On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 07:19:28PM -0500, Matt Rowley wrote:
> >Cool - much more then originally thought.  Thnx.  Btw, any sites you could
> >point me at that would sell RAM for such an old machine?  Thnx again.
> 
> Ebay's probably your best bet.

Keep in mind that all you need are 72pin fast/page SIMMs, 60ns, with true
parity. These were also found in many 486's and early Pentiums, so they're
not that hard to get. Just make sure they're true parity (9 chips).
As for the speed: 60ns is what Sun specified, however, in my LX (which, as I
mentioned is basically the same as the Classic) I made good experience with
70ns IBM SIMMs, so it seems that good quality 70ns might work, too. YMMV.


> >Interesting. Well, could I run X-Windows on my machine given a larger HD
> >and maxed out RAM? Its not really important if I can or not, just curious.
> 
> The SPARCclassic has an onboard CG3.  Pretty sucky.  Max out your ram and 
> use a light-weight windowmanager like fvwm or blackbox, but even still, it 
> probably wouldn't be a pleasant experience.

On my LX, I had GNOME running for a laugh... Ahem. You should have a
coffeemaker nearby... ;-) fvwm, blackbox or Window Make should be ok,
though, but the CG3 isn't exactly fast. If you can, try to get a TGX/TGX+
SBUS framebuffercard and use that instead. It's still only 8bit, but a lot
faster than the on-board CG3 of the Classic. (if you're confused by all that
framebuffer stuff, have a look at the Framebuffer FAQ:
http://www.obsolyte.com/sunFAQ/faq_framebuffer/framebuffer.html )
The TGX should be available cheaply on eBay or the likes, I'd expect.


> >>As for the Linux: You can also try Aurora Linux, which is based on RHL
> >>7.3.  It's still pretty much beta, but it runs well on my SparcStation
> >>LX. See: http://auroralinux.org/
> 
> You'll probably have better luck with OpenBSD or NetBSD.

Actually, I found the difference between Linux and *BSD negligible on sun4m,
especially with enough RAM. However, I haven't run any benchmarks as such,
so I'm not claiming to be scientific... One thing that *will* be slower with
*BSD (at least OpenBSD) is anything related to ssh, as their binaries are
compiled for sun4c and don't use some extensions that sun4m offers. That can
be changed by recompiling (which takes time...). The OpenBSD mailing list
archives have a lot about this topic.


Cheerio,

Thomas
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