Uh,
I haven't read this entire thread, but...
I run sendmail on a  Linux server on a dial-up ISP account and have 20 users on it,
all of whom can send mail as themselves from their Win or Mac desktops.
Maybe you need a better ISP?
Larry

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From:  Glen Lee Edwards[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:  Monday, November 22, 1999 5:25 AM
To:  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:  RE: test post

Charles,

Don't play games.  I run a virtual domain and 4 cnames off my linux
dial-up box, plus I administer several other domains I own that are on
other servers from here, and have several users on this box.  I've been
told I HAVE to use envelope masquerading and if I don't to get lost.
Envelope masquerading forces every outgoing letter to read as from my
dial-up account address.  This makes my Linux box absolutely worthless, as
I then can't run a single domain from here for my business, nor can I
administer the domains I run off the other servers.  If I forward mail to
my ISP and use it as the MTA instead (a windows configuration) no mail
from here goes out as my ISP rejects mail from my users with a "we don't
relay" message.  Again all mail sent out HAS to read as from my dial-up
account, making Linux on this box worthless.

Let's face reality, if you want to use Linux, you better be prepared to
spend $500 a month for a leased line (as I was recently quoted) so
mailhelp, vger.rutgers.edu, and mail-abuse.org consider you to be a part
of the financially elect so you're allowed to use Linux as a Linux box,
not a Windows clone.

I say again, with the configuration mailhelp and mail-abuse.org/dul are
forcing us to use, Linux is absolutely worthless.  Under that
configuration Windows is more user friendly.


Glen





On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Charles Galpin wrote:

>Glen
>
>You have completely missed the boat here. No one is forcing you to not use
>your linux box as your MTA. Thousands of us do it every day. You just need
>to setup your config properly (as you have been told - and how - already)
>
>charles
>
>On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>> 
>> Yep.  That would work better.  The system you just mentioned blocks the IP
>> addresses of KNOWN spammers. The system [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
>> vger.rutgers.edu use block Linux boxes with dial-up accounts who are using
>> their box as their MTA. I find it odd that mailhelp exists to explain to
>> us how to use Linux as our own MTA, but when we do so they block us from
>> using their site.  The configuration they've told me I HAVE to use to
>> access their list requires me to use my ISP as my MTA.  They might as well
>> tell me to bury Linux and use Windows - same end configuration.
>> 
>> I'm truly sorry I use Linux on my home PC.  And I'm sorry that I'm
>> Internet trash for doing so.
>> 
>> Glen
>
>I'm truly very happy I use Linux anywhere I can.
>
>
>


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