Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread elis aeris
please think about your first programming class, and then think about how long it took the prof to teach the concept of array. yes, it's about a week, if he is really good. python is a very young language, prefered by professionals of its simplicity, as such, the number of character of the doc

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Gauld
"elis aeris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > because its well written document of people who know multiple > languages, I > have to as what appears to be the same question over and over > because > Ican't read the documents. The official tutor is designed for experienced programmers. There are ma

Re: [Tutor] Importing question

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Gauld
"Kent Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > You can find out where any module is located using its __file__ > attribute. This works for modules written in C, too. But not on Windoze. If it's built-in there is no __file__ attribute. But the print trick tells you if it's builtin and if it's not __f

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, I have found that this Python Book has been helpful: http://ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS/python/english2e.tgz How to Think Like a Computer Scientist Learning with Python by Allen B. Downey, Jeffrey Elkner and Chris Meyers Printed copies now available from Green Tea Press. One of the most

[Tutor] Newbie Project part 2...

2007-07-14 Thread Tony Noyeaux
Thanks to all the tutors,... your advice has been invaluable todate,.. the learning continues. The code below..asks the user to pick one of 3 options,.. once they choose,... a random result happens based on their choice. - import random

[Tutor] curses

2007-07-14 Thread max baseman
hello all sorry to bother I'm working on my first curses program ive been wanting to learn curses for a while now and now that a have a lop top with fedora core running in run level 3 ware im trying to program all the tools i'll use but curses will be my only gui ALAN has been helping me wi

Re: [Tutor] CGI error

2007-07-14 Thread Martin Walsh
Hi Darren, Darren Williams wrote: > Hi all Smile > > I have a Windows hosting account with lunarpages.com and am having a bit > of trouble with CGI. I have enabled both CGI and Python in the control > panel and made sure the permissions for all my CGI scripts are set to > both readable and execu

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, 2007-07-14 at 08:54 -0400, bhaaluu wrote: > Greetings, > > I have found that this Python Book has been helpful: > > http://ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCS/python/english2e.tgz > > How to Think Like a Computer Scientist > Learning with Python > > by Allen B. Downey, Jeffrey Elkner and Chris Meye

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Gauld
Hi, > books with maximum outside help, and others can't learn from books > at all, they need to have their hands held from the first step to > the > final destination. IMO Anyone in that position is never going to be able to program at any level of competency. Its a simple fact that to program a

Re: [Tutor] Newbie Project part 2...

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Gauld
"Tony Noyeaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in - import random print "\t\t\t\tLife Simulator" print "You have just turned 18 years old. Your life awaits,... choices to be made.." print "\na)Army,\nb)Navy,\nc)Airforce" job=raw_input("What will u

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, I'm enjoying this discussion. On 7/14/07, Alan Gauld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > books with maximum outside help, and others can't learn from books > > at all, they need to have their hands held from the first step to > > the > > final destination. > > IMO Anyone in that pos

Re: [Tutor] tutor

2007-07-14 Thread ALAN GAULD
> > I'm intrigued by that statement. What do you find challenging? > > All of it seems complicated at first because I'm not familiar with the > nuances of the new language. I do not have a CS background. That's one of the reasons I wrote my tutor. It became obvious to me that most web tutors

Re: [Tutor] Platform-independent Excel reader

2007-07-14 Thread John Fouhy
On 13/07/07, encore jane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know about a good native Excel file reader that is platform > independent? I have had success with pyExcelerator: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyexcelerator -- John. ___ Tutor maillis

[Tutor] reading random line from a file

2007-07-14 Thread max baseman
im writing a quick quote reader that spits out a random quote from a show but cant get it to pick randomly i tried a=randrange(820)+1 text.readline(a) and i would prefer not having to bring evryline into the program then picking like for line in text.readlines(): lines.append(text) .

Re: [Tutor] reading random line from a file

2007-07-14 Thread Luke Paireepinart
max baseman wrote: > im writing a quick quote reader that spits out a random quote from a > show but cant get it to pick randomly > i tried > a=randrange(820)+1 > text.readline(a) > > and i would prefer not having to bring evryline into the program then > picking like > > for line in text.readl

Re: [Tutor] reading random line from a file

2007-07-14 Thread John Fouhy
On 15/07/07, max baseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > im writing a quick quote reader that spits out a random quote from a > show but cant get it to pick randomly > i tried > a=randrange(820)+1 > text.readline(a) > > and i would prefer not having to bring evryline into the program then > picking li

Re: [Tutor] reading random line from a file

2007-07-14 Thread Alan Gauld
"max baseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > im writing a quick quote reader that spits out a random quote from a > show but cant get it to pick randomly You can either get theclines to be the same length and use a random index to seek() to the start of the line you want. Or you can build a separa

Re: [Tutor] reading random line from a file

2007-07-14 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
Well he could implement the indexing into his program and check mtimes to decide if he needs to reindex. But yes, as long the file fits into memory, readlines (or list(file("quotes,txt")) makes more sense. Andreas -- Ursprüngl. Mitteil. -- Betreff:Re: [Tutor] reading random line from a