On 25/06/2009, at 12:27 PM, Craig P. Pyrame wrote:


Dear Stavros,

What you discuss below is somewhat scary to me as an R newbie. Is this
just an incident, a bug perhaps, or rather the way things typically go
in R, as your "Welcome to R!" seems to suggest? I have just started to
learn R, and my initial euphoria of the "I can do anything with it!"
sort is gradually turning into an "I can't get why it doesn't work" and
"I can't get how to make this work" depression.  I would be happy to
blame this on my incompetence and incapability, but would also like to
hear if it is not R itself that causes me to fail.

Do not get your knickers in a twist. R works simply and straightforwardly in simple straightforward situations. In less simple and less straightforward
        situations life gets more complicated.  Don't dive into such situations
without making sure you understand them. Check your results to make sure
        you have not overlooked a subtlety.

In respect of the current discussion of ifelse() --- the original problem arose because the values of ``yes'' and ``no'' were of different modes. It is obvious that in such instances a decision will have to be made about the mode of the result. The appropriateness of the designers' decision may be disputed, but you have to admit that some decision had to be made. Recognize that and all
        the mystery goes away.

If you don't understand what's going on, then just stick to using ifelse() only
        when ``yes'' and ``no'' have the same mode.

Using things like as.raw() or taking one of ``yes'' and ``no'' to be a list is getting into territory where you need to be quite sophisticated and quite careful. Unless you are both, don't go there. I consider myself to be both (in respect of R at
        least) and I *still* would be very reluctant to go there.

Bottom line: R is easy to use at any level, but in order to use it a ``high'' level you need to understand the high level. Don't attempt to run before you can crawl.

                cheers,

                        Rolf Turner

Best regards,
Craig


Stavros Macrakis wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Mark Na<mtb...@gmail.com> wrote:

The problem is that after running the ifelse statement, data $SOCIAL_STATUS
is converted from a factor to a character.
Is there some way I can avoid this conversion?


I'm afraid that ifelse has very bizarre semantics when the yes and no
arguments don't have the same, atomic vector, type.

The quick workaround for the bizarre semantics (though it can have a
significant efficiency cost) is this:

       unlist( ifelse ( condition, as.list( yes ), as.list( no ) ) )

(This isn't perfect, either, but...)

Take a look at the man page for details and the warning:

The mode of the result may depend on the value of 'test', and the
     class attribute of the result is taken from 'test' and may be
     inappropriate for the values selected from 'yes' and 'no'.

Some consequences of the definition of ifelse are:

Even if the classes of the yes and no arguments are identical, the
result does not necessarily have that class:

    ifelse(TRUE,as.raw(4),as.raw(5)) => error

    ifelse(TRUE,factor('x'),factor('x')) => 1      (integer)

    dates <- as.POSIXct(c('1990-1-1','2000-1-1'))
ifelse(c(TRUE,FALSE),dates,dates) => 631170000 946702800 (double)

ifelse(c(TRUE,FALSE),factor(c('x','y')),factor(c('y','x'))) => 1 1

If they have different classes, things get stranger:

    ifelse(c(TRUE,FALSE),c("a","b"),factor(c("c","d")))  =>  "a" "2"

    ifelse(c(TRUE,FALSE),list(1,2),as.raw(4))
    [[1]]
    [1] 1

    [[2]]
    [1] 04

Result is order-dependent:

    ifelse(c(TRUE,FALSE),as.raw(4),list(1,2))
Error in ans[test & !nas] <- rep(yes, length.out = length(ans)) [test & : incompatible types (from raw to logical) in subassignment type fix

Welcome to R!


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