Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-15 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 11/01/16 at 10:49 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 05:43:45PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > > So you don't want another component, but something that looks like a > > > component in some places only? I.e. it be

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 01/14/2016 10:11 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 09:35:31AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> For running a local set of meta packages I would like to >> express package dependencies depending upon other packages >> installed, e.g. >> >> Package: xyz >> Version: all >> Depen

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread shawn wilson
On Jan 14, 2016 5:11 PM, "Zlatan Todoric" wrote: > > > > On 01/14/2016 09:11 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > > Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold > > exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre > > software. > > > > So I think it is very

Bug#811062: ITP: golang-github-pkg-sftp -- SFTP support for the golang.org/x/crypto/ssh package

2016-01-15 Thread Anthony Fok
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Anthony Fok * Package name: golang-github-pkg-sftp Version : 0.0~git20160111.0.8a7343c-1 Upstream Author : * URL : https://github.com/pkg/sftp * License : BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: Go Description : SFTP supp

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-15 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > >> default softphone in Debian[1] > > It should be up to the user what communications tools they want to use > and or have installed (if any), that is none of our business, other > than perhaps informi

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 04:57 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2016 5:11 PM, "Zlatan Todoric" wrote: >  > > > So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we > > > can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products. > > > > > > > You do realize th

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Steffen Möller
On 15/01/16 09:33, Harald Dunkel wrote: > On 01/14/2016 10:11 AM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 09:35:31AM +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >>> For running a local set of meta packages I would like to >>> express package dependencies depending upon other packages >>> installed,

Bug#811069: ITP: lbfgsb -- Limited-memory quasi-Newton bound-constrained optimization

2016-01-15 Thread Gard Spreemann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gard Spreemann * Package name: lbfgsb Version : 3.0 Upstream Author : Ciyou Zhu, Richard Byrd, Jorge Nocedal, Jose Luis Morales * URL : http://users.iems.northwestern.edu/~nocedal/lbfgsb.html * License : BSD-3-clause Pr

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:35:31 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > Hi folks, > > For running a local set of meta packages I would like to express package > dependencies depending upon other packages installed, e.g. > > Package: xyz > Version: all > Depends: ${misc:Depends} > , dbus (systemd >= 21

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-15 Thread chrysn
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 09:34:07AM -0800, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > On Jan 09 2016, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > I think the *policy* for this section should be firmware, as defined > > as code not executing on the main CPU, or something like that. > > Uh, so intel-microcode is still out? From th

Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Alec Leamas
Dear list, In the process of a complicated update, there is a question about how to handle the systemV init scripts when doing the systemd transition. The package (lirc) has upstream systemd scripts which of course are packaged. The existing Debian version has sysV scripts. However, these ar

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Felipe Sateler, on Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:33:37 +, wrote: > On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:35:31 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > For running a local set of meta packages I would like to express package > > dependencies depending upon other packages installed, e.g. > > > > Package: xy

Bug#811074: ITP: libjsonp-java -- Java API for JSON Processing

2016-01-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: libjsonp-java Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : Jitendra Kotamraju * URL : http://jsonp.java.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: Java Description : Java API for JSON Processing JSO

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 15, chrysn wrote: > Right now microcode does not fit in that middle ground from either 1) > (because no DMA to protect us) nor 2) (because things work without as > well). If, at some future point in time, CPUs do require microcode > updates, we might need to revisit this. CPUs *do* require

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Alec Leamas writes: > Dear list, > > In the process of a complicated update, there is a question about how > to handle the systemV init scripts when doing the systemd transition. > > The package (lirc) has upstream systemd scripts which of course are > packaged. The existing Debian version has sy

Re: default softphone in Debian stretch

2016-01-15 Thread Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:08:35AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 15/01/16 04:00, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > >> default softphone in Debian[1] > > > > It should be up to the user what comm

Re: Going ahead with non-free-firmware

2016-01-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 14:07 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 15, chrysn wrote: > > > Right now microcode does not fit in that middle ground from either 1) > > (because no DMA to protect us) nor 2) (because things work without as > > well). If, at some future point in time, CPUs do require micr

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we >> can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products. > You do realize that AMD graphics need proprietary firmware to have > proper 3D acceleration without which you probably couldn't run any game > at al

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:56:55 +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Felipe Sateler, on Fri 15 Jan 2016 12:33:37 +, wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:35:31 +0100, Harald Dunkel wrote: >> >> > Hi folks, >> > >> > For running a local set of meta packages I would like to express >> > package dependencie

Bug#811081: ITP: ruby-alsa-rawmidi -- Realtime MIDI IO with Ruby for Linux via the ALSA RawMIDI API.

