Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] maximilian attems 

| On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 12:45:21AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
| > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 05:34:28PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
| > > That SLES forward-port for 2.6.26 is not acceptable based on Debian kernel
| > > patch policy: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelPatchAcceptanceGuidelines
| > 
| > Which is only the case for the main images. We have support for
| > additional feature sets, which have less strict rules.
| 
| right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
| to not be merged upstream.

Of course it is when it is to prevent a fairly substantial regression
from etch.  Whether etch should have shipped a dom0 or not is a
different question and a little late to complain about now; we just have
to do the best we can with what we have.

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Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 09:57:29AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> 
> Of course it is when it is to prevent a fairly substantial regression
> from etch.  Whether etch should have shipped a dom0 or not is a
> different question and a little late to complain about now; we just have
> to do the best we can with what we have.

an lenny+half with upstream merged version makes sense indeed.
until then people can rely on etch + etch unofficial images.

the regression would have been *huge* if we had no guest image support
at all, but that got fixed and is tested.

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Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
> to not be merged upstream.

So OpenVZ is also out of reach.

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Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:08:43AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
> > to not be merged upstream.
> 
> So OpenVZ is also out of reach.

openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
bits. their patchsize is decreasing.

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Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:23:19AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:08:43AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
> > > to not be merged upstream.
> > So OpenVZ is also out of reach.
> openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
> bits. their patchsize is decreasing.

Which does not change the fact that the patch in this form will never be
accepted.

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Re: Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread maximilian attems
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:44:53AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:23:19AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:08:43AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > > right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
> > > > to not be merged upstream.
> > > So OpenVZ is also out of reach.
> > openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
> > bits. their patchsize is decreasing.
> 
> Which does not change the fact that the patch in this form will never be
> accepted.

sure patchsets of such size are never gobed in *one* step.

here you'll find a nice metric on their merge success:
http://community.livejournal.com/openvz/22369.html


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Re: Xen status in lenny? and vserver?

2008-07-18 Thread Florian Reitmeir

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, maximilian attems wrote:


On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:08:43AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:

On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 01:04:45AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> right but still no excuse to bring in a patch set that is *known*
> to not be merged upstream.

So OpenVZ is also out of reach.


openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
bits. their patchsize is decreasing.


and whats about vserver?

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Re: Bug#490805: ITP: txtreader -- text reader, mainly used for reading text originally novels

2008-07-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:23:27PM +0800, LI Daobing wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: LI Daobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> * Package name: txtreader
>   Version : 0.4.4
>   Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * URL : http://www.minisrc.com/?q=taxonomy/term/2
> * License : GPL
>   Programming Lang: C++
>   Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text originally 
> novels

Ummm,
Do you mean:

Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text of original novels

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Re: Xen status in lenny? and vserver?

2008-07-18 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Florian Reitmeir dijo [Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:39:22AM +0200]:
> >openvz is actively working on namespace merge and using the emerging
> >bits. their patchsize is decreasing.
> 
> and whats about vserver?

vserver support is just fine.

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Re: RFC: libprojectM, new upstream version.

2008-07-18 Thread Francesco Namuri
Il giorno gio, 17/07/2008 alle 17.30 -0500, William Pitcock ha scritto:
> > audacious-plugins is already compatible with the new version of
> > libprojectM... I've looked at the logs of buildd of
> audacious-plugins
> > and the projectM plugin isn't build from version 1.4.5-1, so the
> update
> > of libprojectM don't break anything, indeed I tried to compile with
> > libprojectM 1.2 and it builds also the projectM plugin... So I'm
> going
> > to package the new library version...
> 
> Then you cause a feature regression. *great*.

no I don't cause any feature regression, because audacious-plugins
doesn't build any projectM plugin. please check your buildd logs.

contrary with the version 1.2.0 the plugin builds, so it's a feature
enhancement, not a regression...


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Re: Bug#480563: Doesn't strip binary NMU version (+b1, +bN etc.) when reporting bugs

2008-07-18 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hello Developers!

I would like to hear some suggestions about this (#480563) bug
(trascript below):

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 01:44, Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>  reportbug uses the package version when reporting bugs, but this might
>>>  include a bin NMU extension, e.g. +b1.  As debbugs/our BTS tracks bugs
>>>  at the source level, the bin NMU part should probably be stripped when
>>>  reporting bugs against Debian.
>>
>> I'm not sure this would be correct behavior, since a binNMU could
>> quite plausibly introduce bugs that wouldn't be present before the
>> binNMU.  Perhaps debbugs should be smarter about binNMUs though.
>
>  I wondered about this as well before filing the bug; on IRC
>  (#debian-devel-fr), the consensus was slightly in favor of reporting it
>  against reportbug, but I know it probably affects other bug reporting
>  tools.
>
>  Changing debbugs to track binary version is really hard, I think we
>  shouldn't intermix this feature with the rewrite, however it might be
>  as simple to rewrite versions on the debbugs side of things rather than
>  coding it in all bug reporting clients.

should we strip-off the binNMU extension from the package version in reportbug?

