> On Mar 9, 2021, at 4:27 PM, Terry Reedy wrote:
>
> On 3/9/2021 3:27 PM, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote:
>
>> The Steering Council just published the community update for February:
>
> Thank you for posting this.
>
>>The Steering Council discussed renaming the master branch to main
>>a
Thanks, Carol (and Olga)! This sounds great!
I’m sure you can all google :), but here’s the link:
https://github.com/python/python-docs-theme
I wasn’t able to find examples - is this what is up and running on
docs.python.org, or is that a future plan?
thanks much,
—titus
p.s. Not sure what ad
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 11:10:22AM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
-> Giovanni Bajo schrieb:
-> > On 06/03/2007 10.52, Martin v. L?wis wrote:
-> >
-> >> I can't see that the barrier at contributing is high.
-> >
-> > I think this says it all. It now appears obvious to me that people
-> > inside
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:16:21PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> On 3/13/07, Georg Brandl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > I'd like to deprecate commands.getstatus() in 2.6.
-> >
-> > Reason: there is getoutput() and getstatusoutput(). In the latter, "status"
-> > means the exit code. getstatus(
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 04:55:07PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> On 3/13/07, Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > What about reimplementing commands.* using subprocess? Or providing a
-> > commands.*-compatible interface in the subprocess module?
->
->
-> > >> What about reimplementing commands.* using subprocess? Or providing a
-> > >> commands.*-compatible interface in the subprocess module?
OK, so as I understand it, the next step would be for me to provide a
patch implementing this, right? Or is this PEP-required (please no...)?
What do pe
On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:50:29AM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > What do people think of this basic interface?
-> >
-> > (status, output) = subprocess.get_status_output(cmd)
-> >
-> > output = subprocess.get_output(cmd)
-> >
-> > Here 'status' is the 'returncode' from subprocess.Popen
Hi all,
I posted about adding 'get_output', 'get_status_output', and
'get_status_output_errors' to subprocess here,
http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/mar-07/replacing-commands-with-subprocess
and got some interesting responses.
Briefly, my original proposal was to add these three functions:
ou
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 09:34:46PM +, Michael Foord wrote:
-> Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > Sure. os.fork() and the os.exec*() family can stay. But os.spawn*(),
-> > that abomination invented by Microsoft? I also hear no opposition
-> > against killign os.system() and os.popen()
->
-> Except th
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:47:58PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> On 3/22/07, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > > Sure. os.fork() and the os.exec*() family can stay. But os.spawn*(),
-> > > that abomination invented by Microsoft? I also hear no opposition
On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 11:12:26PM +0100, Andr? Malo wrote:
-> * Titus Brown wrote:
->
-> > On Thu, Mar 22, 2007 at 02:47:58PM -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > -> On 3/22/07, Michael Foord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > -> > Guido van Rossum wrote:
->
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 10:30:37AM -0600, Steven Bethard wrote:
-> On 3/23/07, Hrvoje Nik??i?? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 13:38 -0700, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > > Sounds good to me. In 3.0 we should probably not have os.popen*(), nor
-> > > the popen2 module at all, an
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 07:32:42AM +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
-> > Addressing only the issues of PCBuild8 and 64-bit architectures, I
-> > have tried to establish "free" buildbot support for the 64-bit
-> > architectures without any real success.
-> >
-> > Should the PSF be considering paying
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:45:04AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
->
-> >> You at least take away a common excuse for lack of contributions.
-> >> True whiners will just come up with new ones (e.g., "the
-> >> documentation isn't available in Sanskrit yet" or "the dog ate my
-> >>
On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 12:08:52PM -0700, Trent Mick wrote:
-> Thomas Heller wrote:
-> >> Are there others that can provide a Windows buildbot? It would probably
-> >> be good to have two -- and a WinXP one would be good.
-> >
-> > How much work is it to set one up, and to maintain it? Maybe I c
On Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 07:59:58AM -0700, Anna Ravenscroft wrote:
-> I noticed at the Grace Hopper Celebration of Women in Computing that
-> several major universities in the US are starting to offer intro (CS1)
-> courses based on Python, among them:
-> Georgia Tech
-> CMU
-> Bryn Mawr
It's been
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:32:25PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
->
-> Brett> Looks like Skip's r59137 fix for working with tracing has led to
-> Brett> test_doctest to be broken on 2.5 and the trunk (at least
-> Brett> according to the buildbots). Can someone either revert the
->
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 10:23:06AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> On Nov 24, 2007 6:35 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > Thanks, Titus. Both the doctest and trace tests pass with your change.
