FWD: debian's hamm, (x)quake and __errno_location

[Joey Hess]

If anyone knows anything about this, I'm stumped.

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 14:48:08 -0500
From: Morgan Larch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: debian's hamm, (x)quake and __errno_location



I don't know where else to ask ...

Maybe you can enlighten me as to the what/wherefore/why of this
persistent __errno_location problem as I found it trying to 
install/run xquake 09-1.0-7 quake-lib-stub 1.0. I got the 
deb's installed ok and I have a Commercial release of Quake
on a local file system but trying to run quake I get the 
error message: "can't resolve symbol '__errno_location'". 

This has stooped me from getting several packages up and here
with quake it is happening again. Is there a way to fix this ?
Just what is broken ? Did I miss an APB ? Is hamm broken ?

Hoping you can help, Sincerely,

Morgan Larch
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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see shy jo

exim: socket bind () failed

[Frederick Page]

Hi all,

sorry to bother you again with another exim-question, I already RTFM, also  
several howtos but could not find anything (/var/logs/exim/mainlog),  
everything seems to work, but those messages keep popping up:

1999-02-04 23:43:16 socket bind() to port 25 for address (any) failed:
Address already in use: waiting before trying again
1999-02-04 23:43:46 socket bind() (...)
1999-02-04 23:44:16 socket bind() (...)
1999-02-04 23:53:00 Start queue run: pid=180
1999-02-04 23:53:00 End queue run: pid=180

Several hours pass, exim delivers email, gets email, but then again, those  
socket bind msgs come up again. Doesn't seem to do anything bad, but exim  
keeps writing those msgs in it's paniclog and it ennoys me.

To be more specific: I run Kernel 2.0.34 (Hamm) and the official  
distribution 2.0 from Linux Press. Also UUCP and EXIM from that  
distribution (installed the binaries, did not compile).

My /etc/exim.conf looks like this (only relevant parts):

# Transport
uucp_rmail:
  driver = pipe
  user = nobody
  command = "uux --stdin --nouucico --requestor \
'${if eq {$sender_address}{}{mailer-daemon}{$sender_address}}' \
$host!rmail $pipe_addresses"
  return_fail_output = true
  no_retry_use_local_part

# Router
uucp_rmail:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = uucp_rmail
  route_list = "* downtown"

The rest is more or less defaults. As I said: it seems to work fine, it  
just complains but does everything I want.

Kind regards Frederick

Re: Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy.

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Christopher R. Barry wrote:

> Whenever Apt fetches new packages, is there a way for it to save them?
> Preferably, if Apt could understand the local directory hierarchy and
> automatically put them in their place that would be wonderful.

By default it does save them in a nice format that it can make easy use
of. The dselect method by default erases, but in APTv3 this is
configurable.

I don't really see a huge use in saving to a local heigharchy, why would
you want that over a flat directory? 

Jason

RE: apt-get update failing

[Jason Gunthorpe]

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks to Nils and Jason for the *really* fast replies ...
> 
> Just upgraded to apt_0.1.10 from potato - same problem.  Looks like there
> are a few others out there seeing the same thing.

master{root}~#apt-get update
Get file:/debian/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/contrib Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/main Packages
Get http://nonus.debian.org unstable/non-US Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/non-free Packages 
Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/contrib Packages 
Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/main Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/non-free Packages
Fetched 41.3k in 0s (50.1k/s)
Updating package file cache...done
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
master{root}~#apt-get | head --lines 1
apt 0.1.5 for i386 compiled on Jul 23 1998  22:05:22 

Hmm.. Are you sure you package files are not corrupted? 

Jason

Re: Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy.

[Frederick Page]

Hi Christopher,

you wrote on: 04 Feb 99 at 15:53 (received 05.02.99)
about   : _Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy._

>Whenever Apt fetches new packages, is there a way for it to save them?

Yes, I believe so. Sorry, I don't know the exact syntax, but remember to  
have read it with "man apt-get". There is an option, that makes apt just  
download the files, without installing them.

>Preferably, if Apt could understand the local directory hierarchy and
>automatically put them in their place that would be wonderful.

I dunno where apt stores those files, but there's a way to find out :-)

Kind regardsFrederick

HELP! (Trouble installing token ring card)

[Michael D. Cencula]

I recently installed a token ring card in my debian system (in addition to
my ethernet card).  To do this, I added the line:

ibmtr

to my /etc/modules file.  Afterwards, the system has displayed the following
during bootup:

tr0: ISA 16/4 Adapter/II found using irq 7, PIOaddr  a24, 16K shared RAM.
tr0: Hardware address : 10:00:5A:74:14:65

It seems that the O/S is loading the token ring module and is able to see
the card, but when I use ifconfig to assign an IP address (or  make the card
active using ifconfig tr0 up), the process that is running ifconfig hangs.
This is what I get when I do ifconfig -a:

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Bcast:127.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3584  Metric:1
  RX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:1B:48:CD:17
  inet addr:192.168.64.18  Bcast:192.168.64.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:33 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0x360

tr0   Link encap:16/4 Mbps TR  HWaddr 10:00:5A:74:14:65
  inet addr:0.0.0.0  Bcast:0.0.0.0  Mask:0.0.0.0
  BROADCAST  MTU:2000  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  Collisions:0
  Interrupt:7 Base address:0xa24

The other interface (my ethernet card) is working fine.  If someone has a
suggestion about how to get this thing up and running, I'd sure like to hear
it.  I'm stumped!

Michael D. Cencula
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kernel 2.2.1.

[Chris Wong]

Hmm,

I'm having troubles. I've just compiled the 2.2.1 kernel, and everything
seems to be okay when compiling. But, when I restart my machine, it
complains when it loads my modules. It says that my

/lib/modules/2.2.1/modules.dep is empty!

That file should have info on my ip_alias, cdrom, and nic.. but, how do
I get it to work?..

Why would this happen?

Chris Wong | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AD Digital Media Inc. (c) 1999
http://addm.com/

Re: Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy.

[Jolyon Suthers]

>you wrote on: 04 Feb 99 at 15:53 (received 05.02.99)
>about   : _Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy._
>
>>Whenever Apt fetches new packages, is there a way for it to save them
>Yes, I believe so. Sorry, I don't know the exact syntax, but remember to
>have read it with "man apt-get". There is an option, that makes apt just
>download the files, without installing them.
If you just run the apt-get command by itself, eg apt-get dselect-upgrade
then it downloads and installs the files, but doesn't delete them.
Personally
I recommend using the apt-get -fd dselect-upgrade command. This doesn't
install the packages, just downloads them.

>>Preferably, if Apt could understand the local directory hierarchy and
>>automatically put them in their place that would be wonderful.
>I dunno where apt stores those files, but there's a way to find out :-)
The packages end up in /var/cache/apt/archives partially downloaded
files go into /var/cache/apt/archives/partial it doesn't save the directory
structure though, so if want to maintain a local directory hierachy and use
apt you'll have to manually sort the files.

Jolyon

Re: Kernel 2.2.1.

[Jolyon Suthers]

> I'm having troubles. I've just compiled the 2.2.1 kernel, and everything
>seems to be okay when compiling. But, when I restart my machine, it
>complains when it loads my modules. It says that my
>
>/lib/modules/2.2.1/modules.dep is empty!
>
>That file should have info on my ip_alias, cdrom, and nic.. but, how do
>I get it to work?..
>
>Why would this happen?
Have you regenerated your module dependencies, using the depmod -a
command???

Jolyon

ICQ???

[cooking]

-- 
Hi to all ! can someone tell me what and where a goo d ICQ for my Deb box would 
be :-) Thankyou
 "CAR'N THE SAINTS" 
Craig McVean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

Re: ICQ???

[Andrei Ivanov]

> -- 
> Hi to all ! can someone tell me what and where a goo d ICQ for my Deb box 
> would be :-) Thankyou

That depends what you want to get. Many ICQ clones are at
http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/

Andrew

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Re: Having Apt save packages in local hierarchy.

[John Hasler]

Christopher R. Barry writes:
> Whenever Apt fetches new packages, is there a way for it to save them?

Look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ .

> Preferably, if Apt could understand the local directory hierarchy and
> automatically put them in their place that would be wonderful.

I don't understand what you mean by this.
-- 
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?

[Eric House]

I'm looking for a bit of software that'll let me use a combination of
key strokes (in X) where a mouse is called for.  Numberpad '6' moves
pointer to the right; '5' simulates a click -- that kind of thing.

Some apps don't provide keyboard equivalents for all user actions, and
my laptop mouse is a royal pain to use on airplanes.

Even the Mac did this years ago, so I'm hopeful.

Thanks,

--Eric House

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Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?

[Steve Lamb]

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:54:49 -0800 (PST), Eric House wrote:

>I'm looking for a bit of software that'll let me use a combination of
>key strokes (in X) where a mouse is called for.  Numberpad '6' moves
>pointer to the right; '5' simulates a click -- that kind of thing.

X does this already.


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User names.

[Chris Wong]

Hmm,

For Debian, user names are limited to 8 characters.. as well
as the passwords. How can this be, lengthened? ... as well as long
email addreses? ie:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks.

Chris Wong | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AD Digital Media Inc. (c) 1999
http://addm.com/

Squid not starting/stopping correctly

[Mike Orr]

My new version of squid is not starting or stopping properly.  However, it
seems to run OK.

ii  squid   2.1.2-1Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache)
ii  squid-cgi   2.1.2-1Squid cache manager CGI program
ii  squidclient 2.1.2-1Command line URL extractor that talks to (a)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# /etc/init.d/squid start
Starting proxy server: squid.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# /etc/init.d/squid stop 
Stopping proxy server: Waiting 
. Failed.. done.

(Of course, it takes two minutes for the stop script to time out.)

