Dear Bill, All makes perfect sense (including the late evaluation). I actually discovered the problem by looking at old code which used your proposed solution. Still I find it strange (and, hnestly, I don’t like R’s behavior in this respect), and I am wondering why u is not being copied to L just before u is assigned a new value. Of course, this would require the R interpreter to track all these dependencies in both ways incl. more complicated ones in which L might depend on more than just u.
In the future, I’ll avoid dependencies between parameters. Su4 <- function(u=100, l=100, mu=0.53, sigma2=4.3^2) # instead of l=u And maybe also „in-place“ changes of values… Best regards, Matthias Von: William Dunlap Gesendet: Samstag, 2. September 2017 19:41 An: Rui Barradas Cc: Matthias Gondan; r-help@r-project.org Betreff: Re: [R] Strange lazy evaluation of default arguments Another way to avoid the problem is to not redefine variables that are arguments. E.g., > Su3 <- function(u=100, l=u, mu=0.53, sigma2=4.3^2, verbose) { if (verbose) { print(c(u, l, mu)) } uNormalized <- u/sqrt(sigma2) lNormalized <- l/sqrt(sigma2) muNormalized <- mu/sqrt(sigma2) c(uNormalized, lNormalized, muNormalized) } > Su3(verbose=TRUE) [1] 100.00 100.00 0.53 [1] 23.2558140 23.2558140 0.1232558 > Su3(verbose=FALSE) [1] 23.2558140 23.2558140 0.1232558 Not redefining variables at all makes debugging easier, although it may waste space. Bill Dunlap TIBCO Software wdunlap tibco.com On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 10:33 AM, <ruipbarra...@sapo.pt> wrote: Hello, One way of preventing that is to use ?force. Just put force(l) right after the commented out print and before you change 'u'. Hope this helps, Rui Barradas Citando Matthias Gondan <matthias-gon...@gmx.de>: Dear R developers, sessionInfo() below Please have a look at the following two versions of the same function: 1. Intended behavior: Su1 = function(u=100, l=u, mu=0.53, sigma2=4.3^2) + { + print(c(u, l, mu)) # here, l is set to u’s value + u = u/sqrt(sigma2) + l = l/sqrt(sigma2) + mu = mu/sqrt(sigma2) + print(c(u, l, mu)) + } Su1() [1] 100.00 100.00 0.53 [1] 23.2558140 23.2558140 0.1232558 In the first version, both u and l are correctly divided by 4.3. 2. Strange behavior: Su2 = function(u=100, l=u, mu=0.53, sigma2=4.3^2) + { + # print(c(u, l, mu)) + u = u/sqrt(sigma2) + l = l/sqrt(sigma2) # here, l is set to u’s value + mu = mu/sqrt(sigma2) + print(c(u, l, mu)) + } Su2() [1] 23.2558140 5.4083288 0.1232558 In the second version, the print function is commented out, so the variable u is copied to l (lowercase L) at a later place, and L is divided twice by 4.3. Is this behavior intended? It seems strange that the result depends on a debugging message. Best wishes, Matthias sessionInfo() R version 3.4.1 (2017-06-30) Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) Running under: Windows >= 8 x64 (build 9200) Matrix products: default locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=German_Germany.1252 LC_CTYPE=German_Germany.1252 LC_MONETARY=German_Germany.1252 [4] LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=German_Germany.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base loaded via a namespace (and not attached): [1] compiler_3.4.1 tools_3.4.1 [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. [[alternative HTML version deleted]] ______________________________________________ R-help@r-project.org mailing list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE and more, see https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.