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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 18:36:29 -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote:

> Well, if you are worried about annoying the entire list, don't worry about me.
>

Is there any particular reason why your lines are overlong? They
should be wrapped around 70-74 characters. A mail reader could wrap
a second time, but that would give less predictable results upon
quoting.

> I for one would rather have the reply to 
> a question I posted answered right up front instead of having to wade through the 
> muck and the mire of anywhere from 1 
> to 5 message I've already read at least twice. 

It's the only way to keep context. You don't need to read the quotes
if you remember the content of the previous messages always. And if
you don't need the quotes, why insert them at all? But very often a
quote is necessary if you want to understand the reply. And in that
case it is best if the short quote is right above the reply.

Badly formatted message on redhat-list (but also other lists) have
lead to many confusing and tiresome threads where increased effort
was necessary in order to get a top-poster understand the problem
and the solution(s).

> Personally, I prefer one of three things: either in-line posting, but keep the snips 
> brief, top-posting, where 
> I can see on the first screen of the message that pops up in my mail client what the 
> answer to my question was,
>

This is the source of the problem. Many subscribers, who post
questions, watch only for replies to their own question. For them,
it might be convenient to receive top-posts. Maybe they are always
up-to-date with regard to the context of their particular problem
and question. But what about all the other subscribers who read all
(or nearly all) messages and try to help in several threads at once?
For them, top-posting, bottom-quotes and out-of-thread replies
increase the burden. As a result, quite some knowledgable
subscribers have almost dropped from the list and only help when
they see someone else also considers netiquette.

> Plus, bottom-posting may actually be a serious annoyance to 
> blind and visually impaired people who rely on braille or speech,

Is this based on experience or do you guess? It is my experience
that visually impaired people appreciate when all irrelevant text is
edited out and quotes are stripped down to the minimum that is
necessary to keep context.

A quoted complete message at the top with a reply below that is
nearly as bad as a top-posting.

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Trim Down Your Quotes
http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/netiquett.html#TRIM
Netiquette for Email Lists
http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
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