I don't need M$ Word, there are
perfectly good word processors, possibly even better ones, available for
other platforms, and yes, of course I can read websites in Linux, the Net was
*built* on Unix machines.
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Remember "Nobody ever got fired for specifying IBM" ?I expect M$ have
adopted that slogan, by implication at least.
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On Monday 17 March 2003 06:23, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 03:05:57AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 10:29:42AM +1200, cr wrote:
> > > Agreed, but unfortunately there&#
I've been using RH for a couple of years (RH5.2, 6.0, 7.2) and I thought I'd
try Debian 3.0. I did a new install but ran into some weird behaviour (or
at least, stuff I don't understand) so I'm back with RH for now.Sorry if
some of my questions are a bit elementary. And any comparisons w
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 00:24, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 08:50:43AM +1200, cr wrote:
> > Well, to take the analogy back to Linux - vs - Windoze - all word
> > processors work pretty much the same. All spreadsheets work pretty
> > much the same. T
On Thursday 20 March 2003 00:55, Joerg Johannes wrote:
(snips)
> You're right. But still it is non-intuitive that a regular user has not
> the rights to "startx" by default. man "XF86Config" and "man startx"
> won't tell you how to allow it to a normal user.
Is this so? If I type 'startx' as m
On Sunday 23 March 2003 17:56, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > Is this so? If I type 'startx' as me (non-root) then X won't start
> > unless I go change some permissions? (presumably, having opened a
> > console window from the X login and gone su root to do so)
>
> If you're saying you can't start
uck it will drop back to the command line, I think.
Knowing what the installation (i.e. Linux) should look like is a huge
advantage when trying a new install. I don't wish to wave the flag for Red
Hat (after all, I'm seriously trying to change to Debian!) but I'm very
relieved tha
when it starts) that
there's > 1MB of mail in the box. But it sure beats the heck out of
webmail!
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:27, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
> On Friday 17 October 2003 11:50, cr wrote:
> > Sounds like you have a POP account? I had to go the webmail
> > route a couple of times when Kmail showed there was >> 2MB of mail
> > in my account. A pox on
&g
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 19:28, Magnus von Koeller wrote:
> On Saturday 18 October 2003 03:53, cr wrote:
> > I'm using Kmail 1.3.2 in KDE 2.2.2. in Woody. I thought that POP
> > filter was a feature that was only in Kmail 2.
>
> True, true - that version doesn't have
back?
Or are there major 'look-and-feel' settings kept elsewhere?
Regards
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On second thoughts, I have a nasty feeling the second of those links might be
only too accurate :(
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:48, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 04:58:05AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > Can anyone confirm this - are *all* the X desktop settings kept in the
> > /home/ directory?
>
> You mean your desktop environment, like Gnome or KDE? Yeah, all your
>
primitive, compared with other Basics of the time. No
graphics functions, no structure beyond IF-THEN-GOTO-GOSUB..
DOS - most of its (very necessary) improvements were written as little apps
by third-party developers (often copied from UNIX) and then copied by M$
I suppose I could go all the way back to Edlin.
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epth 16
# Modes "640x480" "800x600" "1024x768" "1280x1024"
Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480"
Viewport 0 0
EndSubsection
You'l
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:43, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 09:40:01PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > DOS - most of its (very necessary) improvements were written as little
> > apps by third-party developers (often copied from UNIX) and then copied
> > by M$
>
> Ah,
ures - just very slow overall.
However, on my new box (Athlon 2000) Woody floppy-boots in maybe 15
seconds.
I don't really believe the speed of floppy-booting is dependent on the CPU
:) - more likely, it was some sort of incompatible drive setting (though
what, I have no idea
dom. I printed off one page to prove to
myself that it would work, went to the mainframe terminal, logged in, typed
"Change Password", shut my eyes and typed in random letters, locking myself
out of the detested mainframe forever.:)
Does anyone wonder why I hate Thin Clients...
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 01:14, cr wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 23:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 05:13:01PM +, Pigeon wrote:
> > > > Nah, that was EDIT.COM - before that appeared I used to use
#x27;t have
> an internet connection at home, so I especially need them.
>
> Bijan
I'm on dial-up, and I have just the first two (Woody) CD's, and I've only
ever found *one* app I wanted that wasn't on one of those two - Kppp. (I
downloaded that separately).
