The box is just stock RH8.0 and no X.  No real need to log in on console
in anything other than text mode.

Cheers,
        Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Byers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat 8.0 and random system freezes



Jack Byers     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Dooley, Ryan wrote:

>Randomly, but about every two days, the system will lock hard.  No
>messages in syslog or on console.  The only way to recover the box is
to
>hard boot it.

I have had similar hard freezing;
In my case my vendor and I have found
the culprit the combo of rh8.0 + kde (or gnome);
it often seems to be triggered just after the 4am cron thing.

My box is an old ppro200, being readied as a file server
so when it gets stable i wont be using X much on it all,
except of course for severe emergency, when i may need to bring X  up.
The combo of old ppro bios and the graphics card tnt2 may also have
something to do with the xfreeze.

the only good thing about the xfreeze is i have had
plenty of opportunity to see the ext3 fs recover rapidly from hitting
the power switch.
wow, it still seems like magic!

In my case i have discovered using WindowMaker instead of Gnome or KDe
gets rid of the xfreeze.
if you want to try this, i set itup by:

[byers@linux sysconfig]$ cat desktop
DESKTOP="WINDOWMAKER"
[byers@linux sysconfig]$

hth
Jack


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