The _point_ is to explain the story of the research so people can compare easily with other work. A story interrupted by tedious details is not very comprehensible. And I _did_ recommend providing a link to a code repository and using reproducible coding tools.
On December 30, 2024 7:35:37 PM PST, "Ebert,Timothy Aaron" <teb...@ufl.edu> wrote: >Maybe I misunderstand, but if the results cannot be reproduced, what is the >point? I did some secret stuff (after talking to my friend the witch doctor) >and here are my results. Some analyses preclude exact reproduction, but then >researchers should rerun the analysis several times to provide a range or >field of possible/probable results. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Newmiller <jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us> >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2024 7:52 PM >To: r-help@r-project.org; Ebert,Timothy Aaron <teb...@ufl.edu>; Erin Hodgess ><erinm.hodg...@gmail.com>; r-help@r-project.org >Subject: Re: [R] Citation for stock price data from Quantmod > >[External Email] > >While asking if you should document what you did and give credit where due >seems... unnecessary (of course you should) ... I believe we are beyond the >point where a paper alone can allow me to reproduce most relevant published >analyses. That is, including a link to a reproducible code repository with a >list of exact package/versions used and to the exact data used as input are >necessary to achieve that degree of completeness. It is non-trivial even with >tools like renv and a complete repo to document all of the decisions required >to reproduce a published result months or years later... expecting citations >and technical discussion alone to catch everything is IMO an unrealistic goal. >The paper can only cover the general outline of the work, and should be >complete enough to allow someone else to perform a validation study... most >likely with different tools and data sets to check how robust the results are. > >If the results can only be reproduced with one data source, it may not deserve >high regard in general, and documenting that you used a narrow slice of >information as the foundation of your conclusions might be a sort of "YMMV" >caution to the reader. > >On December 30, 2024 4:02:08 PM PST, "Ebert,Timothy Aaron" <teb...@ufl.edu> >wrote: >>Yes, you need to cite the source of data and the method for retrieval. You >>also need to cite programs used in manipulating the data, cleaning the data, >>and analyzing the data. I should be able to read what you wrote, and using >>those methods recover the data independently from you and finish all other >>steps in the analysis. I should not have to guess. >> >>Tim >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: R-help <r-help-boun...@r-project.org> On Behalf Of Erin Hodgess >>Sent: Monday, December 30, 2024 12:17 AM >>To: r-help@r-project.org >>Subject: [R] Citation for stock price data from Quantmod >> >>[External Email] >> >>Hello! >> >>Happy Holidays! >> >>I have a question about citing stock price data downloaded via Quantmod, >>please. Of course, I will cite Quantmod. Do I also need to cite Yahoo >>Finance as the actual source of the data, please? >>Also, I'm not sure if this is a question for the Finance sig, but thought I >>would start here. >> >>Thank you. >> >>Erin Hodgess, PhD >>mailto: erinm.hodg...@gmail.com >> >> [[alternative HTML version deleted]] >> >>______________________________________________ >>R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>https://stat/. >>ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7 >>C63f10a3f3aed465b4cfc08dd29354696%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C >>0%7C0%7C638712030988681340%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy >>dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3 >>D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ykK%2BBt78wpifx16tATeYOx1kZk6Nh52r27u0O30p3kM%3D&r >>eserved=0 PLEASE do read the posting guide >>https://www.r/ >>-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C63f >>10a3f3aed465b4cfc08dd29354696%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C >>0%7C638712030988696546%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUs >>IlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C >>0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=RH3My8IjG6fXIdHGQF36PY6kDDG%2FpdgW9BGRAfHY1cE%3D&reser >>ved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible >>code. >> >>______________________________________________ >>R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see >>https://stat/. >>ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fr-help&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7 >>C63f10a3f3aed465b4cfc08dd29354696%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C >>0%7C0%7C638712030988704618%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRy >>dWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3 >>D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TM0NCMmYxYx5%2FIUldYRX%2FCdpuzby7HaNOccXX6t1H8Y%3D >>&reserved=0 PLEASE do read the posting guide >>https://www.r/ >>-project.org%2Fposting-guide.html&data=05%7C02%7Ctebert%40ufl.edu%7C63f >>10a3f3aed465b4cfc08dd29354696%7C0d4da0f84a314d76ace60a62331e1b84%7C0%7C >>0%7C638712030988712694%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUs >>IlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C >>0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CGXXrN%2Bb7thp88QaB9GCipUnFwujDCJkNwGPF6kgshI%3D&reser >>ved=0 and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible >>code. > >-- >Sent from my phone. 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