Re: Bug#627983: ITP: bmake -- Portable version of NetBSD's make

2011-05-30 Thread Jeroen Schot
Hello, On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 05:41:52AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > Note: Debian already contains pmake, also derived from NetBSD's make. > > There's also FreeBSD's pmake as freebsd-make in the freebsd-buildutils > package. Yes, but after 15+ years these two have diverged. There is softwar

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Roger Leigh said: > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:09:40PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > (culled cc list of a few people I know read -devel) > > Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > > Given the need to consider unlocking as well as locking, I'm not sure > > > it's worth adding s

Re: DEP-5 format definition hell

2011-05-30 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 01:57:29PM +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Hi, > I currently see a wild mix of different format definitions used by people > hitting debian-mentors. While I personally don't care as long as > the copyright file is complete I don't think this fulfills the goal of > this DEP. >

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:04:35PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > 2) Reinstallation. > >I'm currently using this logic (in postinst) > > # Create dedicated sbuild user > if ! getent passwd sbuild > /dev/null; then > adduser --system --quiet --home /var/lib/sbuild --no-create-h

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:32:21PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > We could add special behaviour to adduser to unlock the account > if it already exists when run in the postinst. Yes. > However, most postinsts wrap the call to adduser with a check for > whether the account already exists, Which

Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-30 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:47:08AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 08:32:21PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Providing that we have consensus on a recommended strategy for > > locking and unlocking accounts which can go into policy, I think all > > we need are examples for h

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-05-27 00:17:45 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 26.05.2011 23:26, schrieb Luk Claes: > > > There are some good reasons to keep some specific *.la files around, > > Just curious: what are these reasons / use case for keeping la files? They are at least read by libtool. For instance, when

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-30 Thread Neil Williams
On Mon, 30 May 2011 12:23:35 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2011-05-27 00:17:45 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Am 26.05.2011 23:26, schrieb Luk Claes: > > > > > There are some good reasons to keep some specific *.la files around, > > > > Just curious: what are these reasons / use case for k

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-30 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 30 May 2011 at 12:23:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > They are at least read by libtool. For instance, when building MPFR > (as a normal user): [...] > Either the information provided by /usr/lib/libgmp.la is important > and this file should be kept, or libtool should not attempt to read

Re: Report from the Alioth Sprint

2011-05-30 Thread Roland Mas
Roland Mas, 2011-05-30 13:49:23 +0200 : [...] > Then it was Saturday evening, [...] local Debian release manager > Neil Williams. Apparently my memory for names and faces is still playing tricks on me, and it was Neil McGovern. My apologies. Roland. -- Roland Mas Give a man a fire and he

UDD access from Alioth(s children) (Was: Alioth status update, take 3)

2011-05-30 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi again, I would like to repeat my question about UDD access from alioth (or one / both of its successors): Is there anybody working to reenable the UDD access? Kind regards and thanks for maintaining Alioth Andreas. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 09:25:37AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > It also

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 29 May 2011, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2011, 10:53 +0200 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: > > Again to cope with the scenario explained at the start of this mail, > > once a user has made modifications we must ensure that they end up in a > > proper patch in debian/patches/. Rig

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 29 May 2011, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > That sounds a bit better, but it adds even more magic to dpkg-source. > I really miss some way to express: "In this account, do not use magic. > If things are not correct and need fixing, tell me what is wrong and > abort so I'll never miss it." (

Re: .la file status and hint to clear the dependency_libs field

2011-05-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:16:13PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2011 at 12:23:35 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > They are at least read by libtool. For instance, when building MPFR > > (as a normal user): > [...] > > Either the information provided by /usr/lib/libgmp.la is import

Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-05-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, I am considering changing the default behaviour of dpkg triggers. [1] Currently when a package activates a trigger (except if it uses dpkg-trigger directly with the --no-await option, and that is a minority of cases), the trigerring package ends up in "triggers-awaited" status and it doesn't s

Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-05-30 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > My question is thus: are there triggers currently in use where this > relaxed behaviour would be wrong? Or more simply are there packages which > are really not working before the processing of their awaited triggers? python-support seems to need that; python does not see

Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-05-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 05/30/2011 06:17 PM, Joey Hess wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> My question is thus: are there triggers currently in use where this >> relaxed behaviour would be wrong? Or more simply are there packages which >> are really not working before the processing of their awaited triggers? > > pytho

Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-05-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 30 May 2011, Joey Hess wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > My question is thus: are there triggers currently in use where this > > relaxed behaviour would be wrong? Or more simply are there packages which > > are really not working before the processing of their awaited triggers? > > pytho

Ikiwiki in Haskell (Was: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?)

