On 10/22/2009 9:48 AM, rkevinbur...@charter.net wrote:
I am having a hard time interpreting the results of the 'shapiro.test' for 
normality. If I do ?shapiro.test I see two examples using rnorm and runif. When 
I run the test using rnorm I get a wide variation of results. Most of this may 
be from variability of rnorm, samll sample size (limited to 5000 for the test), 
etc but if I repeat the test multiple times I can get:

shapiro.test(rnorm(4900, mean = 5, sd = 3))

        Shapiro-Wilk normality test

data: rnorm(4900, mean = 5, sd = 3) W = 0.9994, p-value = 0.09123

With a p-value of 0.09 it doesn't give me alot of confidence that either rnorm is 
producing a normal distirbution of this test is very reliable. Obivously this test has 
gained wide acceptance so I was wondering if I am expecting too much? Is there a 
"better" test?


I think you don't understand what p-values mean. If the null is true, p is distributed as U(0,1).

You can see

Murdoch, D.J., Tsai, Y.-L. and Adcock, J. (2008).  P-values are random
variables.  {\em The American Statistician}, 242-245.

for more details (and exceptions to this very general rule).

Duncan Murdoch

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