In ot
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:19, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 00:06, cr wrote:
> > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:15, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 01:14, cr wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 02 Nov 2003 23:37, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > > > > On
locked in a cosy padded cell.
>
> Again, it's MS, not TC.
OK, let's just say that I *hate* Thin Clients when they're loaded with
nothing but Micro$oft software. I have no experience of Thin Clients
running Linux so I'd better reserve judgement on those. :)
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s when I boot w98 again
(Btw, DOS doesn't care if I do that.Nor is DOS nearly so paranoid about
where it boots from.A far superior OS to Windows, is DOS 8)
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yes I do
mean Microsoft).Anybody sends me a Word doc is likely to be asked to send
it again in some open format.I don't care that Open Office can read it
(though I rather welcome the existence of OO - anything that helps to
undermine the Evil Empire can't be bad :)
Unfortunately I can't apply this at work.
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Big will
buy them out, intimidate the lumber merchants not to sell to them, threaten
them with copyright lawsuits, or (if sufficiently pushed) drop the prices on
his barns just until they are forced out of business.
Maybe the only way to break the bastard is for enough prospective barn owners
to get together and start co-operatively building barns.
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> as a disruptive and undesirable element by the established social order,
> and are further relegated to the classification of 'terrorist'.
> Regards,
>
> David.
Yeah. I'm waiting for Micro$oft to figure out some way to label GNU/Linux
as a 'terrorist' operating system. I'm sure they're working on it
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t's very good.
> > Now I know where the name came from.
>
> That movie's writer/director, Michael Moore, *hates* people who
> don't agree with him. So, if you watch the movie, remember that.
... which is just another way of saying, that he puts his point of view
*ve
; minimal they are, in a slightly more anarchic society.
That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably
leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal
criminals per capita, than other countries? Answers in the back of an
envelope please, addressed to the Director-General, FBI, Washington (I guess
he'd dearly like to know...)
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based. Regards,
>
> I think it makes more sense for governments to use the less
> restrictively licensed *BSDs as a base. This would allow the
> embedding of spyware into the OS to help prevent it from being
> used for terroristic, anarchistic and copyright-infringing
> activ
When it's all
set up, I'll pop it into my No 1 Linuxbox and set about tuning GRUB.
And, no, I'm not going to let those Windoze partitions anywhere near the
modem. ;)No email, no browser. Any internet stuff goes through Debian.
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On Thursday 11 September 2003 10:32, David Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:07:08AM +1200, cr wrote:
> > This may seem an odd place to ask this, but I'll bet some of the folks on
> > this list know more about the technicalities of booting Windoze than
; GRUB.
> >
> >And, no, I'm not going to let those Windoze partitions anywhere near the
> >modem. ;)No email, no browser. Any internet stuff goes through
> > Debian.
> >
> >cr
>
> IIRC, DOS, Win95, and maybe Win98 insist on being on the first pa
x27;t that commercial?(OK, I know, Windoze is, but I already have the
Windoze CDs). I don't mind if the install fails at first, and I have to
fiddle around a bit - it won't munge any data or anything.
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On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:38, Pigeon wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 07:27:23AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> > cr wrote:
> > >This may seem an odd place to ask this, but I'll bet some of the folks
> > > on this list know more about the technicalities of bo
On Thursday 11 September 2003 08:30, Carel Fellinger wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 12:07:08AM +1200, cr wrote:
> > This may seem an odd place to ask this, but I'll bet some of the folks on
> > this list know more about the technicalities of booting Windoze than
> > W
Oh, quite. I wasn't referring to that, but to the suggestion that a
government might want to put spyware into the OS.
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graphically-signed Debian packages.
Considering the heat that the US has turned on China over illegal copying of
software, it could very well be that the Chinese just decided to use an
operating system that *didn't* require either piracy or the payment of huge
and extortionate sums to an Ameri
r loops on
> them. Hence really annoying intermittent faults.
Yes, I agree, swapping drives is best reserved for installs or changes in
system configuration, not just booting into a different OS.
Even though I do also have a box full of spare HD cables. :)
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and "run in MS-DOS mode".
Or, could I just use Linux fdisk?
(much snippage)
> It is also possible to boot Linux from within DOS/Windoze using
> LOADLIN.EXE (again "run in MS-DOS mode") without actually rebooting.
