On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Manuel A. Camacho Q. wrote:

> Hi, Tom!
>
> I would like to try pine. But, being honest, the unique reason I use
> Netscape Messenger is because connecting to the net with rp3, I just had
> to turn it on and it worked. What (and how) should I set my system to
> get pine to work???

Hi, Manuel,

OK, here's the deal.  Pine is a great program but it conforms to what
seems to be an overall Unix philosophy.  That is, use a bunch of small
programs that do one thing and do it well.  Pine is a very good mail
reader/sender.  But it won't go to a pop server and get your mail for
you and it wasn't initially designed to filter mail.  That's beyond
its scope.  In order to download your mail from your server, use a
program called fetchmail.  Type:

man fetchmail

at the terminal prompt to get information about running this program.
You will need to set up a file called:

.fetchmailrc

to get it to work correctly.

It will get the mail from your server and put it into your local mail
box on your machine.  Then run pine to manage your mail from there.

In the same way, I use a program called procmail to filter my mail
(i.e. distribute it into different mail boxes).  This is because I get
literally hundreds of E-mails a day and I want them separated
according to the subject and who sent them.  Procmail runs all the
time on your system.  All you need to do is set up a file called:

.procmailrc

in you home directory to get it to work.  Type:

man procmail

for more information.

If all this seems like a pain, it's because it is.  Its going to take
a little work on your part to set things up.  That's why so many
people stick with Messenger or some other program that does
everything.  And this really may be OK for the average user who gets
half-a-dozen E-mails per day and just simply wants to read his or her
mail.  But in my opinion (and that of many other "power users"), these
programs rarely give the same flexibility and usability that the
combination of fetchmail, procmail, and pine or mutt give you.

Tom
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when he is the president.
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