Adding the -x option to the top of the script to show the commands executed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# /etc/init.d/squid start
+ PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
+ DAEMON=/usr/lib/squid/RunCache
+ SQUID=/usr/sbin/squid
+ LIB=/usr/lib/squid
+ PIDFILE=/var/run/runcache.pid
+ SPIDFILE=/var/run/squid.pid
+ SQUID_ARGS=-D -sNY
+ '[' -x /usr/sbin/squid ']'
+ echo -n 'Starting proxy server: '
Starting proxy server: + start
+ cd /var/spool/squid
+ start-stop-daemon --quiet --start --pidfile /var/run/runcache.pid --exec 
/usr/lib/squid/RunCache -- -D -sNY
+ sleep 2
+ echo squid.
squid.
+ exit 0

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# date  [exit=0] [tty=p2] [ 
6:21PM]
Thu Feb  4 18:22:06 PST 1999
Thu Feb  4 18:22:06 PST 1999
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# ls -l /var/run/{runcache,squid}.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 root root5 Feb  4 18:21 /var/run/runcache.pid
-rw-r--r--   1 root proxy   5 Feb  4 18:21 /var/run/squid.pid
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# cat /var/run/runcache.pid
1906
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# cat /var/run/squid.pid
1912
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils# ps aux|egrep '1906|1912'
proxy 1912  1.6  3.9  6896  5008  p2 S N  18:21   0:01 squid -D -sNY 
root  1906  0.1  0.6  1640   856  p2 S N  18:21   0:00 sh /usr/lib/squid/Run
root  1944  0.0  0.2   848   348  p2 S N  18:23   0:00 egrep 1906|1912 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/doc/modutils#  /etc/init.d/squid stop
+ PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
+ DAEMON=/usr/lib/squid/RunCache
+ SQUID=/usr/sbin/squid
+ LIB=/usr/lib/squid
+ PIDFILE=/var/run/runcache.pid
+ SPIDFILE=/var/run/squid.pid
+ SQUID_ARGS=-D -sNY
+ '[' -x /usr/sbin/squid ']'
+ echo -n 'Stopping proxy server: '
Stopping proxy server: + stop verbose
+ start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/runcache.pid
+ start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/squid.pid --exec 
/usr/sbin/squid
+ sleep 2
++ pidof -o %PPID -o 1945 /usr/sbin/squid
+ '[' '894 893 892 891 890 865 864 863 862 861 836 835 834 833 832 807 806 805 
804 803 778 777 776 775 774 749 748 747 746 745 653 652 651 650 649 624 623 622 
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468 467 466 465 464 534 533 413 412 411 410 384 383 382 381 380 409 346 345 344 
343 342 289 288 287 286 285 254 253 252 251 250 182 181 180 179 178' '!=' '' ']'
+ echo -n 'Waiting .'
Waiting .+ cnt=0
++ pidof -o %PPID -o 1945 /usr/sbin/squid
+ '[' '894 893 892 891 890 865 864 863 862 861 836 835 834 833 832 807 806 805 
804 803 778 777 776 775 774 749 748 747 746 745 653 652 651 650 649 624 623 622 
621 620 595 594 593 592 591 566 565 564 563 562 537 536 535 508 507 506 505 504 
468 467 466 465 464 534 533 413 412 411 410 384 383 382 381 380 409 346 345 344 
343 342 289 288 287 286 285 254 253 252 251 250 182 181 180 179 178' '!=' '' ']'
++ expr 0 + 1
+ cnt=1
+ '[' 1 -gt 60 ']'
+ sleep 2

etc.

-- 
-Mike Orr, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Meta and Alt keys

[Tim Moore]

> Rob Mahurin writes:

> On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 05:36:17PM -0700, Gary L. Hennigan wrote:
>> Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> 
>> | I think it would be really handy to change my keymap (either in X
>> | or the console, or both) so that Alt is an Alt key and the
>> | useless Win95 Start key is a Meta key.
>> 
>> Hmm, I thought this was the default. I seem to distinctly remember
>> changing that around because I hated those d*mn Windows keys so
>> much I removed them from my keyboard! I'm using slink on my main
>> system so maybe that's the difference?

> I bet it is.  I'm running hamm.

Also, make sure that your XF86Config XkbModel parameter is set to
"pc104".

Tim Moore

Re: dpkg, apt, ftp

[David B. Teague]

John

Many thanks. I'm home free now.

I would have rtfm'd the man pages as is suggested by the dselect apt
methond, only it is a catch 22:  I don't have man pages because I can't
install, because I dont have the information in the man pages 

This helps, thanks.

All: there should be man pages in the base package -- if not full man
pages, and binaries, then certainly enough information that how to specify
an ftp login and password is clear. 

--David
Debian GNU/Linux: Because reboots are for hardware and kernel upgrades.

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:

> 
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, David B. Teague wrote:
> 
> > Would some kind soul tell me how to specify an ftp login 
> > and password when using dselect, apt-ftp access -- so I 
> > can use this access method with my local archive.
> 
> Hm, it should be
> 
> ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/debian
> 
> Read the sources.list man page, it says exactly.
> 
> Jason
> 

Re: fetchmail crashes

[Tadeusz Bak]

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:

> 
> Fetchmail has been crashing on me recently.  The error is:
> 
> 
> fetchmail: reading message 11 of 120 (2244 bytes) . (log message incomplete)
> fetchmail: SMTP error: 501 <@adam.ist.flinders.edu.au> : colon expected after 
> route
> fetchmail: SMTP error: 501  : sender address must contain a domain
> fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from adam.ist.flinders.edu.au
> 

I observe exactly the same in my system from time to time. I have 
Debian 2.0 (hamm) with fetchmail 4.3.9-1 and exim 2.05-1. Unfortunately I
have no idea how to fix it.

--
  Tad

mutt with pgp support?

[Chris Frost]

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Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
gpgp)?

I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
anything which pine does better?

thanks,
Chris
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Compiling a new kernel.

[James R. Lunsford]

I'd like to go from 2.0.34 to 2.0.35.   I'm moving kind of slow because
I'm using the SuSE 3DLabs xserver for my Creative Labs video card, and
I've heard that it won't work with kernels above 2.0.34 and I recently
heard that it WILL work with 2.0.35.

Anyway, I've had to recompile my existing kernel a few times, once for
sound and once for the hell of it, so I've done that.  But whenever I
did it I just changed to '/usr/src/linux' and did the 'make menuconfig'
config thing and configured the kernel.  I've got the 2.0.35 source and
I've got the updated kernel package for Debian but I noticed one thing:
/usr/src/linux is linked to the 2.0.34 directory.  Am I correct in
assuming that I have to relink /usr/src/linux to the 2.0.35 directory?

Anyway, can someone give me a down and dirty way to do this?  Also, what
are the steps for compiling a kernel?  I've done it before, but I'm a
"scrap of paper" kind of guy.  I jot down notes as I go along from
readmes, how-to's, whatever and at one time I had the process pretty
well described on 3 or 4 scraps of paper, but I think I'm missing a
scrap or two.  I promise if someone gives me the steps, I'll organize
them and keep 'em.  Or better yet, is the process described pretty well
in the readme's for the source (2.0.35)?  I'm pretty sure that that's
pretty close to the way that I did it the other 2 times, but the
procedure is described differently in the kernel package readmes.

TIA

--
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Re: Minicom problem

[ktb]

> Quoting ktb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Hi, I'm trying to use minicom to dial up my isp.  It dials and then asks
> > for a login and password.  After I do this I get the following error:
> >
> > login: x
> > Password:xx
> > PPP session from (12.13.120.16) to 207.140.121.113
> > beginning~y}#.!}!}!}~
> > NO CARRIER
>
> Looks fine to me, so long as there's a time interval between the
> last two lines. You need to run pppconfig with the chat method
> of authentication. The when you type pon and it sees the ppp
> garbage (~y}#.!}!}!}~), it'll exchange LCP and you'll be on.
>
> > If I put an "S" in front of my login name it takes me to a shell
> > account.  I don't know what that is really but what I want is to be able
> > to access the internet and use Netscape.
>
> Then you don't need the shell account, just the ppp connection.
>
> > The reason I'm trying minicom
> > is I'm having a modem problem when I use "pon" and "poff"; if you have
> > been following the "modem freezeup" string you'll know what I'm talking
> > about.  How do I get this to work?
>
> Tell pppconfig the username and password as above, using chat
> (not chap or pap) authentication.
>
> Cheers,
>
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I feel bad that I can't get this figured out but I have reread the minicom man 
page
and I can't figure out how to log on to my isp with minicom.  I have rerun 
pppconfig
I put in "binary.net" in the first line, which is my default.  Using "chat" as
instructed.  Doing that I would think would rewrite the old file not just 
create a
new one.  I can get online with pon by itself ok.  When I use minicom it still
connects as I described in the message above.  When you said, "when you type 
pon and
it sees the ppp
garbage (~y}#.!}!}!}~), it'll exchange LCP and you'll be on."  What did you 
mean?
What is LCP?  When I use minicom to dial my isp then I can't use pon; I get an 
error
message to the effect that, ttyS0 is being used, when I do so.  I don't 
understand
this.  When I use minicom it is like I'm online but not online.  I pick up my 
phone
and it sounds like I'm online but my email program (netscape) can't access 
mail, like
I'm not online.  Then after awhile the connection stops and then the message "No
Carrier."   I could sure use some help.
Thanks,
Kent

Re: User names.

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Wong wrote:

>   For Debian, user names are limited to 8 characters.. as well
> as the passwords. How can this be, lengthened? ... as well as long
> email addreses? ie:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I don't know how you'd go about lengthening the user name limit (I get
the feeling it would require modification of several programs, though),
but I do know that the user name in those email addresses is not the acual
user name on the system.  They're aliases that redirect email to the
correct user account.  So you could log in as cw, but your email address
could be chris.wong.

Setting up an alias if you use smail as your MTA is easy. Just add a line
to /etc/aliases.  In my case, I added:
noah.meyerhans: frodo

So mail sent to noah.meyerhans goes to frodo.  This is often used as a
security mechanism: The actual user names are kept secret and only the
aliases are given out.  If a person doesn't know your login name, there's
far less of a likelyhood that they'll be able to use your account to break
into the system (in case you happen to have a weak password or something).

noah

  PGP public key available at
  http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html
  or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

  This message was composed in a 100% Microsoft free environment.


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Re: netscape library dependencies?

[Ed Cogburn]

Chris Ryan wrote:
> 
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Chris Ryan wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Further to this problem: I assumed that netscape is libc5 only, and
> >
> > There is a libc6 version of NS Communicator on ftp.netscape.com.
> > As you go deeper in the path, select the 'unsupported' branch when
> > you come to it.  The libc6 based Communicator tarballs have
> > 'glibc2' in their name (glibc2=libc6).
> >
> > > redirected library loads to /usr/lib/libc5-compat (using
> > > LD_LIBRARY_PATH). This found the libc5 versions of most libraries, and
> >
> > I haven't found LD_LIBRARY_PATH necessary, at least it wasn't
> > necessary for wp8 (also libc5 based).  Just make sure the
> > libc5-compat paths are in /etc/ld.so.conf, and you've updated
> > things with 'ldconfig'.
> >
> > > the libg++.so.27 and libstdc++.so.27 that are ONLY in the libc5
> > > directory. But this showed that a library libXpm.so.4 was not found.
> > > This appears to be only in the libc6 set.
> > >
> > > This is very confusing. It appears that netscape uses both libc5
> > > libraries (libg++.so.27 and libstdc++.so.27) as well as libc6 ones (eg.
> > > libXpm.so.4). But this is unlikely/impossible, as far as I can see. So,
> > > is there a libc5 version of libXpm.so.4 somewhere?
> > >
> > > Cheers, Chris.
> >
> > It is confusing, alas.  What you stumbled on is the fact that NS
> > Communicator (or are you using the limited 'navigator' version?)
> > is built against both libc6 and *X Window* libs.  The problem is
> > the X libs NS wants *themselves* have to be built under libc5.  So
> > the libs in usr/lib/libc5-compat/ are mainly X libs that are
> > needed for this reason.  The libc5 lib itself is in /lib/.  The
> > Xpm lib you're looking for is a libc5-built X Window lib.  So to
> > get NS working, you need 'libc5', 'xlib6', and 'xpm4.7' from the
> > 'oldlibs' section as displayed in dselect.
> > At the moment I can't remember if the C++ libs are important.  I
> > *think* the old libc5 versions of NS can use the current ones.  On
> > the other hand I have an older version of libstdc++ installed
> > (oldlibs section), and I don't know why.
> >
> > --
> > Ed C.
> 
> Thanks for this Ed. I'm new to Linux, and so there's alot of info in
> your message here to think about... But I'm still unclear on a couple of
> things:
> 
> 1. I got NS Communicator (not just the base nav as I implied) by
> following the www download links on NS home page. As you say, this
> appears to be libc5.