I was thinking of trying that later, though I was unsur
ry storage of CD images produced by mkisofs for writing to CD.
It's handy to have a fixed 'empty' space of the required size that won't get
filled up with junk.So if DOS/Windows goes and writes all over it, it
shouldn't destroy anything that I can't easily replace.
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On Sunday 14 September 2003 12:39, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 September 2003 09:38, Pigeon wrote:
> >
> > (preliminaries snipped)
> > The Linux boot floppy is a bit more tricky.I thought I'd better fir
On Sunday 14 September 2003 23:40, Robert Storey wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 21:23:47 +1200
>
> cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I thought DOS could only handle partitions of up to ~500MB (512?
> > 528?). I must be wrong, it happily formatted 600MB, at least for
>
On Monday 15 September 2003 18:52, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 09:23:47PM +1200, cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > It'd be nice to have a self-contained floppy with just the basic
> > componenets needed to boot a Linux system, so there's room to add a
On Monday 15 September 2003 09:20, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 09:23:47PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > On Sunday 14 September 2003 12:39, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 04:33:22PM +1200, cr wrote:
> >
> > It'd be nice to have a self-c
y make
> statements like this anymore
>
> http://www.toms.net/rb/tomsrtbt.FAQ
>
> 7) Customizing
>
(snip)
Thanks, I've archived that for reference.
Actually, I *did* notice that tomsrtbt is customizable, just that the thought
of customizing a 82-track 1.7MB
This happened even when I hid all other partitions - 1, 3, 5 & 6 - by
changing them to ext2 with Linux fdisk.
Maybe I'm missing something. I think some further reading of the multiboot
howtos (including Windows ones!) is indicated.
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On Thursday 18 September 2003 10:09, Pigeon wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 12:12:02AM +1200, cr wrote:
>
>
> > But neither Win95 nor Win98 would install on Partition 2.They both
> > siezed shortly after the 'License Agreement' stage, and on rebooting
> >
On Friday 19 September 2003 21:12, cr wrote:
(Finally got DOS, w95 and w98 each installed in their own partitions).
>
> Next step, see if I can boot the whole thing with GRUB....
>
> cr
Yep, GRUB booted fine, DOS, w95 and w98.
I just made a Grub boot floppy as instructed i
briefly (with RedHat 9, before I switched to
Debian) it warned me that deleted messages really were deleted, they don't go
to Trash anymore. If that's true, I couldn't live with that, since I'm
forever fishing messages back out of Trash for another look.
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> volume) non-windows users.
>
> My wife wants to know *why* people write viruses...
Yeah, the latest version of Outlook Express has hidden code that trawls the
Linux lists for addresses, then stashes them carefully but invisibly in its
address book as a free gift for the next emai
elves a lot of head aches if they did move to
> Debian. This collective support of the RedHat distribution, without selling
> CDs looks to me like Debian done badly. It will wither away, and the people
> will drift into the Debian community.
Just so long as RH apply their excellent instal
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 12:38, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * cr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030920 20:47]:
> > I love Kmail too, but I'm running 1.3.2 (the version that comes with
> > Woody) and I'm not sure it offers that facility.I believe the newest
> > versio
On Friday 19 September 2003 21:12, cr wrote:
(DOS / Win95 / Win98 install)
> Next step, see if I can boot the whole thing with GRUB
>
> cr
"Progress" report... :)
The 'rgh' was prophetic
Well, it all booted happily with Grub while it was Drive 1
On Wednesday 24 September 2003 20:59, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 07:19:10PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > ... having just recovered from another screaming encounter with dselect.
> > If I ever have to face that Debian installer again I'll... I'll...
>
Well, you asked.:)
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, but Win* didn't want to finish
> booting using it.
I actually came across a couple of threads in the bug-grub archive recounting
remarkably similar problems to mine, caused to /dev/hda, apparently by 'map'.
It's not inevitable, but quite possible, so far as I can tell.
On Thursday 25 September 2003 03:24, Sebastian Kapfer wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:40:14 +0200, cr wrote:
> > ... having just recovered from another screaming encounter with dselect.
>
> One word: aptitude
Thanks, I'll bear 'aptitude' in mind (though I ten
On Friday 26 September 2003 21:52, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2003 at 08:26:32AM +1200, cr wrote:
> > I appreciate that dselect is only part of the install process, albeit the
> > largest part timewise if one uses it.