I'm more inclined to Chris' position (not strip because binNMU can
introduce bugs not present in previous version) but DDs more
experienced than me can have a wider view and a different opinion.

Thanks in advance,
Sandro

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Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] Xen status in lenny?

2008-07-18 Thread Guido Günther
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 08:37:01AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
[..snip..] 
> dom0 support is being worked on by Fedora people (I think) but there are
> no patches upstream yet.
We could recommend kvm+xenner+libvirt as "dom0" for people with
hardware virtualization support:
 http://kraxel.fedorapeople.org/xenner/
I don't think we have this packaged yet though. If anybody wants to work
on this I'd be happy to help.
Cheers,
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Re: Bug#480563: Doesn't strip binary NMU version (+b1, +bN etc.) when reporting bugs

2008-07-18 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
"Sandro Tosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm more inclined to Chris' position (not strip because binNMU can
> introduce bugs not present in previous version) but DDs more
> experienced than me can have a wider view and a different opinion.

I'd tend to agree -- better to err on the side of sending extra
information, which the BTS can presumably at least arrange to ignore
for the time being if fully handling it is too involved.

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Re: Bug#490805: ITP: txtreader -- text reader, mainly used for reading text originally novels

2008-07-18 Thread Drake Wilson
Quoth Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-07-19 00:44:04 +1200:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:23:27PM +0800, LI Daobing wrote:
> >   Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text originally 
> > novels
>
> Do you mean:
> 
> Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text of original novels

I would more expect "text viewer, originally used for reading novels".

"text viewer, mainly used for reading text" seems fairly redundant to me.

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Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:29 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:

> I'm wondering... do we have binary packages for all kernel modules we have
> (free) -source packages for so that such kernel modules don't need to be
> built by users ?


No, but *most* of them are built by linux-modules-extra-2.6 or
linux-modules-contrib-2.6.

(Even non-free modules be auto-built by linux-modules-nonfree-2.6, and
some firmware is packaged in firmware-nonfree.  But those obviously must
not be included on official CDs.)

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Re: Bug#480563: Doesn't strip binary NMU version (+b1, +bN etc.) when reporting bugs

2008-07-18 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:48, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 01:44, Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 4:48 PM, Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  reportbug uses the package version when reporting bugs, but this might
> >>>  include a bin NMU extension, e.g. +b1.  As debbugs/our BTS tracks bugs
> >>>  at the source level, the bin NMU part should probably be stripped when
> >>>  reporting bugs against Debian.

No, it should not. The BTS knows how to resolve binary versions to
source versions, and does all of this automatically.

> >  I wondered about this as well before filing the bug; on IRC
> >  (#debian-devel-fr), the consensus was slightly in favor of
> >  reporting it against reportbug, but I know it probably affects
> >  other bug reporting tools.
> >
> >  Changing debbugs to track binary version is really hard,

We don't currently; there was some discussion of allowing a bug to be
associated with a particular set of binary versions, but that is a
feature with relatively limited utility. [Such bugs would be fixed by
any upload, and would have no automatic propogation.]

Furthermore, the cases where a bug is associated with a particular
binary, and not the source package as well is a fairly small minority
of the bugs that are reported; only expert users and/or package
maintainer would be making use of this feature anyway.

> should we strip-off the binNMU extension from the package version in
> reportbug?

No. The BTS is more than capable of resolving binary versions to
source versions, and knows far better what the source version of a
particular binary version than an arbitrary regex in reportbug.


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Re: Bug#490805: ITP: txtreader -- text reader, mainly used for reading text originally novels

2008-07-18 Thread Ben Finney
Drake Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Quoth Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-07-19 00:44:04 +1200:
> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 08:23:27PM +0800, LI Daobing wrote:
> > >   Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text originally 
> > > novels
> >
> > Do you mean:
> > 
> > Description : text viewer, mainly used for reading text of original 
> > novels
> 
> I would more expect "text viewer, originally used for reading novels".

I would parse the text from LI Daobing as:

Description: text viewer, mainly used for reading text that was originally 
the text of novels

and would refine it as:

Description: text viewer for reading novels

> "text viewer, mainly used for reading text" seems fairly redundant to me.

Agreed.

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Re: ffmpeg2theora

2008-07-18 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello,

I didn't get a response to the enclosed mail which was sent to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there some reason why a package
will not be Installed even after a build succeeds?

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote:
> I uploaded ffmpeg2theora 0.21-0.1 to the archive on Jun 28th.
> It was built the same day on the mipsel architecture.
> 
> http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=ffmpeg2theora;ver=0.21-0.1;arch=mipsel;stamp=1214686479
> 
> The build appears to have been successful.
> 
> For some reason it does not seem to have made it to the
> Upload/Install stage ater that.
> 
> Could you please check and let me know?

Regards,

Kapil.
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