.

 Thanks!
 James E. Grant


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Re: booting with lilo win2k

[Arcady Genkin]

Just as a follow-up to myself, in case it matters, the partition where
win2k is installed is in NTFS.
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Re: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk

[Bob McGowan]

It could be that the BIOS "reconfigured" itself to see the IDE disk.  I
have an old Micron that has an IDE and SCSI, and at one point I
"disabled" the IDE hard disk in the system BIOS, so it didn't get
scanned/seen at boot and the system went to the SCSI device as the
primary drive.  The disk was seen OK under Linux, because it has drivers
that probe the IDE bus (that don't use the BIOS).

"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> 
> Yes, it is when running LILO that I get the error.  It leaves the machine
> in an unbootable state.  Installing LILO onn a floppy or on the IDE drive
> made things happy, but I don't like it as I had been booting off the same
> SCSI disk for over a year.  It wasn't until I installed the second network
> card that LILO refused to install properly on the SCSI disk.
> 
> I suspect that installing the new net card caused the BIOS to completely
> re-arrange how it assigned IRQ/DMA/IO/whatever values to my hardware and
> somehow caused the SCSI card to be found after the IDE controllers, when
> proviously it was found first.  Maybe.  Something like that, anyway.
> 
> noah
> 
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, John Gilger wrote:
> 
> > Did you run lilo after you installed the new kernal?
> >
> > John
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Debian User List" 
> > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:48 PM
> > Subject: LILO: Warning: /dev/sda is not on the first disk
> >
> >
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> > >
> > > Can anybody shed some light on the error message above?  I get it whenever
> > > I run LILO now, and the system won't boot from the hard drive.  The only
> > > change to this system was a new network card (there are now 2) and the new
> > > kernel.  The kernel works fine, as I have installed LILO on a floppy and
> > > can boot with no trouble.
> > >
> > > Here are some details:
> > > SCSI controller ID is 7
> > > sda SCSI id 0
> > > all other SCSI disks disabled as part of my debugging
> > >
> > > hda is an IDE HD, no bootable partitions
> > > hdb is an IDE CDROM
> > >
> > > so...what is the "first disk"?  The system used to boot from /dev/sda just
> > > fine, and the problem really seems to have something to do with the second
> > > network card I added.
> > >
> > > TIA for the help.
> > > noah
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Found a free Excel help resource

[Ginny Dobbs]

Checkout www.skc.com
 
There is a free 30-day trial for 33 books on 
Microsoft Excel and other subjects.  It's call the Computer Reference 
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SV: booting with lilo win2k

[Jonas Moberg]

> Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would
> overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and
> restored the MBR w/o problems.  However I can't figure out how to
> multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager.  Searching the
> web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot
> menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way.
> 
> Adding the following to lilo.conf:
> ,
> | other = /dev/hda1
> |   label = win
> `
> doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message "Cannot find NTBF." or
> some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del.
> 
> Is there a clean solution to this problem?  Will I have to reinstall
> Win2K since I hosed its MBR?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers,

The Multiboot-with-LILO mini-howto (which is covering Win95 + WinNT + 
Linux multiboot using LILO, but works for win2000 aswell) is probably what 
your looking for. it worked for me anyway.. ;)

Netscape Tar.gz files

[Sebastian Canagaratna]

Hi:

 I am finding it difficult to lacate the netscape binaries to install
 the Navigator or communicator from ftp.netscape.com. I was in
 particular interested in 4.73 but there are not binaries at the site.
 Can somebody please point me to a useful site where these can be
 found.

 Thanks.

 Sebastian Canagaratna
 Department of Chemistry
 Ohio Northern University
 Ada, OH 45810
 

OFFTOPIC attn list admin: Debian.org in the RBL?

[Pollywog]

I am surprised to find that posts from the list are being rejected this
morning.  I have added debian.org to my rbl_exept list to get around this
problem.

Does anyone know what is going on?