Use ftp protocol and connect to ftp.netscape.com, and follow the
'communicator' sub dir.  You'll eventually run into a dir with
'supported' and 'unsupported' sub dirs.  Following 'unsupported'
will eventually get you to the libc6 version (it has 'glibc2' in
its name).


> 2. I have NS working now by installing xpm4.7 (libc5 version of
> libXpm.so.4 from /oldlibs) and by using LD_LIBRARY_PATH assigned to
> /usr/lib/libc5-compat. (I now have a script linked from /usr/lib that
> uses LD_LIBRARY_PATH.)

I don't understand this.  I *never* needed to mess with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH for either NS (back when I was using the libc5
version, or Wordperfect (wp8), which also needs libc5.


> 3. I worry about having both /usr/lib/libc5-compat and X11 libs both in
> a search list (this I assume is what /etc/ld/so/conf is - I look in a
> moment...). This is because both /usr/lib/libc5-compat and
> /usr/X11R6/lib both have identical library link names for many libraries
> that NS uses. You can test this by using ldd and in turn making the load
> path look in each directory first. NS finds the libraries in both areas.
> On a search path list, it will just use the ones it finds first,
> irrespective of whether they are libc5 or libc6. Is this not so?
> 
> Cheers, Chris.


The libs may have the same filename, but they have a different
'header' in the lib itself.  This 'header' is inspected by
ldconfig when its run.  ldconfig should be able to determine the
libs used for an executable program (i.e., linked against libc4,
libc5, and libc6).  At least its done so for me.  This explanation
is in one of the manpages for ldconfig/ldd/ld.so.


-- 
Ed C.

Severe DOS under 2.2.1

[M.C. Vernon]

Dear all,

Yesterday I had the rather disconcerting happening of my machine
running a massive DOS in my abscence. I have an NE2000 card, and compiled
a 2.2.1 kernel at 00.05 on Thursday morning, then went to bed. I then got
up at about 7am, and did some ssh. I went out at 8. About 11pm, my machine
started spewing random stuff out at full wack (10Mbits per sec), causing
half the college network and a router to die. Since then, it has behaved
fine (plugged in behind another box incase it repeats), and there is
nothing in the kernel config or any logs to suggest anything
extraordinary.

DoeS aNy Body have any ideas what might have caused this, or any more
diagnostics I could run?

Regards,

Matthew

And no, none of the network admins were running tcpdump at the time

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Re: Severe DOS under 2.2.1

[Nathan E Norman]

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote:

 : Dear all,
 : 
 :  Yesterday I had the rather disconcerting happening of my machine
 : running a massive DOS in my abscence. I have an NE2000 card, and compiled
 : a 2.2.1 kernel at 00.05 on Thursday morning, then went to bed. I then got
 : up at about 7am, and did some ssh. I went out at 8. About 11pm, my machine
 : started spewing random stuff out at full wack (10Mbits per sec), causing
 : half the college network and a router to die. Since then, it has behaved
 : fine (plugged in behind another box incase it repeats), and there is
 : nothing in the kernel config or any logs to suggest anything
 : extraordinary.
 : 
 : DoeS aNy Body have any ideas what might have caused this, or any more
 : diagnostics I could run?

Sounds like a smurf attack.  I'll track down the URL and send it to you
if you wish - I'm at home, tired, and lazy :)

(smurf is "solved" with routers, generally, so you should run the info
at the URL by your admins and see if they've made the changes).

--
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Re: Severe DOS under 2.2.1 (fwd)

[Nathan E Norman]

Dammit, sense of duty wins out over laziness.  *sigh*

http://www.quadrunner.com/~chuegen/smurf.cgi

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 1999 22:36:41 -0600 (EST)
From: Nathan E Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Debian User 
Subject: Re: Severe DOS under 2.2.1

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, M.C. Vernon wrote:

 : Dear all,
 : 
 :  Yesterday I had the rather disconcerting happening of my machine
 : running a massive DOS in my abscence. I have an NE2000 card, and compiled
 : a 2.2.1 kernel at 00.05 on Thursday morning, then went to bed. I then got
 : up at about 7am, and did some ssh. I went out at 8. About 11pm, my machine
 : started spewing random stuff out at full wack (10Mbits per sec), causing
 : half the college network and a router to die. Since then, it has behaved
 : fine (plugged in behind another box incase it repeats), and there is
 : nothing in the kernel config or any logs to suggest anything
 : extraordinary.
 : 
 : DoeS aNy Body have any ideas what might have caused this, or any more
 : diagnostics I could run?

Sounds like a smurf attack.  I'll track down the URL and send it to you
if you wish - I'm at home, tired, and lazy :)

(smurf is "solved" with routers, generally, so you should run the info
at the URL by your admins and see if they've made the changes).

--
Nathan Norman
MidcoNet  410 South Phillips Avenue  Sioux Falls, SD
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finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)

Re: mutt with pgp support?

[Joey Hess]

Chris Frost wrote:
> I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
> people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
> compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
> are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license);

Speed, configurability, less memory use, colors, threading...

> is there anything which pine does better?

Ease of set up, has internal editor.

-- 
see shy jo

Re: fetchmail crashes

[Carl Johnson]

Tadeusz Bak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Fetchmail has been crashing on me recently.  The error is:
> > 
> > 
> > fetchmail: reading message 11 of 120 (2244 bytes) . (log message incomplete)
> > fetchmail: SMTP error: 501 <@adam.ist.flinders.edu.au> : colon expected 
> > after 
> > route
> > fetchmail: SMTP error: 501  : sender address must contain a domain
> > fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from 
> > adam.ist.flinders.edu.au
> > 
> 
> I observe exactly the same in my system from time to time. I have 
> Debian 2.0 (hamm) with fetchmail 4.3.9-1 and exim 2.05-1. Unfortunately I
> have no idea how to fix it.
> 

I had similar problems a while ago, and when I asked here, I was
advised to add the following to my /etc/exim.conf:

   sender_unqualified_hosts = my.domain.com

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Re: New User - Debian?

[Ed Cogburn]

Leonardo Bermudez wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm still not a full new user because i still havn't stall any Linux
> yet.
> 
> I got a Debian CD version 1.3.1, i know that is old and current version
> is 2.0.
> 
> Before I download the 2.0 version and install it on my P350 PC, I would
> like to know what other options with pros/cons do I have beside Debian
> and RedHat?
> 
> I'm just installing to learn and for curiosity, i had some experience
> with sun workstations and solaris so i'm not afraid of the unix
> enviroment, just to wipe my HD  (AGAIN )  :-)
> Regards
> 
> Leo
> 


A significent number of people would say that RedHat is 'easier'
to install then Debian, but after the install, Debian is better. 
Debian has what I believe to be a better package management system
(dselect/apt/dpkg) than RedHat, but the bottom line is it comes
down to your preference.
Why not get RedHat and Debian 2.0 on CD and try *both* of them
and use the one you like better.  You can get very inexpensive
CD's of both from places like http://www.cheapbytes.com.


-- 
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Extreme Security Suggestions?

[Timothy Hospedales]

Hi, 
I am wondering what is the recommended way to secure a sizeable volume (0.5-2GB
) of confidential data such that it is non-retreivable/unusable even in the
event that a hacker has gained user level or  root access?

I have thought of some kind of encryption; but I haven't seen anything fast
enough to make that practical given that I would have to re-encrypt the whole
data set after working on it. I also thought of simply having a dedicated
partition for the data in question and unmounting it when I leave the machine.
But I suppose a hacker with root access could easily remount it. Which leaves
the option of having a dedicated physical drive and unplugging it when I leave.
But that is annoying since I would have to leave my machine open all the time.
:(. So any other suggestions, comments?

Thanks!
Timothy
PS: I have no intention of letting a hacker gain access to my machine; but its
nice to be prepared for the worst. ;).

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KDE & Toolbar icons...

[Brant Wells]

Howdy Y'all!

I had to reformat my Linux box because NT screwed up the partitions... I 
re-installed everything from scratch...But this time, I'm having new 
problems...

With KDE, the KDE Icons (like in the kfm) appear as black blocks or 
trashy images...I'm using KDE 1.0, off of the Debian Archive 1 cd 
(August 98)...  can anyone help?

Thankx,
Brant

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Re: Extreme Security Suggestions?

[Jolyon Suthers]

>Hi,
>I am wondering what is the recommended way to secure a sizeable volume
(0.5-2GB
>) of confidential data such that it is non-retreivable/unusable even in the
>event that a hacker has gained user level or  root access?
>
>I have thought of some kind of encryption; but I haven't seen anything fast
>enough to make that practical given that I would have to re-encrypt the
whole
>data set after working on it. I also thought of simply having a dedicated
>partition for the data in question and unmounting it when I leave the
machine.
>But I suppose a hacker with root access could easily remount it. Which
leaves
>the option of having a dedicated physical drive and unplugging it when I
leave.
>But that is annoying since I would have to leave my machine open all the
time.
>:(. So any other suggestions, comments?
>
The best option that I know about is the Cryptographic File System. When
mounted
you can't tell the difference between it and any other type of file system;
but if you
haven't got it mounted - the data is encrypted (equivilent to PGP I think in
quality)

You used to be able to get it from the Non-US archive. I don't know if you
still can though.

Jolyon

Re: fetchmail crashes

[Alec Smith]

That's odd... I've been using Samba for awhile and have not had problems
with Fetchmail. Where I have run into trouble is with Sendwhale and the
mail gatewaying/queueing system I have setup. For awhile I had one massive
mail loop. :(

What I have NOT gotten to work is .fetchamilrc

Alec




On 4 Feb 1999, Carl Johnson wrote:

> Tadeusz Bak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Fetchmail has been crashing on me recently.  The error is:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > fetchmail: reading message 11 of 120 (2244 bytes) . (log message 
> > > incomplete)
> > > fetchmail: SMTP error: 501 <@adam.ist.flinders.edu.au> : colon expected 
> > > after 
> > > route
> > > fetchmail: SMTP error: 501  : sender address must contain a domain
> > > fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from 
> > > adam.ist.flinders.edu.au
> > > 
> > 
> > I observe exactly the same in my system from time to time. I have 
> > Debian 2.0 (hamm) with fetchmail 4.3.9-1 and exim 2.05-1. Unfortunately I
> > have no idea how to fix it.
> > 
> 
> I had similar problems a while ago, and when I asked here, I was
> advised to add the following to my /etc/exim.conf:
> 
>sender_unqualified_hosts = my.domain.com
> 
> -- 
> Carl Johnson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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??? Mysterious recurring problem with X video...

