System sees only 65M of memory
I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram. However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65 M of memory. I have tried to use the append command mem=768M but it still sees only 65 M? Does anyone have any ideas? -- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834
XF68_FBDev
Hi, I just got matroxfb working correctly and noticed that there is a frame buffer console x server called XF68_FBDev. Has anyone used this in Debian? If so are there any screenshots that show what it looks like? I am very interested to see what it can do. thanks = --- Academia is a little like child | Parrish M. Myers rearing, it provides a chance at | The Wacked Jester immortality without the stretch | [EMAIL PROTECTED] marks -- (unknown source)| --- __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: PGP and Mutt
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:57:44PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, 8 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > If it helps, my .muttrc is attached. Note that I've got gpg, not > > pgp, installed. I'd recommend you use the same. There is only one > > tag in my muttrc which appears relevant, that's the "pgp_autosign" > > hook. > > > > I've got a bit of a followup question. It's regarding verifying or > decrypting signed or encrypted messages. I'm having a horrible time > getting valid signatures from messages that are signed by mutt's > built-in gpg/pgp support. > > Say I'm using one of the many mailers that doesn't support gpg > integration, so I need to save the message and key to disk and use gpg > manually to check the signatures. What parts of the message are > signed, though??? for example, in Karsten's email, there were 3 > message sections: the text, the attached .muttrc, and the gpg sig. The signature applies to the entire contents, including attachments, of the message. So you have verification that I was the person who wrote and signed all parts of the mail. Makes more sense that way, no? > So I save the message and key to my home dir, download the key, and > run gpg on the key. It asks me for the file name, which I provide. > To this it responds that they signature is invalid. Hmm... The entire message or just the text? > I've been trying to send myself signed message with the same results. > I've read mutt's included docs, which didn't help me at all. Have you > got any suggestions??? > > I must say, the old style of handling pgp/gpg with the inline sigs and > stuff worked much better for me. What are the advantages of sending > the key as an attachment instead of inline? Well, as an example, a signed message with MIME components shows up as signed, and I'm told that the signature is valid and known, the sig is valid but unknown, or that the signature is invalid. Automajickally. For your message, I have to pipe the mail through GPG to verify it, eg: in mutt: | # mutt -- pipe message gpg --verify -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpNdYvLdxxWW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram. > However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65 > M of memory. I have tried to use the append command > > mem=768M > > but it still sees only 65 M? > > Does anyone have any ideas? Where are you applying the append command -- at the LILO boot prompt or in /etc/lilo.conf? If in lilo.conf, have you re-run lilo? -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpyYxXo9Zg1v.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Editing and storing encrypted files
Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: > " Convert all text to encrypted text before writing > autocmd BufWritePre,FileWritePre*.gpg '[,']!gpg -e -r Wouter 2> > /dev/null Or slightly more portable, s/-r Wouter/--default-recipient-self/ I like to add a -a too, YMMV. Nice hack to avoid the temp files, BTW. :-) -- see shy jo
Re: XF68_FBDev
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:20:10PM -0700, Parrish M Myers wrote: > Hi, > > I just got matroxfb working correctly and noticed that there is a frame > buffer console x server called XF68_FBDev. Has anyone used this in > Debian? If so are there any screenshots that show what it looks like? > I am very interested to see what it can do. For the matrox, you probably don't want to use it: you'll lose your acceleration for no real gain. It's very useful for certain unsupported video cards that are VESA2 compliant: they can use a the VESA framebuffer and get X running without resorting to atrocities like 640x480x16. It looks like, well, X. -- Brian Moore | Of course vi is God's editor. Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day. Netscum, Bane of Elves.
Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 06:15:25PM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > You might also try: > > $ man foo | col -b > > ...to output straight ascii. Thanks, that's simple and nice. Regards Sven -- The UNIX Guru's view of sex: unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount sleep
Extreme disappointment. :(
Hello all, I have been using Linux for about 3 years including OpenBSD for about 1 year, so I hope that the problems I'm having with Debian 2.2 Potato are not due to my ignorance. After reading great things about Debian, and a 2.2 kernel version finally coming out as "stable" on CD from my local Linux shoppe, I was very excited to request it on CDR as my birthday present from my girlfriend. Unfortunately, during install, I was getting many errors. I noticed Emacs19 gets "future timestamp" errors, gnome dependency errors, eventually an error stating something along the lines of "E.Sub Process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error (1) some errors occurred while unpacking", plus many errors scroll past too quickly to note, eventually the install comes to a message stating "Packages failed to install, retry?". Once I had it "installed", I fired up X and got into Enlightenment which promptly seg faulted! I know E is not the most reliable wm, but in Mandrake 7.0 I have never had it seg fault, there were other X errors causing X to die back to the console. At install, I noticed that what looks like an md5 sum (when CD1 is requested) states "bad-1" at the end, reinforcing my belief that CD1 could be corrupt. Can someone tell me how to check the CD so that I can prove to myself and the shop I bought it from that a replacement is required? Many thanks, Bye for now.
Re: how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
Attila Csosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like to turn off the line wrappping (xemacs truncates the long lines at > the end of line). I think this is the variable 'auto-fill-mode' but I > can't turn it off. How to turn it off? I am not sure that I understand what you mean. Auto-fill-mode generates automatically splits a line that is longer than the value of parameter "fill-column". Emacs actually splits the line in the text file. The last word of the line, that sticks out, becomes the first word of the new line. This feature can be toggled on/off with the command "M-x auto-fill-mode". If auto-fill mode is on, the word "fill" appears omn the black status-line under the text. To turn auto-fill on automatically for my emacs 19.34, I have the following line in my ".emacs": (setq text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill) But maybe, you refer to the way that the editor handles lines that are too long to be displayed in the editor's window. My emacs displays those lines wrapped, but does not necessarily split the line in the text file. A backslash character indicates that the line is continued on the next line. I don't know how to alter this behaviour. Paul Huygen
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Shane Pearson wrote: > > Hello all, > > I have been using Linux for about 3 years including OpenBSD for about 1 year, > so I hope that the problems I'm having with Debian 2.2 Potato are not due to > my ignorance. After reading great things about Debian, and a 2.2 kernel > version finally coming out as "stable" on CD from my local Linux shoppe, I > was very excited to request it on CDR as my birthday present from my > girlfriend. > > Unfortunately, during install, I was getting many errors. I noticed Emacs19 > gets "future timestamp" errors, gnome dependency errors, eventually an error > stating something along the lines of "E.Sub Process /usr/bin/dpkg returned > an error (1) some errors occurred while unpacking", plus many errors scroll > past too quickly to note, eventually the install comes to a message stating > "Packages failed to install, retry?". > > Once I had it "installed", I fired up X and got into Enlightenment which > promptly seg faulted! I know E is not the most reliable wm, but in Mandrake > 7.0 I have never had it seg fault, there were other X errors causing X to die > back to the console. > > At install, I noticed that what looks like an md5 sum (when CD1 is requested) > states "bad-1" at the end, reinforcing my belief that CD1 could be corrupt. > > Can someone tell me how to check the CD so that I can prove to myself and the > shop I bought it from that a replacement is required? first, please wrap your lines at a reasonable length, even using 1600x1200 i still have to scroll to the right by 2-3 screens to see all of your text! second, check the Packages/Packages.gz files they contain md5sums for all the packages, it is very very likely you have a bad cd. i have(along with many others im sure) installed many potato systems without problems like this. i strongly reccomend ditching the CD-R'd copy and getting a real, pressed copy. even the copies i make on my own CD-R(i have used about 6 different models/drives) do not work in all drives, only works in some(does not work in more then it works in, same goes for all other cds i burn not just debian) I am not sure how to automatically verify the md5sums. good luck getting a good copy of (anything) on CD-R. if you do return it, get a pressed cd for best results. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Sorry about the long line lengths and blank message. I am emailing from telnet in Win98 (unfortunately). 'mail' is'nt very friendly as you know compared with a fuller featured... Anyway, the store I bought the CD's from do not yet carry pressed Potsatoes. I noticed that fsck /cdrom reveals the possibility of fsck.iso9660, so do you know where I can get that version of fsck? It is not installed by default. Thanks.