2011-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
[dropping d-dpkg@ as recipient] On 11-05-30 at 12:17pm, Joey Hess wrote: > ghc libraries could need [certain kind of dpkg triggers], if any > package depends on such a library being available to be compiled > against at installation time. I don't know if any packages use ghc > libraries like th

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sun, 29 May 2011 10:53:03 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Auto-application of patches > --- > > I would like to improve this situation and not force the majority of > people to add the unapply-patches option (if it turns out the majority > of people use this option or a

Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-05-30 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I don't know anything about Haskell. What does the trigger do? Is it some > sort of non-optional byte-compilation? It makes the cabal package manager aware of the package installed by the dpkg package manager, iirc. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital sign

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Sun, 29 May 2011, Benjamin Drung wrote: >> The file should end with .patch >> (debian/patches/debian-changes-.patch) so that your favorite text >> editor uses the correct highlighting. > At the time I wrote it, it was on purpose that I did not use any > extension. It

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Raphael Hertzog [110530 16:42]: > > That sounds a bit better, but it adds even more magic to dpkg-source. > > I really miss some way to express: "In this account, do not use magic. > > If things are not correct and need fixing, tell me what is wrong and > > abort so I'll never miss it." (Actuall

Re: Ikiwiki in Haskell (Was: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?)

2011-05-30 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 18:58 +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > [dropping d-dpkg@ as recipient] > > On 11-05-30 at 12:17pm, Joey Hess wrote: > > ghc libraries could need [certain kind of dpkg triggers], if any > > package depends on such a library being available to be compiled > > again

Re: Ikiwiki in Haskell (Was: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?)

2011-05-30 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-05-30 at 10:47pm, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 18:58 +0200 schrieb Jonas Smedegaard: > > [dropping d-dpkg@ as recipient] > > > > On 11-05-30 at 12:17pm, Joey Hess wrote: > > > ghc libraries could need [certain kind of dpkg triggers], if any > > > package dep

Re: UDD access from Alioth(s children)

2011-05-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Andreas Tille | I would like to repeat my question about UDD access from alioth (or | one / both of its successors): Is there anybody working to reenable | the UDD access? It's on the list of known issues. Repeating questions means less time to fix the issues that remain. Regards, -- Tolle

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 29.05.2011, 11:26 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > > But it still happens that those patches are generated[1] when the maintainer > > did not expect any change at all. That's why we added the option > > --abort-on-upstream-changes for maintainers who never wants dpkg-source >

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 30, Ben Hutchings wrote: > There are likely to be many programs and build scripts that test for a > kernel version prefix of '2.6' vs '2.4' and will behave incorrectly when > they find '3.0'. Others require that there are at least 3 numeric Expect module-init-tools and three udev scripts

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 23:12 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 30, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > There are likely to be many programs and build scripts that test for a > > kernel version prefix of '2.6' vs '2.4' and will behave incorrectly when > > they find '3.0'. Others require that there are at

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du lundi 30 mai 2011, vers 18:52, Ben Hutchings disait : > As you may have seen, the next version of the Linux kernel will be 3.0 > (or 3.0.0). There is no significant API change; this just shortens the > version string and marks the start of the third decade o

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Hello, On Mon, 30 May 2011 23:30:03 +0200 Joachim Breitner wrote: > BTW, for all who create patches this way and want to later split the > patch into two logically independent patches, I am creating an > interactive patch splitter based on the darcs UI (but only the UI, > don’t worry): > http://

Re: Please reconsider public vcs naming on alioth

2011-05-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson | I think the answer is obviously the former. Someone who pushes to a | repo already needs to know about it, set up keys, etc. A visitor who | just wants to download may know nothing and just guess urls. They're more likely to use their favourite search engine or click on a link

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
Please reply to debian-kernel as originally requested. On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 00:09 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO Lors de la soirée naissante du lundi 30 mai 2011, vers 18:52, Ben > Hutchings disait : > > > As you may have seen, the next version of the Linux kernel will be 3.0 > > (or 3.0

Re: Linux 3.0

2011-05-30 Thread Adnan Hodzic
> We could delay uploading it to unstable for a while if this is necessary > to allow time for fixes to userland. Would this mean we wouldn't have it in Experimental either? Adnan On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > Please reply to debian-kernel as originally requested. >

Source format 3.0 (git) ?

2011-05-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Hello everybody, in echo to Raphaël's question about the use of a VCS together with the 3.0 (quilt) format, I was just wondering, what is needed to have 3.0 (git) acceptable in Debian, and how can we solve this ? Have a nice day, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Source format 3.0 (git) ?

2011-05-30 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hello everybody, > > in echo to Raphaël's question about the use of a VCS together with the 3.0 > (quilt) format, I was just wondering, what is needed to have 3.0 (git) > acceptable in Debian, and how can we solve this ? IIRC, there was a B

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-05-30 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > I have a very minor objection: I think it's aethetic clutter to add > unnecessary file extensions (we're not DOS or Windows), and any decent > editor should figure out that it's a patch from either the file format > or the fact that it's in a debian/patches directory. I am

Bug#628649: ITP: sphinxcontrib-spelling -- spelling checker for Sphinx

2011-05-30 Thread Daniele Tricoli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniele Tricoli * Package name: sphinxcontrib-spelling Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Doug Hellmann * URL : http://bitbucket.org/birkenfeld/sphinx-contrib * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : S