On Tue, 31 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Horth
> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 1:41 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Kind of OT: (Redhat) Linux vs NetWare?
> 
> 
> 
> Now - finally - here comes the question! :) - I have gone in to
> evaluate their setup and discovered that most of the workstations are
> running windows NT, with a couple running 2000, and the file & print
> server / internet gateway & firewall is running Novell NetWare. I've
> heard of NetWare before - but never had the (dis?)pleasure of meeting
> such a beast in the wild. One of my first tasks as we start
> negotiating business takeover deals and employment contracts is to
> take over responsibility for the IT management.
> 
> What I'm hoping you helpful folk will be able to help me with is:
> 
> 1) Is NetWare a reasonable beast to administer, they have the license
> already,
>

Netware is very reasonable to administer.  It is rock solid.  It
(almost) appears that many of the Novell developers come from a Unix
background.  Much will seem familiar.  [It is sad that in losing to
MicroSoft, Novell has gotten a rather bad reputation -- not so much among
administrators, but among executives.


> 
> 2) I have to write a recommendation as to what we're going to do with
> the LAN. I
>     really enjoy administering Linux. Are there better arguments as to why I
>     should migrate the services being provided to Linux? Can someone provide
> me
>     with reference as to how NetWare performs vs Linux on the same hardware?
> Oh
>     yeah - the server is a Compaq Proliant 1600 R so I'm pretty happy
> that I will
>     be able to run Redhat on it with minimal fuss.


Your migration plan will work.  Netware works very nicely with other
operating systems: supports NFS.  Their big card is NDS (Netware Directory
Services)  All information about the network and its users are stored in a
single database (which can be extended to include additional info if
needed.)  It is really neat: rights and permissions can be assigned to
large groups of people by assigning them to a 'container' inwhich the
people exist.  

NDS is available for Linux!!  Try it, you might like it.  The integration
will be easy.

 > 
> 3) My gut feeling is that I should use the server as is, then gradually
> migrate
>     the services over to a Linux box (one of our spare servers) one by
> one, until
>     I can reformat the Proliant and set up a Redhat based server that I can
> be
>     proud of! I was also thinking of improving redundancy by setting up a
>     separate firewall / dial-in Linux server, and a separate mail / web
> server

You can do this...depends on what you now own.  BorderManager is a good
product and will do what you describe, but $$$ may be the issue.

>     from the SAMBA file server. Is this what you would do? Can NetWare do
>     appletalk or will I need to keep our Linux server running for that?
> 
Personally, I haven't done much with Appletalk.  Netware will do
Appletalk, but I don't have the specifics.  For example, the BorderManager
for the packet filtering will do some filtering on AppleTalk, but not
all...

> 4) Can you point me in the direction of *any* documents dealing with NetWare
>     vs Linux, or any other information that will help me with this quest?
> 
The 'vs' bothers me a bit.  How about 'and'   If you have a working
network, you are not going to migrate overnight.  Suspect it will be 'and'
for a while. Oh, yea, Caldera has a nice Netware client for Linux (which I
installed on a RH box).  Worth noting that Novell and Caldera seem to be
buddys.  suspect  some relationship that is not totally obvious; perhaps
former Novell executives at Caldera???????


> 5) Are there any other questions I should have asked? :)
> 

Just the obvious ones: exactly which Novell products are they
using: Netware 4, 5, ?.... BorderManager? GroupWise? ZenWorks?
Mostly the stuff works, but you know the feeleing these days, If it
doesn't say MicroSoft, it.......

Oh, yes: doesn't make much difference, but I have been messing with Linux
for 5 years, have a Microsoft MCSE, Novell MasterCNE

Alan

> Thanks loads for reading this far, and thanks in advance for any info
> anyone has to offer...
 



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