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Of course I could always press return... :) sorry again./
Re: Gnome/X stuff
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 11:36:52PM -0400, Mark Simos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Somewhat OT, but reasonably close to this posting > > Is there a doc somewhere that describes window managers, display > managers, etc. and how they interact with each other, X, and X > programs? I am windows person and not too familiar with the extra > layer of separation / interaction that X allows for in the GUI. I have > no problem doing the old fashioned RTFM, I just don't know which FM to > R :) There's the XWindow User HOWTO, try poking around in /usr/doc/HOWTO or http://www.linuxdoc.org/. This is a bit old-fashioned, but describes the fundamental layers of X to the windowmanager level. For an explanation of what Gnome and KDE do, I'd suggest visiting the appropriate websites: http://www.gnome.org/ and http://www.kde.org/. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpvXHrf9A2Vs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Gnome/X stuff
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 01:02:30AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hey, > Sorry about the block of text. Last night I had all sorts of this > and that to stay awake, since I need to finish the Odyssey for school > before it starts. Anyway, I didn'y get to sleep until 6:00ish, so I'm > still a little out of it. Nada. Now if you'll wrap lines at 72 and reply to list, we'll be famous. > For starting Gnome I'm just using 'startx' because I've worked > gnome and my window manager into the Xsession file. What I have is > something like: > > gmc & > & > panel > exit > > That's not exactly right, the exit line I can't remember right > now, but I did it out of a book so it should be fine. Actually, you don't need the exit, though it won't hurt. You'll execute 'panel', then exit when it closes. > So that's how I've been starting Gnome though. And I pulled the panel > command out when I was using icewm. > > As for when I said session manager, I meant to say session save. > Basically the whole bit that let's you start back up to your desktop > just as you logged out of it. Right. I don't do Gnome (actually, just started messing with it for the first time in months tonight). > As for the menu package, that's what I was missing, thanks for > that. The sawfish package I did search for just as you said, but it > didn't turn up, so I guess Linux Central didn't put it on the set. Is > it new? I hadn't heard about it until this morning when someone said > it worked well with Gnome without overlapping features. sawfish was recently renamed from sawmill. You might try looking at it from there. > I did look at /etc/init.d/README, but it pointed me toward getting > the debian-policy package and reading section 3.3 on run levels. I > found a lot of info there, but it was so broad that I really had > trouble getting what I needed to know. When you're setting programs > to run or not at boot (specifically X), is it a matter a moving files > around or more of a command line option type thing? Here's the short answer: - Various runlevels are specified in /etc/inittab. This tells you what level your system starts at (initdefault). - The directories /etc/rc?.d contain scripts starting S[0-9]* and K[0-9]*, which are symlinks to files in /etc/init.d/. The 'S' scripts are started, the K scripts are stopped, when entering a runlevel. - You can modify these scripts with the /usr/sbin/update-rc.d script. > I found easily the files associated with X in init.d and various > run-level folders, I just don't know what to do with them. I'm new at > Linux, and I know I should really just shut up and read more, which I > have been doing, though I'm going to boarding school tomorrow and I'm > really trying to get everything up as quickly as possible. If you want to run the services, leave them be. If you don't want to, remove the packages for now. You may find that you want to look at configuring them various ways later, it's probably too much detail for you now. -- Karsten M. Self http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpRV52pEGFey.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian 2.2 or woody
Hi, I'm going to install a new debian system at home (as I commented in some other messages)... but I'm now wondering if installing the 2.2 or woody version... Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are not the "latest" versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome, etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture. Any good reasons to use one or another? If not, I'm going to install woody as I've always done... :) Bye! -- Do you really think win is easy to use? --- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Running Debian GNU/Linux woody ---
Re: how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:13:43AM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: > But maybe, you refer to the way that the editor handles lines that are > too long to be displayed in the editor's window. My emacs displays > those lines wrapped, but does not necessarily split the line in the > text file. A backslash character indicates that the line is > continued on the next line. I don't know how to alter this behaviour. Just easy: enable the hscroll-mode and you will be able to scroll the screen horitzontaly. For me, it's annoying, but try it yourself. Bye! THIS LIST IS ABOUT DEBIAN. > > > Paul Huygen > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Juli-Manel Merino Vidal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
Ethernet trouble
Seeking help using a network card in a PC. The card is a Linksys Etherfast 10/100 LAN card. The PC is a 'home-built' machine, using an Asus P3V4X motherboard. BIOS is "Award Medallion BIOS v6.0". Debian is as installed from the 2.2 official CDs, plus a custom kernel in case it helped - no difference I can tell, the details below are while using the custom kernel. All help welcome, and I'd be happy to give more details. Nick Here is result of "modprobe tulip": /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o failed /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed Here is result of "lspci": 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] (rev c4) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] 00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Apollo PRO] (rev 23) 00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 11) 00:04.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3050 (rev 30) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Bridgecom, Inc: Unknown device 0985 (rev 11) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X (rev 5c) Here is result of "cat /proc/pci": PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 196). Vendor id=1106. Device id=691. Medium devsel. Master Capable. No bursts. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe400 [0xe408]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C598 Apollo MVP3 AGP (rev 0). Medium devsel. Master Capable. No bursts. Min Gnt=8. Bus 0, device 4, function 0: ISA bridge: VIA Technologies VT 82C596 Apollo Pro (rev 35). Medium devsel. Master Capable. No bursts. Bus 0, device 4, function 1: IDE interface: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo IDE (rev 16). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xb800 [0xb801]. Bus 0, device 4, function 2: USB Controller: VIA Technologies VT 82C586 Apollo USB (rev 17). Medium devsel. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=32. I/O at 0xb400 [0xb401]. Bus 0, device 4, function 3: Host bridge: VIA Technologies Unknown device (rev 48). Vendor id=1106. Device id=3050. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Bus 0, device 11, function 0: Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 17). Vendor id=1317. Device id=985. Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=32. Min Gnt=255.Max Lat=255. I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe100 [0xe100]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: ATI Mach64 GB (rev 92). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=8. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe200 [0xe200]. I/O at 0xd800 [0xd801]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe180 [0xe180]. Here is result of "dmesg": Linux version 2.2.17 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)) #1 Sun Sep 10 10:59:47 PDT 2000 Detected 805649 kHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 1608.91 BogoMIPS Memory: 257992k/262080k available (848k kernel code, 416k reserved, 2788k data, 36k init) Dentry hash table entries: 32768 (order 6, 256k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 262144 (order 8, 1024k) Page cache hash table entries: 65536 (order 6, 256k) CPU: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 03 Checking 386/387 coupling... OK, FPU using exception 16 error reporting. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xf0890 PCI: Using configuration type 1 PCI: Probing PCI hardware PCI: 00:20 [1106/0596]: Work around ISA DMA hangs (00) Activating ISA DMA hang workarounds. Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0. NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 262144 bhash 65536) Starting kswapd v 1.5 Detected PS/2 Mouse Port. Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A pty: 256 Unix98 ptys configured VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later ide0: BM-DMA at 0xb800-0xb807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xb808-0xb80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5, ATA DISK drive hdc: CD-ROM Drive/F5A, ATAPI CDROM drive ide0
replace chars in filenames?
Hi! As I have had trouble with netatalk's character set, I have many filenames containing nonsense-chars (resulting from non-translated German Umlaute). So I have to find strings as :8a and replace them with a char (ä). Is it possible to do this with "find" ? Thank You, CU, Lars. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 05:59:38PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:
> Thanks for the tip about hdparm -Y, looks like I had an old manpage sitting
> around.. OK, so I'm doing three things now in /etc/apm/event.d.
> One is 00hwclock (comes with apm). The second is
> xset dpms force suspend (this turns off the monitor if I type it by hand,
> for some reason it does nothing when the script runs it, although both
> are running as root (I think) and I do set the DISPLAY before running
> it in the script! The third is /sbin/hdparm -Y /dev/hda. Here's what
> the logs say when I type apm -s.
>
> Sep 8 17:50:11 mi apmd[1744]: User Suspend
> Sep 8 17:50:13 mi kernel: apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state
> Sep 8 17:50:18 mi kernel: apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state
> Sep 8 17:50:21 mi kernel: hda: irq timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> Sep 8 17:50:23 mi kernel: apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state
> Sep 8 17:50:24 mi kernel: ide0: reset: master: error (0x00?)
>
> What happens is, the disk shuts down (woo!), the screen fails to blank
> (suck..)
> and about two seconds later the disk, and everything else, starts up
> again. Any ideas? -chris
I've tryied to add the hdparm script in /etc/apm/suspend.d... the disk
shut down, but in a while wake up another time. I think it's because
the disk is powered down, but apm hasn't still finished it's job (it
runs the scripts, but has to do something else later), so it has to
access the drive another time... Don't know how to solve. Any ideas???
Thanks.
>
> On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Julio Merino wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 09:27:56AM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote:
> >
> > > > Try installing the apm daemon (apmd), but I think it won't do these
> > > > things.
> > >
> > > Yeah I got the apm daemon, it's the debian/unstable version though, maybe
> > > I should get the latest sources?
> >
> > Don't know. apmd (as I know) is able to suspend and standby the
> > computer, but I don't notice any difference between both options.
> >
> > >
> > > > > The apm options I've configured are:
> > > > >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > >
> > > > Ok, very close to my configuration... But when I simply suspend and I
> > > > try to reuse my computer, it COMPLETLY hangs.
> > >
> >
> > Correction: it randomly hangs. I remember that the last time I tried
> > this it "worked". I listened my computer beeping three times, but it
> > only closed the screen...
> >
> > > What's your configuration?
> >
> > CONFIG_APM=y
> > # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set
> > # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set
> > # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set
> > CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK=y
> > CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_SUSPEND_BOUNCE=y
> > CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT=y
> > # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set
> > # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set
> >
> > I'm running on an Asus P2L97 AGP motherboard, with PII processor.
> >
> > >
> > > When I type apm -s, one of two things happens:
> > >
> > > - The command pauses briefly, then decides to ignore me and returns to
> > > the command prompt.
> >
> > Doesn't happened to me.
> >
> > >
> > > - The system does indeed seem to stop. But the machine doesn't sound any
> > > quieter. The fan is still going and the hd's probably also.
> >
> > That's what happens to me... It shuts down the screen, but disks and
> > fans are still working...
> >
> > >
> > > > I tried to stop a drive (not the root linux one) and then I was unable
> > > > to wake it up and the system crashed...
> > >
> > > How did you try to do it? I've got /usr/sbin/hdparm -S 60 /dev/hda
> >
> > I think I did: hdparm -Y /dev/hdb
> > and I listened how the drive went down. But another time: I was unable
> > to wake it up again.
> >
> > > in /etc/rc.boot/ and the machine hasn't hung yet; then again I haven't
> > > really
> > > noticed the HD stopping either. Is there a test program which will
> > > stop the HD right away?
> > >
> > > In other news, my machine was hanging like crazy yesterday morning,
> > > but maybe this is because I was trying out the 2.4-test7 kernel and
> > > acpi.
