The Sistina site had a pretty good HOW-TO, from what I saw of it.  It also
had instructions for patching the kernel...so maybe it is possible to
retrofit it.

John


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> 
> 
> LVM is good stuff.
> Unfortunately, it's only good stuff if you install it at the 
> begining. 
> It cannot be retroactivly installed. (that's the bad news).
> 
> If you're building a new system, you'll need to do some planning for 
> your filesystems. The boot partition cannot be on an LVM. So 
> you can end 
> up with something like:
> 
> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1               124427     19935     98068  17% /boot
> /dev/datavg/rootlv      253871    139648    101116  59% /
> /dev/datavg/usrlv      2064208   1876556     82796  96% /usr
> /dev/datavg/varlv       507748     64738    416796  14% /var
> /dev/datavg/tmplv       126931      4756    115622   4% /tmp
> /dev/datavg/optlv      2064208     56692   1902660   3% /opt
> /dev/datavg/srclv      1032088    198744    780916  21% /usr/src
> /dev/datavg/locallv    2064208     47968   1911384   3% /usr/local
> /dev/datavg/homelv     4128448    165852   3752884   5% /home
> /dev/datavg/Datalv    25040764    252444  23516308   2% /Data
> none                    256592         0    256592   0% /dev/shm
> 
> 
> Note that /boot is on /dev/hda1, not on the logical volume. The 
> remainder of the box, is build on logical volumes.
> 
> Sistina has a lengthly discussion on LVM. It's really not as 
> complex as 
> it sounds. It just takes a little doing to get your head 
> around it. It 
> makes more sense (human sense) if you are dealing with 
> multiple drives. 
> It gets kinda fuzzy when you start speaking of "Volume Groups" in 
> reference to a single drive. ;)
> 
> I don't think there is a HOW-TO out yet for it. Maybe someone 
> needs to 
> prod me with a sharp stick, and make me write one... (I 
> suppose if I'm 
> going to rant about it, the least I could do is write up a simple 
> mini-HOW-TO on the subject..
> 
> Ric
> 
> Turner, John wrote:
> > Cool, thanks for the 8.0 info.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:28 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>
> >>
> >>Doug;
> >>Thanks for adding that. I meant to put in a link to sistina, 
> >>and didn't.
> >>Yes, LVM is included with RH 8.0. In fact, you can set it up 
> >>at install 
> >>time.
> >>
> >>I'm not sure that ext3 will expand "on the fly" though. I 
> >>haven't tried. 
> >>But ReiserFS, jfs, and xfs all will.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ric
> >>
> >>
> >>Douglas Myers wrote:
> >>
> >>>http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm
> >>> 
> >>>lvm homepage, has HOWTO, etc
> >>> 
> >>>I'd also suggest looking into a filesystem that expands 
> >>
> >>easily on the 
> >>
> >>>fly, reiserFS, jfs (needs a patch), xfs, etc.  I'd also 
> >>
> >>grab the latest 
> >>
> >>>toolset for lvm from there as well.
> >>> 
> >>>I'm not sure on 8.0, but on 7.2 and 7.3, the RH kernel 
> >>
> >>doesn't have lvm 
> >>
> >>>in the kernel by defualt, IIRC
> >>> 
> >>>/-------Original Message-------/
> >>> 
> >>>/*From:*/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>/*Date:*/ Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:18:54
> >>>/*To:*/ '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>/*Subject:*/ RE: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>> 
> >>>OK, cool. Thanks for the rant.
> >>>
> >>>Now, how about a pointer to more information on LVM, like a 
> >>
> >>HOWTO, whether
> >>
> >>>it's installed by default in 7.2/7.3/8.0, where to get it, 
> >>
> >>etc. instead????
> >>
> >>>John
> >>>
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Tibbetts, Ric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:56 PM
> >>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> > Subject: Re: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > John Norris wrote:
> >>> > > I ran into the sae problem on my pc, I am dual booting XP,
> >>> > and Linux. I
> >>> > > used Partition Magic 8.0 and resized the partitions in
> >>> > windows. Partiton
> >>> > > Magic also supports vfat....
> >>> >
> >>> > People really need to get on the bandwagon, and get LVM
> >>> > installed & working.
> >>> > There's nothing bugs me worse than to see soemone answer a Linux
> >>> > question with "I have this great Windows utility..".
> >>> >
> >>> > LVM folks. Look it up, learn it, use it! IT's the answer to
> >>> > situations
> >>> > like this one.
> >>> >
> >>> > Once set up, I can do fun things like:
> >>> >
> >>> > enlarge a filesystem "on the fly" (no reboots required, 
> >>
> >>no data loss).
> >>
> >>> > Add new filesystems "on the fly". No reboot required.
> >>> >
> >>> > And more!
> >>> > IT's part of Linux now. Stop depending on Windows 
> >>
> >>solutions. LVM has
> >>
> >>> > been with unix for many years. IBM pioneered it a long time
> >>> > ago. It has
> >>> > since been adopted by nearly every other vendor under the sun.
> >>> >
> >>> > There's no need for the continued dependance on Windows based
> >>> > solutions.
> >>> > It's an insult to the Linux community to do so.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > JMHO-YMMV
> >>> >
> >>> > Ric
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> From: Daniel Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > 
> >> > >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> >> > >> Subject: how to resize partition without losing data?
> >> > >> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:39:07 -0800 (PST)
> >> > >>
> >> > >> have used up 98% of my /usr, and need to increase
> >> > >> space in /usr. How do I resize it without losing data?
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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