I don't have any special privileges... when I view the Google group, I
don't see a "Members" page at all and no where to invite anyone else. All I
can access is a link "My membership settings".

--- nadeem


On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 3:49 PM Robby Findler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> When I follow the link at the bottom of one of these messages, click on
> members, I see an "add members" button and clicking on it gives me a place
> to add email addresses. I didn't actually add email addresses to the list
> and try to add them, and I might have already had special privileges on
> this list so that might not have been the most useful test.
>
> Robby
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 11:32 AM Sage Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Alright, thanks to all of you for the quick replies. As of this writing,
>> the list has been reconfigured to create an explicit perimeter between the
>> non-members and members. The public can no longer let themselves in.
>>
>> Not totally out of the woods yet.
>>
>>    1. Someone please confirm if you can invite others using Members page
>>    -> "Add Member". If not, then please follow up with me.
>>    2. This model can be compromised by someone going rogue and inviting
>>    a bunch of spammers. I'm expecting that our communal trust is high enough
>>    to make this unlikely.
>>
>> Considering the risk profile seems less scary, disregard request to
>> delete my emails. :)
>> On 12/18/21 3:02 PM, Matthias Felleisen wrote:
>>
>>
>> +2! And many thanks. (I was personally spared this spam until very
>> recently. No clue why)
>>
>> — Matthias
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robby Findler <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1! Thank you.
>>
>> Robby
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 1:43 PM Matthew Flatt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The "members" option sounds right to me. Thanks for tracking down a way
>>> to improve the situation!
>>>
>>> At Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:35:23 +0000, Sage Gerard wrote:
>>> > Core team,
>>> >
>>> > Sam asked me to issue bans for a troublesome spammer. I've done so,
>>> even
>>> > just today. I understand I need quorum for larger decisions. This is
>>> why
>>> > I have not yet reconfigured the list to permanently stop the spammer.
>>> > After researching the problem further, I need your urgent attention.
>>> >
>>> > I found that the spam messages sometimes link to other Google group
>>> > posts affected by the spammer. A recent trail leads to a
>>> > comp.lang.python Google message in 2017. I suspect that email addresses
>>> > are scraped in unmoderated lists that freely hand out membership. After
>>> > checking the list settings, I found that this is one of those lists. I
>>> > hypothesize that our email addresses are being scraped and
>>> > cross-referenced for use in other unmoderated lists.
>>> >
>>> > It's one thing to flatly complain about a spammer on this list, and
>>> > another to willingly maintain a transmission vector. We need to stop
>>> > automatically handing out group membership with our current settings.
>>> We
>>> > can have ________ issue list memberships. I need you all to fill in the
>>> > blank with "moderators" or "members." I'll translate the settings
>>> > accordingly.
>>> >
>>> > Given the holidays, I respect your time. Please reciprocate with
>>> respect
>>> > for the urgency this problem creates. I will revoke my own mailing list
>>> > privileges and membership in three weeks, on January 8th, 2022. I will
>>> > leave the settings however they read at the time to prevent
>>> > interruption, and request that own messages then be deleted to limit
>>> the
>>> > role my email address plays for the spammer.
>>> >
>>> > I am not volunteering to moderate membership applications, and I am not
>>> > commenting on how to verify the impact of possible email leaks. Between
>>> > the Discourse move and (majority?) perspective towards email, I'm not
>>> > sure how I would be useful doing either. If my opinion holds weight,
>>> I'd
>>> > advise the answer be "members" so that any available moderators can
>>> > focus on rule breakers while the community grows at a self-directed
>>> speed.
>>> >
>>> > Let me know, and thank you.
>>> >
>>> >
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