> >
> > Don't know... I still use 2.2.16.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > >
> > > -chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
> >
> > --
> > Juli-Manel Merino Vidal
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Homepage: http://jmmv.cjb.net
> >
>
>
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Re: /etc/rc.boot (new Q: 'outputting' manpage)
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sven Burgener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How do I properly print out the contents of a manpage? The printer should have no problems with manpages. And if you use 'man -t blabla' you even get nice postscript output. >When I do ":r! man blabla" in vi, I get funny characters at some places. >Using man's --ascii option didn't help. If you mean you want to have plain text output, use man blabla | col -b Mike. -- Deadlock, n.: Deceased rastaman.
Re: German keys on console
I never had to set those (locale environment variables) to get the german keyboard to work (I set them to get german messages, though), but it's quiet interesting to know more about internals. My question is now: When you are prompted to choose a keyboard, you could suppose it working after the selection, why to choose then, if it doesn't influence the behaviour of the keyboard at all? If you choose a non-US keymap, the appropriate LC-variable (the charmap?) should be set too, shouldn't it? PS: I hope it worked for you, Peter, à propos, I saw there are german and keyboard-How-To's at www.linuxdoc.org > That's got nothing to do with the keymap (which is fine.) > > Two things are important: > > 1) in /etc/inputrc set 'convert-meta off' must be uncommented >(it maybe by default in 2.2r1, it wasn't in tc3. The metakey > still works fine, BTW) > > 2) The environment variable 'LANG' must be set to, i.e., 'de_DE', >which also lets > > LC_CTYPE(the culprit) > LC_NUMERIC > LC_TIME > LC_COLLATE > LC_MONETARY > LC_MESSAGES > > default to 'de_DE'. If you're like me you'll like to override > at least LC_MESSAGES back to 'en_US'. > > HTH > > Christian -- (Dr.) Michael Hummel mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fprint = F24D EAC6 E3D7 372C 9122 D510 EB24 01CA 0B56 B518 key: http://www.seitung.net/key pgppTGXFgOmFk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ethernet trouble
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:50:20AM -0700, Nick Willson wrote: > Here is result of "modprobe tulip": > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy > Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including > invalid IO or IRQ parameters > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o failed > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed Are you sure your card works with the tulip-module? If yes, try the "old_tulip" module instead of "tulip" during kernel-configuration. > hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLP LM20.5, 19595MB w/1900kB Cache, CHS=2498/255/63 > hdc: ATAPI 48X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache Looks like you have not activated UDMA. Have a look at #man hdparm Phil
Re: Debian 2.2 or woody
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:41:43PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: > Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the > unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are > not the "latest" versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome, > etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this > from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that > will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture. Depends on your system. If it is just a workstation at home with no important servers running on it and you can live with the fact that you are running an "unstable" system then I don't see any problems of getting new woody-packages. Phil
Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 05:59:38PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Sep 8 17:50:11 mi apmd[1744]: User Suspend > Sep 8 17:50:13 mi kernel: apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state I get the exact message. I am sure it is a BIOS problem here. Did you enable APM in your BIOS? What does /proc/apm say? > What happens is, the disk shuts down (woo!), the screen fails to blank > (suck..) > and about two seconds later the disk, and everything else, starts up > again. Any ideas? -chris Well, the disk starts again, if it has to read or write something. Maybe your system is swapping and that causes the disk to start up? BTW: Please wrap your lines after 68-70 columns. And write _below_ the qouted stuff, just qoute the important things. Thanks Phil
.tar [Rookie question]
I want to update Netscape Communicator to 4.75.. I've downloaded the .tar.gz file.. I ran the tar command that extracted the files [thinking it would be like an .exe file in Mr Gate's OS].. My question is: what do I do next??... = Shel [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ- 23454126 AIM- CacheMonet Trying to master Storm Linux 2000 http://www.stormix.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: .tar [Rookie question]
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 04:45:06AM -0700, Shel Johnson wrote: > > I want to update Netscape Communicator to 4.75.. I've downloaded the > .tar.gz file.. I ran the tar command that extracted the files [thinking it > would be like an .exe file in Mr Gate's OS].. My question is: what do I do > next??... > Next you must read README and INSTALL files. There you will find all infos you need to install and configure your program. But remember - read these files with great attention. Installing tarballs (*tar.gz files) on linux isn't as easy as clicking on setup.exe in winshit. QBA
Re: [SLU] .tar [Rookie question]
Shel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want to update Netscape Communicator to 4.75.. I've downloaded the > .tar.gz file.. I ran the tar command that extracted the files > [thinking it > would be like an .exe file in Mr Gate's OS].. My question is: what do > I do next??... You forget that download and fetch Netscape correctly using apt-get install. On the command line do 'apt-get update' then, when that has finished, do 'apt-get install communicator' and after a while you will have Netscape Communicator installed on your system. Always check for a Debian version of any software you want - only use a tar.gz version if you absolutely must or need to. -- Phillip Deackes Using Storm Linux
Re: how to turn off auto-fill-mode in XEmacs21?
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:21:36PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: I'm beginner using xemacs. How to turn this mode on? So, i don't want 'auto-fill-mode', I'd like a horizontal scrollbar in XEmacs under X-Window to see the long lines. Thanks Attila > On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 11:13:43AM +0200, Paul Huygen wrote: > > > But maybe, you refer to the way that the editor handles lines that are > > too long to be displayed in the editor's window. My emacs displays > > those lines wrapped, but does not necessarily split the line in the > > text file. A backslash character indicates that the line is > > continued on the next line. I don't know how to alter this behaviour. > > Just easy: enable the hscroll-mode and you will be able to scroll the > screen horitzontaly. For me, it's annoying, but try it yourself. > > Bye! > > THIS LIST IS ABOUT DEBIAN. > > > > > > > Paul Huygen > > -- -- - Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian 2.2 Linux / 2.2.13 / exim- - Get my PGP key: gpg --keyserver keys.pgp.com --recv-key 0x2cc33acb -
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
At 11:45 PM 9/8/00 -0700, John L . Fjellstad wrote: >On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 12:05:32PM -0500, Wayne Sitton wrote: >> OK guys, I think you've gotten off the subject that I needed. Although >> what you have given me is great, what I need now is kind of like stories >> of thing that have happened to show why Debian would be better. Or, >> even links to stories about the benefits of Debian over Red Hat. > >I always found this kind of zealotry interesting. > >Preface: I've used RedHat for over 4 years. Just installed Debian >last month, and I'm really happy with it. > >From what I have seen since this thread started, IMHO, is that a lot of RH users that have switched to Debian enjoy Debian more. Now this might be geek like, or gump like I'm not sure, but what it seems to me is it's the D&D approach to role playing. They start with D&D, and some stay with it for ever, but most move on to other game systems, because D&D is either lacking, or it's to finite, and the users want more thus move to other systems. I prefer to think of Debian like the Linux version of GRUPS. :) Which also goes back to Wayne's comment on RH being better because it's more popular. R H, like D&D has better marketing droids working for it, no offence intended to anyone on here that does marketing. It's more widely known because it's out there on the front line screaming, and that screaming is what brings people into it. Chris Jenks Ok, I go away now.
Re: Debian for kids
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 12:27:06PM -0300, Leonardo Dutra wrote: :Hi, : :Somebody would know to say me where can find information about the Debian for :kids project ? : :I would like to install it so that my son uses Linux since small :) There is some info on the debian.org web site (under projects I think), and a mailing list. I haven't had the time to really follow what they've been doing (much less contribute to the effort), however I have two children (ages 2.5 and 4.5) who've been using Debian for some time already. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you may have. -Jon
Re: PGP and Mutt
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Re: kde or gnome?
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 09:49:49AM +0518, USM Bish wrote: > Just a small clarification sought : > What exactly is meant by Gnome or KDE compliance ? > > Is it the capability of running Gnome or KDE apps ? No. Window managers don't run apps, they just manage the way they are placed on the screen etc. As long as the right libraries are on your system, you can run Gnome/KDE apps under any window manager. In fact, you can run any X app with *no* window manager: you can get xinit to run a single X app in the same way that windows can be set to run a single program instead of Windows Explorer. Compliance with Gnome or KDE means that a wm can detect and comply with the "hints" that the desktop environment gives, signals which tell a window manager how to behave so that it is acting in sync with all the bloatware that Gnome and KDE run. -- Bruce I see a mouse. Where? There, on the stair. And its clumsy wooden footwear makes it easy to trap and kill. -- Harry Hill
Re: Debian 2.2 or woody
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 12:41:43PM +0200, Julio Merino wrote: > Hi, > > I'm going to install a new debian system at home (as I commented in > some other messages)... but I'm now wondering if installing the 2.2 or > woody version... I can't give you a definitive answer since I've only been using Debian since potato came out. But I've converted my home machine from RH to Debian and have needed to upgrade a few things beyond potato to get some important (to me) features that aren't in the potato versions of some apps. The reason to use potato is stability. You know that the system has been tested as a whole, not just as an assortment of apps. If you keep up with the updates then the system should actually get more stable with time. If you don't value that, go ahead and use woody all over but you know that'll be a constantly shifting surface to stand on. You don't lose out on the security front by using potato since the Debian maintainers back-propagate security/bug fixes. So far I've had no problems with the bits I've added from woody, though I've been compiling from the source packages. Compiling from source not only lets me do any personal config I need but also avoids the problems that would be caused by a binary compiled on a woody system with minor differences in set-up to a potato system. And if there were a major incompatibility, the compilation process will fail meaningfully, in a way that tells me what I might do to fix it. The binary would likely just core dump. -- Bruce Remember you're a Womble.
debian-user-digest down?