2000-09-11 16:43:00 recipient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> refused from
murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6] (RBL)
--
2000-09-11 16:50:46 recipients refused from murphy.debian.org [216.234.231.6]
(RBL dssl.imrss.org)

Re: getting exmh to display text as default on rude mime messages

[kmself]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:27:47PM -0400, hawk (hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) wrote:
> 
> I keep dinking around wiht options, but haven't found a way to work.
> 
> There seems to be no solution to the rude and clueless who send mime 
> messages with html.  Unfortunately, exmh insists on defaulting to the 
> html rather than the plain text.  I see different ways to display/not 
> display things, but none to set the default types.
> 
> I thought there were priority settings somewhere in /etc, but I can't 
> find any (I'd rather solve ithtere, as I get the same problem at the 
> command line.  If a mime message has text, it should just plain be 
> displayed, rather than requiring a few keystrokes and popping windows . 
> . .)
> 
> has anyone solved this?

Not familiar with exmh, but mutt refers to a mailcap (or mailcaps) file.

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sendmail: Domain must resolve

[Krzys Majewski]

I changed my  hostname, after consulting this List, from the ugly one
given by my cable  provider to one that I like. There  is no DNS entry
anywhere for  this new hostname. Now,  I run sendmail not  as a daemon
but as  an mda or  mta or  whatever: to send  cron errors to  my usual
e-mail account. After changing  the hostname, I'm getting "Domain must
resolve" errors from sendmail (formatted strangely here to fit 70 cols):

Sep 11 07:56:12  mi sendmail[1024]: e8BEuBj01024: from=root, size=351,
class=0, nrcpts=1,
msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sep 11 07:57:58 mi  sendmail[1024]: e8BEuBj01024:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:01:46,
xdelay=00:01:46,mailer=relay,   pri=30351,
relay=smtp.cs.ubc.ca.  [142.103.6.52],  dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred:  451
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Domain must resolve

Also, it  looks like the  mails in question  are not showing up  in my
mailbox.  So I  guess my  question is,  is there  a sendmail  flag for
stifling the DNS lookup, and what is the debian-correct way to set it?

-chris

Re: X won't start

[Pat Mahoney]

On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:31:43PM -0600, Ray Percival wrote:
> Just installed 2.2 when it boots it looks like xfs and xdm both start up. 
> When I type startx I get.
> x: exec of /usr/bin/x11/xf86_svfg failed. I used xf86config to build a config 
> file this is a Diamond Viper 770 and I used the card definition that came 
> with x. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. Ray

xdm starts?  It must not be starting comletely as it starts X itself.  Try
disabling xdm by either uninstalling it (preffered) or doing a
"/etc/init.d/xdm stop" and then a "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" (I think,
please read the manpage first).  Then try to startx.  Maybe you will get
different error messages?

Do you have the svga xserver installed?  I assume so because it should have
said "file not found" if you didn't...

> 
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Re: mutt can burn in ****!!

[Preben Randhol]

"Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/09/2000 (17:07) :

[snipped a lot of whining about mutt]

> oh well.  Sorry to vent my frustrations to the list.  I'll be eternally
> grateful and a whole lot more relaxed if somebody can help me
> out.  Thanks.

My question is why the h... couldn't you have asked this nicely on the
mutt newsgroup or /dev/null?

> Oh yeah, this message was signed and sent from Pine using the very nice
> (and compatible) pgp4pine package.

So? Only means I have to snip more lines off your sig.

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Re: eterm/mutt manual?

[Oswald Buddenhagen]

> Anyhow, when I hit F1 in eterm, it brings up a menu block rather than
> the manual for mutt. Any way around this?
look for "bind anymod 0xffbe" in /usr/share/Eterm/themes/Eterm/theme.cfg
and comment it out.

good luck!

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Using RSA authentication with SSH - mini HOWTO

[kmself]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:02:18AM -0400, S . Salman Ahmed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> > "NA" == Nate Amsden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> NA> if you want to keep 'hackers' out, i suggest using it and
> NA> disabling password authentication in SSH and force RSA
> NA> passphrase authentication. of course this requires you have
> NA> knowledgable users(or you tell them how to create passphrases
> NA> and stuff)
> NA> 
> 
> Could you explain the steps necessary to do this ? I am running sshd (v1
> I think) on my home system (woody) which is on a cable connection. I
> would like to able to connect to this home system from work to
> periodically check email, etc.
> 
> I currently use PuTTY at work for ssh connections. How can I setup
> things so that I don't use password authentication ?
> 
> Also, will PuTTY work with a SSH v2 server ?

