You have to remember it is not Redhat that does the support of your
video.  It is Xfree86.  When Xfree86 supports, Redhat will start support
it too.


On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 09:09, Joshua P. Metcalf wrote:
> I was kinda disappointed to find that RedHat 8.0 does not support my
> Dell's 82845G/GL video card. I was sure that because this card has been
> on the marker since the beginning of the year that the newsest release
> of RedHat would support it...
> 
> Ohh well, guess I have to wait for the next release to see the pretty
> front end..
> 
> Joshua Metcalf
> Network Administrator
> Southeastern College
> Phone: 863.667.5169
> Fax: 863.667.5200
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Redhat Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: RH 8.0.... What do you think...
> 
> First things first it is an 8.0 release. therefore much technology in it
> is new.
> 
> Second Never upgrade anything and expect it to work, it is just
> torture.  Backup and wipe the disk.  OS's are very complex beasts and
> this is a next generation .0 release.  
> 
> It has loads of new stuff.
> 
> The most reliable distro on the planet is debian.  but they are so far
> behind in the software that they offer.
> 
> xfreex6 4.1 kde2.2 gnome 1.4
> 
> but it is rock solid and will do almost everything. e.g staroffice web
> server email server, and has the best ever package management tool
> 
> 8.0 I think is a the biggest thing that has happened to linux, because
> it has such a pretty front end.  The people who buy an os want that. All
> menu driven. it will mature and buy the time we get to 8.2 it will all
> work well.
> 
> But the most reliable is debian, but woody took 2 years to produce and
> is without question the best if that's all you need but is hard to
> configure
> 
> But as a desktop for non linux users RH 8 is the one
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 02:21, Scott Bower wrote:
> > What do I Think?!
> > 
> > Let me say, I was banking on a better job. I use RedHat at home and at
> 
> > work and in both cases had (and am still having) major problems.  At 
> > home I run  a hobby ISP and the implementation of 8.0 I admit wasn't 
> > well thought out or exactly planned beforehand let alone trialled
> before 
> > deployment... I was suckered into believing that the upgrade would 
> > actually upgrade as it has done every time before. My biggest rush to 
> > deployment was as a result of a major drive faltering and the fact
> that 
> > RH8.0 contained JFS which would allow dirty great archives... I 
> > should've stayed with 7.3 and copped the data loss.  I spent most of
> the 
> > past week recovering from this upgrade well and truly long after 
> > hardware glitches were removed from the equation, finding things just 
> > not working and other things segfaulting preventing anything at all 
> > useful getting done.  One such incident involved the freshly installed
> 
> > JFS filesystem daemon doing a better job of DoS than any
> cracker/script 
> > kiddie has been able to do thus far. for whatever reason, the system 
> > stopped, after fruitlessly getting my wife to try dancing with it (I
> was 
> > at work) I requested she cold boot the server (not even an M$ three 
> > fingered salute would work). On booting, the system replayed fs
> journals 
> > and found them good however on automounting, something shit itself
> (read 
> > Core Dumped) and the entire mount process stopped.  The system carried
> 
> > on booting without such inconsequential and irrelevant things as the 
> > /usr directory tree.  Needless to say the server did nothing but sit 
> > there and pull funny faces. I eventually changed the JFS Mounts to 
> > noauto in fstab to allow the bloody thing to work and found that these
> 
> > mounts worked fine when manually mounted (WTF!?!!). A quick shortlist
> of 
> > other showstopping sanity sapping glitches include random configs not 
> > converted, not workable or even better just plain disappearing into
> some 
> > other dimension, non functioning daemons pretending to be functional 
> > (i.e. lights on, nobody's home...) and musical directory structures...
> 
> > the desktop looks nice though.
> > 
> > I wanted to front my employer with a desktop SOE based on this new 
> > release but it's been plagued with a number of annoying "features"... 
> > like random disappearing mozilla and things like that. As a result I'm
> 
> > now looking at other distributions just to save face.  I haven't had 
> > this many problems with a computer since I thought Microsoft was the
> go...
> > 
> > I am yet to read any of the mails you speak of about the problems
> other 
> > people have been having and I guess I might find a little solice in 
> > knowing I wasn't alone.  I will say though that RedHat have blown
> their 
> > own arse off on this one and they can keep their boxed set this time 
> > around...
> > 
> > Scott.
> > 
> > Joe Giles wrote:
> > 
> > >This might not be the most appropriate spot for this kind of
> question, and
> > >I will gladly apologize if someone doesn't like it, but I would like
> to
> > >know what you all think about the new Red Hat 8.0. I am downloading
> the
> > >4th CD now and I was going to install it, but in light of e-mails
> this
> > >last week, I'm not sure I want to with all the problems others are
> having.
> > >I have a perfectly good working 7.3 install and I really would like
> to get
> > >others opinions of it before I format and reinstall. I was thinking
> about
> > >installing it on VMWare and giving it a test drive first.
> > >
> > >Anyway, what do you think; do you like it, or would you wait for the
> next
> > >release (or any fixes)?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >p.s.
> > >Again, if the moderators (or anyone else) does not like me to request
> this
> > >information on this list, let me know and I will post elseware...
> > >--
> > >Joe Giles
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >AOL: mcigiles
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
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