-> > Checked back in. I didn't run the full test suite, as test_sqlite causes a
-> > bus error on m
detailed and specific way, we'd love to have
them.
Here are the new task guidelines:
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-psf/wiki/NewTaskGuidelines
and I'm happy to write up the tasks if people send me good ideas.
cheers,
--titus
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Hi all,
is there a good, or standard memory benchmarking system for Python?
pybench doesn't return significantly different results when Python 2.6
is compiled with pymalloc and without pymalloc. Thinking on it, I'm not
too surprised -- pybench probably benchmarks a lot of stuff -- but some
guidan
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 07:24:04AM -0500, Steve Holden wrote:
-> Christian Heimes wrote:
-> > Good afternoon everybody!
-> >
-> > The new C API documentation contains some large files:
-> >
-> > 105K abstract.html
-> > 300K concrete.html
-> > 183K newtypes.html
-> >
-> > The concrete.html takes
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:58:35PM -0800, Brett Cannon wrote:
-> On Dec 19, 2007 4:33 PM, Raymond Hettinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> > The bots are kicking-off so many false alarms that it is becoming
difficult to tell whether a check-in genuinely broke a build.
-> >
-> > At the root of the p
Hi all,
a bit of grep'ping and personal examination discovered the following
tests in trunk/ that could be converted to unittest or doctests. Any
thoughts, pro or con?
(I understand from Brett that the goal is to eradicate "old-style"
tests, by which I think he means tests that do not use unitte
On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 04:02:21PM +0100, Quentin Gallet-Gilles wrote:
-> (oops, realized I didn't send it to the list, just to Titus)
->
-> I remember that it was one of the tasks at the Python Sprint at Google last
-> summer, so I guess this is a good idea (for GHOP, right ?)
Yep!
-> >From wha
Hi all,
re
http://www.python.org/download/releases/2.2.3/descrintro/
on "Unifying types and classes in Python 2.2",
we have a GHOP task to "fill in" the Additional Topics section of this
document. 'novanasa', the student who took this task, has written up a
nice set of doctest
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 11:15:04AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> We're getting a fair number of doc contributions, especially since the
-> docs were converted from Latex to ReST, and especially since the start
-> of the GHOP project.
->
-> My main gripe is with code contributions to Py3k and 2
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 05:48:25PM -0200, Facundo Batista wrote:
-> 2008/1/3, Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
->
-> > What needs to be done with 2.6? I'm happy to review patches, although
-> > even were commit access on offer I'm too scatterbrained to do a g
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 02:49:27PM -0500, Fred Drake wrote:
-> On Jan 3, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
-> > My main gripe is with code contributions to Py3k and 2.6; Py3k is
-> > mostly done by a handful of people, and almost nobody is working much
-> > on 2.6.
->
-> For those of us st
-> > Incidentally, I'm planning to set up an SVK repos containing the GHOP
-> > doc patches; that way they can stay sync'ed with 2.6 work. I'd be happy
-> > to do the same thing with reviewed-and-probably-OK patches, although I
-> > don't know if repository proliferation is a generally good idea ;
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 09:55:44PM +0100, Christian Heimes wrote:
-> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
-> > You don't put the bar high for newbies on the Python project eh? :)
-> >
-> > I am assumign that most of those contributions code-wise need a fair
amount of
-> > knowledge of Python's in
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 03:24:16PM -0500, Joseph Armbruster wrote:
-> Having a "core mentor" would be great but do they really have time for
-> that? I've been lucky at finding people in #python / #python-dev) that can
-> answer development inquiries (or at least verify something is or is not a
->
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 06:12:52AM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
-> Bill Janssen writes:
-> > > >> ~/Library/ is a Mac OS X thing.
-> > >
-> > > Bill> Sure, but it's clearly where this should be on an OS X
system, by
-> > > Bill> default.
->
-> > > [etc.]