AFAIK, no.  But Data Fellowes has released a free v2 client for Windows,
or at least announced same.


The following is a brief howto on using RSA key authentication for SSH
sessions which I wrote for use at OpenSales.  Note that the remote host
needs to have RSA access enabled.  This is assumed in the HOWTO, and is
typically enabled by default.

Corrections appreciated.



How to Use RSA Key Authentication with SSH

Controlling Author:  Karsten M. Self
Fri Aug 4, 2000


What:   Allow secure, authenticated remote access, file transfer, and
command execution *without* having to remember passwords for
each individual host you connect to.

Who:All users needing remote access or data.  All platforms -- SSH 
is available for Linux, Unix, Windows, and Macintosh

Why:It's the Right Thing to Do (tm). 

In a networked world, remote access is a reality we have to deal
with.  Remembering passwords to myriad systems is inconvenient
at best, and leads to bad practices at worst -- shared
passwords, shared accounts, and other evils -- which are a
significant source of security threats.  

RSA authentication is both convenient (one passphrase, or if you
choose, no passphrase), allows access to many systems.  Remote
actions such as programs and file transfers can be automated so
that you don't have to "be there" when long processes occur.  If
access from a specific user or host needs to be curtailed, the
specific RSA key can be removed from the authorized_keys file
without requiring password changes of all other users.

Where accounts *must* be shared, RSA authentication provides an
additional audit trail and level of control over who is
accessing the account.  Again, if access from a specific
location or user needs to be curtailed, the appropriate key can
be removed from the authorized_keys list without disrupting
access for other users.


How:

And all of this you can do in three easy steps!

   0. You will need ssh installed on your computer.  

   1. Create a local RSA key:

   $ ssh-keygen

  Follow the prompts, this takes a few seconds as your computer
  gathers entropy from the system.

  You will be asked to supply a passphrase, you can elect to choose
  a null passphrase.  I would recommend you *do* supply a passphrase
  as it provides additional security -- your key is not useful
  without it.  The upside is that you only have to remember this one
  passphrase for all the systems you access via RSA authentication.
  You can change the passhrase later with "ssh-keygen -p".

  This is typically stored in your home directory under
  .ssh/identity.  After doing this, a directory listing of ~/.ssh
  should look like:

-rw---1 karsten  karsten   528 Aug  4 21:37 identity
-rw-r--r--1 karsten  karsten   332 Aug  4 21:03 identity.pub
-rw-r--r--1 karsten  karsten 28106 Jul 26 16:52 known_hosts


   1. Copy the public key "identity.pub" to the hosts you wish to access
  remotely.  You can do this by any method you like, one option is
  to use scp, naming the key to indicate your present host:

  $ scp .ssh/identity.pub [EMAIL PROTECTED]:local-host.ssh

  e.g.:  I might name a key for navel "navel.ssh".


2. Connect to the remote host.  You don't have RSA authentication
   configured yet, so you'll have to use an old method such as
   walking up to the terminal or supplying a password.  Add the new
   hostkey to the file ".ssh/authorized_keys". 

 $ cat local-host.ssh >> .ssh/authorized.keys

   Note the use of *two* right-angles ">" -- this will *add* the
   contents of "local-host.ssh" to a preexisting file, or create the
   file if it already exists.

   Check the permissions of .ssh/authorized keys, it *must* be as
   below or you won't be

Re: changing partiton size

[QBA]

On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 06:24:36PM -0500, ktb wrote:
 
> What's filling the partition up that fast?  Are you running squid or
> something like that?  I've heard people mention the package -- logrotate
> Maybe you could try that?  If you can trim down whatever is taking so
> much space maybe you won't have to resize.
> hth,
> kent
> 
Wwwoffle directory is becoming bigger and bigger. And you were right
I didn't have to resize my partitons. Fortunately I managed to move
wwwoffle to another partition (1GB free) and now I have one problem
less. 
Thanks 4 help,

QBA

ISDN newbie

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I just received a isdn connection at home.
Till now, I've a USR isa modem working great with Linux.
The isdn standard in Brazil is the Europe Standard.
The NT used has a RS232 adaptor and according to the telco, it
has a internal isdn adaptor.
Well, my doubts are: is it possible to use this RS232 to connect
to Linux serial port and then to use ISDN4Linux?
I read the ISDN4Linux faq but as far as I could understand, the
faq deals only with the case where one has and isdn adaptor inside his
PC. That is not my case, yet!
Any pointer, clue, hints are welcome!

Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
   http://www.revistalinux.com.br

Re: Debian or Stormix

[William Jensen]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:37:49PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
> "Ray Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you have been using FreeBSD I would just get Debian and for the
> > same money you would spend on Storm get a good Debian book. Storm
> > hides to much to really learn from IMO.
> 
> Maybe you could elucidate and tell us what exactly Storm Linux hides? I
> have used Debian through several versions and Storm Linux more recently.
> Storm adds a few features which make Linux easier for the beginner or
> someone who just prefers a GUI interface. It offers an easier install
> and adds a bit of gloss to Debian. It removes nothing of a standard
> Debian install - all the usual command line utilities are available. You
> could install Storm and pretend it was Debian and you would be none the
> wiser once you had removed the Storm icons from the stndard KDE or Gnome
> desktop.
> 
> I appreciate that some Linux users prefer a more difficult install
> accompanied by a steep learning curve so if you are one of these you
> will not like Storm Linux ;-)

An advantage of a "steep learning curve" is two-fold.  Number one you get a 
nice confidence boost from the effort it took to learn something new and
challenging.  Second is you actually understand what the system is doing.
For example, if the average RH user's linuxconf no longer worked, could they
change their network from dhcp to static ip?  Could they modify their init
scripts?  Would they even know where to look?  This is why I've reconciled
myself to doing it the 'right' way (imo) and learning the underpinings of
the system instead of relying on tools.  Linux makes me feel ignorant enough,
there is no need to further it by blindly following a tool and not knowing
what it's doing to your system.

Now, on the other hand...if people simply do not care to learn the sytem and
want to be 'up-and-running quick' then RH and their tools are good.

Regards,

Bill

> 
> 
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> Using Storm Linux
> 
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Re: booting with lilo win2k

[William Jensen]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:15:55PM -0400, Arcady Genkin wrote:
> Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would
> overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and
> restored the MBR w/o problems.  However I can't figure out how to
> multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager.  Searching the
> web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot
> menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way.
> 
> Adding the following to lilo.conf:
> ,
> | other = /dev/hda1
> |   label = win


Here's my lilo with debian and win2k

stimpy:/home/jensenb# cat /etc/lilo.conf (apply your information)

lba32 

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda2
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/System.map
delay=0
vga=normal

default=Linux

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
   label=Linux
   read-only

other=/dev/hda3  <-- notice hda3, make sure that yours points to the
label=wincorrect partition..ie is win2k really on hda1?

Regards,

Bill

> `
> doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message "Cannot find NTBF." or
> some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del.
> 
> Is there a clean solution to this problem?  Will I have to reinstall
> Win2K since I hosed its MBR?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers,
> -- 
> Arcady Genkin
> Don't read everything you believe.
> 
> 
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Re: Debian or Stormix

[Phillip Deackes]

William Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> An advantage of a "steep learning curve" is two-fold.  Number one you
> get a 
> nice confidence boost from the effort it took to learn something new
> and
> challenging.  Second is you actually understand what the system is
> doing.
> For example, if the average RH user's linuxconf no longer worked,
> could they
> change their network from dhcp to static ip?  Could they modify their
> init
> scripts?  Would they even know where to look?  This is why I've
> reconciled
> myself to doing it the 'right' way (imo) and learning the underpinings
> of
> the system instead of relying on tools.  Linux makes me feel ignorant
> enough,
> there is no need to further it by blindly following a tool and not
> knowing
> what it's doing to your system.

I happen to agree. The point I was making was that Storm does not deny
the user any of the traditional tools for configuring the system. It
simply supplies additional tools for those who want them. It is about
choice.


