Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:27:57AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > > > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still > > work.

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:51:07AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Package: general > Severity: serious > Tags: sarge, sid > > [please don't reassign to any gcc/libstdc++ package] > > Nathanel's summary: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg02112.html > > A list of p

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > However I've found a number of packages which use a long description which > is more or less the _same_ as the short description. Sample: > $ apt-cache show kdebase-data > (...) > Description: KDE Base (shared data) > KDE Base (shar

Re: versions of -dev packages

2003-06-21 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Here is a script that finds different versions of installed binary packages with the same source package name. Running this script on some of my systems gave me lots of interesting information ... find_inconsistent Description: application/shellscript

Re: versions of -dev packages

2003-06-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 09:52:35AM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Here is a script that finds different versions of installed binary packages > with the same source package name. it does not take into account removed (deinstalled) packages, where only the outdated config files are present.

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Aaron Lehmann
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 03:06:17AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > > Really? Seems wrong to me. > >Indeed. MMX and PPro are orthogonal features. Wasn't there "Pentium MMX" in between? I have at least one computer with one of those processors.

TOP URGENT!

2003-06-21 Thread Alyaf Nakh
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TOP URGENT!

2003-06-21 Thread Alyaf Nakh
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Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Aaron Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 03:06:17AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: >>> Really? Seems wrong to me. >>Indeed. MMX and PPro are orthogonal features. > Wasn't there "Pentium MMX" in between? I have at least one computer > with one of those processors. They a

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2003-06-20 at 18:53, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > I was wondering, should I make a mass filing of bugs for those packages > who fail to produce a proper description? Since this can seemingly be checked automatically, I would prefer you make a patch for lintian and/or linda inst

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Erwan MAS
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:51:07AM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: | Package: general | Severity: serious | Tags: sarge, sid | | [please don't reassign to any gcc/libstdc++ package] | | Nathanel's summary: | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg02112.html | | A list of p

Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Thomas Hood
Some progress has been made toward the goal of making Debian easier to use with a read-only root filesystem. Action has been taken to remove variable files from /etc/, or at least to make it possible to do so locally, in the following packages: cupsys, laptop-net, pppconfig, sysvinit. Packages tha

Developer Accessible Hurd Machine

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings, Some time ago, Martin Schulze pointed out that there is no developer accessible Hurd machine available. I am happy to coordinate the donation of hardware for this if it is this something that you (developers, Hurd and otherwise) feel would be useful and possible? However, I've heard th

Re: [mass bug filing?] Short descriptions being used as long descriptions and other policy violations

2003-06-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 12:09:29PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I was wondering, should I make a mass filing of bugs for those packages > > who fail to produce a proper description? > > Since this can seemingly be checked automatically, I would prefer you > make a patch for lintian and/or li

Donation Available: Alphastation 200 (currently in the Netherlands)

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings, I have a (perhaps somewhat stale) offer from a donor for a Alphastation 200 in Amsterdam. If people are interested, please email me off list. The usual rules apply: Debian developers and people in close geographic proximity to get precedence in most cases but neither is absolutely nece

Donation Available: SGI Indys

2003-06-21 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
Greetings, I'm pleased to announce that there's been a bit of a glut in SGI Indys donated to Debian recently in both California and Germany. There are three Indy's available in Southern California and additional one may have a history of difficult booting. We can work out the details of this befo

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Allan Sandfeld Jensen
On Friday 20 June 2003 15:40, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > As i686 is already like ten(?) years old, > > I was intrigued by this statement and went to look it up. > > CPU: Released: > - > 80386 1985

Bug#198314: RFA: rxsock, rexxtk

2003-06-21 Thread Rick Younie
Package: wnpp Severity: normal rxsock[1] and rexxtk[2] need new maintainers. rxsock - Socket function library for Regina REXX rexxtk - Interface to Tcl/Tk for Regina REXX Rick -- [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/rxsock/ [2] http://rexxtk.sourceforge.net/

Re: ITP: libtext-charwidth-perl, libtext-wrapi18n-perl

2003-06-21 Thread Joey Hess
Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: > Package: libtext-charwidth-perl > Description: Get width of characters on terminal > This module permits perl softwares to get the width of characters > and strings on terminal, using wcwidth() and wcswidth() in C. > . > It provides mbwidth(), mbswidth(), and mblen().

