Randy get open office 1.1, its "better" (I really mean that)

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Randy Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 06:06
Subject: RE: Microsoft Update?


> Greetings,
> 
> Yes, MS is THAT Stupid, but then again with 40+ Billion dollars in the
> bank they can afford to do this.
> 
> The Office Update site does have updates for Office 97 (I have osr2 on
> my Win2k box at home -- Rapidly being replaced by OpenOffice 1.0 BTW).
> However the useful auto detection that Office 2000/XP/11 have is not
> supported for Office 97.  MS did this, you guessed it, to give the user
> an incentive to upgrade their stuff to the latest and greatest.
> 
> To get the Office 97 stuff (they haven't released ANYTHING for this
> product in YEARS) you would have to manually select that product type
> from the menu they give you.
> 
> Also, I have seen lately, due to the rash of IE vulns, that MS has
> started requiring that you REMOVE your Security protections to even GET
> the updates that will fix a vuln... In some cases, a certain fix, means
> you have to turn OFF the very thing that you would need to get the
> update...
> 
> I know that MS takes a lot of heat, and to be sure (like turning off any
> services your servers don't ABSOLUTELY need) their products do require
> tinkering, but I have NEVER had any of these problems with Netscape,
> Opera, Mozilla, et al.
> 
> I only use IE for updating the PC's here at work, and even that is
> getting replaced by other methods (as time and money allow).
> 
> Now if I can just get my users to stop using IE.....
> 
> RandyW
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> On Behalf Of Steve Coffman
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Microsoft Update?
> 
> LOL....... I then used IE and got this:
> 
> Sorry!
> The Product Updates site supports Office 2000 and Office XP only
> In order to take advantage of the update detection service provided by
> the 
> Product Updates site, you need to have Office 2000 or Office XP
> installed 
> on your machine. For updates to earlier versions of Office please go to
> the 
> <../Downloads/default.htm>Office Download Center.
> 
> 
> Are they a great rip off or what. really earn their trusted reputation!
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:29 PM 1/9/03 -0800, Steve Coffman wrote:
> >Well this is interesting as it is humorous.
> >My wife's system came down with a virus and I did a full wipe and 
> >re-install. We are still using Win98 on the desktops since we are both 
> >avid game players. I absolutely refuse to use Outlook in any form (I
> use 
> >Eudora), and I have not used "Infection Explosion" (IE) since version
> 4.0 
> >( I use Opera).
> >Anyway, I re-installed the Office 97 sr2 on my wife's computer and then
> 
> >went to the Microsoft Update site  for any security patches.
> >This was my response from MS (LOL):
> >
> >To find the updates you need faster and easier,
> >visit this site with MSN or Internet Explorer.
> >
> >The Office Product Updates site can perform detection on your computer
> and 
> >tell you exactly which updates you need! To take advantage of this 
> >service, please visit the site with MSN Explorer or Microsoft Internet 
> >Explorer version 5.0 or later. If you are already using Internet
> Explorer 
> >5.0 or later and you are using a personal firewall product, your
> personal 
> >firewall product may be interfering with browser detection. Please turn
> 
> >off your personal firewall product and then try visiting this site
> again.
> >Internet Explorer can be downloaded from the Microsoft Internet
> Explorer 
> >Homepage.
> >Search for Office Product Updates on the Office Download Center.
> >
> >Are they really that stupid? Never mind, rhetorical question :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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