-- 
Phillip Deackes
Using Storm Linux

Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[Sven Burgener]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 11:02:45AM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
> > Maybe the software in the distributions is about the same, but the
> > distros themselves sure aren't.

Right.

> Support.  OH yes support. The first time I set up RH (first linux ever) I 
> naturally had some problems and questions.  I bought the retail version so
> I had access to tech support from RH.  The first mail I sent them was a "how
> do you see colors in the directories when you do a ls" type of mail.  The
> reply came 13 days later and said (paraphrase) "I am so and so and I will
> be your grade 3 support technician.  What you asked about is already set
> up and is part of the standard distribution, if it isn't working for you
> then you changed something in your configuration and we are not responsible
> for that."  And that was it.  And there was NO color with ls.

I had a very similar experience with SuSE: first I had a jolly hard time 
getting through their automatic mail supporter to someone "human".

Once there, the supporter told me that the question went beyond their
scope of support. :-!
I don't remember the exact Q I had, but it surely was something newbie-ish.

Anyway, on this list, I'd have gotten a real useful reply in no time.

Regards
Sven
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RE: no telnet in x

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 08-Sep-2000 Jacob Ian Stowell wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am experiencing a strange problem.  I am unable to telnet from X into
> my home computer.  However, what is weird is that I can telnet into home
> from the console.  Also, I can use rlogin from X, and everything works
> fine.  Further, another user can telnet into my home computer, with no
> problem, which tells me that my home computer is not refusing login's. 
> I really have no idea whether the problem is with my work computer or
> with my home computer.  If anyone has some idea as to what the problem
> is, I would appreciate it greatly. 
> 

"can't" is quite vague.  That said, you should be using ssh, not telnet.  If
you have to use telnet for some reason, how about posting the error you get.

telnet sends your password as clear text (i.e. I can read your password).  ssh
does not.

Re: slrnpull failure

[QBA]

On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 01:24:24AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem with slrnpull or to be more precise with its connection
> to ISP. I read file /slrn/slrnpull/QUICK_INSTALL and did all as it is
> written there. So I run my /etc/ppp/ppp-on script to connect to ISP
> (everything goes well as usualy) and when it's done I run slrnpull.
> But all I get is this:
> /usr/sbin/pppd: By default the remote system is required to authentificate
> itself (because this system has a default route to the internet) but I
> couldn't find any suitable secret (password) for it to use to do so.
> (None of the available passwords let it use an IP address).
> But this is only a half of my story (the second half). Because firstly
> I changed two lines in that slrnpull file. In this file there is
> a short script that (as its author says) does: 1. ... ,
> 2. Starts up ppp via a ppp-on script (not provided),
> 3. Runs slrnpull to grap articles from the server, 4  .
> And the script that is to do all this job looks as below:
> if /usr/sbin/ppp-on; then
> $slrnpull -d $dir -h server
> /usr/sbin/ppp-off
> else
>  exit 1
> fi
> Because I don't have anything like /usr/sbin/ppp-on(off) on my RedHat6.2
> I changed this to /etc/ppp/ppp-on(off) (these two scripts I use to
> connect/disconnect to the internet). And the score you already know.
> What did I wrong and what am I to change to run slrnpull without any
> problems? And BTW I set an uid bit to my pppd to be able to run it as
> common user. But now I know that this not too good solution and also
> I know that there are some better ways to do it. Could you tell how
> can I do it to run pppd as secure as possible and without any 
> authentification problems.
> Thank you for hepl in advance,
> 
> QBA
> 
> 
In fact this is not answer to my question but just few minutes ago
I had strange situation that should shed some light to this problem.
Namely when I was online (pppd was running) I typed "pppon" instead of
"pppoff". And guess what response from pppd I got? Exactly the same
as I mentioned before (trying slrnpull - "By default the remote system
is required to ... "). So this means to me that slrnpull must be run
when I'm offline. The problem is that it doesn't want to. When I tried
to run it that way I got note "ERROR: PPP link is not active on ppp0".
Can anyone tell me how to force slrnpull running correctly?
Thank you in advance,

QBA

RE: strange package dependencies

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> So apt wants to replace libesd-alsa0 with libesd0.  But why?  Sure,
> xtux depends on `libesd0 (>= 0.2.14-0.2)' but `libesd-alsa 0.2.17-7'
> which is installed provides `libesd0'.  What is the point in replacing
> `libesd-alsa 0.2.17-7' with `libesd0 0.2.17-7'?
> 

the problem lies in the fact that xtux wants a version of libesd0.  The
libesd-alsa package provides "libesd0", libesd0 packages provides "libesd0
0.2.17-7".  In potato, the "provides" command does not allow for versions.

