At 07:22 PM 10/8/2002 +0300, you wrote:
>Before asking to this mailing list please

I usually spend an hour or two poking around before
asking the list. Not everyone has such an understanding wife.

>* browse the table of contents of RedHat excellent manuals
>http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/

Moving over from Solaris/HPUX as I am, I consider the
manual average at best. Especially anything related to
the GUIs.

>* search on google

Pretty good source of information but frequently time
consuming to find the correct tidbit of information.

For example, I spent two hours trying to figure out the
correct syntax for turning sound off in modules.conf.
This was a process of trial and error because, as nearly
as I can tell, it is not specified anywhere. Certanly not
in the man pages or the RedHat doc.
I came up with:
  alias sound-service-0-0 off
and now I read that maybe that is not correct.

>* see the distribution release notes if something doesn't work
>anymore as it used to after upgrading
>* search on freshmeat.net if you're looking for an application
>
>If no answer found, ask here. This will keep the list focused
>on problems which haven't been solved yet, being a source of
>inspiration for where things can improve.
Before starting my move to RedHat last week, I had accumulated
several months of messages from this list: over 4000. I searched
on that as a major source of information and it has been my most
useful resource. I've got the RedHat-in mailbox down to 770
messages and have saved off 530 in tech-archive/redhat that I
want to keep around for future searches.

My primary responsibility is not Unix Admin. It is Oracle
development/DBA.  I am in the process of getting Oracle 9.2
working on RedHat (already working in Win2k) and my application
ported up from Oracle 7.3.4.  FWIW, my Oracle-in mailbox is now
stacked up with 5600 messages to review: Oracle tools: 3800
Oracle designer: 1280; Oracle Java only 200 (thankfully). I've
recently added HTML-Mason, mod_perl, Apache and suse-Oracle
to the mailing lists I scan. I've dropped Solaris Intel.

This is all possible now because I'm way under-employed.

I believe it is in the interest of the Open Source community
to lower the barriers for entry as much as possible.

So, IMHO, I believe that:
1. No question is too stupid. Someone who is a member of
our community or wants to join it is participating in that
community.  We do not want to act like a high school
clique.
2. If you know a question has an answer that is easily found
provide the relevant search term without belittling the person
who had the temerity to ask a question. Many people of this
list are very good at this response.
3. Remember that things simply are not as easy  on RedHat
as they are on Winows. I've been in IT for 18 years and am
(REALLY) intelligent and this RedHat migration has not been
easy for me. I am on my third clean install on one of my test
servers.  If we demand that every Linux acolyte spend an hour
or to looking for information we can provide in a few seconds
then we will restrict the growth of our community. There is
power in numbers.









Robert Monical
Reservation Technologies, Inc.
Technology Solutions for Destination Marketing Organizations
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.restek.com




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