Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner; I've been VERY ill the last few days.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Edward Dekkers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 7:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] Toner pricing - was Minolta QMS 2300 DL Printer > support? > > > > That's the reason I didn't go with a 2200 DL; Toner prices were > > over 70% higher. On the 2300DL, it looks like I can get Toner on > > the web in the high capacity cartridges for $79US (black) and $109US > > for the each of the three colored cartridges. The black has printed > > See, now, my customers would be happy to pay those sorts of > prices. At the > moment 1 US is about 1.67 AUS.(http://www.xe.com/ucc/) > > So, at $132 and $183 these are the prices they USED to pay. > > I'm assuming the 2200 DL is fairly new then? No, actually, it's the opposite; the 2200DL is the older printer, but it's got a slightly longer service life estimate (a few thousand pages more per month, a slightly higher MTBF (IIRC, 100,000 hours vice 90,000). It was also slightly more expensive (~$200US more), but because it was an end of manufacture item, it's going on sale for the same as the 2300DL. The actual SPECS (other than the MTBF and duty cycle) are pretty close to identical, but the toner is 70% higher. I would take a year old technology printer with a higher MTBF and duty cycle, over the brand new one, if the toner was the same and the costs were close, but when the toner is THAT much, and you're talking about a failure estimate difference that's years down the road..... by then, the difference in consumables will mean that I can afford the replacement. TCO justs says get the 2300DL in that case (and to bring that to Linux, isn't that one of the reasons folks like Linux so much? It's TCO is MUCH less than Microsoft). > My customers are using the MagicColor 2 and MagiColor 6600 > (at least 4 years > old probably more). > > Maybe Minolta-QMS don't want to support those old QMS printer > any more and > have hiked the toner prices to force upgrades? > > Pretty brain-dead idea. Who is going to buy one after being > slogged up to > $800 per toner? What's to say the prices are good now and > they won't do it > again? > > Sigh. You gotta wonder who comes up with these brilliant > ideas at Minolta. Hehehe... good one. The "Brilliant Minds of Minolta" is the slogan they've used here in the US for the last 20 years. I'm not sure that you knew that pun, being from Australia, as I don't know that they use the slogan there, but... :) Yeah, forcing your customers to upgrade serviciable products on arbitrary deadlines by raising the TCO and support via additional pricing, or gouging customers as soon as you have them locked in... yeah, that's a trick I bet no one (Microsoft) has ever thought of (Microsoft) before (Microsoft). It does great things (Microsoft) for the immediate bottom line (Microsoft) but hurts your reputation (Microsoft), and ultimately pushes your customers (you and me) away (Microsoft). Does anyone see any company (Microsoft) that does that besides Minolta? (oh, and for the humor impaired, or those who don't speak English natively, the above paragraph has "subliminal suggestions" in it... where sarcasm reigns, as well). At any rate, we're getting too far off topic I guess... -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