RE: wxGTK and wxPython debs

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 08-Sep-2000 Johann Spies wrote:
> Does somebody know where I can get debian packages of wxGTK 2.1 and
> wxPython 2.1? 

in woody no?

RE: shared libraries

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

On 08-Sep-2000 Robert Kerr wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm working at compiling a program under slink and keep getting the error
> (when trying to run it) that it can't find the
> libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3.  Of course, that happens for a very good
> reason--the version on slink is libc6.0.  How can I find out what part of
> my code is referencing that library?  ldd tells me that the executable is
> trying to reference it, but nothing more than that.
> 

the culprit is the libstdc++.so.  It links to that I bet.

Re: ISDN newbie

[dirk]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:27:08PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
> 
> 
>   Well, my doubts are: is it possible to use this RS232 to connect
> to Linux serial port and then to use ISDN4Linux?

I don't think so. I had an external  dynalink ISDN modem for some time
but I just used wvdial for it. 

>   I read the ISDN4Linux faq but as far as I could understand, the
> faq deals only with the case where one has and isdn adaptor inside his
> PC. That is not my case, yet!

When I used this dynalink thing I didn't find out how to use
some ISDN utils with it. For the computer it is just another
external modem. Now I have an internal modem and that works
a bit different. (better) Anyway, AFAIK you can't do ISDN
things with this external modem. But I am not an expert on
this. I only know that the internal modem is a lot easier to
use (after some configuration startup problems)

Dirk

RE: laptop

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

there is a list: debian-laptop.  Just like debian-user but for laptop issues.

Re: Potato splitvt not working

[Joey Hess]

Wayne Topa wrote:
> Followup to my own message.  I received the 2.2 CD's today and did an
> apt-get --fix-broken --show-upgraded dist-upgrade on another debian 2.1
> box.  Splitvt works fine on this box.
> 
> The box the orignal problem showed up on was upgrades with just an
> apt-get upgrade.

What version did you have installed before, then? I assume you have
version 1.6.3-7.1 installed now?


-- 
see shy jo

Re: Netscape Tar.gz files

[QBA]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:54:02PM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
> Hi:
> 
>  I am finding it difficult to lacate the netscape binaries to install
>  the Navigator or communicator from ftp.netscape.com. I was in
>  particular interested in 4.73 but there are not binaries at the site.
>  Can somebody please point me to a useful site where these can be
>  found.
> 
>  Thanks.

Try http://freshmeat.net. Use search engine (type just "netscape") and
feel free for choosing what you're looking for.

QBA

Re: OFFTOPIC attn list admin: Debian.org in the RBL?

[kmself]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:28:46PM +, Pollywog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am surprised to find that posts from the list are being rejected this
> morning.  I have added debian.org to my rbl_exept list to get around this
> problem.
> 
> Does anyone know what is going on?

Hmmm:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:karsten]$ rblcheck 216.234.231.6
not RBL filtered by rbl.maps.vix.com
not RBL filtered by relays.orbs.org

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Re: Debian VS. Red Hat

[csj]

"unlike rpm which you need to compile rpm to access a .rpm."

I think not. I managed to open an .rpm using the Gnome file manager in a
debian-based installation. An .rpm appears to be a cpio archive. Correct me,
folks, if this is misinformation.