2016-01-15 Thread Hanno Zulla
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hanno Zulla * Package name: ruby-alsa-rawmidi Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Ari Russo * URL : https://rubygems.org/gems/alsa-rawmidi * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Ruby Description : Realtime MIDI IO

MIA team still alive?

2016-01-15 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear all, I have contacted the MIA team about a missing dev Known as: Jörg Sommer Using emails: jo...@alea.gnuu.de about two weeks ago, and before that other people have done the same. According to mia-query he is missing since 2012: 2012-09-14: inactive, nice; nothing since 01

Bug#811084: ITP: ruby-rubame -- Ruby Websocket Game Server

2016-01-15 Thread Hanno Zulla
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hanno Zulla * Package name: ruby-rubame Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Mark Saward * URL : https://rubygems.org/gems/rubame * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description : Ruby Websocket Game Server Packa

Bug#811086: ITP: ruby-wavefile -- You can use this gem to create Ruby programs that produce audio.

2016-01-15 Thread Hanno Zulla
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hanno Zulla * Package name: ruby-wavefile Version : 0.6.0 Upstream Author : Joel Strait * URL : https://rubygems.org/gems/wavefile * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description : You can use this gem to creat

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 15/01/16 14:13, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: Alec Leamas writes: Dear list, Given all this: would it be OK to drop the sysV files in a stretch update? I suppose it's not okay, because you'll get a lot of bug reports from non-linux based debian distributions. And if it's not your business, an

Bug#811088: ITP: ruby-midilib -- A pure Ruby MIDI library.

2016-01-15 Thread Hanno Zulla
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hanno Zulla * Package name: ruby-midilib Version : 2.0.5 Upstream Author : Jim Menard * URL : https://rubygems.org/gems/midilib * License : Ruby License Programming Lang: Ruby Description : A pure Ruby MIDI librar

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-01-15 at 09:45, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 15/01/16 14:13, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > >> Alec Leamas writes: >> >>> Dear list, >>> Given all this: would it be OK to drop the sysV files in a >>> stretch update? >> >> I suppose it's not okay, because you'll get a lot of bug reports >> from no

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 03:45:30PM +0100, Alec Leamas wrote: > Support for users not using systemd. I understand that such users will be > unhappy without the scripts - but am I obliged under current policy > decisions to maintain this configuration? Up until the next stable release at least, you

Re: MIA team still alive?

2016-01-15 Thread Amaya
Norbert Preining wrote: > I haven;t got any answer, but if there is none in the very near future > I / the Debian TeX Team will take over xindy and upload a version that > fixes RC bugs. Please go ahead. He's clearly MIA. -- .''`.The world breaks everyone, and afterward, some are : :' :

Re: debian/control: enhanced version dependencies?

2016-01-15 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Felipe Sateler (2016-01-15 13:33:37) > You are trying to create implications. a => b is the same as !a || b, which > is how I expressed the dependencies above. This is easy to do for versioned > dependencies, but not so easy for non-versioned ones (you cannot have > !package in the Dep

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Russ Allbery
Alec Leamas writes: > In the process of a complicated update, there is a question about how to > handle the systemV init scripts when doing the systemd transition. > The package (lirc) has upstream systemd scripts which of course are > packaged. The existing Debian version has sysV scripts. Howe

Bug#811110: ITP: dirtbike -- convert installed Python packages to wheels

2016-01-15 Thread Barry Warsaw
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Barry Warsaw -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: dirtbike Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Asheesh Laroia * URL : https://github.com/paulproteus/dirtbike * License : Expat/MIT Programming Lan

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Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.01.2016 um 16:07 schrieb The Wanderer: > It's not only about downstreams. What about e.g. Debian-kFreeBSD, or > Debian-Hurd? Both are theoretically official Debian, as far as I > understand matters, rather than being downstream distros - but neither > one is supported by systemd. I wonder if

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 15/01/16 19:04, Russ Allbery wrote: I feel like removing the sysvinit scripts entirely would be "reverting existing support without a compelling reason." But I also think that people who want to use sysvinit (or upstart, or any other init system) will have to contribute some support there in

IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-15 Thread startrekfan
Hello, I'm not sure which mailing list I should chose. So I'll try my luck here. I didn't subscribed to the mailing list. So* please put my mail address into cc*. thanks. *squid3 Version 3.4.8* is deployed in the Jessie stable repository.* This version is outdated and has some security risks!!*.

