Kit

Many thanks -  I have only just caught up with this thread and
appreciate your comments.


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On 18 May, Kit Cosper wrote:
> [...]
>> 
>>   I'm not defending them! But, I can understand their position. They're
>> selling their distribution for a very reasonalble -- i.e., low -- price,
>> and they're entitled to make a good living. So they sell support.
>> 
>>   Yes, the docs are a bit thin in places. But, I'd bet that's because we
>> all have slightly different configurations and problems. If they are very
>> smart, they'll monitor this list and see if there are specific installation
>> problems which they could document better.
>> 
>       A couple of quick notes.  As former keeper of the RH Installation
> Guide (4.0 was the end of my tenure at Red Hat) and (most) all things
> support-related, I can offer a bit of a different slant on things.  Not
> to defend or offend anyone, but simply to try and enlighten.
> 
> -It's difficult to write a manual for something that you can do in your
> sleep.  The current manual is light-years beyond what I helped produce.
> Still, the myriad possibilities for configurations are mind-boggling.
> You just can't cover everything.  The current keeper is a much better
> scribe than I will ever be and I'm sure he will keep working to make the
> manual as good as it can get.  Given what he had to work with he has already
> done amazing things.
> 
> -Support is not a simple task.  No matter how much you see and do there
> is always something so wild and esoteric that it takes a bit of head bashing
> (your own, against the nearest wall) to see the problem sometimes.  There
> are questions that come in so shrouded in minutia that you forget to take
> a step back and refocus.  There are other things that appear blatantly 
> obvious but aren't.  Then there are times that the support system belches
> and a message gets sent to /dev/null.  When the workload gets high things
> slow down.  All of this can combine to make things look really bad for 
> some folks.  For most all runs well.
> 
> -In my day Faxen were the bane of my existence.  Don't know about now,
> but may well be the case today.  I could deal with 8-10 email messages
> in the time it took to respond to a single fax.   Applixware may have 
> improved that over time.  :-)
> 
> -If you have a sales/upgrade question try [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I assume
> that's still a valid address)  they can get the answers to you much 
> quicker and more accurate than the support folks.  Support folks are 
> probably going to forward them there anyway, and this keeps them 
> from having to deal with non-support inquiries.
> 
> -They are listening, and everyone I know at Red Hat (most, but not all
> these days) wants to provide the best product, support and service that 
> they can.  But they're only human, and we all make mistakes from time to
> time.
> 
> Back to the sidelines...

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                        NC 27709, USA


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