->
-> > [tocatta
Hello all,
per previous discussion,
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2004-October/049495.html
I'd like to push a trivial little patch to sgmllib (#1087808) on you
gents, in exchange for my reviews & effort etc. on 10 other patches.
Without further ado:
No-brainers:
1055159
-> Jeremy Hylton wrote:
-> >I got started on these this morning, will likely finish them tomorrow.
-> > It would be perverse to apply your patch last, wouldn't it?
->
-> It turns out that Titus' patch might be more involved than he thought
-> it would be.
*shrug* that's life ;). I stole my patch
-> > 1067760 -- float-->long conversion on fileobj.seek calls, rather than
-> >float-->int. Permits larger floats (2.0**62) to match large
-> >int (2**62) arguments. rhettinger marked as "won't fix" in
-> >the original bug report; this seems like a clean solution,
-> >
-> > Apparently file.seek doesn't have this DeprecationWarning though..
-> > Strange, that.
-> > >>> f.seek(3.6)
-> > >>> f.tell()
-> > 3L
->
-> That's a bug. Who'll fix it?
Added:
+ if (PyFloat_Check(offobj))
+ PyErr_Warn(PyExc_DeprecationWarning,
+
Folks,
I've just run a code coverage report for the python2.4 branch:
http://vallista.idyll.org/~t/temp/python2.4-svn/
This report uses my figleaf code,
http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/figleaf-latest.tar.gz
I'm interested in feedback on a few things --
* what more would yo
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 02:21:04PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
-> Brett Cannon wrote:
-> >But it does seem accurate; random checking of some modules that got high
-> >but not perfect covereage all seem to be instances where dependency
-> >injection would be required to get the tests to work since
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 08:37:30AM -0400, Benji York wrote:
-> Brett Cannon wrote:
-> >But it does seem accurate; random checking of some modules that got high
-> >but not perfect covereage all seem to be instances where dependency
-> >injection would be required to get the tests to work since th
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 08:12:39PM -0700, Brett Cannon wrote:
-> On 6/15/06, Titus Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-> >
-> >Folks,
-> >
-> >I've just run a code coverage report for the python2.4 branch:
-> >
-> >http://vallista.idyll.org/~
> On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Steve Dower wrote:
>
> On 02Jul2019 0840, Mariatta wrote:
>> I've used the "Report abuse" feature on GitHub for such situations. Most of
>> the time I see the user suspended, and the associated comments deleted.
>> Our GitHub admins can delete comments too.
>> On
e delivery timestamps) to
> something that can be done on a coffee break.
I already help moderate python-ideas and would be happy to help moderate
announce.
best,
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dy student is building something, but he
can't work on it over the summer, so continuing it in various ways could
be a GSoC project.
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u and the students are prepared to
adapt to what people on python-dev think. Mind you, ultimately the
people doing the work should make the decisions, but input from
python-dev is usually pretty useful even when it's contradictory!
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done some good doctest stuff,
for example; the 'testing-in-python' list would be a good place to go
for finding out more.
Note, you don't have to offer to be the mentor to post it, but it would
help ;)
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On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:26:54PM +1000, Nick Coghlan wrote:
-> C. Titus Brown wrote:
-> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 07:30:01PM -0300, Daniel (ajax) Diniz wrote:
-> > I do think you should be prepared for pushback from python-dev on any
-> > such ideas ;). Don't get too
many applicants we have
and how many applications are good.
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ngs at python.org but if you want me to host it, I can.
N.B. There are a bunch of GSoC projects to work on or with the CPython
test framework (increase test coverage, write plugins to make it
runnable in nose or py.test, etc.). I don't know that the students
should be active participants in su
work?
Alas, it's too late to submit new proposals; the deadline was
yesterday.
The next "Google gives us money to wrangle students into doing
development" project will probably be GHOP for highschool students, in
the winter, although it has not been announce
pythons development cycle. Whereas a small set of
-> types can be implemented and stabalised for python more easily.
->
-> Also, it's not image, or 3d format types -- since those are also a way
-> larger project.
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pport. See http://slexy.org/view/s2pFgWxufI for details.
sphinx framework improvement -- support for per-paragraph comments and
user/developer interface for submitting/committing fixes
2x "keyring package" -- see
http://tarekziade.wordpress.com/2009/03/
also involves
-> testing this area (idle and tkinter), Titus ? I'm considering this
-> more important than "just" dealing with the tracker issues.