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.01.2016 um 21:01 schrieb Alec Leamas: > On 15/01/16 19:04, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >> I feel like removing the sysvinit scripts entirely would be "reverting >> existing support without a compelling reason." But I also think that >> people who want to use sysvinit (or upstart, or any other ini

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 19:47 +, startrekfan wrote: > Hello, > > I'm not sure which mailing list I should chose. So I'll try my luck here. > > I didn't subscribed to the mailing list. So* please put my mail address > into cc*. thanks. > > *squid3 Version 3.4.8* is deployed in the Jessie stable

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 15/01/16 21:06, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 15.01.2016 um 21:01 schrieb Alec Leamas: On 15/01/16 19:04, Russ Allbery wrote: I feel like removing the sysvinit scripts entirely would be "reverting existing support without a compelling reason." But I also think that people who want to use sysvini

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On 2016-01-15, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 15/01/16 19:04, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > I feel like removing the sysvinit scripts entirely would be "reverting > > existing support without a compelling reason." But I also think that > > people who want to use sysvinit (or upstart, or any other init

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Hi Alec Am 15.01.2016 um 21:42 schrieb Alec Leamas: > It's more complicated. The systemd setup is three different services, > the sysV one. There is no systemd service directly corresponding to > the sysV one. In other words, here is two things taking place at once: > a major upgrade + sysV ->

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.01.2016 um 21:48 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Hi Alec > > Am 15.01.2016 um 21:42 schrieb Alec Leamas: >> It's more complicated. The systemd setup is three different services, >> the sysV one. There is no systemd service directly corresponding to >> the sysV one. In other words, here is two th

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On 2016-01-15, Alec Leamas wrote: > On 15/01/16 21:06, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 15.01.2016 um 21:01 schrieb Alec Leamas: > >> On 15/01/16 19:04, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > > If the names do not match, you can ship a (static) symlink in the > > package, say you have > > /etc/init.d/foo a

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 15.01.2016 um 21:56 schrieb Michael Biebl: > An example for that is alsa-utils: > The sysv init script is named > > /etc/init.d/alsa-utils > > The systemd service units: > /lib/systemd/system/alsa-store.service > /lib/systemd/system/alsa-state.service > /lib/systemd/system/alsa-restore.service

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-15 Thread startrekfan
squid3 3.4.8 has some security issues(risks)/bugs so an upgrade to 3.5 is actually only a fix of this bugs/security issues. There is no patch for 3.4.8 because it's outdated. Debian Jessie is the current active release. So why not fixing squid3 in Debian Jessie with an stable 3.5 update? Ben Hutch

Re: IMPORTEND squid3 stable needs update

2016-01-15 Thread Carsten Schoenert
Hello startrekfan, please don't do top posting. Am 15.01.2016 um 23:19 schrieb startrekfan: > squid3 3.4.8 has some security issues(risks)/bugs so an upgrade to 3.5 is > actually only a fix of this bugs/security issues. Which issues do you refer? What bugs in detail? Have you looked into the lin

Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Wookey
+++ Russ Allbery [2016-01-15 10:04 -0800]: > Alec Leamas writes: > > > Given all this: would it be OK to drop the sysV files in a stretch > > update? Please don't. Some people still use sysVinit and expect things to work more-or-less as they did previously. > I feel like removing the sysvinit

Favoring systemd timers over cron files Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Jens Reyer
On 01/15/2016 09:06 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > If your package ships both a systemd service unit and a sysv init > script, you need to make sure that under systemd the native service file > is used. > The easiest way to achieve that is to use the same names for the unit > file and the init script,

Re: Favoring systemd timers over cron files Re: Removing sysV init files

2016-01-15 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 01/15/2016 09:29 PM, Jens Reyer wrote: Does this also work somehow for e.g. foo-daily.service + foo-daily.timer being favored over /etc/cron.daily/foo? Next to a foo.service being favored over /etc/init.d/foo. Thanks and greets jre No, it won't work automatically. Cron doesn't look at syst

Bug#811150: ITP: python-reno -- RElease NOtes manager

2016-01-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-reno Version : 1.3.0 Upstream Author : OpenStack Foundation * URL : https://github.com/openstack/reno * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : RElease NO

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread gaffa
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Bug#811154: ITP: poretools -- toolkit for nanopore nucleotide sequencing data

2016-01-15 Thread Afif Elghraoui
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Med Packaging Team * Package name: poretools Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : Aaron Quinlan & Nick Loman * URL : http://poretools.readthedocs.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : too