> On May 14, 2017, at 11:43 AM, Tobias Christoph <s3toc...@uni-bayreuth.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Peter,
> 
> it is not necessary to use "factor(town)". I can just use  "town" as the name 
> of the towns is already numeric.
> 

Isn't it a discrete variable? You most probably do want a different estimate 
for town.

-- 
David
> 
> 
> Am 14.05.2017 um 20:24 schrieb peter dalgaard:
>>> On 14 May 2017, at 10:22 , Tobias Christoph <s3toc...@uni-bayreuth.de> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey David,
>>> 
>>> when I used your suggested formula: plm( log(revenue) ~ log(supply) + 
>>> factor(town) + as.numeric(as.character(year)), data=R_Test_log_Neu) I will 
>>> get the same results as without considering town and year in the formula. 
>>> So this might not the clue for taking into account a linear trend.
>> You probably still want a "*" in the model formula.
>> 
>> (It is not obvious to me why a plain factor(town)*year term does not work, 
>> something in the panel data frame setup auto-converts it to a factor? But 
>> why do you need to say factor(town) then?)
>> 
>> -pd
>> 
>>> Please find attached the results of str(R_Test_log_Neu):
>>>  Classes ‘tbl_df’, ‘tbl’ and 'data.frame':  132 obs. of  4 variables:
>>>  $ town   : num  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ...
>>>  $ year   : num  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ...
>>>  $ revenue: num  39.9 43.3 44 43.2 39.1 ...
>>>  $ supply : num  1 1 1 1 1 1 35 101 181 323 ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hope this is helpful.
>>> 
>>> Toby
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 13.05.2017 um 16:40 schrieb David Winsemius:
>>>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:07 AM, Tobias Christoph <s3toc...@uni-bayreuth.de>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> thank you. Yes, I want to have "year" in the varibale.
>>>>> But if I use "*town*year*" as a furmula, R will create new factor
>>>>> variable with n levels, where n = (num of towns) x (num of years). What
>>>>> I'm trying to do is create 50 (town x year) variables such that
>>>>> town1xyear is 1,2,3... when town== 1 and zero otherwise, repeat for
>>>>> town2xyear, where state == 2, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is now clear? Sorry for my bad explanations.
>>>>> 
>>>> I had suggested that you must provide str(R_Test_log_Neu). I'm still 
>>>> suggesting this would be a good idea.
>>>> 
>>>> Since you have not done so, we can only guess at the right course to 
>>>> follow from your reports of problems and errors. Peter pointed out that 
>>>> the `time` function was in the 'stats' package (not from plm or elsewhere 
>>>> as I imagined). You are implying that 'year' is currently a factor value 
>>>> with levels that appears as the character versions of integers.
>>>> 
>>>> You may be able to get closer to what is possible by using:
>>>> 
>>>> plm( log(revenue) ~ log(supply) + factor(town) + 
>>>> as.numeric(as.character(year)),
>>>>      data=R_Test_log_Neu)
>>>> 
>>>> This should fix the problem noted by Peter and avoid the potentially 
>>>> incorrect construction of the desired linear trend.
>>>> 
>>>> If you used the interaction operator "*" between 'town' and the numeric 
>>>> version of 'year' it will give you two sets of coefficients involving 
>>>> 'town'. The first set will be the mean deviations from the base factor 
>>>> level. The other set will be the differences in slopes for the time trends 
>>>> for each of the (factored) towns from the overall time trend/slope. And 
>>>> for your data you wouldbe constructing a saturated model ... as you 
>>>> observed in your first message (which remains in the copied thread below).
>>>> 
>>>> 
> 

David Winsemius
Alameda, CA, USA

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