Besides, you can always "alien"-ate an .rpm

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Ethan Benson wrote:
> 
> On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:58:45PM -0700, John L . Fjellstad wrote:
> [snip]
> > distributions can't start using debs.  Heck, every major version of
> > RPM is incompatible with previous version anyways. Reason I switched is
> > because the RPM used in 6.x (v3.x) can't read packages for 7 (v4).
> > Now, I don't know how hard it to change the database, but from what I
> > understand, both debs and rpms use text based database, so it shouldn't
> > be impossible.
> 
> nope, rpm uses a binary database for everything, and a custom
> fileformat.  deb uses a text database (which is trivial to change, and
> extend, debian has done this many times already with no real break in
> compatiblity) .debs are also nothing special, just an ar archive of
> two .tar.gz files.  you can extract a .deb on any platform that has
> ar, tar and gzip.  unlike rpm which you need to compile rpm to access
> a .rpm. 
> 
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Re: vga-alike x11 font wanted

[Massimo Dal Zotto]

> hi there,
> 
> i found two fonts, which partly meet the criteria:
> * vga - this one looks good and has the right proportions, but has a
> wrong encoding (pc437) for a west-european xterm, so umlauts, etc.
> are messed up.
> * -etl-fixed-bold-r-normal--16-160-72-72-c-80-iso8859-1 - it has the right
> proportions and the right encoding (iso8859-1), but it looks awful.
> 
> so my question is: does anybody know a 8x16 font with iso8859-1 encoding
> and a vga-alike look?
> 
> regards

http://boogie.cs.unitn.it/dz/debian/packages/xvgafont_1.0_all.deb

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Re: booting with lilo win2k

[Dean]

Hi Arcady:
 Does lilo show up on the screen while booting? If so hit shift 
to stop automatic boot-up. Then hit tab to see what choices are
available. hth   Dean

Arcady Genkin wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I had to install Win2000; while I suspected that it would
> overwrite the MBR (where lilo lives), I had a boot floppy ready and
> restored the MBR w/o problems.  However I can't figure out how to
> multiboot into it using LILO as my main boot manager.  Searching the
> web produced some suggestions on adding linux into the W2K's boot
> menu, but I would prefer to stick with lilo all the way.
> 
> Adding the following to lilo.conf:
> ,
> | other = /dev/hda1
> |   label = win
> `
> doesn't seem to cut it; I get an error message "Cannot find NTBF." or
> some such, after which the only optoin is C-A-Del.
> 
> Is there a clean solution to this problem?  Will I have to reinstall
> Win2K since I hosed its MBR?
> 
> Thanks for any pointers,
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> 
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Re: Debian or Stormix

[kmself]

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:38:17PM -0500, William Jensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:

> An advantage of a "steep learning curve" is two-fold.  Number one you get a 
> nice confidence boost from the effort it took to learn something new and
> challenging.  Second is you actually understand what the system is doing.

I phrase this succinctly:

Linux may have a steep learning curve, but it's got a high payoff
function.

Right to quote freely granted.

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Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?

[Thomas Hood]

I suggest that you check out the "noflushd" daemon
in the woody archive.

Thomas Hood

Re: ISDN newbie

[C. Falconer]

Is there the potential for a winmodem-style ISDN adapter?

I mean, an internal PC device that looks like a modem/ISDN adapter, but 
uses a special windows driver to do its processing... is it feasable?


At 11:17 PM 9/11/00 +0200, you wrote:

On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 03:27:08PM -0300, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote:
>   Well, my doubts are: is it possible to use this RS232 to connect
> to Linux serial port and then to use ISDN4Linux?

I don't think so. I had an external  dynalink ISDN modem for some time
but I just used wvdial for it.

>   I read the ISDN4Linux faq but as far as I could understand, the
> faq deals only with the case where one has and isdn adaptor inside his
> PC. That is not my case, yet!

When I used this dynalink thing I didn't find out how to use
some ISDN utils with it. For the computer it is just another
external modem. Now I have an internal modem and that works
a bit different. (better) Anyway, AFAIK you can't do ISDN
things with this external modem. But I am not an expert on
this. I only know that the internal modem is a lot easier to
use (after some configuration startup problems)




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muttzilla

[Dale Morris]

I'm trying to get muttzilla to work with netscape. I'm running version
4.75, and slocate shows I have libc6 in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6,
when I click on a mail-to url, nothing happens. Anyone have this
working? I've checked, but there's no man page for muttzilla.

thanks
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