[rich]

Hey there everybody,

I've decided to try and figure out a problem (with y'alls help!) that
has bugged me since the days of Bo - setting up my X video. I've tried
reading all of the documentation, but to no avail. Here's my situation:

At 8 bpp, I have no problems (except the normal lame-looking color
dithering)...

At 16 bpp and higher, everything looks good EXCEPT for a thin (roughly
1/2") vertical stripe of the screen (about 3" from the left side, going
from top to bottom) that kind of "shimmers" whenever letters or pictures
are positioned immediately over it (it can't be seen against a "normal"
background)

Here is some crucial setup info:

Sceptre P73 17" monitor
from the manual:
Horizontal: 30-70
Vertical: 50-120
Video bandwidth: 100MHz
Max resolution: 1280x1024

I found a webpage with some info about this monitor... 

it says Horizontal of 24-66 - I put this in the config file and it seems
to work a LITTLE better)

it also says video bandwidth is 110MHz

it also says max resolution is 1280x1024 @ 60Hz, and max flicker-free is
1024x768 @ 76 Hz

>From the config file:
Section "Monitor"
HorizSync   24-66
VertRefresh 50-120
Modeline "1024x768" 85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
Modeline  "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -hsync -vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
   BoardName   "ATI Pro Turbo+PC2TV, 3D Rage II+DVD"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Driver  "Accel"
   DefaultColorDepth 16
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth16
  Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth24
  Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
  Depth32
  Modes"1024x768" "800x600"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

ATI 3d Rage II+DVD w/ 4MB video memory

Info from Win'95 video (which runs fine):
1152x864
32bpp
Horiz: 45.9
Vert: 47
refresh rate: 47 Hz

THANKS IN ADVANCE! THIS IS THE LAST THING NEEDED TO HAVE MY SYSTEM
RELATIVELY TROUBLE-FREE!

Rich

Re: User names.

[Rob Mahurin]

Hmmm ... I didn't know about this limit when I installed and used a
ten-character username and an eight or nine-character password.  When I log
in, I have to use the full username (alphenglor), and my home dir is
/home/alphenglor, but files owned by me are shown as alphengl.alphengl (I'm
not at a terminal with a mouse and can't paste an ls -l to be explicit, 
sorry).  I think that my password was truncated at eight characters, though,
as sometimes I would swear that I hit an extra key at the end but I can
still get in.

As far as mail aliases go, though, you can set up your MTA to do that;
/etc/aliases, I think.

Rob

On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 06:06:25PM -0800, Chris Wong wrote:
> Hmm,
> 
>   For Debian, user names are limited to 8 characters.. as well
> as the passwords. How can this be, lengthened? ... as well as long
> email addreses? ie:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   Thanks.
> 
> Chris Wong | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AD Digital Media Inc. (c) 1999
> http://addm.com/
> 
> 
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Re: fetchmail, why does it do this?

[Ingo Hohmann]

At 21:26 04.02.99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> (I get some obscure errors, suddenly:
>> skipping message 880 not flushed
>> reading message 881 of 1261 (3233 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP error: 501
<@public.uni-hamburg.de> : colon expected after route
>> fetchmail: SMTP error: 501  : sender address must contain a domain
>Someone put a domain-less address in the sender-field, and your
>smtp software is rejecting it for that reason.  Not a fetchmail problem.

But then, it shouldn't stop fetchmail from downloading the other mails on
my server, should it?

>> fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from public.uni-hamburg.de
>> )
>> 
>> I found this:
>> I have a local user named tester, and try to get his mail with fetchmail,
>> this works only if I send to address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> it does not work with: tester or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>This is not a fetchmail problem, it is your smtp software. (exim/smail/
>sendmail/...)  It is set up to allow mail to/from only some
>domains, debian.virtual.de.host is apparently not one of them.
>You may have to set it up so it appends a default domain
>when you enter only a username too.

But debian.virtual.de.host is my own system, and I am able to _MAIL_ to
[EMAIL PROTECTED], it appears in his spool file, only fetchmail 
won't get it back...

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Re: Kernel 2.2.1.

[John Carter]

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Wong wrote:


> I'm having troubles. I've just compiled the 2.2.1 kernel, and everything
> seems to be okay when compiling. But, when I restart my machine, it
> complains when it loads my modules. It says that my
> 
> /lib/modules/2.2.1/modules.dep is empty!

Most probable cause...

You didn't do the (make modules;make modules_install) steps of the
kernel compile.

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Don't cry Billy.

Printing a landscape postscript file. How?

[Mark Phillips]

I have a 2 page postscript file, each page is A4 size, but lying on
its side, ie landscape mode.  When I try and print, it doesn't work
properly --- it is printed the wrong way round causing part of it to
be chopped off.  Ie, it thinks the file contains portrait pages when
in reality it contains landscape pages.

How do I fix this?

I've tried various things with no success.

Thanks,

Mark.



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hamm proposed-updates

[Dimitri.p]

Hi all,
when attempting to install packages from the proposed-updates directory,
some of them complain that libc6.1 (2.7.0u) is required but it not available.

I have not found any libc6.1 2.7.0u as a package to install. 
Is there a workaround or should I just move to slink and forget the
proposed-updates altogether?

Your thoughts will be appreciated :)

Thanks,

dimitri 

Re: mutt with pgp support?

[Stephen A. Witt]

On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Frost wrote:

> Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
> gpgp)?
> 
> I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine after hearing how many
> people use it here, and after a day of fixing problems trying to get it to
> compile on my boxes. :( If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
> are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
> anything which pine does better?
> 
> thanks,
> Chris

Does mutt have a nice built in address book like pine? Does mutt do the
IMAP thing like pine? Is mutt able to lookup email addresses from an X.500
directory server via LDAP? Uh, these are legitimate questions, meaning I
really don't know the answers. I wasn't trying to be a smarta*s. 

These features have become really essential for me. I have a Debian
machine at work that is my team's mail server to which I connect via
pine/IMAP from home, other software development workstations in our lab,
and remotely via a laptop when I'm on travel. The IMAP functionality
in pine works really great, I love having this central email
repository regardless of where I am physically.

I wish pine had color and that the license thing could be solved more to
Debian's liking. Some would like a glitzier X Windows-based display
(though I would argue that the curses style display had a lot of utility).
When I used mutt several years ago, I seem to remember that it was rather
confusing to configure, whereas pine has a nice built in configuration
utility with on-line help.

Ultimately, though, one's choice of a mail user agent is pretty
subjective, like editors :)  Maybe you should just try mutt for a while
and see if you like it better.
 

Re: off topic - Assembler using GCC

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 12:09:18AM +0800, ivan wrote:
> I tried checking the source code of svgalib - if it's going to remain as
> difficult as it seems I may find a simpler project.
> 
> I was hoping that there would be a simple method of getting permission from
> the kernel for this operation and for direct access to video memory/registers.

Isn't INT 10 the video BIOS, which will be inaccessible from protected
mode anyway?


Hamish
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Re: Samba 2.0.0 - are there any deb's?

[Hamish Moffatt]

On Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:55:54PM -0500, Chris Hoover wrote:
> I just d/l'd the samba packages from the stated directory and
> installed/configured them with dpkg.  But it appears that sambaconfig
> was removed.  What am I supposed to use to configure samba?

In the old days we used to edit these things by hand!

I never heard of sambaconfig before. It appears to be debian specific.


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Re: Printing a landscape postscript file. How?

[Frank Barknecht]

Mark Phillips hat gesagt: // Mark Phillips wrote:

> I have a 2 page postscript file, each page is A4 size, but lying on
> its side, ie landscape mode.  When I try and print, it doesn't work
> properly --- it is printed the wrong way round causing part of it to
> be chopped off.  Ie, it thinks the file contains portrait pages when
> in reality it contains landscape pages.
> 
> How do I fix this?
> 
> I've tried various things with no success.

Did you try "gv"? This graphic ghostscript frontend (similar to ghostview) 
has some easy to use options for changing the orientation of postscript
files. 

Other than that "mpage" or "enscript" are tools you might want to look at
(the man pages).
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Re: Minicom problem

[Anthony Campbell]

On 04 Feb 1999q, ktb wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I feel bad that I can't get this figured out but I have reread the minicom 
> man page
> and I can't figure out how to log on to my isp with minicom.  I have rerun 
> pppconfig
> I put in "binary.net" in the first line, which is my default.  Using "chat" as
> instructed.  Doing that I would think would rewrite the old file not just 
> create a
> new one.  I can get online with pon by itself ok.  When I use minicom it still
> connects as I described in the message above.  When you said, "when you type 
> pon and
> it sees the ppp
> garbage (~y}#.!}!}!}~), it'll exchange LCP and you'll be on."  What did you 
> mean?
> What is LCP?  When I use minicom to dial my isp then I can't use pon; I get 
> an error
> message to the effect that, ttyS0 is being used, when I do so.  I don't 
> understand
> this.  When I use minicom it is like I'm online but not online.  I pick up my 
> phone
> and it sounds like I'm online but my email program (netscape) can't access 
> mail, like
> I'm not online.  Then after awhile the connection stops and then the message 
> "No
> Carrier."   I could sure use some help.
> Thanks,
> Kent
> 

If it's of any consolation (don't suppose it is) I find exactly the same
thing. I use dip to connect as a rule and this works fine. I've tried
minicom because dip isn't working on my new laptop; I get as far as the
garbage, like you, but nothing more.

Anthony


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Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?

[Åsmund Ødegård]

Thu, 04 Feb skrev Steve Lamb:
> >I'm looking for a bit of software that'll let me use a combination of
> >key strokes (in X) where a mouse is called for.  Numberpad '6' moves
> >pointer to the right; '5' simulates a click -- that kind of thing.
> 
> X does this already.

I'm also interested in this, do you have a pointer somewhere (url/man/whatever)


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Networking Debian and Win 95

[Peter Ludwig]

I am trying to setup IPX networking on my main system at home, and I have
run into a few major problems.

1) While my network card is detected and setup by ifconfig, it's address
is not being used as the address for network traffic (i.e. squake seems to
like 127.0.0.1 and I can't force it to use another IP address).

2) The secondary machine (a compaq running win95A) is unable to find my
computer on the network even though SAMBA is setup (and apparantly
running, i.e. it reports no error messages), I am also unable to even get
a glimpse (over the network that is) of the Win 95 Machine.  I have
recompiled the kernal so many times (enabling different options which
appear to be the correct ones), that I'm worried about the Hard disk
surface in for the usr/src/linux tree :)

3) squake is refusing to believe I have IPX, even though I am running
everything as specified in the IPX documentation (all docs relating to
ipx, man pages, howto's, etc).

I mainly wish to be able to run squake against my flatmate (who is running
the compaq), we can get a quake game going if I run any other OS, so the
network hardware is fine...  I just can't seem to setup the
network under linux .

