Sorry guys! I should have noticed, I m a newbie when it comes to *nix, but not such a newbie to etiquette, so I apologise.
And thanks for the support Daniel Goldin I will endeavour in future to only send in plain text format. As for the redhat install, all is now working jus have to work out how to use it now! Regards Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:redhat-list-admin@;redhat.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Goldin Sent: 24 October 2002 17:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: html mail David Wheeler is a self-professed Linux newbie, attempting to install Redhat for the first time. Singling him out--however gently--seems to me a bigger breach of etiquette than sending email in html form. Not the kind of welcome one would hope to get from an open-source community. If you use a good old Linux mailer like mutt and w3m to process html mail and procmail to sort mailing lists instead of using a digest--it all comes out looking like vanilla text. Since I switched to mutt, I no longer seethe with irritation over html mail. Far easier to deal with it on your end (you can) than to pursuade the great big ever-expanding world to follow precise email etiquette (they won't). Don't mean to single you out but do want to present a kinder, gentler welcome to David Wheeler. If the Linux community has a flaw, it is nitpickiness and intolerance of honest mistakes, especially from beginners. On (10/23/02 16:25), mark wrote: > Folks, > > I'll bring it up again. *Please* consider that, esp. in the Unix/Linux > world there are a *whole* lot less people who want html mail. We don't *care* > what nifty font you're writing in, we don't *care* about your > wowser-stationary/wallpaper. > > On top of that, this is a mailing list. A lot of us get it as a digest, and > we're getting it as *email*. All we care about is content. If we get html > mail, many of us, esp. the older hands, are more likely to just ignore it, > rather than wade through it. > > Just so y'all have a clue what I'm talking about, I took a post from the > current digest (and I am *not* picking on you, Dave Wheeler, it's just that > your post was what was in front of me when I got irritated), and I've mangled > the html by globally replacing all the < with a ^. Have a look folks, and see > what the rest of us see. > > mark > > "Oh, would the gift 'E gie us > To see ourse'les as others see us" > - Robert Burns, 18th cent. poet > > ^html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" > xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" > xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > > ^head> > ^META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> > > > ^meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document> > ^meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 10"> > ^meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 10"> > ^link rel=File-List href="cid:filelist.xml@;01C27AD8.5CDE91D0"> > ^!--[if gte mso 9]>^xml> > ^o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > ^o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> > ^/o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > ^/xml>^![endif]-->^!--[if gte mso 9]>^xml> > ^w:WordDocument> > ^w:Zoom>130^/w:Zoom> > ^w:GrammarState>Clean^/w:GrammarState> > ^w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail^/w:DocumentKind> > ^w:EnvelopeVis/> > ^w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4^/w:BrowserLevel> > ^/w:WordDocument> > ^/xml>^![endif]--> > ^style> > ^!-- > /* Font Definitions */ > @font-face > {font-family:Tahoma; > panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; > mso-font-charset:0; > mso-generic-font-family:swiss; > mso-font-pitch:variable; > mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} > /* Style Definitions */ > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > {mso-style-parent:""; > margin:0cm; > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:12.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman"; > mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"; > mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;} > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > {color:blue; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > {color:purple; > text-decoration:underline; > text-underline:single;} > span.EmailStyle17 > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt; > mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:Arial; > mso-ascii-font-family:Arial; > mso-hansi-font-family:Arial; > mso-bidi-font-family:Arial; > color:windowtext;} > span.GramE > {mso-style-name:""; > mso-gram-e:yes;} > @page Section1 > {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; > margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; > mso-header-margin:35.4pt; > mso-footer-margin:35.4pt; > mso-paper-source:0;} > div.Section1 > {page:Section1;} > ^/style> > ^!--[if gte mso 10]> > ^style> > /* Style Definitions */ > table.MsoNormalTable > {mso-style-name:"Table Normal"; > mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; > mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; > mso-style-noshow:yes; > mso-style-parent:""; > mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; > mso-para-margin:0cm; > mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; > mso-pagination:widow-orphan; > font-size:10.0pt; > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > ^/style> > ^![endif]--> > ^/head> > > ^body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='tab-interval:36.0pt'> > > ^div class=Section1> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Hi There^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>My name is Dave Wheeler and I am a Linux > newbie.^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I would really appreciate some help and guidance > on installing > redhat.^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I currently have a 60bg ^span > class=GramE>hdd,^/span> > I am running windows xp pro.^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I have just downloaded redhat version 8.0 and have > been told that I can install redhat over the top and it will keep my xp data > and I could use “grub” to choose what os I boot > to.^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I have used partition magic to create an unused > partition (unformatted) of ^span > class=GramE>15gb^/span>^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I have booted with the redhat disk 1 in the cd > drive, it comes up and I start the process…… this is where I got > scared as I opted to remove all existing Linux partitions (didn’t have > any!) and went on, it found the Linux partition and a dos one???^span > style='mso-spacerun:yes'> ^/span>Is the dos one my xp? ^span > class=GramE>As > there was no mention of it.^/span> ^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I panicked and > cancelled!^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I thought that it would have recognised the xp as > an > ntfs partition?^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I would really appreciate some help! As you ca > probably ^span class=GramE>tell^/span> I really don’t know what I am > talking about when it comes to linux.^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>!!^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>^o:p> ^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thanks a lot^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^p class=MsoNormal>^font size=2 face=Tahoma>^span lang=EN-GB style='font-size: > 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Dave wheeler^o:p>^/o:p>^/span>^/font>^/p> > > ^/div> > > ^/body> > > ^/html> > -- Daniel Goldin 323.225.1926 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:redhat-list-request@;redhat.com?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