>
> You don't have to, though.
>
>
On Friday 26 September 2003 22:03, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 16:31, cr wrote:
(snip)
> > dselect is actually not so bad on a one-app basis, it's trying to use it
> > to select all the apps for an install where it rapidly gets old.;)
>
> Call me
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 03:44, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 20:17:21 +1200
>
> cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Conclusions:
> >
> > 1. Back up the MBR and everything else, first!
> > 2. Be very, very careful when using 'map' to sw
was intending to ask for some clarification on this list.
Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to ppp?
I can think of a couple of ways that might work but I might as well do it the
'proper' way. I don't need high security (being the only user) but I'm sure
I shouldn't be posting as root;)
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1. I did have debian install a loader to the partition just
> not to the MBR. I wish I could have figured this out myself. The SuSE
> manual makes setting up grub sound easy.
They all do...:)
Probably your using the second hard drive is the complication.
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:58, John Hasler wrote:
> cr writes:
> > Other question - what's the 'proper' way to give a user (me) access to
> > ppp?
>
> Add the user to the dip group. It is not necessary to add the user to
> dialout as pppd opens the device wh
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 04:11, cr wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:52, Thomas Krennwallner wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Sat Sep 27, 2003 at 01:03:30AM -0800, J Y wrote:
> > > Sep 26 05:42:22 deblnx pppd[1178]: The remote system is required to
> > > authenticate
r/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" )
>
> Then, to use the 'call' option with Kppp, just do
>
> Setup -> (Orcon Internet) -> Edit -> pppd arguments ->
> [type in:] call orcon -> Add
>
>
> Hope I've got this right.
>
> cr
le - no such file or
directory'.
Sure enough, there's no such file. There is a available-old file - should I
just copy that as 'available' and continue? Or will it get something
fatally out of sync?
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:53, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 09:26:14PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > I had a crash while using Kpackage last night (nothing to do with
> > software, it's a hardware fault). I'm up and running again after much
> > fscking, but
your friend :-)
>
8-)
I re-installed Debian last week, this time I settled for what Tasksel gave
me, intending to install the rest later, and sure enough, the *very first
app* that I noticed the absence of was mc.
cr
... just amused by the coincidence
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 02:12, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:23:51PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 21:53, Colin Watson wrote:
> > > 'dselect update' will refetch it.
> >
> > Thanks! Worked perfectly!
>
> Good stuff. Hello t
function of 'kill X but don't reboot the machine' or any other
key combination that achieves that?
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:46, Kent West wrote:
> Neo wrote:
> >On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
> >>Way back in the days of RedHat 5 or thereabouts, whenever X siezed for
> >> any reason, I could kill it with Alt-Ctrl-Backspace and end up back in
> >> th
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 04:42, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 02:42:17AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 11:37:19PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect,
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was the only key comb
at, I
broke things :(
Or do I need to do another 5MB download of a .deb from debian.org?
Regards
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 13:58, Mike Mueller wrote:
> On Sunday 05 October 2003 06:02, Neo wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-10-03 at 13:37, cr wrote:
>
>
>
> > > I just had a sieze in X, and Ctrl-Alt-F? had no effect,
> > > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace was the only key combination
On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've had several of
> > recently is sudden complete power cut - possibly a power supply fault.
> > Either
On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:20, Andreas Janssen wrote:
> Hello
>
> cr (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > Is there any way to install a kernel on the hard drive off the install
> > CD-ROMs (without going through the whole Install process)?
> >
> > Currently, I hav
as *really*
> handy for debugging problems where you had too many nested formatting
> commands and couldn't figure out why stuff wasn't displaying the way you
> expected.
Having seen the horrendous screw-ups that MS Word makes, I'm not surprised
Mickey$oft don't
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 07:04, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 05:09:29AM +1300, cr wrote:
> > > > I've only had one sieze in recent times, what I've h
hat it
> > isn't communicating with Kmail or browsers.
>
> What does the ppp output or log say? Does pinging ip addresses work (try
> ping 192.25.206.10 for www.debian.org)?
Hmm, I may have found it.
With the bf2.4 kernel (the one that ppp works OK with), /var/log/messages
(except for some
FAT16's but we needn't go into that ;)
I'm contemplating swapping some of 'em to ext3, I was just wondering if the
pluses outweight the minuses. It appears as if they do.