I have setup Internet access from the linux box  So I'm hoping I
can get things setup locally :)

Regards,
Peter Ludwig

IRC

[Daniel Doro Ferrante]

Hi All.

I have to set up an IRC server. That's all right.
But I also have to let a channel open in this same server, because
I want my students to log in this channel as soon as they enter irc
(bitchx -c   or  irc -c ). "Once upon a time", it was
done using something called "bots", that were basically users that never
logged off (not counting power fails :). They were some kind of "scripts" I
believe, but it was ages ago. 

Could somebody tell me (or point me some document where I can read
about it, because in Debian's manuals pages I was not able to find any
reference to anything like this) How can I do this. In short: I am setting
this server for my 1999 math class and, I want them to talk with
themselves. In order to do so, they will be getting accounts on Linux Boxes
(or will connect using vncservers) and I would like to hava an alias like
this:

alias chat 'bitchx -c  -n $USER irc.socrates.if.usp.br'

I could not understand the use of the config files: .ircrc or
.bitchxrc. Any help is more than welcome!

Daniel.

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debian installation on HP netserver LH3

[Philippe BARBELET]

How can I install the debian distribution on a HP netserver LH3 whith
3 disks under HP Netraid system ?

Thanks.


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RE: Extreme Security Suggestions?

[Paulo J. da Silva e Silva]

Hi,

Probably isn't a goot idea (I really believe that there is a better software
solution), but have you considered some removable storing device, like jazz
drive from iomega? I only saying this since you have considered having a
dedicated hard drive.

Paulo. 

Timothy Hospedales writes:
 > Hi, 
 > I am wondering what is the recommended way to secure a sizeable volume 
 > (0.5-2GB
 > ) of confidential data such that it is non-retreivable/unusable even in the
 > event that a hacker has gained user level or  root access?
 > 
 > I have thought of some kind of encryption; but I haven't seen anything fast
 > enough to make that practical given that I would have to re-encrypt the whole
 > data set after working on it. I also thought of simply having a dedicated
 > partition for the data in question and unmounting it when I leave the 
 > machine.
 > But I suppose a hacker with root access could easily remount it. Which leaves
 > the option of having a dedicated physical drive and unplugging it when I 
 > leave.
 > But that is annoying since I would have to leave my machine open all the 
 > time.
 > :(. So any other suggestions, comments?
 > 
 > Thanks!
 > Timothy
 > PS: I have no intention of letting a hacker gain access to my machine; but 
 > its
 > nice to be prepared for the worst. ;).
 > 
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RE: KDE & Toolbar icons...

[Paulo J. da Silva e Silva]

Hello,

There was a problem with this package. I remember you could solve it by
installing some kde?-dev_.deb (I believe it was
kdesupport0g-dev_980306.deb). 

A better solution would be to fetch the KDE 1.1 pre2  packages. Take a look at
the kde page (www.kde.org).

Have fun.

Paulo.

Brant Wells writes:
 > Howdy Y'all!
 > 
 > I had to reformat my Linux box because NT screwed up the partitions... I 
 > re-installed everything from scratch...But this time, I'm having new 
 > problems...
 > 
 > With KDE, the KDE Icons (like in the kfm) appear as black blocks or 
 > trashy images...I'm using KDE 1.0, off of the Debian Archive 1 cd 
 > (August 98)...  can anyone help?
 > 
 > Thankx,
 > Brant
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Re: SAMBA question

[Nils Rennebarth]

 On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 01:39:12PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> At 11:02 PM 2/3/1999 +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote:
> >Hi. I would like to create one public and one password-protected samba 
> >share on my computer. I managed to create a public one with:
> >
> >But how do I create the private share? Where do I set the password?
Samba doesn't really know the Windows security scheme very well, where there
is a password for every service instead of password for every user as it is
common in Unix.

There are several possibilities:

a) set security=user

Now every Windows user has to log into the network using a valid unix
username and the corresponding password. This is good if the windows people
use few and sensible names to log into their machines. This way, their
windows login serves as login for the Samba accounts too and they are never
asked for a password again.

Note that for encrypt passwords = yes (needed for Windows NT SR 3+ and
Windows 98) you will need to set the passwords not with the system passwd
but with the samba supplied smbpasswd. Both authentcations schemes use
incompatible hashes. You will still need a valid Unix user for every Windows
user.

b) set security=share

This tries to map the windows security model (one password per service,
independent of the user using the service) to the unix security model, i.e.
it will try to validate the given password against a certain (or several)
unix password, i.e. you have to set the password with the unix passwd
command. (Or with smbasswd if you use encrypt password = yes)
Against which one? You may specify it with the USER option, so your share
could be created with:

security = share

[Private]   
   comment = Public Stuff
   path = /home/samba/private
   public = no
   user = private

and you need a unix user "private" whose password is the password of the
share. Sounds complicated but it has a lot of advantages. Remember Unix is
multiuser.


Nils

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Re: mutt with pgp support?

[Graham Ashton]

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 12:08:01AM -0800, Stephen A. Witt wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Chris Frost wrote:
> 
> > Does the mutt included with debian (hamm) include support for pgp v5 (or
> > gpgp)?

I'm not sure. Certainly does pgp2 and pgp3 (whatever that means).

> > I'm thinking of switching over to mutt from pine 

I've done that, having used postilion inbetween. I like mutt now I'm used to
it, and got a bit pissed off with pine - it was very slow with large 
mailboxes.

> > If anyone here has used both mutt and pine, what
> > are the main things mutt offers over pine (besides the license); is there
> > anything which pine does better?

as already mentioned, pine has it's own internal editor. I've you've got
an editor that you'd like to write your emails in though, I think this is
a 'feature' of mutt.

> Does mutt have a nice built in address book like pine? 

It has a list of aliases, from which you can select the one you want. I've
not seen anything more swanky than that though.

> Does mutt do the IMAP thing like pine? 

Yes. I've not tried it, but I didn't rate pine's IMAP capabilities so mutt
might be better (i.e. quicker).

> Is mutt able to lookup email addresses from an X.500 directory server 
> via LDAP?

You can specify the name of an external program to use to lookup addresses
for you. i.e. if you have an external program that can look up addresses from
an LDAP server, you're all set.

I *really* appreciate the message threading you get in mutt for mailing
lists too. That's one of it's greatest advantages for me.

> When I used mutt several years ago, I seem to remember that it was rather
> confusing to configure, whereas pine has a nice built in configuration
> utility with on-line help.

It took me an afternoon of reading the docs to find out what all the possible
options were, and then sitting down and hacking together my .muttrc file.

There are some good example .muttrc files available (linked from the FAQ, I
think).

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Extreme Security Suggestions?

[John Gay]

Hi,
I am wondering what is the recommended way to secure a sizeable volume (0.5-2GB
) of confidential data such that it is non-retreivable/unusable even in the
event that a hacker has gained user level or  root access?

I have thought of some kind of encryption; but I haven't seen anything fast
enough to make that practical given that I would have to re-encrypt the whole
data set after working on it. I also thought of simply having a dedicated
partition for the data in question and unmounting it when I leave the machine.
But I suppose a hacker with root access could easily remount it. Which leaves
the option of having a dedicated physical drive and unplugging it when I leave.
But that is annoying since I would have to leave my machine open all the time.
:(. So any other suggestions, comments?

Thanks!
Timothy
PS: I have no intention of letting a hacker gain access to my machine; but its
nice to be prepared for the worst. ;).



This sounds like a job for a ZIP drive?  When you're done with the files, just
remove the disk. Security problems solved. You may need more than one disk, but
that's better than encrypting/decrypting all the time. For fast encryption,
check out Sarah Flannerys' encryption technique. She was awarded the Irish Young
Scientists Award recently for an encryption based on 2X2 matrixes. It seem to be
as good other encryption techniques, but ten times faster. You'll have to do a
search for it, though. I do know she published her results, I'm just not sure
where. Can anyone out there help with a URL?

Cheers,

 John Gay

Re: SAMBA question

[Andrew Loughhead]

-Original Message-

>At 11:02 PM 2/3/1999 +0100, Daniel Elenius wrote:
>>Hi. I would like to create one public and one password-protected samba
>>share on my computer. I managed to create a public one with:
>>
>>[Public]
>>   comment = Public Stuff
>>   path = /home/samba/pub
>>   public = yes
>>   writable = yes
>>   printable = no
>>   write list = @staff
>>
>>(ie. the example in the smb.conf file)
>>
>>But how do I create the private share? Where do I set the password?
>>Would be grateful for any help...

You need to understand the varieties of security on offer in SMB
networking, in particular the difference between security = user and
security = share.  Reading the smb.conf man page is a good idea also.
In any case there is no straightforward way, AFAIK, to attach a
password to a share in samba (despite the 'security = share' option).
When a user connects to a share they are allways authenticated by
their unix password.  So the user needs a unix account.  The password
is their ordinary unix password.

I suppose it might be possible to effectively get a share specific password
by creating a unix account specifically for the share, and using the 'force
user' option in smb.conf.  Actually I'm not sure if that option changes who
the user is authenticated as, it may just change who their actions are done
as.

In any case, without doing strange things, you cannot get the parrallel of
the Windows system whereby all users of a share use the same
password to access it.

Kent West wrote:
>I don't recall seeing a reply to this, so I'll give it a shot, with the
>disclaimer that I don't know what I'm talking about. I believe you have to
>set the password with the smbpasswd utility.


No, that is not correct.  The smbpasswd program is used when encrypted
passwords are used with samba.  Typically it would be when machines
running NT are the clients.  For arcane reasons detailed in the file
encrypted_passwords.txt file in the samba docs it is necessary for samba to
keep its own copy of the user passwords.  The passwords managed by
smbpasswd are still the passwords of users.  In recent samba releases
smbpasswd can also be used to change a users Windows domain password
from a unix host.

Andrew.

Re: Extreme Security Suggestions?

[homega]

Jolyon Suthers dixit:
> >
> The best option that I know about is the Cryptographic File System. When
> mounted
> you can't tell the difference between it and any other type of file system;
> but if you
> haven't got it mounted - the data is encrypted (equivilent to PGP I think in
> quality)
> 
> You used to be able to get it from the Non-US archive. I don't know if you
> still can though.

You can get it from http://www.replay.com/redhat, there's also another
improved (?) based on CFS: Transparent Cryptographic File System.  They both
use, I think, Triple DES (or DES?).  I don't think there are any binaries
for them, let alone .deb


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Re: Slink CDs available -> Australia

[Richard Lyon]

Hi Tyson,

As a satisfied customer, I would rather wait until there is an official 
release of Slink. I don't have any burning desire to run the cutting edge, but 
place more emphasis on a bug free complete distribution.

Hopefully we will still be able to pick up the CDROMs in Fitzroy when they 
become available.

Regards Richard Lyon.

Re: KDE debs

[Peter Weiss]

> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:49:00 -0500 (EST), "Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]> said:

Noah> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Noah> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> 
>> Will they run on hamm systems?
>> 

Noah> The only dependency that isn't satisfied by hamm is the Qt package.  You
Noah> need Qt 1.42 from potato.  That Qt package will install on a hamm system,
Noah> though, so you don't need to try upgrading your whole system to potato.

Sorry Noah, but the potato qt1g_1.42-1.deb depends on libc6 (>= 2.0.7u),
which is not standard on a Hamm System. You've got at least to use a
Slink-System (which is not available on CD, so let's wait another few
weeks :-().

   Peter
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Xemacs & Chinese

[Shao Zhang]

Hi,
How do I use the chinese support in Xemacs 20.2?

What input method do they support?? And how do I turn on this
support in xemacs??

Where can I get more info on this??

Thx.

Regards,

shao.

dpkg and dselect

[homega]

Hi,

I'm having some trouble using dpkg for removing packages:

~# dpkg -l

ii  elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+39-1 MIME & PGP-aware interactive mail reader

which means the package is installed, but:

~# dpkg --remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1
dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1 which
isn't installed.

I even tried:
# dpkg --force --remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1
# dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1
dpkg: need an action option

I'd like to do this through dpkg, but eventually had to do it with
dselect... what's wrong here?

Also, does dselect use the same db than dpkg (it should if dselect is dpkg's
gui)?

TIA

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Mail && Users

[Chris Hoover]

I have a simple mail question.  Is it possible for me to use my local
mail server on my debian box for my mail?  

Here is why I'm asking:
I'm [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Adduser tells me that wax_man is a bad name,
so I created a user called choover.  So, if I use fetchmail or what ever
to get mail, and send it out through my local mail, I need to let
everyone know that choover = wax_man for all outgoing/incoming mail.  

I know that fetchmail can handle this pretty easily, but I have no idea
how to handle it on the outgoing side.

Any ideas and/or stuff I should read on it?

I'm now running debian-slink.

TIA,

chris

Re: SAMBA question

[Nils Rennebarth]

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 10:49:43PM +1100, Andrew Loughhead wrote:
> Actually I'm not sure if that option changes who
> the user is authenticated as, it may just change who their actions are done
> as.
The latter one.

> In any case, without doing strange things, you cannot get the parrallel of
> the Windows system whereby all users of a share use the same
> password to access it.
I do not see anything strange in setting up a UNIX user for each share.
Although I prefer the UNIX way of things.

Nils

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Re: dpkg and dselect

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm having some trouble using dpkg for removing packages:
> 
> ~# dpkg -l
> 
> ii  elm-me+ 2.4pl25ME+39-1 MIME & PGP-aware interactive mail reader
> 
> which means the package is installed, but:
> 
> ~# dpkg --remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1
> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1 which
> isn't installed.

You are trying too hard :)  The package is elm-me+, the version is
2.4pl25ME+39-1.  You don't need to tell dpkg which version to uninstall,
there can only be one version installed, and dpkg knows which one that
is, so just type:

dpkg --remove elm-me+

This should do the trick if there are no dependencies that block you.

> I even tried:
> # dpkg --force --remove elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1
> # dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq elm-me+_2.4pl25ME+39-1

Be _very_ careful with this last option, especially don't use it if you
are uncertain about what you are doing,  and if you are certain, don't
do it anyway, think again.

> I'd like to do this through dpkg, but eventually had to do it with
> dselect... what's wrong here?
> 
> Also, does dselect use the same db than dpkg (it should if dselect is dpkg's
> gui)?

Dselect and dpkg and apt all use the same db.  It is very nice of you to
call dselect a gui :)

HTH,
Eric

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How to upgrade sendmail ?

[Ryszard Lach]

Hi!

Could anyone explain me, how to upgrade in Debian sendmail ? I'm using Debian
2.0 and I would like to upgrade my sendmail to version 8.9. How can I do that
having only sendmail's sources? I can't uninstall debianized version of sendmail
because of dependency on "mail-transport-agent". How can I solve such a
problems?

T.I.A.

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RE: apt-get update failing

[Dean . Carpenter]

Yup.  I've removed the Packages.gz files and had mirror reget them several
times.  I also tried right from the ftp site ...

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian frozen main  contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/binary-i386/

# deb file:/amnt/mirrors/debian frozen main contrib non-free
# deb file:/amnt/mirrors/debian/debian-non-US unstable non-US
# deb file:/amnt/mirrors/debian project/experimental/
fsmail:~#
fsmail:~#
fsmail:~# apt-get update
Get http://ftp1.us.debian.org frozen/contrib Packages
Get http://non-us.debian.org unstable/binary-i386/ Packages
Get http://ftp1.us.debian.org frozen/main Packages
Get http://ftp1.us.debian.org frozen/non-free Packages
Fetched 2040k in 3s (596k/s)
Updating package file cache...
E: Line 3 in package file
/var/state/apt/lists/ftp1.us.debian.org_debian_dists_frozen_main_binary-i386
_Packages is too long.(2)
fsmail:~#

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-Original Message-
From: Jason Gunthorpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 1999 7:45 PM
To: Carpenter, Dean
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: apt-get update failing


On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks to Nils and Jason for the *really* fast replies ...
> 
> Just upgraded to apt_0.1.10 from potato - same problem.  Looks like there
> are a few others out there seeing the same thing.

master{root}~#apt-get update
Get file:/debian/debian/ dists/proposed-updates/ Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/contrib Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/main Packages
Get http://nonus.debian.org unstable/non-US Packages
Get file:/debian/debian/ slink/non-free Packages 
Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/contrib Packages

Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/main Packages

Get file:/debian/debian/ stable/non-free Packages

Fetched 41.3k in 0s (50.1k/s)

Updating package file cache...done
Updating package status cache...done
Checking system integrity...ok
master{root}~#apt-get | head --lines 1
apt 0.1.5 for i386 compiled on Jul 23 1998  22:05:22 

Hmm.. Are you sure you package files are not corrupted? 

Jason

Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?

[servis]

*- On  4 Feb, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?"
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> On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:54:49 -0800 (PST), Eric House wrote:
> 
>>I'm looking for a bit of software that'll let me use a combination of
>>key strokes (in X) where a mouse is called for.  Numberpad '6' moves
>>pointer to the right; '5' simulates a click -- that kind of thing.
> 
> X does this already.
>   

I'm sorry but how about giving some pointers on how to make this
happen. A quick search didn't turn up any docs on this.

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Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a mouse?

[Ben Collins]

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 10:15:43AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> *- On  4 Feb, Steve Lamb wrote about "Re: Can a keyboard pretend to be a 
> mouse?"
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> > On Thu, 4 Feb 1999 17:54:49 -0800 (PST), Eric House wrote:
> > 
> >>I'm looking for a bit of software that'll let me use a combination of
> >>key strokes (in X) where a mouse is called for.  Numberpad '6' moves
> >>pointer to the right; '5' simulates a click -- that kind of thing.
> > 
> > X does this already.
> > 
> 
> I'm sorry but how about giving some pointers on how to make this
> happen. A quick search didn't turn up any docs on this.

I believe svgalib (the latest in slink/potato?) will do this. Only works
on svgalib programs.

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Re: dpkg and dselect

[homega]

E.L. Meijer Eric" dixit:
> 
> You are trying too hard :)  The package is elm-me+, the version is
> 2.4pl25ME+39-1.  You don't need to tell dpkg which version to uninstall,
> there can only be one version installed, and dpkg knows which one that
> is, so just type:

Thanks.
> 
> Dselect and dpkg and apt all use the same db.  It is very nice of you to
> call dselect a gui :)

well, a front end, or whatever it is, but I can see it runs dpkg for
installing, removing,... so it's an interface for dpkg?


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Horacio
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Re: dpkg and dselect

[E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)]

> 
> E.L. Meijer Eric" dixit:
[...]
> > 
> > Dselect and dpkg and apt all use the same db.  It is very nice of you to
> > call dselect a gui :)

Then replied Horacio:
> 
> well, a front end, or whatever it is, but I can see it runs dpkg for
> installing, removing,... so it's an interface for dpkg?

Yes, but the `g' of gui stands for `graphical'.  Anyway, I was just
kidding.  As you may know, there is a real gui in the works for apt.
I hope we will see this appearing in potato (comments, anyone?).

Eric Meijer

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Re: ppp not working...

[Paul Miller]

Kelly Corbin wrote:

> Question:
>
> I have slink installed, and after upgrading my kernel from 2.0.36 to
> 2.2.1, my ppp says it is not configured in the kernel or as a module. I
> don't know a whole lot about ppp and just use pppconfig to setup my
> dialup.  When booting, it doesn't say "ppp line discipline" or whatever
> it says anymore either.  I have recompiled the kernel with ppp as a
> module and directly in the kernel, but neither seems to work.  Any
> ideas?
>

Just a though, but by chance did you put serial device support into the kernel?


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Re: KDE debs

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 2/5/99 6:05:58 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> >> 
>  >> Will they run on hamm systems?
>  >> 
>  
>  Noah> The only dependency that isn't satisfied by hamm is the Qt package.  
> You
>  Noah> need Qt 1.42 from potato.  That Qt package will install on a hamm 
> system,
>  Noah> though, so you don't need to try upgrading your whole system to
potato.
> 
>  
>  Sorry Noah, but the potato qt1g_1.42-1.deb depends on libc6 (>=
2.0.7u),
>  which is not standard on a Hamm System. You've got at least to use a
>  Slink-System (which is not available on CD, so let's wait another few
>  weeks :-().
>  

You say that this version of libc6 isn't standard on hamm, but will it run on
hamm?  If I have to grab qt-1.42, I don't mind getting a new libc6 too.

Maybe I should just upgrade to slink...

Where is KDE in slink?

[Stef Hoesli Wiederwald]

I can't find the kde* packages in slink or in potato. Where are they?

Thanks a lot
Stef

Tracking changes made by installation of software

[MallarJ]

A few days ago I asked about packages that tracked installations of software.
What I was looking for is something that will keep a record of all files
added, deleted, or changed during software installation, and show you what was
changed via a report.  Several of you responded with ideas, I thought I'd get
back to you with my opinions of those packages.

tripwire

Tripwire looks like a great package for security admins, but for my 
use, I
don't think it's quite up to par.  The software monitors your system and
informs you if any file has been added, changed, or deleted.  If such a case
arises, it allows you to copy archived versions of the changed files.  This
software would be of great use to those needing to know when a user changes a
file on a system - and allows admins to prevent users from making incorrect
modifications where they shouldn't be.

The reason I can't use this package is that it doesn't show you what was
changed in a given file, just that it was changed.  In order to be able to
back out installations (if I need to), I need to know what changes were made
to my config files.


instmon

This is a great script, and almost accomplishes what I need, except for 
one
thing - it doesn't track files added or deleted.  The author says that that
functionality would require additional scans of the disk, and would slow the
process down.  Unfortunately, that's exactly what I need.



So, unless anyone else has any ideas, I'm off to start writing my first Linux
program.  I've written something similar to this for my Win/Dos machine, but
am starting fresh on coding for a Linux system.  I'll get back to you when I
have a working version.

-Jay

my kernel does not assemble!

