when I telnet *into* a redhat 5.1 box with the "telnet -8 " command, so force 8 bit telnet, I get stairsteps. any other combination, I don't. does anyone else see this? rob -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.