What, I tell you that your app is going to be accepted and we shouldn't
argue about it, and you want to
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 06:05:02PM -0500, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
-> 2009/4/10 C. Titus Brown :
-> > 2x "improve testing tools for py3k" -- variously focus on improving test
-> > ?? ?? ?? ??coverage and testing wrappers.
-> >
-> > ?? ?? ?? ??One proposes to pr
e had a GSoC student two years back who worked on something like this;
his name is Michal Kwiatkowski. He probably has the code working
somewhere.
It's a nontrivial problem if you want to do it properly with VMs etc.
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-> (whose acceptance then might not happen within a summer).
Well, that's a more unassailable argument and one I agree with ;).
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reliably & specifically over time, which is what we would want -- "fire
and forget".
Is there a good python-dev archive search mechanism (other than to
google "python-dev " ;) out there? Wouldn't that help?
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mmense help for understanding the discussion.
Something like MarkMail (as Dirkjan mentioned) may have a better
interface. I'll give it a try.
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k ;-) (what's up with it,
anyway?).
We're still getting the machines set up. It turns out delivering power
and A/C to a wide variety of architectures is more complicated than it
may sound ;)
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compiling either trunk or py3k on Win 7? Would this be useful?
My recently acquired* MSDN account has led me to getting XP up and
running in a VM, and I would be happy to try other Windows OSes of
interest.
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> >
> > That's absurd. ?There's a certain area where Guido can make pronouncements,
> > but third-party packages is not it. ?Even if they're hosted on python.org
> > infrastructure.
>
> Right.
Is that a pronouncement?
:)
&qu
r the pony-build main screen should be, contact me off-list; I'm
reluctant to spam up python-dev or testing-in-python.
That having been said, the results of taking it and trying it out -- you can
post results to my own recording server at
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb
e together a build script that spins up a
buildslave on EC2 and runs the tests there; I wrote something similar a
few years ago for an infrequently connected home machine.
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of paying a dedicated developer to make the CPython+buildbot
tests reliable is better, although I would still be -0 on it (I don't think
the PSF should be paying for this kind of thing at all).
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> Le vendredi 30 octobre 2009 ?? 09:31 -0700, C. Titus Brown a ??crit :
> > [ ... ]
> >
> > I'm happy to provide VMs or shell access for Windows (XP, Vista, 7); Linux
> > ia64; Linux x86; and Mac
ace. ?So Brett can probably do what he wants
> > with BuildBot right now.
>
> ... but pony-build follows a different model
I'd rather not get into discussions of why my vaporware is going to be
way, way better than anything anyone else could possibly do -- that's
flamebait
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:49:51PM +, Paul Moore wrote:
> 2009/10/30 C. Titus Brown :
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:21:06PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Sorry for the little redundancy, I would like to underline Jean-Paul
ize the level of work and attention involved (<- he says cynically) in
exploiting the offer of resources; I hope that anyone interested in
offering resources will pop their head up again to look around.
> I hope everyone is on board with the idea of fixing bugs in CPython,
> either in
#x27;buildmsi.bat' file has 'build' misspelled as 'buold' ;)
I'd love to get this build process working completely automatically and
100% correctly, too.
Hat tip to Trent Nelson, who helped me figure out where the scripts are
and what other things I needed...
cheers,
ripts can be used from
within buildbot, if people are interested.
> Another consequence is that different committers actually use different
> procedures. Trent created much of the Tools/buildbot setup, so he is
> obviously in favor of that strategy. Christian Heimes cre
o.
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Ahh! Sorry, was searching for 'mac' somewhere in the string.
Those tests are also broken but in different areas from mine. Again,
if people would like shell access, just ask.
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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 06:43:50PM +, Mark Dickinson wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 6:36 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 07:28:50PM +0100, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote:
> >> That's not true, see
> >>
> >> http://w
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On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 10:13:42PM -0500, Benjamin Peterson wrote:
> 2010/3/18 C. Titus Brown :
> > Hi all,
> >
> > once again, the PSF has been accepted as a mentoring foundation for the
> > Google
> > Summer of Code! ??This year, we're going to emphasize py
SoC project; any non-trivial
> porting will be.
Sounds good to me. Line up a good student and bob's your uncle.
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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:40:06AM +0300, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> I would vote for allowing student work on community infrastructure
> tasks. Tracker, Wiki, Web site management tools are all outdated and
> everybody who cares agrees that they've seen a better tools.
As long as it's programming,
vements, with an
eye to making changes that can then be evaluated in terms of maintainability,
extensibility, etc. Having them actually change the infrastructure itself
seems to me like a bad idea :)
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posted, but that's what you asked about.)
I keep on running into technical barriers in getting cross-platform code
coverage analysis working, which would be quite valuable; it's easy to
get it working once, but to keep it working is a maintenance task
re is just not that
expensive compared to the dedication of the volunteers. If Georg, Benjamin,
Martin, or Ronald are interested, please just tell me (or Steve, or the PSF
board, or ...) what you want and I'll work on getting it funded.
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ion to open
> source projects. You normally contribute to scratch an itch.
> Unfortunately, these binaries don't come out such a motiviation. So the
> release manager roles are either altruistic, or rely on extrinsic
> motivations (money, repu
robustify this process.
OTOH, my Mac automated builds/tests are working just fine. I could produce
nightly binaries from those easily enough:
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/
Just need to figure out the magic doohickey commands... will add to list.
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u get it working... I build python2.7
nightly on Mac OS X, but just at the command line.
see:
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/
http://lyorn.idyll.org/ctb/pb-dev/p/python/show_all
(the Windows build is flaky for me, so the 'show_all&
volunteer.
We have some space in our machine room, and some sysadmins that like open
source. I will ask them if they are willing to do physical maintenance (profs
wisely aren't allowed access to the machine room). That would really be
ideal... I will report back to interested people.
--t
a review process. (Not that I
do any Python reviews, note. But it's a great technique in general.)
It's also fantastically simple and esay to interact with patches that are
branches on someone's bitbucket or github repo; much better than uploading and
downloading patch files whil
talks about data, not code.
Really? It has some guidelines here for object files, etc., at least as
of 2004.
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
A quick scan suggests /usr/lib is the right place to look:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.h
her investigation. Since it's DVCS, it's much easier to change
the "official" repo, but it still incurs costs in terms of documentation,
workflow changes, etc.
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for sphinx-specific markup constructs.
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On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:36:10PM +0530, Shashwat Anand wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, C. Titus Brown wrote:
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > over on the fellowship o' the packaging mailing list, one of our GSoC
> > students
> > (merwok) asked about how m
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 05:09:40PM +0100, Michael Foord wrote:
> On 07/07/2010 17:06, Shashwat Anand wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:24 PM, C. Titus Brown > <mailto:c...@msu.edu>> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> over on the fellowship o'
iscussions on how to clone Martin and
others, though. I just need some epithelial cells, I think. And about $20 bn
dollars, and relocation to Israel (which I think has the best combination of
tech and human use guidelines for cloning). Martin's permission is not
*strictly* necessary but sh
I am surprised by the above claim ;-).
Huh. Count me out. I guess I don't live up to your standards.
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p.s. Seriously? I can accept that there's a rational minimalist argument
for this "feature", but arguing that it's somehow the responsibility of
a programmer t
On Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 05:28:43PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> C. Titus Brown writes:
>
> > p.s. Seriously? I can accept that there's a rational minimalist argument
> > for this "feature",
>
> It is a feature, even if you aren't gonna need i
done so in public fora so I'm sure you can find
the records, if you care to look. But it's not really very relevant to this
conversation, especially since Trent has always been interested in building off
the buildbot setup rather than replacing it.
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0.8.1/Interlocks.html
One the neat things that a master/slave system like buildbot provides...
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plug & play.
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which is DSL-ish enough for me...
More generally, I've never understood why some people insist that
certain features make Ruby better for DSLs -- are code blocks really
that important to DSLs? Or is it just the lack of parens??
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essed in some other way.
Also see:
http://lists.idyll.org/pipermail/testing-in-python/2007-November/000406.html
& associated thread, for those interested in the variety of mock
libraries...
cheers,
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implicity in test suites is at least as important as in
code: if you have to work hard to understand and debug your test suites,
you've done something seriously wrong in building your tests.
Tests should be as simple as possible, and no simpler.
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