Re: moving (old-)master.debian.org to a (new-)master.debian.org 

2013-02-17 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, 

On Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 19:40:37 +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Before we start losing data (we already lost one disk), DSA is moving 
> master's services to a new machine. The new machine is already setup, 
> but not all the data has been moved. DSA will do a final copy of the
> data (YES, we do copy your $HOME) on the 2013-FEB-17 starting at 10:00Z
> (UTC).

The move of master.debian.org is finished now. 

If you experience any problems with the new master.debian.org, please
contact debian-ad...@lists.debian.org.

Best Regards,

Martin
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Re: REJECTed B-U packages (was Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation)

2013-02-17 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Thorsten Glaser  (17/02/2013):
> So please brainstorm on a fix. In the meantime, dear fellow
> buildd admins, please do run apt-get dist-upgrade (following
> an apt-get update if you don’t persist those) in *all* of your
> buildd chroots frequently and handle those REJECTs caused by
> Built-Using by give-back on the package in question (after
> upgrading the chroot).

In the meantime, dear Thorsten Glaser, please do figure out that
mailing debian-devel@ is *not* the way to reach buildd admins.

KiBi.


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Re: REJECTed B-U packages (was Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation)

2013-02-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Cyril Brulebois dixit:

>In the meantime, dear Thorsten Glaser, please do figure out that
>mailing debian-devel@ is *not* the way to reach buildd admins.

I know, and it wasn’t the goal of that mail. I already contacted
those in question once.

bye,
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Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation

2013-02-17 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:41:26AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Am 10.02.2013 23:31, schrieb Philipp Kern:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:01:21PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> >> But it is ok to insist on using the exact binary version for
> >> build-depending on source packages when it's not needed? This only seems
> >> to be driven by the current dak implementation.
> > That doesn't make sense to me. Where did somebody require this?
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2013/01/msg00012.html
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/01/msg00711.html
> maybe it's a coincidence, however creduce was formerly rejected for not having
> a Built-Using attribute, and gcj-4.8, gnat-4.7 and gnat-4.8 are still in NEW.

Both links talk of Built-Using not Build-Depends. See above for what you wrote.
;-)

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Q: license change for code component in RFCs

2013-02-17 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi,

 I've found the document that RFC copyright policy was changed in 2008,
 so I want to share a bit about it.

 RFC document itself is still non-DFSG-free one, but the **code** in RFC
 after 2008-11-10 can be used under BSD-3-clause license as RFC 5378. 
 So, we can include _some code_ that was removed to make package
 suitable to main. see http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/

 Maybe http://wiki.debian.org/NonFreeIETFDocuments should be updated, too.


 And I wonder is there someone who have already asked them to release code
 component in RFCs before RFC5378 under permissive license ago? I want
 to include more MIBs to net-snmp.


 # code = "code components" in RFC, not document itself
   see http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/Code-Components-List-4-23-09.txt
   and http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/copyright.html
 
  "ABNF definitions, XML Schemas, XML DTDs, XML RelaxNG definitions,
   tables of values, MIBs, PIBs, ASN.1, and classical programming source code"

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Re: RFC declarative built-using field generation

2013-02-17 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 17.02.2013 20:41, schrieb Philipp Kern:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:41:26AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>> Am 10.02.2013 23:31, schrieb Philipp Kern:
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 03:01:21PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
 But it is ok to insist on using the exact binary version for 
 build-depending on source packages when it's not needed? This only
 seems to be driven by the current dak implementation.
>>> That doesn't make sense to me. Where did somebody require this?
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2013/01/msg00012.html 
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2013/01/msg00711.html maybe it's a
>> coincidence, however creduce was formerly rejected for not having a
>> Built-Using attribute, and gcj-4.8, gnat-4.7 and gnat-4.8 are still in
>> NEW.
> 
> Both links talk of Built-Using not Build-Depends. See above for what you
> wrote. ;-)

Sorry, I would like to share your amusement. So please explain.


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Re: openjdk maintenance for wheezy and squeeze

2013-02-17 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi!

Matthias Klose  writes:
>  - Afaik openjdk-7 for kfreebsd does build on kfreebsd (according to Damien)
>with the kfreebsd kernel from wheezy. So maybe some commitment could be
>found to upgrade and maintain the kernels before wheezy is released?

  Actually as far as I could narrow it down it was the squeeze/buildd
schroot/sbuild combination that is not able to build openjdk-7 on
kfreebsd while it worked fine for me using only schroot/sbuild from
wheezy. I tried narrowing down further but went out of ideas and
round-trip-time for trying things out was somewhat a show-stopper. If
Damien has different/additional results I'm happy to try on that again
but I guess it would be somewhat hard to get a change in for wheezy and
it *should* work once wheezy is released (I'll try that again as soon as
I can -- but then I'm somewhat bussy right now and wheezy RC bugs have
priority).

Regards

Christoph


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