I've not received the debian-user-digest or debian-devl-digest for the last couple of days. Is anyone else having this problem? Please respond to my email address, as I can't see it otherwise. Thanks
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 10:00:04AM -0500, Bryan K. Walton wrote: :This is a general question for the list. I have a computer at home that I want to make availble for the family to use. However I want to try and ensure that they won't be able to do anything that could cause damage to the OS. What is the list's thoughts regarding what should I make sure is off-limits to the users. If they don't have root, are there things that I should make off-limits that might not be on a stock Debian 2.2 system? If they're not actively trying to exceed their permissions... The worst they can do is hit the power button (you can easily disconnect this internaly on most modern computers) The second worst thing is that they can take up all the space in /home. You can implement quatas or make a separate partition for /home/mp3-loving-relative. If they are trying to get root an have physical access to the box for get about it, one floppy will get me root on any x86 Linux box I have physial access to. -Jon -- # include As a sysadmin in an environment where users have root on their workstations, they can change the root password and then graduate leaving behind a box noone has root on.
Re: Gnome/X stuff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- You might want to check out http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ for a pretty good overview of what's available and what the features of various window managers and desktop environments are. It seems to do a pretty good job of covering the options; I'm not sure what level of detail they get into. noah On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Mark Simos wrote: > Somewhat OT, but reasonably close to this posting > > Is there a doc somewhere that describes window managers, display > managers, etc. and how they interact with each other, X, and X > programs? > I am windows person and not too familiar with the extra layer of > separation / interaction that X allows for in the GUI. I have no > problem doing the old fashioned RTFM, I just don't know which FM to R > :) ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObuZQ4dCcpBjGWoFAQFTyAP/YrQNa73prykh3yRxg8nWFI1+UyKy8zXQ 2oY3buLOy/kRUohvtle/tk0g2CasJhnPBoEkCAM5XVyfnXZONgBdAZRpfgnVoyGq elim6xX1UmVgUpc/BF/Ik1lt+c8mzt/0m1o6r2dBe8+yj8wvs8Y6Umsej6uo659x RpxHAVMM8dw= =oryx -END PGP SIGNATURE-
stale/defunt sessions in debian
Is the following a product of how debian sets up the system or is it a kernel deal or what... If I telnet to my home box remotely, then just kill the session instead of logging out it often leaves that connection up in my ps even though I know it's gone. Who cleans those types of things up? Is there anything that debian or linux in geneal does to clean stale things up? Bill pgpEBGHZM4qEj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP and Mutt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Say I'm using one of the many mailers that doesn't support gpg > > integration, so I need to save the message and key to disk and use gpg > > manually to check the signatures. What parts of the message are > > signed, though??? for example, in Karsten's email, there were 3 > > message sections: the text, the attached .muttrc, and the gpg sig. > > The signature applies to the entire contents, including attachments, of > the message. So you have verification that I was the person who wrote > and signed all parts of the mail. Makes more sense that way, no? Of course. My problem is that with the old way of handling signing/encrypting, the beginning and ending of the signed/encrypted text is clearly marked for both the user and the gpg app. I suspect that the reason I keep getting bad sigs is that gpg doesn't know what part of the text to check. For example, I saved your message (the one to which I'm replying now) to a file in my home dir: msg.pgp. I saved the key to msg.key. I then ran gpg msg.key and was prompted for the external data file. I told it where to find the file, it went through the verification process, and informed me that it was a bad signature: gpg msg.key Detached signature. Please enter name of data file: msg.pgp gpg: Signature made Sun Sep 10 01:47:15 2000 EDT using DSA key ID 55F2B9B0 gpg: BAD signature from "Karsten M. Self " I've never had such problem with the traditional inline signature. But when sigs are sent as attachments the exact opposite is true: I've never found a single mailer other than mutt that handles them. That really seems to defeat the purpose. > > So I save the message and key to my home dir, download the key, and > > run gpg on the key. It asks me for the file name, which I provide. > > To this it responds that they signature is invalid. > > Hmm... The entire message or just the text? When verifying a sig using the manner described above, gpg doesn't even offer the option of using multiple data files, so I've only been using the main message text with no attachements... > > I must say, the old style of handling pgp/gpg with the inline sigs and > > stuff worked much better for me. What are the advantages of sending > > the key as an attachment instead of inline? > > Well, as an example, a signed message with MIME components shows up as > signed, and I'm told that the signature is valid and known, the sig is > valid but unknown, or that the signature is invalid. Automajickally. Sure, in mutt it's great. As I said, I've yet to see it work anywhere else. noah ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBObudsYdCcpBjGWoFAQEwtAQAh6A+6wSfI9B5pdIBIwPHL2T9thNCiPtX lrkOkRixSWnXvnOe2Zw6PrGeHxGaaGCmqyUlDXd9czf4tO+DsomPhiHcxjkdRWlV 4d5znzLVrJeMgT3oaEPszbjxhuuVGasjV6tbR+Of7RL4bg4PQ7BTQJOC6qjk7Oxb D8Xt+8QDt0o= =rRNE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
qt2 >=2.0.1-0
I've just installed Potato and added KDE1.1.2 from .debs produced for Potato. Everything goes fine except kdegames which need qt2 >=2.0.1-0 or better. I used the same versions of KDE1.1.2, that had been compiled as .debs for Slink and kdegames there only required qt1.44. I don't understand why this state of affairs should be so, and have been unable to find .debs of qt 2 for Potato (although I believe someone is proposing to produce for Woody). At this time I don't want to use KDE2. I'll be grateful if someone can point me to a source for the .debs I need - that's assuming they exist. Regards, John.
Re: Debian 2.2 or woody
Julio Merino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 10/09/2000 (14:37) : > Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the > unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are > not the "latest" versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome, > etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this > from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that > will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture. Get Debian 2.2. Get HelixGnome. Drop Emacs use vim! ;-) And fetch the other packages you absolutely need from woody. Then you'll have a stable system. -- Preben Randhol - Ph.D student - http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ "i too once thought that when proved wrong that i lost somehow" - i was hoping, alanis morisette
Re: PGP and Mutt
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:23:20PM +0100, Bruce Richardson wrote: > This is why the gpg maintainers get so sniffy about mutt. The mime/pgp > attachments are not widely supported *at all*. So there's been an > option, since 1.2.3 I think, to do it the standard way. Put > > set pgp_create_traditional > > in your muttrc. Which would have been more impressive if my message had been correctly signed. E-mail misconfiguration, forgive me, this was a RH box two days ago. -- Bruce The ice-caps are melting, tra-la-la-la. All the world is drowning, tra-la-la-la-la. -- Tiny Tim.
Re: Family proofing a Debian box
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 10:26:23AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: > If they are trying to get root an have physical access to the box for > get about it, one floppy will get me root on any x86 Linux box I have > physial access to. There are a few ways to physically secure a box, that should work on almost any Intel-architecture system: * Disable booting from anything but the hard disk in the CMOS/BIOS setup. Put a password for the setup program, not the whole computer. 1) Lock the shell/cover on your computer. There's sometimes a tab that's attached to a computer's chassis that comes through a slot in the metal shell, in the back of the computer. This tab has a hole in it. You could put a small pad lock on it to keep someone from being able to remove the shell and clear the CMOS setup (or just the password if your motherboard permits). AFAIK, the only way to get around that is to pick or cut the lock, or cut open the shell somehow. 2) Some systems have a button on the back of the chassis that's usually pressed in when the shell is on. If it's removed an alarm could be sent over a network, possibly to a secured server that could page you or something. Also have yourself be paged if the network connection from the computer is lost from a cut/removed cable or computer power off. * If you can't do either of these, you may want to remove the floppy and/or CD-ROM drives. Of course, if your family is REALLY evil they could remove the hard disk and put it in a computer they have full control over. =) Of course, these methods are for extreme cases, and I would imagine your family wouldn't be so motivated to hack* your box that you would need to secure it like I suggested. And to Jon, if you can bypass the first method of security without damaging the lock, or just simply hacking* the box in a more conventional way, while only using a floppy disk, please share some insight. =) -- J.P. Larocque, known online as piranha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fidonet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:346/6 (The Garage, 509-326-4609) Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection. * What I call hacking someone such as Eric S. Raymond would call cracking, so shoot me.
Re: help with compiling qt examples?
Hi, Im a bit behind in reading the debian-digest, so I dont know if anybody already answered your question. Did you install zlib1g-dev? That was my fault (I had the same problems). Gery
Strange syslog messages on console
I'm getting these funny messages broadcast to all open shells on my machine. I think it started happening after I disabled denied packet logging in ipchains (having 8MB compressed logfiles isn't fun) I think this is the third time happening, and it doesn't seem to follow any known pattern. Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:26:20 2000 ... tarot Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:27:12 2000 ... tarot last message repeated 2 times
dselect error
I believe I have a slink base system installed and functioning well but have not been successful installing X. Attempts to run dselect from cdrom or internet result in the followin error: running dpkg - pending-configure... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libncurses4: libncurses4 depends on libc6 (>=2.0.7u-6);however;version of libc6 on system is 2.0.7t-1. dpkg:error processing libncurses4 (--configure):dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. Errors were encountered while processing libncurses4. dpkg -- configure returned error exit status 1. How can I find the package with the proper version of libc6? Can I download and install that package using apt-get without screwing up the existing installation using the old libc6?? What is the smoothest (cleanest) way to install X ???Thanks for any help!!
