The reason for some problems between 1.4x and 1.4.2 are class file
format changes.  I have had multi issues with some of my prebuilt java
programs.  The Netscape browser has built in java class packages, and
this would explain the crash.  I think projects need to recompile their
classes.  Sun has been talking about some changes for the format for
some time now.  

They have talked about this being the reason for not storing serialized
Swing/JFC objects for a long time.  Netscape may even be doing that.  A
few things would cause the class not to be found as is happening in the
no factory available error: 1) the class file format the VM is looking
for is different thus it won't load the classes (java security and
formating) thus not found, 2) The class is deprecated and it has been
removed from a release...(programmers at times choose to ignore
deprecations),  3) The class path no longer contains a certain jar file
or class file it should (probably not the case because of 1.4 working),
4) There were also some changes to where java classes in package java.*
and javax.* could be loaded from in one of the java 1.4x versions.  Any
of these could cause that situation.  

Some people will probably complain, but me, I say if we can get new
features, enhancements, spead, and better efficiency then more power to
them...;-).  Although that doesn't necessarily help I hope it clears up
the problem a bit.

Wade

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mario T. DeFazio
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 4:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RH 7.2, J2RE 1.4 and Netscape 7.1



Just to let everyone know, I finally found a binary package combination
that works for my up2date'd Red Hat Linux 7.2 (Intel) kernel
2.4.20-20.7:

   - Mozilla 1.3.1
   - Sun Java J2RE 1.4.0_04  (j2re-1_4_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin)
   - /usr/java/j2re1.4.0_04/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
     symlinked into my Mozilla plugins/ directory

I had to do a little digging in the archives of mozilla.org and
java.sun.com, but thankfully the parts are still there.

Unless and until Red Hat issues an update to provide GCC 3.x for Red Hat
7.2 I won't be able to run Mozilla 1.4+ and J2Re 1.4.2+

Regards,
   Mario DeFazio


T. Ribbrock wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:51:30PM -0400, Mario T. DeFazio wrote: 
> [...]
> 
>>Unfortunately, the other plugin 
>>/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so
>>causes Netscape 7.1 to fail on startup:
>>
>>  ws> netscape7 &
>>  INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: No manager for initializing factory?
>>
>>  System error?:: Success
>>
>>and Netscape just dies there.
> 
> [...]
> 
> Odd. One other thing you can try: Get the 1.4.0 plugin (I think it's 
> still available on Sun's site). I'm using that with the Mozilla 1.4 
> RPM from mozilla.org and it works fine.
> 
> Cheerio,
> 
> Thomas


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