Re: Stateless linux in Debian
On Fri 03/11/05 14:14, linux romeo wrote: > Hello, > State Linux looks like a good project to ease management of > enterprise desktops > http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/stateless/ > > is debian planning for incorporating it or is there some substitute > project for it Well, from a very cursory glance this really just seems to be barely more advanced that a cron job that runs "rsync goldserver:/ /" FAI is probably a better route to go than trying to port a Fedora-specific management system to Debian. -- ------ | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Stateless linux in Debian
On Fri 03/11/05 22:58, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 11, Josh Lauricha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, from a very cursory glance this really just seems to be barely > > more advanced that a cron job that runs "rsync goldserver:/ /" > Look again then. I did, and became even less impressed. Its a root-nfs system tied in with DHCP. The improvement over that is the cached clients: Client machines check the LDAP directory every hour to see what they should be running. If an update is detected, a caching client will automatically rsync the new file tree into its reserve partitions. Maybe I'm just missing the "new features" this provides, but it seems to be just root-nfs with a few more buzzwords. > It's not Fedora-specific. As seen on the project page: The scope of the project is the entire OS, since we are trying to improve configuration throughout all packages. How do you figure a system that requires [nearly] all packages to be modified, non-specific to that project? Every Debian package that might alter a file will need to be changed. Yes, once a ro-root is working, this is no longer the case. Again, I might just be missing the point. But FAI provides the "caching client" abilities, is amazingly flexible and is already in. I'm not saying its worthless, but it just seems like "FAI for Fedora". -- -- | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Temporal Release Strategy
On Mon 04/18/05 16:24, Adam M wrote: > Also, try providing an efficient stable security build daemons! The > chroots would have to be rebuilt for each package. Just a thought, wouldn't this be done quit efficiently with unionfs? Just install a minimalist root on one partition (or loopback). Then throw another partition/loopback over it. Then just delete the second partition every new install. Poof, all changes gone. -- ------ | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canonical and Debian
On Mon 06/06/05 20:22, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2005-06-06 19:22:08, schrieb Peter 'p2' De Schrijver: > I do not know a mirror without Raid-5 so asuming, there are someone > which use 3Ware 3w9500 + four WD360GR (around 100 GByte) and they > pay 1200 Euro for the Controller and four small 36 GByte Drives. While I don't run an official mirror, it is public (due to my laziness) for debian/sarge on x86/ppc and a "testing" AMD64 mirror. And I am just wondering why anyone would use RAID in a mirror for. RAID provides for the security of your data in case a disk fails (and occasionally performance boosts). But... its already a mirror... if my drives die, I just run debmirror The mirror will be gone for a bit, but thats not a huge loss (Usually). I guess if the network is expensive then thats an issue. But if the network is expensive why are you running a mirror in the first place? -- -- | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 3.1r0 CD/DVD image problem
On Tue 06/07/05 18:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Dropping a source package might get you into legal trouble (some of the > licenses for software in Debian require you distribute the source, so > you would need to be /very/ careful not to drop something which is under > the GPL). Since they're distributing DVDs, attaching a "written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, ..." would work. -- ------ | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#312669: /sbin/ifconfig: Add ifconfig to user path
On Fri 06/10/05 15:24, Rich Walker wrote: > What *single* command in the iproute package can I call to get the same > information as I get from ifconfig -a? Until there is one, I don't see > you can replace it. Not that I support replace ifconfig, but: $ ip -s link lists (in a different, but sane, format) everything, but the non-physical addresses of the links (now thats a dumb omission). -- ------ | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: should etch be Debian 4.0 ?
On Fri 07/08/05 09:19, Bryan Gruneberg wrote: > jokes ;-) > > Bryan I think they should be versioned by the first number said by the character their named after... so buzz should have been 4 -- -- | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | || | Geek Code: Version 3.12| | GAT/CS$/IT$ d+ s-: a-->--- C$ UL$ P++ L| | $E--- W+ N o? K? w--(---) O? M+(++) V? PS++ PE-(--)| | Y+ PGP+++ t--- 5+++ X+ R tv DI++ D--- G++ | | e++ h- r++ z? | || -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier
On Wed 10:51, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Greetings, > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > newbies, what with hand-editing lilo.conf or config files for other > bootloaders, from grub to yaboot/quik, aboot, palo, you name it. Yes, > the kernel-image postinst runs lilo, but lilo.conf is invariably out of > date, so this is relatively useless except for upgrades. Don't know about your system, but /vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old always point to the correct images and lilo.conf is set to use those by default. So, whenever I upgrade the kernel this is all taken care of. -- ---- | Josh Lauricha| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Bioinformatics, UCR | |--| pgp4eCwekoLsj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: vrms and contrib installers (was: Re: "non-free" software included in contrib)
On Tue 16:34, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > Supposedly, it already does: > <http://www.codeweavers.com/products/office/> Actually, my boss just installed that the other day and it apparently does work well. How much of it is just WINE is a pretty wrapper, I'm not to certain. -- ---- | Josh Lauricha| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Bioinformatics, UCR | |--|
Re: faster boot
On Tue 10/21/03 14:44, Christoph Berg wrote:
> I've been thinking for a while to use a Makefile for that, then you get
> parallelizing for free with 'make -j'. It should be easy to set up the
> rules for starting services; stopping might be more complex (how to
> 'reverse' a Makefile?).
