Got it.  Thanks.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:38 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> 
> 
> 
> Ignore the kernel patching instructions! It's already included.
> I'm running on this box. It's straight out of the box Redhat 8.0.
> 
> I've been prodded. I'll see if I can scribble up some simple 
> instructions.
> 
> HOWEVER:
> <WARNING>
> You cannot ovelay it on a live system! It WILL erase all 
> existing data 
> on the drive(s). It can only be done on new drives, or at new 
> installation time, when you can sacrifice the data on the disks.
> </WARNING>
> 
> If you're installing new disk(s), or re-installing a system, 
> and don't 
> care about losing the existing data. go for it!
> 
> 
> Ric
> 
> 
> Turner, John wrote:
> > The Sistina site had a pretty good HOW-TO, from what I saw 
> of it.  It also
> > had instructions for patching the kernel...so maybe it is 
> possible to
> > retrofit it.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:10 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>
> >>
> >>LVM is good stuff.
> >>Unfortunately, it's only good stuff if you install it at the 
> >>begining. 
> >>It cannot be retroactivly installed. (that's the bad news).
> >>
> >>If you're building a new system, you'll need to do some 
> planning for 
> >>your filesystems. The boot partition cannot be on an LVM. So 
> >>you can end 
> >>up with something like:
> >>
> >>Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> >>/dev/hda1               124427     19935     98068  17% /boot
> >>/dev/datavg/rootlv      253871    139648    101116  59% /
> >>/dev/datavg/usrlv      2064208   1876556     82796  96% /usr
> >>/dev/datavg/varlv       507748     64738    416796  14% /var
> >>/dev/datavg/tmplv       126931      4756    115622   4% /tmp
> >>/dev/datavg/optlv      2064208     56692   1902660   3% /opt
> >>/dev/datavg/srclv      1032088    198744    780916  21% /usr/src
> >>/dev/datavg/locallv    2064208     47968   1911384   3% /usr/local
> >>/dev/datavg/homelv     4128448    165852   3752884   5% /home
> >>/dev/datavg/Datalv    25040764    252444  23516308   2% /Data
> >>none                    256592         0    256592   0% /dev/shm
> >>
> >>
> >>Note that /boot is on /dev/hda1, not on the logical volume. The 
> >>remainder of the box, is build on logical volumes.
> >>
> >>Sistina has a lengthly discussion on LVM. It's really not as 
> >>complex as 
> >>it sounds. It just takes a little doing to get your head 
> >>around it. It 
> >>makes more sense (human sense) if you are dealing with 
> >>multiple drives. 
> >>It gets kinda fuzzy when you start speaking of "Volume Groups" in 
> >>reference to a single drive. ;)
> >>
> >>I don't think there is a HOW-TO out yet for it. Maybe someone 
> >>needs to 
> >>prod me with a sharp stick, and make me write one... (I 
> >>suppose if I'm 
> >>going to rant about it, the least I could do is write up a simple 
> >>mini-HOW-TO on the subject..
> >>
> >>Ric
> >>
> >>Turner, John wrote:
> >>
> >>>Cool, thanks for the 8.0 info.
> >>>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:28 PM
> >>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Doug;
> >>>>Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, 
> >>>>and didn't.
> >>>>Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up 
> >>>>at install 
> >>>>time.
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm not sure that ext3 will expand "on the fly" though. I 
> >>>>haven't tried. 
> >>>>But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Ric
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Douglas Myers wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands 
> >>>>
> >>>>easily on the 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc.  I'd also 
> >>>>
> >>>>grab the latest 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>toolset for lvm from there as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm not sure on 8.0, but on 7.2 and 7.3, the RH kernel 
> >>>>
> >>>>doesn't have lvm 
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>in the kernel by defualt, IIRC
> >>>>>
> >>>>>/-------Original Message-------/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>/*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>/*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:18:54
> >>>>>/*To:*/ '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>/*Subject:*/ RE: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>OK, cool. Thanks for the rant.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Now, how about a pointer to more information on LVM, like a 
> >>>>
> >>>>HOWTO, whether
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>it's installed by default in 7.2/7.3/8.0, where to get it, 
> >>>>
> >>>>etc. instead????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>John
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:56 PM
> >>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>John Norris wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>and Linux. I
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>windows. Partiton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Magic also supports vfat....
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM
> >>>>>>installed & working.
> >>>>>>There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux
> >>>>>>question with "I have this great Windows utility..".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to
> >>>>>>situations
> >>>>>>like this one.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Once set up, I can do fun things like:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>enlarge a filesystem "on the fly" (no reboots required, 
> >>>>
> >>>>no data loss).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>Add new filesystems "on the fly". No reboot required.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>And more!
> >>>>>>IT's part of Linux now. Stop depending on Windows 
> >>>>
> >>>>solutions. LVM has
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>been with unix for many years. IBM pioneered it a long time
> >>>>>>ago. It has
> >>>>>>since been adopted by nearly every other vendor under the sun.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>There's no need for the continued dependance on Windows based
> >>>>>>solutions.
> >>>>>>It's an insult to the Linux community to do so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>JMHO-YMMV
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ric
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>From: Daniel Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>>
> >>><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>
> >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>>>>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>Subject: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>>>>>>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:39:07 -0800 (PST)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>have used up 98% of my /usr, and need to increase
> >>>>>>>space in /usr. How do I resize it without losing data?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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