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Xavier Roche
> Packages that still employ variable files in /etc/ include: > mount, ifupdown, dhcpcd, linuxlogo, ppp, util-linux. > Fortunately, some of the files can be replaced by symlinks. > See my README file at > http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/readonly-root.html > for (incomplete) information. >

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Xavier Roche
[I hope I did not sent twice this mail] > Packages that still employ variable files in /etc/ include: > mount, ifupdown, dhcpcd, linuxlogo, ppp, util-linux. > Fortunately, some of the files can be replaced by symlinks. > See my README file at > http://panopticon.csustan.edu/thood/readonly-root

Bug#198326: ITP: gdm-themes -- Themes for the GNOME Display Manager

2003-06-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-06-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gdm-themes Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Many * URL : http://art.gnome.org/ http://ftp.ximian.com/pub/xd2/redhat-9-i386/source/ * License : GPL Des

Experimental: proftpd pre-1.2.9, for brave hearts

2003-06-21 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
Hi guys this is to announce a preview (off sid) for current (cvs) version of proftpd. Testing and comments are welcome. An (incomplete) IPv6 patch is also available. http://people.debian.org/~frankie/debian/sid/experimental/proftpd/ The package will not be uploaded in sid, until a complete IPv6

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 02:13:03PM +0200, Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > server, and it's pleanty fast. But more specialized libraries for i686 would > be a welcomed thing, both the scheduling and additional instructions can give > _significant_ speed-ups for many applications. Prove it or lose

Re: Experimental: proftpd pre-1.2.9, for brave hearts

2003-06-21 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > Hi guys > > this is to announce a preview (off sid) for current (cvs) > version of proftpd. Testing and comments are welcome. > An (incomplete) IPv6 patch is also available. > > http://people.debian.org/~frankie/debian/sid/experimental/proftp

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Come on, we already support 11 or so arches officially, and a bunch of > other unofficially, surelly this would not be so expensive for us. IMHO it's better to be coherent with the ARCH name. If i386 arch is no more supported, let's go to the ne

Can a polish speaker please translate this?

2003-06-21 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
I got a bug report in what seems to be Polish. Unfortunately, babelfish can't handle it. Although I have a good idea of what it might be saying, just to make sure can someone translate it for me? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ ---

Re: Can a polish speaker please translate this?

2003-06-21 Thread Joshua Kwan
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 05:07:36PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Konfigurowanie webmin-core (0.94-7woody1) ... > /etc/webmin/webmin.acl: Nie ma takiego pliku ani katalogu > dpkg: b³±d przetwarzania webmin-core (--install): > podproces post-installation script zwróci³ kod b³êdu 2 > Wyst±pi³y b³êd

Re: Can a polish speaker please translate this?

2003-06-21 Thread Marek Habersack
On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 05:07:36PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas scribbled: > I got a bug report in what seems to be Polish. Unfortunately, babelfish > can't handle it. Although I have a good idea of what it might be saying, > just to make sure can someone translate it for me? Very thoughtful user, inde

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Xavier Roche
[I'm CC'ing to the debian-devel list] Thomas Hood wrote: >>Another small problem occurs when trying to keep /dev in ro: >># /etc/init.d/sysklogd start >>Starting system log daemon: syslogdchmod: changing permissions of >>`/dev/xconsole': Read-only file system > > This occurs when /etc/init.d/sysk

Re: Update re: read-only root filesystem

2003-06-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 01:02:55AM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: > or /dev/pts/XX ownership depending on who is being > logged in.. this is not a problem due to devpts filesystem. It may be a problem for /dev/cdrom. You can ignore it (use a sane cdrom group) or you can use dev filesystem. For the

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 09:11:41PM +0200, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: > Hmmm. Until all of glibc, the kernel and gcc deprecate and discard support > for 386 and 486, I'd love if I could keep my home edgge router running the > way it is thank you very much (and I'm happy with the great job the Security

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 12:57:03PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > M, that's the basis of freelosophy. Don't use proprietary formats and > don't > use proprietary software. The risk of being unable to use your own > documents is concrete. Who owns your docs? Corel does. Microsoft does.

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 09:43:23PM +0200, David Weinehall wrote: > Alternative 1: > > You, and rest of the minority who use libc5 program, can dual-boot > an older distribution of Debian (say potato) where the programs still > work. Yes, it can be a hassle, but it works. Assuming it supports your

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > What about perusing the INT 6 idea, and going all the way up to i686? > As i686 is already like ten(?) years old, I would say 99.9% [1] machines > that run sarge are 686 and higher -- thus, moving to i686-specific > optimizations wo

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 03:28:02PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Stephen Stafford wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 02:25:52PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > What about perusing the INT 6 idea, and going all the way up to i686? > > While I support the removal of 386 support

mkdosfs patch to enable booting

2003-06-21 Thread Sam Bingner
This patch makes mkdosfs accept a new option "-B" that allows it to make a bootable partition. Requires that you give the filename of a file containing valid boot sector as an argument to -B. Will work if you give a bootable partition as argument. EG: mkdosfs -F 16 -B bootsect.fat16 /dev/sda1 m

Re: mkdosfs patch to enable booting

2003-06-21 Thread DJ Delorie
> NOTE: sent to redhat binutils list as it seemed to be the closest to > the proper list. There seems to be no real maintainer for mkdosfs > anymore... Sorry, binutils has nothing to do with mkdosfs.