Re: Ethernet trouble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... > > Seeking help using a network card in a PC. The card is a Linksys Etherfast > 10/100 LAN card. Do you know what revision (ie v1 vs v2 vs v3 vs v4) of card this is? [...] > Here is result of "modprobe tulip": > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy > Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including > invalid IO or IRQ parameters > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o failed > /lib/modules/2.2.17/net/tulip.o: insmod tulip failed > > Here is result of "lspci": > 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C691 [Apollo PRO] (rev c4) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] > 00:04.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Apollo PRO] (rev 23) > 00:04.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (rev 10) > 00:04.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586B USB (rev 11) > 00:04.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3050 (rev 30) > 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Bridgecom, Inc: Unknown device 0985 (rev 11) > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X > (rev 5c) [...] > Bus 0, device 11, function 0: > Ethernet controller: Unknown vendor Unknown device (rev 17). > Vendor id=1317. Device id=985. ^^^ > Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable. > Latency=32. Min Gnt=255.Max Lat=255. > I/O at 0xb000 [0xb001]. > Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe100 [0xe100]. The entire problem is that the card is not supported by the tulip driver 2.2.x kernel series :( It is, however, directly supported by the 2.4.0-testx/2.4.x series of kernels. It's a long story as to why the driver is so far out of date. You can get an updated driver from http://www.scyld.com/network/tulip.html. I've never been able to get these drivers (off the scyld web pages) to work for me, but it's been a while since I've tried. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstien -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE5u61q/ZTSZFDeHPwRAi3mAJ425GDBOVhsXw25U7OtiCiH75hqIwCgkfvj qlI87NmZ/SKQOkWjS8o2SYY= =cFOr -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: stale/defunt sessions in debian
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:47:07AM -0500, William Jensen wrote:
> Is the following a product of how debian sets up the system or is it a kernel
> deal or what...
AFAIK, this is a general Linux problem, probably a general UNIX problem...
> If I telnet to my home box remotely, then just kill the session instead of
> logging out it often leaves that connection up in my ps even though I know
> it's gone. Who cleans those types of things up?
Um, the system administrator. =)
> Is there anything that debian
> or linux in geneal does to clean stale things up?
Depends on the "stale thing." In this case, I don't think Linux would
automatically kill stale login sessions, unless there was a total time or idle
time limit for that user, or of course the system was restarted or the init
runlevel was changed. However, it's trivial to fix this problem.
If you have the Debian package 'slay' installed, and the owner of the stale
session is only logged in through that or other stale sessions, issue "slay
staleuser" to kill all that user's processes. Of course, if that user is
logged in doing real work, then his or her session will be terminated.
A less easy but more direct approach is to kill all processes running on the
tty that holds the stale login session with the SIGTERM signal, so as any
important programs should exit cleanly. After a few seconds, issue a SIGKILL
signal to the person's login shell.
Here's a step-by-step example. Say the stale login is owned by 'piranha'. =)
Issue the 'w' command. You may see something like:
9:58pm up 27 years, 4 users, load average: 1.14, 1.12, 1.09
USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT
root tty1 4:33pm 2:00m 2.50s 2.50s -bash
piranha ttyp8omega 9:58pm 5:16m 0.17s 0.05s -bash
phed ttyS0 7:46pm 1.00m 0.19s 0.19s lynx
piranha ttyp2omega 8:32am 9.00s 0.14s 0.04s zile
You'll see the first listing for piranha is the most idle, at 5 hours, and
that he's on ttyp8. This is the login you'll want to kill. So type
'ps aux | grep '^.\{37\} p8 '' (excluding outermost single-quotes), and you
might see:
piranha 7220 0.0 1.9 1888 1268 p8 S08:32 0:00 -bash
piranha 12432 0.7 1.0 1100 656 p8 S08:38 0:00 /usr/bin/zile /home/p
(Note, in that command, 'p8' is for ttyp8. Put whatever comes after the
'tty'. If it's one letter/digit, put a space before it, as in '...\} 1 '.)
So to be nice, give zile a chance to exit cleanly, by issuing
'kill -TERM 7220 1243'. You should put every PID number (second column of 'ps
...' output) on the command-line with 'kill -TERM'. Wait a few seconds, and
now issue 'kill -KILL 7220', since 7220 is the login shell (it starts with a
hyphen). Now the user should be logged out.
You can perform the above steps as the named user, or root, of course.
--
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PS: Yes, the uptime example from 'w' is a -tad- unrealistic...
Re: Strange syslog messages on console
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:36:29AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm getting these funny messages broadcast to all open shells on my > machine. [snip] > Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:26:20 2000 ... > tarot > > Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Sat Sep 9 22:27:12 2000 ... > tarot last message repeated 2 times It *may* be evidence of someone trying the rpc.statd buffer overflow (this based on my extrapolation from a mesage David Wright posted on Wednesday 6 September -- if I'm wrong, blame me, not him!) The subject was "Strange broadcast message from syslogd"; the mailing list archives should have more details. See http://www.debian.org/security/2000/2719a for more information of the exploit. Best wishes, Terry Boon -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.5 iD8DBQE5u7MbB+GG7A6DEUARAvf0AKClsPS5GCrcIKZBubxRuBap6f+06gCgpKNI HNnrOk6M+AAkBQWhQYBZvvE= =pe5w -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?
Here's the latest update. I've got my drive to enter standby mode for extended periods by mounting all my partitions with the "sync" and "noatime" options. AFAIK, the first option causes data to be flushed to disk synchronously, and the second prevents file access time updates from being flushed to disk (or maybe just delays this). I then wrote a little script which runs hdparm -C /hda every second. The output from last night follows. Note that the drive was suspended for a good 5 hours (woo!). Another thing is that my hdparm -S settings seem to be completely ignored! It looks like, left to its own devices, the drive will enter standby mode after ten minutes. However, I tried doing a hdparm -S 1 (standby after five seconds) and other short intervals, in single user mode (where there are nearly no processes running which might write to disk), and the given interval passed every time with nothing happening. Finally, in my xconsole logs I see the following relevant items: Sep 10 06:25:01 mi /USR/SBIN/CRON[19620]: (root) CMD (test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily) Sep 10 06:47:01 mi /USR/SBIN/CRON[23582]: (root) CMD (test -e /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly) Sep 10 07:30:01 mi /USR/SBIN/CRON[31328]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/anacron && /usr/sbin/anacron -s) Sep 10 07:30:01 mi anacron[31330]: Anacron 2.3 started on 2000-09-10 Sep 10 07:30:01 mi anacron[31330]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 5 min. Sep 10 07:30:01 mi anacron[31330]: Jobs will be executed sequentially In other words, all the times that the drive started up during the night are accounted for. The last timestamp below, 9:09 AM, is the time that I got out of bed this morning and started writing this mail.. Having the drive enter standby mode (I think this means it stops spinning, although it still has power going to it) makes an audible difference. Now if only I could get the fan to stop... -chris Drive is now in standby mode Sun Sep 10 01:25:24 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to exit standby mode... Drive is now NOT in standby mode Sun Sep 10 06:25:08 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to enter standby mode... Drive is now in standby mode Sun Sep 10 06:35:23 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to exit standby mode... Drive is now NOT in standby mode Sun Sep 10 06:47:13 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to enter standby mode... Drive is now in standby mode Sun Sep 10 06:57:28 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to exit standby mode... Drive is now NOT in standby mode Sun Sep 10 07:30:04 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to enter standby mode... Drive is now in standby mode Sun Sep 10 07:55:34 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to exit standby mode... Drive is now NOT in standby mode Sun Sep 10 09:09:05 PDT 2000 Waiting for drive to enter standby mode...
Re: System sees only 65M of memory
just type exactly append mem=768M on a line in lilo.conf then on / run lilo reboot, what free command shows to you? > > > mem=768M > > > > but it still sees only 65 M? > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? > > Where are you applying the append command -- at the LILO boot prompt or > in /etc/lilo.conf? If in lilo.conf, have you re-run lilo? -- Jaume Teixi Administrador de Sistemes 6TEMS - Ducform, SA http://www.6tems.com
Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Philipp Schulte wrote: > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 05:59:38PM -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > > > Sep 8 17:50:11 mi apmd[1744]: User Suspend > > Sep 8 17:50:13 mi kernel: apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state > > I get the exact message. I am sure it is a BIOS problem here. Did you > enable APM in your BIOS? What does /proc/apm say? It says, quote: "1.13 1.2 0x07 0x01 0xff 0x80 -1% -1 ?" > > What happens is, the disk shuts down (woo!), the screen fails to blank > > (suck..) > > and about two seconds later the disk, and everything else, starts up > > again. Any ideas? -chris > > Well, the disk starts again, if it has to read or write > something. Maybe your system is swapping and that causes the disk to > start up? I've improved this significantly by mounting all partitions with "sync" and "noatime". The screen blanking problem I can live with because it does eventually blank on its own (I think the xset +dpms defaults to "standby" and "suspend" after 1200 and 1800 seconds, respectively. What I would like now is for the cpu fan to shutdown (presumably after the cpu has entered a sufficiently low-power mode or shut down completely), although I don't even know if this is possible with APM. Sometimes I really wish manpages were written by people with less clue, sigh. -chris
sound interrupts
Hey guys. How do I raise the priority of the interrupt that the soundcard is on so that music doesn't "stutter" during heavy disk operations? Mike "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
gnapster problems
When I try to use gnapster, I get a message: disconnected. When I select connect to official server or last server there's some network activity, but then it shows disconnected. Is there a problem with napster? More legal problems? or is it my system? Here's what I've changed since the last time it worked.. changed sources.list in apt to woody and did the apt-get update, apt-get upgrade. I'm runnin Helix gnome and after the upgrade I had gdm(gnome display manager) for login. When I removed gdm, the system removed gdm *and* helix-core.. don't know if this is the problem or not. I also wonder if it is some sort of security issue, but licq and gnomeicu are both working fine. Any suggestions? thanks dale
Re: replace chars in filenames?