It does reassure me, though, that if I happen to run/install a kernel that
doesn
i' kernel,vmlinuz-2.2.20-compact for the 'compact' kernel, and so
on.But there *isn't* a vmlinuz-2.2.20-vanilla, what is called the
'vanilla' kernel is just vmlinuz-2.2.20. So, just hitting 'enter' will
get you the kernel known as vanill
ecommend the 2.4 kernel (you have to select it right at the
start, on the first screen IIRC), since otherwise a few things that work in
RH7.3 are likely not to be supported by the default 2.2 kernel in Debian
Woody.(And no, I can't remember exactly which ones off the top of my
head).
cr
reely, he said."
> > >
> > > ROFL
> >
> > Is that a license for us to copy something not worth copying?
>
> The forbidden fruit syndrome: if it's copy-protected it must be
> good.
Ah, I *knew* there was some reason why Mickey$oft wrote "Do not ma
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 05:17, Pigeon wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2003 at 08:49:26PM +1300, cr wrote:
> > On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 03:49, Pigeon wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:11:53PM +1300, cr wrote:
(snip)
> > > >
> > > > Are there any downsides to ext3?
a Windoze drive with
GRUB on this list than I could find Googling on any Windoze sites
Oops! Maybe all those Windoze lusers are googling too and the list archives
are popping up in Google :(
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7;t.
With the bf24 kernel (under which Kppp/pppd works OK), /var/log/messages is
as follows:
Oct 10 22:06:59 alti kernel: PPP generic driver version 2.4.1
Oct 10 22:06:59 alti pppd[404]: pppd 2.4.1 started by cr, uid 1000
Oct 10 22:06:59 alti pppd[404]: Using interface ppp0
Oct 10 22:06:59 alti
that KDE don't talk to Opera, because they
were all happily doing so under Red Hat 7.2.
cr
(That is, 'cr' as in Chris Rodliffe, not C-R as in Challenge-Response, which
is nothing to do with me ;)
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erefore I suggest you unsubscribe as you have no reason left for being on
> the list.
>
> [I would have sent this off-list but didnt wanna mess with CR]
Very wise. *Nobody* messes with me!
cr
(The only real genuine CR on the list ;)
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as 'LBA', I'm not sure about Lilo.
(This applies to IDE drives. Not sure whether SCSI makes any difference).
cr
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Surely, a lot less Off-Topic than the recent thread on C-R systems,
for example... ;)
cr
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ptions must be set to y
> (compiled into the kernel) or m (module):
>
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI
> CONFIG_CHR_DEV_SG
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR
> CONFIG_SCSI
>
> I don't know if all debian kernels have the necessary drivers.
Not all of them do.Of the Woody (2.2.20) kernels,
to recommend a distro that was *easy* to
use and least likely to send the new user back to what he's familiar with -
W*ndoze.(And dare I say it, that wouldn't be Debian either. Maybe (from
what I've heard) knoppix. :)
Of course, LinEx might actually be very user-frien
On Wednesday 06 August 2003 00:28, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 09:16:29PM +1200, cr wrote:
> > (Next instalment in the fixing-my-desktop saga)
> > Not sure if I should be asking on this list or a Gnome list,
> > but can anyone tell me where to s
s
> the word "whine."
>
> -c
Hmm, I rarely heard it used in England (though I haven't lived there for 30+
years), but I've heard it used all the time here in New Zealand, I thought it
was a Kiwi-ism.
cr
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ght it meant "I am not a LIAR".
Hmmmm. Is there a difference? ;)
cr
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On Tuesday 19 August 2003 20:43, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 02:53, cr wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 August 2003 12:51, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> >
> > (snip)
> >
> > > IANAL, but this is how I've understood the law and, in particular, how
>
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 21:08, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 04:50, Dave Howorth wrote:
> > cr wrote:
> > >>Hmm, I rarely heard it used in England (though I haven't lived there
> > >> for 30+ years), but I've heard it used all the time her
27;re helping (financially)
the 'closed' version and reducing the user base of the 'free' version. That
doesn't matter much so long as the versions remain compatible.
If it's M$ doing the 'closed' version, of course, we know what would happen -
co
e on
Debian), many of them were Re: Wicked Screensaver. I thought they were all
spam but I guess they were mostly bounce messages - something's been spoofing
my (other) email addy.
cr
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