You could just use ssh-start and ssh-stop. Maybe something like a
central Makefile rc1.M which includes rc1.d/{ssh,xdm,...}. These then
have targets like {ssh,xdm,..}-{start,stop,restart,reload,...} Along the
lines of:
rc1.M:
start: foo-start bar-start
stop: foo-stop bar-stop
rc1.d/foo:
foo-start: bar-start
...
foo-stop:
...
rc1.d/foo:
bar-start:
...
bar-stop: foo-stop
For two daemons foo and bar which bar provides a service to foo.
Although, since it will be multiple makefiles, will make be able to
parallelize it? Although, you could just have a script, either at boot
or install pregenerate the rc1.M file. Since these would only change
when the sysadmin does it or a new package is installed/updated then an
update-makeboot would work.
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Re: [OT] Re: Changes in formal naming for NetBSD porting effort(s)
On Thu 12/18/03 08:43, Chad Walstrom wrote: > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:43:27PM -0800, Nunya wrote: > > The US is pretty adamant about separation of church and state. > > Which is why the phrase "In God We Trust" is engraved or printed on all > the US currency. That's why the Pledge of Allegiance has the phrase, > "Under God.." Yeah, adamant. Adamant about the seperation of state and non-christian churches[0]. But, of course us weirdos[1] in california decided the pledge was unconstitutional... of course I'm sure that was overturned[2]. And there is no _seperation_ of church and state. There is simply the freedom to choose your own religion, and the federal congress has no authority to make laws regaurding religion. However, this is the federal government, states (depending on their constitutions) can make laws as they see fit [3]. [0] Due to the definition of a religion. Satanism is generally described by the masses as a cult, rather than a religion. [1] Ok, it was really the 9th circuit of the US superior court (me thinks, but close enough. [2] I'm too lazy to check. [3] Well, almost, we did have a civil war over this. -- | Josh Lauricha| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Bioinformatics, UCR | |--|
Re: [OT:HUMOR] Re: software
On Mon 10/11/04 14:37, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 11:37:06PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > Price for Commercial Software: > >> > Adobe Illustrator CS - 90.00 > >> > Adobe Acrobat 6.0 Professional - 100.00 > >> > McAfee Personal Firewall Plus 2004 v. 5.0 - 20.00 > >> > Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0 - 40.00 > >> > Macromedia Studio MX 2004 - 180.00 > >> > Abode InDesign CS - 100.00 > >> > Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition - 200.00 > >> > Adobe Photoshop 7.0 - 60.00 > >> > Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 - 100.00 > >> > QuickBooks Premier Edition 2004 - 80.00 > >> > Microsoft Office XP Pro - 100.00 > >> > Symantec pcANYWHERE 11.0 - 80.00 > >> > Macromedia Studio MX 2004 - 180.00 > >> > 3D Home Architect Landscape Design Deluxe 6.0 - 29.99 > > Debian 3.0r2 8 CD set - 17.99 [1] > > The reassurance of knowing your operating system is carefully > maintained by over 800 developers with the strictest requirements on > freedom - Priceless Careful, mastercard might sue you [1]. > The GPL. It's everywhere you want to be. Since that's visa, I guess it'd have to be a different commercial. So, with the 800 developers surely some can act and direct, maybe one or two know someone in the media... an open source Debian commercial! http://www.attrition.org/news/mc/ -- -- | Josh Lauricha| Ford, you're turning| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | into a penguin. Stop| | Bioinformatics, UCR | it | || | OpenPG:| | 4E7D 0FC0 DB6C E91D 4D7B C7F3 9BE9 8740 E4DC 6184 | ||