[Mike Marsman]

Hey all ... I think I have a question for ya  (hopefully it's not
completly stupid)

I'm running deb w/ the 2.0.34 kernel installed -- I want to recompile the
kernel so I can add network support, but I've come accross a problem.

I can switch to /usr/src/linux and run 'make config' ... the I run 'make
dep' and finally 'make zImage'.  The config/dep work fine, and all the
components of the kernel compile too.. but then the make zImage falls out
on me after trying to run 'as86 ...', as86 being some program that's not
on my machine!  I've tried to search for as86, and have come up with
nothing.  I've even decompressed the kernel-2.0.34 source again, but
same problem.  Am I doing something stupid here, or is this legit?

I'm gonna try 2.2.1, and maybe that'll work okay.  It's just the as86 only
appears in the Makefile for /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel that has the
as86 defined in it.  I've tried replacing it with just plain 'ol as, but
the switches for as86 don't work -- and it won't compile w/o the
switches.. do I have to run something like 'make archdep'?

.. many thanks from a confused user ..


..Mike

Re: Where is KDE in slink?

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote:

> I can't find the kde* packages in slink or in potato. Where are they?
> 

They're on KDE's ftp site.  Debian won't distribute KDE binaries based on
pre-2.0 (read: all) versions of Qt.  Qt 2.0 is currently in beta testing,
and when it's released it will use a license that works with Debian.  This
will allow Debian to distribute KDE binary packages.

Don't bother getting the KDE 1.0 packages.  Get 1.1pre-2; they're stable
and much nicer.

noah

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Re: KDE & Toolbar icons...

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Brant Wells wrote:

> With KDE, the KDE Icons (like in the kfm) appear as black blocks or 
> trashy images...I'm using KDE 1.0, off of the Debian Archive 1 cd 
> (August 98)...  can anyone help?

Install kdelibs0g-dev.  There was an error made when packaging KDE 1.0,
and the runtime pixmaps got put in a -dev package.

Or upgrade to 1.1pre-2, which is immensely better than 1.0.  .deb's are
available on ftp.us.kde.org and all the other KDE mirrors.

noah


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Re: Where is KDE in slink?

[MallarJ]

Go to KDE's site and look for the debian/potato dir - they're in there.

Re: my kernel does not assemble!

[stephen . p . ryan]

On  5 Feb, Mike Marsman wrote:
> Hey all ... I think I have a question for ya  (hopefully it's not
> completly stupid)
> 
> I'm running deb w/ the 2.0.34 kernel installed -- I want to recompile the
> kernel so I can add network support, but I've come accross a problem.
> 
> I can switch to /usr/src/linux and run 'make config' ... the I run 'make
> dep' and finally 'make zImage'.  The config/dep work fine, and all the
> components of the kernel compile too.. but then the make zImage falls out
> on me after trying to run 'as86 ...', as86 being some program that's not
> on my machine!  I've tried to search for as86, and have come up with
> nothing.  I've even decompressed the kernel-2.0.34 source again, but
> same problem.  Am I doing something stupid here, or is this legit?
> 
> I'm gonna try 2.2.1, and maybe that'll work okay.  It's just the as86 only
> appears in the Makefile for /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel that has the
> as86 defined in it.  I've tried replacing it with just plain 'ol as, but
> the switches for as86 don't work -- and it won't compile w/o the
> switches.. do I have to run something like 'make archdep'?
> 
> .. many thanks from a confused user ..
> 
> 
> ..Mike
> 
> 
> 

I'm guessing (no, I'm positive) that you don't have the bin86 package
installed.  The long description for kernel-source-2.0.xx indicates
that on intel platforms, you also need the bin86 package if you
actually intend to compile the source.  Just grab that and install it,
and you'll be fine.  Also, unless you're compiling a kernel for a non-
Debian system, check out kernel-package.  It provides a script
(make-kpkg) that builds the kernel for you and makes a new Debian
package out of it, with a revision number that you specify; this
prevents dselect/apt/whatever from trying to replace your custom kernel
with a prepackaged kernel.  
-- 
Stephen Ryan   Debian GNU/Linux
Mathematics graduate student, Dartmouth College

RE: my kernel does not assemble!

[Shaleh]

> then the make zImage falls out on me after trying to run 'as86 ...', as86
> being some program that's not on my machine! 

YOu need bin86 package.

Re: mgetty: AutoPPP Failure

[Keith G. Murphy]

Frank Barknecht wrote:
> 
> Hello Debianites,
> 
> I am struggling to get the AutoPPP feature of mgetty to work.
> I want to connect two Debian Maschines running (mostly) Hamm.

I have a working configuration.  DISCLAIMER: This runs on RedHat 5.1. 
I'm just about to set one up for Hamm, so it will be interesting to see
if anything changes.

> In /etc/mgetty/login.config of the PPP-Server maschine I have tested
> the following lines by uncommenting each in turn:
> 
> #/AutoPPP/ -  a_ppp  /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap +pap login
> #/AutoPPP/ -  @  /usr/sbin/pppd auth -chap -pap login
> /AutoPPP/ -   @  /usr/sbin/pppd auth login +pap -chap modem crtscts proxya
> rp lock

I have /AutoPPP/ - - etc.  I don't remember what the '@' does for you. 
Shouldn't you have '-detach' in there?

> 
> /etc/ppp/pap-secrets is set up to include:
> 
> # Every regular user can use PPP and has to use passwords from /etc/passwd
> # Tested both:
> #*  fliwatut""
> *   192.168.0.1""   *
Try:

* * "" 198.162.0.50

I don't remember it being important to have the IP address of your local
machine, but it seemed to be necessary to have the address of the remote
machine in pap-secrets, if you are assigning it, as you are.  I didn't
even figure this out until I looked at the actual pppd code.  Something
about having that address assigned sends pppd down a different path,
where it's trying to match the address with something in pap-secrets. 
Probably a bug, seems to me.  You may have different results.

Good luck!

RE: dns/bind question

[pat]

On 03-Feb-99, Mário Olímpio de Menezes took time to write :
>   I need to configure this guy so that I have a working dns that be
> able to answer correctly requests for its name (paracleto). 
...
>   My problem arose when I tried to install sybase ASE. It work only
> with TCP communication and needs a correctly answer from resolver for the
> name of the host it is installed, I guess :-((

you don't need to install bind, if you need only that.

just make sure to have in /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1   localname.domain localnamelocalhost   

(separated by tab)

and in /etc/hosts.conf:
order hosts,bind


it should work...

Pat

Re: KDE debs

[MallarJ]

In a message dated 2/5/99 6:08:11 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Sorry Noah, but the potato qt1g_1.42-1.deb depends on libc6 (>= 2.0.7u),
>  which is not standard on a Hamm System. You've got at least to use a
>  Slink-System (which is not available on CD, so let's wait another few
>  weeks :-().
>  

Curious about something...

I didn't know there was a qt-1.42.deb available, so yesterday I downloaded the
qt source and compiled my own.  I have libc6.2.0.7t - do I need to upgrade to
a new version to get them to work?  I tried some of the example code that
comes with the qt source, and they seemed to work fine...

Re: Minicom problem

[John Hasler]

ktb writes:
> I feel bad that I can't get this figured out but I have reread the
> minicom man page and I can't figure out how to log on to my isp with
> minicom.

You *are* successfully logging in to your isp with minicom.  That garbage
you get is ppp starting up at the isp.  Minicom, of course, does not know
what to do with it.  Minicom is a terminal emulator program intended to
connect to bulletin boards and such.  The only reason to use it to dial up
your isp is to check out the login procedure.  When you get the garbage
you're done: you now know the procedure.  Disconnect and refer to your
notes when you run pppconfig.

> I have rerun pppconfig I put in "binary.net" in the first line, which is
> my default.  Using "chat" as instructed.  Doing that I would think would
> rewrite the old file not just create a new one.

Do you mean that in the "Provider Name" screen you changed "provider" to
"binary.net"?  That tells pppconfig to create a provider configuration
named "binary.net".  To use it, you must type "pon binary.net".  You can
have as many different providers as you want, each with a different and
completely arbitrary name.  "provider" is just the default name that pon
uses if you don't tell it anything else.  If you just leave the "Provider
Name" alone when you run pppconfig and go on, you will create a connection
named "provider" which will come up when you just type 'pon'.

> I can get online with pon by itself ok.

Then what problem are you trying to solve?

> When I use minicom it still connects as I described in the message above.

Having done that and confirmed that you know the login procedure, there is
no point in doing it again (There is a way to exit minicom without
resetting the serial port and then starting pppd, but it's complicated).

> When you said, "when you type pon and it sees the ppp garbage
> (~y}#.!}!}!}~), it'll exchange LCP and you'll be on."  What did you mean?

That pppd, unlike minicom, knows what to do with the garbage.

> What is LCP?

The protocol that your pppd and that of your isp use to negotiate the
connection.

> When I use minicom to dial my isp then I can't use pon; I get an error
> message to the effect that, ttyS0 is being used, when I do so.  I don't
> understand this.

The modem is busy.  It is not intended that you run pon while minicom is
connected.

> When I use minicom it is like I'm online but not online.  I pick up my
> phone and it sounds like I'm online but my email program (netscape) can't
> access mail, like I'm not online.  Then after awhile the connection stops
> and then the message "No Carrier."

The pppd at the isp end is patiently trying to get a response out of the
one it thinks is at your end (it's wrong).  After a while it gives up.

You now know what it takes to log on to your isp and therefor have no more
reason to dial up your isp with minicom.
-- 
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: xterm configuration

[John Bagdanoff]

Rafael

Thanks for the tip for using shift pgup-pgdn.  That helped in retrieving
my banking stuff.  

I still have the problem of getting X to recognize settings I want to
change, such as XTerm *ScrollBar, xset settings, starting
xscreensaver.   It's just like  ~/.Xresourses, is ignored. (read below) 
I'm currently comparing my slink and hamm installed packages to see if I
forgot to install something in slink that would cause the problem of not
recognizing the above settings.  I don't use apt or dselect; I just
install manually at my leisure, so if a package comes up short with a
dependency problem, I just download what I need until the package
installs without errors.  So, maybe X installed without a dependency
problem, but is still missing a obscure file or package that's not
readily apparent to me.

Any solutions, or directions are welcomed.  

