Donald Becker also has a "tulip-diag" program, which will tell you wonderful things about the workings of your tulip, if you're having link negotiation issues. FWIW, tulip/Linksys chips have always worked wonderfully for me. -- Edward Schernau http://www.schernau.com Network Architect mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rational Computing Providence, RI, USA -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.