Here's a csh hack for doing this. I didn't write it (csh? ugh) it but I do use it from time to time. Maybe test it first to make sure it does what you want. -chris #!/bin/csh -f # Performs search & replace on the given files if ( $#argv < 3 ) then echo "Usage: replace " exit 0 endif if ( $#argv == 2 ) then sed "s/$1/$2/g" exit 0 endif set list=($argv[3-]) set list=`grep -l $1 $list` mkdir replace.back foreach file ( $list ) echo "Replacing in: $file" cp -f $file $file.back cat $file.back | sed "s/$1/$2/g" >! $file mv -f $file.back replace.back rm -f $file.back end echo "DONE." On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Lars Grobe wrote: > Hi! > > As I have had trouble with netatalk's character set, I have many > filenames containing nonsense-chars (resulting from non-translated > German Umlaute). So I have to find strings as :8a and replace them > with a char (ä). Is it possible to do this with "find" ? > > Thank You, CU, Lars. > > -- > Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null >
Re: hibernation on a desktop? Suspend-to-RAM on a desktop?
Oh yeah according to my docs you should be adding stuff to /etc/apm/event.d, /etc/apm/suspend.d is deprecated.. -chris On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Julio Merino wrote: > I've tryied to add the hdparm script in /etc/apm/suspend.d... the disk > shut down, but in a while wake up another time. I think it's because > the disk is powered down, but apm hasn't still finished it's job (it > runs the scripts, but has to do something else later), so it has to > access the drive another time... Don't know how to solve. Any ideas??? > > Thanks.
Re: gnapster problems
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > When I try to use gnapster, I get a message: disconnected. When I select > connect to official server or last server there's some network activity, > but then it shows disconnected. Is there a problem with napster? More > legal problems? or is it my system? > Here's what I've changed since the last time it worked.. > changed sources.list in apt to woody and did the apt-get update, apt-get > upgrade. I'm runnin Helix gnome and after the upgrade I had gdm(gnome > display manager) for login. When I removed gdm, the system removed gdm > *and* helix-core.. don't know if this is the problem or not. > I also wonder if it is some sort of security issue, but licq and > gnomeicu are both working fine. Any suggestions? > thanks I get the same thing. I'm currently on by connecting to one of the opennap servers. I'm not sure what's wrong either. Mike
Re: gnapster problems
It's probably a gnapster issue then.. Michael Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > > > When I try to use gnapster, I get a message: disconnected. When I select > > connect to official server or last server there's some network activity, > > but then it shows disconnected. Is there a problem with napster? More > > legal problems? or is it my system? > > Here's what I've changed since the last time it worked.. > > changed sources.list in apt to woody and did the apt-get update, apt-get > > upgrade. I'm runnin Helix gnome and after the upgrade I had gdm(gnome > > display manager) for login. When I removed gdm, the system removed gdm > > *and* helix-core.. don't know if this is the problem or not. > > I also wonder if it is some sort of security issue, but licq and > > gnomeicu are both working fine. Any suggestions? > > thanks > > I get the same thing. I'm currently on by connecting to one of the > opennap servers. I'm not sure what's wrong either. > > Mike > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > -- "Know thyself.."
Re: Debian 2.2 or woody
Julio Merino wrote: > Hi, > > I'm going to install a new debian system at home (as I commented in > some other messages)... but I'm now wondering if installing the 2.2 or > woody version... > > Since I discovered apt :-) in slink, I've been always using the > unstable distribution. I would use 2.2, but in that version there are > not the "latest" versions of some programs, for example, emacs, gnome, > etc. And the problem of this, is that if I want to get one of this > from the unstable I will have to download A LOT of dependencies that > will make my installation a 2.2/woody mixture. > > Any good reasons to use one or another? If not, I'm going to install > woody as I've always done... :) Like a few others have said, it really depends on what the system will be used for. If a production server, I'd say stay with potato as much as possible. If a home workstation, I'd say go with whichever strikes your fancy. I've been running woody for a few months now with very few problems. Every now and then a package will get a bit bollixed, but usually gets straightened out in fairly short order. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and | everything is of great understanding, '91 GS500E| for belief in one false principle is the Morgantown WV | beginning of all unwisdom. pgppOCsZmAhYI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded (fwd)
Maybe someone should do something about this? ;-) Mike "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 00:50:02 +0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded Dear Sir/Madam Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. The summary of your previous message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Sent Date:2000/9/11 AM 12:49:08 Subject: Re: gnapster problems Body: * On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > When I try to use gnapster, I get a message: disconnected. When I select > connect to official server or last server there's some network activity, > but then it shows disconnected. Is there a problem with napster? More > legal problems? or is it my system? > Here's what I've changed since the last time it worked.. > changed sources.list in apt to woody and did the apt-get update, apt-get > upgrade. I'm runnin Helix gnome and after the upgrade I had gdm(gnome > display manager) for login. When I removed gdm, the system removed gdm > *and* helix-core.. don't know if this is the problem or not. > I also wonder if it is some sort of security issue, but licq and > gnomeicu are both working fine. Any suggestions? > thanks I get the same thing. I'm currently on by connecting to one of the opennap servers. I'm not sure what's wrong either. Mike -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null * _ Stay tuned at NETVIGATOR (my.netvigator.com) for more surprises!
Re: gnapster problems
Makes me wonder what it could be. It was working fine before. Mike On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > It's probably a gnapster issue then.. > > Michael Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > > > > > When I try to use gnapster, I get a message: disconnected. When I select > > > connect to official server or last server there's some network activity, > > > but then it shows disconnected. Is there a problem with napster? More > > > legal problems? or is it my system? > > > Here's what I've changed since the last time it worked.. > > > changed sources.list in apt to woody and did the apt-get update, apt-get > > > upgrade. I'm runnin Helix gnome and after the upgrade I had gdm(gnome > > > display manager) for login. When I removed gdm, the system removed gdm > > > *and* helix-core.. don't know if this is the problem or not. > > > I also wonder if it is some sort of security issue, but licq and > > > gnomeicu are both working fine. Any suggestions? > > > thanks > > > > I get the same thing. I'm currently on by connecting to one of the > > opennap servers. I'm not sure what's wrong either. > > > > Mike > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Know thyself.." > "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
nuking old man pages?
Anyone else have this problem where old manpages refuse to die and provide confusing outdated information? I just had this with "hdparm" and "mount". In the first case, there was an old manpage in /usr/man/ which took precedence over the new one in /usr/share/man. In the second case, there was a /usr/man/man8/mount.8 from 1996(!) which took precedence over a more recent /usr/man/man8/mount.8.gz. I did write a script a while back which goes through the manpage hierarchy looking for duplicates, but not sure if this is the way to do it.. -chris
RE: sound interrupts
On 10-Sep-2000 Michael Soulier wrote: > > Hey guys. How do I raise the priority of the interrupt that the > soundcard is on so that music doesn't "stutter" during heavy disk > operations? Use irqtune from the hwtools package.
no ping
Hey guys. How do you block ping responses, if you so chose? I don't see a ping service in /etc/inetd.conf or /etc/services. Mike "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
shut down cpu fan on suspend?
Has anyone managed to have their cpu fan shut down when they (and/or their machine) go to sleep? Can APM do this? I realize there is also ACPI but it looks like the linux impl doesn't yet cover all the bases. -chris
Re: no ping
Michael Soulier wrote: > > Hey guys. How do you block ping responses, if you so chose? I > don't see a ping service in /etc/inetd.conf or /etc/services. > > Mike > > "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the > lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." > -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) From: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/stoddard.html Before you save and close the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, we want to keep the system from responding to ICMP requests, such as ping and traceroute, so we add the following lines right after the #!/bin/sh line: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies hth, kent -- "Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being." - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Shane Pearson wrote: > > Sorry about the long line lengths and blank message. I am emailing from > telnet in Win98 (unfortunately). 'mail' is'nt very friendly as you know > compared with a fuller featured... > > Anyway, the store I bought the CD's from do not yet carry pressed Potsatoes. > > I noticed that fsck /cdrom reveals the possibility of fsck.iso9660, so do you > know where I can get that version of fsck? It is not installed by default. im not sure what you are asking... you trying to run fsck on a CDROM ?? since it is a read only media, there is no way to repair errors on it. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shut down cpu fan on suspend?
Krzys Majewski wrote: > > Has anyone managed to have their cpu fan shut down when they > (and/or their machine) go to sleep? Can APM do this? I > realize there is also ACPI but it looks like the linux impl > doesn't yet cover all the bases. -chris the bios should have an option to do this, mine do, although i never turn my machines off i havent tested it. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Weird messages after kernel compiling...
On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:22:45PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote: > I saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in > /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/" I usually delete the /lib/modules/2.2.17 directory, before I do a 'make modules_install'. Try that. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgp7ATgt48K1O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XF68_FBDev
Parrish M Myers wrote: > > Hi, > > I just got matroxfb working correctly and noticed that there is a frame > buffer console x server called XF68_FBDev. Has anyone used this in > Debian? If so are there any screenshots that show what it looks like? > I am very interested to see what it can do. > > thanks IIRC this is just for use with the m68k arch systems - I used this when I was running Debian on my Amigas. LeeE -- http://www.spatial.freeserve.co.uk ...or something
Re: Weird messages after kernel compiling...
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 10:50:34AM -0700 or thereabouts, John L . Fjellstad wrote: > On Sat, Sep 09, 2000 at 05:22:45PM -0700, Gutierrez Family wrote: > > > I saw a whole screen-full of "*** Unresolved symbols in > > /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/" > > I usually delete the /lib/modules/2.2.17 directory, before I do > a 'make modules_install'. Try that. > for me i'd rename it to /lib/modules/2.2.17-old in case i need 'em back ;-) -- Who's watching the watchmen? ICQ: 15096825
Re: gnapster problems
Except that I rebooted into *shudder* windoze to see if the official napster client was still working, and it was. I rebooted into Linux and gnapster was having the same problems. Maybe part of napster is shut down and I got lucky in windoze? Don't know... It'd be cool to continue on the private servers even if they shut down napster, but how long before those private servers are nailed too? Seems to me that gnutella is the next target. Granted, they transfer everything there, but they could be forced to screen mp3s. I mean, we'd have the change the file extensions during transfer. ;-) Mike On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dale Morris wrote: > Mike, I wouldn't be surprised if it were some sort of decision to > shutdown for a while. I believe Thursday or Friday the Fed judge ruled > against mp3.com, although their case is a little different. Costs will > run somewhere around 350 million for mp3 if they lose. I'm sure they > will appeal, though. This is really interesting, we're seeing things > unfold right before our eyes on the digital frontier. These ruling will > affect the future of copyright laws. Of course, I'm sure the > 'old-fashioned-old technology' judge doesn't realize there are many ways > around his ruling. If gnapster goes down, it can be done privately on > individually hosted servers. I am not sure but I think gnutella and free > serve both work this way. More will be revealed.. > > dale
Re: no ping
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, ktb wrote: > From: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/stoddard.html > > Before you save and close the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, we want to keep > the system from responding to ICMP requests, such as ping > and traceroute, so we add the following lines right after the #!/bin/sh > line: > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies Ok cool. So, is it a security improvement to block these then? Mike
Re: no ping
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, ktb wrote: > From: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/stoddard.html > > Before you save and close the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, we want to keep > the system from responding to ICMP requests, such as ping > and traceroute, so we add the following lines right after the #!/bin/sh > line: > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies Well, there is no such animal on my system. Debian doesn't use an rc.local file, does it? However, looks like this is being done already: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ ls /proc/sys/net/ipv4 conf ip_forwardtcp_max_ka_probes icmp_destunreach_rate ip_local_port_range tcp_max_syn_backlog icmp_echo_ignore_all ip_masq_debug tcp_retrans_collapse icmp_echo_ignore_broadcastsip_masq_udp_dloosetcp_retries1 icmp_echoreply_rateip_no_pmtu_disc tcp_retries2 icmp_ignore_bogus_error_responses ipfrag_high_threshtcp_rfc1337 icmp_paramprob_rateipfrag_low_thresh tcp_sack icmp_timeexceed_rate ipfrag_time tcp_stdurg igmp_max_memberships neigh tcp_syn_retries ip_always_defrag route tcp_syncookies ip_autoconfig tcp_fin_timeout tcp_timestamps ip_default_ttl tcp_keepalive_probes tcp_window_scaling ip_dynaddr tcp_keepalive_time They're there already. However, a ping localhost still works... [EMAIL PROTECTED] msoulier]$ ping localhost PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=255 time=0.1 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.1 ms 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.1 ms --- localhost.localdomain ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 0.1/0.1/0.1 ms Is the loopback interface special, or should it not be responding to these? Mike
kernel 2.4.0-test7
I upgraded from potato to woody and installed the newest kernel. However, when I boot with the new kernel, it locks up when it tries to start inetd. If I boot with the old kernel, everything loads perfectly. Does anyone know what this could be? luke
My orphaned packages.
[ CC me in replies; I am not subscribed right now. ] I do not have time anymore to work on the packages I once maintained for Debian. I'm sorry that I did not properly orphan them. I just don't have time for it. My health is most important, followed by studies. I cannot live in a chair anymore, and I have to spend my computer time working on homework assignments and reading. `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've not even looked at it in over a year. I've got some work begun on packaging XEmacs-21.2. It should be looked over by anyone interested in continuing it. Perhaps after college I will take up some packages again. Time to go for a run, then hook on down to the gym for a workout. (Pre-vailing.)
RE: kernel 2.4.0-test7
On 10-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I upgraded from potato to woody and installed the newest kernel. > However, when I boot with the new kernel, it locks up when it tries to > start inetd. If I boot with the old kernel, everything loads > perfectly. Does anyone know what this could be? This happened to me and the cure was to upgrade the modutils package. -- Andrew
root access for rdist
I need to use rdist to sync some system files from one machine to another. I am unable to access the second machine as root. I have made a .rhosts in the second machines /root dir and tried to put ALL: local in /etc/hosts.allow. Both machines are rather verbatim Debian 2.2 I assume root is prevented from logging in some where, but I am unable to find just were. What am I missing here? Thanks a lot! -- Erik van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
It Must be the Matrox G400
I did a reinstall. The first time I installed potato, the mouse was all fd up, it sticks to the bottom of the screen and refuses to com up. I can see the tip of the pointer on the bottom edge of the screen. When that happened, I ran XF86Setup and changed a couple settings on the mouse and I think the meer using XF86Setup set the mouse right. Honestly I don't think it matttered what I picked in XF86Setup, as long as I was not too far off based. Now I'm a bit frustrated because XF86Setup won't even come up. I can manipulate the window menu system with key combinations from the keyboard, but when I choose XF86Setup, the hard drive grinds a little bit and then nothing. I started XF86Setup from the command line and I get "X11TransSocket UNIX Conect:can't connect: errno=111" and I get the message "unable to communicate with X server" I'm using the svga X Server for my card. The other really frustrating thing is when I bring up windows in XWindows, the top 1/4 to 1/3 of the window is above the top of my screen. I have not found anything to remedy this. Again, on the first install, I was able to run XF86Setup and it fixed this crap. Any help would be appreciated. Paul
realplayer plugin
Does anyone have the realplayer plugin working? Realplayer works fine, but when I go to a site like http://www.cbc.ca and try the realplayer video there, or CNN.com, the plugin doesn't seem to work. Mike "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: It Must be the Matrox G400
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:12:08PM -0500, Paul T. McNally wrote: > I did a reinstall. The first time I installed potato, the mouse was > all fd up, it sticks to the bottom of the screen and refuses to > com up. I can see the tip of the pointer on the bottom edge of the > screen. When that happened, I ran XF86Setup and changed > a couple settings on the mouse and I think the meer using XF86Setup > set the mouse right. Honestly I don't think it matttered what I > picked in XF86Setup, as long as I was not too far off based. I've seen this type of mouse behavior before when gdm(?) is being run. If you check the archives just a couple weeks ago you will see a fair amount of usefull fixes for this situation. > > Now I'm a bit frustrated because XF86Setup won't even come up. > I can manipulate the window menu system with key combinations > from the keyboard, but when I choose XF86Setup, the hard drive grinds > a little bit and then nothing. I started XF86Setup from the command line > and I get "X11TransSocket UNIX Conect:can't connect: errno=111" > > and I get the message "unable to communicate with X server" > > I'm using the svga X Server for my card. Maybe you need to run XF86Setup as root? > > The other really frustrating thing is when I bring up windows in XWindows, > the > top 1/4 to 1/3 of the window is above the top of my screen. > > I have not found anything to remedy this. > > Again, on the first install, I was able to run XF86Setup and it fixed this > crap. Any help would be appreciated. > > Paul > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > pgpwr1LmAIIlB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: realplayer plugin
On Netscape you must handedit Preferences-Navigator - Applications both two following handlers should have there: Description RealAudio MIMETypeaudio/x-pn-realaudio Suffixes ra,rm,ram v Use this MIME as outgoing default Application/usr/local/RealPlayer7/realplay %s Description MIMETypeaudio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin Suffixesrpm v Use this MIME as outgoing default Plug In: RealPlayer (tm) 7.0 Plug-In > Does anyone have the realplayer plugin working? Realplayer works > fine, but when I go to a site like http://www.cbc.ca and try the > realplayer video there, or CNN.com, the plugin doesn't seem to work. > -- Jaume Teixi Administrador de Sistemes 6TEMS - Ducform, SA http://www.6tems.com
Re: Extreme disappointment. :(
Yeah - it sounds useless, but its prime use is to fsck iso-style images mounted in the file system, before burning them to CDROM At 10:44 AM 9/10/00 -0700, you wrote: Shane Pearson wrote: > I noticed that fsck /cdrom reveals the possibility of fsck.iso9660, so do you know where I can get that version of fsck? It is not installed by default. im not sure what you are asking... you trying to run fsck on a CDROM ?? since it is a read only media, there is no way to repair errors on it. -- Criggie
Re: shut down cpu fan on suspend?
Yeah, there's an option in the BIOS called "fan off on suspend" which I've set, but it doesn't seem to help.. -chris On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Nate Amsden wrote: > Krzys Majewski wrote: > > > > Has anyone managed to have their cpu fan shut down when they > > (and/or their machine) go to sleep? Can APM do this? I > > realize there is also ACPI but it looks like the linux impl > > doesn't yet cover all the bases. -chris > > the bios should have an option to do this, mine do, although i never > turn my machines off i havent tested it. > > nate > > -- > ::: > ICQ: 75132336 > http://www.aphroland.org/ > http://www.linuxpowered.net/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: realplayer plugin
Hmm. Didn't work for me. If I add both of these entries, it tells me that a plugin for audio/x-pn-realaudio could not be found. Without these entries, and just the audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin with an rpm suffix pointing to the plugin, I get: Unable to establish a connection to the server: http://www.cnn.com/video/meta/empty.rpm Works on windoze, but I'd rather not have to boot into windoze to use this stuff. Mike On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Jaume Teixi wrote: > On Netscape you must handedit Preferences-Navigator - Applications > both two following handlers should have there: > > > Description RealAudio > MIMETypeaudio/x-pn-realaudio > Suffixes ra,rm,ram > > v Use this MIME as outgoing default > > Application/usr/local/RealPlayer7/realplay %s > > > Description > MIMETypeaudio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin > Suffixesrpm > > v Use this MIME as outgoing default > > Plug In: RealPlayer (tm) 7.0 Plug-In > > > > > > Does anyone have the realplayer plugin working? Realplayer works > > fine, but when I go to a site like http://www.cbc.ca and try the > > realplayer video there, or CNN.com, the plugin doesn't seem to work. > > > > -- > Jaume Teixi > Administrador de Sistemes > 6TEMS - Ducform, SA > http://www.6tems.com > > > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null > > "To listen to the words of the learned, and to instill into others the lessons of science, is better than religious exercises." -- Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)
Re: no ping
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:02:17PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies > > They're there already. However, a ping localhost still works... Notice the "1" in the above statements. That means "true". -- // André
Re: no ping
Michael Soulier wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, ktb wrote: > > > From: http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue55/stoddard.html > > > > Before you save and close the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, we want to keep > > the system from responding to ICMP requests, such as ping > > and traceroute, so we add the following lines right after the #!/bin/sh > > line: > > > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies > > Well, there is no such animal on my system. Debian doesn't use an > rc.local file, does it? > However, looks like this is being done already: No Debian doesn't use rc.local, here is a link describing how Debian sets things up -- http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.html#s-custombootsscripts First off from the command line execute the command -- echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all You should not be able to ping 127.0.0.1 or your machine's IP. If you want to turn ping back on execute -- echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_all You can do this without rebooting. When you turn off ping in this way, when you reboot it will be lost. Ping will work again. Hence the need to put it in a boot script if you want to make it permanent. If you have trouble with the boot script let me know. I'm not a whiz at it but I could cobble something together:) You asked something about shutting off your machine to respond to ping, in your last message, as being a good start to securing your machine. Not really it is a step. Take a look at this free book -- http://pages.infinit.net/lotus1/opendocs/book.htm It is Redhat specific but there is some good info there. At least it will give you an idea of some of the steps you need to take. hth, kent "Neurosis is the way of avoiding non-being by avoiding being." - Paul Tillich, American theologian (1886-1965).
Debian Menu with Sawfish (Helix)
Hi, has anyone the same experience with (all packages up-to-date) HelixGnome and Sawfish: The middle mouse button, which brings up sawfish's root menu contained under "programs" the whole Debian menu with apps ... Since some days I miss it! There are only some entries: xterm, Emacs, Netscape and others. Any idea, what went wrong? Or is it the supposed behavior? How can I get the Debian menu structure back at this place? P.S. I tried to remove all my sawfish/sawmill settings in $HOME, because I thought I did something with my config. No effect. Kai. -- + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + http://www.tu-ilmenau.de/~bond/
Re: Debian VS. Red Hat
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 10:06:59AM -0400, Chris Jenks wrote: > >From what I have seen since this thread started, IMHO, is that a lot of RH > users that have > switched to Debian enjoy Debian more. Now this might be geek like, or gump > like I'm not > sure, Well, the reason I enjoy Debian more is because of dpkg. I don't think I can emphasize how much superior deb is rpm. But that's just a package management. There are no reason why RedHat and all the other RPM distributions can't start using debs. Heck, every major version of RPM is incompatible with previous version anyways. Reason I switched is because the RPM used in 6.x (v3.x) can't read packages for 7 (v4). Now, I don't know how hard it to change the database, but from what I understand, both debs and rpms use text based database, so it shouldn't be impossible. That said, Enlightenment runs no different on Debian than it did on RedHat. GNOME is still weird and a resource hog on both distributions. > Which also goes back to Wayne's comment on RH being better because it's > more popular. Well, the reason I got RedHat initially was because that was the only version of Linux at the local Fry's (or was it CompUSA?) store. Today's newbies can choose between alot more distributions, and I'm not sure I would have installed RedHat if I had started today. Also, preinstall has a lot to say, too. That said, berating people because of their choice of Linux distribution is just beyond stupid in my book. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgptaJdSc0pM3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian or Stormix
I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things and thought that I would like to try Debian. As I understand it, Stormix is based on Debian. Other than different "system installers" and Stormix has a "graphical" boot screen, are there any other differences? Stormix Deluxe comes with some "users" documentation books where as Debian does not. I'd like to learn Debian. I've heard a lot of good things on Debian's stability, dselect, dpkg, and apt-get, etc. If Stormix and Debian are the same I would be willing to pay the extra for Stormix Deluxe just to get the documentation books that come with it. Any comments? Please no flame wars. There is enough flame wars about the stupidest things already. -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1
gnapster
I just checked on the official napster website and it says the system is up and functioning.. but it's not working on my system, does anyone else have it working? -- "The major advances in civilization are processes that all but wreck the societies in which they occur." --Albert North Whitehead
Re: XF68_FBDev
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 05:05:37PM +0100, Lee Elliott wrote: > IIRC this is just for use with the m68k arch systems - I used this when > I was running Debian on my Amigas. I *think* that the Frame Buffer drivers have been used on more architectures than that. But now they've been ported to x86 as well. They work on a lot of modern cards. You lose the card-specific extensions but you do gain a much simplified X set-up and one that you don't need to change with your card (just install the appropriate Frame-buffer driver). Also, it uses SVGA text modes for the console -- Bruce It is impolite to tell a man who is carrying you on his shoulders that his head smells.
Re: gnapster
Dale Morris wrote: > > I just checked on the official napster website and it says the system is > up and functioning.. but it's not working on my system, does anyone else > have it working? not here, it always gives login incorrect even if i try a new account. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: It Must be the Matrox G400
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:12:08PM -0500, Paul T. McNally wrote: > I did a reinstall. The first time I installed potato, the mouse was > all fd up, it sticks to the bottom of the screen and refuses to > com up. I can see the tip of the pointer on the bottom edge of the > screen. When that happened, I ran XF86Setup and changed > a couple settings on the mouse and I think the meer using XF86Setup > set the mouse right. Honestly I don't think it matttered what I > picked in XF86Setup, as long as I was not too far off based. One possible solution is to find somebody with the same mouse and ask him hor his config. You could just copy the "pointer" section. > Now I'm a bit frustrated because XF86Setup won't even come up. > I can manipulate the window menu system with key combinations > from the keyboard, but when I choose XF86Setup, the hard drive grinds > a little bit and then nothing. I started XF86Setup from the command line > and I get "X11TransSocket UNIX Conect:can't connect: errno=111" > > and I get the message "unable to communicate with X server" > > I'm using the svga X Server for my card. But do you have the xserver-vga16 installed? AFAIK XF86Setup needs it because you choose your matching server _after_ this vga16 server was started. > The other really frustrating thing is when I bring up windows in XWindows, > the > top 1/4 to 1/3 of the window is above the top of my screen. Did you choose to use a "virtual desktop"? Phil
Re: It Must be the Matrox G400
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 02:13:44PM -0500, William Jensen wrote: > I've seen this type of mouse behavior before when gdm(?) is being run. If > you check the archives just a couple weeks ago you will see a fair amount > of usefull fixes for this situation. It's called "gpm". It sucks ;) Phil
/debian-non-US/dists/woody/Contents-*.gz
...hi all, what is happened with this file(s)? Only Contents-hurd-i386.gz and Contents-arm.gz are in ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/woody/non-US :-( bye MaXX
Re: two apt-get questions
> "Sean" == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> 2. How do I get apt-get to tell me which version of a package it >> would install, without actually installing it, regardless of >> the version of the existing package if any? Sean> apt-get -s foo bar Sorry, but it doesn't show the *versions*. So, that'd be a resounding No here also. Too bad, I'd like such an option also... currently you can only check apt-cache show foo against dpkg -s foo to see whether there's a newer version. Ugly and complicated... Bye, J -- Jürgen A. Erhard[EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: (GERMANY) 0721 27326 MARS: http://members.tripod.com/Juergen_Erhard/mars_index.html Electronic Frontier Foundation (http://www.eff.org) "Windows NT" is an acronym for "Windows? No thanks." -- Russ McManus pgpA37tR3j31g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: realplayer plugin
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:56:57PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: > Hmm. Didn't work for me. If I add both of these entries, it tells > me that a plugin for audio/x-pn-realaudio could not be found. Without > these entries, and just the audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin with an rpm suffix > pointing to the plugin, I get: I don't claim to understand the mysteries of RealPlayer, but at times it has *seemed* as if running, on the RealPlayer menu, Help -> Mime Type/Plugin Install has helped. -- Bob Bernstein"Sufficiently advanced file sharing systems atshould be indistinguishable from corporate Esmond, R.I., USA VPNs. Bless VPNs for creating all that suspicious-looking encrypted traffic." D.Marti
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
What's up with all the "mail box full" messages? On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:04:38AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -|Dear Sir/Madam -| -|Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. -| -|The summary of your previous message: -|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|To: debian-user@lists.debian.org -|Cc: -|Sent Date:2000/9/11 AM 05:01:49 -|Subject: Debian or Stormix -|Body: -|* -|I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, -|SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things -|and thought that I would like to try Debian. -| -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1
Re: Error: undelivered email - recipient email storage limit exceeded
What's up with the "mailbox" full messages? On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 05:04:38AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -|Dear Sir/Madam -| -|Your message cannot be delivered to the recipient because his/her mail box storage limit has exceeded. -| -|The summary of your previous message: -|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -|To: debian-user@lists.debian.org -|Cc: -|Sent Date:2000/9/11 AM 05:01:49 -|Subject: Debian or Stormix -|Body: -|* -|I currently use FreeBSD 4.1. I have played with RH, MD, -|SuSE, and Caldera in the past. I like learning new things -|and thought that I would like to try Debian. -| -- --- Christopher W. Aiken, Scenery Hill, Pa, USA chris at cwaiken dot com, www.cwaiken.com Preferred O/S: FreeBSD 4.1
