:)
Larry, <big grin>. The problem isn't with my ISP. They have no objection
to me running this configuration. The problem is with select members of
the Linux community (hard to believe, isn't it?). Linux as the operating
system is GREAT! I've never been more pleased, as I now have a virtual
domain, 4 cnames, several users, and several personal email accounts that
I can run off this one box (the one I'm typing into now). I LOVE IT.
The problem is that several Linux list owners have decided that dial-up
Linux accounts such as you and I run are the perfect attraction for
current and future spammers, so they've subscribed to a spam blocking
service that blocks any incoming email from dial-up Linux users that are
using their Linux box as their MTA.
If anything this proves that Bill Gates is still winning, as he's tricked
the Linux community into turning on itself and into killing the very
operating system features that brought most of us from Windows to Linux.
Glen
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Larry Kelley wrote:
>Uh,
>I haven't read this entire thread, but...
>I run sendmail on a Linux server on a dial-up ISP account and have 20 users on it,
>all of whom can send mail as themselves from their Win or Mac desktops.
>Maybe you need a better ISP?
>Larry
>
>----------
>From: Glen Lee Edwards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, November 22, 1999 5:25 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: test post
>
>Charles,
>
>Don't play games. I run a virtual domain and 4 cnames off my linux
>dial-up box, plus I administer several other domains I own that are on
>other servers from here, and have several users on this box. I've been
>told I HAVE to use envelope masquerading and if I don't to get lost.
>Envelope masquerading forces every outgoing letter to read as from my
>dial-up account address. This makes my Linux box absolutely worthless, as
>I then can't run a single domain from here for my business, nor can I
>administer the domains I run off the other servers. If I forward mail to
>my ISP and use it as the MTA instead (a windows configuration) no mail
>from here goes out as my ISP rejects mail from my users with a "we don't
>relay" message. Again all mail sent out HAS to read as from my dial-up
>account, making Linux on this box worthless.
>
>Let's face reality, if you want to use Linux, you better be prepared to
>spend $500 a month for a leased line (as I was recently quoted) so
>mailhelp, vger.rutgers.edu, and mail-abuse.org consider you to be a part
>of the financially elect so you're allowed to use Linux as a Linux box,
>not a Windows clone.
>
>I say again, with the configuration mailhelp and mail-abuse.org/dul are
>forcing us to use, Linux is absolutely worthless. Under that
>configuration Windows is more user friendly.
>
>
>Glen
>
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Charles Galpin wrote:
>
>>Glen
>>
>>You have completely missed the boat here. No one is forcing you to not use
>>your linux box as your MTA. Thousands of us do it every day. You just need
>>to setup your config properly (as you have been told - and how - already)
>>
>>charles
>>
>>On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Yep. That would work better. The system you just mentioned blocks the IP
>>> addresses of KNOWN spammers. The system [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>>> vger.rutgers.edu use block Linux boxes with dial-up accounts who are using
>>> their box as their MTA. I find it odd that mailhelp exists to explain to
>>> us how to use Linux as our own MTA, but when we do so they block us from
>>> using their site. The configuration they've told me I HAVE to use to
>>> access their list requires me to use my ISP as my MTA. They might as well
>>> tell me to bury Linux and use Windows - same end configuration.
>>>
>>> I'm truly sorry I use Linux on my home PC. And I'm sorry that I'm
>>> Internet trash for doing so.
>>>
>>> Glen
>>
>>I'm truly very happy I use Linux anywhere I can.
>>
>>
>>
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