Rafael Kitover wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 04, 1999 at 09:53:08AM +, John Bagdanoff wrote:
> > I've been running hamm for the past year, and just now installed slink
> > on another partition, so thru LILO, i can choose hamm, slink or (ugh!)
> > windows.
> > I run kde as my Xwindow manager, but I need to configure xterm for a
> > scrollbar, so that when I use Seyon to connect to my bank, I need the
> > scrolling in xterm so that I can view all the data when I reconcile my
> > checking account.
> > In hamm, in /etc/X11/Xresources/
> >   I added to the xterm file:
> >
> > XTerm*ScrollBar:  true
> > XTerm*saveLines: 1
> > Seyon.vt100.saveLines:  1
> >
> > and the seyon terminal comes up with scrollbar functionality, but in
> > Slink, the same entry doesn't affect xterm or the seyon terminal at all.
> > So I wrote the same changes into Xsession, theninto ~/.xsession, then
> > into /~.Xresourses, but I never could get xterm to execute with a
> > scrollbar.
> > Using the command:
> > xterm -sb
> > I get xterm with the scrollbar, but that's not the solution I can use.
> >
> > Come to think of it, I couldn't get xscreensaver or change xset settings
> > in any of the above scripts in slink.  No problem in hamm, though.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> 
> Just use shift+pgup to scroll up, and shift+pgdown to scroll down...also
> xterms have menus if you press ctrl+shift+mousebutton on the xterm
> somewhere, each button brings up a different menu (middle, or both left
> and right on a 2 button mouse with emulate3buttons also brings up one).
> Also, that resource XTerm*ScrollBar: true should work, if you put it in
> ~/.Xresources.
> 
> --
> Rafael Kitover
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>   
> 
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KDE: libkde0?

[Stef Hoesli Wiederwald]

> They're on KDE's ftp site.  Debian won't distribute KDE binaries based on

OK, I did so. I had a look into 
http://www.kde.org/documentation/en/general/userguide/index-3.html#ss3.3
There it says, that I need libkde0 which should be in
/pub/kde/unstable/distribution/dpkg
But this directory does not exist. This library also is no longer
distributet by Debian. 
It also says that I should install the debian menu package first. But
I have no idea what the debian menu package is.

Can you help me some more?

Thanks a lot!
Stef

cti-ifhp question on duplex printing

[Thomas Adams]

I use cti-ifhp in order to print on an HP4000N network printer. This device
has a duplexing unit installed and I wonder if I can use it somehow from
Linux?

how to mount remote file system?

[Kenneth Scharf]

I have a linux box serving as a web server.  This computer has no
monitor on it and is stashed in a remote corner.  I administor it via
telnet.  (Maybe the wrong way...).  I'd like to mount part of it's
filesystem on the linux box at my desk, so I can update the web pages.
 How can I do this?  I have not played with network file systems under
linux yet (except for samba, and there only being able to go from the
windows machine to my linux box ... which is how I have to download
stuff from the internet as I can't yet get the linux box to see the
internet through the corporate firewall and network).




==
Amateur Radio, when all else fails!

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inst debian on compaq proliant adaptec 2940 scsi drives

[marc]

can someone guide me to the docs to install debian on compaq proliant
with adaptec 2940 with scsi drives
i do not understand the directions following the F5 key
i can see the drives in dos but debian can not find the card or drives
thanks

Re: KDE debs

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Curious about something...
> 
> I didn't know there was a qt-1.42.deb available, so yesterday I downloaded the
> qt source and compiled my own.  I have libc6.2.0.7t - do I need to upgrade to
> a new version to get them to work?  I tried some of the example code that
> comes with the qt source, and they seemed to work fine...

It should work fine.  What I've occasionally done is download the source
to a package from the Debian ftp site (including the .diff and .dsc file)
and built my own local package.  There's really nothing in the Qt 1.42
sources that would require you to have a specific libc version; it's just
that that's the version that the maintainer built their package against.

For example, I most recently did this with xfstt, the X TrueType font
server.  I was running hamm at the time, but the slink xfstt was
supposedly much nicer.  But I didn't have the slink libc, and I didn't
ywant it.  So I got the source to the slink xfstt package and built it on
my hamm system.  As far as dpkg and dselect are concerned, I have the
slink version of the package, and I satisfy all the dependencies.

Since you've got the Qt sources already, you could just get the .diff and
.dsc file from the Debian site, and build yourself a hamm (or slink, or
whatever) package that would satisfy the dependencies of the current KDE
packages.  Unfortunately, I don't remember the procedures off-hand, and I
don't have access to my machine right now to find out.  Check out the
"source packages" section of the Debian packaging documentation on the web
site.

noah

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Re: KDE: libkde0?

[Noah L. Meyerhans]

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On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Stef Hoesli Wiederwald wrote:

> OK, I did so. I had a look into 
> http://www.kde.org/documentation/en/general/userguide/index-3.html#ss3.3
> There it says, that I need libkde0 which should be in
> /pub/kde/unstable/distribution/dpkg
> But this directory does not exist. This library also is no longer
> distributet by Debian. 

I believe what you're looking for is in
/pub/kde/stable/1.1pre2/distribution/deb/potato/binary-i386/

The package is kdelib0g

> It also says that I should install the debian menu package first. But
> I have no idea what the debian menu package is.
> 

You've probably already got it.

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Re: Where is KDE in slink?

[Mike Schmitz]

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 11:17:45AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Go to KDE's site and look for the debian/potato dir - they're in there.

ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/1.1pre2/distribution/deb/potato

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Re: Extreme Security Suggestions?

[John Kuhn]

Timothy,

There are a few encrypted filesystems for Linux.

Ones aimed at distributed filesystems (NFS replacements):
- "CFS", which has been packaged and is available from non-us.debian.org.
- "TCFS", http://tcfs.dia.unisa.it/

I used CFS several years ago and it seemed to work well.  My only
complaint was that triple DES was a bit slow on my 486/33.

Another approach which I am currently using involves patching the
kernel to provide kernel level encrypted filesystems.  I have updated
a patch for kernel 2.0.36 which was originally released in 1996 for
kernel 2.0.11.  I have gotten good results with this using IDEA
encryption on systems ranging from a 486/33 to PII-350.

There are now encryption patches available for the new 2.2.x kernels.
ftp://ftp.kerneli.org/pub/linux/kerneli/v2.2/patch-int-2.2.1.1.gz
will add encryption to linux 2.2.1.  I have not used this patch yet,
but I will give it a try as soon as I update to slink and have a
2.2.x compatible system.

When unmounted, the ability to scan the raw partition will not give
your cracker any useful information.  If they are really determined,
they could scan raw /tmp and swap partitions for traces of sensitive
data.  Whether this is an issue depends on your required security level.
When mounted, a root cracker would be able to read the all files on
the partition.  Mounting the partition requires a passphrase.

The kernel approach will require patching and building custom versions
of the kernel and mount programs.

If you want more detail on these, let me know,

John

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 12:56:56AM -0400, Timothy Hospedales wrote:
> Hi, 
> I am wondering what is the recommended way to secure a sizeable volume 
> (0.5-2GB
> ) of confidential data such that it is non-retreivable/unusable even in the
> event that a hacker has gained user level or  root access?

Re: cti-ifhp question on duplex printing

[dpk]

On Fri, 5 Feb 1999, Thomas Adams wrote:

   I use cti-ifhp in order to print on an HP4000N network
   printer. This device has a duplexing unit installed and I wonder if
   I can use it somehow from Linux?


printername
:if=/path/to/ifhp -Zduplex


Fyi,
Dennis
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Re: how to mount remote file system?

[Nils Rennebarth]

On Fri, Feb 05, 1999 at 09:25:29AM -0800, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> I have a linux box serving as a web server.  This computer has no
> monitor on it and is stashed in a remote corner.  I administor it via
> telnet.  (Maybe the wrong way...). 
ssh is much better :-) You want it.

> I'd like to mount part of it's
> filesystem on the linux box at my desk, so I can update the web pages.
On the server: install nfs-server, put

/path/to/the/webroot your.linux.box (rw)

in /etc/exports and read the exports(5) manpage. On your Linux box:
put

your.web.server:/path/to/the/webroot /mount/point nosuid,nodev 0 0

in /etc/fstab. Note the uid's and gid's of are preserved when copying files,
so you better have the same uid on both machines. root is mapped to nobody,
so make your web server pages writeable by someone else than root.

read the mount(8) manpage, especially the nfs options for more hints.
Of course you will need the NFS filesystem in your linux box.


Nils

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RE: how to mount remote file system?

[Shaleh]

On 05-Feb-99 Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> I have a linux box serving as a web server.  This computer has no
> monitor on it and is stashed in a remote corner.  I administor it via
> telnet.  (Maybe the wrong way...).  I'd like to mount part of it's
> filesystem on the linux box at my desk, so I can update the web pages.
>  How can I do this?  I have not played with network file systems under
> linux yet (except for samba, and there only being able to go from the
> windows machine to my linux box ... which is how I have to download
> stuff from the internet as I can't yet get the linux box to see the
> internet through the corporate firewall and network).
> 

Install and read the docs on NFS.  There is also a book from O'Reilly and
Associates on the subject.

You will also need to compile a kernel w/ NFS support (module or internal).

$ tar lcf - / | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvfpS -)

[Peter S Galbraith]

I'm using this to copy a filesuyem to another partition:

 $ tar lcf - / | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvfpS -)

When comparing the new and original files, I notice these
differences:

 1- All soft links have the current time as the date; the date
was not preserved:

lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Aug 17 11:24 ftpusers -> ../ftpusers
became:
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   11 Feb  5 12:47 ftpusers -> ../ftpusers

 2- permissions on /dev/printer changed:

srwxrwxrwx   1 root root0 Feb  5 06:44 printer
became:
prwxrwxrwx   1 root root0 Feb  5 06:44 printer
  
(This file could be a remnant of Slackware of something...)

How can I make the links have the same dates as before (just for
my peace of mind)?

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Install to another hdd?

[M.C. Vernon]

Dear all,

I have a machine which I want to install debian on. Unfortunatly,
it has not floppy drive; I can see a couple of possibilities:

1: put the hdd into my working linux box, and use the rescue disks to
install onto /dev/hdc (Can I then install LILO onto that hdd, and have it
boot correctly when I put it into the other machine?)

2: Cross-install base-packages etc...Which packages do I need, and again,
how do I run lilo on this machine?

Thanks,

Matthew

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RE: Install to another hdd?

[Shaleh]

On 05-Feb-99 M.C. Vernon wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
>   I have a machine which I want to install debian on. Unfortunatly,
> it has not floppy drive; I can see a couple of possibilities:
> 
> 1: put the hdd into my working linux box, and use the rescue disks to
> install onto /dev/hdc (Can I then install LILO onto that hdd, and have it
> boot correctly when I put it into the other machine?)
> 
> 2: Cross-install base-packages etc...Which packages do I need, and again,
> how do I run lilo on this machine?
> 

1. is easily doable.  lilo should be happy (make sure you write to the correct
hdd).

But why not just move the floppy over to the floppy-less machine?

Re: $ tar lcf - / | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvfpS -)

[Alex Yukhimets]

> I'm using this to copy a filesuyem to another partition:
> 
>  $ tar lcf - / | ( cd /mnt ; tar xvfpS -)

Consider using something like

find . -depth -xdev -print | cpio -dumpv /mnt


Alex Y.

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RE: Install to another hdd?

[M.C. Vernon]

> 1. is easily doable.  lilo should be happy (make sure you write to the correct
> hdd).

How? By putting boot = /dev/hdc in lilo.conf, and then specifying
/dev/hda1 as root (which is what the disk will be when it gets put in the
other machine)
 
> But why not just move the floppy over to the floppy-less machine?

Because the floppy-less machine is rather fussy about floppies :(

Matthew

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